I like being able to "hockey stop" on 125mm wheels. I can't do that with a lowcut boot. I also have zero problems doing crossovers either forward or backward in my hybrid boot. I grew up on hockey skates though so that might explain why I'm comfortable with a higher cut boot. I find the high boot on 125mm wheels to be a great mix of smooth rolling speed and stopping power. Hard to wear speed skates around town when stopping is such a slow process. Hybrids can be a great commuter skate in that regard.
Hi :) I guess having a hockey background would make it less of an issue, as your technique might already be adapted for the limitations of a higher boot. However, I’d always say, if you can’t control a low cut skate, you sure shouldn’t be on 125mm wheels, as that’s beyond your ankle strengths capacities :)
Im on Victors side. It's more depending on the skating style and Place. Your example Sounds somehow like semi skins will be the inbetween before reaching low cut skates. But some people will just Use semi speed skates for the rest of their life for better urban skating Performance while still having a better speed Performance than on a Standard boot.
I’d say semi speedskate is a great choice for urban/fitness skating becos it provides support and much lighter than slalom skates. Like myself I usually took an hour bus to my starting point and skate with fds for 4+hours. Also the low cuff is more manoeuvrable with long frames + jumping over obstacles with ankle protection and much stable then on speedboots. It’s not good for pro speed skating but a good pair of boots for general users +the boots are inexpensive, I got 2 semi race 3 cos it’s perfect fit for wide asian feet, and flying eagle veloce (more comfort than bont but it’s 30%heavier + narrower toebox) 195mm provides much better power transfer and seems stiffer/stable skating at 20-25+kmh (Skate experience ~3 years, mostly on slalom/urban skating/self-taught)
Most people want more ankle support than speed skates offer, the semi race, R4/R6, Arise are all super popular for a reason - light, comfortable and fast (compared to anything except racing skates). If you have no intention of getting into speed skating they are perfect!
i agree, i find them perfect for my use, i speed skate enough and i also to a few jumps etc, especially with my powerslide i change the frame and i have a good fitness skate...its an all around boot basically
For ultra commuting ; those hybrid are a niche! Without lacing it to the top you end up with a very confortable & maniable carbon boot that can stay on your feet all day long where the low cut will start killing the ankle bone after couple hours. It's not as perfect as a regular spped boot but it's the best solution I ve found for long distance skating on the road . Confort and security (powerslides and soul slide for emergency braking are ok with a semi race but not with a low cut)
Depends on what you want to do with them. I think the mistake both Bont and Rollerblade (Revv Boa) made with these variants is only having them in 195mm separation, which limits the market that will buy. I like them because they are more like hockey boots and urban boots, but you can also go long distances with big wheels over debris on the paths more easily. These boots give you a lot more skating variety and are higher quality than most urban skates. You can also remove the upper buckle or not tighten it as much as your ankle strength develops. This will give you a lot more flexibility and range of motion. I would say the only downside of these (besides being only 195mm) is the weight. But let's face it, most of us are not racers and don't really care about it that much. And if you want to shed some weight in an area that makes it hard to pick up your feet, you can get lighter frames, such as Atom Striker Mark II or the EO M2 Carbons. You can also get these frames in shorter variants for more agility.
Guys please note these are tips from a Professional Speed Skater. Please buy skates according to the Discipline of Skating you are learning. A person from a Freeride/ Freestyle/ Downhill, Aggressive/ hockey background would Hate speed boots because of their limiting ankle support and ankle pain during moves required for those disciplines. However, speed boots are the best for Racing!
You're absolutely right. However, some people can't afford having more than 1 pair of skates and would appreciate some versatility. I modified the hard boot of my 3x110 freeskate. Basically turning it from an urban freeskate into a hybrid speed/slalom skate. For the first time, I was able to cruise past 30 kph with the modification that allowed full range of front and back ankle movement at no discernable resistance, improved side ankle flexibility for "edge" maneuvers/tricks while still providing side ankle support. Improved street agility, higher speed, and better comfort. Couldn't ask for a better boot with all the great stuff thrown in except for the weight. Still as heavy as before!
Hi Victor, I understand your perspective(s) and agree you do raise some very valid points. However, I believe they are over generalizations and geared more for the masses. Different people have different physiologies, with some being more amenable to a semi-race setup. For me, neither a true speed skate nor semi-race skate will work. Rather, I require a hybrid between the two that unfortunately doesn't exist. My ankles are too narrow...so narrow that I couldn't conform the PS Wind and XXX skates enough to provide sufficient support...3/4 inch wide gaps were present on both sides of the ankle (both were returned). Few companies make semi-race skates, and those that do tend to be very uncomfortable for the reasons you mention (I returned them too), on top of not having the navicular bone cut-outs for comfort. Having higher support on the inner side, lower on the outer side, and narrow ankle support, would be perfect. Custom boots are on option, but none of the custom boot suppliers that have these options cater to the U.S. (have to travel to Germany...I asked), or they do cater to the U.S., but won't provide this level of customization (I asked). Until these problems are solved, I'll stick with my PS Grand Prix Trinity skates.
Very helpful and this is true. I’m currently riding the PS world cups and have been really wanting to get an icon or xxx but I also have problems with really small ankles with extra navicular bones and heel spurs. The world cups are really great for me as the carbon shell and liner are both heat moldable and really comfortable. I wish inline speed skating is more popular in the US.
Great point! Thanks for you comment. I do see that the issue of narrow ankles is hard to “solve” I hope more brands will follow the Luigino/LGO concept of offering different boot widths, so more skaters can find a correct fit... Barefoot booties are always an effective option, yet it doesn’t replace having a boot that fits as it is. Best of luck with the skating 💪😊
I bought cheap PS soft boot 90’s during the pandemic and quickly upgraded to an Fr1 with Inution liner. It solved my ankle pain and made me a better skater even thought they’re slightly big on me. How are the Grand Prix? Are the 125’s hard to handle? I live in a hilly area. Thanks!
@@22ryanoc Hi Ryan, the Grand Prix Trinity skates, quite simply are the best skates I have ever owned after over 30+ years of skating. So much so that I bought a second pair that's still in the box if and when my first pair need to be replaced. I get race-boot like performance and solid unworldly ankle support, in a fairly light package. Re 125mm wheels, they are very smooth rolling, very stable, and the bumps in the road are almost not noticeable compared to smaller wheels. But, unless you are expert with 110mm wheels already, you may find them to be challenging. Starting and stopping are more difficult and slower, tight turns are much more difficult too, and they're a little more difficult with double push unless you're taller than 5'9". Said another way, 125mm are not beginner friendly. But, I have both 125mm and 110mm wheels on separate fit-for-purpose Trinity frames and I simply swap them out depending upon the trail. 125mm for long distances, and 110mm for shorter, tighter, and/or really hilly trails. Thus, I get the best of both worlds. Re less than perfect fit, that will only cause problems for you now which will get worse as the liners wear down. You'll be best served getting skates that are tight, and heat moldable, and using EZ-Fit booties or a second pair of socks to fill any void that develops. Hope that is helpful.
