We really need to see the autopsy report and Mandy's family should have looked into the case with private investigators if the police cannot be trusted. Money is another factor that we know little about.
Hes a well known guy. And people know him of his facade persona. Surely you won't take this brutally honest if the report says *He stab his wife his pet himself and his penis many times and both bled to death*
they are creating stories, they just do their job and if the police tells them it was a suicide using painkillers, they'll write that down, if a local says it, they'll write that down. It is a messy business but I don't think they could have done much better.
Mandy: "Guys... please *please* don't leave me, I just feel weird about him, please don't leave" Them: "Well Mandy, we feel the same way, but naaaaah, Harry wouldn't do anything, it's prolly just the weather"
@@nerdstop5025 "We'll return a little later because we might forget our jacket behind on our way to the Airport on one of the coldest nights of the year. Manage him till then, bye."
does anyone else find it odd that those "friends" came by their house heard Harry say "tonights a good night for a killing" and Amanda telling them to stay there, and then they go off and leave?
I think Harry saying that is definitely something to consider. The friends leaving not so much because I mean who wouldn't leave if they were told those things?
"Who wouldn't leave if they were told by an emotionally-intense man that tonight is a wonderful night for a killing?" I think a more important question is "What sort of 'friend' would *_leave a disabled woman_* in the presence of a man who is clearly at the end of his wits and has a vivid history of emotional volatility? When said disabled woman is begging for them to not leave?" They could have left. _And then _*_did literally anything else_*_ in addition._ Like, take Amanda with them, or called the police to do a wellness check later.
@@revisedvision yeah but if his behavior was enough to genuinely make them feel not safe, what does it say that they left this woman in a wheelchair alone with him? And especially after she insists they stay
@@deftrascal1626 I mean maybe the couple had a fight or flight response. and they didn't wanna have anything happen to them so they chose their lives over hers. not saying your wrong they should definitely be suspects. as they were the last ones to see them alive and then conveniently be the ones to call it in.
“If you look like a student and act like a student, you basically are one.” This is how I made money in my early 20’s, attending lectures for students and taking notes at universities I didn’t go to. Just act like you’re supposed to be there and nobody asks any questions
@@branchy1186 I would attend the lectures on behalf of students who either couldn't or didn't want to attend the classes. Some were party animals that wanted to sleep in, more still were wealthy exchange students who were there to buy a degree. Honestly, it's easy money if you have the skill for it, and you can get a free education, minus the diploma. It's pretty wild, but the answer to "how do I get into this prestigious university?" is simply "walk in the door and find a seat."
@@ionceateapinecone whaaaat lmao are you being for real? thats really a thing? youve never been caught? even suspected? you just decided one day to pop into a random school & the rest was history? lol
Went to Wikipedia to look at the whole case and saw a reference to you: “a video essay uploaded onto RUclips by Nexpo titled ‘A Creator’s Dive Into Turmoil’ at 26 minutes into the video even proposed a possibility that the scene may have been a murder...” Congrats on the recognition of your quality work, story telling and investigating you do
@@TheKennedyy I could easily go on Wikipedia and make a whole ass page about you right now, it's not that next level. I could also edit any page I wanted to and have you up there but I doubt it'd stay for long
"the legal system in scotland is frustrating" really landed with me tbh. I'm Scottish and a frustrating case was the jodi jones murder that happened near Edinburgh. The boyfriend got convicted for it where most of the evidence didn't even point to him and a lot of the argument was that he was into bands like maralyn manson. He was put in prison at 14 and is in his 30s now.
@@lisiastar8441 I meant it as a sarcy joke cause narrator pronounced it that way throughout... of course I didn't make that obvious enough man... (I'm a weegie btw)
One thing that hit me as strange was that when the friends visited, Amanda told them to stay, implying that she knew or felt something was wrong.She probably wasn't sure, but there was definitely something going on...
i was thinking thee same thing. horse probably told mandy what he was planning hence her pleading the friends to stay knowing that he wouldnt do it while they are there.
Well what didn't even occur to me until just now was that she had sclerosis and was in a wheelchair, so she couldn't actually do anything to stop it. She couldn't even step away to speak to their friends privately, Harry had literal complete dominion over what she does. It's completely possible that it wasn't just bad vibes and she *knew* for a fact she was in danger, but she couldn't do anything other than hint to her friends that she wasn't safe.
@@HighlandLaddie Yeeaaah my bad. I have a bad habit of responding to aggression with aggression without thinking, I'm trying to work on it. Your theory is definitely one of the more sound ones
Man those friends suspicious as fuck. 1. Nobody questioned their weird ass story? 2. Nobody says shit like that. 3. It is quite literally impossible to forget your jacket during that temperature.
"That temperature" would be around 40 degree Fahrenheit. That's the average temperature in Shetland during January. 40 degrees is absolutely warm enough to forget your jacket, especially if you're only walking to a car.
@@SuperSMT police have never done anything wrong, incorrect or poorly. most definitely trust them on the fact they waited to tell the family of the deceased wife the gruesome details despite not being in any position to deprive a grieving family of the truth. A+ for the boys in blue
Can you explain to me your theory of the crime if the friends did it? Do you think they killed everyone the night before and then went back and "discovered" the scene the next morning? And no, it is not "quite literally impossible to forget your jacket during that temperature".
I really, REALLY dislike that fact about his content, it actively discourages me from watching his videos because it annoys me to no end. I get that he is trying to sound mysterious or something, but it just doesn't work for me.
My Uncle's wife was diagnosed with MS, so he became her caregiver, worked full time at the post office and they had a young daughter. He sanity was slipping and her mother agreed to move in and help take care of her. Within a month, her mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer. Now my Uncle had to take care of her mom too. He cracked and disappeared for a week and eventually checked into a mental ward. So I can relate to someone going literally crazy in that position. But not killing anyone. Crazy.
Yes. In contrast to what many of the people here are saying, the details of Harry Horse’s own death are those that lead me to believe in the suicide, though the painful and drawn-out murder of his wife still has me confused and unsettled. I can’t imagine stabbing an ex even, let alone a partner I loved. But if I were to do something that brutal and wretched, I’m certain the moment I realised what I had done, I would want to hurt myself even more. In an awful and quite distant way, i think there’s *some* logic to his butchering his own genitals in that particular context. The horror of giving in to a terrible, intrusive thought, unwillingly held in moments of desperate anxiety, frustration and despair… it’s something i can’t bear to think about
@@Linkophereas someone who has been a caregiver while also juggling a full-time job, I was at the brink of falling off the deep end myself. I think I would have much more likely done something to myself then anyone that I loved but I can still oddly relate to anyone that has gone down the rabbit hole of mental decline and snapped. its indescribable and affects people in different ways.
it's disgusting. even if it was her being terribly ill and wanting to die it would still be utterly irresponsible to report on a murder suicide like that. gross
I can’t be the only one who’s creeped out by mid 90s/early 00’s computer graphics and animation? I can’t quite put my finger on what specifically makes me feel so uneasy around it, but it’s so unnatural and creepy to me.
It reminds me of how VHS-quality footage tends to lend itself to be eerier than watching something disturbing in high definition. You could watch the same thing, footage of something horrifying for whatever reason, and many people claim the poorer quality of a VHS only adds to their terror.
It's always interesting how "the person was on a shit load of drugs" can really affect what you think of the case. There's a bizarre scene and people are puzzled wondering how it could happen and then someone says "drugs" and everyone goes "Oooohh, yeah ok I can see that".
Because it's crazy to think how numb you would have to be (physically and mentally) to stab yourself 47 times and mutilate your own genitals? That's crazy if you think about it. I would need drugs to do that to myself (or to another, especially a pet that I love)
@@thinkinyblinko6666 we aren't talking about a bad trip or being a little paranoid, if it was drug induced psychosis or a psychotic break it IS possible to do something this unbelievable. I'm not saying that's what happened definitively, I haven't finished the video, but it's definitely possible. It's happened before
Even if it had been as simple as a double suicide, why was the media reporting it as a tragic expression of love? That’s really disturbing. Suicide isn’t romantic. It’s suicide. Edit: Please for your own sake do not open the replies. It’s been a year and I’m still getting notifications. Just don’t.
*Romeo and Juliet* is a tragedy of the romantic type. Double-suicide in the face of an insurmountable enemy is a story as old as... well, whenever that was written, and then up to today. It's not that suicide is romantic per se, but more that the suicide itself, in this context, is romanticized, as she had a terminal illness and- according to media portrayal- would form a pact with him so that they wouldn't have to live without one another.
“Aliens” are just demons brother. Have had experiences with the “greys” and they would always appear through my trips on shrooms in nightmares and sleep paralysis. The only way I got all that to stop is from getting back right with Our Creator. God/Jesus Christ. May you find the truth God bless
@@lightworker9360 Lol where did that come from? Go do more shrooms and realize that there are many different creators much older than your God. They're just excuses for things you can't explain. Just go home.
As someone who has lived with Bipolar disorder for years, I can say that I see some big characteristic bipolar symptoms being described in this guy's story. When you got towards the end when you said that he had amitriptyline in his system, and the comment he allegedly told their guests "it's a good night for a killing" right before they left. This got me to consider the possibility that he was an undiagnosed Bipolar patient who was pushed into an extreme bout of mania. Fully Manic Bipolar people can be incredibly dangerous to themselves and others depending on how severe of an episode it is. The reason I bring up severity is that Amitriptyline is an older tricyclic antidepressant, psychiatrists would NEVER give an actually diagnosed bipolar person tricyclic antidepressants as they have been known to chemically induce mania if not paired with a mood stabilizer like lithium. Besides the antidepressants, bipolar people often become more prone to severe mood swings when under a lot of stress and isolation (he was basically isolated from everyone but his wife from the sounds of it). If this was the case it would certainly fit. Granted, I am not one to typically jump to an insanity root cause, because while people with mood disorders can be dangerous in some circumstances they more often than not are not dangerous most of the time and if they are it is usually only to themselves. When you have a set of circumstances like the ones described here with potentially added chemical triggers to encourage such an episode and I could totally believe it if he was having a severe bout of mania. Severe bouts of mania can include hallucinations and paranoid delusions. As someone who has experienced those symptoms, I hate to inform you that people can do all sorts of things that would otherwise seem utterly impossible as if they were on drugs when it's really just their brain essentially frying itself.
Nah man that just seals the deal, he def killed both of them. Along with his friends saying that he was saying "It seems like a good night for a killing." Besides who would want to willingly kill that couple?? That makes no sense.. Unless we don't know of something..
That was one of my thoughts, he had undiagnosed rapid cycling bipolar disorder. One of my best friends has it and she can occasionally lash out without much control over her actions.
I was just thinking something similar. There isn't always a good reason. One moment can be the difference between tragedy or getting over it and into a successful and happy life past your problems. Just one moment. One action. One decision. One episode.
I agree completely. I too have Bipolar and was misdiagnosed for years. Being on antidepressants only, they really really messed up my brain. My manic stages would be extreme, even compared to now when I’m on mood stabilizers. The fact that he was sober doesn’t mean he couldn’t mutilate himself. Often in manic states you don’t feel any pain, or at least I didn’t in the times I was on antidepressants. I would go to extremes with self harm and not even realize how bad it was until I came out of the mania. The isolation and only taking care of Mandy(not at all saying it was her fault) instead of being able to be creative and work on art most likely put him into those thoughts of “I should just kill myself” and “well I don’t want to leave Mandy and our pets” and it was probably stewing for quite a while. That night when he said “it’s a night for killing” he probably was right on the edge, and then perhaps something irritated him and that was the end. I wouldn’t say it was premeditated, but I feel like it was definitely stewing, and ended up a heat of the moment. Plus it’s not often that murderers will kill family pets. I see that as him seeing them as their children and killing them too so they don’t have to live without Mandy and him. I love the video, as I do all Nexpo videos, but I genuinely believe this was Harry’s doing by undiagnosed Bipolar disorder.
@@justin2308 no, the phrase has been around for a very long time, the original Arabic version from at least the 9th century. I was just wondering if this person had an interesting take on it.
