Daredevil - Karen Page kills Wesley
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2015
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Marvel's Daredevil season 1 episode 10. Wesley getting killed by his own self-confidence and partialy loyalty to Fisk.
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"The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math."
-Wesley
hahahha
Nice PMW quote.
I guess he was stupid enough to put a loaded gun on the table.
nah I wouldnt say stupid enough. he did ask his question: do you think i would put a loaded gun on the table where you would reach it?
Karl Warner
Apparently, yes.
@@GigaChadh976 I know it's been 2 years but the gun was supposed to intimidate her, In most situations the person would never even try to reach the gun, It was only because Wesley misjudged Karen's past and the phonecall that she was able to do that, But it was his mistake and he handled it surprisingly well.
@@tTaseric Even if it wasn't for the phone call to distract him, Karen could easily grab the gun by being fast enough or distracting him in another way. If the gun really wasn't loaded that would've been more clever. I love Daredevil and I love Wesley but this scene was kinda dumb
Aren’t all villains stupid
Frank Castle would be so proud.
Milly Borkovic Frank wouldn’t want Karen to do that
@@sebastianmaregatti Its a joke
John Wick as well.
In the sense that he would have rather done it himself, true. But I suspect he would have been perfectly fine with Wesley's death in either case (disregarding practical concerns of interrogating Wesley for information).
Milly Borkovic frank: ok here’s how to you should do it, you wasted the first bullet to the maimed, the second one goes in between his eyes, now save the other five bullets for the next five guys, unless you see a red gas tank, in that case shot the red gas tank to kill those five guys to save the last four bullets for the next four squat
I think it’s so fucking clever that Fisk calling Wesley, one of the only people he cares for, is the reason Wesley died. 10/10 show
And then he beats the shit out of the guard who allowed Wesley to go alone even though he was following orders.
"What was it like for you when he disappeared? Really, it’s those first 24 hours that are the worst, aren’t they? When you call and you call and you call, and there’s just no answer. It becomes an obsession. The calling. The never-ending loop of a ghost’s voicemail in your ear. You worry. You wonder. You swear "Goddamn it, if he’s still living I’m gonna kill him myself." Is that what it was like for you? Did you rage at him? ‘Cause you thought he betrayed you? Because I wonder what would be worse for you? His duplicity or his death? He died quickly...if you were wondering. Didn’t suffer much. You see, Wilson, Matt Murdock isn’t the person you should be worried about. I killed Wesley. I shot him seven times... Because the clip ran OUT! HE DESERVED MORE!" - Karen Page
Outside: Do you really think that I'd put a loaded gun on the table?
Inside: SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! HOLY FUCK THAT WAS STUPID! SHIT!
+Pat Herrmann W
Lets say Wesley gets healed from the shots and returns to season 3 of Daredevil: I know he got shot and hes dead but lets say he gets healed or something and comes back: Im willing to bet he will not make the same mistake
Silly goose. No one ever comes back from the dead in comic books...
Yeah I'd agree. Hopefully, he'll learn from this colossal error in judgement.
well he might come back if he were to get resurrected by whoever has the power of resurrection
Yeah... Yeah i know. Like someone might stuff him into that weird blood jar that Elektra was in at th end of season 2.
Daredevil's senses aren't nearly as superhuman as Wesley's pokerface.
RTaco Saiyaman level Pokerface.
Wesley did in character to the end now that's impressive.
Get it on with it-Bang, Bang, Bang!!!
RTaco pokeface that lost you the all in... with your life.... I rather not have it at all, fact is, he overplayed his hand thinking no way a spineless nobody was gonna shot him, his bluff got called and like I said he lost an all in with his life, if he was to act scared Karen probably would not have ended up shooting him
By the way if the gun was truly not loaded, he would of pick up the phone
"You really think this the first time I shoot some one?"
Now I get it.
Yes. That was her standing behind Jesse James. That was her on the grassy knoll. That was her who shot the sheriff. That was her standing on enemy lines. Karen Page - we salute you.
@David Rogers Season 3 explains it
And, from the same night, it’s not the first time she’s killed someone either.
Winter Haydn g
@@winterhaydn5640 She shot the sherrif, but she did not shoot the deputy...
"Seven times. I shot him... seven times, Foggy. Because I wanted him dead..."
Yup... 7 shots... Had to count a few times, but yep. There's seven.
potitishogun2961997 and I stopped because the clip ran out
I kind of feel bad for Fisk, because for a man to be that powerful, he must be lonely as shit. And Wesley was probably his only friend. And Fisk lost him.
