Vinnie Vincent's songwriting IS awesome, his lead guitarwork needs to stay melodic, clever and memorable but his demonic, sickening, selfish and self-centered behavior caused Gene and Paul too many headaches, heartaches and hurting! Sir Paul Stanley is very wise to keep his distance from an evil man like Vinnie! 👿
@@PrayWithUsNow not really- it was after taxes he was a hired gun, and it was 1982-- what ever royalties he got would be in addition to that. Hired guns don't really get a large base pay especially at the time he wasn't a big name- he became one in Kiss. Where he got screwed was in the royalty payments
@@markusaurelius777 Tell me why Vinnie is not a lonely person, he was hidden from the public for 20 years, he is smiling like a maniac because he is so scared, tell me why he is not a lonely person.
Im glad to see that vinnie is such a humble guy . I used to not like vinnie but he's become such a humble spirited man and I have much respect for the brother . god bless vinnie
I totally agree. I can’t believe how many gullible people out there don’t see through Vinnie’s B.S. He has rocked the ship & tried suing KISS so many times, i’m shocked Gene even did this tbh. There is zero chance of Vinnie & Gene writing music together again. I’m reading some of these comments on here & some people saying you can feel the chemistry yadda,yadda lol 😂 No doubt about it when Gene left the stage after this he had to have been thinking to himself Vinnie is fu€ked in the head. A couple of Vinnie’s comments to Gene were very creepy imo. Vinnie can’t even play guitar anymore, did people not notice how he was stalling big time when Gene would say many times ok so what do you want to play Vinnie?? … & then Vinnie would change the subject & say something totally off the wall to change the subject until Gene had to basically think of something as to why he had to get going lol, Gene is like um … i got to babysit my friends uncle Harry’s gold fish lol, see ya Vinnie, hope to not run into you again ya weirdo lol
@@teresaslone771 Gene sold his soul and gave up the quality of his craft to keep shoveling out the same shit over and over again. Just cause he has more money and is more famous than us doesnt mean we have to respect him or don't have the right to criticize him.
This was awkward to watch. Vinnie keeps throwing himself at Gene thinking something more will come of them getting together , and Gene , while polite , keeps his distance till finally leaving him onstage alone.
You're reading TOO much into it which is exactly what Gene desires. The more drama that they create the more relevant that KISS becomes. It's about constantly maintaining their position in R&R. That's why they keep making money when almost every other band from their hayday are gone and forgotten.
Sunny S I met him and “she” said her name was Vanissa. And Vinnie was out. This was in Nashville in 93. I was like ok????? But what’s all this Kiss stuff. So I knew it was him.
My friend Chris went to this. He said that he kept requesting songs that could be played on an acoustic guitar. Vinnie would say " I remember that one", and then he wouldn't play anything.
I've just decided to ignore all the shit I've read about Vinnie Vincent being a big shot and trying to own KISS! This was so awesome and entertaining and Vinnie comes across as a nice bloke (if he could get a word in edgeways Gene!!!) and actually does remind me a lot of Ace Frehley in his personality. Great video!
Have you watched Decibel Geek on youtube? He made 6 specials of Vinnie Vincent where he digs into his life, interviews people who have dealt with him. Let me tell you, almost all of them have some fked up shit to say about him. One of them being that he's a thief, a liar, and manipulator who has very strange behaviours, including paranoid behaviour. One guy who worked at Kiss conventions in the mid 90s dealt with Vinnie. One day Vinnie's like hey do you wanna buy a guitar that I played during the Kiss lick it up tour? The guy being a fan he's like damn that'd be awesome. Vinnie was selling it 2,000 dollars, the guy didn't have all the money so he put a down payment on it. Vinnie then asked him if he could still use the guitar for Kiss conventions still and that he'd give it to him after that's done. Well, that didn't happen, Vinnie took off with the guitar, which was a cheap mass produced model, not the guitar he played on LIP tour. There's a bunch of other weird shit during that time, like performing on stage without plugging in his guitar and not playing solos. Another guy who worked with Vinnie on the guitars from hell project had a lot of shit to say about Vinnie. Claimed that Vinnie stole from him, and was giving him checks that would bounce.
I feel sorry for the folks that paid a lot of money to see any of these vault shows. I’ve seen Cub Scout shows that had better production. Gene doesn’t care about quality apparently, he just wants the money. Felt bad for Vinnie, he just wanted to spend some time with Gene, and it was pretty obvious that Gene did not. Vinnie was just a means to an end for Gene, a paycheck. I at least hope Vinnie got paid well, but most likely did not.
It's about time to heal!! Good going gene and vinnie it's nice to see you guy's together again.. how much time do you guy"s have left on this earth? So heal each other.
Vinnie just comes off as extremely likable to me for whatever reason. He just seems humble and cool. And happy to just be appreciated for the music he's made.
That’s what he wants people to believe when they’re watching him ,but to most accounts almost every one he deals with personally says that he’s bat shit crazy and self defeating.
This is more evidence that Paul had issues with Vinnie. One wonders how awesome it would have been if Vinnie had stuck around longer in Kiss because Vinnie can write songs and play without being a fake Ace clone like Tommy. It seems anyone who cramps Pauls alpha male control on the band is shown the door, there is a long history of this. Look what happened to Ace when he had the best solo album. That sealed his fate in the band. Vinnie's biggest problem was his talent when he was with Kiss.
Met Vinnie & Dana Strum at a Vinnie Vincent Invasion record store meet & greet in Detroit. Vinnie & Dana we’re both awesome! Very focused musical talent.
