Brink - What Happened?
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2020
- On this episode of What Happened, we wade through the web of Bethesda to find out what happened to this promising FPS hybrid shooter! What did Todd "Krang" Howard demand? How did Pete "Shredder" Hines muck things up? The answer might surprise you...
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It's actually pretty sweet how all the devs are like "man, we did this thing wrong, but it was my bad"
Seems more like a learning experience more than anything else
The studio that developed it sure as hell learned a LOT from it, their new project Dirty Bomb was AWESOME in the gameplay department BUT they had a very bad project lead for waay too long and when finally a good lead came in, put the game back on track it was way too late and people already wrote off the game. Since then they ported Halo:reach for the masterchief collection and it did not recieve any bad press as far as I know so hopefully with that money they can finally make the game they always wanted and be succesful with it for once
From my memory: Brink is quite fun, and I recall even on single player, with a Medic you're hauling ass across the map to revive people left and right while shooting down enemies. My main issue was the story wasn't much.
SapphireSword75 75 Richard sounds like that one kid in the group project who did absolutely nothing during the 6 months and is now angry and pissed why he got an F but everyone else got a B or A.
True. I truly wish the developers will give this game a second chance so it can be done right.
Ironically, brink really was the future of FPS. It was including simple parkour based moment in a multiplayer twitch shooter years and years before cod or titanfall. As well, it attempted to be a narratively focused multiplayer shooter, which is a trend becoming popular right now. It may have done everything bad, but it certainly was ahead of its time
Sometimes the vision can be absolutely revolutionary but the execution just falls flat. The best version of something is rarely the first attempt
It gave those who came after it lessons in what not to do while giving them ways to improve on the good ideas it had
so it was a sega console?
Reminds me of C&C: Renegade, which had a multiplayer mode with vehicles several months before Battlefield 1942 was released.
"The kids just DIDN'T get Bubsy, MAN" is my new "I don't have to explain my art to you."
I feel like he should've been more mad that their work made a bad game, rather than being mad at people not liking a bad game, that just so happens to have a VERY misleading quote on the box.
@@plasmaoctopus1728 He should actually have to play the game.
@@Mysticgamer ah yes, if he never played it then that could also be a slight issue (I'm understating of course)
"Well you see the funny thing is that you DO have to explain your art to us because WE PAY YOUR FUCKING SALARY!"
@@ImTheMan0fSteel Bubsy and Mario 64 came out at nearly the same time. One of them nailed it immediately.
I actually remember having a genuinely good time playing this back in the day on the 360 even with low player numbers. I remember I maxed the 4 classes. Too bad it didn’t stick the landing :(
Man I remember this too
Maybe we even played a round or two
This game was actually fun I think it just comes down to people weren't ready for this style of game back then
If it was given at least a couple more years til release, turned free to play earlier and put things down to micro transactions, as well as having a bit more polish to the characters, this game would be super successful
Mate, on PC with 60fps and MKB controls it feels good fun.
Yeah personally I loved it I still haven’t copy and sometimes hop on and I’m sad it died off :(
Man, I got it on release on a whim and had some mad fun with it! I was actually really sad when it started to die out
Couldn't agree more, loved it and was sad so many people didn't but I couldn't act like some the things they said weren't true, but if anything the setting of the story was amazing and felt like something that had never been tried, it just sucks they left to audio tapes to tell the story, which were fun to listen to in my opinion especially the final one that would've introduced the 3rd faction
How many times have we even heard the phrase "That's my fault" on Wha Happun? Good on you, Ed Stern. You're a good man.
I guess that's why the studio is still alive, people acknowledging their shortcomings instead of blaming others
Only time i can remember is Jace Hall
@@AgentDanielCross There's also Michael Manheim.
@@zahylon5993 Unlike some of some companies that might as well be saying "Agh, these stupid fans aren't buying our crap, why can't they just like eating shit for dinner?!"
I mean he sort of blamed the VAs, too, he was just "but it's mostly my fault I guess" at the end.