I Smokes the meats even though it’s a magazine. Fucking marvel!!! Although it would make sense for her to use the wrong word
@@BenDover-cm5mo I don't, no sympathy for him at all
Now thats consistency
I fucking love this scene. Karen was the most unlikely character to take out Fisk's right hand man.
Foggy would have been more unliky
Yes ... but this scene is not complete. Karen has just killed a man, and you can argue that she was involved in Ben's outcome. Karen has done no penance for this ...
Looking forward to season 3. :)
Bobby Torres: I also love this scene. And unlikely or not at least Karen took a chance when she was given the chance rather than not do anything and risk being taken down later. I also like Karen. I still do. Also if i may at least the gun was loaded and did not jam on Karen. Sorry. trying to state facts is all.
Same here Paul Hsieh. Im also looking forward to season 3 of Daredevil and hopefully more.
It's actually fitting that it was Karen who killed Wesley. Why? Well, in his first scene, Wesley was introduced walking up to Farnum in a park, then strong-arming him into trying to assassinate Karen in her jail cell by threatening Farnum's daughter. Here, Wesley tries to strong-arm Karen by threatening her bosses.
This show has the most balls of any project Marvel has ever done. I love it.
Yea its dark but not too dark and entertaining waiting for season 3 !!
Because they took their time and had nothing to lose and a lot to gain.
C. Dawg Knight Ever heard of Punisher?
And then came Infinity War
@@GIGANTUSful Not really, everyone knew that most of avengers were gonna "die"(disappear) and then come back next Avengers.
Also I love Wesley's expression after the first shot. Looking back and forth between the bullet wound and Karen. He looks more shocked and confused than anything, because he didn't foresee this at all. Up to this point, Wesley was able to successfully manipulate anyone he wanted to and thought he could do the same here; which is why he was in complete disbelief that this was actually happening. The actor who played James Wesley really pulled off the subtleties of the character incredibly well.
And his suit was most likely made of the same stuff as fisks
Mans forgot to struggle
because he wrongly assessed Karen, he never thought she was a woman who could do such a thing, who wouldn't be paralyzed by terror
He was like “wait you’d actually kill me right now?!”
Yeah he’s a good actor
"I shot him seven times...because the clip ran out. He deserved more."
After the threats Wesley made, I'm inclined to agree.
- grahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@@jgg1988videos don't move!!
Honestly that “no tears left to shed” threat was beyond chilling. But when he said they’ll be going after “Mr Murdock”, and considering the fact that he had no idea that’s Daredevil, I was just thinking “go ahead and try it, see how that works out.”
It’s a magazine not a clip it ain’t a Ww1 gun.
@@RealHajimeHinata exactly that’s what I said
This guy will kill it at Poker.
👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
+HENRY007
He seemed unfazed that a person was pointing a loaded gun to his face and was able to make a believable argument instantaneously. Like, he was even chill when she was shooting the hell out of him.
took the words right out of my mouth hahaha
More like he would get killed at poker :D
Because he went All-in in a situation where he could only lose. He had a great pokerface, but his bluff was horrible. Karen would have tried shooting the gun anyway, no matther wether she really believed the gun was loaded or not as it was her only chance. Wesley should have let her go or try to beg for his life. That way, he might have gotten out of it.
I love the fact that Wesley was kind of awesome but I kind of hated him too. But after he gets killed you kind of miss him and you start to appreciate him and miss him, even the actor's performance. Most shocking moment for me hands down. At least that was my experience. What do you think? Does anyone here love Wesley too?
Antonio Díaz Yes, I totally loved him with his calmness.
Yah! As much as I hated him, it was indeed Very shocking!
I started to really like him. And I was watching the episode with my dad and in the begining I said " I like Wesley, he's cool! ".... and than he die T-T god why??
Antonio Díaz I know what you mean, he was a great addition to the show. I miss him =(
Antonio Díaz Wesley is a scumbag but I like his calmness and patience. He's a cool villian and the guy playing as Wesley really nailed his character. They killed him off unexpectedly. That was really shocking for me. It made me realize how great of a character he was and now I'm going to miss him. What was really shocking for me was that she didn't just shoot him once, she shot him multiple times. It was an execution and I didn't expect that from her at all. I didn't know she had such a killer instinct inside of her. This show is on some Game of Thrones type of shit.
Did anyone come here to confirm she shot him seven times?
Yup
It was on my feed, but yeah... I counted the shots to be sure, to be sure.