@@Artemis_Prix I am using those ez fits although not needed anymore. But they could give me more control. I decided to upsize for my intuition liner (large shell) with a footprint technology insole underneath the liner. The one day I left the heel wedges is in the liner, I broke my arm. Someone left a comment saying that power slides 100 size wheel is perfect! Maybe one day I will try those 125s, since I’ve been rolling ps 90s a little bit, actually I saw you had reviewed them. Just wasn’t for me. Thank you.
Nature of hockey skating is just so much different. The base of hockey skate is much shorter thus it requires a lot less displacement to do a crossover. Also pro hockey players leave the top of the skate very loosely tied so the skate doesn't really provide much support. For hockey pros the high ankle is not for support during movement but just a protection against injury in case ankle tries bending more than it should in unexpected scenario, also helps to protect against hits by stick. In hockey skates the high ankle part if it's tied more tightly it does restrict movement really really badly and makes a lot of high speed techniques impossible and require one to stand in very straight tall position and it also often causes lace bite.
Thank your opinion it’s very helpful to me, Most people think Fitness should from semi to low cuff, and I’m from fitness to speed skate, At first my boot will be very hurt and unstable even can’t stand over 15 min but after a week later I feel comfortable and fast and I can wear it over one hour,I increase my speed, But I still feel not safety because I need more practice. Thank you a lot.
Practise is key! Smart move to switch directly to speed. Looking at the big picture, it will save you the time and trouble of having to readapt an extra time for another variation of boots ;)
I do nor agree. I will not buy speedskates, when i am not some racing. I skate more than a standard skate, so what is your suggestion for guys, who want to skate faster and longer than with fitness skates, but do not want to race to invest more than 800 euros for a speeskate...
@@freshasadaisy4782 Victor's arguments are perfectly valid. He's simply after perfection. And perfection is not even possible in high cut boots limiting your knee bend. Then there is also need for side to side ankle movements during some more technical moments - and also these are not possible if your ankle is kept in one place. But still - if you're not into racing then why not go for semi? Remembering that ALL Victor said about bad habits - it is perfectly true. After years on low cut boot I still struggle with my knee bend, so I know it firsthand.
@@cristina8868 You haven't mentioned any having really high cuff not allowing to push shin forward. Don't know about quads but fitness should be quite soft allowing the movement, hockey we all know allow all kind of movements becouse it's just build into it and figure skating shoes very often have cuts in front of the cuff right for better movement in this plane even if they are stiff to the sides. I understand this all stuff is about high cuff of semi race and that cuff is for supporting your ankle which is not supposed to be strong enough (thus supporting). And story behind the knee bend is that you really need to bend knee so it goes further than your first wheel on your long frame to properly execute advanced speed skating movements. That's all.
@@cristina8868 The whole story is about the boot. It really doesn't matter what kind of wheels and how many of them you have. Principles are just the same.
@@cristina8868 High cuff doesn't mean you are limited in dorsiflexion of your ankles. It's all in the design. And of course if you have a boot with that limitation build in but choose to leave it more or less open then it should be fine. If I happen to get my twisters some air I never close upper buckle tight. It's just closed so it won't hang loose. Cheers!
Valid point of views you got :) higher cut boots will in every context limit dorsiflexion. However if you’re not seeking to go fast, why care about good technique. It seems people in the comments have only had good experiences with the Rollerblade hybrid option, so that could be an option. This metaphor still stands to clarify my opinion a bit: “ I believe a comparison with clip pedals in cycling is a nice way to look at it. If you’re just commuting or cycling a bit around town, never even bother thinking about it. It’s pricey and complicated. However, if you invest in a road bike with the purpose of actually working out, and improving as a cyclist, don’t buy standard pedals, just to delay the inevitable process of getting comfortable with clip pedals later on. Save the money of buying two pairs of pedals, take those 1-2 embarrassing tumbles at 1kph, cause the habit of clipping in/out is unnatural at first... knowing that I’ll be fun, fast and more agile in the long run :)”
For speed skating and only speed skating, Viktor, you are perfectly right. Now for long distance skating on open roads like I do for example, I will avoid low cuff speed boot. Not enough padding inside and comfort. I might rethink my opinion with the FR Skates Race boots that have an Intuition integrated liner one day.
I got Rollerblade E2 and use them around the city and they are amazing. I put urban frame on them and they works so great. I will Most likely never go back again.
@@thorupviktor How about two other subjects: Ability to make emergency maneuvers such as stops (assuming the necessary training time is put in) and risk of ankle injury if things go very badly. I guess this I'm thinking speed skates as opposed to any mid cuff boot, not just a semi-speed. I'm thinking of making the transition from mid cuff boot and my skills are pretty good, but these two issues concern me
I used to be a competitive figure skater but never used a low boot and I am afraid of it. How difficult would be the transition to low calf boots. I was considering some marathon skates but your video is very helpful about it.
I switched to Rollerblade since this was recorded. However I did find them very comfortable. Not my first pick for racing, but they're nice to train on.
All your arguments are refuted by short track speed skates. Short track speed skates have a similar high cuff to semi-speed skates, and yet this is the one skating discipline in which crossovers are the most critical, in fact where almost all the power is generated. Short track speed skaters manage to go 50kph on a standard hockey rink. Please consider this and post a correction.
How about the 'higher' racing boots (PS R4s en Luigiano Strut for example)? They seem to give you freedom of movement and still support some more support for the ankles, especially for the longer skating session. or do you see that differently?
Exactly, I have a pair of Powerslide R4, and in their favor is: * Boot is made of leather, you can flex a bit sideways even if it's completely tightened * You can leave the upper fastener quite loose if you want even more sideway flexibility * Their medium height is well suited for long distances without frequently training for long distances * They support my already damaged cruciate ligament at my ankle, people that have had similiar accidents (e.g. from.skiing) are quite frequent * They are shipped with 3×110mm wheels, which is much easier when coming from ≤ 100 mm, but they allow the transition to 3×125mm in the same frame. And of course are compatible with any other trinity frame, e.g. 4×110mm ones. * And last but not least, they are quite affordable compared to "real" speed skates, nothing is worse than buying an expensive real speed skate, and then rarely using it because it is to demanding. That is actually the worst habit people frequently develop, not using their expensive sports gear often enough 🙈
I want to try speed skates but I have a worry about stability. I normally use rollerblade type so a high cuff. I’ve tried using mine without tightening cuff but I wobble like crazy, I feel like I can’t keep on centre of wheels. Is this down to design of skate and will a speed skates be more stable? Was thinking of getting Bont semi race 3 due to higher cuff, but it’s not as high as rollerblades.