I feel so sad for Amanda. Tbh I wasnt expecting anything good when Nexpo mentioned she had MS. Acts of violence by caretakers against chronically/terminally ill people are not uncommon. It's a scary thing to put trust into someone while being sick like she was
Its sad just fking sad, a women who will never be able to live a normal life again and watching the man she loved have his whole world deteriorate to the point of hating her and a man watching the women he loved suffer every day as he was trapped in a place where he had to abandon alot of what made him happy to just watch the love of his life slowly die I wish they had gotten a caretaker if they hadnt already so he could go off for a month or 2 so he couldn't loose the last link to the good life he had left, even if it is a selfish desire its better than him hating the women he loves to the point of killing her
Absolutely. People with disabilities are at higher risk in domestic violence situations and obviously more vulnerable. That makes it even more disgusting for the media to report these things as 'romantic murder-suicides' ugh
@@sarahcosgrove6771 i mean, he probably /didn't/. theres practically no logical way that a human being can stab themselves even over ten times in a row without passing out if they arent on some form of drug. it would be anatomically impossible to do that. either way, though, its a tragic account of two people's mental health declining to the point of near insanity. murder or suicide, or a mix of both, these people suffered from degenerative disorders that crippled their ability to function on a normal basis, and they both felt immense pain during that gradual descent to rock bottom
Just about everything in the "friends'" story doesn't add up. The bizarre dialogue, the 47 self inflincted wounds, the sobriety and the fact that they "forgot a jacket" in the middle of January just to name a few parts. They should have been considered as prime suspects from day one.
They surely were suspected, then investigated, and then found not guilty. Since we don't have the police records, we don't know. But if they had done it, they'd be in jail right now
Wow this unoriginal post that gets posted on every youtuber page! Also he has a check mark guys upvote it! This is an example why RUclips comments are the absolute worst. It's literally the same 5 posts upvoted to the top every video.
Honestly who witnessed this mans sudden fits of rage and thought “Yes this is normal, this man certainly needs no help.” Amanda is the true victim here, but I can’t help but be mad at their inner social circle for seeing this and doing nothing.
I thought the same but he was also taking amitriptyline which means he did speak to a GP about how he was feeling and I'm surprised they missed this too :(
Sometimes it's just too late. Josh Powell had a meeting with his psychologist and a few hours later killed his two sons and himself. He was probably trying to come off as normal in his interviews because he was so determined to kill his children. Might have been similar with this couple. He was trying to come off as normal, probably didn't do the one thing necessary in therapy, wanting to help yourself, and instead let all his demons take over.
It's kinda tough to draw the conclusion that someone with a bad temper could go on to do something THIS gruesome. Plenty of people have went through life in dire need of anger management courses and some meds but I'd wager most of them didn't turn there home into a scene out of A Serbian Film. Sure there might have been signs, but I can't really fault anyone for not predicting this would happen.
@@VortexKiller2 I used to take it, it was awful. Made me hallucinate and bleed out of random places on my skin. Now I take Sertraline and it's so much better
I only found out about this a month ago, which was really shocking to me. I loved reading The Last Polar Bears as a child, it's my all-time favourite children's book, and I'd written Harry Horse a letter that I never sent. Last month, I set to write a new one, simply because I remembered it. Of course, I had to look him up first. Just to see what was happening in his life. I was not expecting this turnout, to say the least.
Bro, I found the journeyman project CD ROM as a kid in the 90s... It’s a game like this one with horror, space , robots, time travel, and generally creepy characters Nonetheless it gave me nightmares for a while as it’s a good scary point and click as a kid
The clay 3D models of late 90s computer games have always left an eerie feeling within me. Even for games that weren't meant to be creepy, such as Fallout. But with the combined effect of this narrative? Chilling.
It's in the absolute depths of the uncanny valley. Many of my nightmares have manifested in this style (I wonder if that's a common thing for 90's kids).
@@MasqueradeRose hmmm, I grew up with a lot of games and whatnot with these sort of graphics and I don’t find them unsettling. I think it’s cause I’m used to it. I find those graphics charming and nostalgic
@@Michaelwomp there's a lot of old stuff that cemented how I perceive horror, like the old 80s movie low piano notes, the clay models from old games of course, horror characters never chasing after their victims but slowly walking and always catching up, that kinda stuff is what makes horror for me
My Dad owned this game. He wasn't a conspiracy guy at all and didn't have any time for a lot of the stuff that I find interesting, but in the 90's, he was a gamer. He loved Age of Empires, Duke Nukem, Wolfenstein, Quake, Unreal Tournament, Half Life, Fallout 1 and 2, and Medal of Honor. He owned this for some reason and always said "it's weird." He let me play most of his games, and would have let me play this one, but I wasn't interested in it. It's long gone now. Happy Father's Day!
Damn that's like my exact trajectory of favorite games in the 90s! I'm probably your Dad's exact age. Takes me back. Except substitute Civ 2 for Age of Empires
I think it's possible to determine if Harry stabbed himself analysing the depth and angle of the stab wounds. Even if you are deranged enough to do it, your body instinctively protects itself so the strength applied is lower. Self-inflicted stab wounds also tend to have an upward direction due to how our arm joints are built.
Actually, its worse because Her caretaker got killed for some reason, their reason for all of this is the real mystery. Also why would they murder their pets? She was weakened by a disease, also Internet includes People who do stuff, if you dont do something that attracts the internet there wont be a entry about you, only an Obituary, which makes sense why she doesnt have more info on herself.
I couldn't agree more. The whole time I was watching the video, I was wondering "What was Amanda thinking/feeling/experiencing as all this was happening?" I know that that information might've been impossible for Nexpo to find and that this video isn't about Amanda, but even so, her life and experiences matter just as much as those of her husband, and I wish we could've seen more of her perspective on everything that was happening in her and her husband's lives
"They left despite Amanda's wishes" I was so confused by this but I completely forgot she had sclerosis so she literally couldn't leave. She fucking knew he wasn't safe and she couldn't do anything about it. I'm literally getting nauseous just thinking about it
Considering his outbursts, def wouldn't be surprised if domestic abuse occurred. Even if Amanda wasn't given her diagnosis and in her wheelchair, I'd bet this turn of events would've still happened, sadly :( Man was pretentious and deluded, as well as full of anger
Dude, the "friends" are probably the ones who actually killed them. If you honestly buy that a guy completely sober stabbed himself till he bled out, I've got some ocean front property in Wyoming to sell you.
Maybe it was because they rushed out the house due to how strange and unsettling harry horse was acting? They did say Amanda didn't want them to leave so maybe they were rushing out and forgot? And plus if it was the friends, why would they call the cops at all? They could've murdered them and left them there to be found by someone else. Why pin themselves to the crime by alerting the cops at all? And all that blood that was on the scene would've definitely been on them and their clothes as well if they committed the crime.
I used to be terrified of old computer graphics as a kid, but now I can’t help but to be at awe with those very same graphics and I reminisce looking back at those graphics while I realise that they are a hidden gem.
I love his final "I love you" because it's not super happy. It does not feel fake. It feels like your about to end a call with your friend after gaming all night, and he says some shit like "hey man. Just... I love you bro. Have a wonderful night" and he quickly leaves the call. Just.. heartfelt
But there was this tinkle in his eye, that I picked up on, which said, 'Dude, we're friends. I'm doing this for appearances. I am the big boss now. And I have to seem like an ogre. But you know me, and you trust me and we like each other. And we'll always be friends. And I would never take you for granted in a million years. And I miss you, man, and I love you... His words.
there’s absolutely no way this man stabbed himself 47 times in the TORSO, even if he HAD taken an incredibly large amount of drugs. why were the friends never investigated?
There are some holes on the friends stories too like the not so well crafted phrase "good night for a killing" he was in a living hell but i cant imagine he'd just snap like that. Again its been said hes was quite incalculable and I believe Authorities and family dont want to tell the wider public everything yet if ever.
Not to be that guy, but people high on stimulants absolutely can do that amount of damage to themselves. My brother works in the ER and they had a guy come in high on meth who took a hacksaw to the back of his own neck and got nearly halfway through his vertebra before deciding that it was a bad idea. Don’t do drugs kids.
I have to say I absolutely love the way he ends his videos with credits and soft music. It feels like the calm after a storm, and is a time of grieving and respite. It’s a moment of saying remember this event and these people. At least, that’s what it feels like to me
Why is no one suspecting those friends that came over? They left and just so happened to come back to the house again because they left their “jacket”? It all seems pretty suspicious. And their story is also “He said, she said”.
Exactly. I'm not saying they did it definitively, but some things aren't adding up. They won't stay with the pleading wife, but they'll come back the next morning for a coat? They are flying back to New Zealand, an entirely different country. How are we sure they are even friends of the couple? Only thing is, they did report the deaths. Why bother doing that if they were leaving the country that same day?
@@CapsuleClub-gf7ms They probably reported the deaths because they probably didn’t have an alibi, and maybe coz their fingerprints would be in the house after their visit
@@randomdude4411 Very true. I'm glad other people dont take their account as face value. It was established Harry was a troubled person, but we're all just supposed to take what the two "friends" said as fact? I think not.
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Your editing and animation has gotten to be SO GOOD. I just really appreciate you making the 3D mockup of the crime scene appear to be from Drowned God.
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*Local Shetlander here.* I actually live not 15 minutes away from where the incident took place. I was rather young when it all happened so I don't have the best memory of it but I know people that do. From what I can gather, I think the nearby locals were always aware that the whole ordeal was a brutal murder-suicide, not a drug-induced double suicide. Theory went that Harry had bought cannabis to help with his wife's MS and began taking it himself which led to the deaths. But clearly that's wrong if the toxicology report is anything to go off so I guess even the locals weren't fully briefed on what happened. Must have been a huge disconnect between what locals heard and what the news reported. Beyond that, great video! Surreal to come across one of my favourite RUclipsrs talking about my home isles!
@@JDizzle785 Yeah, even if the toxicology came back positive for cannabis that would not explain an act like this. I think the 'friend's stories are a little too convenient.
Its totally not unbelievable for something as simple as cannabis to set off something in someone as mentally ill as him it can really mess with some people lol
@Hudson Hamman Depending on body weight and amount consumed, THC metabolites can stick around for upto 3 months. The toxicology screen found nothing. The pathogenesis of mental illnesses resulting from even brief exposure to THC is very rare.
right.. i really want to know if they were properly investigated. obviously we can't know what happened and maybe he did kill himself and his wife and pets, but it all sounds sketchy. the amount of stab woods pretty much being his age.. not to mention mutilating genitalia is common in lust murder which would also explain killing the wife (jealousy) and killing pets can just be something someone would do to make murder-suicide in this case more believable. and it sounds quite weird that someone forgot their jacket during winter and then came back after everyone's been murdered
@@roza2633 Not to mention the "tonight is a good night for a killing" (or whatever it was) part That's like, so cringe? What murderer would say that? Aside from movie murders That's a cringey teen or teen minded murderer thing to get attention Also, even if he said so, leaving the wall breaker, unpredictable guy that's telling you the time is good to kill while his wife begs for you to stay???? Then come back when you wanted to leave in the first place after all the red flags?????? Leave the jacket in winter time??????????? I don't think they did the crime, but I do think the police told them to not tell everything about it
A side note to self stabbing. It happens but is extremely rare. If I remember the Fresno California self stabbing of the man who said he was being harassed by the Fresno Police department, they stated it would have been almost impossible for him to stab himself so many times. This stabbing takes that statement to a whole new level.
Well people in profession say it takes a hell lot of will and dedication to do this while also battling pain. If your under substance or just unstable enough. Well just few times
Yeah and the 'how was he able to do it' question I immediately answered as just pure adrenaline? I doubt it would be enough for ALL of his stab wounds but I'm sure it's possible?
Depends greatly on what he used -- did he use a great big butcher knife or a little tiny paring knife? Did he stab himself in the heart and lungs or in his lower abdomen - sounded like he was stabbing his groin.
Only ppl ignorant to mental health issues, and what your brain is actually capable of would make such a statement. Im a nurse that worked several years in a psych hospital. When a person is truly insane - truly out of their gd mind they are more than capable of acts such as these. Ive seen ppl in psychosis and delusional do some crazy wild sh*t that most ppl could never even imagine to be possible. Most ppl are just to scared to admit that our brains are very much capable of turning on us, and I totally understand why some ppl choose to stay in denial on this fact. Because it IS f'n terrifying to think about what our brains can make us think that's not real, make us see thats not real, make us believe thats not real. Its terrifying. And the fact is....any one of us are capable of snapping, having a mental break, going insane, losing touch with reality, whatever you choose to call it - we are ALL capable of it if life circumstances hit us just right, get hit with big stresses, big losses, and horrific traumas - our mental strength is only so strong, get hit with enough and our brains shut down, pretty much turning on us. I personally feel he had lived his life with untreated mental illness, after hearing ppls descriptions of him, and his fits of rage. Then he lost his dog. Then his wife that he truly did love, she got a horrible diagnosis, and he was faced with the fact she was going to d*e soon. And the man couldn't take any more, and he snapped. When out of your mind, true clinical insanity - you could stab yourself 47 times because your brain isnt receiving and sending signals for you to feel pain. You could mutilate yourself because again...your not feeling it, and he*l he might not have been aware of what he was doing - psychosis, delusions, hallucinations.....he could've been mutilating his genitals, but he was seeing himself carve a f'n turkey! And when it came to attacking his wife - at that moment he may not have seen his wife. He might have seen someone completely different, and been hearing things not really being said. A lot of ppl that have done this once stabilized, medicated, and in their right minds....they'd say that when attacking the person they saw satan, a demon, or a complete stranger that was hurling threats. Once they are medicated, and back sane - they are often horrified to know what they did, and are truly remorseful. That's why ppl that are deemed truly insane get away with murder. Because its not really them committing the acts. Its like your brain decides it wants to be in charge instead of the body, and it takes over making the person see, hear, feel, and think things that are not real. But anyway....i commented a really long explanation of how the brain can go nuts, cause a person to do such things, and why i feel he did do it. Its long, but if your interested in a more in depth explanation its there.