According to Mark Slaughter (during an interview on Eddie Trunk), what killed VVI was one night, Vinnie asked Mark how he felt about Dana, and said he was going to sack him. Mark took sides with Dana, then the record company sided with them over Vinnie and the rest is history.
But unlike Vinnie, Mark is talented, driven & focused Mark is still writing & releasing new music & touring. Between the two of them Mark is the true rock star ☄🔥 while Vinnie is still "Burning Bridges" "Slaughter" Rocks!!🎸
Judezki92 YEP. I noticed that also. He wanted nothing to do with playing together whether it was that day or future. They didn't manage to play one song. This clearly Gene out for money again.
I am absolutely delighted to see what was once such a cute femboy...still being a fairly cute femboy - but like, in a more grandmotherly type of way. 10/10 one of the best femboys in rock and roll.
The whole time I'm like "Shut up and play something instead of tinkering on the strings". Vinnie was trying to be sincere... All Gene could say was "Calm down". I dunno... I feel like Vinnie was ready to make it a special moment and Gene wasn't.
yes, completely. But the important thing..it got them talking. talking about writing songs. talking about writing songs, very often leads to actually writing songs. I hope this aspect of their history repeats itself. the world is overdue a GREAT KISS album such as that is.
Two talented people that should have written together for a decade or more.. When the Gene, Paul, Eric & Vinnie lineup faltered after 2 years the fans were denied a killer second run of KISS..It would have been much bigger right through the 80's had Vinnie stayed... A shame...
I AM IN AWE !!! THIS IS SO AWESOME SEEING GENE AND VINNY UP ON THE SAME STAGE TOGATHER EVEN BETTER THEN THE GOOD OLD DAYS !! THIS IS A BLESSING BUT TOO BAD THEY NEVER PLAYED A FULL SONG TOGATHER I GUESS THEY WERE JUST HAPPY TO SEE EACH OTHER AGAIN AND WANTED TO HAVE A GOOD TIME TOGATHER ANYWAY IT STILL WAS MAGIC !!!!!
I saw the creatures of the night tour, vinnie ripped his pants. It was great! He was a great soloist. I loved the Egyptian makeup. Wish the new guys had their own characters
This was such a waste. Fans have been looking so forward to this. And so was vinnie. He came out there just to sit up there and have gene take off. Any time vinnie would bring up his time in kiss, or even hint about wanting to play on stuff, gene would change the subject and derail it all. I feel bad for the vinnie and for the fans who thought they would actually see them play together.
i hope VV doesnt get too upset about the way Gene treated him. VV seems very sensitive mentally and all he is trying to do is heal with positive energy. Hanging out with $Bags wasnt a very good idea. Gene muttered some subtle yet cruel comments towards VV during this session.
I guess we still dont understand what is happening here. Vinnie is on the vault. Gene is there to deliver the vaults . Gene does not, nor wants to rekindle anything. I guess vinnie gets a vault. DOnt know why we think any thing has cnhanged.
My buddy says he plays.So I ask him to swing over and bring his guitar so we can jam. So he does. Then he sits there like that and talks and occasionally plucks a note or chord but never plays anything even as I entice him. Because im lousy and if he plays I want to learn from him. But he nonchalantly doesn't play anything. This is exactly what this reminds me of. I dont think my buddy can play.
I love how when Vinnie was talking about gene trying to get in touch with him and he mentions saying "i love you" to which gene says "I said that?". I feel like this is just gene just using "jokes" to be an asshole. That's honestly kinda mean.
So awkward... Gene doesn't want to be there with Vinnie. Just to invite him so he can try to sell more $2000 Vault nonsense. Then Vinnie gets clingy and you think this just too painful to watch.
I can't figure out why Gene would even be with Vinnie @ any event, & it goes the same with Vinnie? Why they would Perform together, after years of saying garbage about each other for the last few decades?
Gene is a forgiving guy who let's bygones be bygones and holds no grudges. Say what you will of him but those are qualities of a classy, big hearted man. Vinnie was not perfect but who is and its nice to see them together grown up.
Gene definitely had an angle. His "jokes" to vinnie were honestly pretty mean. "I don't miss you, haha" "I'd never say I love you, haha". Granted, Vinnie was gushing to the point that it may have made him uncomfortable, but still.
too bad eddie trunk, and the KISS expo beat him to it. Vinnie announced this appearance 3 months ago. Vinnie chose when and how he came back out. Gene has had Ace, Peter, and now Vinnie appear at one of his Vault appearances. Paul is busy doing other things.. im hoping maybe some new music is going to be afoot...gene and ace are touring together in australia right now. separate bands but on the same bill.
I know it will never happen while KISS is still around, but I'm with Vinnie here: they SHOULD write and record an album without question. Vinnnie/Gene OWNED the creatures album from start to finish, and Revenge was bang-on as well. Those songs on creatures SCREAMED...
