According to some of the things I have seen, relating to the DBQ, it is stating that since 2020 the VA has discontinued using the DBQ form. C Files, electronically, are taking from 10 to 12 weeks to get due to VA backlog.
What troubles me most about this entire process is that the VA is not there to discern the truth of the matter, they are there to discredit the veteran and deny him his rightful benefits.
Not the VA's fault. A lot of our brothers and sisters have been dishonest and screwed it up for us with the real problems. They could do better with the screening process though and start legally holding the examiners legally accountable for withholding facts.
I don't agree. I'm a VSO for my county and my talks with VA staff and/or medical folks, they are ALWAYS ready to go above and beyond. The people at my VA clinic are like that and the two VA hospitals within my driving distance have the most dedicated people I've ever seen in a hospital setting.
@@dougbergren8035 I am not speaking of the local clinics who I am very grateful for, my major concern is the disability end i.e. trying to get compensation for injuries incurred during service. Everything about them is delay, deny, divert up until the time the veteran either gives up and quits or dies.
On your post, I have to agree. I'm having this problem with my hearing claim in that the 3rd party's scores were much much higher than the VA's. According to their scores, my hearing was almost perfect! So, POOF! There's no compensation needed! But, I AM getting hearing aids for the hearing problem I don't have.
It took me 27 years until I discovered everything you are saying. I finally got my Total & Permanent IU Rating in 2007. I am a people pleaser, so of course I put on my best face at my initial C&Ps, with obvious results. Then, in 2007, I forgot that I was also a psychologist, stopped analyzing myself, and just presented my normal self to the C&P provider. I also brought every scrap of evidence and testimonial I could find. Result, TDIU, updated three years later to Total & Permanent. Forget your anxiety and the stigma...just go, and be yourself. Report everything you can and do indeed bring notes. I hope everyone that deserves a rating gets one, but the C&P is important beyond words.
I had one yesterday, it was like 10 mins. I wish i had notes because I couldn't remember everything I wanted to say (my anxiety kicked in). I cried twice with the nurse, etc. But got in front of the dr and my brain froze. But I did have to finish the questionnaire while still there and I tried to put everything I could.
The doctor doesn't need any paperwork from you. That is submitted when you file your claim. Then you see a doctor once your claim has been reviewed. Make copies of Everything you submit. Fortunately, I had a copy of my medical records. There were only facts with dates submitted, explaining the incident. Send for your med records. Did you hear the WW records burned. Get your records. I took the desert rock to my exam. When you get multiple appointments, your on your way!
Best advice my father gave me and I have given my daughter: DO NOT leave, sick call, sick bay, the clinic, a doctors exam or anything else medically related without at least 1 copy. I kept a copy and mailed a copy home. Thank God I did! "They" lost my records 3 times on my initial claim. Since, we're all late for that my personal advice go over all your records and be familiar with the order of when and how things happened. EVEN if your 100% certain, it was in a different order then the way its documented go with the way its documented. Or, make a note that it's not documented in the corect order. It's hard to change dates on paperwork after the paperwork is done. (That's a great place to get tripped up!) Ya'll are nothing like the crotchety examiners I had! AND, thank you, for NOT being like the crotchety examiners I had!!!
You guys are a blessing!🙏🏼 I have a C&P coming up this week, and I feel more prepared than ever. Thank you all for everything you do for the veteran community.
I have hard time expressing all my symptoms so I wrote them down this time to make sure I don't forget issues like my last exam resulting in low ball for ptsd
Thank you for posting this video. I’m just starting to write up my first submission since I was in (Desert Storm vet). I didn’t even know I could get VA healthcare till a few years ago. I’m scared and overwhelmed at the whole process.
I was too brother. You'll have to look up fed law that states a soldier being accepted into the military is automatically considered physically and mentally fit. Mostly important, so they don't try to blame it on something else from your childhood like they did me. I appealed and complained. I'm now 100%. My med records were "missing." Keep fighting. And take at the DCM5 Requirements for each category. Google it. Do research before you construct your letter. I also got letters from family members.
Wow! Over 13 years of combined experience, the both of you make an outstanding team! I went to my first C&P Exam in 2002 and I learned in 2009 how valuable having a copy of my records. My C&P examiner in 2009 asked me did I have a copy of my records. I enjoyed your video and I will be using your video with my veterans' group of 7,3k veterans and spouses.
I had knee pain throughout my service. Only went to sickbay once. At my exit exam the Dr flat out told me there's nothing wrong with your knees and if you try to get money for it you won't. F him.
For an answer at the end of this video sometimes there are a few of us out there that just want to be fixed. We feel broken and it sucks that we can’t fix it on our own. We don’t want the money. Sometimes we just want our families to feel safe around us.
I have been out of the Marines for 23 years. I was brought up that we only go to the doctor if we are pretty much dying which was the same thing that the Marines taught us. Pain is weakness leaving the body. Well, now my pain is constant and has spread from my service connected injury to my back and neck and is mentally draining me. I can not sleep well anymore because of the pain and am short with people when I am around them. After listening to stuff on youtube, I feel am pretty much screwed because I have not been going to doctor. I have made my 1st appointment with the VA and guess I will go from there.
Thank you for this video! I'm going for an C&P exam. I need to get prepared. My take away from this is that: VA C&P evaluators are garbage and are not there for the Veteran. You are being judged the second we walk through the front doors of the testing facility. VA Raters/Evaluators are basically cops, can't trust them even if they try to make "small talk" when they're really gathering evidence to use AGAINST you, the veteran, which is why Veterans need a lawyer (hence this video and law firm) in order to have a FAIR shot at being evaluated. If the evaluation was so easy, then why the need for these videos AND/OR why the need to involve lawyers, and why the need to get "insider secrets"...this song and dance is the reason why veterans would rather take our own lives/go homeless, than to put up with dealing with these garbage gatekeepers, intentionally designed to dismiss veteran issues.
The more I see this stuff. The angrier I get.... I / we served our country with pride. Mine is not to question why but to do or die aye aye sir.... A career of service and now years later. Our career is done... and some young high paid doctor who has never been in combat and or the service. Never had to deal with doing your job in the service and yet you can't sleep... you spend time trying to forget and get past things... you suppress your feelings so you can blend into society. You doctors don't know this... but oh the VA is here to help you... and thank you for your service... I am so tired of hearing that. What gives you the right to judge me and tell me what I feel ? Why don't you just help ? Everyone talks about the money... you know what screw the money. You are making a big fat check in your world... your welcome for my service ! So you can live your lifestyle. So some miserly little amount of compensation for our service to our country. We sucked it up and never questioned why.. we just did..now..now I can question why ? What gives you the right ? This just pisses me off about all this crap... Veterans Association my a... .
This is great. I know I've gone to C+P exams and the examiner gives the impression they are trying to find a reason to say no. It doesn't matter what happens you are not going to get anywhere.
This is such a very good video. They aren't talking over your head, but being very relatable to Veterans. I've listened to many many videos to help Veterans, this one hit on so many important points. I advise looking at this one over and over.
I have a C&P exam review for PTSD increase. It’s a VideoConnect appointment again. You guys should do a video about C&P exams that are done through VideoConnect. It’s kind of hard to talk to someone when it’s over a video chat. Address the pros and cons of a video chat C&P. Thanks for the informative videos. Keep them coming.
Absolutely. I recently had a virtual hearing with judge Skow ,it went horribly. I was anxious, not prepared, she was off putting. I'm pretty good at reading people and the way she started the hearing, stating that she was very busy, other cases to hear, disappointed that Alexandra Jackson wasn't there. She behaves just appropriately enough. But she cut my actual associate atty off, he wasn't even on the right track. He got information wrong. That threw me off and discombobulated me. I knew leaving, actually I knew after judge Skow initially spoke that she had already discounted me and my case. My attorneys have disappointed me time and time again. I didn't get the opportunity to tie it all up, explain the consequences of what my injuries had resulted in my life. How the path of my life changed course. Even though I kept pulling up those boot straps, kept trying, didn't just give up.I was tough and positive until I wasn't. I definitely do not trust the VA or the process. Gee, I wish I actually mattered.
ALL the time I was in the Air Force I was told to NEVER go to a military doctor for anything as any problems medically you have on your record will make it impossible to get a job when you are discharged. Even on my physical when being discharged they told me to NOT say anything is wrong medically. We were always told if you have any disability due to service in the armed forces you will not get hired outside. We had to say we were in perfect health.
oh my god YES!!! me too!!! in boot camp i was terrified of being held back so i said nothing and just suffered in silence. Same in active duty, they told me unless you're dead you can't go to sick call. i wish i was better able to stand up for myself. but at 18-22 i did not have a backbone :(
I've never had an employer who cared if I was a veteran or who inquired with me about any health issues related to military service, or about the quality of my service, or if my discharge was honorable. There are a few minor entries on my DD214 that a reasonable employer might want clarification on, but no one has ever asked or withheld employment as far as I know for any issue related to my military service. Sounds to me like some folks bought into the 'it will go on your permanent record' concept. Maybe things do go on a permanent record, but no one but bureaucrats who keep the record ever seem to look at those records.