@@thinlineofsanity1035 you are so right. All I could think was me... my struggles with bipolar disorder... and what happens when you give anti depressants to bipolar people.
To quote Sherlock, "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth". I'm calling it, It's the two New Zealanders.
The problem is the blood. Exsanguinating two adult humans and two house pets is a significant amount of blood, especially given the crime scene description. They would have made a huge mess even if they cleaned up at the scene. They would have left prints. If they left the premises, they would have trailed blood. It would have gotten into their rental car, been left at the hotel. The hotel staff would have certainly given them a second look if they came in looking like they swam in spaghetti-o's. The isle isn't that big, their options to clean themselves, their clothes and the rental would have been limited. If Richard/Harry was murdered, it was someone else. Someone local, not visitors from half a world away.
As someone who grew up in Shetland I remember this and the main discussion between everyone on the island was why so little information came out and so little was said on local news. On an island where someone being caught with crumbs of cannabis or getting a speeding ticket or a garden gnome being stolen can be reported on and make the papers the information on this was basically limited to circulating rumours. That being said most people seemed to understand that this was a murder that was being downplayed and swept under the rug to maintain the islands long standing low to no murder rate. The main selling point of the island is being quiet and safe. Can’t let a little murder get in the way of that. 😅
I still don't understand the motivation. Or how they wouldn't investigate this like the murderer wouldn't strike again. Who possibly could have done it with such a small population... yes, he was a conspiracy guy but his conspiracies were substandard at most and never went beyond anything other than "Aliens and Atlantis". And if you're going to fake a suicide you could do a better job than cutting the dick off.
They tend to, yeah. From what I understand as a non-expert, the direction of the wounds tend to change based on whether the person themself is holding the knife, or someone else else. Also the place on the body. Defensive wounds are often on the outer edges forearms as someone raises their hands to block a weapon. I'm just chuckling in annoyance as a trans person that there's a bunch of cis people who think "ah, no one could ever mutilate their genitals while not on drugs!" Like, my dude, talk to some people with dysphoria, you'd be surprised.
@@emexdizzy tbf though, if somebody is trying to kill themselves I doubt they'd aim for their dick. Mutilation on it's own is one thing but the intent behind it in this case makes zero sense imo
@@404usernotfound_ I'm just trying to say that I think drawing conclusion one way or the other from the harm done to the genitalia is a shaky case to build, since I can think of at least one reason someone would self-mutilate as well as reasons someone else might do mutilation. Basically that the mutilation is probably best left as a fact of the case instead of something determining he definitely did or definitely didn't do it.
@@milosh226 that’s what i’m thinking, did she actually say it like “aw man, you guys have to leave so soon? stay here!” and they twisted it as a begging plea so it would pin the blame on her husband?
You know I’ve noticed in several videos Nexpo says “that’s a story for another time” maybe that would be a cool idea for a mini series? Kinda like disturbing things around the internet or chronicles of Reddit, except he explains further on those points he made in previous videos.
I feel it’s important to note that Amitriptyline is primarily a migraine medication and not often used as an antidepressant. It’s side effects (such as hallucinations) are pretty crazy if you’re already prone to some of them and if he had elevated levels it might’ve been pretty bad. Just thought I’d put that out there.
That is what all but confirms it. There is far too much that suggests he did it, and it's simply the police red tape that is keeping the story hidden, since nothing definite proves it.
@@jamesproffitt6304 yeah man i'm _sure_ anyone would think "oh lemme stab myself 47 times since i'm 47 actually that'd be funny haha" in the middle of stabbing themselves! That detail _definitely_ proves he did it!
@@hellothere9520 It's like you never stopped to consider simply telling them that doesn't make sense would've sufficed, you had to go and be a piece of shit about it because you don't know what being a decent human being is. What the dude said isn't right but harms no one, you chose to be a sarcastic asshole and cause offense instead of being calm about it. Try not being a complete fuckhead next time.
Youre right! FYI Harry did not say " IT"S A WONDERFUL NIGHT FOR A KILLING". That's a quote attributed to Charles Manson. It was put out there, through the press by George Williamson, Mandy's father. Oh the irony!
Yeah right!? Plus the thing of one of' em "forget" his jacket so they came back seems ...idk..weird Also he really last long enough to slash him self a 47 WOUND without losing conscience for the lack of blood. either they exaggerating or there's something weird in the story
I live in Scotland, and I have been to Shetland. And I cannot imagine moving there, it is windswept, desolate, cold and grey. It's completely cut off from the rest of Scotland. I can't imagine the affect of moving there from a busy cultural hub like Edinburgh, would have on someone's mental health.
It kind of seems peculiar that they decided to move there, given the circumstances then, right? I wonder if they were trying to go off grid to either avoid being tracked down by someone or something? Being that they had company right before all this occurred is even more troubling.. Could those people have sounded the alarm on Harry and Amanda, and revealed their exact location to this mystery entity? Idk lol
WHY ISNT DROWNED GOD MORE POPULAR? ITS SO GOOD HONESTLY! I feel like it’s what low poly horror games today aspire to be like. Old games like DG get swept under the rug so quickly just because they’re from the 90’s. It makes me mad to think hidden gems like that go unnoticed
@@desi2119 weirdcore/internetcore/nostalgiacore, whatever you want to call it is actually really big these days, and I feel like this is prime material for that kind of thing.
Considering their friends reported his erratic behavior and the fact that he was talking about killing that night, and that the wife begged them not to go, is enough reason to conclude Harry went batshit and murdered that poor woman.
Then again the 'friends' might have made this story up .. Like it would make sense why they would make up stuff like harry saying "its a good night for a killing" to pin the blame on him and saying that amanda asked them to stay just to establish themselves as the trustworthy guys in front of the police. Also, i doubt that a man could mutilate his own genitals and stab himself 47 times and stay alive to do it all.
How can any man stab himself 47 times in the torso and mutilate his junk? At max he could have stabbed himself 10 times. The pain and blood loss would have killed him right there. It sounds very unrealistic to me....
@@scruffymakaveli6870 exactly, as soon as I heard and he was stabbed 40 times in the arms and chest and his genitals were mutilated, I was like, ok cool so it can’t be him right? Yet everyone is saying it is him, even though no substances came up in the toxicology report. It’s almost certainly the friends.
January 10th, the middle of winter, in Scotland, and they didn’t realise they weren’t wearing a jacket that they arrived in? It would’ve been freezing...
No, it would not have not necessarily "have been freezing". The average temperature of Shetland in January is warmer than you seem to realize. The average high temperature (fahrenheit scale) is 43 degrees and the average low is 37. I can easily see someone forgetting their coat if it was around 40 degrees out.
@@BiggieTrismegistus 40 in Fahrenheit is around 4 degrees Celsius? 0 degrees Celsius is literally considered “freezing” and it can snow at that temperature. So what are you talking about lmao??
My mum is from Shetland and I went to ask her about Henry and I found out that Amanda was apparently the year above her in school . It’s so tragic what happened to her
5:53 "And walk in the most unnatural manner possible" Bro, that's literally how my grandma walked. They probably just have really bad arthritis in their knees.
I'm kinda pissed at the friends who knew he had rage issues, heard him say the murder thing, were begged by Amanda not to leave, and still they left without informing anyone that maybe someone should check on or keep an eye on the couple. I have actually kept an all-night vigil outside of a friend's house for less, worried they were in danger. Another theory could be the friends made up those points, and murdered the couple for some reason. I just can't imagine leaving people alone after being begged to stay and hearing one of them speak the way they said he did. I have had family members die from a murder-suicide. This shit can happen to anyone. It is a shame how often people are afraid to stick their nose into a situation, but it could save lives. It's freaky that even if it had been a suicide pact, it is still not a romantic or lovely story as the media was portraying it. It never is.
Its very suspicious that they were the last to see them alive, first to find them dead AND the people to control the narrative on what happened that night along with his mental state.
They are probably not treated as suspects because there's not enough evidence for it. A high court judge and a forensic phsycologist believe they were murdered, I believe they are on to something. The husband does seem like the type of person to abuse his wife and snap, which is awfully convenient. We only know the couple's behaviour the day before from their "friends" testimony. The husband stabbed himself 47 times while completely sober, then mutilated his genitals and acomodated himself near his wife before dying. The door was unlocked, why, where would a dead man go. Did he wanted to be found out? Was it someone else that didn't lock? I don't like this case because the murder suicide conclusion is believable, but how the guy killed himself is odd. Among other things.
For all we know, he was a weird guy, and if you have friends that share your interest in mysteries, you know they will tell dark jokes. It's like when you're walking down a dark alley and one of your friends says, 'Hey, looking like a perfect place for a murderer to hide.' Who would have thought they have planned your murder with a person hiding in that alley? And the friends only come over to visit so it makes sense they think Amanda asking them to stay is just hospitality. They probably didn't think much and were just eager to explore the city in the few days they have. It's probably just in hindsight they realize it was a call for help. I don't think the friends were the murderers. They were on their way to the airport after all, and if they flew back to New Zealand, any questioning would have been hard to do, they will be much safer. Also, I wonder what kind of grudge would make one go so far as to fly half the globe to kill their friends. If they have that kind of motive, surely the police would have discovered.
@@--.._ I understand where you're coming from, nobody _wants_ to get hurt so there's no shame in that. Some people just have that heroic spark that overrides their self-preservation, and it's not always the best choice to act on that; people definitely get harmed or even lose their life trying to act courageously. What I would suggest to you though (or anyone else), if you find yourself in that situation where someone definitely seems dangerous and could hurt someone else or themselves, even if you choose to get away from them just find help. Notify someone who has the power to intervene that something bad might happen, even if you don't know for certain but feel strongly that it will. If it turns out you were mistaken, no harm no foul, as long as they're innocent and you had good reason for being concerned, no party involved should be persecuted (you could probably do this anonymously too FWIW). If you're right though, and you get that help and end up saving someone from danger, you're every bit as virtuous as the person who steps in and stops it from happening. There's no shame in knowing your limits and getting help from someone who's more capable in that situation. I believe there _is_ shame in knowing that something could happen and being able to safely make a difference, but not even trying -- *that* is what a coward does, running away in itself is not necessarily cowardly.
@@whydoiexist2180 that’s why I love the internet it is such a wasteland for beautiful content and disturbing content with so much creativity and mysteries from intense forums to RUclips and to many other places.
@@IzzyisCoolz. people often exaggerate the opposite ends of the spectrum people who don't understand it might call it a form of brainwashing people who do use it call it a random funny place
@@IzzyisCoolz. Lol been on the internet for nearly 20 years now and it's just the same old shit over and over. People are mostly boring and unoriginal.
As a Scot who's lived here my whole life I can confirm the legal system is pretty fucked. Love my country and proud to be Scottish, but holy shit do we need to fix that part of it.
One of the detectives probably know the killer and covered it up, the town only has 900 people, wonder if the murder that was similar 15 years ago was ever solved..
i'm hoh (auditory processing issues), and i appreciate the fact you added subtitles :) every since yt removed community cc, almost nobody does them anymore
@@funnylittlecreature Yes, they claimed that they were being abused and used for harassment and that sort of thing. Which, if you open your caption submissions to other languages and don't check if the translation is right, I guess could happen? But otherwise I had never heard of such a thing. It seemed more like YT just wanted to force people to pay for a captioning service, which they conveniently advertised and gave a discount code for in the announcement about discontinuing community captions.
@@RubeliteRiver no, it's negative. definition : "a saying or remark that is very often made and is therefore not original and not interesting:" noun 1. a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought.
Maybe they were the ones who killed them. 👀 If a husband said "it's a great night to kill somebody" and the wife begged you not to leave, isn't it irrational and almost negligent to say, "Haha, ok... it's been a blast... y'all have a good night now!" and leave? It almost seems like these statements were made up to frame Harry Horse, if I'm to be honest. It certainly doesn't look good for the mystery guests, whoever they were. 🤔 If the mystery guests were also the ones who'd originally claimed that Harry was on a cocktail of drugs, the toxicology results would be proof that they were lying, and if they were lying about Harry being on drugs, the chances are high that they were lying about everything else. But... unless there is more information out there that was not presented in this video, everyone would just be guessing about what happened. 🤔
@@miguelito2361 Not to mention the door to their house was supposedly open when they found the bodies. Even if it wasn't the friends, clearly it must have been an outsider.
