George Cornell knocks out Ronnie Kray!
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2016
- Jewel Thief Lenny Hamilton tells Steve Wraith & Liam Galvin about how George Cornell knocked out Ronnie Kray! Footage supplied by Liam Galvin & Yvette Rowland at www.unlicensedboxing.com/
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In Rons own words he said in an interview.... " cornell threatened to kill me so i thought id do him first... best way in it."
Bet he wanted to do him in another brown 😂😂😂
they never said innit in those days.....he probably said aint it
@@toppertruthio He said this during a late 80s interview in broadmoor which was audio taped. He sounded like he said “in it”
My dear old Nan worked in the blind beggar , when I stayed at her house which was quite often , she noticed I was reading a book on the Krays , she paused looked over the top of her glasses and said George Cornell was a man who most people would avoid if a fight broke out.
Then she said Darren I bet that book won’t tell you that George beat Ronnie up and he made it clear that he would do the pair of them together😂
I thought my Nan was talking rubbish but now we have the internet to look stuff up I guess she was telling me the truth.
Waltzing Matilda they called my Nan Hilda rip still have great memories of my east end Nan and gramps 😘
Your old nan talked as much bullshit as these grandpa's ...they call it Alzheimer nowadays
Hi there! I'm working on a story and I'd like to interview you about your nan's stories if you're willing!
If you watch his videos he tells a different story every time forgets his lies
do you know if they actually had a straightener and if so who Won? ✌️
@@68majortom between him and Ron kray?
Its true mate...everytime its changed...Must be skint
Yeah said he didn’t call him poof in another video as that word wasn’t around then
Yeah Dave zippy Courtney was the ref
This is the geezer that grassed
Any why did he grass? Cause the brave krays threatened to shoot his kids so he thought better to grass and be safe. Watch the Fred dineage documentary on RUclips Lennie says on there I would never of spoken to the police if the twins didn’t threaten my kids he said you don’t grass
@Hammer89 I can only find snippets do you have a link buddy 👍🏻
It’s very easy to tell stories about people who aren’t here to tell a different viewpoint
I've worked in and out of London since the mid 80's, back then it was all the Irish lads on the sites, good fucking grafters they were and boy they could drink mind, i'm a County Durham lad and haven't been down there for around 7 years and to be honest i miss the place. I worked for a man called Kenny Smith out of Hackney the last time i was in there, he was born in Millwall, proper Cockney boy, he knew all the shady men and even took me and my lads to the old haunts where the Krays hung out, even Palici's cafe in Bethnal Green for dinners. All the East end lads always seemed to get the round in with 50 pound notes and wouldn't let you buy them one back, salt of the fucking earth they were and really looked after us. The pub called the Nelson on the Isle of Dogs i remember, we worked on the main road there, Queensferry road i think. Total shame what our proud capital looks like now, of course the government are to blame for flooding the country with millions of fucking strangers, 3rd of a million last year alone, fucking ruined!
andy mane Nah not really. Just that Ashkenazi Jews and Gypsies (Irish ones) tend to blend better into the background...
andy mane Why, what have you said...? Been to Stamford Hill at all...? Fact is that Jews, Gypsies and Irish can have a drink doen the pub : great British pastime. And because they blended in better meant that tbe existing population in whatever area were less likely to scarper and you had more mixing. How many areas in South London changed demographics during 50s and 60s...?
Slashley gibbins fck off
@Teh Reaper Of course they are, Millwall is on the Isle of Dogs!
Fackin' ell.
Every time I see this geeza he tells a different story 😂
@@jimbo6693 I'd tell him people who glorify these scum are the real mugs.
@@jimbo6693 you do know this grass is well known in the area for being exactly that. He was an absolute wet wipe. He was nothing but a go for, hang around.
I love this channel it's an education
'A fight on the cobbles by the fish market'...sounds like a nice night out.
Bet you someone got battered
@@martynprice87 and kicked in the cods
@@alanfizzypop9607 good one 🐟🐟🐟
Plaice was a right state.