Hey :) If you ultimate goal is to be on speedskates, I would go straight from high to speed boots. It will feel a bit funky at first, but worth the time and effort to figure it out :) This is a training plan I made to help bridge the fitness-> speed boot specifically. Give it a try :) viktor-s-site.thinkific.com/courses/your-first-course
Can you show examples contrasting the two types? I’m using Luigino Struts. They’re horribly uncomfortable. I’m wondering if there are any non-custom boots that might be more comfortable. I’m not good enough to feel like spending money on customs. Any suggestions?
Irritantno9, I was in the same boat as you. Not a great skater, so didn’t want to break the bank. I can tell you the Struts are garbage, all my family used them at first and they are just junk. I went to a Luigino Bolt next and it was horribly uncomfortable. I finally bit the bullet and bought some custom EdgeTeks and the difference is pretty incredible in comfort level once you get used to them. For me, it was either find something that didn’t kill my feet or quit speed skating. My family uses Bont skates and seem to like them better, but it may or may not be better for you. The answer for me was customs, but everyone is different. Good luck!
Some feet are simply too different to the “standard” that you’ll need a custom made boot. This goes to show that it’s all a matter of personal preference and differences, as the Strut boot has our highest customer satisfaction rate. Personally I’ve been in both Strut and Bolts, but found the stiffer Simmons Dash to fit me better... best of luck finding the right skate for you and your feet :)
Thanks a lot for the info. I bought the e2 110 from rollerblade recently. Curious if you have thoughts on that one since the cuff can be removed to transform it into a low cut speed skate. I tried both modes and found that the comfort the cuff gives (provided one doesn't make it tight like we'd be used to in casual skates) is really great for skate sessions that are an hour. Wondering if this model would be good for others to adopt.
@@thorupviktor how did you find those? Trying to acquire k2 redlines which similarly can be transformed to low cut. Can the low cut version be considered as speed skates?
This an interesting video, and interesting commentary. I've been considering this issue myself, having never had a low cut boot. What I'm still not clear on is what Viktor would recommend for someone who interested in speed *and* distance, but where distance trumps speed? There are a lot of comments here about ankles getting tired on longer skates. I can see that, plus worries about emergency maneuvers and stopping. What is a good choice for someone with those concerns? In my case, I'm a very experienced skater but coming back to it after a 15 year hiatus, so I'm coming from a mid cuff boot with 84mm wheels and an 11.5" wheelbase. I've also got some ancient Bont boots that are similar in height to the semi speed, mounting on a five wheel frame with 80mm wheels (13.5" wheelbase). The Bont boots are oddly supportive, which I have to attribute to the heat molding. So in my case there is the additional concern of taking on the larger wheels at the same time as a low cut boot. Does Viktor have any recommendations for someone like me? Is jumping to a low boot reasonable? I also have ankle bones that protrude, or thin ankles above the ankle bone, whichever way you want to look at it, so that's also attractive from the heat molding point of view.
What about power slide Grand Prix 125 for a good middle point? Someone mentioned that their quality wasn’t as good compared to rollerblade. I love my offer ones and I’m considering some kind of speech skiied I’m just not sure if it’s good for the hills
I've been debating this very topic as I look to upgrade my marathon setup. I have a 110mm Rollerblade skate with a removable cuff, which I take off because it is plastic and cumbersome. I am comfortable with a low cuff boot and I'm looking to upgrade my performance. But my focus is speed, not distance. Wonder if that makes a difference?
Does this just apply to boots that are like a speed boot but where the boot comes up over the ankle, or does it also apply to skates that are marketed as marathon skates like the Seba Marathon that have a cuff like a fitness skate that only comes partway up the ankle? I've heard some argue that having that bit of ankle support from the cuff makes skating long distance less tiring, but it seems to me like they are significantly heavier and bulkier than speed boots, which seems like it would cancel out some of the benefits in that department. Personally, I've skated 45 miles in my custom speed skates and didn't have any trouble with ankle endurance.
Bro these low-cut speeds skates are snapping my ankles and super hard to use. I've skated for 20yrs, and severely struggle with the low-cuts I've tried. It's weird because I love Low-Cut Puma shoes, and Low-Cut Quad (roller rink speed skates) Speed Slates but the low cut inlines are no joke. Harder than barefooting, surfing, skiing, and ice skates.
I love the idea of getting my knees lower for stability, but not at the price of risking ankle injury (low cut boots). I want good fit, good power xfer, good "feel" for the road, but not feel like I'm wearing ski boots.
l appreciate your video because I've just purchased my very first pair of "semi- speeds" by Bont. These are my first inlines after skating quads for 40 years.... all my skating is for fun, recreational and for the beat of the music. l think I'll have fun in these as they're not for speed or anything serious.... All the technical things you mention for serious speedsters may be true but at my age speed is not my top priority compared to just trying these out for fun, low-cost and they look oh so dope.... Peace 15jan2021.dellthecomputer
@@thorupviktor Update: Hey, What's up Viktor ? got my new SemiSpeeds yesterday, as l mentioned previously they look UltraDope, not for anything serious, these are my first and only inlines used for fun and to try something different from quads after 3 decades of quads, time to try something new (black people in the general sense hate to try New and Different things "especially if it looks white") so lm always the one at the rink that has everybody like "Yooooooooo, those look sweet, how much are they ?" .... next thing you know everybody at the rink got some..... 26feb2021.dellthecomputer
Yo I’m riding Fr1 with intuition liner. Made me a pro overnight. I’m looking at PS Grand Prix 125 but not sure I can handle them big wheels. How did the bonts work out? I live in a hilly area and like doing tricks. I’m scared of the speed I can get in on some of these downhill so if I get spead skated big wheels. I’m dealing with a broken arm as it is now luckily I can still skate
Powerslide next team here. Using them for marathons and they're as good as those marathon skates. If you are completely committed, buy speed skates. They're sooooo much more flexible
Bruh i was thinking of some cheap speed skating shoe as my parents are not supporting me to continue in this sport so can u make video on budget speed skating shoes.
I used to run Bont 5 wheels back in the mid to late 90s, I went 20+ years without skating and recently borrowed my buddy's inlines with a full boot to skate with my wife and I nearly died, not having the ability to bend my ankles made me feel like I had never skated before, yes I was definitely rusty but I still think that heavy molded boot was a big part of the problem, I chipped the rust away pretty quickly but that boot was terrible for me so I ordered some more budget friendly speed skates, I'm hoping it goes well.
Hey, me too, the first half anyway. I had bongs bonts with mogema frames and always dreamed of being tall enough to have 5 wheels but it seems larger 3 and 4 wheel setups are most popular. Dude on my rink’s speed team developed his own skates around the same time, his name’s mike somethin. But I’d only go back to what I knew best- low cut, no ankle support race boots. I’ve been wanting to get back into it for a long time now but the cost, ugh. I’d have to get back into regional competitions to justify that cost.