An extreme psychotic break could allow him physically to do this, but that is EXTREMELY rare, and he should've had an episode earlier in life. In psychosis the fear and adrenaline can do wild things, and without antipsychotics it almost always progresses, and he didn't use any street drugs, but the sheer violence makes it all feel like a desperate reach to explain everything.
I honestly didn’t like this video. The story just isn’t really that interesting to me. Now since I didn’t like this video, I’m going to have to wait another month and a half for a new video. Fuck.
The point of the way investigations operate in Scotland is to avoid the media blowing up a story. It's just a shame that journalists felt a need to publish these things without real evidence or backing from the investigators.
the amount of work you put in to make these videos beautiful is breathtaking and I soooo appreciate it. Everything always looks so cool. It's like watching an actual netflix show or something.
This is so bizzare to me. I knew the name Harry Horse felt familiar. But it wasn't until you mentioned he wrote children's books that something started coming up in my head, and what made me 100% sure what the mention of the dog named "Ru". Harry Horse's books are literally my childhood. To be exact, the "The Last... " series that was about an old man writing a diary or letters (It differed between books I believe) that were dedicated to his grandson. He would travel to all sorts of crazy places with his beloved companion - A dog. Named "Ru". Yeah. "The Last Gold Diggers". "The Last Polar Bears", "The Last Castaways" and more. I still have these books somewhere on an old dusty bookshelf. I believe the last might've been released around 2004. I would've never thought that the books that basically made me get interested in reading as a kid were written by someone so disturbed. It's kind of shocking. And kinda life changing. These books were, no, ARE still very important to me. And from now on whenever I remember them I'll also remember this video. I might just try and read them now, just to see if Harry's deminishing mental health was captured in there or if he was a true artist who cut himself off from the real world completely while writing his books. I'm conflicted, especially knowing how uncertain and unexplained everything is in this case.
Fuck dude I didn't pick up on that until you mentioned it, The Last Cowboys was the first book I ever chose to read by myself. Ordered it through a scholastic catalogue in primary school and vividly remember that being the first time I was completely drawn in by literature
So sorry these important parts of your childhood had to be ruined for you like this :/ hope you can still look back on them fondly without them being tainted too much by this
@@gall9had Well, they are still my childhood and I still love these books. It's just that every time I'll look at them now I'll also remember what ultimately happened. It might be sad and messed up, but it won't take away the fun I had with them in the past.
As far as I'm concerned everything he did was a valid way to get to the top. Even though he lied about being a student, he was clearly smart and talented enough to have gotten into those classes anyway. Even though he lied about being an agent, the publishing company thought his book was good enough to publish. Just shows that you pretty much have to pay and know your way to the top even with talent.
I know that I’m not the only early 2000s kid that was waiting for a good ol’ jump scare with that extra long pause on the windows screen at the beginning 😹
5:04 holy shit! I did NOT expect a reference to the Wayzata Museum of Anything Goes. I was starting to think I was the only person who had that. Wish I still had the cd... There was so much content in that. So cool to see it referenced!
"Walk in the most unnatural manner possible". Bruh, that's me when I realise I forgot to bring in a towel before I showered.
that was legit me like 10 minutes ago LOL
I couldn't agree more.😂
@Rita - F*СΚ MΈ ! fucking relatable
God I hate it when that happens...
God dammit how do people do this so quickly
"If I went through everything, the runtime would be two hours long"
Don't threaten me with a good time, Nexpo.
How am I the first comment?
@@jamesosborne2305 How am I the second?
@@MrJerkdude1 how am I the third?
@@atheontimesconflux4613 How am I the fourth?
Haro
“Final video would be 2 hours long”
Look dude if you’re willing to edit that I’d be down.
Double
i could watch this guy for days
He*l yeah! When he said that i thought....but id f'n LOVE a 2 hr nexpo video!! 😔
no but seriously
Yeah, I see a lot of creators saying that they don’t want to make videos too long, but that’s exactly what we want.
"47 self-inflicted chest wounds" radiates the same energy as "a warning shot to the head"
We really need to see the autopsy report and Mandy's family should have looked into the case with private investigators if the police cannot be trusted. Money is another factor that we know little about.
"his death was ruled as suicide with two shots to the back of the head"
Yeah this sounds like some spooky Epstein crap.
yeah my mind tends to go straight to the Clintons when I hear about stuff like this
Same as John Lang,"suicide including 4 stab wounds,1 of them being in the back"
It’s actually disgusting that reporters thought of such an event as an “act of love” with little to no information.
Hes a well known guy. And people know him of his facade persona. Surely you won't take this brutally honest if the report says *He stab his wife his pet himself and his penis many times and both bled to death*
That's journalists for ya
Thats the media for you
they are creating stories, they just do their job and if the police tells them it was a suicide using painkillers, they'll write that down, if a local says it, they'll write that down. It is a messy business but I don't think they could have done much better.
reporters.... need we say more?
"It's a wonderful night for a killing"
"Y'know Harry doesn't quite seem himself this evening, but I can't put my finger on why that might be"
Mandy: "Guys... please *please* don't leave me, I just feel weird about him, please don't leave"
Them: "Well Mandy, we feel the same way, but naaaaah, Harry wouldn't do anything, it's prolly just the weather"
Yeah I don’t believe for a second he said that, especially since it’s a quote form Charles
Manson.
@@nerdstop5025
"We'll return a little later because we might forget our jacket behind on our way to the Airport on one of the coldest nights of the year. Manage him till then, bye."
@@roseCatcher_ seriously, if they aren't guilty then they are definitely the shittiest friends
I can only apologise
does anyone else find it odd that those "friends" came by their house heard Harry say "tonights a good night for a killing" and Amanda telling them to stay there, and then they go off and leave?
I think Harry saying that is definitely something to consider. The friends leaving not so much because I mean who wouldn't leave if they were told those things?
@@revisedvision yeah i understand that,but amanda asking them to stay also bothers me, but there is probably more to it than that
"Who wouldn't leave if they were told by an emotionally-intense man that tonight is a wonderful night for a killing?"
I think a more important question is "What sort of 'friend' would *_leave a disabled woman_* in the presence of a man who is clearly at the end of his wits and has a vivid history of emotional volatility? When said disabled woman is begging for them to not leave?"
They could have left. _And then _*_did literally anything else_*_ in addition._ Like, take Amanda with them, or called the police to do a wellness check later.
@@revisedvision yeah but if his behavior was enough to genuinely make them feel not safe, what does it say that they left this woman in a wheelchair alone with him? And especially after she insists they stay
@@deftrascal1626 I mean maybe the couple had a fight or flight response. and they didn't wanna have anything happen to them so they chose their lives over hers. not saying your wrong they should definitely be suspects. as they were the last ones to see them alive and then conveniently be the ones to call it in.
“If you look like a student and act like a student, you basically are one.”
This is how I made money in my early 20’s, attending lectures for students and taking notes at universities I didn’t go to. Just act like you’re supposed to be there and nobody asks any questions
howd you make money off attending lectures?
@@branchy1186 he prob learned things that made him money afterwards
@@branchy1186 You get paid by a lazy partygoer to attend, then hand them the notes of the lecture afterwards.
@@branchy1186 I would attend the lectures on behalf of students who either couldn't or didn't want to attend the classes. Some were party animals that wanted to sleep in, more still were wealthy exchange students who were there to buy a degree.
Honestly, it's easy money if you have the skill for it, and you can get a free education, minus the diploma.
It's pretty wild, but the answer to "how do I get into this prestigious university?" is simply "walk in the door and find a seat."
@@ionceateapinecone whaaaat lmao are you being for real? thats really a thing? youve never been caught? even suspected? you just decided one day to pop into a random school & the rest was history? lol
Went to Wikipedia to look at the whole case and saw a reference to you: “a video essay uploaded onto RUclips by Nexpo titled ‘A Creator’s Dive Into Turmoil’ at 26 minutes into the video even proposed a possibility that the scene may have been a murder...” Congrats on the recognition of your quality work, story telling and investigating you do
and then it got removed by some random killjoy
@@sci_pain3409 lame
@@Chocolateness2000 but it is.
@@Chocolateness2000 yeah everyone can edit articles on Wiki. I did it in highschool for shit and giggles and then got restricted lmao.
@@TheKennedyy I could easily go on Wikipedia and make a whole ass page about you right now, it's not that next level. I could also edit any page I wanted to and have you up there but I doubt it'd stay for long
"the legal system in scotland is frustrating" really landed with me tbh. I'm Scottish and a frustrating case was the jodi jones murder that happened near Edinburgh. The boyfriend got convicted for it where most of the evidence didn't even point to him and a lot of the argument was that he was into bands like maralyn manson. He was put in prison at 14 and is in his 30s now.
It's 'Edinburg', bruh.
@@gram. OP is correct though,the capital of Scotland is called Edinburgh,with an h at the end.
So we're still convicting people for their music taste? Is it still 1938 in Scotland?
Also, who's Maralyn Manson? lol
@@lisiastar8441 I meant it as a sarcy joke cause narrator pronounced it that way throughout... of course I didn't make that obvious enough man...
(I'm a weegie btw)
@@comedicsociopathy I have no clue what you're trying to say bud?
Music wasn't mentioned?
One thing that hit me as strange was that when the friends visited, Amanda told them to stay, implying that she knew or felt something was wrong.She probably wasn't sure, but there was definitely something going on...
Harry saying "A wonderful night for a killing." is another huge red flag. In no context is that a thing someone just says for no reason
i was thinking thee same thing. horse probably told mandy what he was planning hence her pleading the friends to stay knowing that he wouldnt do it while they are there.
@@HighlandLaddie
Don't act like you're the only one to think of that
Well what didn't even occur to me until just now was that she had sclerosis and was in a wheelchair, so she couldn't actually do anything to stop it. She couldn't even step away to speak to their friends privately, Harry had literal complete dominion over what she does. It's completely possible that it wasn't just bad vibes and she *knew* for a fact she was in danger, but she couldn't do anything other than hint to her friends that she wasn't safe.
@@HighlandLaddie
Yeeaaah my bad. I have a bad habit of responding to aggression with aggression without thinking, I'm trying to work on it. Your theory is definitely one of the more sound ones
Man those friends suspicious as fuck.
1. Nobody questioned their weird ass story?
2. Nobody says shit like that.
3. It is quite literally impossible to forget your jacket during that temperature.
Obviously the police did question them, are you crazy? They just haven't released that info
Those friends probably did it
"That temperature" would be around 40 degree Fahrenheit. That's the average temperature in Shetland during January. 40 degrees is absolutely warm enough to forget your jacket, especially if you're only walking to a car.
@@SuperSMT police have never done anything wrong, incorrect or poorly. most definitely trust them on the fact they waited to tell the family of the deceased wife the gruesome details despite not being in any position to deprive a grieving family of the truth. A+ for the boys in blue
Can you explain to me your theory of the crime if the friends did it? Do you think they killed everyone the night before and then went back and "discovered" the scene the next morning?
And no, it is not "quite literally impossible to forget your jacket during that temperature".
Nexpo: "If everything was included, the runtime would be two hours long."
Me: I mean, I ain't complaining.
ikr he already has hour long videos and they're usually good
If he released a full one, I'd watch.
Then give you a kiss goodnight, that's sweet 😘
Gotta say you are an expert with the slightly too long uncomfortable pauses between segments.
lol thats why i watch on 1.5x speed
@@Toxiic115 genius
Thats a weird compliment
especially this one 8:01
I really, REALLY dislike that fact about his content, it actively discourages me from watching his videos because it annoys me to no end.
I get that he is trying to sound mysterious or something, but it just doesn't work for me.
"If I went through everything, the run time would be 2 hours long"
That's never going to be a problem, NexBro
yeah haha i was thinking, AND? i would love a 2hr video!
Not sure he's so keen on editing an extra 90 mins though! Must take a long time to put these together.
My Uncle's wife was diagnosed with MS, so he became her caregiver, worked full time at the post office and they had a young daughter. He sanity was slipping and her mother agreed to move in and help take care of her. Within a month, her mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer. Now my Uncle had to take care of her mom too. He cracked and disappeared for a week and eventually checked into a mental ward. So I can relate to someone going literally crazy in that position. But not killing anyone. Crazy.
Yes. In contrast to what many of the people here are saying, the details of Harry Horse’s own death are those that lead me to believe in the suicide, though the painful and drawn-out murder of his wife still has me confused and unsettled.
