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My Reserve 52/63 in a 240 hub weigh 1,558g. I believe the Reserve 42/49s in a 240 hub should sit around 1390g to 1420g. Killer wheels! Another issue with the bontragers is that the rim strips that come stock with them weigh close to 75g a wheel, which is a tonne!
Feel so good after watching this and reading the Grandfondo article. I’ve just bought some Reserve 52/63. Crappy zipp hubs but they’ll do until next year and then I’ll swap them for some DT 180. Great video fella.
Loved the video and loved the results, since I have a set of Reserve 52/63 with the DT 240's. When I weighed mine (with rim tape, no valves) the total was 1549 gram. So not sure if Reserve is being on the safe side with the claimed weight or I got lucky with a light set. Again, loved the vid and can't wait for future content. Keep up the great work!
After testing the reserve wheels it would be so interesting if you would get the CRW Works 50-60 they are like 1250g for the set same profile and not that expensive.
I've got 303 firecrest on my road bike, 303s on a gravel bike and reserve 40/44 on my titanium gravel bike. I've only ridden the reserves a couple of times but they're fast really fast even with a nobbly tyre on the road. The build quality feels better than zipps as well.
For true consistency, rather than setting the pressure to be the same for each wheelset, you should set the pressure to obtain the same drop when loaded with a rider. Since that's actually a huge PITA, using something like the Silca tire pressure calculator to set the pressure according to the measured width of the tire (which aims to basically achieve the same thing) would also work.
I have Roval Rapide CLX II and CL II very fast even in climbs and stable in crosswinds too! Based on experience, they are worth the price. I am delighted to own them.✌
I recently purchased the Rapide CL II thinking the cheap ones would be fine as they are the same rim. Do the CLX II performance any better? Also, is there much difference in weight? Thanks!
@EddyCat1234 CLii and the CLXii are the same shape..the CLXii just uses different hubs and bladed spokes..but honestly I own both and I still can't feel the difference..I love my CLii wheels on my SL7 because of the 350 hub which is so easy to clean, maintain and swap out ratchets ..my CLXii wheels are on my newer s-works tarmac SL8 and they feel great as well..the weight difference is so small between the CL and CLX wheels that the average rider probably wouldn't feel the difference..they say the CLXii wheels spin better because of the ceramic hubs and less rolling resistance due to bladed spokes..I like both
Science is great. Naturally the Reserves would come out on top as they were designed integrally with the Cervelo S5. Naturally the Zipp 353NSWs should be the slowest, being less deep than the rest and the tyre blowing out to be wider than the wheel itself.
Do you guys do overlanding with your trucks? Or at least go camping with them? Either content would be interesting. There is a bit of content overlap between the bikepacking community and the overlanding or truck camping community. I see more and more guys bringing their bicycles along (gravel or mountain) to do some exploring of the jeep trails when they set up camp for the night with their truck. You guys are close enough to northwest Arkansas to do a road trip down there to maybe join some fellow RUclipsrs at Ozark Overlanding on one of their weekend outings. Maybe ask them to do a channel collab and tell them to take you on one of the easier (not too technical) offroad trips with your truck... and then you Bicycle Station boys can set out on your own and do some mountain biking on the jeep roads after truck camp set up for the day.
I would avoid the 454s just because you weight & the fact those zipps are hookless. For a road setup, this would mean your optimal tire pressure is going to be closer to the maximum pressure of 72psi for hookless. I would go with a hooked wheel at your weight even if you do run lower pressure than the limit. I would take a look at the new 42/49 Reserve wheels, I bet you would love them. They are bombproof, hooked rim, super fast & light for their depth + lifetime warranty.
@@christophercarr7971 Those would be a great option for a pure aero wheelset. I recommend the 42/49 because they are still super fast for their depth & were designed a bit more recently. Also they will be lighter & have better crosswind stability. That said, I am sure being 6'4" and riding XL you know how to handle the winds a bit better than small guys and those deeper wheels would definitely look better on the XL frame imo. Try to snag the version with DT240 or 180 and you won't be let down.