@@wadestrickel7068Vinnie may have co-wrote most of the songs on LickItUp but Pauls voice, gyirar playing & the othee members made that album what it is and raking off the make-up & the 2 videos helped with the sales & popularity BUT the tour had low attendance nymbers averagu g betqeen 5 - 6,000 a night. There biggest gigs ever were in Brazil but other then that 'KISS" was at a low point in there career and it would be having a new guitar player Mark St.John on there platinum selling "ANIMALIZE" record that upped their game along with more tasteful guitar playing & solos from a master class S I T. guitar shredder ~M.S.J. ~R.I.P.~
shut_The Fuck_up here is my come back comment to you !!!!! Well thank you fo r Brining my DISABILITY to m y ATTENTION By me, I Already Know I Was Born With a DISABILITY although I Do Quite well living with my condition BUT thank you for reminding me of my misfortune, but Being born DEVELOPTMENTALLY DISABLED CAN BE A BLESSING also COS PPL BORN WITH SUCH DISABILITIES ACHIEVE GREAT THINGS AND be VERY talented so i guess i can consider myself fortunite and blessed cos i am not such an ignorant piece of shit like such as yourself !!!! again thank you for such a positive and thoughtful kind comment using the imfamous [ R ] WORD its nice to see there are still such ignorant uneducated ass wipes out there that still exist.thank you for your kind words!!! the only one I see as being a true IDIOT IS YOU !!!!! DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE A HABIT OF SHOVING YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH??!! SURE SEEMS LIKE IT ,GROW THE FUCK UP AND GET EDUCATED ON THE SUBJECT OF DISABiLITIE'S AND LEARN WHAT [ RETARDED ] REALLY MEANS!!!!! AND HERE IS A HINT IT DOESNT MEAN ONE IS AN IDIOT EITHER !!! GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU IMBECILE !!!!
Wow.... that was awkward, Vinnie seems sincere, Gene could have cared less, Did they even sing? After paying for this? Vinnie seems like he's trying to lock Gene down for a reunion. Paul will not stand for that.
No matter what people say, Vinnie seems to be such a nice, caring sweet person. Imaging being at the top and then going recluse for like 30 years. How lonley would one feel, and long for those better days. We probably all have them, nostalgia, even if we weren't rock stars like he was. Sad really. I need to stop living in the past, while my future passes me by. (boo hoo)
According to Robert flieschman, vinnie was wearing a bullet proof vest during these get togethers. Watch his chest when he first appears. You can see it.
The big problem with this was that every time gene prompts Vinnie with a song Vinnie can’t remember how to play it, so gene just knows it’s a train wreck and wants to get off stage, especially when Vinnie keeps asking to play together again, how could he expect that to happen when he can’t even come prepared to play some of the only songs they wrote together 30 years ago?!
Ya I totally agree, Vinnie like you said can’t even take the time to learn the songs again & it's almost like he just thinks whom ever he’s playing with will carry his load, I’m embarrassed for him it’s that bad.
Poor Vinnie, every time I watch this every few years and every time i feel even worse for Vinnie grasping at straws trying to keep a relationship with Gene.
oatmeal813. Wish They Did Fits Like A Glove- Not For The Innocent- Young And Wasted... I Was Front Seats, Front Row Photographer A Berkley High School Auditorium - Lick It Up. I know Things. AND... WOW- What A Show. ECT. THANK YOU. Bob.
.. Saw - Was Front Row Photographer At Berkeley High Auditorium- Lick It Up. Was sapose To be San Francisco Civic Center.. Going There, @ 5 in The Morning.. radio Said All at wunts... " Berkley". Bam !!- Were There . Parked behind The Vadanberg Bus... With MY.. KISSFAN License Plate. Vinnie SPENT The Guitars.. WOW. And, So on. Thank You ALL - Best To You And Yours. Bob.
I remember going in the mid-90's to convention in The Netherlands where Vinnie would be appearing. I went out of curiousity with a friend, who was a KISS-fan. It was the most bizarre thing I've seen. The crowd were these though-guy KISS-fans, and suddenly Vinnie appears on stage. I immediately noticed that there was something "different "about thim. And I wasn't the only one. There was also a tribute-band there, with whom he played a few songs with. But no solos, I don;t think his guitar was even plugged in. Very strange behaviour.
That's because Vinnie's main attribute was his speed picking and sweeps. He lacked general melodic discipline. He's in his 60s and has been out of it long enough that his speed chops are gone. That was confirmed in the leaked footage of his recent performance. That solo he played was mediocre at best.
Everyone is bashing Gene for not letting VInnie talk or play. I think the problem is, Vinnie can't play anymore. Knows some little riffs and whatnot, but nothing real. I don't think they could have played together, even if Gene shut up for a minute :p Also, Gene wanted a fist bump, not to hold hands!
I met this lineup in Metairie Louisiana when I was 7 at a record store the day of their concert. I remember grabbing destroyer and they signed it and asked me to get the new album. I asked them where Ace was, lol.
Gene is moving his 'Kiss Army' to Guyana. Clearing out a jungle section for what will be known as...'Genestown'. 'people play games friend, they lie, they lie...'
@@tomheaney2135Gene didn't need Vinnie 'LoL' in fact Gene is busy all the time. If anything this gave Vinnie the much needed publicity and Vinnie couldn't even make the best of it for all those there and jam with Gene ..what a patheric dunce cap.
This reminds me of when somebody pulls out a guitar at a party and tells me to play something and I only know how to play the intro to every song
Or the solo!
Yeah and at home im like jeeeez i could have played this or that song
I had never heard Vinnie laughing in a long time, it’s so sweet
Vinnie: Don't you miss me?
Gene: No!
Hahahahahahaha....
)))
I think everyone knew what he would answer
It was a very honest answer lol
Gene was just here to steal Vin's song ideas, and then never pay him…
@@IgnatiyShuChannel Obviously, because of the stuff Vinnie did that sort of embarrassed the band. According to Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley.
Gene is funny . He loves vinnie. He says “vinnie is really good, he knows his stuff.” He definitely respects Vinnies guitar playing.