YES 😂😂😂
Same here I couldn't remember😂😂
Just happened to appear on my feed. Makes me wonder, though... Fisk is a powerful man with men everywhere. How did he not find Wesley's body and instead assumed he was missing??
She's shaken and disturbed by what she's down, yet she still has the foresight to take the weapon, wipe for fingerprints, and leave the body. Such an interesting character.
Not her first rodeo. She was originally dragged into this mess when framed for murder.
God I love this show
@@crystalghost1256 She also killed her brother in a car accident. And was a drug dealer's girlfriend before that.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 Man, Karen just has the _worst_ luck huh?
Everyone is upset about his death, but I think it was really smart. It showed he makes mistakes. This one being his last clearly.
I'm actually very glad. They constantly show how Matt Murdoch and Wilson Fisk are flawed, why not a secondary character?
I was hoping he would be some type of secret badass who would beat the fuck out of Matt but his death was rather badly written, don’t get me wrong I love daredevil but this death was just stupid
His death was caused by Wilson Fisk inadvertantly which says a lot too
He's death was reaaoned by his over- loyal to fisk. He cared his boss so much so he want to deal one matter by his own hand however didnt go well.
If he was real person, make sure to make him as ally, not foe
I really didn't like him; I found him annoying. I was glad to see him go, _especially_ like this.
Wesley is Kingpin's voice of reason and one of his few true friends. After he is killed, Kingpin loses his shit and then...
James Chou And then what? D:
Antonio Díaz He becomes the TRUE Kingpin :P
Chris Thompson So ... does he die in the comics?
No. Hes still living.
Chris Thompson So why did he have to die? :(
Congratulations. You played yourself
+KlaymenDel lmao.
+KlaymenDel W
😅😂
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Yep. Maybe next time Weasley will think twice before putting a loaded gun on a table when capturing someone then interrogating them.
I was so sad to see this happen to wesley he was the most loyal assistant ever
it was sad to see him call such a FAT BLUFF and lose to it...respect tho for calling it tho
Wilson and Fisk together was the Wombo combo of Marvel.
Yeah
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@@AMadar-kj5hb wilson and fisk?
I was cheering her on when she shot him...then she shot him 5 more times and i was like 0_0
Frame 2 lol
I know right. Wasn't expecting that to happen.
Frame 2 One shot would've done the job, but 5 extra shots was straight up executioner style. That was hella shocking. I didn't know she even had it in her to kill someone like that. It was like Game of Thrones type of shit.
Kawaii Ninja Yeah, I'd hoped that she'd only shoot him once where she did so he would live. :(
Omg same!!
Badass. I can't tell you how many times in a movie or TV show where the hero has the villain at gunpoint and the villain's all "oh you won't kill me, you're weak and stupid blah blah blah" and the hero doesn't because of their morals or because they think they need them or whatever. Karen was just like fuck that and started some shit. Awesome, dear girl.
Thats literally s3 end lol
@@Rimanda no, its not, Fisk wanted daredevil to kill him, but he refused
@@laurihaapanen9095 because of his morales. Which you just proved him right. Lmao he hates it but literally everything about daredevil is that. Which the punishers literally tells Matt this
It's like the "you won't shoot" scene from Death Note
fr fr fr fr fr
1:39 I used to think she said this to intimidate him but after Season 3 we know she’s serious...
York Town Same! And she did so both times without hesitation because someone threatened someone she loved... her protective impulses kicked in and she just fired those shots without an ounce of hesitation.
amsaric yes! I really don’t like all the hate that her character gets, I find all of her story lines compelling, interesting and I think they add so much to the show, she’s amazing
@@yorktown2541 Karen Page gets hate? I am not finish with season 1 but I absolutely love her character
@@jordanbelfort4103 Yeah, me too
@@jordanbelfort4103 // Yes. Yes she does. And it's very annoying.
I love how Wesley's end was brought on by his obsessive loyalty to Fisk. Because his first instinct was to answer his boss's phone call, he turned his gaze away from the gun and Karen, and rushed immediately to his phone.
I loved this character/actor. He seems like such a sinister businessman. He would make an excellent G-Man in a Half Life Movie.
He would be a good Kingsman
Dude was killed by John Wick himself
@@theGhostfaceKiller666 Viggo... is not going to like this.
He was my favorite character. Not sure why, always liked the sneaky henchman character. Probably why Starscream is my favorite Transformer.
@Daniel Knapp Starscream wants to be top dog, but isn't strong enough to overthrow Megatron directly himself. He is sneaky.
I’d like to marry you, sir.