@KazzArie I actually ended up with a fitness boot on 4x100 wheels, they're Atom skates, I tried a low cut boot and found that my ankles had gotten very weak over the years so having a mid cut boot helped a lot plus they were only $295
Hello I ride fr1’s now. Would speed skates be a better way to skate around? There is a crazy downhill I do and I feel like it would be too fast in speed skates with big wheels. Thanks for the great content.
an heavy aggressive vs an skinny speedskater ,well the heavy is faster on downhill if the bearings are ok speed skates are flat land only. no jumps or hokey moves
Hi Victor. I partially disagree. Personally I'm observing lots of people who buying custom lowcut skates from homegrown "manufacturers". They proposing the cuts that are too low causing the risks of serious injuries for such pro-amateurs.
Fair point :) I too see skaters with trouble keeping their boots straight. Personally my parents have an old photo of me skating so terribly that the inside of my boot is literally touching the tarmac, hanging in their entre to remind me that it did also take me some while before I could benefit from it. I believe a comparison with clip pedals in cycling is a nice way to look at it. If you’re just commuting or cycling a bit around town, never even bother thinking about it. It’s pricey and complicated. However, if you invest in a road bike with the purpose of actually working out, and improving as a cyclist, don’t buy standard pedals, just to delay the inevitable process of getting comfortable with clip pedals later on. Save the money of buying two pairs of pedals, take those 1-2 embarrassing tumbles at 1kph, cause the habit of clipping in/out is unnatural at first... knowing that I’ll be fun, fast and more agile in the long run :)
I'm new and using high skates and I learned it on those. I want to do marathon and was looking into the powerslide R2. But these are semi? What 'brand' is a better option?
Hi Deny :) That mainly comes down to personal preference. Most skates are equipped with laces, but I wouldn’t consider this as a decisive parameter when choosing your skates :)
Hi, I wanted to buy semi-speed roller: the Powerslide Final 110 that I found cheap...I think that the boot is quite low and that it is not in carbon so flexible... What would you advise me knowing that I don't want to put 600euros in it? Thank you
l feel like they're too loose, should they be tied like ultra tight ? maybe l need to wear a couple more pairs of socks and tied way tighter so my feet have more control over the skate.... any advice would be appreciated, tia 03mar2021.dellthecomputer
Sorry dude, but your info here is not complete. You don't mention skaterlevel, wheelsize or even mention where to ride those low cut matchlevel (pro)skates, track trail ring ,,,,, I can almost guarantee that a beginner or lower level skater stops within ten meters and never uses with those skates again!
Hi dude. The purpose of this video is to communicate that one should avoid semi-speed skates. I'm by no means against fitness skates, which is, and should be the first choice of any newcomer to the sport :)
@@thorupviktor I took time to watch your video again and (partly) my bad! With semi-speed skates I understand also low cut types like my own produktion level that are not like custom made ones. That said I still think (and hear/read) that the more untrained skaters that went from fitness types straith to speed skates often give up quite soon, but as an more experienced amateur level skater I understand your point!
you should probably define semi better or show the difference. I raced for years and used verducci and Simmons. verducci was better for me. it went over my ankle bone...is that a semi? it was fine and did race at a high level, just a long time ago.
Personally I'm a hockey skate Person but I do use speed skates but Personally I don't think a high boot makes much of a difference. I do beautiful a d really quick crossing and I honestly feel more stable with high boots
Now I understand after struggling with semi-speed skates. It's a waste of time and money. I should watch this video first. I will go to the speed skates directly.
That’s a very individual question, as the optimal diet depends on each individual’s goals, body composition, energy expenditure etc. I do offer meal planning and coaching. If interested, send me a DM on Instagram :)
Thanks a lot, Viktor! Your vids are very useful! I ordered Cityrun boots to try speedskating, coach of Russian speedskating team told me that they would be enough for my first seasons as it's my transition from freeskate
Blisters... yeap... I love them, heavier, but blisters.... the extra support feels nice except they just do not work out on short track stuff... Long distance, no or almost no cross overs, sure. Short track, Nope.
nAH, if thou art looking for comfort and fastness - one does not need the speediest. The boot offer support. That's more important to the non-professional skating. I do appreciate the opinions, however.
Kinda agree with ur point on why not to use semi skates.. BUT it does also depend on what people want to run, if its for speed or if its for distance. if people run because of speed in short distance / marathon distance i do recommend using low cuffs with the right wheel size.. But for longer distancses +50Km i do recommend Semi skates, because of the support, because most people do get tired and therefor exstra support would be good to have to substain the stability in their feet/ancles. I been using Bont Semi Speedskates in over 10y, i run long distances 295(km) and i must say, my feet are way more tired when using low cuffs when running those distances, never going back to low cuff.. Unless its for short distance.
Yes, obviously dedicated speed skates are better in all aspects… but also, you’re coming across as a rollerblade fanboy… unfair to put other, better brands down, though
I used to be on the MARYLAND SPEEDTEAM IN THE 90S THEY ONLY HAD 5 WHEEL INLINES. MY QUESTION IS WHY THEY USE 3WHEELS NOW OR IS THE 5 WHEEL FRAME STILL USED FOR INDOOR SOEEDSKATING OR 3WHEELS?
I like being able to "hockey stop" on 125mm wheels. I can't do that with a lowcut boot. I also have zero problems doing crossovers either forward or backward in my hybrid boot. I grew up on hockey skates though so that might explain why I'm comfortable with a higher cut boot. I find the high boot on 125mm wheels to be a great mix of smooth rolling speed and stopping power. Hard to wear speed skates around town when stopping is such a slow process. Hybrids can be a great commuter skate in that regard.
Hi :) I guess having a hockey background would make it less of an issue, as your technique might already be adapted for the limitations of a higher boot. However, I’d always say, if you can’t control a low cut skate, you sure shouldn’t be on 125mm wheels, as that’s beyond your ankle strengths capacities :)
I live in a place with tons of crazy hills. My fr1’s are sufficient, I don’t need speed skates right? Thanks.
Im on Victors side. It's more depending on the skating style and Place. Your example Sounds somehow like semi skins will be the inbetween before reaching low cut skates. But some people will just Use semi speed skates for the rest of their life for better urban skating Performance while still having a better speed Performance than on a Standard boot.
I’d say semi speedskate is a great choice for urban/fitness skating becos it provides support and much lighter than slalom skates. Like myself I usually took an hour bus to my starting point and skate with fds for 4+hours. Also the low cuff is more manoeuvrable with long frames + jumping over obstacles with ankle protection and much stable then on speedboots.
