Nat Lofthouse is a club legend at Bolton Wanderers. He played for us during the 1950's and early 1960's. His goal record for England is up there with the best as he scored 30 goals from 33 caps. We also have a statue outside our ground.
Very fun to help out would like to see some more potential vs with the pair of you. Maybe a pair of created managers or Wrestlers. I dunno. Was a great format!!
out of interest what detail level did you have it on when simulating, never seen those kind of numbers before on ai teams. was the spanish league view only?
No just normal playable detail on... had England and top euro leagues on. They were just unreal and very big and strong fast. So could hit haaland numbers. Both had 200 PA so reached very high 180s. I've seen haaland get those numbers. So makes sense in that respect I guess.
Great video. You could do another 1 but force your players to move clubs each season and you can’t play for the same club more than once. Means you’ll see different leagues and have to choose your teams wisely
Regarding jumping reach at around 3:25 in the vid: height does not matter. Often you see taller players have more JR, but a 5ft with 20 JR can jump as high as a 7ft with 20 JR.
I think one piece that no one realized is that unless I miss read the dates toms Barcelona team did beat clayts Real Madrid in the champions league in 2038/2039
Jumping reach is same for every player regardless of height. A player who's 5 ft 1 with 20 jumping reach will outjump someone who is 6 ft 8 with 19 jumping reach
Kind of yes, kind of no. It’s only true if every other attribute is the same though, strength, positioning, etc etc all play a part. But yes, jumping reach incorporates the maximum height they can jump to, regardless of height. The other fact is that taller players are often stronger and ‘better in the air’ (because of other attributes). It’s also the maximum height a player *can* reach whilst jumping, not every single time. So a taller player is more likely to reach a higher jump consistently but a short player with better jumping reach *can* out jump them. The bigger the discrepancy between jumping reaches, the more likely this is to happen. Remember the engine is a series of thousands of calculations in every scenario. Source: speaking to the developers directly.
Great video, altho next time undo something like this I would love to see some highlights if possible. Perhaps increasing the amount of matches stored so u can see rhem more in between saves?
Now that your players have retired, you should set their managerial stats to 200 and see who becomes the best manager overall, as well as their player career
Might be an odd shout, but Bordeaux (a historic french club) failed to make it to the top flight for the second year in a row and are now facing big financial problems. Would be interesting to see you save them in game !
An interesting variation on this challenge would be a lower league one. For example, you lock both players to a Gibraltarian or a San Marinese club for the first 5 years of your career, with the relevant nationality, and see where you go from there...
fantastic video idea! but yeah clayts surely did best but Tom won that clearly at the end, hope you can do a rematch! maybe with a free tranfer coin or something? just if you wanted to do a third club? ^^ damn insane how good both players were though!
Do this again, but lock in your actual sizes and make your player how you yourselves play. If youre a CB, then youre a CB. Also start with a lower starting CA and in an obscure league to make it really interesting
My European ass heard "I weigh almost 15 stone I'm a beast" and went to convert it to kgs just to feel bad because that's pretty much my weight at 5'11 lmao (still a beast tho don't get me wrong)
Fm is super underrated im sure these two Carrers are far too better and realistic than these FC and Pes one before even clicking.And with the best RUclipsrs representing them!🙏⚽
Instead of strikers, I think one should have been rw and one lw. Less direct competion, and you could have ended up in same team, forming some Robbery-like pairing.
Idk why they value only the PL goals. Like Clayts did almost 40 gols in a season but he only says "23 in the league". European competitions and cups are not important?
Who won?!
One like on the video = Clayts
One subscribe = Tom
Nah joking, comment below here!
Tom
Honestly not even close😅
History repeats itself, Messi and Barcelona against Real Madrid so I go for TOM AS THE WINNER
Tom
yeah Tom wiped the floor with you tbh
Tom scoring 170 league goals in 3 seasons is my highlight here
TomFM cleaned up clear wiiner.
Would be good to see this as a series with you as wingers, cams,cm,CB,FB and GKS!
🤔 interesting
great idea
Tom in fm is clinicly insaaane bro any fm who looks at him will faint in disbelief
By far Tom is the winner here. He absolutely cleaned up the footballing world and left it spotless. What a career he has had
Nat Lofthouse is a club legend at Bolton Wanderers. He played for us during the 1950's and early 1960's. His goal record for England is up there with the best as he scored 30 goals from 33 caps. We also have a statue outside our ground.