I honestly love what this show did with Karen giving her a bit of a dark side despite being such a compassionate person. They really made her layered. Like her so much more than her comicbook counterpart.
"He died quickly, didn't suffer much"
~ Girlboss Karen page
The cringe is off the charts
This was another great scene in the show. Karen was scared, alone, and vulnerable; I hate the damsels in distress. Wesley is an intriguing character whom I loved/hated making him brilliant. Thinking from Karen's perspective, Wesley: 1) Kidnapped her, 2) threatened her friends and family, 3) threatened her life. I cheered when she grabbed the gun and saved herself, it was self defense.
And it's great writing. Because we sympathize with both. Wesley's death turns out to be tragic, but it was just as bad for Karen because he would make good on those threats if she didn't take action.
Let's not forget that Wesley was also the one who had her framed for murder and gave the order to have her killed by the prison guard and again by the guy waiting in her apartment - all of this just in the pilot. Granted she doesn't know this.
You guys all have it wrong.. Wesley and the Fisk organization were the ones on the defense since she was poking into their business. Karen would never have been kidnapped or threatened otherwise. What I hate about this is the promotion of the myth that you can recklessly gamble at coming up against a well organized, funded and better managed opposition and just win.. Its stupid really and also dangerous..
Unfortunately, some young people have bought into this madness.. Also, she was no damsel in distress.. rather, she was/is a 'busy-body' damsel who has yet to learn her lesson..
@@emetdara2999 sounds like you would have wrote the show to be really boring.
loll.. I see why you'd think that but there are many ways to be creative or interesting without employing 'annoying' antics..
_Wilson Fisk will remember that_
Wilson Fisk would never know.
@@Coffee1776 He knows, cause Karen decided to tell him
1:39 the foreshadowing to season 3 ep 10 is amazing oml
Mavi SPOILERS BITCH
Mavi ikr I came back here to watch it after that scene.
It's not foreshadowing, it's continued in later seasons.
SPOILERS for DD S3
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Karen: You want secrets? I can tell you a secret, Wilson. Okay if I call you that? I feel like we know each other well enough by now...
Fisk: As you wish, Karen...
Karen: Great. James Wesley... What was it like for you when he disappeared? Really, it’s those first 24 hours that are the worst, aren’t they? When you call and you call and you call, and there’s just NO answer. It becomes an obsession. The calling. The never-ending loop of a ghost’s voice wail in your ear. You worry. You wonder. You swear ‘Goddammit if he’s still living I’m gonna kill him myself.’ Is that what it was like for you? Did you rage at him? ‘Cause you thought he betrayed you? Because I wonder what would be worse for you? His duplicity or his death?
Fisk: [Breathing heavily]
Karen: [softly] He died quickly... If you were wondering. Didn’t suffer much. You see, Wilson, Matt Murdock isn’t the person you should be worried about... I killed Wesley. I shot him 7 times. Because the clip ran out. He deserved MORE.
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Chills dude. Utter chills. I love how they brought this scene back. This show is fucking amazing...
I had chills watching this!
S03 was straight fire!!
I was looking forward to this scene
Right then I thought Fisk would pop her head open like the Mountain did to Oberyn
Lo acabo de ver y por eso vine a recordarlo.
I really missed Wesley, Fisk wasn't the same man after his death, it was a good movement for the story, but, it still hurts, I liked Wesley's character...
I loved that scene. It's such a cliche that the good girl never shoots, or the empty gun thing. When she actually killed him, I was YAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS
And after I saw you say yas I, CRRINGGGGGED. Though I agree with your statmeny
when you said cringe I cringed
Luke Roughan When you cringed at her cringing, I cringed.
Silver Win5 and I just cringed at you cringing at me cringing at her cringing at the comment
I like this whole Cringe-ception u guys got going here a cringe within cringe within a cringe
Damn, nobody’s gonna talk about the way the episode ended. The music keeps getting more intense as the phone rings, then stops and the screen fades to black yet you still hear the phone ringing right before the credits roll in. Gives me chills every time.
To be honest, I have to give it to this guy for keeping his cool when Karen managed to get his gun away from him. He was bluffing, but he managed to tell that lie with a straight face.
She has more balls than batman
+Misael Meraz No, she's just terrified. Look at her face. Batman shows restraint, she caves into fear. It's easy to cave into fear.