@kimlground206 There aren't many qualifications to be a janitor or burger flopper. Good luck to you though. At least with our great President Biden at the helm even you got you salary INCREASED drastically as there is full employment and many businesses still need more employees. You can thank our President Biden that you are able to get hired! When there's full employment they will hire anyone as you found out. Good luck to you and maybe some day you can apply for citizenship.
Thank you for doing this video. I had a mental health exam earlier this year for a VA claim, and they didn't ask me about any of my symptoms related to stress and pain that I have from military service. In an hour and a half they only asked once if I had seen anyone killed in front of me and then acted like there isn't any way I can have PTSD or that the stress has impacted my mental health because I had already been diagnosed with depression prior to joining the military. On top of that, I was so anxious talking to someone I didn't know, I forgot to bring up most of symptoms I'm having, and they didn't ask, so the VA denied all my mental health claims. You covered all the mistakes I already made, so hopefully other vets will find this video and it can help them before their exam.
@@blackkmagik7281 Yes. I already contacted a law firm prior to finding this video. My claims are all still in process and the ones that have already been denied will be in appeals for up to 12 more months. At least I have someone who knows the process representing me, and I think they will do better than the DAV.
@@gorak3716 yea because I’m currently trying to get an increase and they have me going through LHI for the test and evaluations. Not sure if I should just rely on this process to get the increase or go through some other means of helping myself win my increase.
@@blackkmagik7281 I would recommend using a firm. They won't help till current claims are closed, but when they do, they can get all your information organized better and submit the claims better to help you. They can't charge for helping to submit your claims, but they will seek back payment for your conditions to when they started and then charge a sum from what they win. The one I've been working with charges 30% if they win, but it's way more than the VA will give you. They will only back pay till the day you filed the current claim which might be 6 months or a year. Talk to a lawyer. H&P looks to be really good, and they give so much information to help you get started and describe what level you should be at based on you're symptoms. Berry Law is helping me with mine. The examiners even said that when I was working with DAV that all the records that they were submitting were a mess and hard to read through and find what they needed to support the claims.
@@gorak3716 thank you for the information. I’m working with Deuterman Law firm and I’ve also filed a intent to claim a while back and I’m hoping for the best. Sounds pretty spot on to what I’m going through
Remember, when they ask you how you're doing, DO NOT say you're fine, just mention how bad you feel and bring up your issues, this clues them into asking for more details, what they are supposed to do. You can drive the interview if you think about your issues and do not for any reason act like anything is fine/good or OK!
I did not get a higher rating from my interview. I was late getting some of the information that I needed and still do not have nearly all that I need, dates and full names. One issue may never get a rating, it would be so controversial, as it may not have been honestly disclosed when it occurred. I'm not entirely sure what to do next.
Outstanding! I have been on the fence for quite some time about starting the "claim process", but after viewing your videos a lot of the anxiety has been taken away. Thank you!
problems with older vets, the old paper private records from pre digital age are gone... all my records from illness in 1988 was disposed of under state law once the doctor has not seen that patient for 5 years. each state is different.
The VA dropped me from 90% to 80% which cost me over $200 a month. Their reason was one of my claims "showed improvement". Which I never once expressed to them. After speaking with a guy at a local DAV, i was informed the VA do that to punish when you have too many claims in succession
I've since been brought back up to 90% working on building evidence to get to that last 10%. I just don't know when I should attempt another rate increase
@@eQuariuz I know it. The rating when back up after about 8 months. The whole ordeal really left me fearful of losing my percentages again, I rely on every dime to provide for my family
I don’t recall a seps interview in 03 Was shotgunned through medical, about 75 of us in one day. From wheels up out of Iraq to dd214 in hand and discharged was about 9 days. Recalled from the IRR on that trip. From discharged dd214 in hand. 12 day notice on mobilization orders, ran trough a makeshift MCT course and sent to Iraq, all in less than 6 weeks. Then sent home few months later with no notice. Literally grab your gear we have a flight. Going over was the same. I was not a reservist, I was active duty, did my 5 years, got out and then recalled in 03.
The best thing to do is have a real Doctor that specializes in problem your having do an exam in the same time frame. I did this and the Neurologist I went to got it right and the VA sent me to her but then didn't want to accept her EMG findings. She said, Complete twice and the Contract witch Doctor said my foot and ankle still work without me there and the same date. I went from 0-90 percent last year. I found errors on every Decision. I won 3 Higher Level Reviews and got A BVA win and they slammed the Regional office and maxed me out on everything for the entire Appeal Period of 10 years.
The first mistake is going to the VA. in the first place for C&P. . Go to a real Doctor and get a nexus letter first. Because VA will try to discredit everything that you tell them. I know because it happened to me .
God Bless you both and Hill & Pontoon I'm 75 yr old viet vet that my last filing was in 1968 10% for scars now filing for Diabetes, etc last May , just recd notice for my C& P for diabetes and diabetic neuropothy this coming feb 26 , thank you,thank youi for this video
I use an Alpha-Stim for PTSD, depression/anxiety,and for chronic muscle pain. I use and need a cane but only use the Alpha-Stim once or twice a day. I plan to bring it thanks you this video.
Reviewing and researching examiners…I’ve fired two and made LHI reschedule after I did my research. One was a child psychologist who was issued a cease and desist order by the board of forensic examiners. He was biased in child custody cases so the board ordered that he can never conduct forensic exams for court cases. Well, a C&P exam is a forensic exam. I sent that court order to an LHI supervisor and had my exam rescheduled. He also wrote some weird book without any Amazon ratings about youth social injustices in NYC. A child psychologist for a PTSD C&P exam….seriously, where does LHI find these nut jobs!
Thanks for the tip, Dimitra B. For those that don't know, like I didn't... LHI(Logistics Health Inc.) assists the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs in providing quality compensation and pension examinations to Veterans and separating Service members seeking benefits for service-connected health issues.
My upcoming examiner .....is a female child psych and some type of home sciences enthusiast. Also has 2021 as a start date for this C&P position. Does this sound right?
@@eQuariuz Let whoever scheduled her (ie LHI) know you researched her credentials and would like to be rescheduled with someone else because she doesn’t appear qualified.
I always told my story, and what I went through both before I was medically retired to going to every appointment. I also, hate VA Dr's trying to push meds, and then when you explain why. They try to say you're refusing medical treatment. The last annual appointment I physically went to. I took my civilian records. The Dr that kept pushing meds glanced over them. Note, I had 2 neck surgeries, and had brought those in to make sure that info was placed into my record.
I was late to my C&P because my car literally caught on fire in traffic. I put out the fire, called them that I would be late and continued slowly. After the C&P I had to tow my car from Nashville to Ft Campbell, just to get it home and then to a repair shop.
The best advice I was ever given for a C&P exam was to remember, this is "not your" doctor. They are not there for your health, they are there to evaluate you for the VA.
I separated in 1989. I told my examiner my problems, he took no notes of which I was aware, listened to my heart and lungs, hit my knees for knee-jerk, then said "10% non-compensable". OBTW: I was an elite powerlifter on the Army powerlifting team. He didn't mention my seizure disorder (which I finally got 40% due to a buddy statement because I didn't even know I had them) but at any rate...He did no real exam and didn't ask anything. Trust me, I am a doctor, and I know what a physical exam cosists of. However, now I can't go back and complain about that examiner, the lack of a real exam, and the fact that it was 20 years before I got my compensation; the VA had a neurology note dated 1988 stating that I just might have epilepsy!
The VA puts notes in your records after each appointment. Some notes are very accurate but some are not. Some notes will hinder your ability with future claims. Check your notes regularly.
I was deployed with the national guard when we got bsck state side went through a demobilization where the rumor mill was if you said no to everything you left when the exam was done, if you said yes to anything you wouldn't go home for days-weeks.
Y’all just reminded me when stationed in Takli Thailand that I was hospitalized for an unspecified flue like illness while being there in 1967 and 1968. I always thought it had to do with the herbicide they sprayed around our Hooches where poisonous were hidden.
I've had one exam that was taken via video. That exam mildly rose my rating for depression. I was suggested to look into TDIU, so I did. When I had the exam for that, this doctor said that he doesn't know why I wasn't moved to 100%. I sincerely think that the video appointments hide a lot, when you only really see head and shoulders.