I can’t imagine stabbing an ex even, let alone a partner I loved. But if I were to do something that brutal and wretched, I’m certain the moment I realised what I had done, I would want to hurt myself even more. In an awful and quite distant way, i think there’s *some* logic to his butchering his own genitals in that particular context. The horror of giving in to a terrible, intrusive thought, unwillingly held in moments of desperate anxiety, frustration and despair… it’s something i can’t bear to think about
@@tobysinbad when u snap you snap plain and simple. The fact you're thinking about is way more logic than someone whos gone off the deep end is doing
@@Linkophereas someone who has been a caregiver while also juggling a full-time job, I was at the brink of falling off the deep end myself. I think I would have much more likely done something to myself then anyone that I loved but I can still oddly relate to anyone that has gone down the rabbit hole of mental decline and snapped. its indescribable and affects people in different ways.
I love how Nexpo's editing makes everything seem 10x creepier than it really is.
It’s time for a 39 minute video,Nexpo making a vid on how my shit is so big
That and the sinister narration could make a baby hedgehoglet vid seem dark
Truth, like his randonautica video a while back i think the content of the video is kinda dry but maybe its not really for me
@@TupDigital don't let them do a version of baby shark....
i'm still that person who watches videos from nexpo or mamamax and cannot go to the bathroom, basement, or upstairs without being scared as hell 😔🙌🏼
“an act of love” the media never disappoints
damn bots
yup they got sacrificed
*Never fails to disappoint.
UK media, in particular.
it's disgusting. even if it was her being terribly ill and wanting to die it would still be utterly irresponsible to report on a murder suicide like that. gross
I can’t be the only one who’s creeped out by mid 90s/early 00’s computer graphics and animation? I can’t quite put my finger on what specifically makes me feel so uneasy around it, but it’s so unnatural and creepy to me.
me too!
probably because of stuff like five nights at freddys which imitated the look
@@massy9437 Nah this stuff surpasses FNAF by years
@@KarlVeiga that's what I mean fnaf and mainly modern indie horrors or args have perverted the view of the style to creepy
It reminds me of how VHS-quality footage tends to lend itself to be eerier than watching something disturbing in high definition. You could watch the same thing, footage of something horrifying for whatever reason, and many people claim the poorer quality of a VHS only adds to their terror.
It's always interesting how "the person was on a shit load of drugs" can really affect what you think of the case. There's a bizarre scene and people are puzzled wondering how it could happen and then someone says "drugs" and everyone goes "Oooohh, yeah ok I can see that".
Because it's crazy to think how numb you would have to be (physically and mentally) to stab yourself 47 times and mutilate your own genitals? That's crazy if you think about it. I would need drugs to do that to myself (or to another, especially a pet that I love)
Ive done almost every drug known to man and not one of them would compel me or even allow me to inflict such pain on myself. He was murdered.
This person has clearly never had those DARE assemblies at school
@@thinkinyblinko6666 we aren't talking about a bad trip or being a little paranoid, if it was drug induced psychosis or a psychotic break it IS possible to do something this unbelievable. I'm not saying that's what happened definitively, I haven't finished the video, but it's definitely possible. It's happened before
@@93MM483N50N honestly meth would be the drug to assist this but not to themselves, nibba was murdered.
Even if it had been as simple as a double suicide, why was the media reporting it as a tragic expression of love? That’s really disturbing. Suicide isn’t romantic. It’s suicide.
Edit: Please for your own sake do not open the replies. It’s been a year and I’m still getting notifications. Just don’t.
Harry Horse didn't kill himself
*Romeo and Juliet* is a tragedy of the romantic type. Double-suicide in the face of an insurmountable enemy is a story as old as... well, whenever that was written, and then up to today. It's not that suicide is romantic per se, but more that the suicide itself, in this context, is romanticized, as she had a terminal illness and- according to media portrayal- would form a pact with him so that they wouldn't have to live without one another.
Ever read "The Sun" or "Daily Mail"? They leach on every tragedy for attention and money.
of course it is
@@--.._ you really shouldn’t hurt your loved ones like that though
"So, the game's big secret is that we were made by aliens, huh? - looks at the cover art of the game with big face of an alien on it"
“Aliens” are just demons brother. Have had experiences with the “greys” and they would always appear through my trips on shrooms in nightmares and sleep paralysis. The only way I got all that to stop is from getting back right with Our Creator. God/Jesus Christ. May you find the truth God bless
@@lightworker9360 lol
@@lightworker9360 may you find sanity one day
@@lightworker9360 Your religion isn't even the first, it's based on much older stories. Go take it somewhere it'll be appreciated, aka, not here.
@@lightworker9360 Lol where did that come from?
Go do more shrooms and realize that there are many different creators much older than your God. They're just excuses for things you can't explain. Just go home.
As someone who has lived with Bipolar disorder for years, I can say that I see some big characteristic bipolar symptoms being described in this guy's story. When you got towards the end when you said that he had amitriptyline in his system, and the comment he allegedly told their guests "it's a good night for a killing" right before they left.
This got me to consider the possibility that he was an undiagnosed Bipolar patient who was pushed into an extreme bout of mania. Fully Manic Bipolar people can be incredibly dangerous to themselves and others depending on how severe of an episode it is. The reason I bring up severity is that Amitriptyline is an older tricyclic antidepressant, psychiatrists would NEVER give an actually diagnosed bipolar person tricyclic antidepressants as they have been known to chemically induce mania if not paired with a mood stabilizer like lithium.
Besides the antidepressants, bipolar people often become more prone to severe mood swings when under a lot of stress and isolation (he was basically isolated from everyone but his wife from the sounds of it). If this was the case it would certainly fit.
Granted, I am not one to typically jump to an insanity root cause, because while people with mood disorders can be dangerous in some circumstances they more often than not are not dangerous most of the time and if they are it is usually only to themselves. When you have a set of circumstances like the ones described here with potentially added chemical triggers to encourage such an episode and I could totally believe it if he was having a severe bout of mania. Severe bouts of mania can include hallucinations and paranoid delusions.
As someone who has experienced those symptoms, I hate to inform you that people can do all sorts of things that would otherwise seem utterly impossible as if they were on drugs when it's really just their brain essentially frying itself.
Well said
Nah man that just seals the deal, he def killed both of them. Along with his friends saying that he was saying "It seems like a good night for a killing." Besides who would want to willingly kill that couple?? That makes no sense.. Unless we don't know of something..
That was one of my thoughts, he had undiagnosed rapid cycling bipolar disorder. One of my best friends has it and she can occasionally lash out without much control over her actions.
I was just thinking something similar.
There isn't always a good reason. One moment can be the difference between tragedy or getting over it and into a successful and happy life past your problems. Just one moment. One action. One decision. One episode.
I agree completely. I too have Bipolar and was misdiagnosed for years. Being on antidepressants only, they really really messed up my brain. My manic stages would be extreme, even compared to now when I’m on mood stabilizers.
The fact that he was sober doesn’t mean he couldn’t mutilate himself. Often in manic states you don’t feel any pain, or at least I didn’t in the times I was on antidepressants. I would go to extremes with self harm and not even realize how bad it was until I came out of the mania.
The isolation and only taking care of Mandy(not at all saying it was her fault) instead of being able to be creative and work on art most likely put him into those thoughts of “I should just kill myself” and “well I don’t want to leave Mandy and our pets” and it was probably stewing for quite a while. That night when he said “it’s a night for killing” he probably was right on the edge, and then perhaps something irritated him and that was the end. I wouldn’t say it was premeditated, but I feel like it was definitely stewing, and ended up a heat of the moment.
Plus it’s not often that murderers will kill family pets. I see that as him seeing them as their children and killing them too so they don’t have to live without Mandy and him.
I love the video, as I do all Nexpo videos, but I genuinely believe this was Harry’s doing by undiagnosed Bipolar disorder.
"Trust too deeply and you'll know the wickedness in men's heart" Gave me straight chills
Wear a coat then
And if you really understand what "As above, so below" means, really what it means.
It really creeps you out.
@@eugenefanboy4478oooh explain?
@@lintecassidy206Personally, the way I’ve heard it is that it’s something Aleister Crowley came up with.
@@justin2308 no, the phrase has been around for a very long time, the original Arabic version from at least the 9th century. I was just wondering if this person had an interesting take on it.
Getting a nexpo upload is like Dad coming home from the milk store.
Wait
For what? Did you forget the milk?
Obligatory "hello video creator"
In all seriousness, thanks for such great and effort filled videos on obscure and creepy things.
This is a wellbeing check, surrender your vibes right now
Now that's a reference
“Let me take you to the beginning”
“THE NEW HANDCRAFTED QUESADILLA AT CHIPOTLE”
LMFAOO
Lmao me too
I got some ad for a pepper bra? Wtf lol
@@854XTOY I’m sorry a what
@@theish8632 bras for chicks with Itty bitty tiddays lol
I feel so sad for Amanda. Tbh I wasnt expecting anything good when Nexpo mentioned she had MS. Acts of violence by caretakers against chronically/terminally ill people are not uncommon. It's a scary thing to put trust into someone while being sick like she was
Its sad just fking sad, a women who will never be able to live a normal life again and watching the man she loved have his whole world deteriorate to the point of hating her and a man watching the women he loved suffer every day as he was trapped in a place where he had to abandon alot of what made him happy to just watch the love of his life slowly die
I wish they had gotten a caretaker if they hadnt already so he could go off for a month or 2 so he couldn't loose the last link to the good life he had left, even if it is a selfish desire its better than him hating the women he loves to the point of killing her
Absolutely. People with disabilities are at higher risk in domestic violence situations and obviously more vulnerable. That makes it even more disgusting for the media to report these things as 'romantic murder-suicides' ugh
@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 how did the man kill her and then stab himself 40 times my dude show me😊
@@sarahcosgrove6771 i mean, he probably /didn't/. theres practically no logical way that a human being can stab themselves even over ten times in a row without passing out if they arent on some form of drug. it would be anatomically impossible to do that.
either way, though, its a tragic account of two people's mental health declining to the point of near insanity. murder or suicide, or a mix of both, these people suffered from degenerative disorders that crippled their ability to function on a normal basis, and they both felt immense pain during that gradual descent to rock bottom
Just about everything in the "friends'" story doesn't add up. The bizarre dialogue, the 47 self inflincted wounds, the sobriety and the fact that they "forgot a jacket" in the middle of January just to name a few parts. They should have been considered as prime suspects from day one.
This is the dumbest and least thought out comment I’ve ever read.
@@WALTAH2000 please explain to me how you came to this conclusion 🤦♂️
@@WALTAH2000 are you one of the friends?
@@zars4533 i feel like they did have something to do with it, and used the jacket as a cover up
They surely were suspected, then investigated, and then found not guilty. Since we don't have the police records, we don't know.
But if they had done it, they'd be in jail right now
When Nexpo uploads, I stop whatever I'm doing and watch. Just how it goes
yes
Lol I was in the middle of a video from another RUclipsr
Uploaded right after work, Hell yeah!
@@clevername8832 same lol
Wow this unoriginal post that gets posted on every youtuber page! Also he has a check mark guys upvote it!
This is an example why RUclips comments are the absolute worst. It's literally the same 5 posts upvoted to the top every video.
Put Put is the greatest horror point and click adventure.
I don’t know the last door is pretty good too
@@Epic_Underwear Agreed 👍🏼
What about Freddi Fish? I think it was done by the same people
i am legitimately so confused
@@akseljude3881 about what
Honestly who witnessed this mans sudden fits of rage and thought “Yes this is normal, this man certainly needs no help.” Amanda is the true victim here, but I can’t help but be mad at their inner social circle for seeing this and doing nothing.
I thought the same but he was also taking amitriptyline which means he did speak to a GP about how he was feeling and I'm surprised they missed this too :(
Sometimes it's just too late. Josh Powell had a meeting with his psychologist and a few hours later killed his two sons and himself. He was probably trying to come off as normal in his interviews because he was so determined to kill his children. Might have been similar with this couple. He was trying to come off as normal, probably didn't do the one thing necessary in therapy, wanting to help yourself, and instead let all his demons take over.
@@soniavdb7173 I actually take Amitryptiline for helping with sleep, not bad stuff tbh
It's kinda tough to draw the conclusion that someone with a bad temper could go on to do something THIS gruesome. Plenty of people have went through life in dire need of anger management courses and some meds but I'd wager most of them didn't turn there home into a scene out of A Serbian Film.
Sure there might have been signs, but I can't really fault anyone for not predicting this would happen.
@@VortexKiller2 I used to take it, it was awful. Made me hallucinate and bleed out of random places on my skin. Now I take Sertraline and it's so much better
I only found out about this a month ago, which was really shocking to me. I loved reading The Last Polar Bears as a child, it's my all-time favourite children's book, and I'd written Harry Horse a letter that I never sent. Last month, I set to write a new one, simply because I remembered it. Of course, I had to look him up first. Just to see what was happening in his life.
I was not expecting this turnout, to say the least.
Imagine a 90s child coming across one of these games while he was playing around on his parents' computer. The existential nightmare that ensues.
it thoroughly messed with nine year old me
I’m mad as a 90’s kid that I missed this chance
well it was rated M so..