Vinnie Vincent's songwriting IS awesome, his lead guitarwork needs to stay melodic, clever and memorable but his demonic, sickening, selfish and self-centered behavior caused Gene and Paul too many headaches, heartaches and hurting! Sir Paul Stanley is very wise to keep his distance from an evil man like Vinnie! 👿
Gene took horrible advantage of Vinnie, paying the man $550 per week while he had a wife and twins living with her parents driving a crappy car
@@princescottygustafski5331 Im just getting into KISS history, can you elaborate what Vinnie has done?
@@princescottygustafski5331 "Sir"
@@PrayWithUsNow not really- it was after taxes he was a hired gun, and it was 1982-- what ever royalties he got would be in addition to that. Hired guns don't really get a large base pay especially at the time he wasn't a big name- he became one in Kiss. Where he got screwed was in the royalty payments
Poor Vinnie. He seems like a lonely person. I would have loved to be here.
You're projecting your own emotions onto him.
@@Danimal77You can really tell that Vinnie feels that way, it's not a projection.
@@siberiaenfhesmbeing parasocial as hell
@@siberiaenfhesm Get off the crack pipe
@@markusaurelius777 Tell me why Vinnie is not a lonely person, he was hidden from the public for 20 years, he is smiling like a maniac because he is so scared, tell me why he is not a lonely person.
What the F just happened here? Come and watch Vinnies grandma tune a guitar with Gene Simmons. Hilarious
Sound guys...
Consistently fucking things up in the past and continuing to fuck things up in the future too
Vinnie humbled by his life-trials. Hope to see him play again full band.
I read that he had a listening party for a new Vinny Vincent record, I definitely want to hear it. I liked the first two records.
Im glad to see that vinnie is such a humble guy . I used to not like vinnie but he's become such a humble spirited man and I have much respect for the brother . god bless vinnie
Sorry, but it’s easy to be humble when you are washed up & begging for work
Beware. That's Vinnie's MO. He has "humbled" himself and then set the bridge on fire all over again, repeatedly.
I totally agree. I can’t believe how many gullible people out there don’t see through Vinnie’s B.S. He has rocked the ship & tried suing KISS so many times, i’m shocked Gene even did this tbh. There is zero chance of Vinnie & Gene writing music together again. I’m reading some of these comments on here & some people saying you can feel the chemistry yadda,yadda lol 😂 No doubt about it when Gene left the stage after this he had to have been thinking to himself Vinnie is fu€ked in the head. A couple of Vinnie’s comments to Gene were very creepy imo. Vinnie can’t even play guitar anymore, did people not notice how he was stalling big time when Gene would say many times ok so what do you want to play Vinnie?? … & then Vinnie would change the subject & say something totally off the wall to change the subject until Gene had to basically think of something as to why he had to get going lol, Gene is like um … i got to babysit my friends uncle Harry’s gold fish lol, see ya Vinnie, hope to not run into you again ya weirdo lol
@@sudsysutherland359I read somewhere that Gene said that Vinnie had sued Kiss 14 times and lost every time. Kiss definitely has great legal counsel.
Thank Gene for inviting Vinnie! Vinnie was one of Kiss premiere solo greats!
Beautiful. I wish they would record an entire album of classic rock songs on acoustic guitars. Call it "Gene & Vinnie".
Isn’t that what this is
Gene is more interested in selling memories rather than making new ones.
he will die this year
Gene has conquered the world... and you?Thats what I thought pencil dick
Teresa Slone I have a small dick
New memories yes, with Vinnie,,no
@@teresaslone771 Gene sold his soul and gave up the quality of his craft to keep shoveling out the same shit over and over again. Just cause he has more money and is more famous than us doesnt mean we have to respect him or don't have the right to criticize him.
Vinnie seems so cool.
Wow!!! This is fantastic!!! I'm watching it now!!! God bless Vinnie and Gene!! Thanks so much for sharing!!!
Are you joking?-
This was awkward to watch. Vinnie keeps throwing himself at Gene thinking something more will come of them getting together , and Gene , while polite , keeps his distance till finally leaving him onstage alone.
kissed61 it's very sad.. Especially how you put it.
You're reading TOO much into it which is exactly what Gene desires. The more drama that they create the more relevant that KISS becomes. It's about constantly maintaining their position in R&R. That's why they keep making money when almost every other band from their hayday are gone and forgotten.
kissed61 cringe. Especially when you know what Paul Stanley explained about Vinnie getting kicked out if Kiss
@@riheg What did Paul explain about it ?
Gene has a secret boner ...that's why he's being a prick towards Vivian lol
I grew up on Long Island thru the 80s. Vinnie looks like all my friends moms lol I still and always will love VV tho!
Too funny lol
Sunny S I met him and “she” said her name was Vanissa. And Vinnie was out. This was in Nashville in 93. I was like ok????? But what’s all this Kiss stuff. So I knew it was him.
Philip Reed Wallace Hahaha too funny. Yeah whats up with him??!! Guess it IS 2018 lol
I live on L.I and this is true
@@philipreedwallace I don’t believe that considering he still promotes as Vinnie
My friend Chris went to this. He said that he kept requesting songs that could be played on an acoustic guitar. Vinnie would say " I remember that one", and then he wouldn't play anything.
How much did it cost???
I think Gene used to rock ‘n’ roll all night and party every day. Now he’s lucky if he sleeps all night and has a bowel movement every day
I've just decided to ignore all the shit I've read about Vinnie Vincent being a big shot and trying to own KISS! This was so awesome and entertaining and Vinnie comes across as a nice bloke (if he could get a word in edgeways Gene!!!) and actually does remind me a lot of Ace Frehley in his personality. Great video!