The first thing that came to mind when Brink was releasing, and I don't many talking about it was "Wow, these are some weird character models" and "What's wrong with everyone's long/scrunched faces?"
I always wondered how many generations of inbreeding would humanity need to look like those mongrels
The character designs are really off putting. I don’t know who thought that was a good idea.
I came to comments just for this. Those character models are ass.
It’s refreshing to see a studio give very honest and humble responses to where they went wrong and could’ve done better. It’s something so many modern studios fail to understand, instead opting to blame their fans for bad reception, only to start unnecessary drama.
What of that bubsy denier?
I'm here for the Havana Smooth.
Hey! Civvie!
When's Pro-Daikatana Civvie?
Civvie where's Pro TNT?
Hey I know you🤠
I need my video civvie im starting to get the itches.. I suck you off just a short video man that all i need i unsubscribe after that i promise!
So glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
Ironically, Brink is remembered for giving us The Anger, aka, the "Generic Edgy Sniper Hat™"
Yes, the hat that's on almost every Sniper I see, the one that's valued far more than it should be because every edgy knobhead wants it, and the one that's always painted a hideous lime green.
@@mrfatweedington9562 There's not much of a development team for TF2 right now. They have people on standby to fix things that need fixing, but it's only like 3 or 4 people.
Valve lets their devs work on whatever they want, and with CS:GO and DOTA 2 being more profitable these days, as well as using newer tech, people just don't want to work on older games like TF2.
Ah yes, The Anger. The unholy child of a Soundsmith Warpig and a Linkin Park album
@@russellbrown6888 Building good-looking lime loadouts since 2010, others' salt is just icing on the gameplay experience cake 😎
And tbh there just aren't all that many good, standout sniper cosmetics, especially hats. Probably why Anger still gets used so much today. Looks good, actually stands out, mixes well with other cosmetics for cool looking loadouts, etc. 🤷♂️
@@russellbrown6888 are you having a laugh?
"WHO ARE YOU!? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO BETHESDA!?"
Priceless.
Pffft.
It was pretty great.
Yeah, Bethesda would NEVER give away an older game for free. Now I am off to play Fallout, Fallout 2, Arena, or Daggerfall for free.
"Medic here now I need!" is the best way to ask for healing. Another awesome video Matt!
To be fair, if I was a medic, and I had to prioritize who I'm gonna heal, "man currently having a stroke as he begs for help" is pretty high up.
@@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong I agree. Big brain!
Brink is actually one of my favorite games of all time. I used to play it all the time when there were still people playing it on the 360.
Damn your expectations are low af
imagine if this was an industrywide practice
"lmao let's just make sunset ovetdrive free, nobody's gonna buy it now anyway"
I mean, it got given away twice with gold and it's on gamepass soooo...
Sunset Overdrive is amazing and I won’t hear anyone say otherwise!
Its a good idea. The Brink IP isn't really worth anything so why not try to generate a bit of interest by releasing it for free? If it don't work, you lose nothing since it wasn't selling anyways and if it works and people are hyped about Brink, you revived the IP and can introduce dlc.
@@stevethepocket Hell I'd play Rogue Warrior if it was free. Wouldn't pay 5 dollars that's for sure.
@@iceytoa1 No, no. Imagine it just fucking becomes free on the store out of nowhere. No passes, no gold, no strings attached.
The only thing i remember about this game, was the hat in TF2.
The ANGERLY
Mr. Smiles 98 I remember people saying it was gonna be the call of duty killer and the tf2 killer and now call of duty released another new game and tf2 still has a player base
@@whiteboard7thstreet whenever a game is announced and it's hyped be something like a "cod killer" I heavily doubted it would be. Even if the game turns out to be good or amazing, it still won't dent the sales of a massive million dollar franchise that's built a huge fanbase over 2 decades by now.
Ha, I got that preorder 'Genuine Anger' hood bonus, shamefully; used a description tag to add "You'd be genuinely angry too if you pre-ordered Brink".