That was me
Bro, I found the journeyman project CD ROM as a kid in the 90s...
It’s a game like this one with horror, space , robots, time travel, and generally creepy characters
Nonetheless it gave me nightmares for a while as it’s a good scary point and click as a kid
The clay 3D models of late 90s computer games have always left an eerie feeling within me. Even for games that weren't meant to be creepy, such as Fallout. But with the combined effect of this narrative? Chilling.
It's in the absolute depths of the uncanny valley. Many of my nightmares have manifested in this style (I wonder if that's a common thing for 90's kids).
Bro I love that type of stuff a lot. I mean yeah its creepy but its also interesting in a way. Something about it just makes me feel uneasy.
They still freak me out to this day, them and porcelain dolls.
@@MasqueradeRose hmmm, I grew up with a lot of games and whatnot with these sort of graphics and I don’t find them unsettling. I think it’s cause I’m used to it. I find those graphics charming and nostalgic
@@Michaelwomp there's a lot of old stuff that cemented how I perceive horror, like the old 80s movie low piano notes, the clay models from old games of course, horror characters never chasing after their victims but slowly walking and always catching up, that kinda stuff is what makes horror for me
My Dad owned this game. He wasn't a conspiracy guy at all and didn't have any time for a lot of the stuff that I find interesting, but in the 90's, he was a gamer. He loved Age of Empires, Duke Nukem, Wolfenstein, Quake, Unreal Tournament, Half Life, Fallout 1 and 2, and Medal of Honor. He owned this for some reason and always said "it's weird." He let me play most of his games, and would have let me play this one, but I wasn't interested in it. It's long gone now. Happy Father's Day!
The game is satanic
@@wolfshield6110 not really it’s just a “we wuz aliens n shieeeeet” conspiracy turned into an interesting adventure game
Damn that's like my exact trajectory of favorite games in the 90s! I'm probably your Dad's exact age. Takes me back. Except substitute Civ 2 for Age of Empires
@@t.c.bramblett617 Dad is 57 now! Cheers!
@@bojanmilankovic That's neat! I hope your dad is well
I think it's possible to determine if Harry stabbed himself analysing the depth and angle of the stab wounds. Even if you are deranged enough to do it, your body instinctively protects itself so the strength applied is lower. Self-inflicted stab wounds also tend to have an upward direction due to how our arm joints are built.
Plus even if you tried to stab yourself straight they wouldn't be cus of the pain your hands would move bc of the pain
Character in the second section: *walks like a regular old man*
Nexpo: "the characters move extremely unnatural"
Old men are SUPERnatural
It's a Parkinson's syndrome walk
@@mrbounceoffwithdat4420 i call it Bee gees walk
@@TerrorLTZ lmao yes
Plug walk
I love all of your content, this is information that I never would've found out in my life, if you never covered them
100% same
roughly how many hours of your life have you spent commenting on RUclips?
@@elijahmckenzie9207 why would you care?
Racc because I see him everywhere Einstein
we all talk about Nexpo's epic content, but why is no one talking about Harry Horse
So so tragic. Amanda deserved so much better than to be a footnote in Horse's suffering artist story.
Actually, its worse because Her caretaker got killed for some reason, their reason for all of this is the real mystery. Also why would they murder their pets? She was weakened by a disease, also Internet includes People who do stuff, if you dont do something that attracts the internet there wont be a entry about you, only an Obituary, which makes sense why she doesnt have more info on herself.
I couldn't agree more. The whole time I was watching the video, I was wondering "What was Amanda thinking/feeling/experiencing as all this was happening?" I know that that information might've been impossible for Nexpo to find and that this video isn't about Amanda, but even so, her life and experiences matter just as much as those of her husband, and I wish we could've seen more of her perspective on everything that was happening in her and her husband's lives
That's what is was thinking, it's such a shame. Especially with that initial "romeo and juliet" misconception.
mae :)
@@pamcake5013 kyubey :]
This is why the media is so awful most of the time, they twisted this pretty grim situation into a LOVE STORY??? That's so sickening.
guess who owns a disproportionate amount of it despite making up less than 2% of the population
@@nomaaela8765RICH PEOPLE
@@nomaaela8765Adolf is that you I thought you shot yourself in that bunker
Nexpo: *uploads*
Me at 9 at night home alone: This will be fine.
I feel the same way bro
totally not a nightmare material
Yo no cap lmao
10 at night
@@jacksonlblais1451 8 😈😈
"They left despite Amanda's wishes" I was so confused by this but I completely forgot she had sclerosis so she literally couldn't leave. She fucking knew he wasn't safe and she couldn't do anything about it. I'm literally getting nauseous just thinking about it
Considering his outbursts, def wouldn't be surprised if domestic abuse occurred. Even if Amanda wasn't given her diagnosis and in her wheelchair, I'd bet this turn of events would've still happened, sadly :( Man was pretentious and deluded, as well as full of anger
Funny seeing you here
@ What brings you to conclude the case?
Dude, the "friends" are probably the ones who actually killed them. If you honestly buy that a guy completely sober stabbed himself till he bled out, I've got some ocean front property in Wyoming to sell you.
In my defense, I would definitely leave than stay given the history of Harry. I might get murdered if I stayed. I am sorry for being a coward.
How could you as a New Zealander forget your coat in the dead of winter next to an ocean.
It's not even officially winter yet and it's too miserable without a coat already
That's actually a really good point.
They might leave by cars with AC fully on. Well if their claims were right. There's nearly zero info on who are those couple
@@wolfensniper4012 aside from harry himself, these two should be the primary suspects.
Maybe it was because they rushed out the house due to how strange and unsettling harry horse was acting? They did say Amanda didn't want them to leave so maybe they were rushing out and forgot? And plus if it was the friends, why would they call the cops at all? They could've murdered them and left them there to be found by someone else. Why pin themselves to the crime by alerting the cops at all? And all that blood that was on the scene would've definitely been on them and their clothes as well if they committed the crime.
I used to be terrified of old computer graphics as a kid, but now I can’t help but to be at awe with those very same graphics and I reminisce looking back at those graphics while I realise that they are a hidden gem.
I love his final "I love you" because it's not super happy. It does not feel fake. It feels like your about to end a call with your friend after gaming all night, and he says some shit like "hey man. Just... I love you bro. Have a wonderful night" and he quickly leaves the call. Just.. heartfelt
Hey man let's keep it hetero
@@gram. we all have our socks on dog
But there was this tinkle in his eye, that I picked up on, which said, 'Dude, we're friends. I'm doing this for appearances. I am the big boss now. And I have to seem like an ogre. But you know me, and you trust me and we like each other. And we'll always be friends. And I would never take you for granted in a million years. And I miss you, man, and I love you... His words.
@@letllve is this a reference?
Me and my friends make it an important part to tell each other we care about and love each other
Hearing his dog died after every single photo of him shown so far has included his dog.... I know this isn't going to go well.
I noticed that too. This whole story is tragic.
from the second picture i was thinking "that dog is plot relevant. that dogs coming back"
Read about the comic book killer your get a better understanding of this he want insane happens to a lot of artice for same reason
there’s absolutely no way this man stabbed himself 47 times in the TORSO, even if he HAD taken an incredibly large amount of drugs. why were the friends never investigated?
@Tiffany EXACTLY
47 is a devine number, perhaps it means something? 👀
There are some holes on the friends stories too like the not so well crafted phrase "good night for a killing" he was in a living hell but i cant imagine he'd just snap like that. Again its been said hes was quite incalculable and I believe Authorities and family dont want to tell the wider public everything yet if ever.
@@prospektthebaphomet7193... Where were you on the night of the crime?
Not to be that guy, but people high on stimulants absolutely can do that amount of damage to themselves. My brother works in the ER and they had a guy come in high on meth who took a hacksaw to the back of his own neck and got nearly halfway through his vertebra before deciding that it was a bad idea. Don’t do drugs kids.
I have to say I absolutely love the way he ends his videos with credits and soft music. It feels like the calm after a storm, and is a time of grieving and respite. It’s a moment of saying remember this event and these people. At least, that’s what it feels like to me
Why is no one suspecting those friends that came over? They left and just so happened to come back to the house again because they left their “jacket”? It all seems pretty suspicious. And their story is also “He said, she said”.
Exactly. I'm not saying they did it definitively, but some things aren't adding up. They won't stay with the pleading wife, but they'll come back the next morning for a coat? They are flying back to New Zealand, an entirely different country. How are we sure they are even friends of the couple? Only thing is, they did report the deaths. Why bother doing that if they were leaving the country that same day?
@@CapsuleClub-gf7ms They probably reported the deaths because they probably didn’t have an alibi, and maybe coz their fingerprints would be in the house after their visit
@@randomdude4411 Very true. I'm glad other people dont take their account as face value. It was established Harry was a troubled person, but we're all just supposed to take what the two "friends" said as fact? I think not.
@@CapsuleClub-gf7ms yeah. Plus in a small town like this it’s important to look closely at any outsiders.
It's sus but no more sus than anything else.
Is there a horror film called SWAMP TRASH already? If not, then somebody needs to make it.
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@@C4MMU5 No.
@@nikopachinko6969 it's funny and it's only one minute long, it also represents what will happen in 10 years to the 90% of us
@@C4MMU5 its not funny
@@nikopachinko6969 You get entertained, I get the views. Everyone wins
Your editing and animation has gotten to be SO GOOD. I just really appreciate you making the 3D mockup of the crime scene appear to be from Drowned God.
Nice baby
@@Somethin_Slix Thanks
i rarely see creepy channels (or true crime/"creepy real life mysteries" media of any kind) that are able to keep up an unsettling atmosphere without portraying the real tragedies you often cover disrespectfully so i rly appreciate ur channel :-) keep up the good work dude
*Local Shetlander here.* I actually live not 15 minutes away from where the incident took place. I was rather young when it all happened so I don't have the best memory of it but I know people that do. From what I can gather, I think the nearby locals were always aware that the whole ordeal was a brutal murder-suicide, not a drug-induced double suicide. Theory went that Harry had bought cannabis to help with his wife's MS and began taking it himself which led to the deaths. But clearly that's wrong if the toxicology report is anything to go off so I guess even the locals weren't fully briefed on what happened. Must have been a huge disconnect between what locals heard and what the news reported.
Beyond that, great video! Surreal to come across one of my favourite RUclipsrs talking about my home isles!
Lol people don’t just smoke weed and then decide to brutally kill themselves and their wife and pets. Interesting anecdote though, thanks for sharing
@@JDizzle785 Yeah, even if the toxicology came back positive for cannabis that would not explain an act like this.
I think the 'friend's stories are a little too convenient.
Its totally not unbelievable for something as simple as cannabis to set off something in someone as mentally ill as him it can really mess with some people lol
@@joedlvr It pretty much never induces violence, though.
@Hudson Hamman
Depending on body weight and amount consumed, THC metabolites can stick around for upto 3 months. The toxicology screen found nothing. The pathogenesis of mental illnesses resulting from even brief exposure to THC is very rare.
Didn’t the “friends” give the most information on the situation? How trustworthy was their jacket story to avoid being investigated?
they were gonna be investigated either way lol. the jacket stuff would not have precluded them from investigation.
It was a Gucci jacket bruh police said oh yea you gotta go back and get that for sure
right.. i really want to know if they were properly investigated. obviously we can't know what happened and maybe he did kill himself and his wife and pets, but it all sounds sketchy. the amount of stab woods pretty much being his age.. not to mention mutilating genitalia is common in lust murder which would also explain killing the wife (jealousy) and killing pets can just be something someone would do to make murder-suicide in this case more believable. and it sounds quite weird that someone forgot their jacket during winter and then came back after everyone's been murdered
@@roza2633
Not to mention the "tonight is a good night for a killing" (or whatever it was) part
That's like, so cringe? What murderer would say that? Aside from movie murders
That's a cringey teen or teen minded murderer thing to get attention
Also, even if he said so, leaving the wall breaker, unpredictable guy that's telling you the time is good to kill while his wife begs for you to stay????
Then come back when you wanted to leave in the first place after all the red flags??????
Leave the jacket in winter time???????????
I don't think they did the crime, but I do think the police told them to not tell everything about it
@@Le_Phantom you’re like 100x more cringe
No matter how disturbed a Nexpo video makes me feel, I'm always instantly comforted by the "I love you all" at the end. Love you too, Nexpo.
how yes big house cow
Right? I feel all warm and comforted.
Cringe
@@thatcher17 Everything is cringe, and people aren't allowed to have feelings.
A side note to self stabbing. It happens but is extremely rare. If I remember the Fresno California self stabbing of the man who said he was being harassed by the Fresno Police department, they stated it would have been almost impossible for him to stab himself so many times. This stabbing takes that statement to a whole new level.
