Speed skates VS Fitness skates - How much faster can you go with pro skates?
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Speed skates VS Fitness skates - How much faster can you go with pro skates?
4000m Time trial comparaison. Filmed by Sofia Prosvirnova. March 2022, Vallensbæk, Denmark.
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My right ear loved this video!
I had my right bud out... And was so confused lol
I only had my left earbud in and thought the audio was broken! 😂
I thought the left drive was dead😅
just for anyone who needs to know this... skating speed is mostly due to skater skill and conditioning level. I've seen people maintaining 30+km/h on 4x80, while people with 3x125 are struggling to maintain 18km/h. Unless you are actually competing, save your money and just skate more.
I agree, when I skate at roller king I skate I maintain about 15 to 20 mph in 4x80 fitness skates, I have bones reds so ofcourse it works
Agree. Just skate more, and train cardio and strenght..
This applies to bicycles too!
I used to love passing up groups of dudes on $5,000 carbon fiber UFO looking bikes, with my $1200 Specialized Alez.
I now have a Cannondale Slice, but I'd absolutely testify that the only difference is the posture and chainrings.
God bless you fam. I’m so grateful for people like you who bring precise and to-the-point wisdom in such a short message. I’m BRAND new to inlines, and it’s a bit overwhelming all the info, long videos, and knowing all about each kind of skates. Your short message brought clarification. Thank you ❤️
Don’t even get started with tricks and breaking method plus rolling mechanisms. I like going down big heels and you’re definitely gonna have to hold onto your break.
I would love a paved track like that in my neighborhood! Our local tracks are all gravel or a rubberized track surface (for running/hurdles)
Сделайте запрос / петицию местным органам власти, лучше, если коллективный. Вдруг сработает.)))
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It would have been interresting to have put the same wheels on both skates to really compare the skates. I think the difference wouldn't have been that much as according to my experience the wheels are the greatest factor in speed.
The fact that the boot is lighter on a speed skates is key, but if you lack ankle strenght recreationnal skates will become faster
I think another reason the low boot is more efficient is that it allows for better technique
Agree and using the same wheels would show how much difference was caused by the boots.
The real huge difference here are the wheels. They make 90% of the difference.
It's not the size: it's what they are made of. You'd still go faster with dual density 90mm speed wheel, than with these 100mm fitness wheels.
Actually, i tested: i often use 5x90 dual density speed wheels, (because it's a confortable setup for very long time skating), and i can still compete with people (friends, speed medalists) on 4x110 or 3x125 speed tailored skates.
Your video/experience is scientifically very well made. (Based on heart rate: lots of tests/compazisons are biased because the effort changes).
Thanks you for doing it: this kind of raw data are precious!
В идеале, это нужно делать с измерителем мощности на бёдра для наиболее объективного анализа и сравнения)))
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For me it would be interesting to compare Speedskates ( 4x110 wheels ), with a fitness long distance skate like E2 Pro 125 ( 3x125 wheels). When you turn 50+ the comfort of a fitness skate is appealing, but I would like to be able to keep up the pace at a marathon race.
I just bought the E2 Pro 125 after years on speedskates, so when I test it I can let you know :D
@@adamkts_videographer1160 any updates on this?
Cool comparison. I was surprised it was only 30s quicker, tbh. I know this is only over a 4km distance but I’d have thought the larger wheels, better bearings, and longer frame of the speed skate alone would’ve made more of a difference. I’m quite impressed at the performance of the Macroblade here.
Track skating is obviously very different to urban/city skating, where even road cracks can be obstacles. I’d be very interested to see a similar comparison over a 4km urban route with multiple surfaces; I wonder how the speed skate would compare....? 🤔
Especially considering that he is used to the speed skates. I think even in other speed skates he isn‘t used to he would be a bit slower than in his usual ones
i mean its not like good fitness scates wont have smooth bearings
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Сравнить можно было бы с шоссейным велоспортом и разновидностями шоссейных велосипедов. Либо гладкий асфальт, либо хаотичная брусчатка трассы Париж - Рубэ)))
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Thanks man
This video was really helpful
Sorry Victor but this is a bit like comparing the roll of an 🍎 against a 🍐. Only the boot should have been the difference and or the frame, so think that's coming up next😀
please put the subtitles in spanish to understand I love your work I hope you take into account the comments you have admirers from all over the world ✨ thank you ✨🇲🇽 greetings from Mexico
Would be interesting to see how big the difference is to 3x125 Fitness Skates is to see how much of a difference the Boot itself makes
Great video! Thanks!
espectacular comparacion muchas gracias..
