Diamond DA62, IFR Flight Training, EDMQ to Augsburg (EDMA), full flight
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2020
- Full flight with the brand new DA62 from Genderkingen EDMQ to Augsburg EDMA. IFR training with digital coupled go-around (new Garmin 1000 NXi feature) and high-speed approach with full stop landing afterwards. Watch Markus' great parking procedure at the very end of the video - open air line up on the center line :)
Pilot: Markus Riedel
Registration: D-IODE, serial number 113
First time filming with iPhone 11 Pro - using wide angle and zoom features in a pretty unprofessional mode - sorry for this ;-)
(no ATC recorded , it is prohibited in Germany)
Thank you for leaving the engine sounds and not putting music in your videos. These are by far the best DA62 videos on RUclips.....(maybe only tied with the delivery flight across the Atlantic series by Diamond themselves 🙂)
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!
but why is it so noisy?
So, what did I learn from this flight demonstration. 1. The engines were running and best I could tell, they were in sink. 2. I also learned that without the proper headgear, you can't hear a darn thing, unlike the Cessna 150, 172, 182, 206, never fly the Diamond DA62 without the proper headgear( I think I said that twice because my ears are still ringing) Come on guys, you screwed up this video. You should have deleated this video and recorded a new one with the cameras sinked to the aircraft camera input and output..Represent Diamond Aircraft to the professionalism it deserves, because you missed it in this video along with an unapologetic attitude. You failed as professional pilots also in the arena of communication, again because no-one could hear you! Doesn't it say in your preflight to remove all distractions?
Clearly the guys above talking about how loud it is have never actually flown on one....the diamond is very quiet for a twin.....
@@theSaxman5 Thx for your detailed comment! Well this video wasn't supposed to be a lesson for potential Diamond clients. And you obviously don't know that ATC-recording and publishing is not permitted in Germany! The engines' sound in all my videos is by far louder than in reality - thanks to the iPhone's highly sensitive microphone. There are enough comments on the noise levels proving the low noise level inside a DA62 cabin - and believe me, we have flown all the Cessna types you mentioned long before my son in law purchased this new DA62 ...
From France, very Nice video . Thank you for sharing. Thank you to let us hear the engine noise. No boring music is a good idea.
This is great. My son just completed his commercial license and multi engine instrument rating on the DA 42. He’d love to get in the 62. Loves these aircraft.
Those engines sound amazing
That landing was Butter!
Hallo Wolfgang, vielen Dank für all die tollen DA62-Videos. Super Qualität, tolle Flüge. Vielen Dank fürs Teilen :D (und ein mega geiler Flieger, alter Schwede… manchmal muss Neid einfach gestattet sein…)
Hi Marc, vielen Dank für deinen positiven Kommentar! Freut mich sehr, wenn meine Flugbegeisterung auf verwandte Seelen trifft ;-)
Awesome video. This is like real "reality tv". Loved every minute of. The DA62 is definitely my favorite in its class.
THX Ronald! Appreciate your comment.
C'est vraiment la grande classe 👌😉
Great job 👍
beautiful bird.... enjoy it :))
Fantastic landing!! Hard to get those every time!
Well - with a DA62 it is probably not SO hard! You can control her very accurately due to the push rods control system and you have a trailing-link gear for smooth touch downs :-)
Wolfgang Karner I think those people talking about noise are trolls or trying to push some kind of agenda about DA62 being loud. I have seen similar comments on other DA62 videos. Anyone who has ever flown a single piston or a twin can tell you they are much louder. Even a small aircraft like Cessna 172 or Piper Warrior are much louder because they are old and manufacturers did not care much about the noise back then. DA62 is much more efficient than many other new planes not to mention there are not that many piston twins in production nowadays. A lot of folks are stuck with the technology of the 40s and 50s with carbureted aircooled horizontally-opposed engines. So I think because DA62 is new and efficient people are trying to find anything to say something bad about it. Also it is very interesting to see that now most popular single engine turbine airplanes are made in Europe by Pilatus and Daher TBM. And now it appears the Diamond can also gain popularity because being very efficient, safe and hi-tech.
I totally agree with your technical explanations - but it is really hard to hear for anyone how load or quiet it is on a video tape ... it's also a matter of recording :)
Who is here because of flight simulator 2020 my favorite plane in the whole sim
Yup, same, love the plane. It's super windy here in Prague so I enabled live weather and flew Prage>Innsbruck>Nuremberg>Prague
Did a little flight with it today in FS2020 and fell in love with the airplane. Its so sleek and gorgeous!
@@ArsenAl-zorK The difficulty is good for a newer sim player like myself. It's been my favorite so far as well.