Have you watched Decibel Geek on youtube? He made 6 specials of Vinnie Vincent where he digs into his life, interviews people who have dealt with him. Let me tell you, almost all of them have some fked up shit to say about him. One of them being that he's a thief, a liar, and manipulator who has very strange behaviours, including paranoid behaviour.
One guy who worked at Kiss conventions in the mid 90s dealt with Vinnie. One day Vinnie's like hey do you wanna buy a guitar that I played during the Kiss lick it up tour? The guy being a fan he's like damn that'd be awesome.
Vinnie was selling it 2,000 dollars, the guy didn't have all the money so he put a down payment on it. Vinnie then asked him if he could still use the guitar for Kiss conventions still and that he'd give it to him after that's done. Well, that didn't happen, Vinnie took off with the guitar, which was a cheap mass produced model, not the guitar he played on LIP tour. There's a bunch of other weird shit during that time, like performing on stage without plugging in his guitar and not playing solos.
Another guy who worked with Vinnie on the guitars from hell project had a lot of shit to say about Vinnie. Claimed that Vinnie stole from him, and was giving him checks that would bounce.
Who ever is running this channel is deleting comments lol
Exactly
Honestly even if Gene is just milking it to sell the Vault, It makes me feel good just to see Vinnie with a smile from ear to ear.
I feel sorry for the folks that paid a lot of money to see any of these vault shows. I’ve seen Cub Scout shows that had better production. Gene doesn’t care about quality apparently, he just wants the money. Felt bad for Vinnie, he just wanted to spend some time with Gene, and it was pretty obvious that Gene did not. Vinnie was just a means to an end for Gene, a paycheck. I at least hope Vinnie got paid well, but most likely did not.
WTF the fans want to hear both tunes and stories. Vinnie is providing no music. WTF is up with him?
It's about time to heal!! Good going gene and vinnie it's nice to see you guy's together again.. how much time do you guy"s have left on this earth? So heal each other.
this is a good thing. it got them talking. about music. about writing great songs together. this can only lead to something good.
Vinnie Vincent playing first position chords strumming and acoustic- crazy!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that he's just leaning on the guitar and holding the G chord. Does that guy still play the guitar at all?
@@KarelChmelirbeing a guitarist isn’t an acrobatic exercise. All those sweeps and shredding doesn’t sound good on an acoustic.
@@KarelChmelirI'm starting to wonder if it's actually him?? I mean it's like he never played at all...
He seemed very nervous to play. Maybe he didn’t play all those years after VVI went tits up?
I sat there wating for Vinnie to shred a little.
Gene is probably my favorite KISS member after Paul, Peter, Ace, Vinnie, St. John, Tommy, the 2 Erics, Bill Aucoin, Neil Bogart and all the roadies
hahahahaha
😂
Ace! Ace is the favorite. Ace is the only one as far as I'm concerned.
And Bruce?
@@agoravai4547 🤟
Vinnie just comes off as extremely likable to me for whatever reason. He just seems humble and cool. And happy to just be appreciated for the music he's made.
comes off totally disingenuous to me
He’s humble because he can’t play guitar anymore
That’s what he wants people to believe when they’re watching him ,but to most accounts almost every one he deals with personally says that he’s bat shit crazy and self defeating.
Beware. Vinnie has burned the same bridges over and over, after appearing humbled.
Vinnie is a female.
Wake me up when these two actually PLAY A SONG.
You’ll be sleeping forever because it’s NEVER gonna happen. Fucking glad to because they suck!
@@Killerklownsfromouterspace then why watch
@@andycanter6322 I didn’t. I just thought I’d stop by and troll you Kiss lovin fucks.
@@Killerklownsfromouterspace why so mad?
I would actually pay to see Vinnie play with Kiss during the final tour in a smart pant and jacket set.
John C too funny 😂.
Better a mini skirt...whew
Wow ... just wow! I'm glad Vinnie is making the rounds! Amazing seeing him with Gene!
"When was the last time you saw gene?"
"1804"
The fact that it was so smooth made me laugh more then I probably should have
awesome. Thanks for the upload Mike. It's appreciated.
This is more evidence that Paul had issues with Vinnie. One wonders how awesome it would have been if Vinnie had stuck around longer in Kiss because Vinnie can write songs and play without being a fake Ace clone like Tommy. It seems anyone who cramps Pauls alpha male control on the band is shown the door, there is a long history of this. Look what happened to Ace when he had the best solo album. That sealed his fate in the band. Vinnie's biggest problem was his talent when he was with Kiss.
leokimvideo aces solo album wasn't the best sounding
it was however, the best.. SELLING.. and had the ONLY hit single.
Paul had issues with Vinnie because he wanted to be the only gay in the band and with Vinnie's ariving he got compitition.
Heinrich Böhman proof
smackythefrog23 so
What’s with all the negative comments? Just be glad these two are friends again and are having a good time for God’s sake! You all are too serious
Met Vinnie & Dana Strum at a Vinnie Vincent Invasion record store meet & greet in Detroit.
Vinnie & Dana we’re both awesome!
Very focused musical talent.
According to Mark Slaughter (during an interview on Eddie Trunk), what killed VVI was one night, Vinnie asked Mark how he felt about Dana, and said he was going to sack him. Mark took sides with Dana, then the record company sided with them over Vinnie and the rest is history.
But unlike Vinnie, Mark is talented, driven & focused Mark is still writing & releasing new music & touring.
Between the two of them Mark is the true rock star ☄🔥
while Vinnie is still "Burning Bridges"
"Slaughter" Rocks!!🎸
Everytime Vinnie says "let's play together" or something like that, Gene just totally ignores him..