Well people in profession say it takes a hell lot of will and dedication to do this while also battling pain. If your under substance or just unstable enough. Well just few times
Yeah and the 'how was he able to do it' question I immediately answered as just pure adrenaline? I doubt it would be enough for ALL of his stab wounds but I'm sure it's possible?
Depends greatly on what he used -- did he use a great big butcher knife or a little tiny paring knife? Did he stab himself in the heart and lungs or in his lower abdomen - sounded like he was stabbing his groin.
Only ppl ignorant to mental health issues, and what your brain is actually capable of would make such a statement.
Im a nurse that worked several years in a psych hospital.
When a person is truly insane - truly out of their gd mind they are more than capable of acts such as these.
Ive seen ppl in psychosis and delusional do some crazy wild sh*t that most ppl could never even imagine to be possible.
Most ppl are just to scared to admit that our brains are very much capable of turning on us, and I totally understand why some ppl choose to stay in denial on this fact.
Because it IS f'n terrifying to think about what our brains can make us think that's not real, make us see thats not real, make us believe thats not real.
Its terrifying. And the fact is....any one of us are capable of snapping, having a mental break, going insane, losing touch with reality, whatever you choose to call it - we are ALL capable of it if life circumstances hit us just right, get hit with big stresses, big losses, and horrific traumas - our mental strength is only so strong, get hit with enough and our brains shut down, pretty much turning on us.
I personally feel he had lived his life with untreated mental illness, after hearing ppls descriptions of him, and his fits of rage.
Then he lost his dog.
Then his wife that he truly did love, she got a horrible diagnosis, and he was faced with the fact she was going to d*e soon.
And the man couldn't take any more, and he snapped.
When out of your mind, true clinical insanity - you could stab yourself 47 times because your brain isnt receiving and sending signals for you to feel pain.
You could mutilate yourself because again...your not feeling it, and he*l he might not have been aware of what he was doing - psychosis, delusions, hallucinations.....he could've been mutilating his genitals, but he was seeing himself carve a f'n turkey!
And when it came to attacking his wife - at that moment he may not have seen his wife. He might have seen someone completely different, and been hearing things not really being said.
A lot of ppl that have done this once stabilized, medicated, and in their right minds....they'd say that when attacking the person they saw satan, a demon, or a complete stranger that was hurling threats.
Once they are medicated, and back sane - they are often horrified to know what they did, and are truly remorseful.
That's why ppl that are deemed truly insane get away with murder.
Because its not really them committing the acts.
Its like your brain decides it wants to be in charge instead of the body, and it takes over making the person see, hear, feel, and think things that are not real.
But anyway....i commented a really long explanation of how the brain can go nuts, cause a person to do such things, and why i feel he did do it. Its long, but if your interested in a more in depth explanation its there.
@@thinlineofsanity1035 you are so right. All I could think was me... my struggles with bipolar disorder... and what happens when you give anti depressants to bipolar people.
To quote Sherlock, "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth". I'm calling it, It's the two New Zealanders.
Same I'd love to solve this mystery by just saying "Fuck it, it's the two friends"
agreed
Flippin kiwi illuminati masons.
@@Johnnydiamondlonglive Greatest quote of all time
The problem is the blood.
Exsanguinating two adult humans and two house pets is a significant amount of blood, especially given the crime scene description. They would have made a huge mess even if they cleaned up at the scene. They would have left prints. If they left the premises, they would have trailed blood. It would have gotten into their rental car, been left at the hotel. The hotel staff would have certainly given them a second look if they came in looking like they swam in spaghetti-o's. The isle isn't that big, their options to clean themselves, their clothes and the rental would have been limited.
If Richard/Harry was murdered, it was someone else. Someone local, not visitors from half a world away.
I was just thinking about how much I missed Nexpo and now here this video pops up 🥲
Ditto!
Creepy lol
We all collectively had the same thought
Wow
Anyone like tacos? :0
As someone who grew up in Shetland I remember this and the main discussion between everyone on the island was why so little information came out and so little was said on local news. On an island where someone being caught with crumbs of cannabis or getting a speeding ticket or a garden gnome being stolen can be reported on and make the papers the information on this was basically limited to circulating rumours.
That being said most people seemed to understand that this was a murder that was being downplayed and swept under the rug to maintain the islands long standing low to no murder rate. The main selling point of the island is being quiet and safe. Can’t let a little murder get in the way of that. 😅
I still don't understand the motivation. Or how they wouldn't investigate this like the murderer wouldn't strike again. Who possibly could have done it with such a small population... yes, he was a conspiracy guy but his conspiracies were substandard at most and never went beyond anything other than "Aliens and Atlantis". And if you're going to fake a suicide you could do a better job than cutting the dick off.
How did a man stabbing himself, his wife, and pets more than 80 times get mixed up with a couple overdosing on pain killers....
You'd be surprised at how often the media twists stories to make people think what they want them to think about any given story.
Hate to tell you but media is a business, they don't care about facts they care about more viewers and more money
@@jamiepiersefarrell565 an pushing false narratives for political gain
Money AND power
and neither version seems real. Seems like someone wanted to muddy the case as much as possible.
Because the police hadn't yet released any details
Another Nexpo upload LETS GOOOOOO. Spending my night the right way.
How did doki doki feel buddy?
LESS GOOO
Did you guys know there's a new filter in RUclips comments called "timed?"
Dabay car
not sleeping?
I'm not a ME but I think 47 defensive stab wounds vs 47 self-inflicted stab wounds are going to leave very different traces in autopsy.
They tend to, yeah. From what I understand as a non-expert, the direction of the wounds tend to change based on whether the person themself is holding the knife, or someone else else. Also the place on the body. Defensive wounds are often on the outer edges forearms as someone raises their hands to block a weapon.
I'm just chuckling in annoyance as a trans person that there's a bunch of cis people who think "ah, no one could ever mutilate their genitals while not on drugs!" Like, my dude, talk to some people with dysphoria, you'd be surprised.
@@emexdizzy *_chuckles uncomfortably in Chris-chan's taint_*
@@emexdizzy tbf though, if somebody is trying to kill themselves I doubt they'd aim for their dick. Mutilation on it's own is one thing but the intent behind it in this case makes zero sense imo
@@404usernotfound_ I'm just trying to say that I think drawing conclusion one way or the other from the harm done to the genitalia is a shaky case to build, since I can think of at least one reason someone would self-mutilate as well as reasons someone else might do mutilation. Basically that the mutilation is probably best left as a fact of the case instead of something determining he definitely did or definitely didn't do it.
@@emexdizzy is dysphoria exclusive tot trans people?
Getting a real "two self inflicted gunshot wounds to the head" vibe here.
Why is Nexpo’s content so good... we don’t even pay him lol
I mean...SOME of us pay him
I mean technically we are
Because of the effort that he puts so much into with each video he uploads.
@@formerctgovernordannelmall1452 yea those SOME are unsung heroes
ikr
I wish I knew how Amanda told them to stay. Was it a soft, tender, “stay, please.”, or was it like a “please don’t leave me alone with him”
She probably begged them tbh but they don’t want to admit that they left her now that she’s dead :/
@@bishop3119 yeah. Poor thing.
It could have also been a "you guys should stay over!" in a jovial tone, we really just don't know
@@milosh226 that’s what i’m thinking, did she actually say it like “aw man, you guys have to leave so soon? stay here!” and they twisted it as a begging plea so it would pin the blame on her husband?
@@bishop3119 and from what are you concluding that? just your own fantasies apparently... your kinda sick dude
You know I’ve noticed in several videos Nexpo says “that’s a story for another time” maybe that would be a cool idea for a mini series? Kinda like disturbing things around the internet or chronicles of Reddit, except he explains further on those points he made in previous videos.
This!!!
That’s stupid
@@SuperN00bslayer ok "SeriousGaming"
@@SuperN00bslayer :(
I thought the "story for another time" was just teasing future works 🤷♂️
I feel it’s important to note that Amitriptyline is primarily a migraine medication and not often used as an antidepressant. It’s side effects (such as hallucinations) are pretty crazy if you’re already prone to some of them and if he had elevated levels it might’ve been pretty bad. Just thought I’d put that out there.
There's something eerie about him stabbing himself (or being stabbed by someone else) 47 times in what would have been his 47th year of life.
Wow that’s creepy👀
That is what all but confirms it. There is far too much that suggests he did it, and it's simply the police red tape that is keeping the story hidden, since nothing definite proves it.
@@jamesproffitt6304 yeah man i'm _sure_ anyone would think "oh lemme stab myself 47 times since i'm 47 actually that'd be funny haha" in the middle of stabbing themselves! That detail _definitely_ proves he did it!
@@hellothere9520 rofl my thoughts exactly
@@hellothere9520 It's like you never stopped to consider simply telling them that doesn't make sense would've sufficed, you had to go and be a piece of shit about it because you don't know what being a decent human being is. What the dude said isn't right but harms no one, you chose to be a sarcastic asshole and cause offense instead of being calm about it.
Try not being a complete fuckhead next time.
“It’s a great night for killing” bro thats the fakest line ive ever heard aint no way an actual person would say that
Youre right! FYI Harry did not say " IT"S A WONDERFUL NIGHT FOR A KILLING". That's a quote attributed to Charles Manson. It was put out there, through the press by George Williamson, Mandy's father. Oh the irony!
sounds like something mickey would say "HAHA OH BOY ITS A GREAT NIGHT FOR KILLING"
Yeah right!? Plus the thing of one of' em "forget" his jacket so they came back seems ...idk..weird
Also he really last long enough to slash him self a 47 WOUND without losing conscience for the lack of blood. either they exaggerating or there's something weird in the story
oh boy here i go killin again
@Areatrance lol what that doesnt make any sense
I live in Scotland, and I have been to Shetland. And I cannot imagine moving there, it is windswept, desolate, cold and grey. It's completely cut off from the rest of Scotland. I can't imagine the affect of moving there from a busy cultural hub like Edinburgh, would have on someone's mental health.
redrum
It kind of seems peculiar that they decided to move there, given the circumstances then, right? I wonder if they were trying to go off grid to either avoid being tracked down by someone or something? Being that they had company right before all this occurred is even more troubling.. Could those people have sounded the alarm on Harry and Amanda, and revealed their exact location to this mystery entity? Idk lol
@Mario yeah they absolutely don't
@Mario it literally isn't. It's called SHETLAND
@@manueldelush9716 what about shitterton, England
Reads as 'shit', looks like 'shit', thus is percieved as 'shit' in the brain
WHY ISNT DROWNED GOD MORE POPULAR? ITS SO GOOD HONESTLY! I feel like it’s what low poly horror games today aspire to be like. Old games like DG get swept under the rug so quickly just because they’re from the 90’s. It makes me mad to think hidden gems like that go unnoticed
How do you download it safely? I've found a ton of download links but I don't know if I should trust any of them
Probably because no one else has your weird and obscure tastes lol
@@desi2119 weirdcore/internetcore/nostalgiacore, whatever you want to call it is actually really big these days, and I feel like this is prime material for that kind of thing.
Mostly due to the lack of satisfaction in the ending.
How do I play this game? Does anyone know how to safely download it for the newest version of windows? Why is no one playing this game today?
*grits teeth through the pronunciation of edinburgh because of how juicy the story's getting*
I knew Edinburgh was coming and I knew it was going to happen but my stomach still turned
In this case it’s forgivable!
I love Nexpo, but every single time I was like "😬😬😬-- okay it's over" lol
Why "in this case" ?
@@lizhall4473 because our boi is telling us yet another juicy story
Considering their friends reported his erratic behavior and the fact that he was talking about killing that night, and that the wife begged them not to go, is enough reason to conclude Harry went batshit and murdered that poor woman.
Then again the 'friends' might have made this story up .. Like it would make sense why they would make up stuff like harry saying "its a good night for a killing" to pin the blame on him and saying that amanda asked them to stay just to establish themselves as the trustworthy guys in front of the police. Also, i doubt that a man could mutilate his own genitals and stab himself 47 times and stay alive to do it all.
@@ohmpatel4477 oh man I just realized that. We have no way of knowing that that’s what he actually said.
@@ohmpatel4477 That sounds very convincing.
It also sounds like a good story/movie plot about deception like the movie "Inheritance".
How can any man stab himself 47 times in the torso and mutilate his junk? At max he could have stabbed himself 10 times. The pain and blood loss would have killed him right there. It sounds very unrealistic to me....
@@scruffymakaveli6870 exactly, as soon as I heard and he was stabbed 40 times in the arms and chest and his genitals were mutilated, I was like, ok cool so it can’t be him right? Yet everyone is saying it is him, even though no substances came up in the toxicology report. It’s almost certainly the friends.
January 10th, the middle of winter, in Scotland, and they didn’t realise they weren’t wearing a jacket that they arrived in? It would’ve been freezing...