Thanks for the info mate
Very fun to help out would like to see some more potential vs with the pair of you. Maybe a pair of created managers or Wrestlers. I dunno. Was a great format!!
Tom vs Clayts in Total Extreme Wrestling Would be Great
out of interest what detail level did you have it on when simulating, never seen those kind of numbers before on ai teams. was the spanish league view only?
No just normal playable detail on... had England and top euro leagues on. They were just unreal and very big and strong fast. So could hit haaland numbers. Both had 200 PA so reached very high 180s. I've seen haaland get those numbers. So makes sense in that respect I guess.
I haven't seen such a good video in a long time guys, BRAVO 👏👏👏
We need more of these type of videos from both of you, this is super fun to watch
Great duet. Have a real joy to watch this episode. Thanks for your work! Tom won ofc)))
Looking forward to this one! Roll on the Ballon d’ors!
Criminal not knowing who Nat Lofthouse is!
At least I knew who he was… even if I picked the wrong team (or two) that played in white.
Famously Tom had never heard of Maldini though…
@@Clayts Tom did not knew who Maldini was? omg
And Geoff hurst is “much better”……. Yikes
Great video.
You could do another 1 but force your players to move clubs each season and you can’t play for the same club more than once. Means you’ll see different leagues and have to choose your teams wisely
Super fun concept. Cheers
that 2030 world cup is crazy, tom scoring 8 goals and two games where you two cimbined for the only three goals of the game
Regarding jumping reach at around 3:25 in the vid: height does not matter. Often you see taller players have more JR, but a 5ft with 20 JR can jump as high as a 7ft with 20 JR.
Yes
Great video lads, love the concept!
I like that Tom plays mind games with the media
I think one piece that no one realized is that unless I miss read the dates toms Barcelona team did beat clayts Real Madrid in the champions league in 2038/2039
Did TomFM get WC2030 Golden Boot? - scored 8 across the tournament (Clayts a measly 3)
he says it in the video mate
Hell yeah the two guys who got me into FM
This was so fun guys! More of this, unexpected content. Really great video! Tom's the winner for me😂😂😂
I don't think I've ever seen an AI player score so many goals in the league every season like Tom's player did at Barcelona here, madness.
Jumping reach is same for every player regardless of height. A player who's 5 ft 1 with 20 jumping reach will outjump someone who is 6 ft 8 with 19 jumping reach
Source?
@askefn I can't remember the name of the channel its possibly filipino fm where jumping reach was tested and this was to be the case
@@askefnit's filipino fm and omega luke who covered this
@@dannytilley4878 really interesting thx man
Kind of yes, kind of no.
It’s only true if every other attribute is the same though, strength, positioning, etc etc all play a part.
But yes, jumping reach incorporates the maximum height they can jump to, regardless of height.
The other fact is that taller players are often stronger and ‘better in the air’ (because of other attributes).
It’s also the maximum height a player *can* reach whilst jumping, not every single time. So a taller player is more likely to reach a higher jump consistently but a short player with better jumping reach *can* out jump them. The bigger the discrepancy between jumping reaches, the more likely this is to happen.
Remember the engine is a series of thousands of calculations in every scenario.
Source: speaking to the developers directly.
definitely need more of these bro
Would you please tell me how to do stuff like this for my self I have no clue and basically just started am very confused
Tom FM & Clayts on the same video!? This is gonna be good! 🍿
You know it!
Are yoy sure you havent rigged anything clayts?
If I rigged something, I wouldn’t rig it so that I would lose would I? 😂
@Clayts so you agree that you lost 😂😂
great vid tom taks it 100%
Total Extreme Wrestling is like a Wrestling FM you should look into doing some of that together
Who can Main Event PPV first
Great video, altho next time undo something like this I would love to see some highlights if possible. Perhaps increasing the amount of matches stored so u can see rhem more in between saves?
Great video! Would love to see this for Winger, AM, CM and CB positions!
Absolutely brilliant
Looking pretty lean after those Kms you clocked recently!
Thank you mate, trying my best! ❤️
Now that your players have retired, you should set their managerial stats to 200 and see who becomes the best manager overall, as well as their player career
Might be an odd shout, but Bordeaux (a historic french club) failed to make it to the top flight for the second year in a row and are now facing big financial problems. Would be interesting to see you save them in game !
An interesting variation on this challenge would be a lower league one. For example, you lock both players to a Gibraltarian or a San Marinese club for the first 5 years of your career, with the relevant nationality, and see where you go from there...
think Tom just just won, scoring 60 goals in a season is insane
Congrats to Tomfm 😂🎉 great video guys
tom had a season with 60 goals and 16 assists in 38 la liga games he has to take it for sure.
