so ive had this one for a couple months now. find out the average of CA of a relegation side in the prem make a team of players with that CA, but you can pick where you want the stats on each player for your formation / how you want to play. basically see what you can win having bunch of "meh players CA wise" but the stats are cherry picked i thought this could be fun test, but little awkward to set up if players are getting sold etc
Is it easy to move entire clubs to a new league? Would be fun to see if the big teams in italy/spain/bundesliga etc could compete in like the prem. Or prem teams in bundesliga? I know english teams are OP in FM so maybe teams like Luton would destroy la liga.
Give every team in Portugal a Tycoon owner. Give every team in the Netherlands a maximum youth rating. Simulate 100 years to see which league becomes more dominant.
I don't like how you put Andy Andrew in the middle of your banter wars, Clats. He's a good lad, family is active in my church. He doesn't deserve this.
here is an idea, how about flipping around the reputation of the clubs, so prem teams have a rep of 2000, championship has a rep of 4000, L1 has a rep of 6000, L2 has a rep of 8000 and national league has a reputation of 10,000. lets see how strange the leagues can get
Whenever you hear about Norwich you cannot but think of the one and only legend that is Andy Andrew. He is the real hero, not in the normal footballing sense, yes he’s good but he does so much for the local community. After training on a Thursday he was seen up on the local primary school roof fixing the cladding. Ran the London marathon to raise money for a local charity close to his heart. Donates regularly to Guide Dogs. An ambassador for the community library, believes everyone should ‘workout’ their mind by reading a book a week! The one and only big up Andy Andrew.
Interesting stuff I think if you extended the parameters to perfect youth management and coaching staff, the results might also have been different, it's knowing how to develop the youth team and making the right kind of choices like moving them up from U18s to U21s or sending out on loan when they go pro or giving them more 1st team minutes/cup games etc. Youth development has always struck me as a rather more micromanagement aspect of the game.
The AI at Ipswich didn't do well because it didn't really improve the staffs at the club, same thing for Norwich and its the reason why they both struggled to be established clubs in epl..
Luke Woolfenden Captain at Ipswich after 5 years. Norwich Youth Player called Woolfenden at RB. Any relation Couldn't see the family being happy with this
Money is always going to win but on the Youth side perhaps you need to lock in a manager that has a focus on playing young players plus ensure they have a locked in amazing HOYD to ensure the youth rating is taken advantage of
"The best facilities" - Clays 2024 with an Image of the new Bournemouth training grounds in development. (if that is the best then guess Bournemouth is gonna be a top 6 side pretty soon.
Andy Andrew is an elite regen name, up there with Li Ki-Ho 😏 Curious to know what the Norwich club philosophies were, like are they a club that required managers to promote players from the youth team. If not, they may have just flogged their high potential players rather than using them?
You should check the PA of talent, if you do youth stuff. You could likely add it as a filter on the youth team of Norwich in this example, and just see how good the talents coming through, are.
I wonder if the staff has impacted Norwich here. Yes they had facilities and youth coaching etc. But once they hit the U18's the coaches at the clubs take over. Maybe that limited their development ability of world beaters?
Maybe should have set the teams reputation to the maximum, allows each team to recruit/sign the best players from the start. Possibly allows the youth intakes to be the very best.
Feel like you need to make sure that the training staff and youth staff is good at the club you set up for youth academy is good, otherwise they are just going to fall off fast
Ipswich got conference league because Chelsea won the carabao cup and would have finished in the Champions League positions automatically giving Ipswich the European competition
You could do again with Wrexham and Newport county, or Swansea and Cardiff so the youth team benefits from Welsh youth players rather than spread the English ones everywhere
An interesting take on this would be to play through both of these scenarios, instead of leaving it up to the AI. Which is better for the player, who is almost certainly better at the game than the AI... Especially those that have made it big on RUclips...
@Clayts Sorry, I didn't mean it to come across that way. Reading back, it started as a comment about the AI's ability, and deteriorated the longer it went on.
Interesting but the test won’t work properly unless you keep Norwich’s facilities and recruitment maxed and the opposite to Ipswich. Otherwise Ipswich will obviously get better whereas Norwich’s will fluctuate. So you are basically testing how quick money takes to makeup the gap in facilities, not which is better/more effective. Also value isn’t a great way to compare players as the value will be impacted by the reputation of the club, as you’ve got editor on you could have shown CA
Well that is a different test. I’m testing how beneficial these initial boosts are, what you’re saying is fine but it’s just not what the video is about. And the test worked perfectly to answer that. And I find value to be a perfectly viable way to compare players between clubs of the same rep, playing in the same league. In the same way that CA is also a flawed way of comparing.