It’s not good for pro speed skating but a good pair of boots for general users
+the boots are inexpensive, I got 2 semi race 3 cos it’s perfect fit for wide asian feet, and flying eagle veloce (more comfort than bont but it’s 30%heavier + narrower toebox)
195mm provides much better power transfer and seems stiffer/stable skating at 20-25+kmh
(Skate experience ~3 years, mostly on slalom/urban skating/self-taught)
I wish PLANERTS with the Kangaroo boot twere still around. That's what I used back in the 60s & early 70s for nastalgic reasons if any.
I'm going to buy Semi Speed skates (bont, powerslide ⚠️.
Good for you.
Those bont varpors are 1200 brah.
You’ve got it , Bro!!! Finally someone who tells true things and not only marketing spots. Thanks man!!!
Most people want more ankle support than speed skates offer, the semi race, R4/R6, Arise are all super popular for a reason - light, comfortable and fast (compared to anything except racing skates). If you have no intention of getting into speed skating they are perfect!
i agree, i find them perfect for my use, i speed skate enough and i also to a few jumps etc, especially with my powerslide i change the frame and i have a good fitness skate...its an all around boot basically
For ultra commuting ; those hybrid are a niche! Without lacing it to the top you end up with a very confortable & maniable carbon boot that can stay on your feet all day long where the low cut will start killing the ankle bone after couple hours.
It's not as perfect as a regular spped boot but it's the best solution I ve found for long distance skating on the road .
Confort and security (powerslides and soul slide for emergency braking are ok with a semi race but not with a low cut)
Depends on what you want to do with them. I think the mistake both Bont and Rollerblade (Revv Boa) made with these variants is only having them in 195mm separation, which limits the market that will buy. I like them because they are more like hockey boots and urban boots, but you can also go long distances with big wheels over debris on the paths more easily. These boots give you a lot more skating variety and are higher quality than most urban skates.
You can also remove the upper buckle or not tighten it as much as your ankle strength develops. This will give you a lot more flexibility and range of motion. I would say the only downside of these (besides being only 195mm) is the weight. But let's face it, most of us are not racers and don't really care about it that much. And if you want to shed some weight in an area that makes it hard to pick up your feet, you can get lighter frames, such as Atom Striker Mark II or the EO M2 Carbons. You can also get these frames in shorter variants for more agility.
Guys please note these are tips from a Professional Speed Skater. Please buy skates according to the Discipline of Skating you are learning. A person from a Freeride/ Freestyle/ Downhill, Aggressive/ hockey background would Hate speed boots because of their limiting ankle support and ankle pain during moves required for those disciplines. However, speed boots are the best for Racing!
You're absolutely right. However, some people can't afford having more than 1 pair of skates and would appreciate some versatility. I modified the hard boot of my 3x110 freeskate. Basically turning it from an urban freeskate into a hybrid speed/slalom skate. For the first time, I was able to cruise past 30 kph with the modification that allowed full range of front and back ankle movement at no discernable resistance, improved side ankle flexibility for "edge" maneuvers/tricks while still providing side ankle support. Improved street agility, higher speed, and better comfort. Couldn't ask for a better boot with all the great stuff thrown in except for the weight. Still as heavy as before!
Hi Victor, I understand your perspective(s) and agree you do raise some very valid points. However, I believe they are over generalizations and geared more for the masses. Different people have different physiologies, with some being more amenable to a semi-race setup. For me, neither a true speed skate nor semi-race skate will work. Rather, I require a hybrid between the two that unfortunately doesn't exist. My ankles are too narrow...so narrow that I couldn't conform the PS Wind and XXX skates enough to provide sufficient support...3/4 inch wide gaps were present on both sides of the ankle (both were returned). Few companies make semi-race skates, and those that do tend to be very uncomfortable for the reasons you mention (I returned them too), on top of not having the navicular bone cut-outs for comfort. Having higher support on the inner side, lower on the outer side, and narrow ankle support, would be perfect. Custom boots are on option, but none of the custom boot suppliers that have these options cater to the U.S. (have to travel to Germany...I asked), or they do cater to the U.S., but won't provide this level of customization (I asked). Until these problems are solved, I'll stick with my PS Grand Prix Trinity skates.
Very helpful and this is true. I’m currently riding the PS world cups and have been really wanting to get an icon or xxx but I also have problems with really small ankles with extra navicular bones and heel spurs. The world cups are really great for me as the carbon shell and liner are both heat moldable and really comfortable. I wish inline speed skating is more popular in the US.
Great point! Thanks for you comment. I do see that the issue of narrow ankles is hard to “solve” I hope more brands will follow the Luigino/LGO concept of offering different boot widths, so more skaters can find a correct fit... Barefoot booties are always an effective option, yet it doesn’t replace having a boot that fits as it is. Best of luck with the skating 💪😊
I bought cheap PS soft boot 90’s during the pandemic and quickly upgraded to an Fr1 with Inution liner. It solved my ankle pain and made me a better skater even thought they’re slightly big on me. How are the Grand Prix? Are the 125’s hard to handle? I live in a hilly area. Thanks!
@@22ryanoc Hi Ryan, the Grand Prix Trinity skates, quite simply are the best skates I have ever owned after over 30+ years of skating. So much so that I bought a second pair that's still in the box if and when my first pair need to be replaced. I get race-boot like performance and solid unworldly ankle support, in a fairly light package. Re 125mm wheels, they are very smooth rolling, very stable, and the bumps in the road are almost not noticeable compared to smaller wheels. But, unless you are expert with 110mm wheels already, you may find them to be challenging. Starting and stopping are more difficult and slower, tight turns are much more difficult too, and they're a little more difficult with double push unless you're taller than 5'9". Said another way, 125mm are not beginner friendly. But, I have both 125mm and 110mm wheels on separate fit-for-purpose Trinity frames and I simply swap them out depending upon the trail. 125mm for long distances, and 110mm for shorter, tighter, and/or really hilly trails. Thus, I get the best of both worlds. Re less than perfect fit, that will only cause problems for you now which will get worse as the liners wear down. You'll be best served getting skates that are tight, and heat moldable, and using EZ-Fit booties or a second pair of socks to fill any void that develops. Hope that is helpful.
@@Artemis_Prix I am using those ez fits although not needed anymore. But they could give me more control. I decided to upsize for my intuition liner (large shell) with a footprint technology insole underneath the liner. The one day I left the heel wedges is in the liner, I broke my arm. Someone left a comment saying that power slides 100 size wheel is perfect! Maybe one day I will try those 125s, since I’ve been rolling ps 90s a little bit, actually I saw you had reviewed them. Just wasn’t for me. Thank you.
That’s crazy, I see hockey players perform crossovers all day long in hockey skates on the ice rink and on the roller rink
Nature of hockey skating is just so much different. The base of hockey skate is much shorter thus it requires a lot less displacement to do a crossover. Also pro hockey players leave the top of the skate very loosely tied so the skate doesn't really provide much support. For hockey pros the high ankle is not for support during movement but just a protection against injury in case ankle tries bending more than it should in unexpected scenario, also helps to protect against hits by stick. In hockey skates the high ankle part if it's tied more tightly it does restrict movement really really badly and makes a lot of high speed techniques impossible and require one to stand in very straight tall position and it also often causes lace bite.