Judezki92 YEP. I noticed that also. He wanted nothing to do with playing together whether it was that day or future. They didn't manage to play one song. This clearly Gene out for money again.
Judezki92 , that stuck out more to me than anything else. I found myself feeling sorry for VV, he was really trying but Gene wasn't having it.
Judezki92 Gene probably thinks 'why work for money when you can get it for nothing...these peons should pay $2,000 just to back in my presence'
Gene already has a band called KISS that Vinnie was in for 2 years forty years ago
I'm seeing Gene trying to get him to play and Vinnie just won't do it
I am absolutely delighted to see what was once such a cute femboy...still being a fairly cute femboy - but like, in a more grandmotherly type of way. 10/10 one of the best femboys in rock and roll.
Vinnie is Gene’s clingy ex who just wants him back
I don't think I've ever cringed for 22 minutes straight before this.
The whole time I'm like "Shut up and play something instead of tinkering on the strings". Vinnie was trying to be sincere... All Gene could say was "Calm down". I dunno... I feel like Vinnie was ready to make it a special moment and Gene wasn't.
planktonau correct 100%
I'm glad someone caught & commented on the "Bitch" and the, "You know how she gets!" Brilliant post!
Eric can be the Owl - LMAO!
yes, completely. But the important thing..it got them talking. talking about writing songs. talking about writing songs, very often leads to actually writing songs. I hope this aspect of their history repeats itself. the world is overdue a GREAT KISS album such as that is.
Nice to see Vinnie and Gene being civil.
More like bad blood they weren't very friendly
Money makes it happen.
watching these two reminds me of how these guys r true mugicians love it!!!!
Two talented people that should have written together for a decade or more.. When the Gene, Paul, Eric & Vinnie lineup faltered after 2 years the fans were denied a killer second run of KISS..It would have been much bigger right through the 80's had Vinnie stayed... A shame...
Mark DP yep..u r right sir.
Why’s my Aunt Getrude playing with Gene Simmons? I had no idea she knew how to play 3 chords..crazy.
I AM IN AWE !!! THIS IS SO AWESOME SEEING GENE AND VINNY UP ON THE SAME STAGE TOGATHER EVEN BETTER THEN THE GOOD OLD DAYS !! THIS IS A BLESSING BUT TOO BAD THEY NEVER PLAYED A FULL SONG TOGATHER I GUESS THEY WERE JUST HAPPY TO SEE EACH OTHER AGAIN AND WANTED TO HAVE A GOOD TIME TOGATHER ANYWAY IT STILL WAS MAGIC !!!!!
Very cool, Mike! Thanks for sharing! Much love to Keith Valcourt for keeping things happening! We miss ya, brother!
I saw the creatures of the night tour, vinnie ripped his pants. It was great! He was a great soloist. I loved the Egyptian makeup. Wish the new guys had their own characters
His makeup sucked
Me and my guitarist after quarantine playing together
This was such a waste. Fans have been looking so forward to this. And so was vinnie. He came out there just to sit up there and have gene take off. Any time vinnie would bring up his time in kiss, or even hint about wanting to play on stuff, gene would change the subject and derail it all. I feel bad for the vinnie and for the fans who thought they would actually see them play together.
couldnt agree more! gene just used vv as a pawn to get die hard fans to buy the vault at nashville. $$$
shinnox I agree mate. Vinne was a guest of him and he was terrible.
i hope VV doesnt get too upset about the way Gene treated him. VV seems very sensitive mentally and all he is trying to do is heal with positive energy. Hanging out with $Bags wasnt a very good idea. Gene muttered some subtle yet cruel comments towards VV during this session.
I guess we still dont understand what is happening here. Vinnie is on the vault. Gene is there to deliver the vaults . Gene does not, nor wants to rekindle anything. I guess vinnie gets a vault. DOnt know why we think any thing has cnhanged.
nick strapko something has changed
Vinnie is a nice guy and I feel like Gene as a place in his heart for Vinnie.
nice to see them together and they share a lot of good memories
I hope Vinnie does some dates on the End of The Road Tour cause he is AMAZING!
My buddy says he plays.So I ask him to swing over and bring his guitar so we can jam. So he does. Then he sits there like that and talks and occasionally plucks a note or chord but never plays anything even as I entice him. Because im lousy and if he plays I want to learn from him. But he nonchalantly doesn't play anything. This is exactly what this reminds me of. I dont think my buddy can play.
gotta admire genes hustle, dude hasnt stopped
I love how when Vinnie was talking about gene trying to get in touch with him and he mentions saying "i love you" to which gene says "I said that?". I feel like this is just gene just using "jokes" to be an asshole. That's honestly kinda mean.
So awkward... Gene doesn't want to be there with Vinnie. Just to invite him so he can try to sell more $2000 Vault nonsense.
Then Vinnie gets clingy and you think this just too painful to watch.
Vinnie blew has chance there....
Really clingy. Damn it was like watching an ex girlfriend trying too get the guy to say he still loves her.
This comment totally nails it.
Oh boy in 2017 Vinnie to Gene I still love you. XOXO 😘😘😘😘 Gene its 2021 let it happen there bigg papi huba huba. 🌹💐
Vinne Vincent is trying his best and Gene doesn't give him a chance to tell some fantastic stories. Don't understand Gene's ego.
HES AN ASSHOLE THATS WHY
I can't figure out why Gene would even be with Vinnie @ any event, & it goes the same with Vinnie? Why they would Perform together, after years of saying garbage about each other for the last few decades?