Greta information. I need to take the notes you recommended. I forget simple stuff when I’m get overwhelmed with crowds. Had to pick up 3 things at the Hardware store today, and almost forgot one of them. Luckily I had written them down. I’m already getting a bit of anxiety about an upcoming exam, so knowing how to prepare helps.
Got my c&p for depression next week. Planning to use the notes I submitted to the VA so I don't miss any points. My memory isnt the best these days. Hopefully they'll allow me hit everything.
Good luck battle. My memory is the worst. 92Y I kept track of all the things. Now a days......not so much. Journaling helps. Vlogging even. Fortunately, perhaps. My mania encourages me in grandiose delusion that I will be a RUclips influencer and so of course I have years worth of madness on video at this point. But journal entries, facebook post that show hey this was me I was happy or look same story 5 years later whatever those things help too. I don't have buddies anymore to get statements from. Check that block for PTSD. Inability to form attachments. But I have stockpiles of B reels.
This has been a very difficult process for myself. Thank you for all the tips on going to the exam and the insight from the physician was very informative. My problem is going to a C&P exam is stressful, which can trigger events. You are expecting yourself to know all of your medical info, be able to answer questions the correct way, be aware of the process you are in, float like a butterfly and sting like a bee etc. While all this is going on, add a migraine headache and anxiety to the mix and you can see that it is not realistic to get ironclad responses from the patient. In fact, I have a very hard time articulating thoughts or processing information or doing any critical thinking whatsoever. Of course, to yourself, this is normal but the people interviewing you do not know that.
Also extremely important to be focused and accurate when answering care givers. Your comments are reflected in the care givers' report and become part of your medical record. Your records should accurately depict your conditions.
I wish I knew some of this a few years ago during my MEB. I was afraid of being judged that I didn’t mention how much my personal hygiene was/is affected my mental health and if I had I would be at 100%. Don’t be afraid of judgement y’all
It sucks. I'm going through it now my command is always asking me questions why I won't stay in the office and why I keep going to my car and isolating. I'm so mentally over the whole thing 😩
@@meganmiller9752 keep doing YOUR best. Obviously Communicate what you need to from a work stand point, I mean looking like you’re shamming is not fun especially when that’s not the case at all. But Don’t be embarrassed. You have to set yourself up for success after you’re out. That goes for mental health too
Records - I found the St. Louis archieves only had my separation physical, while my "C file" had all my medical records. I also found the C&P Examiners were overwhelmed by the amount of files sent to them (3,000 pdf pages) and asked me for the relevent files. I found I was the only one that knew everything in my file. I had to email my Independent medical opinion to one examiner, because the file was mislabeled.
THE VA IN THE 60S, 70S AND EVEN INTO THE 80S...USE TO GIVE THE VETERAN ALL HIS RECORDS TO PHYSICALLY CARRY BY HAND TO CARRY TO A NEW VA...WAS NOT COMPUTERIZED....👍
I went to see a C&P contracted physician for a increase in my knees which I am 30%. Know once did she do a physician exam or range of motion, she seem to care less about the pain I was in. Also for PTSD, when the examiner ask when you first get there, hello how are you today. If you say fine or ok that counts against you. WTF. They want us to be honest which we should but with a lot of the examiners it doesn't matter these mofos are like insurance companies looking loop hole to deny you.
Mental health is a crual thing. Its easy to act like you are ok for a few hrs when you go out to public places But nobody is there when its2 or 3 am and your suffering from it at your worst.
Just some constructive criticism if wanted. I am brand new to the VA process even though I exited service over a decade ago. The anxiety of the VA monster kept me away for a long time. Luckily, I found Vet Guardian to fight them for me. Just listening to the two of you talk about the process is bringing anxiety back, and here is why. I stopped the video at 7:25. I have no doubt that the two of you are incredibly knowledgeable and passionate about helping us veterans. However, most of us are not lawyers or phycologist, and the language is way above our heads. Using acronyms without context starts to loose us. Then continuing to move forward without explanation starts to give anxiety. Within minutes I was lost and had no clue what you two were talking about any longer. Slow down and dumb down for us a little bit. I'm going to move on to another channel but hopefully this helps you guys grow more. Good luck
As a reservist, retired in 2011 with 28 years of service and was not afforded a separation physical. I was a IMA (Individual Mobilization Augmentee) so the separation was done with me resigning my commision and since I am under 60 I am still in the retired reserve (Gray area Reservist). I asked for a separation physical and I was told there would be none. Emailed me my separation/retirement orders and it was done. No big ceremony. I have been able to get 60% with some Nexus letters from my civilian Dr and a BVA review that took 7 years. So it is possible but takes time. I did have some medical treatment records that was before my retirement date but most were from civilian or VA doctors and not from a military facility since reservists do not normally go to military facilities since they are no on duty for long periods of time and cannot get an appt for non emergency issues before coming off of orders. At least that is my experience. Any other Reservists want to share their experience?
Same I didn't get a sep physiical either and I had been on my 2nd mobilization over a period of 9 years and retired after 22. No medical nothing just my info from PERS and my point capture sheet etc. I had a service connected rating prior and now I feel I have a secondary condition because of it and will file a new claim. I need a nexus letter and have a VA appointment next month. Hopefully I can get increase in my primary and add my secondary as well.
Or if you worked at Area51, there are no records. 85-89 stationed in the middle of nowhere and two feet from hell on the F-117A. Also a secret FOB during Desert Storm. Retired 2010 (29yrs USAF) 11yrs later…100% P&T. Turkey 4x, Dijibouti 3x, Afghanistan, Iceland, Okinawa, South Korea, and more. Awesome years with the 304th Rescue Sq.
Excellent advice, thank you. I believe veterans have a tendency to downplay their issues. There’s a little voice in their head telling them to suck it up, be a man. I have an exam in a few weeks. I already know I will be sitting there thinking: “some other veterans are more needy and deserving than I am to receive monthly payments; maybe I should pull the plug on the exam and just go home.”
I went for a PTSD percentage increase. It was grueling because the Doc had me start from the beginning, life before army, during army and after army. It was not a simple review.
Important that your "before" service story you tell them that it was normal. If you go into all your upbringing problems they will say your symptoms started before service
At the end of the day it boils down to who is reviewing your claim and who is examining you. These C&P examiners arent considering laystatements, they are throughly looking through your claim. VSR isn't looking through your records thoroughly and the RVSR may not catch everything Tips: when you submit your medical records HIGHLIGHT your evidence. When you submit your statements, BRING THEM TO YOUR EXAMINER GET A COPY OF YOUR DBQ RESULTS BE CAREFUL WITH PRIVATE POAs all they do is submit a cookie cutter statement to the VA...on your behalf
Tough to provide documentation when medical records are "lost" or destroyed by a volcano erupting. Even when trying to get tested for problems, and getting treated by someone who didn't deem it necessary to conduct testing for something he could misdiagnose readily. So, 2nd degree sun burns and falling down a mountain during training, with bruised ribs, concussion and dislocated jaw, the being given a diagnosis of a "slightly deviated septum" and later finding out it was actually severe sleep apnea and deemed "too late for a re-evaluation". Yeah, I'd rather see a witch doctor or rot in a gutter then have to try to deal with the VA again. Wish I'd known then, what I know now. Hope others can benefit from this information before that door closes.
Thank you for that information, I can relate to everything you have said. It really makes me realize that I do have a lot of things that I need to deal with. I just need to work up the nerve to let someone know what's really going on with me.....thank you for your great job.
my records are from de paul hospital mental ward, balboa mental ward, camp pendleton hospital and camp pendleton mental health and my records. i put all that in my records before i turned it in. my personal copies have all that too.
W O W . . . . . . . , I just deleted the most angry bullshit I have ever said in a comment. The two of you are so inspiring, I want to be a client the day after my 50 year old appeal . with 80% hearing loss I won 40% rating. With deep , deep, "complex ptsd", and my complex personality, (my wife on her death bed said she had never known a nicer guy). Something you said in the first 5 minutes , and my fears and doubts triggered me. Pray for me on August 3rd. My VSO Officer I think was sent by God. I trust DAV and Judges like I do Desert Vipers, and angry thugs. Tim at VSO will be my moderator. See you soon Hill and Ponton... Tim thought that should be my next move, after 50 years of hell and depression,anxiety.....P T S D .
My three C & P exams involved hard numbers and imaging with two questions on tinnitus nothing more , very different from what you are discussing - pulmonary mechanics (lung function) , audiometer ( hearing test ) and a chest x ray no medical doctors involved.
#9 Concerning Physical Health and Depression, I talked with my Pain Management Doctor about depression one day. He said Dennis with the amount of pain and amount of drugs you have to take, I'd be worried if you weren't depressed. D@mn if that didn't make me feel better.