Great observation. There is no such thing as forgetting a jacket in freezing cold weather.
And people pointed out the oddities with the “friends” of the story. Like the dialogue and self-inflicted wounds.
No, it would not have not necessarily "have been freezing". The average temperature of Shetland in January is warmer than you seem to realize. The average high temperature (fahrenheit scale) is 43 degrees and the average low is 37. I can easily see someone forgetting their coat if it was around 40 degrees out.
@@BiggieTrismegistus 40 in Fahrenheit is around 4 degrees Celsius? 0 degrees Celsius is literally considered “freezing” and it can snow at that temperature. So what are you talking about lmao??
@@benh2428 Isn't it absurdly obvious what I was saying? I'll make it clearer for you: 40/4 degrees is not "freezing".
My mum is from Shetland and I went to ask her about Henry and I found out that Amanda was apparently the year above her in school . It’s so tragic what happened to her
5:53 "And walk in the most unnatural manner possible" Bro, that's literally how my grandma walked. They probably just have really bad arthritis in their knees.
grandma’s got arThritiS
I thought of splicers from bioshock
@@CallMeMrBrightsides all that ADAM is bad for their knees
Plug Walk
I'm kinda pissed at the friends who knew he had rage issues, heard him say the murder thing, were begged by Amanda not to leave, and still they left without informing anyone that maybe someone should check on or keep an eye on the couple. I have actually kept an all-night vigil outside of a friend's house for less, worried they were in danger.
Another theory could be the friends made up those points, and murdered the couple for some reason. I just can't imagine leaving people alone after being begged to stay and hearing one of them speak the way they said he did.
I have had family members die from a murder-suicide. This shit can happen to anyone. It is a shame how often people are afraid to stick their nose into a situation, but it could save lives.
It's freaky that even if it had been a suicide pact, it is still not a romantic or lovely story as the media was portraying it. It never is.
Its very suspicious that they were the last to see them alive, first to find them dead AND the people to control the narrative on what happened that night along with his mental state.
They are probably not treated as suspects because there's not enough evidence for it.
A high court judge and a forensic phsycologist believe they were murdered, I believe they are on to something.
The husband does seem like the type of person to abuse his wife and snap, which is awfully convenient.
We only know the couple's behaviour the day before from their "friends" testimony.
The husband stabbed himself 47 times while completely sober, then mutilated his genitals and acomodated himself near his wife before dying.
The door was unlocked, why, where would a dead man go. Did he wanted to be found out?
Was it someone else that didn't lock?
I don't like this case because the murder suicide conclusion is believable, but how the guy killed himself is odd. Among other things.
For all we know, he was a weird guy, and if you have friends that share your interest in mysteries, you know they will tell dark jokes. It's like when you're walking down a dark alley and one of your friends says, 'Hey, looking like a perfect place for a murderer to hide.' Who would have thought they have planned your murder with a person hiding in that alley?
And the friends only come over to visit so it makes sense they think Amanda asking them to stay is just hospitality. They probably didn't think much and were just eager to explore the city in the few days they have. It's probably just in hindsight they realize it was a call for help.
I don't think the friends were the murderers. They were on their way to the airport after all, and if they flew back to New Zealand, any questioning would have been hard to do, they will be much safer. Also, I wonder what kind of grudge would make one go so far as to fly half the globe to kill their friends. If they have that kind of motive, surely the police would have discovered.
There was no evidence that he did anything. They were murdered by a third-party.
@@--.._ I understand where you're coming from, nobody _wants_ to get hurt so there's no shame in that. Some people just have that heroic spark that overrides their self-preservation, and it's not always the best choice to act on that; people definitely get harmed or even lose their life trying to act courageously.
What I would suggest to you though (or anyone else), if you find yourself in that situation where someone definitely seems dangerous and could hurt someone else or themselves, even if you choose to get away from them just find help. Notify someone who has the power to intervene that something bad might happen, even if you don't know for certain but feel strongly that it will.
If it turns out you were mistaken, no harm no foul, as long as they're innocent and you had good reason for being concerned, no party involved should be persecuted (you could probably do this anonymously too FWIW). If you're right though, and you get that help and end up saving someone from danger, you're every bit as virtuous as the person who steps in and stops it from happening.
There's no shame in knowing your limits and getting help from someone who's more capable in that situation. I believe there _is_ shame in knowing that something could happen and being able to safely make a difference, but not even trying -- *that* is what a coward does, running away in itself is not necessarily cowardly.
sometimes I wonder if the internet was an amazing place filled with sunshine and rainbows would it really be interesting to be on the internet? :-0
The internet is filled with odd, creative disturbing and beautiful oddities
@@whydoiexist2180 that’s why I love the internet it is such a wasteland for beautiful content and disturbing content with so much creativity and mysteries from intense forums to RUclips and to many other places.
@@IzzyisCoolz. people often exaggerate the opposite ends of the spectrum people who don't understand it might call it a form of brainwashing people who do use it call it a random funny place
It IS full of sunshine and rainbows... but the clicks for that stuff.... are low
@@IzzyisCoolz. Lol been on the internet for nearly 20 years now and it's just the same old shit over and over. People are mostly boring and unoriginal.
As a Scot who's lived here my whole life I can confirm the legal system is pretty fucked. Love my country and proud to be Scottish, but holy shit do we need to fix that part of it.
I'm English and I can confirm, the injustice system of the entirety of Britain is completely fucked, especially the fascist top hat nation.
One of the detectives probably know the killer and covered it up, the town only has 900 people, wonder if the murder that was similar 15 years ago was ever solved..
Sadly brother that's about every nation states story atm.
i'm hoh (auditory processing issues), and i appreciate the fact you added subtitles :) every since yt removed community cc, almost nobody does them anymore
RUclips REMOVED THEM?!
@@funnylittlecreature Yes, they claimed that they were being abused and used for harassment and that sort of thing. Which, if you open your caption submissions to other languages and don't check if the translation is right, I guess could happen? But otherwise I had never heard of such a thing. It seemed more like YT just wanted to force people to pay for a captioning service, which they conveniently advertised and gave a discount code for in the announcement about discontinuing community captions.
Tab? Or that
The words “but that’s a story for another time” have such an amazing aura
Shoddycasts “The Storyteller” often uses this line after telling a story.
True 😊
If by "amazing" you mean cliche then yes
@@teapoxie4192 To be fair, it being cliche isn’t exactly negative.
@@RubeliteRiver no, it's negative.
definition :
"a saying or remark that is very often made and is therefore not original and not interesting:"
noun
1.
a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought.
You know it's not going to be a good outcome when you slowly fade to black, only to follow it up with a time and a date
Really enjoying your work.
Those friends of theirs must feel really guilty for leaving after the wife begged them to stay.
Maybe they were the ones who killed them. 👀
If a husband said "it's a great night to kill somebody" and the wife begged you not to leave, isn't it irrational and almost negligent to say, "Haha, ok... it's been a blast... y'all have a good night now!" and leave? It almost seems like these statements were made up to frame Harry Horse, if I'm to be honest. It certainly doesn't look good for the mystery guests, whoever they were. 🤔
If the mystery guests were also the ones who'd originally claimed that Harry was on a cocktail of drugs, the toxicology results would be proof that they were lying, and if they were lying about Harry being on drugs, the chances are high that they were lying about everything else.
But... unless there is more information out there that was not presented in this video, everyone would just be guessing about what happened. 🤔
We don't know ANYTHING about them...they could literally be murderers...
@@miguelito2361 Not to mention the door to their house was supposedly open when they found the bodies. Even if it wasn't the friends, clearly it must have been an outsider.
An extreme psychotic break could allow him physically to do this, but that is EXTREMELY rare, and he should've had an episode earlier in life. In psychosis the fear and adrenaline can do wild things, and without antipsychotics it almost always progresses, and he didn't use any street drugs, but the sheer violence makes it all feel like a desperate reach to explain everything.
If this is anything like A Redditor’s Dive Into Turmoil, we are about to have a good time
Hm
@Dharc Daniel spoopy time
My heart broke watching that video. I actually cried.
I honestly didn’t like this video. The story just isn’t really that interesting to me. Now since I didn’t like this video, I’m going to have to wait another month and a half for a new video. Fuck.
You're gonna have a bad time.
The point of the way investigations operate in Scotland is to avoid the media blowing up a story. It's just a shame that journalists felt a need to publish these things without real evidence or backing from the investigators.
When he said: “Let me take you to the beginning” I got an ad talking about human evolution and it started off with “25 million years ago”
no you didn't. Quit lying for "likes"
@@PJ-sv4iw it was an ad for curiosity stream, you can probably find the ad on RUclips if you search for it
The documentary was called First Man if you’re curious
@@PJ-sv4iw bruh why would they lie on such a trivial thing lol
@ P J lol even if they were lying who cares? It’s still funny either way. Why can’t you just accept that?
I can't be the only one here whod absolutely watch a 2 hour nexpo video
lmao that's exactly what I thought. I was like, "uhhh I think most of us would love a two hour long nexpo vid"
I would this video felt short I want more
Gladly
Ah yes sanitarium, garage, myst, and of course the most terrifying, Putt-putt
Hearing sanitarium and putt putt in the same sentence was not something I expected to happen
Truly terrifying
Everyone remembers that time Putt-Putt unleashed a horde of animals from the zoo murdering everyone before massacring the animals themselves!
oh god not putt putt!
I am really upset that everyone thought it was Harry, the friends were sooooo incredibly sus and they got away with it.
"I'm in a living hell" Harry proclaimed calmly 17:50
You could say Silent Hill
Did you put your name in the goblet of fire, Harry?
the amount of work you put in to make these videos beautiful is breathtaking and I soooo appreciate it. Everything always looks so cool. It's like watching an actual netflix show or something.
He’s the only RUclipsr that I have rewatched and rewatched his material. It’s truly art
This is so bizzare to me. I knew the name Harry Horse felt familiar. But it wasn't until you mentioned he wrote children's books that something started coming up in my head, and what made me 100% sure what the mention of the dog named "Ru". Harry Horse's books are literally my childhood. To be exact, the "The Last... " series that was about an old man writing a diary or letters (It differed between books I believe) that were dedicated to his grandson. He would travel to all sorts of crazy places with his beloved companion - A dog. Named "Ru". Yeah. "The Last Gold Diggers". "The Last Polar Bears", "The Last Castaways" and more. I still have these books somewhere on an old dusty bookshelf. I believe the last might've been released around 2004. I would've never thought that the books that basically made me get interested in reading as a kid were written by someone so disturbed. It's kind of shocking. And kinda life changing. These books were, no, ARE still very important to me. And from now on whenever I remember them I'll also remember this video. I might just try and read them now, just to see if Harry's deminishing mental health was captured in there or if he was a true artist who cut himself off from the real world completely while writing his books. I'm conflicted, especially knowing how uncertain and unexplained everything is in this case.
Fuck dude I didn't pick up on that until you mentioned it, The Last Cowboys was the first book I ever chose to read by myself. Ordered it through a scholastic catalogue in primary school and vividly remember that being the first time I was completely drawn in by literature
@@bettinggetter Damn, I'm glad that I'm not alone in that.
So sorry these important parts of your childhood had to be ruined for you like this :/ hope you can still look back on them fondly without them being tainted too much by this
@@gall9had Well, they are still my childhood and I still love these books. It's just that every time I'll look at them now I'll also remember what ultimately happened. It might be sad and messed up, but it won't take away the fun I had with them in the past.
jesus i was already dumbfounded, now i cant imagine how you felt when you connected those dots...
As far as I'm concerned everything he did was a valid way to get to the top. Even though he lied about being a student, he was clearly smart and talented enough to have gotten into those classes anyway. Even though he lied about being an agent, the publishing company thought his book was good enough to publish. Just shows that you pretty much have to pay and know your way to the top even with talent.
"The runtime would be 2 hours long"
Hey, if you want to make that video, I'm all down for it. It'd be better than any documentary on Netflix.
Cringe
He did make a 2.5 hour video on Gemini
aka fucking bone chilling horror
I know that I’m not the only early 2000s kid that was waiting for a good ol’ jump scare with that extra long pause on the windows screen at the beginning 😹
That’s true, I’m always on alert when something like that appears on a video.
okay you can't just tease us with talking about a full version and then not deliver, i'm legit really curious now and i'd love to see more about this
5:04 holy shit! I did NOT expect a reference to the Wayzata Museum of Anything Goes. I was starting to think I was the only person who had that. Wish I still had the cd... There was so much content in that. So cool to see it referenced!
Nexpo uploading a few hours before nightfall is just the best
aha, it's already 9pm over here and it's dark as hell. love that for me.
@@morrisoncore edt gang?
@@morrisoncore same
@@DivineFoxx yeah
It's 6:18pm here :3
Sun is still out