@@Clayts I see what you mean and when I went back you did say that at the start of the video but wouldn’t having max youth recruitment/youth coaching see more of a long term effect rather than an initial boost? Really like these style of videos, thanks
@danaldridge7553 👍 yeah all good, subtle differences but I’m just trying to find out what I find interesting! And yeah, initial boost of maxing out facilities, and tangible benefits of that more long term (after youth intakes)
Bro is attacking Andy Andrew... thats just unfair 😂😂 and could your next experiment like this be from th vanarama national league? Cause i think youth intake will be more useful there. Cause they probably didnt have the time to develope them
a woolfenden playing for Norwich never would happen, also we Town are currently developing our Training facilities and youth level in real life so could be programmed in for the game,
I don't know why they call them tycoons. Most of them inherited their money. I would call them nepocoons or tynepos. I'm workshopping it. What skin do you use?
next time set their head of youth and under 19 manager to max and then you will see alot of good newgens , i dont think facilities and recruitment matters more than those 2
Be interesting if the RUclips comments can come up with anymore experiments they have not seen or would like to see!!
so ive had this one for a couple months now.
find out the average of CA of a relegation side in the prem
make a team of players with that CA, but you can pick where you want the stats on each player for your formation / how you want to play.
basically see what you can win having bunch of "meh players CA wise" but the stats are cherry picked
i thought this could be fun test, but little awkward to set up if players are getting sold etc
Is it easy to move entire clubs to a new league? Would be fun to see if the big teams in italy/spain/bundesliga etc could compete in like the prem. Or prem teams in bundesliga? I know english teams are OP in FM so maybe teams like Luton would destroy la liga.
Give every team in Portugal a Tycoon owner. Give every team in the Netherlands a maximum youth rating. Simulate 100 years to see which league becomes more dominant.
class idea
W idea
For the next youth focused experiment, try giving them a Head of Youth Development with high reputation.
I don't like how you put Andy Andrew in the middle of your banter wars, Clats. He's a good lad, family is active in my church. He doesn't deserve this.
I come here for the content and stay for Anardi’s comments
What are you on about 😂
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@@anardi7112 that would only make sense if I didn’t add about at the end
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here is an idea, how about flipping around the reputation of the clubs, so prem teams have a rep of 2000, championship has a rep of 4000, L1 has a rep of 6000, L2 has a rep of 8000 and national league has a reputation of 10,000. lets see how strange the leagues can get
Ipswich had the facilities at 5 stars by the first 5 year timeskip, so it was never really a fair fight xD
Yeah, they didn’t have max youth recruitment at any point that could benefit them though to be fair
Norwich lost theirs aswell, happens in fm where clubs don’t have the finances for the top facilities
Whenever you hear about Norwich you cannot but think of the one and only legend that is Andy Andrew. He is the real hero, not in the normal footballing sense, yes he’s good but he does so much for the local community. After training on a Thursday he was seen up on the local primary school roof fixing the cladding. Ran the London marathon to raise money for a local charity close to his heart. Donates regularly to Guide Dogs. An ambassador for the community library, believes everyone should ‘workout’ their mind by reading a book a week! The one and only big up Andy Andrew.
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20:58 big upandry Andrea haha😂😂
3:42 Liverpool actually did win it on the last day lol
Interesting stuff I think if you extended the parameters to perfect youth management and coaching staff, the results might also have been different, it's knowing how to develop the youth team and making the right kind of choices like moving them up from U18s to U21s or sending out on loan when they go pro or giving them more 1st team minutes/cup games etc. Youth development has always struck me as a rather more micromanagement aspect of the game.
The AI at Ipswich didn't do well because it didn't really improve the staffs at the club, same thing for Norwich and its the reason why they both struggled to be established clubs in epl..
Filter in the player search screen by the homegrown status by Norwich, that should show all the players than came through their academy
Luke Woolfenden Captain at Ipswich after 5 years.
Norwich Youth Player called Woolfenden at RB.
Any relation
Couldn't see the family being happy with this
Money is always going to win but on the Youth side perhaps you need to lock in a manager that has a focus on playing young players plus ensure they have a locked in amazing HOYD to ensure the youth rating is taken advantage of
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The game isnt set up for teams being given loads of money. They just sign the same players they would anyway but on much much higher money
The issue is the reputation of norwich. They dont have it high enough to fight with reputation of top7, so all the good guys go there
Great video Clayts. Would love to see some more experiments like this!
"The best facilities" - Clays 2024 with an Image of the new Bournemouth training grounds in development. (if that is the best then guess Bournemouth is gonna be a top 6 side pretty soon.
Would defo like to see more of these!
Andy Andrew is an elite regen name, up there with Li Ki-Ho 😏 Curious to know what the Norwich club philosophies were, like are they a club that required managers to promote players from the youth team. If not, they may have just flogged their high potential players rather than using them?