@Dan Davis walked by your cod shop the other day. Massive fight! Saw a cod get battered
Years ago a friend took me to the Blind Beggar; he had been a child in the Krays ‘manor’…we are the same age; 67. He informed me that if all the bullshitters who reckoned they had been present actually had been, then they would have filled Wembley Stadium…🤣
Brilliant !
It's fascinating listening to all these old stories. Imagine if these characters were actually true .
Old old school are now coming out with their stories now the last kray is dead. Lol.
its their stories. theyre allowed to talk bout em of they want
Both Ron and Reg were just over 5 ft 7 inches ... but like my mrs says .. size isn't everything :)
Then I feel sorry for your dad
5 9
"Welcome to Road Safety with Lenny, now remember kids before you cross the road look left, look right, then I see these two pokers on the stove..."
Love all these Kray fans!!!! Modern day fantasists.
More like old bear stories
The twins who liked Young boys.. Now days a couple of young black boys would sort them out..
How do you know they are fantasists?
@@carlhamilton8531 he's another keyboard warrior mate, Internet is full of them. Most probably a virgin living with his mother. 👍
@Thomas Shelby no fooking fighting
Living in London is bad enough ,but to be one of these guys as well ,must have been a nightmare existence
Dirty dripping slices....yeah good old days !
keep em coming, liam!
Will do cheers!
yea,pull the other one len,i can just see it,george knocks ron down,and ron gets up and says oh fair enough len,see you next week and walks away, do me a favour.
Toasted drippin' slices and a mug of tea.
yum...
Seems a few people in the comments don't like it that Ronnie got his arse kicked in fair fight and then resorted to cowardly tactics.
Ronnie was a psycho , Reggie was a way better street fighter!
Scare tactics more like a warning to other wannabe gangsters like Cornell. Oh and I like the way he didn't pick on Reggie the harder out the brothers
@@davivbrightonby all accounts, Ronnie was the more unhinged and dangerous in a street fight because he would stop at nothing, and was happy to use hammers, baseball bats, broken bottles, bike chains or anything else he could get his hands on.
Reggie was the better boxer and less likely to use weapons other than his bare hands, although he was not adverse to using knives, etc, he was considered the less aggressive of the two.
Rumour has it he hasn’t brushed his teeth since last seeing the twins.
He brushed his teeth with shit
@@sybennett1179 😂😂😂
@@paultaylor1019 do u stay in Carlisle
@Dan yeah with fish guts
Cornell grew up with the twins they fell out when he met a bird and move over the water
People forget that these gangsters terrorised people for a living. I've seen people say 30 years was too much for the krays sentence, but one things for sure. Had they have had less time inside, it would have been more time and opportunity to go back to a life of extorting innocent people. So good riddence to the pair of them.
How come people make out the Krays always stuck up for the defenceless!? I wonder what they were actually like.
They'd have been murdered by other gangsters if they'd have been out.
They're eulogised by immature low level criminal types. Wannabe tough morons.
they were fighting over whos handbag was nicer
How many times did he say Georgie Cornell
someone who was a lot closer to the twins than you was., has said in is book,that, that never would have happened,but it is still 2to1 in your favour because billy Webb,(running with the krays) has said the same thing i.would be interested in any more info on the subject
I wish he'd said "yes Ron,that!"
😂😂😂
why have people always got a tale to tell when someone is dead , the krays only harmed people who wanted to harm them .
mary poppins
So the guy who happened to mention that Ron had put on some weight, and got his face slashed open for it, how was he trying to hurt the twins?
Or the young lads that were threatened into becoming rent boys?
Or the businessmen forced to pay protection, or suffer a beating and damage to their property?
People don't inspire the level of fear achieved by the Krays by only hurting those who wanted to hurt them.
They were more than willing to hurt anyone in order to get what they wanted.
oh dear, u buy into all tht XD
The krays were bullies . Anyone can walk around tooled up and slash someone across the face . That's not a tough guy that's a coward in my book
Paul towey reg only used tools on blind beggar 2 gold. KNUCKLE dusters against rivals off their turf
They used there fist most the time, only when it was a few of them against them they used tools
They were good fighters especially reggie he could've gone professional but got in trouble with the law ie arson and ronnie got done for gbh at just 15
@Craig Johnson fucking right
@Craig Johnson well said mate I fucking hate nonces.. I'm right wing mate I say bring back hanging for anyone who rapes woman or children.
