Mbappe and Haaland in England's 12th Division (they're terrible)
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2023
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Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2023 experiment video I put Mbappe and Haaland in England's 12th division at Collingham FC to see how well they'd do. And it turns out not very well at all in the depths on England's non league pyramid.
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Dude send them to the English 3ed division for 20 years. Sunderland might be a good option.
Put Premier League Teams In the 12th and 11th and move the teams in the the prem
Tom can you still get the in game editor on FM 23 because download’s doesn’t come up when I join the game
I also live in Lincoln
I used to play for Godmanchester Rovers so pleased to see my team keeping Haaland and Mbappe quiet😂
best team in the world fr
St ives clear
@@Seth_mcd nah goddy clear
@@Seth_mcd live in St Ives now but have to confirm that Goddy are indeed clear
Common Godmanchester Rovers W
If you went on holiday as their manager wouldn’t that mean the club can’t resign players or bring in new talent? If so that’s probably why they struggled as they likely had a team worse than what they had at the start of the game
Like someone else said it probably would work better if you just kept their rep the same if they were locked into the club anyway. It would mean they’d still be playing every game and there’s no need to worry about them jumping ship
Yeah I'm certain this is what's happening here. Would explain the terrible defensive records.
To add to this, it’s not just the World Cup/euros, they probably missed a ton of games every season through playing Euro/WC qualifiers, friendlies and nations league games; the rest of the team isn’t exactly going to beat teams two divisions above their level, much less win that league.
The assistant takes over
I forgot to mention in the video, I set all the responsibilities to the coaching staff, signing players, contracts etc. So I blame them!
@@TomFMyou chose the always play this tactic when possible so was the tactic outside of haaland and mbappe being upfront a bad defensive tactic?
if you're the manager, was it a case that the other players were leaving at the end of their contracts, and no other improved players came in, so it had randomly generated grey players to complete a squad?
UP THE COLLINGHAM🟠⚫️🟠⚫️
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I rate you man's logo 😍
the colors💀
To be fair, what Brits call a cold and rainy night is what people call a lovely summer night in Norway
This was cool but probably would've been better (and easier) if their reputation had been made to match their teammates rather than set to the lowest possible. Should me they'd actually get decent playing time and the team wouldn't be struggling with no proper manager. You'd probably also need to get them off national team selection too if you want them to bounce around non-league
Great video as always, with the full wonderkid 11 idea I suggest doing it with Retford United as they already have a decent team for the level so if one of the wonderkids gets injured it won't be as big of a loss than at other teams meaning they might reach a higher level faster and mostly because they're my second club
Ngl I wasn't expecting to see my local team Hucknall Town mentioned in a Football Manager video 5:05 nevermind winning the league ahead of Mbappe & Haaland 🤣
Surprised you haven't done a video where you put each of them at Lincoln for their career and see which one does best and which one takes Lincoln further
Bro you have no idea how fast I clicked on this video when I found out Collingham was in it as I used to play for Collingham and in my last ever game I scored a brace against top of the league
Can you just do four elite "spine" players? So a GK, CB, CM and Striker? Then there will be some balance.
Best video ever Tom, let's get more of my home town team Hucknall Town and their fancy new stadium in some videos!!!
Videos like these remind me of the career of Lucas Lobos, an Argentine player that was very successful and popular in the Mexican MX League, and then decided to retire by playing in his super small hometown team Club Unidos de Olmos of the Liga Amateur Platense, a small amateur league in the city of La Plata in Argentina.
Leave their rep as it was and they would've played every game
What I am learning from this game. You can have the best strikers but if your defense is poor you will lose many games. The minute you improve the defense your team explodes in doing well.