Yep. Same here. She's a beauty and I enjoy flying her more than any other in the sim.
What are all the accessories one needs with FS2020?
Really one of the best videos. Now just hold the camera steady. Thanks for not adding music, those engines are the music.
THX, appreciate your comment! I wish it would be easy to hold the camera steady when then plane flies through turbulent air. Just look at the horizon and you will see that the camera is pretty steady but the plane is shaking ... My bigger problem was to handle that new iPhone's zoom features ;-)
Hello Mr. Wolfgang, thanks so much for your videos. I love the Painting schemes as well. May i know the reason why the wings of DA62 is always left to have a silver or white color? Why could it not be painted in the same scheme as the body and the top part of the Engine? What is the name and the color code of the top part of the body of your Beautiful DA62?
My dream aircraft
Im so jeaulous!!! hahhah Great job!!
video will be useful if photo taken was much better. it was zoom in/out instantly untill cannt notice anything usefull
I love thst plane
Also deine vislhofen Platzrunde hat mich echt zur DA62 gebracht, fliege jetzt ziemlich oft im MSFS damit. Scheint ein gutes Allround Flugzeug zu sein, Sgt. Moritz habe ich auch versucht, aber nicht genau den Flugplatz gefunden. Ich würde real mit dir fliegen :)
Hi Gary! Cool dass dir der Flieger gefällt - ist ja wirklich das modernste und beste Teil seiner Klasse. Die Flugeigenschaften und die GARMIN1000 Features im MSFS sind leider nicht sonderlich deckungsgleich mit der realen DA62 - aber man kriegt schon einen Eindruck. Der Platz in Sankt Moritz heißt SAMEDAN (LFZS) und ist im MSFS enthalten ;-)
VERY GOOD👍👍👍😎
THX ;-)
The aircraft fits you like a glove , how tall are you Markus?
How fast is the plane before it takes off on the runway
The DA62' rotation speed "Vr" (depending on the take off weight, runway elevation, outside air temperature, ...) is about 75 kts indicated airspeed with a TAKE OFF flap setting :-)
Why do you have the rudder trim cranked over so hard?
It only seems to be trimmed to the right. You have to check the red line in the indicator scale above the knob. When the rudder is totally neutral, the top trim knobs cap still looks like you see it in the video. Maybe we should "repair" this next time in maintenance ;-)
What is the real difference with the DA42?
The DA42 is certified for four people, the DA62 is a 7 seater and therefore a bigger aircraft. The DA62 is much more comfortable, more quiet despite stronger engines (2 x 168 hp/2 x 180 hp). The DA62 has higher criusing speeds, better climb rates, improved efficiency, new double doors, improved interior and
soundproofing, a more robust retractable undercarriage and the very latest Garmin 1000 NXi system, supported by a new flight envelope protection system, and many more improvements ...
Very good video. I love diamond, i would love to own such a plane at some time!
Noisy as hell
No, your impression is incorrect. Compared to any other single or twin engine piston aircraft, the DA62 is really quiet. As you can not liston to any ATC you only hear the dominant iPhone's sensitive microphone recordings ...
Great video, very genuine : no editing nor music.
Quick question, @21:40, was that an actual go-around procedure (which seems surprising as the localiser was intercepted and the glide slope was good), or was it part of the training exercise?
THX for your question! The go-around was part of the training. The DA62 provides a "go-around" button on the throttle lever and we were testing how the autopilot is performing the procedure (altitude and go-around track) ... :-)
What watch is that? 07:25
Zenith Chronomaster ;-)
Why the 360 before the localizer intercept?
because there was some slow VFR traffic in the pattern to land ahead of us ;-)
Your/Markus thoughts of the DA62 on the new FS2020 (flying the DA62 ingame) would be amazing to hear!
Thx for asking and sorry for the delay. First impression: Fantastic! We haven't had time to get into the details, but the handling of the DA62 seems to be close to reality - after a bit adjusting work to the joystick sensitivity ... we also haven't yet checked the Garmin functionality ... more to come a bit later on :-)
@@wolfgangkarner this sounds awesome! :)
Now I checked out the DA62 in the new FS2020. My first impression from the visual part is great! But the technical modelling of the plane isn't realistic in many ways. There is still a lot of improvement to do. It begins with the enormous power you need in the sim to get the plane rolling. In reality your power setting will be less than 20 percent to get the DA62 going. Next crazy thing is the take off roll in the sim. The acceleration in reality is pretty strong - as soon as you release the breakes after setting the take off power to 100 percent the DA62 really "jumps" forward and it takes less than 20 seconds to get the plane up in the air. In the new MS Flightsimulator it takes much longer. The other curious thing is the climb rate. Here the sim performs much better than the real DA62 where you climb out with a maximum rate of 1250ft per minute. Things like the sensitivity of the controls and stability in flight aren't too realistic too ... I hope for some improvement :-)
wonder why germany states no recording of atc when the plane does it itself ,, Garmin G1000® NXi | Integrated Flight Deck.