In reference to Mistake #1, Not reviewing your records...I filed for my entire C File over a year ago and am still waiting...really, how long does it take 1 person to look at the records in my file and print them out, put them in an envelope and send them to me?...About an hour! In other situations I was deployed to numerous locations and whatever happened there WAS NOT recorded. I went to see Doctors in the Clinic's at those remote locations post battle encounters where I couldn't hear at all...and the doctor just said, it will go away and NOTHING was ever put in to my record. Then the VA asks for those records which were never properly created/saved. How does that work? The VA takes advantage of the Veterans situations like this to deny the Veteran their just disability compensation.
The day of my C&P exam was a day to remember - My neck was broken my legs sanpped crackled and POPPED he saw the back of my Head and didnt get a response that mentioned this, am I pissed off yes, I lost someone I loved and cared about cause whoever was watching me wanted the one upper over me to have there will be a GIVEN!
You guys were right about one thing we stop going as veterans because the care we get is ridiculously bad I went in for 1 physical while I was still in the military they told me I had the journey to arthritis in my neck The following year the year I got out I had bone spurs In the same area I asked them what they were gonna do they didn't do anything I haven't gottenDegenerative arthritis am I lower back now When I was diagnosed with it in 2012 and in 2013 I had the bone spurs I complained about it since 2004 when I was still in the military about my lower back I'm assuming they finally really looked at the x-rays and now I have degenerated far threatened to my lower back
A few years ago I went for C&P for my tinnitus. The examiner was a middle eastern ( ?) woman. First thing she asked me if I was ever exposed to loud noises. I started to become very angry, but not visibly. I am a combat veteran, and for her to ask me that was extremely insulting. She asked me to go into the small room where she put headphones on me to start the audio exam. I started having a panic attack, probably from the anger. Needless to say, in a rush to get out of the room, I failed the test. The VA cancelled the Tinnitus rating I had.
To put it all in one sentence, aggravating the aggravated is the same as fatiguing the already fatigued . My Psychiatrist put a name on it sooo long that I have trouble remembering what terminology he used. But it had to do how much my wife tried to control me, and I just let it run off my back. He called it “ Severe Depersonalization Syndrome “. The poor thing died in 2005 and the Doctor said there’s good and bad in everything.
Except for first of 4 C and P exam what do you do if you are not told who your examiner is even if you call and ask in Louisville, KY last 3 exams I was told when I ask, “who ever gets your file, we don’t know who will be here until they get here.” And even when requested to use them last 3 doctors refused or stated they don’t have access to the device to measure range of motion last exam back and neck they stated MRI reports done at Louisville VA doctor stated “that my last MRI was 1997, “exam in 2016, ‘was last MRI.” Even telling them the dates of 7 more recent MRI’s the examiner even flat out told me I was lying and argued with me after I informed her that they would not do a spinal fusion, in 2015, as seen on the x-ray without first doing a MRI.
Just yesterday, April 26th, I had a fourth C&P Exam. I was examined by a retired MD who did not practice in the field that he was examining me for. However, MD's do have basic training and understanding in all medical fields. I prepare for a C&P Exam like I used to prepare for a job interview. I study to verbally perfect the presentation of my current medical condition and to have my most recent exam electronically sent to the examiner from my doctor. I also bring a printed copy to the exam with me. It's very important that you also bring a copy of your most recent evaluation by the VA which will state the Rating Decision, Evidence, and Reasons for the Decision. My examiner wanted to see it as a guideline for his evaluation. All I can say is that I was glad that I had prepared and brought pertinent documentation as the examiner was very thorough and asked a lot of pointed questions that I had to search my memory to answer. I would advise anyone, that is going in for a C&P Exam, not to lie or enhance their condition in hopes of a more favorable evaluation. Just answer truthfully as these examiners are trained to spot fabricated responses.
That's too much work. They have your documents. They don't need you to bring anything. I know these docs don't like it when you started talking like a doctor. All they want to hear is how you feel and what part of your body it limits.
@@stealth1077 They only have the most recent documents if your specialist has sent to the VA electronically. The most recent evaluation is what is important. Many private doctors don't do this. I had my specialist print me out my most recent exam, copied it, and emailed to the VA Contractor's Examiner. As I leave nothing to chance I also brought copies with me to the exam. Since I'm on 100% disability and don't want to lose it because it somehow was considered "too much work".
Most, if not all, of these excuses for failing a C&P exam are exactly that, excuses. When a vet fails to prepare for this exam or fails to bring documents to support the claim usually there are no documents. Not that they are hard to acquire or missing but simply because they do not exist. Many vets attempt to gain a higher rating without additional information to support that claim. If a vet has a disability and has been treated for it then there are documents to support it. Failing to supply those documents surely means the hearing will result in failure and the vet is totally aware of that fact. I have been in that position and I went to each and every hearing fully prepared and aware of exactly what was required of me. I did not have to act in any way other than what was natural to my character and I surely did not attempt to mislead anyone. All ligitimate claims with supporting documentation are virtually impossible for the VA to deny but that does not mean a single C&P hearing will result in a 100% rating, that usually takes several attempts. It is natural to be discouraged but unwise to give up and not continue to fight for what you are entitled to. It is a process that the vet has control of but the bottom line is that there must be a ligitimate disability and there must be documentation to support the claim. Without that the possibility of gaining a higher rating remain low.
I had an opportunity to ac company of veteran to one of these exams and I felt sorry for the vent afterwards he was totally on a prepared.. I plan to let him look at this and hopefully he gets another chance...
As promised, here's the link to the VA DBQs on our site: www.hillandponton.com/dbq-disability-benefits-questionnaires/
Thank you & Sharing!!!
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According to some of the things I have seen, relating to the DBQ, it is stating that since 2020 the VA has discontinued using the DBQ form. C Files, electronically, are taking from 10 to 12 weeks to get due to VA backlog.
@@FlaThunderstorm Congress demanded they reinstate them shortly after it was discontinued.
How do you submit spouse statements. I have had my wife at one of the exams and they almost wouldn't even listen to her speak.
@@jameswall1957 It’s called a buddy letter. You just submit the letter with your claim.
What troubles me most about this entire process is that the VA is not there to discern the truth of the matter, they are there to discredit the veteran and deny him his rightful benefits.
Not the VA's fault. A lot of our brothers and sisters have been dishonest and screwed it up for us with the real problems.
They could do better with the screening process though and start legally holding the examiners legally accountable for withholding facts.
I don't agree. I'm a VSO for my county and my talks with VA staff and/or medical folks, they are ALWAYS ready to go above and beyond. The people at my VA clinic are like that and the two VA hospitals within my driving distance have the most dedicated people I've ever seen in a hospital setting.
@@dougbergren8035 I am not speaking of the local clinics who I am very grateful for, my major concern is the disability end i.e. trying to get compensation for injuries incurred during service. Everything about them is delay, deny, divert up until the time the veteran either gives up and quits or dies.
@@dougbergren8035 this video is about VA c&p exams. Those examiners are loyal to the VA, not the veteran.
On your post, I have to agree. I'm having this problem with my hearing claim in that the 3rd party's scores were much much higher than the VA's. According to their scores, my hearing was almost perfect! So, POOF! There's no compensation needed! But, I AM getting hearing aids for the hearing problem I don't have.
It took me 27 years until I discovered everything you are saying. I finally got my Total & Permanent IU Rating in 2007. I am a people pleaser, so of course I put on my best face at my initial C&Ps, with obvious results. Then, in 2007, I forgot that I was also a psychologist, stopped analyzing myself, and just presented my normal self to the C&P provider. I also brought every scrap of evidence and testimonial I could find. Result, TDIU, updated three years later to Total & Permanent. Forget your anxiety and the stigma...just go, and be yourself. Report everything you can and do indeed bring notes. I hope everyone that deserves a rating gets one, but the C&P is important beyond words.
Yeah I totally screwed mine up .
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You always say the sweetest things
@@cr-nd8qh DUDE these fucks at VA screwed your shit up. VA is a DEATH CAMP
I had one yesterday, it was like 10 mins. I wish i had notes because I couldn't remember everything I wanted to say (my anxiety kicked in). I cried twice with the nurse, etc. But got in front of the dr and my brain froze. But I did have to finish the questionnaire while still there and I tried to put everything I could.
The doctor doesn't need any paperwork from you. That is submitted when you file your claim. Then you see a doctor once your claim has been reviewed. Make copies of Everything you submit. Fortunately, I had a copy of my medical records. There were only facts with dates submitted, explaining the incident. Send for your med records. Did you hear the WW records burned. Get your records. I took the desert rock to my exam. When you get multiple appointments, your on your way!