Legend has it Ronnie and Reggie were a pair of puffs .
@@mcdinkity Don't get lemon pal it doesn't suit you.
Really. Wow thanks for that, nobody knew til you just told us.
100%..
Legend has it , you get hard just thinking about that!
A pair of puffs that would beat your ass lol
Wasn't knocking anyone out after that night in the pub tho was he
I love it how they slag off the krays now,they were petrified of them in the 60s it's easy to slag off the dead. Two legends in my eyes
Mark kinrade: so you hero worship a rapist nonce and kid traffickers ?
@@NuevoExistence u are deluded its both true and provable
@@NuevoExistence are you gonna tell me he never provided young boys for lord boothby? U are in denial !
Agree with ya Mark...
Really ? They feared by some but not everyone
Think this guy got George tattooed on his right ass cheek
No, I don't think he even owns a donkey.
So many stories slags the Krays off after they are Dead, how many would slag them if they were still alive
I’m from the United States but I don’t recognize the language you guys speak in London, I need subtitles.
Stupid yank where do you think you got your language from.
Someone start a go fund me to get him branded again .
Candytwirlstv
Brilliant, love it.
Lenny think up another story every ones heard this one a thousand times
George didn't call him a 'puff' Ronnie said 'he never called me a puff he said he would kill me so I did it first' In a interview.
when i lived in the East End in the early 90s,i knew someone who had lived just round the corner from the Krays and he said about Cornell beating Ronnie up.Interestingly he also said it was "scotch"Jack Dickson who put the idea of murder in Ronnies head.He drove Ron to the Blind Beggar.Apparently Dickson was hated in the East End as he used his connection to the Krays to terrorise ordinary people.In Tony Lambrianous book he says the same thing.But as they are all dead i dont supoose we will ever really know
Right because he is as honest as the day is long and wouldn't tell lies now, would he?
I heard Ron said he was drunk when he had a fight with George. Therefore he shot George for taking a liberty.
I live in a 4 bedroom semi detached in Farnborough village Kent, not too far from Biggin hill airport
i believe this guy...dont give a shit what anyone else thinks
London East End........Middle East End.....Sigh what has my country become.
Exile 89 And before that the Israel-east end...
That's the price you pay for siding with the juwes who despise and resent you
Londanistan, complete shit hole. 🤦♂️
I spent one of the best years of my life as a student in London. I fervently hope that Speaker's Corner will still be there in 2100.
paranoid and xenophobic it seems
Love to you all
Yeah right. He f***ing wishes ...!
Cornell was a big bloke and tidy with his fists.
Brown Bear pub???
What dvd is this from?
Bits of this interview can be seen on 'The Ultimate Gangster Dvd' (on amazon) cheers
Cheers really appreciate that - I have a go!
Yeah I agree good stuff
It was because George wouldnt show Ron his sausage
🤣😂🤣😂
All this murder and mayhem over some pickled onions and a few jellied eels...
Salt of the earth those cockernees. I was in the brown bear that night. I was also in the blind beggar when Ronnie did Georgie
Should of got involved.
i was once in a bus going down the street in Fulham when an episode of Minder was being filmed.
I always wonder how the Kray's/Richardson's would do up against Roy DeMeo and the Gemini lounge crew from the Gambino's.
Not very good
😂😂😂
English gangster cheerleaders have always got ideas above their stations loooooooool Roy De Meo would have walked into Ron and Reggie's mum's house himself , sat at the table and ate the dinner off Ron and Reggie's plates and smashed the plates over their fucking heads and they wouldn't have done a thing about it . You're an absolute maniac for even comparing the two here. Any murders the Krays needed done they got Arthur Thompson from Glasgow to bring his boys to do them. In return Arthur got to muscle in on pubs and clubs .