It automatically captures incoming comm audio so you can replay anything you've missed
it is more about publishing than about recording ... "privacy" and dta protection is a big deal in Europe ... I think a good attitude but in aviation not very helpfull
Wondering if they can actually fly the airplane - seems to be mainly programming
Paul, of course IFR flying mainly is done by the autopilot and therefore you have to do a lot of accurate programming - but I assure you, Markus is a great pilot and he CAN hand fly his brand new airplane! Watch his landings skills during heavy weather (wind +35 kts and severe turbulance) in his former DA42 - you see Markus is flying manually :)
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Why with state of the art avionics do pilots need I pads? I don’t get it
1) Many pilots are using an iPad instead of the classic clipboard to write down ATC information like IFR clearence or routing instructions etc.
2) You are using flight planning software like "GARMIN Pilot" for your flight preparation at home and transfering data into the GARMIN 1000.
3) It is very helpfull to have additional situational awareness information during flight for approach planning, checking airprort charts etc, without changing views of the navigation charts on your MFD ...
I recommend to check modern airliner cockpits were you can see at least 3 displays for each pilot ... it really makes sense :)
Wolfgang Karner got it thank you !!
@@wolfgangkarner spot on! May I ask, is that an ipod mini or air? Just trying to gwt an idea of practical size, Thanks
@@JB-tc8el Hi J B .... it's an iPad Mini ;-)
Really quite astonishing how loud it actually is inside the plane when no noise cancelling is activated on the mics. Always thought choppers were the loudest, but this...
No, in reality it is definitely not as loud as it appears on the video. The noise comes mainly from the iPhone's microphone sensitivity. Every Cessna e. G. is much louder than a DA62 and you can talk to someone next to you without a headset without any problems ... no big deal ...
@@wolfgangkarner thank you 🙏
@@robertw.1499 my pleasure ;-)
Moin, wie heißt denn die Halterung fürs iPad?
Hi Christian! Das iPad Mini ist auf ein "RAM-HOL-TAB3U" montiert. Welcher "Double Ball Mount" dafür verwendet wird, weiß ich auswendig leider nicht ...
@@wolfgangkarner Super danke! Dann schaue ich mal was Google so sagt. Kann man die DA62 bei Euch auch mal probe fliegen?
@@christianwe9151 Sorry für die späte Reaktion. Eher schwierig - gerade unter Corona ... der Flieger steht in EDMA, gehört zu einem Drittel meinem Schwiegersohn und wird nur privat - vorwiegend für Weekend-Trips und Urlaubsreisen genutzt ...
is there a simulation training for that before the actual flying training with the certified flight instructor?
@Mico, in this case Markus carried out this trainings session without previous simulations and without a flight instructor - simply to keep up his skills and getting more adapted and used to his brand new DA62. It takes a while to get really familiar with the specific improvements of the new Garmin 1000 NXi and other characteristics of this plane. Of course you always check out the new features in advance and you do a lot of theortical preparation before : )
when I finish my ppl,cpl,multiple engine rating within 2 years I will buy myself DA62. im a filipino from the philippines. by that time comes im the only filipino who will have that aircraft. the only aircraft we have here for hobbyist is the cessna 152 and 172.
@@micomarinas2753 Mico never forget: You don't have to buy a cow if you want to have a glas of milk :)) ... It is probably smarter to rent an aircraft except you really fly many hundreds hours a year ...
Really like that there is no background music playing and most of the flight was recorded. The negatives, please mount the camera and stop constantly jerking it around the cockpit and panel. it is nice to show inside and outside views but, stop the quick zoom in and outs.And, ATC audio would have been nice as mentioned earlier. Otherwise, good clip!
Thx Gary, appreciate your comment. Unfortunately ATC recording is prohibited in Germany. This was my first attempt of the highly acclaimed iPhone11pro's video camera ... so my camera work really is poor but imounting the camera at one certain spot you could not read the Garmin1000nxi displays - therefore it's a compromise of course ...
I was unaware of that restriction. Understood.
Best cash price? May pull the trigger on one..... biz parter is a retired 32 year AA Captain. Swears by this twin for safety and efficiency. So maybe grab one. Where can we take a test flight? Thanks Wolfgang. Danke. Arbeit Hamburg, Spain, Copenhagen. Travel a lot throughout EU. And the States.