The Reserves also have the regular zipp hubs found on the firecrest wheels. Zipp has some explaining to do as to why there NSW wheels aren't as fast. Edit: Just remembered those Reserves where made specifically for the Cervelo. This might explain their performance.
I mentioned that but I think our editor cut it out. The nsw wheels are the oldest on text. I think that’s why they didn’t do as well. Everything is wider now. To be fair I still think the 353 is the best possible shallow wheelset
@@bicyclestation The nsw has the cognition hubs which is supposedly the upgraded hubs from the ZR1 found on the firecrest wheels - and if I'm not mistaken also found on the Reserves. I'm only a little salty because I have both Zipp 404 Firecrest and 353 NSWs. Still love Zipps.
I am wondering how much of the heaviness of the Reserves is down to the Hub/Spokes vs just the rim, if the rims aren’t horrible, a 180 hub+ plus some sapim carbon spokes could make a dent. Do yall ever just buy the rims from reserve?
I just looked it up. It’s like 80 grams lighter for the 180 hubs. You’re right but it’s still significant at this scale. Don’t know the math on the spokes. Reserve says the 180 version weighs 1576
I havent watched the video yet, but just dropped an ungodly amount of cash for zipp nsw over cheaper enve. hopefully i am not disappointed with the results
They couldn’t get the tyres inflated on them in the test. When I’ve had this I usually put a few layers normal narrow electrical tape on in the centre Chanel before putting the tubeless tape on. Helps make the inner channel make the tyre tighter. I’m sure there’s something about that in the enve instructions.
Chinese wheelsets are cheeper because they don’t have employees you can call or functional warranty departments. I think they would perform fine. The issue is when they have a problem. That’s why western companies charge more. They have employees who you can talk to about the problems. The salary of these employees is wrapped up in the price of the product.
I have Farsports and Enve. Farsports quality of carbon is quite low. Its like different material than Enves. Stones hits (or whatever reason) cause pieces of rim lamination (or whatever it is) to chip. My wheels look like 10 years old after 2 years. Hubs are alright as they are DTswiss. Enves are bombproof rims and I suspect will last 10-15 years quite easily with intense use.
I’ve had a set of farsports with 240exp hubs and DT spokes. Price of the rim was like $100 doing the math so always figured if there was an issue I could replace the rim. And recently swapped them from hg to xdr in 10 seconds. The new stuff with proprietary hubs and carbon spokes is ridiculous. They might be decent quality, but if you break a spoke or need a new hub part….
@@DanTuber yes, they are fine for average joe (in good way) with limited budget and moderate use, but in long term (let say 6-10 years) and more intense use, something like Enve will be cheaper and way more trouble-free option.
We own all these wheels sets and don’t own any of thoes wheelsets. Would be happy to if the brands wanted to send us a pair. Recently a brand I won’t name from China reached out and wanted us to make a video about their wheels. But with that they sent this insane contract where we had to shill them so hard we turned it down. We purchased all these wheels and don’t have to lie to yall about it. Also the reserves are sub 2k for reference.
@@bicyclestation Ok, not cool about this contract thingy, i'm sure if you reach out to them with your terms, some brands would gladdly send you some of their wheels. :) The Reserve wheels are pretty heavy tho, even with the lightest DTSwiss hub :/
I don’t really have an incentive to reach out to them unfortunately. We make money via selling customer builds and aftermarket parts from the manufacturers we highlight in these videos. It would be hard to convince a wide audience to suddenly jump on a Chinese wheelset. In our own experience with them, LUN sent us a wheelset pre us doing RUclips. It exploded and their warranty department was so bad I’d never recommend them again. I don’t wanna put our customers through that headache. Exactly. That’s why I think the rapids are the better set light and fast. -Jesse
Because these wheels reviewed in this video can be serviced and warranted through a local dealer network in many parts of the World. The mainland Chinese brands OP mentioned have a considerable timezone cost and shipping issue that makes timely warranty claims, service, and parts a major challenge.