Thank your opinion it’s very helpful to me,
Most people think Fitness should from semi to low cuff,
and I’m from fitness to speed skate,
At first my boot will be very hurt and unstable even can’t stand over 15 min but after a week later
I feel comfortable and fast and I can wear it over one hour,I increase my speed,
But I still feel not safety because I need more practice.
Thank you a lot.
Practise is key! Smart move to switch directly to speed. Looking at the big picture, it will save you the time and trouble of having to readapt an extra time for another variation of boots ;)
I have 4 by 80 Fr1. Not sure them big wheels are good for me and the hills I live on
I do nor agree. I will not buy speedskates, when i am not some racing. I skate more than a standard skate, so what is your suggestion for guys, who want to skate faster and longer than with fitness skates, but do not want to race to invest more than 800 euros for a speeskate...
@@freshasadaisy4782 Victor's arguments are perfectly valid. He's simply after perfection. And perfection is not even possible in high cut boots limiting your knee bend. Then there is also need for side to side ankle movements during some more technical moments - and also these are not possible if your ankle is kept in one place. But still - if you're not into racing then why not go for semi? Remembering that ALL Victor said about bad habits - it is perfectly true. After years on low cut boot I still struggle with my knee bend, so I know it firsthand.
@@cristina8868 You haven't mentioned any having really high cuff not allowing to push shin forward. Don't know about quads but fitness should be quite soft allowing the movement, hockey we all know allow all kind of movements becouse it's just build into it and figure skating shoes very often have cuts in front of the cuff right for better movement in this plane even if they are stiff to the sides. I understand this all stuff is about high cuff of semi race and that cuff is for supporting your ankle which is not supposed to be strong enough (thus supporting). And story behind the knee bend is that you really need to bend knee so it goes further than your first wheel on your long frame to properly execute advanced speed skating movements. That's all.
@@cristina8868 The whole story is about the boot. It really doesn't matter what kind of wheels and how many of them you have. Principles are just the same.
@@cristina8868 High cuff doesn't mean you are limited in dorsiflexion of your ankles. It's all in the design. And of course if you have a boot with that limitation build in but choose to leave it more or less open then it should be fine. If I happen to get my twisters some air I never close upper buckle tight. It's just closed so it won't hang loose. Cheers!
Valid point of views you got :) higher cut boots will in every context limit dorsiflexion. However if you’re not seeking to go fast, why care about good technique. It seems people in the comments have only had good experiences with the Rollerblade hybrid option, so that could be an option. This metaphor still stands to clarify my opinion a bit: “ I believe a comparison with clip pedals in cycling is a nice way to look at it. If you’re just commuting or cycling a bit around town, never even bother thinking about it. It’s pricey and complicated. However, if you invest in a road bike with the purpose of actually working out, and improving as a cyclist, don’t buy standard pedals, just to delay the inevitable process of getting comfortable with clip pedals later on. Save the money of buying two pairs of pedals, take those 1-2 embarrassing tumbles at 1kph, cause the habit of clipping in/out is unnatural at first... knowing that I’ll be fun, fast and more agile in the long run :)”
For speed skating and only speed skating, Viktor, you are perfectly right. Now for long distance skating on open roads like I do for example, I will avoid low cuff speed boot. Not enough padding inside and comfort. I might rethink my opinion with the FR Skates Race boots that have an Intuition integrated liner one day.
I got Rollerblade E2 and use them around the city and they are amazing. I put urban frame on them and they works so great. I will Most likely never go back again.
As speed skates are also used for marathons, do these comments hold true for distance skating?
Yes
@@thorupviktor How about two other subjects: Ability to make emergency maneuvers such as stops (assuming the necessary training time is put in) and risk of ankle injury if things go very badly. I guess this I'm thinking speed skates as opposed to any mid cuff boot, not just a semi-speed. I'm thinking of making the transition from mid cuff boot and my skills are pretty good, but these two issues concern me
I used to be a competitive figure skater but never used a low boot and I am afraid of it. How difficult would be the transition to low calf boots. I was considering some marathon skates but your video is very helpful about it.
is there a greater risk of ankle injury without the support?
Yes.
I noticed you use junk voodoo frames how are they? I am confused in buying between junk special and voodoo frames
I switched to Rollerblade since this was recorded. However I did find them very comfortable. Not my first pick for racing, but they're nice to train on.
All your arguments are refuted by short track speed skates. Short track speed skates have a similar high cuff to semi-speed skates, and yet this is the one skating discipline in which crossovers are the most critical, in fact where almost all the power is generated. Short track speed skaters manage to go 50kph on a standard hockey rink. Please consider this and post a correction.
How about the 'higher' racing boots (PS R4s en Luigiano Strut for example)? They seem to give you freedom of movement and still support some more support for the ankles, especially for the longer skating session. or do you see that differently?
Exactly, I have a pair of Powerslide R4, and in their favor is:
* Boot is made of leather, you can flex a bit sideways even if it's completely tightened
* You can leave the upper fastener quite loose if you want even more sideway flexibility
* Their medium height is well suited for long distances without frequently training for long distances
* They support my already damaged cruciate ligament at my ankle, people that have had similiar accidents (e.g. from.skiing) are quite frequent
* They are shipped with 3×110mm wheels, which is much easier when coming from ≤ 100 mm, but they allow the transition to 3×125mm in the same frame. And of course are compatible with any other trinity frame, e.g. 4×110mm ones.
* And last but not least, they are quite affordable compared to "real" speed skates, nothing is worse than buying an expensive real speed skate, and then rarely using it because it is to demanding. That is actually the worst habit people frequently develop, not using their expensive sports gear often enough 🙈
I want to try speed skates but I have a worry about stability. I normally use rollerblade type so a high cuff. I’ve tried using mine without tightening cuff but I wobble like crazy, I feel like I can’t keep on centre of wheels.
Is this down to design of skate and will a speed skates be more stable? Was thinking of getting Bont semi race 3 due to higher cuff, but it’s not as high as rollerblades.
Hey :) If you ultimate goal is to be on speedskates, I would go straight from high to speed boots. It will feel a bit funky at first, but worth the time and effort to figure it out :) This is a training plan I made to help bridge the fitness-> speed boot specifically. Give it a try :)
viktor-s-site.thinkific.com/courses/your-first-course
Can you show examples contrasting the two types? I’m using Luigino Struts. They’re horribly uncomfortable. I’m wondering if there are any non-custom boots that might be more comfortable. I’m not good enough to feel like spending money on customs. Any suggestions?