Or Jimmy Conway and his crew
Like comparing apples and oranges. De Meo was well protected and could do just about anything if Nino approved. The Krays on the other hand we’re street fighters who didn’t kill lots like murder machine but held their own.
Ronnie got knocked clean out serves him right 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great, another story about Ronnie Kray after his Death. Why are all you so called gangsters coming out with your stories now that the Kray Twins are not around. I never, ever heard any of these stories when they were still alive. So why are they all being told now that there are gone...? Mmmmmmm.
Probably due to being able to act on the information if they were still alive, as well as no doubt not having to be worried about being a "grass" now by any sensible people.
Who cares.. they're all scum, the lot of em, krays included!
fuk the krays
CamperMan2018 camperwanker 😂 are you a fanboy who refuses to believe any story which doesn’t perpetuate the myth
Bill Patrick Jones come up to Scotland where there's loads of men about that will always fight to the end after people know that you don't give a fuck who you are in jail you still get lads running drugs and ruling the place but even they know the real hard basterd just leave then do to there time now
Anyone can tell any old bullshit when the person ain't there
His making it up as he goes along
As with so many of these stories, there is probably some truth in it but Lenny liked to embellish it to make it more dramatic. I would put money on it that Cornell didn't knock Reggie out, and he probably wasn't there when Cornell called him a poof. And he probably didn't knock up 'a bird he was with' lol. That seemed like the icing on the cake for his story that he couldn't resist.
@Dan Davis more like cobblers than cobbles
Sounds like Bricktop
It was obvious Cornell would cane Ron in a straightner.
Well he was not straight for a start
Ronnie Kray was a pro boxer
@@davidfitzgerald4683 pro boxer but quite a size discrepancy as he fought at 135 and Reg was the more talented boxer too.
@@davidfitzgerald4683 no he wasnt. he did a few fights wen he was young, (like most gangsters) and got his arse handed to him lol! Reggie was better but still packed it in pretty early
@@davidfitzgerald4683 didn’t go pro due to his criminal record and all the gangsters back then could box
That George Cornell e could ave a row and no mistake
Are u sure the pub wasnt called the big liar
thought the pub was called the blind beggar?
bowler8 - it's a totally different event on a totally different day in a totally different pub.
Think that`s where Jack the Hat was butchered.
Phil Hewitt jack the hat was killed in a woman's house in there area, she went on to grass on the krays!
@@johnclegg4993 i like your reply...it's...different.
@@philhewitt5069 No, that was Evering Road. Stoke Newington.
At least Cornell weren't an arse poker.....he batted straight so I'm with him
Bit harsh.
Grow up. Your a mug
I bet you love it up the chuff Ray
Are you from the 50s or something?
What ...Dead
A loooota shit went down at the fish market
Campermany2018. Your right the Krays were the boys thts why people mug the twins of now, they ain't got a pair between em to mug em off
The PC police will explode at hearing this. Lol
cornell beat ronnie at tiddlywinks and thats how it started i was there
Brown bear... Blind Beggar mate Blind Beggar. LMFAO 😅😅
jack Walsh ...the brown bear is in Whitechapel
jack Walsh - he is not on about the shooting for fucks sake - on about the event previous that led to the shooting - which happened in a different pub - is it that hard to understand? 😂
tuff guys...talkin sh@# after their dead.
To much time in the air raid shelters has made for some real pork pies.
I remember one time down the, fuck off Uncle Albert.
Wonder if Ronnie was sat next to mr grass imagine his face
I thought it was just a lovers tiff (2 quares falling out )
Krays got arses kicked out of Manchester
Given how protective the twins were of eachother, i doubt Reggie would have ignored the fact that Cornell had given his brother a beating especially when he saw Ron battered and bruised. Right or wrong the Krays had a reputation to uphold and having their rivals 'muscle' drop one of the Krays i doubt it would have been left to Ronnie to sort it out. Rumours would have been all over the Eastend that the Krays weren't invincible and rival criminals would have taken liberties.
I think Reggie was a bit more tactical & probably said to his brother wait your time.
And he did...