Cuz he rides super bikes like madone SLR and sworks. People who buying sworks won’t rides a hyper d45 on them. I had hyper d45 they are cheap and fast on my training bike but i probably don’t wanna use it on my super bike.
So the Tarmac SL8 is 'harsh' - can we expect Nero Show Chris Miller and Jesse to dedicate a whole pod to that? I'm guessing no because they have an agenda.
Definitely appreciate the exposure from that but yea. I didn’t intend for that video to start so much drama. Trey said that like a year ago when the channel was smaller. I disagreed with him at the time. But we both agreed that the gen 7 Madone was more comfortable then the sl8. Unfortunately the gen 8 ends up being harsher than any other bike we’ve tried.
I don't find the s-works SL8 tarmac harsh at all..its alot smoother than my older SL7..the S5 cervelo has a harsh ride..the most comfortable aero bike I've road yet was my trek madone SLR gen7 which I sold a few months back..
@@bicyclestation I guess comfort is in the 'ass' of the beholder. I've seen lots of Madone owners on forums etc saying gen 8 is more comfortable than gen 7. It annoyed me how Chris & Jesse jumped on your review as it feels like they were waiting for it so they could drive some engagement and because they don't like the direction that Trek have taken. To label the bike 'a dog' was ridiculous, it wasn't balanced against other reviews and their owm personal experience of the bike is very limited.
Very cool video. One thing: there is no need to do 300 watt efforts. If you just give your favorite AI app your data, it will calculate your CdA for the effort based on whatever power you did. I’d be happy to help you guys analyze this data more
DT Swiss are great hubs but not perfect. Major advantage of other brands like Enve Inner Drive, Carbon Ti, HED AAND Chris King are one piece axles. Combines with thru axle much stiffer than DT Swiss that rely on end caps.
You need to test the CRW 65/75 wheelset. They are lighter, faster, less expensive and sprint better than any of the wheelsets you tested. Bonus - they are wide too and can run 30+ with ease and remain aero.
would literally not buy any of those wheels. All way overpriced. My prime 56mm wheels are 23mm internal & 30mm external. 1620g and cost me £500. These companies rip the piss.
Prime claims those wheels weigh 1795 btw. So the price of a product is determined by a bunch of different factors. Employee overhead, rnd development cost, marketing. Just tons of factors. Prime seems to be cutting cost in places to hit that price point. It’s always a trade off. Not saying what they are doing is wrong. But they have clearly positioned themselves to be a budget option.
Idk man. The 353 has been probably the best most consistent wheelset I’ve ever owned. I’ve been running them for 3 years now. Everyone also loves the firecrest also
@@kubackjeee You misundersood sth. He just uses those wheels, like great nr of other guys. It you who believe in sth and try so hard to spread your very important belief😂
this video looked like a total pain to make - thanks for going through with it and giving us that good stuff! keep up the great work
I have so many subscriptions, absorb so much content and you two are my favourite. Perfect balance of natural friendship inspired humour with valuable trade insights and attention to detail. Top job....love it
My Reserve 52/63 in a 240 hub weigh 1,558g. I believe the Reserve 42/49s in a 240 hub should sit around 1390g to 1420g. Killer wheels!
Another issue with the bontragers is that the rim strips that come stock with them weigh close to 75g a wheel, which is a tonne!
Great video! As usual you express your opinions and thoughts clearly and directly! Even if you sell these wheels you are very transparent and honest.
Feel so good after watching this and reading the Grandfondo article. I’ve just bought some Reserve 52/63. Crappy zipp hubs but they’ll do until next year and then I’ll swap them for some DT 180.
Great video fella.
Good comparison. Would love to see a similar video with gravel wheels (e.g., Reserve 40/44 GR, Zipp 303 xplr, Roval Terra, etc.)
That’s in the works. Gotta buy some new wheels lol
Thank you very much for this interesting test. I know its a lot of effort and work but its worth it. Thats the test we cycling nerds wanna see.
Loved the video and loved the results, since I have a set of Reserve 52/63 with the DT 240's. When I weighed mine (with rim tape, no valves) the total was 1549 gram. So not sure if Reserve is being on the safe side with the claimed weight or I got lucky with a light set.