Irritantno9, I was in the same boat as you. Not a great skater, so didn’t want to break the bank. I can tell you the Struts are garbage, all my family used them at first and they are just junk. I went to a Luigino Bolt next and it was horribly uncomfortable. I finally bit the bullet and bought some custom EdgeTeks and the difference is pretty incredible in comfort level once you get used to them. For me, it was either find something that didn’t kill my feet or quit speed skating. My family uses Bont skates and seem to like them better, but it may or may not be better for you. The answer for me was customs, but everyone is different. Good luck!
Some feet are simply too different to the “standard” that you’ll need a custom made boot. This goes to show that it’s all a matter of personal preference and differences, as the Strut boot has our highest customer satisfaction rate. Personally I’ve been in both Strut and Bolts, but found the stiffer Simmons Dash to fit me better... best of luck finding the right skate for you and your feet :)
nice video, just what i needed to see to decide on buying skates like these
Thanks a lot for the info. I bought the e2 110 from rollerblade recently. Curious if you have thoughts on that one since the cuff can be removed to transform it into a low cut speed skate. I tried both modes and found that the comfort the cuff gives (provided one doesn't make it tight like we'd be used to in casual skates) is really great for skate sessions that are an hour. Wondering if this model would be good for others to adopt.
Interesting! I’ll actually be trying out the RB collection next month to see for myself :)
@@thorupviktor how did you find those? Trying to acquire k2 redlines which similarly can be transformed to low cut. Can the low cut version be considered as speed skates?
@@cantaremangiare I heard that without the cuff they are not as stiff as a normal speed skate so it limits their usability
This an interesting video, and interesting commentary. I've been considering this issue myself, having never had a low cut boot. What I'm still not clear on is what Viktor would recommend for someone who interested in speed *and* distance, but where distance trumps speed? There are a lot of comments here about ankles getting tired on longer skates. I can see that, plus worries about emergency maneuvers and stopping. What is a good choice for someone with those concerns?
In my case, I'm a very experienced skater but coming back to it after a 15 year hiatus, so I'm coming from a mid cuff boot with 84mm wheels and an 11.5" wheelbase. I've also got some ancient Bont boots that are similar in height to the semi speed, mounting on a five wheel frame with 80mm wheels (13.5" wheelbase). The Bont boots are oddly supportive, which I have to attribute to the heat molding. So in my case there is the additional concern of taking on the larger wheels at the same time as a low cut boot. Does Viktor have any recommendations for someone like me? Is jumping to a low boot reasonable?
I also have ankle bones that protrude, or thin ankles above the ankle bone, whichever way you want to look at it, so that's also attractive from the heat molding point of view.
What about power slide Grand Prix 125 for a good middle point? Someone mentioned that their quality wasn’t as good compared to rollerblade. I love my offer ones and I’m considering some kind of speech skiied I’m just not sure if it’s good for the hills
I've been debating this very topic as I look to upgrade my marathon setup. I have a 110mm Rollerblade skate with a removable cuff, which I take off because it is plastic and cumbersome. I am comfortable with a low cuff boot and I'm looking to upgrade my performance. But my focus is speed, not distance. Wonder if that makes a difference?
That's the E2 right? If it doesn't give you blisters, then there's not a whole lot more you could ask for in a skate.
Does this just apply to boots that are like a speed boot but where the boot comes up over the ankle, or does it also apply to skates that are marketed as marathon skates like the Seba Marathon that have a cuff like a fitness skate that only comes partway up the ankle? I've heard some argue that having that bit of ankle support from the cuff makes skating long distance less tiring, but it seems to me like they are significantly heavier and bulkier than speed boots, which seems like it would cancel out some of the benefits in that department. Personally, I've skated 45 miles in my custom speed skates and didn't have any trouble with ankle endurance.
In some ways they could be considered less tiring. However you'd need much more energy to maintain the same speed as you would in low skates :)
This seems to be targeted for professional/competitive skaters.
Bro these low-cut speeds skates are snapping my ankles and super hard to use. I've skated for 20yrs, and severely struggle with the low-cuts I've tried. It's weird because I love Low-Cut Puma shoes, and Low-Cut Quad (roller rink speed skates) Speed Slates but the low cut inlines are no joke. Harder than barefooting, surfing, skiing, and ice skates.
I love the idea of getting my knees lower for stability, but not at the price of risking ankle injury (low cut boots). I want good fit, good power xfer, good "feel" for the road, but not feel like I'm wearing ski boots.
l appreciate your video because I've just purchased my very first pair of "semi- speeds" by Bont. These are my first inlines after skating quads for 40 years....
all my skating is for fun, recreational and for the beat of the music. l think I'll have fun in these as they're not for speed or anything serious....
All the technical things you mention for serious speedsters may be true but at my age speed is not my top priority compared to just trying these out for fun, low-cost and they look oh so dope.... Peace
15jan2021.dellthecomputer
Wish you good fun 😊
@@thorupviktor Update: Hey, What's up Viktor ?
got my new SemiSpeeds yesterday, as l mentioned previously they look UltraDope, not for anything serious, these are my first and only inlines used for fun and to try something different from quads after 3 decades of quads, time to try something new (black people in the general sense hate to try New and Different things "especially if it looks white") so lm always the one at the rink that has everybody like "Yooooooooo, those look sweet, how much are they ?" .... next thing you know everybody at the rink got some.....
26feb2021.dellthecomputer
Yo I’m riding Fr1 with intuition liner. Made me a pro overnight. I’m looking at PS Grand Prix 125 but not sure I can handle them big wheels. How did the bonts work out? I live in a hilly area and like doing tricks. I’m scared of the speed I can get in on some of these downhill so if I get spead skated big wheels. I’m dealing with a broken arm as it is now luckily I can still skate
Hi mate what's flags meterial printed on your boot is it a sticker??
It’s actually embroidered. It’s the Danish national flag “Dannebrog” (my country of origin)
Do you have a link to your skateshop?
Sure do! :) www.topskate.dk/en
Powerslide next team here. Using them for marathons and they're as good as those marathon skates.
If you are completely committed, buy speed skates. They're sooooo much more flexible
Bruh i was thinking of some cheap speed skating shoe as my parents are not supporting me to continue in this sport so can u make video on budget speed skating shoes.
I ride twisters on the streets. I feel like speed skates on urban my ankle will snap
Hi bro, love your videos . It helps a lot . how can I buy the correct inline speed skate for my leg
Check my latest video ;)
Thank you 🙏🏻
What is a semi speed skate?
Could you recommend a good, first, affordable pair of speed skates, to get in to the sport? What about the Powerslide Final 110?
hey there, 3 vs 4 wheels on the speed skate?
I used to run Bont 5 wheels back in the mid to late 90s, I went 20+ years without skating and recently borrowed my buddy's inlines with a full boot to skate with my wife and I nearly died, not having the ability to bend my ankles made me feel like I had never skated before, yes I was definitely rusty but I still think that heavy molded boot was a big part of the problem, I chipped the rust away pretty quickly but that boot was terrible for me so I ordered some more budget friendly speed skates, I'm hoping it goes well.