Brink holds a special place in my heart, not so much for the package as a whole but the individual pieces of it. The movement system, character size dictating said movement, plenty of choices for weapon and appearance customization for the time. Props to the devs for attempting these features, and for admitting that they just didn't work out instead of trying to shift the blame onto others
It's a shame Brink came and went so quickly, I legit loved Brink. I even re-bought it on the PC one time on sale to try it and see how big my nostalgia goggles were. It wasn't incredible by any means re-visiting it, however, it still had many neat ideas and a unique style. If it had a small thriving community backing it to this day, I'd probably still hop on for an occasional handful of matches.
"It's really rare that a studio that worked with Bethesda managed to pull themselves back from the Brink of closure."
Mwa, A+ writing, Sir.
I was really looking forward to that one back in the day :(
Yeah me to man big time
was the first game I bought where I was like, "wait this really sucks", even as a kid, I could see shit stunk
I still kinda like the game, strangely enough. I too disliked it on release, but then returned to it years later (before it went f2p) - and still play it from time to time.
Same I hoped Brink would be the new Team Fortress for console. A fps with team based objectives, I was wrong and felt bad because I told all my friends to buy the game. 😥
Genre-Breaker: A game so terrible it takes the entire genre down with it.
I'd love to see one for The Order: 1886
It was just a bad idea from the beginning
The order was a glorified tech demo. It worked and looked great was just boring and repetitive.
A game that should've been a launch game
oh man I legit forgot about that game
Play 15 minutes of the game, spend 13 of those minutes picking up and looking at things, never question why anyone doesnt play it again
As a personal friend of Richard Ham, I know he would love the chance to sit down and talk to anyone who would want to interview him about any of his foibles in the game development world. You should reach out to him, or I could help you get a hold of him if you like. In his own words there is a lot he could share about this.
I would love to see this game get remade. It would be amazing if the developers were given a second chance to make this game again and learning from there mistakes before. Personally, I thought the game was good despite it's flaws and heavily defended it when many thought I was nuts for thinking it was good.
If it gets remade, it definitely could be better such as having more levels, more detailed story, strong character development, added dlc features, and updated graphics (this game would look stunning if it were cell shaded).
@@infamouscrusader3363 Ikr, I would absolutely love it
@@Matt-pn7cq Me too.
Can we get a What Happened for MAG? I wonder if anyone even remembers that game
I remember seeing it on sale at Walgreens back when it first came out
I remember.......I......I
I remember mag. It was my primary ps3 game for a while when I first bought one. Yea those were the days.
@@treyricks7348 Yea the hype died really quick for it.Made me wary about online only games from there since the servers was shut down a few years later.
The game that still had full matches before they shut down the servers? Yeah, probably some that remember it lol.
I actually really liked this game when I was younger, but it never took off, it reminded me of shadowrun
It was a great game, played it a lot with my siblings. Only have good memories of it. Small framed sniper ftw.
I bet Total Biscuit could have talked at length about it too, he liked brink. :(
Shadowrun on 360?
I got my character to max level. Got all customisation options and got all endings 😂 Yeah I liked it a bit too xD
I think it was the world building and lore that really kept my interest.
Same, the world building really pulled me in. Unfortunately, it pulled me in and went nowhere with it. For me it wasn't that they didn't spoon feed me their story, it was that they told me just enough to be interested and stopped writing.
@@Bleusilences hell yeah I loved that game
I have great respect for editors that put "advertisement brake" warning before it happens.
Even tho I pay for youtube and have none showing up.
I like that quote by the lead writer, he seems like a cool guy.
God, No More Heroes music is so goddamn great
MY SPLEEEEN
@@bishop6881 I CAN'T FEEL SHIT!
@@hotmealdotcomma I'm gonna kick you in the nuts.
God yes
MAMAAAA
8:58 ah yes I remember playing Gears of War 2 and Dom would keep yelling "Etc!" at me. Good times
"Genre Breaker" sounds like a weird fighting game move.
That'd actually be a fun fighting game title. Think: Every character from a different genre. You have, like, a dora the explorer-esque kids show character with a magic pointer mouse fighting a Cthulhu-looking motherfucker. I'd play the shit out of that.