Devin Drew both need each other.
he's a merchant
Graeme Davin Hardly.
Gene is a forgiving guy who let's bygones be bygones and holds no grudges. Say what you will of him but those are qualities of a classy, big hearted man.
Vinnie was not perfect but who is and its nice to see them together grown up.
Mike Smith
Gene is a forgiving guy who let's bygones be bygones and holds no grudges.
And I just won the powerball first $500 million
Sure but his integrity has slipped since KISS began playing prerecorded vocal tracks at live shows lately.😆
Fkn funny
Gene definitely had an angle. His "jokes" to vinnie were honestly pretty mean. "I don't miss you, haha" "I'd never say I love you, haha". Granted, Vinnie was gushing to the point that it may have made him uncomfortable, but still.
Gene, Vinnie is there to help you sell the vault. You should play a kiss tune together. That is why you invited him.
gene only to milk money, does not care about music and uses his former bandmates to play the guitar for him.
Wrong - the Vault was already purchased. Gene invited Vinnie to help introduce back into the public.
too bad eddie trunk, and the KISS expo beat him to it. Vinnie announced this appearance 3 months ago. Vinnie chose when and how he came back out. Gene has had Ace, Peter, and now Vinnie appear at one of his Vault appearances. Paul is busy doing other things.. im hoping maybe some new music is going to be afoot...gene and ace are touring together in australia right now. separate bands but on the same bill.
I know it will never happen while KISS is still around, but I'm with Vinnie here: they SHOULD write and record an album without question. Vinnnie/Gene OWNED the creatures album from start to finish, and Revenge was bang-on as well. Those songs on creatures SCREAMED...
Not to mention "Lick It Up"!
Asides from vo-writibg 4 songs Vinnie had very little to do with "Crearures Of The Nite"
@@wadestrickel7068Vinnie may have co-wrote most of the songs on LickItUp but Pauls voice, gyirar playing & the othee members made that album what it is and raking off the make-up & the 2 videos helped with the sales & popularity BUT the tour had low attendance nymbers averagu g betqeen
5 - 6,000 a night. There biggest gigs ever were in Brazil but other then that 'KISS" was at a low point in there career and it would be having a new guitar player Mark St.John on there platinum selling "ANIMALIZE" record that upped their game along with more tasteful guitar playing & solos from a master class S I T. guitar shredder
~M.S.J. ~R.I.P.~
Real pro set-up, Gene. I can see you spared no expense--even using a fancy $3 power strip to complete your stage lighting.
THE LIGHTS ALREADY WAS THERE THEY BELONG TO THE CLUB NOT GENE UUUMMM HELLOOOO??!!
shut_The Fuck_up here is my come back comment to you !!!!!
Well thank you fo r Brining my DISABILITY to m y ATTENTION By me, I Already Know I Was Born With a DISABILITY although I Do Quite well living with my condition BUT thank you for reminding me of my misfortune, but Being born DEVELOPTMENTALLY DISABLED CAN BE A BLESSING also COS PPL BORN WITH SUCH DISABILITIES ACHIEVE GREAT THINGS AND be VERY talented so i guess i can consider myself fortunite and blessed cos i am not such an ignorant piece of shit like such as yourself !!!! again thank you for such a positive and thoughtful kind comment using the imfamous [ R ] WORD
its nice to see there are still such ignorant uneducated ass wipes out there that still exist.thank you for your kind words!!! the only one I see as being a true IDIOT IS YOU !!!!! DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE A HABIT OF SHOVING YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH??!! SURE SEEMS LIKE IT ,GROW THE FUCK UP AND GET EDUCATED ON THE SUBJECT OF DISABiLITIE'S AND LEARN WHAT [ RETARDED ] REALLY MEANS!!!!! AND HERE IS A HINT IT DOESNT MEAN ONE IS AN IDIOT EITHER !!! GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU IMBECILE !!!!
who the fuck are you ranting at, you imbecile?
@@gwynnthefam2864
Take it easy man. It's just 2 goofballs on stage that play R&R music nit Hillary selling nuclear materials to the Russians.
I bet Vinnie cried himself to sleep that night while hugging a Gene Simmons pillow from his KISS bedsheets, with his old KISS make-up on.
You cruel genital wart. Don’t know what kiss did to that poor man?
Gene is thinking the whole time "How can I get this chick back stage?"
Haha
Wow.... that was awkward, Vinnie seems sincere, Gene could have cared less, Did they even sing? After paying for this? Vinnie seems like he's trying to lock Gene down for a reunion. Paul will not stand for that.
Live in reality even Vinnie knows that wouldn't happen in a million years.
No matter what people say, Vinnie seems to be such a nice, caring sweet person. Imaging being at the top and then going recluse for like 30 years. How lonley would one feel, and long for those better days. We probably all have them, nostalgia, even if we weren't rock stars like he was. Sad really. I need to stop living in the past, while my future passes me by. (boo hoo)
Exactly
I watched this and Vinnie seems so lonely and starved for attention. . .Kind of sad really
On point
I agree with you😥😭 I will support vinnie Vincent
According to Robert flieschman, vinnie was wearing a bullet proof vest during these get togethers. Watch his chest when he first appears. You can see it.
Yeah.....Robert said that in my interview with him this past week.
ruclips.net/video/0tSQS1e1mmg/видео.html
You sure that’s not a bra?
It's so nice to see them together
Gracious of Gene to have this.
Gene seems to me he wants to get this over..