Best advice my father gave me and I have given my daughter: DO NOT leave, sick call, sick bay, the clinic, a doctors exam or anything else medically related without at least 1 copy. I kept a copy and mailed a copy home. Thank God I did! "They" lost my records 3 times on my initial claim. Since, we're all late for that my personal advice
go over all your records and be familiar with the order of when and how things happened. EVEN if your 100% certain, it was in a different order then the way its documented go with the way its documented. Or, make a note that it's not documented in the corect order. It's hard to change dates on paperwork after the paperwork is done. (That's a great place to get tripped up!)
Ya'll are nothing like the crotchety examiners I had! AND, thank you, for NOT being like the crotchety examiners I had!!!
You guys are a blessing!🙏🏼
I have a C&P coming up this week, and I feel more prepared than ever. Thank you all for everything you do for the veteran community.
It's and easy process as long as you have proof. Im 100% and have had no issues with my claims.
How was it,
Sick anecdotal evidence
U are the exception not the rule@@bigboycombo6342
What was the result ?
I have hard time expressing all my symptoms so I wrote them down this time to make sure I don't forget issues like my last exam resulting in low ball for ptsd
Thank you for posting this video. I’m just starting to write up my first submission since I was in (Desert Storm vet). I didn’t even know I could get VA healthcare till a few years ago. I’m scared and overwhelmed at the whole process.
I was too
brother. You'll have to look up fed law that states a soldier being accepted into the military is automatically considered physically and mentally fit. Mostly important, so they don't try to blame it on something else from your childhood like they did me. I appealed and complained. I'm now 100%. My med records were "missing." Keep fighting. And take at the DCM5 Requirements for each category. Google it. Do research before you construct your letter. I also got letters from family members.
Wow! Over 13 years of combined experience, the both of you make an outstanding team! I went to my first C&P Exam in 2002 and I learned in 2009 how valuable having a copy of my records. My C&P examiner in 2009 asked me did I have a copy of my records. I enjoyed your video and I will be using your video with my veterans' group of 7,3k veterans and spouses.
When we demobed my command told us to keep our mouth shut so the unit didn’t get held up getting home.
Yep, they said NOTHING is wrong, you dont have any problems, if you ANSWER YES to anything, you will be held back in Iraq.
My exit interview went the same way. He told me I have problems but if I want to go home I need to shut up
Iraq to discharged, dd214 in hand in less than 2 weeks.
About 9 days of memory serves.
No exit interview.
Facts! Luckily one day I had an attitude problem and told the truth and that truth won my case!
I had knee pain throughout my service. Only went to sickbay once. At my exit exam the Dr flat out told me there's nothing wrong with your knees and if you try to get money for it you won't. F him.
For an answer at the end of this video sometimes there are a few of us out there that just want to be fixed. We feel broken and it sucks that we can’t fix it on our own. We don’t want the money. Sometimes we just want our families to feel safe around us.
Yes… exactly 😰!
How the heck did RUclips know I have one of those in January? I am seeing these all over my RUclips feed.
I have been out of the Marines for 23 years. I was brought up that we only go to the doctor if we are pretty much dying which was the same thing that the Marines taught us. Pain is weakness leaving the body. Well, now my pain is constant and has spread from my service connected injury to my back and neck and is mentally draining me. I can not sleep well anymore because of the pain and am short with people when I am around them. After listening to stuff on youtube, I feel am pretty much screwed because I have not been going to doctor. I have made my 1st appointment with the VA and guess I will go from there.
Any Updates?
I am literally in the same boat, been out for 20 years. First appointment is in a few days. How'd it go for you, Devil?
Thank you for this video! I'm going for an C&P exam. I need to get prepared.
My take away from this is that: VA C&P evaluators are garbage and are not there for the Veteran. You are being judged the second we walk through the front doors of the testing facility.
VA Raters/Evaluators are basically cops, can't trust them even if they try to make "small talk" when they're really gathering evidence to use AGAINST you, the veteran, which is why Veterans need a lawyer (hence this video and law firm) in order to have a FAIR shot at being evaluated.
If the evaluation was so easy, then why the need for these videos AND/OR why the need to involve lawyers, and why the need to get "insider secrets"...this song and dance is the reason why veterans would rather take our own lives/go homeless, than to put up with dealing with these garbage gatekeepers, intentionally designed to dismiss veteran issues.
The more I see this stuff. The angrier I get.... I / we served our country with pride. Mine is not to question why but to do or die aye aye sir.... A career of service and now years later. Our career is done... and some young high paid doctor who has never been in combat and or the service. Never had to deal with doing your job in the service and yet you can't sleep... you spend time trying to forget and get past things... you suppress your feelings so you can blend into society. You doctors don't know this... but oh the VA is here to help you... and thank you for your service... I am so tired of hearing that. What gives you the right to judge me and tell me what I feel ? Why don't you just help ? Everyone talks about the money... you know what screw the money. You are making a big fat check in your world... your welcome for my service ! So you can live your lifestyle. So some miserly little amount of compensation for our service to our country. We sucked it up and never questioned why.. we just did..now..now I can question why ? What gives you the right ? This just pisses me off about all this crap... Veterans Association my a... .
This is great. I know I've gone to C+P exams and the examiner gives the impression they are trying to find a reason to say no. It doesn't matter what happens you are not going to get anywhere.
Comments also show up in your VA Medical notes after each appointments that will hinder your ability to file claims.
This is such a very good video. They aren't talking over your head, but being very relatable to Veterans. I've listened to many many videos to help Veterans, this one hit on so many important points. I advise looking at this one over and over.
I am so happy I stumbled upon this series. He actually gets what a vet goes through. Thank you. Both of you
I have a C&P exam review for PTSD increase. It’s a VideoConnect appointment again. You guys should do a video about C&P exams that are done through VideoConnect. It’s kind of hard to talk to someone when it’s over a video chat. Address the pros and cons of a video chat C&P. Thanks for the informative videos. Keep them coming.
I concur
Absolutely. I recently had a virtual hearing with judge Skow ,it went horribly. I was anxious, not prepared, she was off putting. I'm pretty good at reading people and the way she started the hearing, stating that she was very busy, other cases to hear, disappointed that Alexandra Jackson wasn't there. She behaves just appropriately enough. But she cut my actual associate atty off, he wasn't even on the right track. He got information wrong. That threw me off and discombobulated me. I knew leaving, actually I knew after judge Skow initially spoke that she had already discounted me and my case. My attorneys have disappointed me time and time again. I didn't get the opportunity to tie it all up, explain the consequences of what my injuries had resulted in my life. How the path of my life changed course. Even though I kept pulling up those boot straps, kept trying, didn't just give up.I was tough and positive until I wasn't. I definitely do not trust the VA or the process. Gee, I wish I actually mattered.
I'm glad I made a copy of my medical record..... whomever scanned to be online left out all the important things I needed...
ALL the time I was in the Air Force I was told to NEVER go to a military doctor for anything as any problems medically you have on your record will make it impossible to get a job when you are discharged. Even on my physical when being discharged they told me to NOT say anything is wrong medically. We were always told if you have any disability due to service in the armed forces you will not get hired outside. We had to say we were in perfect health.
oh my god YES!!! me too!!! in boot camp i was terrified of being held back so i said nothing and just suffered in silence. Same in active duty, they told me unless you're dead you can't go to sick call. i wish i was better able to stand up for myself. but at 18-22 i did not have a backbone :(
Blessings of health to all veterans!
@@bobb.2173 they lie lol I know people who played the system
I've never had an employer who cared if I was a veteran or who inquired with me about any health issues related to military service, or about the quality of my service, or if my discharge was honorable. There are a few minor entries on my DD214 that a reasonable employer might want clarification on, but no one has ever asked or withheld employment as far as I know for any issue related to my military service. Sounds to me like some folks bought into the 'it will go on your permanent record' concept. Maybe things do go on a permanent record, but no one but bureaucrats who keep the record ever seem to look at those records.
@kimlground206 There aren't many qualifications to be a janitor or burger flopper. Good luck to you though. At least with our great President Biden at the helm even you got you salary INCREASED drastically as there is full employment and many businesses still need more employees. You can thank our President Biden that you are able to get hired! When there's full employment they will hire anyone as you found out. Good luck to you and maybe some day you can apply for citizenship.
Thank you for doing this video. I had a mental health exam earlier this year for a VA claim, and they didn't ask me about any of my symptoms related to stress and pain that I have from military service. In an hour and a half they only asked once if I had seen anyone killed in front of me and then acted like there isn't any way I can have PTSD or that the stress has impacted my mental health because I had already been diagnosed with depression prior to joining the military. On top of that, I was so anxious talking to someone I didn't know, I forgot to bring up most of symptoms I'm having, and they didn't ask, so the VA denied all my mental health claims. You covered all the mistakes I already made, so hopefully other vets will find this video and it can help them before their exam.