+EmptyMan000 had batman "caved into fear" hundreds of not thousands of the jokers victims would still be alive and Barbara would still be able to walk and Jason Todd would not have turned into a psychopath after he joker tortured him. But I digress.
and Daredevil
MyRandomLlama that's bullshit logic. The only reason batman doesn't kill the joker is because the joker is as if not more popular than batman. Killing him off would be wasteful for the writers. Even in the dark knight returns batman said " the list of all the people I killed by letting you live!" I'm just happy that the new batman has balls and actually killed.
MyRandomLlama it's not against his character to kill, he has done it before and the most recent adaptation of him does it too. It is reasonable to sometimes take a life to save many. That's why I love characters like the punisher and sticks who actually know what needs to be done.
Wesley was easily one of my favorite characters. Honestly he was at times and even in this scene scarier than Fisk. Throughout the series you never see Wesley lose his cool. Unlike Fisk who is full of emotion, Wesley is almost devoid from emotion (other than the fact that he does truly love Fisk and would never betray him) and that is what makes him a scary villain.
This scene was so badass. There’s always a scene like this in a movie where the character doesn’t take the opportunity. She did. FIRE
I feel like Wesley is one of the most underappreciated characters in the show. Guy was a great character who exuded calmness.
My Reaction:
Okay Karen is going to use the gun to bluff her way out
Ok she shot him NOW she's going to walk away
HOLY SHI- HE DEAD HE DEAD HE DEAD
TheFoolArcana yooo 😁😁😁
😂😂
TheFoolArcana be honest, after the first shot is fired, she had no choice but to finish him off, before any shot fired, she might have gotten away and he would respect her enough to not stay his hand at least for a while, but after firstblood is drawn, he was never ever gonna stop hunting her, so she had to finish him off
How did you know how I reacted!?
Yeah I also thought the same cause the first bullet hit him in the shoulder I thought she was gonna run now and he will still be alive but nope she shot him 7 times I would've preferred if she didn't killed him
He's only evil with his glasses on
Am I the only one who thought he was one of the better characters and the deaths of he and Urich kind of felt like serious losses to the show? Like, not saying it was a bad decision, but I really liked those two characters :/
Wesleys death was neccesary to state the begining of Fisk downfall
nope Kannon. You are not the only one
I felt the same about a certain season 3 character..
Very emotional. I loved it
Deaths are supposed to feel that way.
Punisher would be proud.
Spy Soldier He probably say "Atta girl!".
I think Wesley really thought Fisk was a good man. So much that he thought his ridiculous plan of trying to get Karen to convince Foggy, Murdock and Urich that Fisk is good would work because he truly believes that himself.
Anyway, this is easily the most shocking scene in the entire show for me. Perhaps the saddest too since I think Wesley could have played a bigger part than Urich for at least another season and he could have been my favorite right hand man in decades. I think he's honestly my favorite villain in the show already.
Edit: Also, Wesley's actor put on a great performance. One of the best in the show.
just rewatched season 1 and damn, why?? Wesley and Ben were so good and it's sad that we only get to see them for one season.
+Danjoker
I know. Such a waste. :(
+Danjoker Ehhh, I'll remember to finish the season next time before I do some stupid research. Got spoiled on Ben's death, I guess :p
Frederick Pasco Shit man sorry, but don't ever take any risks out on the internet before finishing the season
Danjoker It's okay, it still managed to surprise me. Fisk is a great character.
+Danjoker Fuck Ben, I felt sad when Wesley died more than any character in this show or any other show. I just finished Episode 12 of Season 1 though. no spoilers please.
When he says that he's not there because he wants to, but needs to. It makes me think that, given their strong friendship, he saw that he needed to help his friend. He's one of my favorite MCU characters.
This scene will always be amazing. The part where she shot him many times and realized what she has done just screams smart and realistic writing these writers have.
This bit was so fucking tense!
The tension broke quickly, in fact
AAWWWW No. Wesly was too badass to be killed of that easily. :( I actually liked his character and how he always so collected and unnerved during the hardest of times along with being kind
Yes
She needs a really good lawyer.
RIP Wesley my favorite villain character in daredevil
I remember I cried when I watched episode 12, the scene Fisk react to Wesley's death is really heart-breaking :(
Yeah, but then you remember Fisk is an a**hole that killed Ben, and is responsible for Mrs.cardanis' death. The last few episodes really made my jaw drop.
***** OMG same XD I definitely found myself liking Wesley alot more than Ben!
lmao no i was laughing my ass off
truee, i was never really fond of fisk (even tho hes a great vilian) but his friendship with wesley was one of the things i loved about s1 and i liked wesley's character generally; his loyalty to fisk and how fisk always seemed to only trust wesley no matter what. and after his death... it just got more obvious that fisk cared a lot about wesley, not just as his right-hand man but also as a good friend. i really wish we could see more of them, especially in s3.