Tom if you are moving a whole team of wonderkids to a 12th division side please bring Szoboszlai as a midfielder
Video idea : get a manager to win every single division 1 title in every european league
Managers dont do anything in fm u can remove all managers from man city and man city will still win they are bugged so ur idea doesn’t work
He can make it so the manager he is controlling goes to city then. He choses what club his manager goes to then sims the season hoping he wins it
@@manpond9510 - WORSE! Played a save with only UK leagues loaded. Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, etc still bought every player. I used the in game editor to give each of those clubs a reputation of 1, the max NEGATIVE financial balance, and gave 1 to all their facilities. Despite those penalties, somehow those teams kept winning their leagues, winning euros, and signing the best players. It's like FM hard coded certain teams to do well, and no matter how much you try to penalize those teams, those teams will win.
Regarding the point on managers, all you need to do is sim a few seasons, and check the non-playable leagues. Most will have no staff at all - yet these teams sign players and win European competitions.
could it be potentially linked with the fact that you didn’t set the midfield and defence when using current team selection?
Be an awesome video just having 20 for the stats highlighted in the players position but all other stats being 1 or maybe a full squad of players with 20 free kicks, corners, jumping reach and heading
Thats a funny vid, but a team of wonderkids does work but you may stay in various divsions for a few seasons. I did this save in my fm22 which I found enjoyable but come the premiership it was a struggle
im actually doing a city of liverpool save, currently in league one.
that defense is a war crime
Haaland average rating of 10.0 but only 4 POM doesn't quite add up!!
4:29 - first year Haaland had a perfect 10 rating but only POM in 26 games? and Mbappe had 21 POM in 25 games but a slightly lower rating.
how is that possible?
Alternate experiment: the best goalkeeper, the two best central defenders, the two best wing-backs, the two-best central midfielders, the two best wingers, and the two best forwards, each position group in a different team in the 12th tier.
I mean, there are enough divisions for them to get promotion bids without clashing too early.
Imagine the videos if this happened, ‘the best strikers to never play league football’
Man when you do those sims put leages like this on full sim, when you dont change sim details of league max teams can score are 3 rarerly 4 goals a game.
how can you make a future transfer for after 20 years? in ingame editor our future transfer finishes max 5 years later unfortunately..
can you tell how?
Bloody hell, Collingham is just down the road from me!
You should hire the best assistant manager on the game and give him all the transfer abilities so they can improve the squad and lock them in too.
Why not trap an entire like 16-20 wonderkids at like...a tier 18-20 club? They'll be playing for 20 years at least so will a wonderkid team get all the way to the Premiership? Or will the poor training facilities mean they never hit their potential?
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FM doesn't handle lower leagues well at all. I did a similar experiment (started at 10th tier) with a 200/200 spine AND perfect facilities AND a ridiculous front of kit deal (240m per season) and if you holiday, the team doesn't progress very far at all. BUT if you give them a maxed out HoYD, they do much better (I used Christina Kindt). Without the max HoYD, the club sputtered at tier 7. With the HoYD, they were a yo-yo team popping into the Championship for a cup of tea every few years before falling back to League One.
Somebody that lives in Newark, I think it’s hilarious that Collingham still can’t win with the two best players in the world lol 😅
Collingham manager kicking himself leaving them on the bench. He now manages Winthorpe
Why not put the worlds best goalkeeper and defence at a 12th tier team?
next time, maybe try one world class striker and one world class goalkeeper/defender
That's half-decent handball numbers for Haaland.
Next time, try with one keeper, one defender, one midfielder and a striker. And don't stay manager when they start getting playing time.
thus is why you should do defences in non league
Could give a team a gk, a cb, a midfielder and a wonderkid striker and see how they do
Thanks for putting them in my team, luckily I play RB.
Been wondering is it possible to get a country outside europe to qualify for champions league and europa league
? like China or Australia or Brazil. In the editor obviously.
Gotta be Australia right? Pretty sure EuroVision has already confirmed they're secretly a part of Europe
The No defence team
That 12th tier club should be Wombwell Town 🎉
Challange: Take the Current UEFA champions leauge teams and put them in the vanarma national. See who gets back into champions leauge football first and who fails to escape the national leauge
A team of 11 wonderkids would be interesting because a lower level team probably doesn't have the facilities or coaching to let them hit their potential
Yes and no. In my current save with Penzance, which started in Tier 10 -most teams in tier 10 had rosters filled with single digit CA players. Even undeveloped wonderkids are usually in the 70-90 CA range - which is good enough for Vanarama.