Did you ever go back fight for your benefits
@@blackkmagik7281 Yes. I already contacted a law firm prior to finding this video. My claims are all still in process and the ones that have already been denied will be in appeals for up to 12 more months. At least I have someone who knows the process representing me, and I think they will do better than the DAV.
@@gorak3716 yea because I’m currently trying to get an increase and they have me going through LHI for the test and evaluations. Not sure if I should just rely on this process to get the increase or go through some other means of helping myself win my increase.
@@blackkmagik7281 I would recommend using a firm. They won't help till current claims are closed, but when they do, they can get all your information organized better and submit the claims better to help you. They can't charge for helping to submit your claims, but they will seek back payment for your conditions to when they started and then charge a sum from what they win. The one I've been working with charges 30% if they win, but it's way more than the VA will give you. They will only back pay till the day you filed the current claim which might be 6 months or a year. Talk to a lawyer. H&P looks to be really good, and they give so much information to help you get started and describe what level you should be at based on you're symptoms. Berry Law is helping me with mine.
The examiners even said that when I was working with DAV that all the records that they were submitting were a mess and hard to read through and find what they needed to support the claims.
@@gorak3716 thank you for the information. I’m working with Deuterman Law firm and I’ve also filed a intent to claim a while back and I’m hoping for the best. Sounds pretty spot on to what I’m going through
My exam is coming up soon. Your getting me into a better position for better results. Thank you both. 🙏
You can do it!
Remember, when they ask you how you're doing, DO NOT say you're fine, just mention how bad you feel and bring up your issues, this clues them into asking for more details, what they are supposed to do. You can drive the interview if you think about your issues and do not for any reason act like anything is fine/good or OK!
I did not get a higher rating from my interview. I was late getting some of the information that I needed and still do not have nearly all that I need, dates and full names. One issue may never get a rating, it would be so controversial, as it may not have been honestly disclosed when it occurred. I'm not entirely sure what to do next.
Check comments put in your VA Medical records after each appointment.
Outstanding! I have been on the fence for quite some time about starting the "claim process", but after viewing your videos a lot of the anxiety has been taken away. Thank you!
Check your VA Medical Records Notes. You will be amazed at the false notes put there.
I had a C&P exam yesterday for my bi-lateral hearing loss and tinnitus. The Audiologist asked me if I had any guns! Go figure!!
problems with older vets, the old paper private records from pre digital age are gone... all my records from illness in 1988 was disposed of under state law once the doctor has not seen that patient for 5 years. each state is different.
The VA dropped me from 90% to 80% which cost me over $200 a month. Their reason was one of my claims "showed improvement". Which I never once expressed to them. After speaking with a guy at a local DAV, i was informed the VA do that to punish when you have too many claims in succession
I've since been brought back up to 90% working on building evidence to get to that last 10%. I just don't know when I should attempt another rate increase
It's not the VA job to "punish" people. What a huge crock of shit.
@@eQuariuz I know it. The rating when back up after about 8 months. The whole ordeal really left me fearful of losing my percentages again, I rely on every dime to provide for my family
I don’t recall a seps interview in 03
Was shotgunned through medical, about 75 of us in one day.
From wheels up out of Iraq to dd214 in hand and discharged was about 9 days.
Recalled from the IRR on that trip.
From discharged dd214 in hand. 12 day notice on mobilization orders, ran trough a makeshift MCT course and sent to Iraq, all in less than 6 weeks.
Then sent home few months later with no notice.
Literally grab your gear we have a flight.
Going over was the same.
I was not a reservist, I was active duty, did my 5 years, got out and then recalled in 03.
The best thing to do is have a real Doctor that specializes in problem your having do an exam in the same time frame. I did this and the Neurologist I went to got it right and the VA sent me to her but then didn't want to accept her EMG findings. She said, Complete twice and the Contract witch Doctor said my foot and ankle still work without me there and the same date. I went from 0-90 percent last year. I found errors on every Decision. I won 3 Higher Level Reviews and got A BVA win and they slammed the Regional office and maxed me out on everything for the entire Appeal Period of 10 years.
The first mistake is going to the VA. in the first place for C&P. . Go to a real Doctor and get a nexus letter first. Because VA will try to discredit everything that you tell them. I know because it happened to me .
God Bless you both and Hill & Pontoon I'm 75 yr old viet vet that my last filing was in 1968 10% for scars now filing for Diabetes, etc last May , just recd notice
for my C& P for diabetes and diabetic neuropothy this coming feb 26 , thank you,thank youi for this video
I use an Alpha-Stim for PTSD, depression/anxiety,and for chronic muscle pain. I use and need a cane but only use the Alpha-Stim once or twice a day. I plan to bring it thanks you this video.
Reviewing and researching examiners…I’ve fired two and made LHI reschedule after I did my research. One was a child psychologist who was issued a cease and desist order by the board of forensic examiners. He was biased in child custody cases so the board ordered that he can never conduct forensic exams for court cases. Well, a C&P exam is a forensic exam. I sent that court order to an LHI supervisor and had my exam rescheduled. He also wrote some weird book without any Amazon ratings about youth social injustices in NYC. A child psychologist for a PTSD C&P exam….seriously, where does LHI find these nut jobs!
Thanks for the tip, Dimitra B. For those that don't know, like I didn't... LHI(Logistics Health Inc.) assists the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs in providing quality compensation and pension examinations to Veterans and separating Service members seeking benefits for service-connected health issues.
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Pretty sure my examiners was a child phycologist as well
My upcoming examiner .....is a female child psych and some type of home sciences enthusiast. Also has 2021 as a start date for this C&P position.
Does this sound right?
@@eQuariuz Let whoever scheduled her (ie LHI) know you researched her credentials and would like to be rescheduled with someone else because she doesn’t appear qualified.
I always told my story, and what I went through both before I was medically retired to going to every appointment. I also, hate VA Dr's trying to push meds, and then when you explain why. They try to say you're refusing medical treatment. The last annual appointment I physically went to. I took my civilian records. The Dr that kept pushing meds glanced over them. Note, I had 2 neck surgeries, and had brought those in to make sure that info was placed into my record.
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I was late to my C&P because my car literally caught on fire in traffic. I put out the fire, called them that I would be late and continued slowly. After the C&P I had to tow my car from Nashville to Ft Campbell, just to get it home and then to a repair shop.
The best advice I was ever given for a C&P exam was to remember, this is "not your" doctor. They are not there for your health, they are there to evaluate you for the VA.
Don’t go to the C&P exam. Have your own doctor fill out the DBQ.
@@frankshanks9726 will they deny you if you do this?
@@Sincerelyfatal They legally can’t.
@@Sincerelyfatal if you don't show up to C&P they'll definitely deny you.
@@Sincerelyfatal They will deny for not showing up
I separated in 1989. I told my examiner my problems, he took no notes of which I was aware, listened to my heart and lungs, hit my knees for knee-jerk, then said "10% non-compensable". OBTW: I was an elite powerlifter on the Army powerlifting team. He didn't mention my seizure disorder (which I finally got 40% due to a buddy statement because I didn't even know I had them) but at any rate...He did no real exam and didn't ask anything. Trust me, I am a doctor, and I know what a physical exam cosists of. However, now I can't go back and complain about that examiner, the lack of a real exam, and the fact that it was 20 years before I got my compensation; the VA had a neurology note dated 1988 stating that I just might have epilepsy!
The VA puts notes in your records after each appointment. Some notes are very accurate but some are not. Some notes will hinder your ability with future claims. Check your notes regularly.
I was deployed with the national guard when we got bsck state side went through a demobilization where the rumor mill was if you said no to everything you left when the exam was done, if you said yes to anything you wouldn't go home for days-weeks.
Y’all just reminded me when stationed in Takli Thailand that I was hospitalized for an unspecified flue like illness while being there in 1967 and 1968. I always thought it had to do with the herbicide they sprayed around our Hooches where poisonous were hidden.
I've had one exam that was taken via video. That exam mildly rose my rating for depression. I was suggested to look into TDIU, so I did. When I had the exam for that, this doctor said that he doesn't know why I wasn't moved to 100%. I sincerely think that the video appointments hide a lot, when you only really see head and shoulders.
I have never had a comp and penn for my ptsd face to face. It’s always been telemedicine. Wich I hate.
Greta information. I need to take the notes you recommended. I forget simple stuff when I’m get overwhelmed with crowds. Had to pick up 3 things at the Hardware store today, and almost forgot one of them. Luckily I had written them down.
I’m already getting a bit of anxiety about an upcoming exam, so knowing how to prepare helps.