Yes, Karen is a real bitch smiling and enjoying to relate him how she killed his friend. Is a cinic woman and Daredevil could have let her die in the church murdered by Bullseye, cause Daredevil from far, is a very better person than her.
I don't know if it's the director or the actress but she handled the gun quite well. She immediately grasps it with 2 hands, the first place her finger goes is over the trigger guard which is a common resting positions for one of the big firearm rules, don't put your finger on the trigger unless you're ready to shoot. Of course she immediately is ready to shoot but there was that half second where she isn't sure and she's holding the gun properly at that moment. She even puts both thumbs on the left side of the gun. Frank really would be proud.
Wesley at 2:20 be like: yep thats me you’re probably wondering how i ended up in this situation.
I must be a terrible person, I laughed so hard the first time I saw that scene XD. That was so unreal, he fucked up hard...
+Ging De honestly it came out of the blue...she shoots him...i mean damn.. the fact hes so smug and self confident ... kinda adds to that
I don't think you're a terrible person, I usually laugh when a bad guy gets what's coming to them in such a way. The funniest part of the series for me was when Foggy hit that thug with the softball bat.
your not a terrible person at all Ging De. Maybe Im a terrible person feeling bad and sorry for Wesley
Well I laughed as well, only because the plot twist is unbelievably stupid and out of character. My 10 year old nephew could write shit like that, only he doesn't get paid for it.
Same shit caught me so off guard
great scene, but I agree with a lot of the comments here, Wesley was killed way too soon. was a great character
Lol, this guy first gets killed for killing John Wick's dog.
Now he gets killed in Daredevil for messing up with the girl.
How is going to be killed in his next flick? XD
The new Sean Bean.
Who was he in John wick?
@@roger9592 The guy that John kicked in the balls and then got drowned by him. It's the beginning of the nightclub scene.
@@gigawingbolt oh yeh I remember now
It's great when a show isn't afraid of having impactful characters die, in unexpected, yet significant character developmental ways. And it shows great understanding to keep other characters around who leave their own imprint on the show, like Vanessa or Karen, etc.
Wesley's death was key in Fisk's growth, as was Ben's death in Matt's growth. What a show, so excited for season 3!
The ultimate poker face because in his head you know he was freaking the fuck out.
Who else thinks this actor would make a perfect Dr. Doom
nah, he would make a perfect two face
+Diesel Lover *Riddler
he'd make a great uncle ben
+ainsley toledo so will sean bean
He would make a great anything
I digged this character, and the performance by this actor, SO FUCKING MUCH. Goddammit.
THIS is how you deal with threats. You don't waste time with non-lethal force. I mean, what did Daredevil accomplish by letting Fisk live? NOTHING. Fisk quickly rebuilt his empire from prison.
I know this comment is old but who are we to decide who lives and who dies ? Also people can change so by killing them you neglect them the chance to be better so of course they should be punished but not that way otherwise Daredevil is just as bad as Fisk.
@@jackbauer5455 Wrong thats pure b.s. If Daredevil kill Fisk he isnt as bad as Fisk because DD will save lives or potential victim from that monster now If Matt doesnt want to kill anyone fine by me he is DD. But dont tell me that Punisher is as bad as the criminals he kills because he isnt, actually he is a more efective anti criminal force than DD.
@@jonathanmora8208 ok your right in that they are not as bad but it is a slippery road if you start taking matters into your own hands hence why most heroes don’t kill think about this way how many people have become villains in comics as revenge for a heroes taking the life of their parent ? So it creates a cycle plus look at what it did to the Punisher he’s completely unstable although understandable after what happened to him.
I am among 2 others WHO CHEER OUT LOUD!!! when the crook finally gets his COME UPPENCE at movies, when some thug comes at you YOU PRESS him til you fall even Bruce said do whatever it takes to to stop the EMENY Before YOU. See Billy JACK and John RAMBO for details.
Some people don't know how to separate fiction from reality
Damn Wesley poker face is amazing
Yeah but he didn't pick the call
Anyone can guess the gun is loaded
1:49 It was at this moment, Wesley knew... he fucked up.
I fucking love her. I really don't get the hate towards this character; her development has been incredible.
And if it's because she shot Wesley: get the fuck over it.