Instead of interviewing the gangster, try and get the cops that arrested them, they'll let you know who the grasses are.
behave. those cops r just as bent
Us this the geezer Frankie Frazer practiced on with his pliers ?
No but he should have
Who is this ?
Thanks for the information I thought he was someone who had said hello to the twins and knew everything we have these people in Sheffield who know someone who knows someone and it's all hear say but you certainly know your stuff
Aah I remember Georgie well ; he 'ad such lovely eye-lashes!
Who runs the east end now the Africans or the Muslims
The hipsters
Garry C
you are true my friend us British people are going to be made extinct I called my doctors today for an appointment and they told me it would be the 16th of December that's over a month to see a doctor,, if it carries on like this in about 20 years us brits will be searching around for ourselves to live and we will become imegreants even tho we made our own country and what our fathers and grandfather's and so on did so great Britain could be a good home for us British and our children has all gone we have been politicaly envaided and our own government let it happen and our children and their children will suffer so much it's not fair it really isn't
Phil and grant Mitchell lol
CAVERN1234 what's funny mupet
Is that you peggy MUM
Who is ?
From the Kray Twins site: Leonard Hamilton was a jewel thief and safe breaker. A well-known character in the East End, he is perhaps most regarded for being the man Ronnie Kray branded with red-hot pokers in 1962 after an argument regarding a Kray associate's daughter.
He worked on Harry Abraham's Firm before becoming a driver for Alan Bruce Cooper and also worked as a valet and a batman for a member of a payroll team, and also an occasional jewel thief and safe breaker. A frequent critic of the twins, he appeared in many documentaries and interviews discussing the poker incident, which he claimed left him partially blind in one eye.
NO RON NOT THAT!
I wonder how a fight between Dave Courtney and Lenny McLean would've gone down.
+MrDanybe Courtney would've battered the twins and the Richardsons all at the same time.
Brecconable Lenny sparred with Courtney back In the day, he caught Courtney with a punch one day and ended his boxing career. True story, look it up
Pokers on the gas stove.
Keith Kent I had Fick curly hair back then!
My old man would done them all...
Really...
Looool yeh up da bum
@Pappy Tron LOL
Who was your old man then
Ronnie Pickering
Sparked the batty boy out
Funny how allot of people have stories about when so and so knocked 1 of the twins out when the twins ain't around anymore. They ruled the east end for a reason.
yawn. these ppl been sayin this stuff fr years
I've always been fascinated by these stories but truth is you'll never really no what went on as you can't trust any of these old geezers, they wouldn't no the truth if it fell on them.
Reg Kray and his boyfriend got sparked out in Maidstone lads in other nicks still talk about it i know who did it well
He always slays the twins...now they are dead !!!
well they did attack him with a poker..........
Fuck I thought it was gonna show a fight
who. do you mean George Myers hair? lol
Old Lenny was a first class liar who wouldn't know the truth if it knocked him out lol !! He was some man......
There all losers and liars , but we all find them strangely fascinating
I seen I'm slap three people in the face with a a fifty pound cod daan at the fish market. Then 'e sat daan 'n ad a plate of bread n drippin' and a mug o' tea. This man's a born raconteur.
Even if this was true didn't do him any good in the long run did it
Completely incomprehensible
Good old hot poker Hamilton
Just made a video on this 😊
👊🏼
It's actually true George hammered Ronnie and Ronnie was never going to have another straightener so he shot him instead..
Was you there when they was fighting?
George Cornell legend
Phil Mitchell V George Cornell
Stone cold steve Austin lol
This cappin 🧢
Which one was Cliff Richards boyfriend ?
Ronnie. It's funny, I think it was Eric Mason (could be wrong) who said they came across Cliff in a pub one night and Ronnie took a shine to him, wanting to know who he was. That story ends with a claim they kept Ronnie away from him but I'm not so sure, given the fact we know Ronnie and Cliff wrote to each other when Ronnie was in prison. Like so much else to do with Cliff Richard, I reckon there is a lot of untold stuff to do with that, and we will probably never know the whole truth.
@Dan Davis LOL probably
all of them were pure bell ends