Clayts being serial runner up at Madrid gives me 2008-12 PTSD 😅🤣
wouldve loved to see how this went if Clayts used his real height
How tall is clayts?
@pessipato 6’8
fantastic video idea! but yeah clayts surely did best but Tom won that clearly at the end, hope you can do a rematch! maybe with a free tranfer coin or something? just if you wanted to do a third club? ^^ damn insane how good both players were though!
You two are hilarious
Nice video, I think Clayts will just win. 39th.
I'll give this round to TomFM, because the stats for the most trophy won was stacked in his favour and of course am a big fan of his.
Fair to say Tom won, and by quite a distance, but he wasn’t as tall as you and that’s the real quiz.
The best FM duo!
More of these please ❤❤
Clayts for just playing in real madrid
Do this again, but lock in your actual sizes and make your player how you yourselves play. If youre a CB, then youre a CB.
Also start with a lower starting CA and in an obscure league to make it really interesting
Didn’t see anyone mention that you both glossed over that 2039 champions league win by Barca was over Real Madrid
If you do another video like this choose different nationalities as that might also play a role. But Tom took this one.
Did u do the hidden attributes
How do u put photos on here .. like u guys have on profiles ?
Gotta give this one to Tom!
clayts how do you get the photo onto your player?
this was over as a contest when 6ft 8 was selected as the height. it should have been set the same for both
Jesus, live a little
Already subscribed.. Tom FM clearely won, sorry Clayts. Great video
Tom won this one. All about trophies
I would love to see this video, but if there are no subtitles, it is impossible for me.
You should do this for a Centre-Mid and defender aswell
You guys need to do this with management too after they retire 😊
Hey Clayts! How did you create your own players?? Can't find any guide to this sadly
Good Question, and what skins are they using. It looks way better that the stock game.
The winner is clearly the GOAT of football manger 🤩 TOM FM
Tom definitely won. I thought it would be closer.
You should do this again with more people
My European ass heard "I weigh almost 15 stone I'm a beast" and went to convert it to kgs just to feel bad because that's pretty much my weight at 5'11 lmao (still a beast tho don't get me wrong)
After this now sim them as managers
very original
You scored a goal in the world cup in 2026!
What headset are you wearing astro's? Great vid
Yeah exactly, A50s
Wtf happened in that season when Tom's physical just shot up!
@claytas how do I get the ballon dor name in game
Name fix on FMScout
Do this as a coach but for like 40 years in the future...
I squeeled when I saw Clayts at Cheltenham. C'mon the Robins
Welp.
Fm is super underrated im sure these two Carrers are far too better and realistic than these FC and Pes one before even clicking.And with the best RUclipsrs representing them!🙏⚽
before tom was at barca clayts was destroying him
The disrespect for Nat Lofthouse :(
Where can I d/l the skin? looks good
Gk next 👀
6ft8 with 16 corners, be very funny if they had you taking corners
Nat Lofthouse Bolton legend
Robbie Kean Ahaha Yellowsssss
Instead of strikers, I think one should have been rw and one lw. Less direct competion, and you could have ended up in same team, forming some Robbery-like pairing.
You know it’s the later blommer TomFM who obliterated you out of play.
Idk why they value only the PL goals. Like Clayts did almost 40 gols in a season but he only says "23 in the league". European competitions and cups are not important?
Nat Lofthouse was way more prolific then Hurst
Hidden attributes?
I’m just annoyed as an Arsenal fan that we let a talent like Tom go and never started him
How did you guys create your own character?
Make more vids like this pls
Having waight in stones is ridiculous
Well it’s not is it, since we commonly use it in the UK. Your ignorance and spelling might be ridiculous though.
Tom Fm and Clayts in the same video?AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGG
Natural fitness?
Clayts got done dirty by them playing him at right wing and cam but he did cheat by putting himself as 6'8 so a deserved tonking. We all know who won.
I mean, I don’t think I cheated
@@Clayts exploited a lack of rules is perhaps kinder
I made the rules 😂
@@Clayts exactly. With 6'8 in the back of your mind. I'm onto you.
Nat Lofthouse was a much better player than Geoff Hurst. Hurst was just lucky that Jimmy Greaves had been injured.
If you become a Liverpool icon, you're successful!
ok
TomFM won fair and square
Tom won clearly
Tom have bit ego thing going on,but he was better..he achieved bit more titles, cups,and ballondors..