Genre breaker the movie the game
I actually really love Brink! It was fun and creative, and had more than enough story for me with the two sides fighting for what they both thought was right.
Can agree with the odd AI behavior for single player though, but that never ruined it for me.
When I was in middle school I traded Halo 3 for Brink... I deeply regret that trade. lol
Sugestion: Grabbed by the Ghoulies
The moment Rare's golden age came to an end
Ohh yeah that game was trash
I liked it...
YES
@@AxisChurchDevotee I liked it too, brother
Hey, I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say that the Batman: Arkham Origins multiplayer was, while monetized the hell out of, pretty fun. It consisted of 2 three-person teams from either Bane's mercenaries or Joker's gang. Then there are 2 heroes on the same team; Batman and Robin. The 2 gangs try to win by eliminating the other team's backup lives. The heroes, while they can respawn as much as they want, need to take down enough thugs of each side while also trying to prevent any other win conditions. It was really fun to play.
Also, what's Brink?
Great multi-player, couldn't agree more. It's biggest issue was actually low player count and thus long lobby downtime but the games kept you looking over your shoulder since everything was out to get you, whichever side you were on
Oh, god, I forgot about the lobby wait times. I mean, I was kinda used to long loading times, as a PS3 player, but still, it was obnoxious.
Also, I’m glad it was only 2 heroes, because DAMN they were over powered already. I remember WB having to patch the game to make it harder for the heroes to win, like upping gun damage towards heroes, slightly increasing the night vision goggle battery life, things like that.
Shit, I also forgot to mention while WB took down the multiplayer servers, you can still play the multiplayer on the PlayStation versions apparently. I can’t test it, because my PS3 is currently on my repair list, but I am excited to get to it.
Yyyeeeeah no
The moral of this story: Think before you Brink.
god damn it that was gold
I found the front cover of this game thrown on the pavement walking home from work once...
I’d really like to know why jump force looked like “shite” and had no rematch feature day 1
It was made to be disposable, even though it was made to "celebrate" the 50th year of weekly shonen jump.
@Grima the Fell Dragon Yeah, I played a lot of J-stars back in the day. Jump force don't even hold a candle compared to it J-stars
Because Anime games almost always sell super well so why eve try to make a good game
@@TexasHollowEarth when was the last time you checked? because you can rematch in Tekken 7 lol
@@TexasHollowEarth If you set a lobby to 2 slot it offers rematch character select and stage select at the end of a won round, long before Leroy was out too I do this literally every day
2:00 YAY No More Heroes music! I love it when I recognize soundtracks!
I remember playing the shit out of this game when it first came out, I loved the idea of a parkour shooter. I'm hoping this pumps a little life into Brink, last time I checked it was free on steam.
dotncha just love waking up on sundays to see an episode of What happened?
A great write-up, but missing one thing. The artstyle! Brink got me excited because it looked SO good. The character customization was mind blowing for a game in 2011.
I love this video series of yours, Matt. Thank you for producing these wonderful documentaries!
My best memory of Brink was going to PAX East and being invited to a special off-site event for it, wherein I got a can of spray paint that had a fake bottom where it had the famous Brink mask. It was made out of the same material as men's briefs. Also, upon entering, a *very drunk* Adam Sessler was seen leaving. I don't remember alcohol being served there, but he seemed to enjoy his time at the event!
I appreciate how even-handed these are. Makes them a lot more interesting to watch than if they were just trying to be sensational.
I love this damn game, i got it back before i had internet and i loved beeing able to play multiplayer game with bots. If it's free ima grab it
Little did we know that Brink was the grandfather of the undercooked "live service" bandwagon
Lesson Learned: Don't rely on a Day 1 patch to fix your game.
I remember having a lot of fun with this game when it came out. I didn't like how choosing your character's body type would force you to choose between what stuff you could parkour or weapon selection, but the depth of customization on your guns was really cool! My favorite was an assault rifle that I had sacrificed clip size, rate of fire, and reload speed all for the sake of power, essentially turning it into a (near) one hit kill sniper rifle. It's a shame it never caught on. I would have loved to see what a sequel would have brought to the table.