You should check the PA of talent, if you do youth stuff. You could likely add it as a filter on the youth team of Norwich in this example, and just see how good the talents coming through, are.
I wonder if the staff has impacted Norwich here. Yes they had facilities and youth coaching etc. But once they hit the U18's the coaches at the clubs take over. Maybe that limited their development ability of world beaters?
I like how Norwich produce less players in this experiment than in reality
Maybe should have set the teams reputation to the maximum, allows each team to recruit/sign the best players from the start. Possibly allows the youth intakes to be the very best.
Feel like you need to make sure that the training staff and youth staff is good at the club you set up for youth academy is good, otherwise they are just going to fall off fast
Big up Andy Andrew
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5:42 Ipswich literally had 5 star youth recruitment and facilities 5 years into the save cause they spent a load of money on it😂😂
8:00 and Norwich’s training facilities + youth facilities had already started to decrease with 4 n half stars
for the youth saves give them the best coaching set up to like hoyd assisstant managers and so on
big up andy andrew :)
9:54 Tottenham won the league by 6 points!!!!
would be fun to see this type of video again but with portugese or dutch teams
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You forgot a Europa League for Ipswich
They won that in 81 with Bobby Robson
Ipswich got conference league because Chelsea won the carabao cup and would have finished in the Champions League positions automatically giving Ipswich the European competition
As i expected in 5 years both teams have the same facilities... Who could expect that with the money Ipswich has...
Except Ipswich only has 1 star youth recruitment
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Do the same thing again but put a transfer embargo on Norwich
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Sort by Home grown status (trained at club)
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Is it worth adding an embargo to the club you're using at the Youth Academy, so, in theory, you're forcing them to rely on youth..
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Already after 5 seasons the tycoon has gone from front to back end
You could do again with Wrexham and Newport county, or Swansea and Cardiff so the youth team benefits from Welsh youth players rather than spread the English ones everywhere
big up andy andrew
Big up Andy Andrew hahaha
Andy Andrews is my neighbor he didn't liked how you talked about him
An interesting take on this would be to play through both of these scenarios, instead of leaving it up to the AI. Which is better for the player, who is almost certainly better at the game than the AI... Especially those that have made it big on RUclips...
Not really sure what the sass in the comment is all about
@Clayts Sorry, I didn't mean it to come across that way. Reading back, it started as a comment about the AI's ability, and deteriorated the longer it went on.
Haha fair enough, all good
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Interesting but the test won’t work properly unless you keep Norwich’s facilities and recruitment maxed and the opposite to Ipswich. Otherwise Ipswich will obviously get better whereas Norwich’s will fluctuate. So you are basically testing how quick money takes to makeup the gap in facilities, not which is better/more effective. Also value isn’t a great way to compare players as the value will be impacted by the reputation of the club, as you’ve got editor on you could have shown CA
Well that is a different test. I’m testing how beneficial these initial boosts are, what you’re saying is fine but it’s just not what the video is about.
And the test worked perfectly to answer that. And I find value to be a perfectly viable way to compare players between clubs of the same rep, playing in the same league. In the same way that CA is also a flawed way of comparing.
@@Clayts I see what you mean and when I went back you did say that at the start of the video but wouldn’t having max youth recruitment/youth coaching see more of a long term effect rather than an initial boost? Really like these style of videos, thanks
@danaldridge7553 👍 yeah all good, subtle differences but I’m just trying to find out what I find interesting! And yeah, initial boost of maxing out facilities, and tangible benefits of that more long term (after youth intakes)
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Whats the name of your fm skin !!
Where he speaks normally in 1.5x speed... 😂
Good comment this, makes loads of sense
You missed Ipswich also won a europa league
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Money over youth recruitment any day. It’s quicker to buy talent than develop it, look at Man City in real life.
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Bro is attacking Andy Andrew... thats just unfair 😂😂 and could your next experiment like this be from th vanarama national league? Cause i think youth intake will be more useful there. Cause they probably didnt have the time to develope them
Youth will always be better in these because clubs spend money stupidly in fm
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should have searched players by trained at to find norwich/Ispwich players
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a woolfenden playing for Norwich never would happen, also we Town are currently developing our Training facilities and youth level in real life so could be programmed in for the game,
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Can someone explain the conference league qualification?
England always get a extra spot if you win the league cup you would qualify for the conference league
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Barca and madrid basicly
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I don't know why they call them tycoons. Most of them inherited their money. I would call them nepocoons or tynepos. I'm workshopping it. What skin do you use?
It's in the description
@@RonnieWave I didn't see where it was explained why they call them tycoons in the description?
@@anardi7112I'm talking about the skin
next time set their head of youth and under 19 manager to max and then you will see alot of good newgens , i dont think facilities and recruitment matters more than those 2
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Did you give Norwich a good Hoyd too? If not that could affect them
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