This is not a fair comparison. Fitness boots wouldn't be stiff enough to give you support, as well as the frame, wheels, etc. They're really not to be compared against each other.
You need to get some hard shell powerslide, FR, SEBA, etc. Then use the same frame and wheels
Am a skater from Uganda, thank you so much.
my right ear really enjoyed this
I was taking in the cost of all these skates and I figured out something. I just have my fitness skates that came with 80mm decided instead of buying so many skates, I just ended up buying different frames for all the skates styles i wanted to practice. Now I have track speed skates, long distance marathon skates, roller hockey skates, and added a blade adaptor for ice skates all using my same boot. As far as the cross over? I just loosen the ankle. Or not even tie it up. I got it all with out buying so much
Ну, мягкий ботинок для фитнеса не очень заточен под скорость и наоборот.)))
Тогда нужно как минимум 2 разных пары ботинок)))
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This video is crazy to me. I have those same Macroblade 110s and with stock bearings and wheels I am averaging 11mph = 18kmh on a 10 mile round trip skate. I’m getting 125mm skates within the year so I’ll have to do this test myself. I was expecting a much bigger difference.
How about 3x125 fitness skate against 4x110 speed skate? Difference would be lower, especially shorter distances…
I was racing on my 4x80 for 8km and finished in 22min while 3x125 finnished 20km in 30min
20 км за 30 минут? Марафонец что ли?
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It would be interesting to compare skating in a tuck position versus being more upright. I have a bad back and can't do the tuck position and am curious how much speed I'm losing.
My average speed on ~23Km distance with a PowerSlide Next 3×110 is 24-25Km/h. I don't have heart rate monitor.
Viktor Thorup on a similar skate 32Km/h. That ~8Km/h difference is a lot, and he was barely sweating.
same here, 24km average is my all time best
Same here I hoped speedskates would make a difference. Fr skates 110 232 mm frame. Maybe a longer frame makes you faster or perhaps speed bearings
Interesting test! Would be curious what level of skater you have to be to start noticing this advantage. Would an intermediate fitness skater, for example, get the same advantage in switching to the faster speed skate? Or would their technique/speed not be good enough to take advantage of it?
When initially transitioning from rec to speed skates you will probably go slower just because speed skates will feel so alien. But as you practice with speed skates you will adapt to them and eventually you should notice that you can skate more effectively in the speed skates. Of course the more skill you have, the bigger the difference, since the main advantage of speed skates is that they give you the highest level of control over your skates.
@@AConnorDN38416 this has been my exact experience! probably switched too early and was definitely slowed down for a bit, but once i was confident i was going much faster
I would be interested to find out what it takes to develop sufficient ankle strength to make good use of the lower cuff of the speed skate boot. It certainly seems like just jumping into it after using fitness skates exclusively is a direct invitation to injury, but I don't know how I would otherwise go about making the transition as a moderately older skater.
I'm not agree with many of comments here. I'm an old man, but I love to skate. I was always skating on 90 mm weels fitness, but couple of years ago I tried to skate on 125 mm - it is a big big difference, I even overcame the Berlin Marathon, although I'm a very week guy.
done the 1/11 in switzerland in 3.59h first time with fitness skates . then i bougt 2 years later pro skates an made the same race in about 3.30h . the pro skate is stiffer but you have to work on the tec to get faster .
Awesome! Can you test the rollerblade e2 pro 125 with or without cuff
Thanks for this test. What i want to know is: do you recognize any difference in the drivingcomfort? Due to a larger diameter from the 125mm you should roll more comfortable i think?! Especially, if the surface is rough.
Depends on the wheels u hav
Bigger wheels = more speed but typically less control
Колёса большего диаметра определённо удобнее, особенно на на очень ровных поверхностях, другое дело, что по сравнению с колёсами меньшего диаметра будет хуже манёвренность. Ну, тут дело привычки и приоритетов выбора.)))
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For someone who is a competent skater in fitness skates, how hard is it to get used to not having the boot over your ankles? Do people sprain ankles often?
Ok I got some speed skates and this wasn't really an issue at all for me. Don't feel like I am at risk of spraining an ankle at all.
Большое спасибо! Очень интересно!
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I notice the speed skate only take a few step on the ground. Don't know it is because the boot or the wheels. But you look more stable using the speed skate rather than the fitness skate.
Can you also review normal skater legs vs Viktor Thorup legs?