I guess we were all at the BRINK of exhaustion waiting for this one...
I know my way out.
That joke put me on the BRINK of death
I'm out.
As someone who has lived and loved parkour for the last 7 years i have to say your parkour comment was the best part of this video. Love the vids, keep em going.
I remember enjoying Brink a lot at first on the X360 because it was a an FPS where I could play medic/support. I'm rubbish at shooting, but keeping my teammates alive and contributing to victory this way was a blast. But I dropped it after a few weeks because there was just not enough content. I was playing the same missions with the same objectives over and over again.
YEEEEEEEESSSSSS YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
i remember pre-ordering and beeing extremely hyped for brink. When it finally came out i had alot of fun but never really understood what i was playing. The game didn't have alot of mechanics but they were so confusing and forgettable (for example bots or the character systems) that i stopped caring after a couple of days. after all it didn't really deliver what the trailers promised.
Seriously good job with your video editing, dude. I especially loved the little ad break 😅
Thanks for covering this. This was a game that was heavily promoted in my lan party group many years ago, t shirt give aways, posters, etc, but I never really got what it was all about. All I knew was that it wasn't very good, but didn't know why.
Metroid: Other M. Please do Metroid Other M.
It was Sakamoto's ego that hurt this game. BTW he did say that the Prime games weren't canon. Today he says that other m isn't canon and prime games are now.
There’s not much that can be said about that wasn’t covered in the famous Something Awful write up. Maybe the update regarding Sakamoto not apologizing for it in the lead up to Samus Returns.
Still would be neat to see it presented in vidya form
OH I HAVEN'T WATCHED IT YET BUT THE MAGIC WITHIN THIS VIDEO I CAN FEEL IT
maybe it wasn't noticed, but I really appreciated the advertising breaks, it keeps the video from feeling like it's cutting you off in mid sentence. good call all around, 10/10
I love how you do your advertising breaks. It’s like I’m watching the tv so professional 😉
I weirdly feel like the devs legitimately learned from this game more than many other episodes of Wha Happun
I hear that Ratchet & Clank music in the background, that's enough for me to give the video a like!
@2:30 Absolutely fantastic choice of music Matt.
What song is it?
Love these vids Matt keep em coming!
I'm more saddened that the soundtrack died with it
Metal Gear Survive, Left Alive, or Quiet Man maybe?
If he could get information about it, maybe the Titan A.E. tie in game that never got released, or heck Titan A.E. in general.
Think most know what happened with Survive.
Konami boss: we need a metal gear game fast!
Konami secretary: you kicked out kojima, how are you going to do that?
Konami boss: WITH ZOMBIES! The kids love those these days.
Konami secretary: I don't know about...
Konami boss: And we'll add micro transactions, like additional save files! Brilliant, brilliant I say!
Love that no more heroes track in the background!
I know I suggested this before, but the recent news about all the cut content in Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time really made me crave for a Wha Happun in it.
This makes me wanna see you do Gotham City imposters
There's already vids on that
Classic af
My favorite review of this back in the day was Yahtzee calling it a bad team fortress 2 that was hard to distinguish what classes people were
Oh man, that's right! They had health pool and mobility tagged to body size, ha ha, no matter the class! That led to some, uh, interesting moments.
Finally this came out.
Nice use of Havana Smooth in the video Matt! ROTT Soundtrack does go with everything.
You pumping these out quickly
Anyone else kinda surprised Matt hasn’t made a “Wha Happun” on Metal Gear Solid V. I would’ve thought he’d have done it some time ago.
Definitely. Only MGS I never bothered to beat. Just played the MP. Like who makes MGS open world? That ruins the whole point of the game with how you interact with enemy routes and the ways you outsmart them.
@@MoldMonkey93 MGS V still allowed you to do that, in fact I would have actually enjoyed it more if the world was a bit more fleshed out. It was honestly a pretty empty world in my opinion; with very little in between major locations.