+TheDivasPalace Because she's fucking annoying ! Wesley was a great character, his relationship with Fisk was great and so does his loyalty, but Karen is fucking annoying ! She manipulated Ben
+TheDivasPalace This character is annoying. She put herself in danger and the one who ends up dead are the poor guy next to her, who got manipulated by her talk. Lots of time in the serie, they have told her to stop but no, she wants the attention, she wants to be rescued but she also wants to be the strong independant women, she causes problems around her and she don't learn anything.
Wesley in that scene did not plan to kill her and she knows it, she could accept the deal and keep it down low for a second but her choice was to kill, after that Ben's death is also connected by her stupid moves.
So no it is not a great character and I can't be on the side of this kind of person, who acts before thinking and get everyone into trouble.
+TheDivasPalace
Personally, I don't hate her over it. That is what most people would do under such tension.
What I didn't like was how out of character Wesley was, I mean he was the most cunning and devious character of the series and yet he didn't predict this reaction when he placed the gun on the table?
Her ego killed many as you see in Season 3
I don't think a death scene could perfectly encapsulate a character quite like this. It's dumb of him to put a gun in the table, in retrospective, sure, it's stupid. But this is like a great mask off moment for Weasley. He's just a nerd. He walks badass, he talks with intimdation, but he has no power himself. even if he is the cog at the very top, he's still a cog. The way he looks to his bullet wound at the end is so cathartic, because you can see how confused he is, that he would ever get shot dead being a man so powerful and close to the kingpin. He died because his ego and lack of experience took control at the wrong time.
Yeah, saddened as Fisk was by Wesley's death, he didn't take long to promote someone to replace him. By season 3, Felix Manning seems to be filling Wesley's old job. And after season 3, Fisk just settled for finding right hand guys who he would not get emotionally attached to.
The way scenes look and sound, the dialogue, the performances and the cinematography is goddamn excellent!
I stole this from Tumblr, but Wesley is essentially what a villainous Hufflepuff would look like.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Spilers for Season 3
Karen confronts Fisk and tells him that she killed Wesley
Just realized she wasn’t bluffing when she said “you think this is the first time I’ve shot someone”. She shot her psycho ex in season 3 trying to protect her brother.
The acting just so GREAT IN THIS SCENE. Karen is so flawless
everyone is blaming karen about killing wesley. but in the comics, she has a pretty dark arc. not just murdering or killing, but she auditions for an acting job, loses it, becomes a porn star and gets into drugs. that is how dark she gets. maybe, that is how her past was in this series.
it actually is
In the comics, She gave away Daredevil's identity (Which made it's way to Kingpin) for drugs right?
@@tTaseric wtf. comics are just ridiculous. can't believe all that happens lol
I mean…she did take a billy club to the heart to save Matt’s life.
It's not because they care about her morality it's because all they ever do is act self righteous towards people who murder, especially when they don't have to, then she goes and murders an unarmed wesley out of pure rage and gets a free pass? Kind of stupid.
Honestly it was so dumb for him to put the gun on the table.
Finally they mention this in season 3.
I wish they would have kept Wesley alive for another season! He and Fisk together were so great! Loved their interactions!
Netflix Marvel had a thing for killing their best characters for shock value, Luke Cage did the same thing
Do y'all think Karen will eventually tell matt about this? I mean, Matt knows something is off with her ever since she killed Wesley. Maybe in season 2 she'll tell him?
Johail Torres I think if Karen tells Matt about this, it'll make Matt feel guilty since he's also hiding something and then he might tell Karen that he's DareDevil.
MattTheHuman No, it will make Matt very angry.
Max Frankow How come?
MattTheHuman I don't think it will make him angry but Matt never wants to kill anyone. It will be interesting when Punisher joins in and kills people.
Rational Police True.
This is the moment I fell in love with her. Because in most scenes, the girl in this situation always hesitates and forces us to scream at the screen, “JUST SHOOT HIM!”
Karen, on the other hand, just
Gives a total “FUCK YOU” expression and does what we have all been waiting for since the beginning of time.
She doesn’t even let him finish. She doesn’t wait to see what happens next. She doesn’t let him say anymore that would let him get to her.
She shoots him once. And then again and again. She wasn’t going to risk him surviving and coming back for her.
She wanted him dead. And that’s exactly what she got.
1:49, I like how he looks at his shoulder and back at her as if to say, "wow you actually did it!"
This sure came back strong in season 3
Whose here after Daredevil Season 3?
*SPOILERS*
After the Episode 10 flashback, guess she wasn't lying about it being the first time she shot someone either haha
leonthesleepy who did she shoot
@@distortion1222 the guy beating up her brother
Distortion Her boyfriend.