Hi Peter, I'm sure you would enjoy the DA62 enormously. There is nothing better on the market concerning safety, efficiency, performance, handling amenities and design quality etc. ... For the brand new, well equipped aircraft you have to expect a price around 1,2 Million Euros - plus VAT ... Just ring up Diamond Aircraft at their Headquarters in Wiener Neustadt, Austria. They certainly will offer you free test rides!
Why still SkyDemon if you have a G1000?
Coen, Markus is using "GARMIN Pilot" as second navigation tool. It is very helpful to have charts and additional features available for planning purposes while maintaing situational awareness in real time (current flightplan, radar in heavy weather and so on). You ever saw a modern airliner cockpit with multiple flight displays? It is quite simular.
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Schade! Ich hab mir soviel Mühe gegeben und du hast es bemerkt :(
It would have been better if we could hear the conversation
You are absolutly right Gary, but it is not allowed to record ATC in Germany.
It's a beautiful aircraft but It sounds loud, really loud, I've been in helicopters that sound quieter.
Well, it is not really quiet during high revolution engine sequences but the recorded loudness is definitely caused by the iPhone's microphone sensitivity. I did not connect the recording with ATC communication so you only hear the cabin noise. Pilots and passengers normally wear headsets anyway. Every helicopter is much louder than a DA62 for sure.
It's a twin piston. You ride in them with a head set.
Nobody is getting that without a Bose headset. These engines are dead quiet compared to most pistons.
@@brandonadams7837 Absolutely correct!
Agree, very loud, may be because of the diesel engines, love the joy stick, fighter jet concept
want one bad
Earplugs?
Noise cancelling headsets ;-)
What climb rate , IAS, TAS, altitude and just about everything else you usually get.
Noise and a wobbling camera ……I gave up !
You know, for a few bucks, you can get audio cables for your headsets.
Unfortunately ATC recording is not allowed in Germany. Our data protection laws sometimes go to far in this country. Your are not allowed to record and PUBLISH someone's words without his permission ...
Superenalotto
Wenn man die Instrumente ablesen könnte wäre es ein zwar zu langes, aber tolles Video
Man kann die Instrumente ablesen!!! Großen Bildschirm verwenden und bei Bedarf die Pause-Taste drücken. Der Flug war eben so lang wie das Video - nebenbei: Für einen (fast) IFR-Flug mit Go-Around war das eine Akkord-Veranstaltung ... unter uns Schlaumeiern ;-)
Wolfgang Karner Na klar, aber die meisten Abrufe erfolgen doch über Smartphones und Tablets. Ein gelegentlicher Zoom auf das PFD / MFD wäre halt für „Schlaumeier“ schon interessant... Steigraten, IAS, Motorleistung, Verbrauch, Approach Charts, etc.
@@berndlberndl6054 Lieber Berndl, das ist alles vorhanden - aber es ist eben wirklich ein größerer Bildschirm als ein Smartphone notwendig ... probier's :-)
nicht so weit rauslehnen,sonst ist der Kopf ab.
too much NVH cabin noise
The iPhones microphone is highly sensitive ... therefore the noise seems to be louder than in reality. Fact: very Cessna 172 etc is much louder ...
This video was of no value to the viewer.
Maybe this video was worthless to YOU, but it is liked and interesting for those very many who know about flying - especially for those with knowledge about IFR and the GARMIN1000NXi avionics ...
@@wolfgangkarner - I am a pilot and I know the GARMIN. All I saw was no audio and just a undetailed view of the avionics. Did not see the airspeed, ILS, plates etc. So what's the point?
@@shahidahsan6507 Okay, first: Unfortunately recording/publishing of ATC is not allowed in Germany. And of course all details and indications on the avionics are clearly visible - maybe you didn't select the highest resolution of the video - otherwiese you easily could read the instruments, charts and settings ... I recommend to use a big monitor to watch it. And in the subtext you can read the purpose and the sequences of the IFR training
Boring!!
I'm sure, you must fly fighter jets :)
@@wolfgangkarner I said that because there was no audio, no ATC. Couldn't even see the screens. Just as well have been in a passenger jet cabin. It is a nice plane though.
@@wernerdanler2742 - no prob! Just use a big monitor and you could certainly follow the IFR procedures. It is only IFR training in Markus' brand new aircraft - no fun flight, just testing the new GARMIN NXi - by the way: ATC recording is prohibited in Germany - unfortunately
Horrible video. Great plane. Nothing for the viewer to use or enjoy...
I enjoyed it and in germany audio recording if not allowed so yeah
For those who know a bit about flying and reading modern avionics, it might be interesting ... if you don't like it - that's fine for me : ))
Boring!
This is not an action movie, Alan. It is a training session for IFR standard procedures ...