Yeah ! 😂
Dude I'm listening with headphones, and only one channel is working when you speak. Music comes in both channels.
Great!
You should duplicate the mono audio from your microphone into Stereo. I have no idea how I got to this video :)
Next comparison can be apec7 /seramic rulmans
Very good. I loved.
My left ear felt left out for this
Victor, why do you wear skates on your bare feet, without socks? Is it better this way?
I came here for knowledge and he opened up saying the macroblades are the best in their category??? Compared to what? Even if you're just comparing that specific brand, there are better options
I'm gonna fly on these things. good grief.
good video, but would be nice to have the audio split between both sides, felt like i was going deaf
It was intentional to not using socks? Isn't less comfortable? :o
Great video, nice comparison!
You sacrifice maneuverability for speed. The fitness skates are set lower. Custom anything is going to be way better. Never buy average.
My Strava record against the largest field (over 800 people) - 4k at 37km/h - was on a pair of trashed ancient Powerslide Phuzion 90mm skates that I bought second hand for 35 euro from a girl with feet 5 sizes smaller than mine. She couldn't believe they fitted me perfectly, lol. A few years later I bought speed skates. But my top speed hasn't improved much since. It is still around 42km/h, and I can sustain 35km/h for about an hour. Unfortunately my fitness went out the window during the pandemic. I wonder if I will ever be able to finish the local marathon without being taken out of the race (virtually the entire field finished within an hour). Perhaps if I would join a club and get some guidance. But I still prefer the thrill of vert skating :)
Ну, тренируйся, постепенно входи в форму, если здоровье и возраст не пошатнули сильно здоровье...
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@@ACMulti100 Thanks for the support :)
suprisingly not as much difference as you would guess. I have the feeling it is more about strength and proper technic than the tech and abec11 bearings (kidding)
i have a question... i ususally wear my skates with socks on my feet, why do many do it barefoot??
Custom speed skates are designed to be worn without socks. This is one less layer of material between your foot and the skate which gives a higher level of control. If your skates fit well enough to be able to skate without socks it is an amazing feeling, as though the skates were part of your foot
Did roller skates give you such jacked legs? Or is it work-out too?
I have the Macroblade 80 and it is so unstable compared to my hardshell boots. They definitely are more comfortable but it is not worth it having more comfort when sitting down. You want the comfort and reliability during turns, cross-overs, every stroke and movement you do. Freeskates are the best for me if you have a good combination of boot, liner, wheels and bearings.
Are my ears bad or did you really say, "I myself is a speed skater"? .................But I did give a thumbs up.
I want speed skate
Not fair for fitness, expect to see same wheel set but difeerent boots/ frame.
why is this video only in the right ear channel bro
Fitness is important
Speed is requirment
If I'm starting in these endurance/fitness skates, am I doing my ankle strength a disservice? I'm curious what the comfort level difference is.
I have strong ankles.
One of the things I struggle with in roller blades is the ankle pressure points.
Where I'm skating won't always be the smoothest terrain.
А в чём проблема с давлением на лодыжку? Голеностоп при нажатии вываливается на внешнюю часть в сторону мизинца?
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Could you do this with 4x 80mm.
I feel that's a better test.
Anyone here? Would like a guide on the boot vs shoe style of boots it uses, I feel boot is better but unsure
What kind of watch is that? I am looking for something to track my speed.
Can you share your customisation details i wanna make a same pair
Can it play Crysis on ultra settings?
I noticed that you do not wear socks, is this a preference or is it a benefit to no socks? I feel that I skate better in thinner socks.
His boots are probably custom molded. So socks are unneeded/would make his foot to big for the boot.
@@playlist5455 how does that work with sweat?
Dear Victor- which skate wheel is better for roads. thanks
Fitness skates
Зависит от личных предпочтений и от характера (гладкости) дороги где планируется катание.)))
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I’m curious how much harder it is to keep the ankles stable
At first, quite a lot! If you're looking to make a faster and smoother transition into low speed skate boots, you should take a look at this training plan I made for that specific purpose :) viktor-s-site.thinkific.com/courses/your-first-course
@@thorupviktor, спасибо за видео. Честно, говоря, я немного удивлён не очень большой разнице в средней скорости между фитнесом и беговыми конька и, всего то, в районе примерно 10% (около 4 км/ч). Другое дело, было бы интересно сравнить их по пиковой максимальной скорости на пульсе примерно в 170 и выше, скажем, в течение хотя бы 5 пройденных кругов. Возможно, что там разница будет больше. Если есть возможность, запили это видео. Можно также ещё отснять драг - рейсинг (максимальное ускорение с места) на дистанцию, например в 100 метров, чтобы понять разницу в пройденном отрезке времени.)))