Digging the "Streets Of Rage 2" background music.
4:15 YES. 👍🏻 PSA: If you’re gonna have midroll ads... make a specific cut for them in your video! It’s always annoying when a video is stopped mid-sentence because of an ad.
Another great vid! I’d love to see you cover the troubled development of MGS5 & Survive.
Such an underrated gem this game was a part of my childhood and it’s a complete shame that it didn’t meet the criteria we were expecting and to see it die off so quickly has left me speechless. This game definitely deserves a sequel or a remake! ✊
I'd like to see you tackle The Order 1886; that seems like it could be an interesting tale of staggering hubris
I'd be interested in a breakdown of evolve, considering that from what I can tell, what brought it low seems to be relatively standard practice today...
I remember my friend really getting into Brink, but after seeing the character artstyle I just remember being like nah lol
Remember spending good times with friends on this game back in 2011...
I didn't know Brink was free on Steam... I'll have to get it and check it out. Thanks, Mr. McMuscles!
Highly informative video, as always👍
You should do a first ever "What's About To Happen " about the the upcoming Fast & Furious game.
"Wha Gonna Happun?"
@@AtomicWandMassager That sounds even better
He should make ones about games they should make to make a amazing Trinity of videos called Make it Happun
I was so excited for this game for years before it came out 😭
I played brink it wasnt bad it just wasnt i actually enjoyed it i wish it was more popular
That Scout during the medic bit was gold.
Gotta love that the trailers and movement system painted the picture of large maps to interestingly traverse and fight it and all it ended up being was a corridor shooter
I have always thought brink was the most 5/10 game ever made. I can't name one other thing so perfectly average
When the heck did i play this game? I thought i played this when i was a little kid but i guess I didn't play it that long ago as i had thought
I still listen to the Resistance Menu music (the one which uses the erhu) occasionally. Great stuff.
I recognise that streets of rage music playing in the background anywhere. Nostalgia
Huh. Well. After 7 years, I finally know the story. And it’s more peaceful than I thought. Wow. This feels weird. Like coming across an old photo album.
The advertising breaks go a long way. I get so irritated when mid sentence 5 more ads need to pop up in the middle of the video, not interrupting the flow of the video with a little card that has thought where its placed, you get a gold star from me...what ever that's worth
Best series on YT at the moment!
1:17 love the no more heroes right there
"Pull themselves back from the brink of closure."
I see what you did there.
THE MADMAN ACTUALLY DID IT
Yeaheh boai
I loved Brink on PC can't believe you made a 2020 video on this.
It won a poll.
it had some cool new mechanics I had not seen before. At this point you should do a what happened to Section 8 though that's been covered before, wonder your take on it.
Lol you replied before I could edit my original comment.
Honestly the movement in that game and level design based on movement for different the characters made it refreshing and fun like if you were a lightweight character you could really go places unlike the medium or even heavy where you had to stay on the ground.
Barely a minute in and I'm reminded about Clover Studios closing...guess I'll continue this video after my cry.
At least they bounced back to make Platinum, and if Capcom wasn't going to respect them then maybe it was for the best
The only thing I remember from this game is how bizzare the characters look.
This game was one of my first FPS games I ever owned since it was rated T, so still look back on it nostalgically. Hope maybe someday with their newfound knowledge after releasing the first game that they release a sequel.
I remember Brink was VERY hyped in my highschool. Everyone said that they were going to get it and play together, then it was delayed and everyone forgot about it. Skyim and another few games were announced/ anticipated for 2011 and thats all people cared about.
Make “what happened to syphon filter” since u brought it up in the vid
Didn't series just ended? Like, there were enough filters so developers just stopped syphoning them out?
What happened to Syphon Filter? It became Days Gone.
No, really, Days Gone is an alternate reality where Logan and Liam failed to stop the Syphon Filter virus.
Apollo 18 link??
Well, there’s this Easter egg:
ruclips.net/video/atHTWb6F-5U/видео.html
Also the scientists in Days Gone wear the same hazmat suits and Gabe’s taser is an unlockable weapon.