Got my c&p for depression next week. Planning to use the notes I submitted to the VA so I don't miss any points. My memory isnt the best these days. Hopefully they'll allow me hit everything.
Hopefully! Good luck to you too!
Good luck battle. My memory is the worst. 92Y I kept track of all the things. Now a days......not so much. Journaling helps. Vlogging even. Fortunately, perhaps. My mania encourages me in grandiose delusion that I will be a RUclips influencer and so of course I have years worth of madness on video at this point. But journal entries, facebook post that show hey this was me I was happy or look same story 5 years later whatever those things help too.
I don't have buddies anymore to get statements from. Check that block for PTSD. Inability to form attachments. But I have stockpiles of B reels.
Yes, I can relate.
Rated 70% for mental health now thanks for the videos
@@NeoSoulCrew Your c&p went well then? Lol
I think there are many with service that just don't feel all the trouble of filing a claim is worth the effort .
This has been a very difficult process for myself. Thank you for all the tips on going to the exam and the insight from the physician was very informative. My problem is going to a C&P exam is stressful, which can trigger events. You are expecting yourself to know all of your medical info, be able to answer questions the correct way, be aware of the process you are in, float like a butterfly and sting like a bee etc. While all this is going on, add a migraine headache and anxiety to the mix and you can see that it is not realistic to get ironclad responses from the patient. In fact, I have a very hard time articulating thoughts or processing information or doing any critical thinking whatsoever. Of course, to yourself, this is normal but the people interviewing you do not know that.
PTSD exam tomorrow...nervous as hell...this video helped me chill out a bit. Thank You.
How’d it all pan out?
@@inked_icons went great, got a fair rating. Thanks for asking.
@@jamesreid6768 good to hear brother 👊🏼
Also extremely important to be focused and accurate when answering care givers. Your comments are reflected in the care givers' report and become part of your medical record. Your records should accurately depict your conditions.
Very good point!
Thanks I'm going to do my best,I'm going to be Honest and that's all I can do!!
I wish I knew some of this a few years ago during my MEB. I was afraid of being judged that I didn’t mention how much my personal hygiene was/is affected my mental health and if I had I would be at 100%. Don’t be afraid of judgement y’all
It sucks. I'm going through it now my command is always asking me questions why I won't stay in the office and why I keep going to my car and isolating. I'm so mentally over the whole thing 😩
@@meganmiller9752 keep doing YOUR best. Obviously Communicate what you need to from a work stand point, I mean looking like you’re shamming is not fun especially when that’s not the case at all. But Don’t be embarrassed. You have to set yourself up for success after you’re out. That goes for mental health too
@@meganmiller9752 Sounds like you have some kind of social fears from childhood or young adulthood.
Records - I found the St. Louis archieves only had my separation physical, while my "C file" had all my medical records. I also found the C&P Examiners were overwhelmed by the amount of files sent to them (3,000 pdf pages) and asked me for the relevent files. I found I was the only one that knew everything in my file. I had to email my Independent medical opinion to one examiner, because the file was mislabeled.
THE VA IN THE 60S, 70S AND EVEN INTO THE 80S...USE TO GIVE THE VETERAN ALL HIS RECORDS TO PHYSICALLY CARRY BY HAND TO CARRY TO A NEW VA...WAS NOT COMPUTERIZED....👍
I reported to sea duty with my medical records in hand in the year 2000
The relevant records while in the Service need to be given to the Veterans Benefits Administration to put into the Veterans C-File.
I made a huge mistake prior to my C&P by medicating myself for pain. It wasn't that big of a deal until he started doing range-of-motion tests.
I went to see a C&P contracted physician for a increase in my knees which I am 30%. Know once did she do a physician exam or range of motion, she seem to care less about the pain I was in. Also for PTSD, when the examiner ask when you first get there, hello how are you today. If you say fine or ok that counts against you. WTF. They want us to be honest which we should but with a lot of the examiners it doesn't matter these mofos are like insurance companies looking loop hole to deny you.
yeah if you're on pain meds I'd stop them for the exam and stop when you feel pain thats It. all doctors won't want you to hurt yourself.
Thank you for what you do for me and my Fellow Vets. Jim. Mahan
Mental health is a crual thing. Its easy to act like you are ok for a few hrs when you go out to public places But nobody is there when its2 or 3 am and your suffering from it at your worst.
Cummicate it
Just some constructive criticism if wanted. I am brand new to the VA process even though I exited service over a decade ago. The anxiety of the VA monster kept me away for a long time. Luckily, I found Vet Guardian to fight them for me. Just listening to the two of you talk about the process is bringing anxiety back, and here is why. I stopped the video at 7:25. I have no doubt that the two of you are incredibly knowledgeable and passionate about helping us veterans. However, most of us are not lawyers or phycologist, and the language is way above our heads. Using acronyms without context starts to loose us. Then continuing to move forward without explanation starts to give anxiety. Within minutes I was lost and had no clue what you two were talking about any longer. Slow down and dumb down for us a little bit. I'm going to move on to another channel but hopefully this helps you guys grow more. Good luck
So true even my psychologist ask me very weird questions with words I don't know. I say I don't speak your language.
As a reservist, retired in 2011 with 28 years of service and was not afforded a separation physical. I was a IMA (Individual Mobilization Augmentee) so the separation was done with me resigning my commision and since I am under 60 I am still in the retired reserve (Gray area Reservist). I asked for a separation physical and I was told there would be none. Emailed me my separation/retirement orders and it was done. No big ceremony. I have been able to get 60% with some Nexus letters from my civilian Dr and a BVA review that took 7 years. So it is possible but takes time. I did have some medical treatment records that was before my retirement date but most were from civilian or VA doctors and not from a military facility since reservists do not normally go to military facilities since they are no on duty for long periods of time and cannot get an appt for non emergency issues before coming off of orders. At least that is my experience. Any other Reservists want to share their experience?
Same I didn't get a sep physiical either and I had been on my 2nd mobilization over a period of 9 years and retired after 22. No medical nothing just my info from PERS and my point capture sheet etc. I had a service connected rating prior and now I feel I have a secondary condition because of it and will file a new claim. I need a nexus letter and have a VA appointment next month. Hopefully I can get increase in my primary and add my secondary as well.
Or if you worked at Area51, there are no records. 85-89 stationed in the middle of nowhere and two feet from hell on the F-117A. Also a secret FOB during Desert Storm. Retired 2010 (29yrs USAF) 11yrs later…100% P&T. Turkey 4x, Dijibouti 3x, Afghanistan, Iceland, Okinawa, South Korea, and more. Awesome years with the 304th Rescue Sq.
Excellent advice, thank you. I believe veterans have a tendency to downplay their issues. There’s a little voice in their head telling them to suck it up, be a man. I have an exam in a few weeks. I already know I will be sitting there thinking: “some other veterans are more needy and deserving than I am to receive monthly payments; maybe I should pull the plug on the exam and just go home.”
I went for a PTSD percentage increase. It was grueling because the Doc had me start from the beginning, life before army, during army and after army. It was not a simple review.
Cowboy good to know.
How did the end result turn out? I want to do the same thing but scared of loosing my current rating :(
Important that your "before" service story you tell them that it was normal. If you go into all your upbringing problems they will say your symptoms started before service
At the end of the day it boils down to who is reviewing your claim and who is examining you.
These C&P examiners arent considering laystatements, they are throughly looking through your claim.
VSR isn't looking through your records thoroughly and the RVSR may not catch everything
Tips: when you submit your medical records HIGHLIGHT your evidence. When you submit your statements, BRING THEM TO YOUR EXAMINER GET A COPY OF YOUR DBQ RESULTS
BE CAREFUL WITH PRIVATE POAs all they do is submit a cookie cutter statement to the VA...on your behalf
It was the so-called "laystatements" that resulted in my Total & Permanent rating.
I have had over a dozen c/p. I am totally convinced that the v.a. dies not look at results. The entire system is faulted.
Why does everything have to be so confusing and complicated when it comes to the VA?
That's a darn good question, T bone.
I disagree with #3 mistake. I have brought documents to c&p exam and the examiners wanted no part of them
What do you do when your record cannot be found by the national archives?
Tough to provide documentation when medical records are "lost" or destroyed by a volcano erupting. Even when trying to get tested for problems, and getting treated by someone who didn't deem it necessary to conduct testing for something he could misdiagnose readily. So, 2nd degree sun burns and falling down a mountain during training, with bruised ribs, concussion and dislocated jaw, the being given a diagnosis of a "slightly deviated septum" and later finding out it was actually severe sleep apnea and deemed "too late for a re-evaluation". Yeah, I'd rather see a witch doctor or rot in a gutter then have to try to deal with the VA again.