The big problem with this was that every time gene prompts Vinnie with a song Vinnie can’t remember how to play it, so gene just knows it’s a train wreck and wants to get off stage, especially when Vinnie keeps asking to play together again, how could he expect that to happen when he can’t even come prepared to play some of the only songs they wrote together 30 years ago?!
Ya I totally agree, Vinnie like you said can’t even take the time to learn the songs again & it's almost like he just thinks whom ever he’s playing with will carry his load, I’m embarrassed for him it’s that bad.
Yeah, sad
So what im getting was KISS was a battle of egos between paul and gene and everyone else that was in the band was pretty much collateral
Vinnie actually looks like he is having a great time hanging out with Gene.
God Vinny don't beg for it. This love affair still exists, but only in Vinnies mind.
You spelled Vinnie two different ways. You were right the second time.
And yours 😂
Damn what reality are we in where Gene plays better guitar than Vinnie??
A reality where Gene has not stopped playing since at least 1970 (53+ years), where as Vinnie hasn't played since the mid-late 90's.
Gene literally said I can’t do that vinnie you are adding fancy stuff that alone means vinnie plays better than gene
Poor Vinnie, every time I watch this every few years and every time i feel even worse for Vinnie grasping at straws trying to keep a relationship with Gene.
Don't know why people keep being so negative. I love them both 👌🖤
Probably because VV is a con artist who has ripped off many fans over the years.
Vinnie seems like a wonderful person. ☺
Loved when they actually played a song...........said no one ever.
oatmeal813. Wish They Did Fits Like A Glove- Not For The Innocent- Young And Wasted... I Was Front Seats, Front Row Photographer A Berkley High School Auditorium - Lick It Up. I know Things. AND... WOW- What A Show. ECT. THANK YOU. Bob.
.. Saw - Was Front Row Photographer At Berkeley High Auditorium- Lick It Up. Was sapose To be San Francisco Civic Center.. Going There, @ 5 in The Morning.. radio Said All at wunts... " Berkley". Bam !!- Were There . Parked behind The Vadanberg Bus... With MY.. KISSFAN License Plate. Vinnie SPENT The Guitars.. WOW. And, So on. Thank You ALL - Best To You And Yours. Bob.
Lol
@@robertkraft2689 are you telling the truth? or a bunch of lies? everyone is dying to know
How come Vinnie can't play any of his guitar parts during these stories and song clips Gene is sharing?
It’s nice that Vinny invited gene to sit in with him. Such a nice guy. The greatest guitarist to live. I think gene even paid to sit in with Vinny
i really want to meet vinnie, i hope he comes to england
Vinnie was trying his best and Gene missed a chance to be normal and tell fantastic stories of the past. He's fantastic on stage a fool off stage.
Now exactly was he trying his best? By laughing at Gene’s jokes & holding a guitar?
This is fun to see! All the gossip and bad vibes given to Vinnie by the press and Paul Stanley seems untrue here.
It was nice to see the two old Yentas getting along so well!
"I don't get high, so I remember."😛
But its been documented that Vinnie did lots of blow
Gene is being real, Vinnie is back in the 80s (fantasy world) Gene is the whole KISS show now!
I knew it Vinnie never plays he just shows up and sits there
Vinnie is a F***ING BASKET CASE. .... He makes Ace Frehley look like Beaver Cleaver.
Good to see them together and laughing together!
I remember going in the mid-90's to convention in The Netherlands where Vinnie would be appearing. I went out of curiousity with a friend, who was a KISS-fan. It was the most bizarre thing I've seen. The crowd were these though-guy KISS-fans, and suddenly Vinnie appears on stage. I immediately noticed that there was something "different "about thim. And I wasn't the only one. There was also a tribute-band there, with whom he played a few songs with. But no solos, I don;t think his guitar was even plugged in. Very strange behaviour.
That's because Vinnie's main attribute was his speed picking and sweeps. He lacked general melodic discipline.
He's in his 60s and has been out of it long enough that his speed chops are gone. That was confirmed in the leaked footage of his recent performance. That solo he played was mediocre at best.
My gosh how I'd love to hear a full version of "I Wanna Live" played at the end. Sounds amazing! And no, I can't quite buy the vault
this reminds of when I tried to learn to play the guitar many years ago .
Everyone is bashing Gene for not letting VInnie talk or play. I think the problem is, Vinnie can't play anymore. Knows some little riffs and whatnot, but nothing real. I don't think they could have played together, even if Gene shut up for a minute :p Also, Gene wanted a fist bump, not to hold hands!
Lol ...Ikr, Vivian was totally flirting with him 😆😆😆
Everything Gene does Vinnie finds hilarious....if Gene did shadow puppets Vinnie would lose it
“This guitar is terrible don’t ever let anyone play this thing” 😂
Thanks Vinnie for you contributions to Kiss!
Vinnie literally had me laugh/crying.
I met this lineup in Metairie Louisiana when I was 7 at a record store the day of their concert. I remember grabbing destroyer and they signed it and asked me to get the new album. I asked them where Ace was, lol.
Gene is moving his 'Kiss Army' to Guyana. Clearing out a jungle section for what will be known as...'Genestown'. 'people play games friend, they lie, they lie...'
... never... And I mean NEVER in a million years would I ever imagine Gene playing with Vinnie again
He was using him to help sell these shows!
If it will make Gene a dollar, he will sell his soul for it.
Gene is pretty cool
Dont expect paul to do any better😹
@@tomheaney2135Gene didn't need Vinnie 'LoL' in fact Gene is busy all the time. If anything this gave Vinnie the much needed publicity and Vinnie couldn't even make the best of it for all those there and jam with Gene ..what a patheric dunce cap.