So Haarland, Mbappe & 9 wonderkids should easily earn promotion after promotion, win the FA Vase and other minor trophies, and hopefully earn enough revenue to begin investing in facilities.
Additionally, playing regularly, their skills will continue to improve, albeit at a slower pace - but still good enough that it will earn yearly promotions straight up to League 1 (and possibly championship) - where the team will definitely earn enough money to make facility improvements.
Godmanester rovers is in footbal manger :O whoop go goddy !!!!!
Should have chosen the mighty sleaford😂
Rookie numbers, indeed
I guess AFs don’t get involved in the play enough to help the team
OMG!!!! How bad is the rest of that Collingham team?? In my current save, I've been playing Penzance - which started in the 10th tier *South West Peninsula League Premier Division West). We won promotion in the 1st season, with trialist walk on Frank Rosenald leading the league in scoring. Rosenwald had a whopping 30 CA as a 24 year old. That 30 CA was the BEST of any player on the Penzance roster - yet we won the league easily.
Still playing that save, and have Penzance up in Championship. Been a long, fun journey.
But damn.... Haarland & Mbappe and only 2 promotions? How did the team do in cup play? You shouldn't need a team full of wonderkids. Heck, at 12th tier, a team full pf players with 40 CA plus Haarland & Mbappe should be enough steamroll to 8th tier in 4 seasons - and hopefully the AI GM signs a few players..
Used to play for them when I was younger
Try Haaland and M'bappe in an Irish League club.
Next Lincoln?
Can someone tell me how he got 12 tiers of England in FM?
Yeah I wanna download this database
At least in lollujo's saves, there are only six playable leagues in England (up until the National League North/South).
how do you get below the 6th tier i can only do that
I always saw Messi and Ronaldo as two sides of the same coin, excelling at the same level in different ways. Can’t honestly say Mbappé is on Haalands level when he’s on for 50 goals playing in England
Do a video with the team as Stafford rangers
How did they win a league by conceding 155 goals 😅
So confused why they didnt sign better defenders. Did they have enough money with paying the two extra players? Did you get rid of any players to put Mbappe and Haarland in?
You were still the manager after the first season?
Move a perfect manager to the squad so he knows how to build a team 😂
big up sleaford
Up the skeggy
Anyone know what he is using to do this ?
what is this website called?
Their attributes surely drops every season due to the poor training facilities
Did you ever end up doing the video where you wanted to trap wonderkids in the 12th division?
I came 3rd in your fantasy league today, where did you come Tom?
"The future messi and ronaldo" No chance nobody is like them. Haaland can't even qualify for the euros lol
I used to play for collingham 😂😂
What would happen to English football if it was 5 up and 5 down in every league, and how would it change the landscape of it ???
tom instead of uisng whole team of wonderkids use mbappe haaaland and pep guardeola
as there manger
Godmanchester Rovers. Wtf is that name
A full 11 of wonder kids could work
Video suggestion: create one perfect GK, one perfect defender, one perfect midfielder and one perfect striker, put them in different teams in the national league and see wich team performs better (this idea came after a save were i was really having a hard time to survive in the Premier League, until i got Diogo Costa for free and my team went from 15th place to 6th, then 2nd and in the third year i won the league, guess GK are op)
12th Division is Not terrible in Germany - the 13th is when you have drunkards and big Referees...
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It’s sad, but i get why content creators scam their fans for own profit
Tom will probably not promote gambling again :)
He seems like a great dude
Game name
Mbappe would be good but not rlly haaland unless he’s getting service
Tottenham are already destroyed ffs 😂
Imagine Man City get stripped of everything and punished to the limit
Sorry Tom but Collingham are in the 11th tier
Not to nitpick but Collingham are in the 11th tier
day 5 of asking what skin does tomfm uses ???
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Haaland the next messi or robot
The next robot 🤖
How can you destroy Tottenham they allready implode every end of season
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