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what is the brand ?
Is rollerblade a good quality?
my right ear liked it
My left ear did
do 3x125 vs 4x110 vs 3x110 1x100
does bigger wheels means faster?
Yes. Assuming all else is equal.
my right ear liked this
Just to check: 4x110?
How can you do that in no socks!
Как страшно едит посадка 90 градусов хотя должна быть 40 градусов на внешние ребро не встаёт
How do u calculate the speed..? Pls reply so i can calculate to
Speed is distance divided by time taken to skate that distance. So in this case 4km distance, then you divide by the time it took but it has to be in hours only, not hours:minutes
Как вариант, купить велоспидометр с GPS. Либо найти отрезок / круг и т. п. заранее известной длины либо промерить самому вручную и засечь хотя бы по секундомеру. Тогда хотя бы будет известна средняя скорость.)))
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I am looking forward a comparison between normal wheels and luminous wheels
It isn't much of a difference. People make it out to be MUCH slower, but the reality is its a tiny tiny bit of drag, which doesn't change the actual time/speed that much. Comparing the Luminous to any other low end wheel (anything at or below 100USD) the performance is about the same.
How are you going to do a proper speed comparison when using 125mm wheels on one skate and 110mm wheels on the other? lol come on, of course the 125 wheel setup is going to be way faster... I don't even need to watch the video. lol.
This is a comparison of a fitness setup with 110mm wheels and a Speed setup with 125mm wheels. Not a comparison between a tall and a low cut boot 😊
@@thorupviktor I didn't mention anything about the cut of the boot. You're comparing speed. Larger wheels are going to be faster than smaller wheels, that's just physics. I like your content. Just pointing out that if you're trying to see how "fitness" skates, stack up against "speed" skates in terms of how fast they go, you would need to use the same sized wheels.
@@sile26, даже если будут использоваться такие же рамы и такие же колёса, специальные беговые ботинки и ролики на них будут быстрее, потому что как минимум энергоэффективность у беговых ботинок за счёт их более высокой жёсткости будет явно выше в сравнении с фитнесами.
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How fast can a beginner go on those rollerblades?
10mph = 6 minute mile. This can easily be done on skates.
Я думаю базовая скорость новичка вряд ли будет быстрее 15 - 20 км/ч. И то, такой скорости поначалу для новичка будет явно более чем достаточно в плане адреналина и отсутствия его умений.
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Или вопрос в том, за какой период времени новичок более менее научится кататься на роликовых коньках?
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@@ACMulti100 ? Why do you assume i understand that? Thnx for ur awnser tho
@@Vera-hc8ce, тогда не очень понятно был задан вопрос. Под словосочетанием "How fast" что конкретно имелось ввиду? Скорость езды или время, за которое можно научиться или что - то другое? Просто возможно вы имели ввиду вообще что - то третье...
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Your voice is one sided
Play this video with wired / wireless earphone
U will get it
No socks!?!?
Excuse me?! Fitness skates with no socks?!
This guy looks like he’s about to offer to pay for my lung cancer treatment.
Op
Jesus, 32.5 kilometers an hour average speed? That is awesome! Imagine if your cities were actually designed for people instead of cars. You could easily uses skates as your primary commuting device to get anywhere. Cars need to be banned from cities forever.
Нужны так называемые велобаны. Т. е. как автострады, только поменьше и для средств на мускульной тяге и всяких бричек - электричек)))
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Wait. People skate with no socks?!
Nearly all pro level speed skaters skate without socks
Yeah a lot of people skate with either very thin or no socks at all. I personally like to cut off old thighs for skating socks, it's very cheap and fits nicely. Mind you, this is only applies of you actually have good quality skates, otherwise it can make things less comfortable.
Rollerblade "these overpriced macroblades aren't selling... Let's call up Viktor to make a video how flimsy macroblades are as good as $1000 pro skates..... That should boost sales..."
I have normal sales and I’m faster and u lol
Skates*
Those shitty macroblades cost $300 these days for crap. Waste of hydrogen wheels imo
Bro, wear socks
I'm beginner, should I use fitness or slalom? Sorry my English is not good
Что тебе больше по душе и что больше нравится, тем и занимайся. Здесь тебе вряд ли кто - то ответит на твой вопрос точнее и лучше тебя.
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Great vid thanks 🙏
Fair comparison would be if there were the same wheels and same bearings