This is the same actor who got shanked by John Wick in the bathroom of the club
Love that they dealt with this in Season 3! The fact she is still struggling with this is so human
Wesley was pretty smart, but boy did he misjudge Karen. He didn't think she'd have the spine.
Me the first time I saw this scene: Oh great, this iss going to be just like the walking dead, and it's going to take her a whole fucking episode just to pull the trig-
Show: BANG BANG BANG
Me: I'm... I'm sorry Daredevil for comparing you to that shit show...
Wesker10000 yes it was a great show until s3 from s4 it became too repetitive like negan threatening Carl twice or thrice .moreover the main characters r saved at the last moment like shiva saving Carl and Jerry saving the king.anyway still one of my favorites
Kinda stupid he left a loaded gun on the table lol
WorstCriticEver it was a statement of power and was meant to be intimidating (enough so that she wouldn’t attempt to reach for it ) but yes was ideal but this guy must love poker
The Wesley actor can play a great scarecrow in DC comics
I absolutely LOVED Wesley's character and Toby Leonard Moore's performance was sublime but this plot twist takes the cake. I couldn't believe it. It was a great moment in the series. This is my favorite moment in season 1, along with Wilson Fisk and Daradevil saying "take your shot" to each other, I fucking lost it there.
I really hated this part. The show was a 10/10 till this very moment. This felt WAAAAYY too out of character for Wesley. Come on, he went from a badass assistant to a Bollywood villain. Putting a gun so close to someone not even tied up ? Fuck what the writers were thinking at this moment.
***** It was a form of intimidation.
Putting hope right infront of your eyes while there seems to be none.
Also Wesley is overconfident.. But that was clear from the get-go.
+RB Gamer He understimated her, everybody commits mistakes, you know.
00lifeisforliving00 It didn't fit his character profile. I'm sorry, but the scriptwriter either trolled us or he was high while writing this part.
Wesley underestimated Karen and was thrown off track by Vanessa being hospitalization and Kingpins sorrow. Even bad guys act irrationally due to their emotions. Wesley should've took one dude from Kingpin security to be backup. But again Wesley got emotional.
+Renaldy Calixte Anyone who is not tied and with half a brain would know to reach for a gun that is placed at arm's reach. Wesley, a smartass, would know that. Wesley is the kind of guy who would have left a rigged gun. Something that would backfire and woulda blown Karen's face off. Fuck the scriptwriters.
Hands down one of the best moments of the series. Karen is badass
ALSO, HER ACTING IN THIS SCENE IS LIKE 👌👌👌
Wesley’s fantasy:
Wesley: the gun isn’t loaded……..so why don’t you just give me it back.
Karen: if it’s not loaded why do you want it back?
Wesley:……..well, that gun was a gift from my father before he died.
Karen: shit! Sorry. Here you go.
*hands the gun back to Wesley*
Anyone else coming back after season 3?
in some ways, I think this was sort of intentional he left himself somewhat vulnerable, Wesley wanted a way out, He expressed his distaste of the environment he was surrounded with, and also questioned the stability of his employer.
Fisk is a social Darwinist, a megalomaniacal narcissist, and an altogether evil man. Yet, seeing him standing there listening to the phone ring is among the most heart-wrenching moments on this show. Few performances can pull off that kind of dissonance.
And this is why Daredevil and Jessica Jones made it to 3rd seasons. Super dark, complex and has several decent actors. Luke Cage and Iron Fist didn't have enough of those qualities. Watching Deborah Ann Woll in this scene and many more is what sold me on her acting skills. She made me completely forget that I'm looking at hot vampire Jessica from Trueblood. Also Vincent D'Onofrio is fantastic as Kingpin.
The only reason Daredevil and Jessica Jones made to 3rd season is because both had extraordinary first seasons. LC and IF due to their disappointing 1st season lost most of the viewers in 2nd season. Daredevil maintained quality throughout but JJ s2 was one of the worst things in Netflix mcu. I guess JJ will face the viewership problem hard in s3.
However I thought Luke Cage s2 was very much complex, dark and full of stakes and everyone (Bushmaster, Shades, Mariah Dillard, Luke's dad) acted the hell out to sell their characters. Shame it didn't get picked up after that cliffhanger ending. IF improved in s2 but not in a huge way. However, Alice Eve did great as Typhoid Mary. I guess she will be in Daredevil s4
Who's here from Season 3?
The fact that this comes back full circle in Season 3 is just amazing
“Do you really think that I’d put a loaded gun on the table where you can reach it?”
Congratulations, you just set yourself up.
God, this scene was amazing