Wish I'd known then, what I know now. Hope others can benefit from this information before that door closes.
Speaking a lot of TRUTH about PTSD and depression. It does take a lot to get out of the house some days.
Thank you for that information, I can relate to everything you have said. It really makes me realize that I do have a lot of things that I need to deal with. I just need to work up the nerve to let someone know what's really going on with me.....thank you for your great job.
Wow this was a ton of information. Thank You for sharing your wisdom
my records are from de paul hospital mental ward, balboa mental ward, camp pendleton hospital and camp pendleton mental health and my records. i put all that in my records before i turned it in. my personal copies have all that too.
W O W . . . . . . . , I just deleted the most angry bullshit I have ever said in a comment. The two of you are so inspiring, I want to be a client the day after my 50 year old appeal . with 80% hearing loss I won 40% rating. With deep , deep, "complex ptsd", and my complex personality, (my wife on her death bed said she had never known a nicer guy). Something you said in the first 5 minutes , and my fears and doubts triggered me. Pray for me on August 3rd. My VSO Officer I think was sent by God. I trust DAV and Judges like I do Desert Vipers, and angry thugs. Tim at VSO will be my moderator. See you soon Hill and Ponton... Tim thought that should be my next move, after 50 years of hell and depression,anxiety.....P T S D .
My three C & P exams involved hard numbers and imaging with two questions on tinnitus nothing more , very different from what you are discussing - pulmonary mechanics (lung function) , audiometer ( hearing test ) and a chest x ray no medical doctors involved.
#9 also includes well behaved service dog (in my case a potty trained puppy in training which the examiner appreciated).
Great point! We'll make sure to bring up service animals next time ✅
#9 Concerning Physical Health and Depression, I talked with my Pain Management Doctor about depression one day. He said Dennis with the amount of pain and amount of drugs you have to take, I'd be worried if you weren't depressed. D@mn if that didn't make me feel better.
In reference to Mistake #1, Not reviewing your records...I filed for my entire C File over a year ago and am still waiting...really, how long does it take 1 person to look at the records in my file and print them out, put them in an envelope and send them to me?...About an hour!
In other situations I was deployed to numerous locations and whatever happened there WAS NOT recorded. I went to see Doctors in the Clinic's at those remote locations post battle encounters where I couldn't hear at all...and the doctor just said, it will go away and NOTHING was ever put in to my record. Then the VA asks for those records which were never properly created/saved. How does that work? The VA takes advantage of the Veterans situations like this to deny the Veteran their just disability compensation.
The day of my C&P exam was a day to remember - My neck was broken my legs sanpped crackled and POPPED he saw the back of my Head and didnt get a response that mentioned this, am I pissed off yes, I lost someone I loved and cared about cause whoever was watching me wanted the one upper over me to have there will be a GIVEN!
Excellent take-away!
You guys were right about one thing we stop going as veterans because the care we get is ridiculously bad I went in for 1 physical while I was still in the military they told me I had the journey to arthritis in my neck The following year the year I got out I had bone spurs In the same area I asked them what they were gonna do they didn't do anything I haven't gottenDegenerative arthritis am I lower back now When I was diagnosed with it in 2012 and in 2013 I had the bone spurs I complained about it since 2004 when I was still in the military about my lower back I'm assuming they finally really looked at the x-rays and now I have degenerated far threatened to my lower back
Thanks for the info. But, this didn’t make me feel any better about filing.
After my exam (in Delaware 2009), I went to the DAV for assistance. The DAV rep gave me the "oh you saw ... I don't know why the VA keeps him".
Lots of VA reps not good. One told me I could not claim what I did. I got approved.
Excellent overview. Thank you both very much.
A few years ago I went for C&P for my tinnitus. The examiner was a middle eastern (
?) woman. First thing she asked me if I was ever exposed to loud noises. I started to become very angry, but not visibly. I am a combat veteran, and for her to ask me that was extremely insulting. She asked me to go into the small room where she put headphones on me to start the audio exam. I started having a panic attack, probably from the anger. Needless to say, in a rush to get out of the room, I failed the test. The VA cancelled the Tinnitus rating I had.
So they called you in for a RE-EVALUATION of your already rated Tinnitus??
To put it all in one sentence, aggravating the aggravated is the same as fatiguing the already fatigued . My Psychiatrist put a name on it sooo long that I have trouble remembering what terminology he used. But it had to do how much my wife tried to control me, and I just let it run off my back. He called it “ Severe Depersonalization Syndrome “. The poor thing died in 2005 and the Doctor said there’s good and bad in everything.
During a C&P exam, I brought documents but I was told I didn’t need it.
Awesome, both of you are amazing, love your technique ideas and love you both
Thank you for the tips, very helpful!
Except for first of 4 C and P exam what do you do if you are not told who your examiner is even if you call and ask in Louisville, KY last 3 exams I was told when I ask, “who ever gets your file, we don’t know who will be here until they get here.” And even when requested to use them last 3 doctors refused or stated they don’t have access to the device to measure range of motion last exam back and neck they stated MRI reports done at Louisville VA doctor stated “that my last MRI was 1997, “exam in 2016, ‘was last MRI.” Even telling them the dates of 7 more recent MRI’s the examiner even flat out told me I was lying and argued with me after I informed her that they would not do a spinal fusion, in 2015, as seen on the x-ray without first doing a MRI.
Why is it so difficult for Medically-Retired Veterans to get service-connection for that same disability?
Use the services of a DAV Rep.
I never received a separation exam from the Navy. I was Forward Deployed and was in OEF & OIF.
I've used buddy statements. But, still got denied. The reason would be that it's not in my medical records.
Yup, you need medical evidence and evidence from active duty documented
That definitely was worth the watch and helped me to understand somethings about my review thats coming.
Just yesterday, April 26th, I had a fourth C&P Exam. I was examined by a retired MD who did not practice in the field that he was examining me for. However, MD's do have basic training and understanding in all medical fields. I prepare for a C&P Exam like I used to prepare for a job interview. I study to verbally perfect the presentation of my current medical condition and to have my most recent exam electronically sent to the examiner from my doctor. I also bring a printed copy to the exam with me. It's very important that you also bring a copy of your most recent evaluation by the VA which will state the Rating Decision, Evidence, and Reasons for the Decision. My examiner wanted to see it as a guideline for his evaluation. All I can say is that I was glad that I had prepared and brought pertinent documentation as the examiner was very thorough and asked a lot of pointed questions that I had to search my memory to answer. I would advise anyone, that is going in for a C&P Exam, not to lie or enhance their condition in hopes of a more favorable evaluation. Just answer truthfully as these examiners are trained to spot fabricated responses.
That's too much work. They have your documents. They don't need you to bring anything. I know these docs don't like it when you started talking like a doctor. All they want to hear is how you feel and what part of your body it limits.
@@stealth1077 They only have the most recent documents if your specialist has sent to the VA electronically. The most recent evaluation is what is important. Many private doctors don't do this. I had my specialist print me out my most recent exam, copied it, and emailed to the VA Contractor's Examiner. As I leave nothing to chance I also brought copies with me to the exam. Since I'm on 100% disability and don't want to lose it because it somehow was considered "too much work".
Very good tips !! Thanks Dr B !!
Alot of good Info to digest.
Have my private doctors medical on cd. But the V.a. an attorney because it was not submitted unless it was a request from there office
Most, if not all, of these excuses for failing a C&P exam are exactly that, excuses. When a vet fails to prepare for this exam or fails to bring documents to support the claim usually there are no documents. Not that they are hard to acquire or missing but simply because they do not exist. Many vets attempt to gain a higher rating without additional information to support that claim. If a vet has a disability and has been treated for it then there are documents to support it. Failing to supply those documents surely means the hearing will result in failure and the vet is totally aware of that fact. I have been in that position and I went to each and every hearing fully prepared and aware of exactly what was required of me. I did not have to act in any way other than what was natural to my character and I surely did not attempt to mislead anyone. All ligitimate claims with supporting documentation are virtually impossible for the VA to deny but that does not mean a single C&P hearing will result in a 100% rating, that usually takes several attempts. It is natural to be discouraged but unwise to give up and not continue to fight for what you are entitled to. It is a process that the vet has control of but the bottom line is that there must be a ligitimate disability and there must be documentation to support the claim. Without that the possibility of gaining a higher rating remain low.
Good video, I'm waiting for my exam.
I had an opportunity to
ac company of veteran to one of these exams and I felt sorry for the vent afterwards he was totally on a prepared.. I plan to let him look at this and hopefully he gets another chance...
How do you research your assigned provider?
Is there a website? Please provide this info. Thank you.
Google is your friend in these scenarios. Once you know the doctor or office, you can try a search.