Hey, me too, the first half anyway. I had bongs bonts with mogema frames and always dreamed of being tall enough to have 5 wheels but it seems larger 3 and 4 wheel setups are most popular. Dude on my rink’s speed team developed his own skates around the same time, his name’s mike somethin. But I’d only go back to what I knew best- low cut, no ankle support race boots. I’ve been wanting to get back into it for a long time now but the cost, ugh. I’d have to get back into regional competitions to justify that cost.
@KazzArie I actually ended up with a fitness boot on 4x100 wheels, they're Atom skates, I tried a low cut boot and found that my ankles had gotten very weak over the years so having a mid cut boot helped a lot plus they were only $295
Hello I ride fr1’s now. Would speed skates be a better way to skate around? There is a crazy downhill I do and I feel like it would be too fast in speed skates with big wheels. Thanks for the great content.
an heavy aggressive vs an skinny speedskater ,well the heavy is faster on downhill if the bearings are ok
speed skates are flat land only. no jumps or hokey moves
fuck no
Hi Victor. I partially disagree. Personally I'm observing lots of people who buying custom lowcut skates from homegrown "manufacturers". They proposing the cuts that are too low causing the risks of serious injuries for such pro-amateurs.
Fair point :) I too see skaters with trouble keeping their boots straight. Personally my parents have an old photo of me skating so terribly that the inside of my boot is literally touching the tarmac, hanging in their entre to remind me that it did also take me some while before I could benefit from it. I believe a comparison with clip pedals in cycling is a nice way to look at it. If you’re just commuting or cycling a bit around town, never even bother thinking about it. It’s pricey and complicated. However, if you invest in a road bike with the purpose of actually working out, and improving as a cyclist, don’t buy standard pedals, just to delay the inevitable process of getting comfortable with clip pedals later on. Save the money of buying two pairs of pedals, take those 1-2 embarrassing tumbles at 1kph, cause the habit of clipping in/out is unnatural at first... knowing that I’ll be fun, fast and more agile in the long run :)
What do u think about simmons rana skates?
what is your opinion about speeds skates from aliexpress? I have a lot interested for buy, but I have a fear on the quality is bad.
How about powerslide ariae :"(
I want to buy it but i see this video
Please make video on your own skate setup
Noted! :)
I want to buy speed skates since I’m already using the speed skate style you taught me to increase power transfer.
I'm new and using high skates and I learned it on those.
I want to do marathon and was looking into the powerslide R2. But these are semi?
What 'brand' is a better option?
Привет. Which shoes are better with laces or BOA. For the beginner. Спасибо
Hi Deny :) That mainly comes down to personal preference. Most skates are equipped with laces, but I wouldn’t consider this as a decisive parameter when choosing your skates :)
What kind of skates are you using??
Hi,
I wanted to buy semi-speed roller: the Powerslide Final 110 that I found cheap...I think that the boot is quite low and that it is not in carbon so flexible...
What would you advise me knowing that I don't want to put 600euros in it?
Thank you
l feel like they're too loose, should they be tied like ultra tight ? maybe l need to wear a couple more pairs of socks and tied way tighter so my feet have more control over the skate....
any advice would be appreciated, tia
03mar2021.dellthecomputer
“Extremely heavy”, yet mine are lighter than most speed skates I have used😬
Wish I had watched this before buying those semi speed FRs. It's just annoying how stiff and cumbersome the boot feels.
Sorry dude, but your info here is not complete. You don't mention skaterlevel, wheelsize or even mention where to ride those low cut matchlevel (pro)skates, track trail ring ,,,,,
I can almost guarantee that a beginner or lower level skater stops within ten meters and never uses with those skates again!
Hi dude. The purpose of this video is to communicate that one should avoid semi-speed skates. I'm by no means against fitness skates, which is, and should be the first choice of any newcomer to the sport :)
@@thorupviktor I took time to watch your video again and (partly) my bad! With semi-speed skates I understand also low cut types like my own produktion level that are not like custom made ones. That said I still think (and hear/read) that the more untrained skaters that went from fitness types straith to speed skates often give up quite soon, but as an more experienced amateur level skater I understand your point!
how's bont elemental 90mm wheel for road practice? i need for my 9 yr son
After fitness skates I choose a speed skates and I have to fix my technique again... true
you should probably define semi better or show the difference. I raced for years and used verducci and Simmons. verducci was better for me. it went over my ankle bone...is that a semi? it was fine and did race at a high level, just a long time ago.
Personally I'm a hockey skate Person but I do use speed skates but Personally I don't think a high boot makes much of a difference. I do beautiful a d really quick crossing and I honestly feel more stable with high boots
Now I understand after struggling with semi-speed skates. It's a waste of time and money. I should watch this video first. I will go to the speed skates directly.
Make video on diet what we should eat all the day
That’s a very individual question, as the optimal diet depends on each individual’s goals, body composition, energy expenditure etc. I do offer meal planning and coaching. If interested, send me a DM on Instagram :)
125mm on Aggressive skates hmmm
Can I use Simmons rana rush2.0 skates
yes
Thanks a lot, Viktor! Your vids are very useful! I ordered Cityrun boots to try speedskating, coach of Russian speedskating team told me that they would be enough for my first seasons as it's my transition from freeskate
Thanks 🙏 Wish you the best of luck in your Speed adventures 💪
Blisters... yeap... I love them, heavier, but blisters.... the extra support feels nice except they just do not work out on short track stuff... Long distance, no or almost no cross overs, sure. Short track, Nope.
awesome
nAH, if thou art looking for comfort and fastness - one does not need the speediest.
The boot offer support. That's more important to the non-professional skating. I do appreciate the opinions, however.
Kinda agree with ur point on why not to use semi skates.. BUT it does also depend on what people want to run, if its for speed or if its for distance.
if people run because of speed in short distance / marathon distance i do recommend using low cuffs with the right wheel size..
But for longer distancses +50Km i do recommend Semi skates, because of the support, because most people do get tired and therefor exstra support would be good to have to substain the stability in their feet/ancles.
I been using Bont Semi Speedskates in over 10y, i run long distances 295(km) and i must say, my feet are way more tired when using low cuffs when running those distances, never going back to low cuff.. Unless its for short distance.
Hi sir
Yes, obviously dedicated speed skates are better in all aspects… but also, you’re coming across as a rollerblade fanboy… unfair to put other, better brands down, though
Very happy 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️
Mantap
I used to be on the MARYLAND SPEEDTEAM IN THE 90S THEY ONLY HAD 5 WHEEL INLINES. MY QUESTION IS WHY THEY USE 3WHEELS NOW OR IS THE 5 WHEEL FRAME STILL USED FOR INDOOR SOEEDSKATING OR 3WHEELS?