Again, loved the vid and can't wait for future content. Keep up the great work!
After testing the reserve wheels it would be so interesting if you would get the CRW Works 50-60 they are like 1250g for the set same profile and not that expensive.
I've got 303 firecrest on my road bike, 303s on a gravel bike and reserve 40/44 on my titanium gravel bike. I've only ridden the reserves a couple of times but they're fast really fast even with a nobbly tyre on the road. The build quality feels better than zipps as well.
For true consistency, rather than setting the pressure to be the same for each wheelset, you should set the pressure to obtain the same drop when loaded with a rider. Since that's actually a huge PITA, using something like the Silca tire pressure calculator to set the pressure according to the measured width of the tire (which aims to basically achieve the same thing) would also work.
That’s fair. I think what we did is more real world though. Most customers know what pressure they run and don’t divert from that once they decide.
Informative and entertaining. Great content guys!
Farsports, Magene, and No.6 wheels !
My mind is ready
Great vid guys 👍 I may have missed it during your introduction, what tyres were you running & do you recommend them❓Keep up the great work👌
4 months into using Reserves 3437 on my gravel. 5stars in every category I can think of.
353 are good also for gravel?
I would’ve liked to see the Enve 4.5s instead of the 3.4s
dang, wish you had been able to add Princeton Wake Evolution 6560 to the mix! great roundup overall though.
Would love to see you guys do an overview or review on the new gen checkpoint. Been riding it myself and have really enjoyed it.
We will be doing an in depth review of the checkmate I know that for sure. We haven’t gotten a checkpoint in yet
@@bicyclestation Awesome to hear that about the checkmate. Thanks for the reply.
I have Roval Rapide CLX II and CL II very fast even in climbs and stable in crosswinds too! Based on experience, they are worth the price. I am delighted to own them.✌
I recently purchased the Rapide CL II thinking the cheap ones would be fine as they are the same rim. Do the CLX II performance any better? Also, is there much difference in weight? Thanks!
@EddyCat1234 CLii and the CLXii are the same shape..the CLXii just uses different hubs and bladed spokes..but honestly I own both and I still can't feel the difference..I love my CLii wheels on my SL7 because of the 350 hub which is so easy to clean, maintain and swap out ratchets ..my CLXii wheels are on my newer s-works tarmac SL8 and they feel great as well..the weight difference is so small between the CL and CLX wheels that the average rider probably wouldn't feel the difference..they say the CLXii wheels spin better because of the ceramic hubs and less rolling resistance due to bladed spokes..I like both
@@LOGICAL-JAY thx Jay. Much appreciated
@EddyCat1234 anytime bro..you're welcome..
I was hoping the tree boys would make another appearance.
The rovals with the white decals look real good in the s5
Science is great. Naturally the Reserves would come out on top as they were designed integrally with the Cervelo S5. Naturally the Zipp 353NSWs should be the slowest, being less deep than the rest and the tyre blowing out to be wider than the wheel itself.
Please put time stamps in the next version of this video should you do one
Do you guys do overlanding with your trucks? Or at least go camping with them? Either content would be interesting.
There is a bit of content overlap between the bikepacking community and the overlanding or truck camping community. I see more and more guys bringing their bicycles along (gravel or mountain) to do some exploring of the jeep trails when they set up camp for the night with their truck.
You guys are close enough to northwest Arkansas to do a road trip down there to maybe join some fellow RUclipsrs at Ozark Overlanding on one of their weekend outings. Maybe ask them to do a channel collab and tell them to take you on one of the easier (not too technical) offroad trips with your truck... and then you Bicycle Station boys can set out on your own and do some mountain biking on the jeep roads after truck camp set up for the day.
I'm 195lbs, should I be afraid of failure on 454s? Looking at a bike that comes with them, on the fence because of the Zipps. You guys are awesome!
I would avoid the 454s just because you weight & the fact those zipps are hookless. For a road setup, this would mean your optimal tire pressure is going to be closer to the maximum pressure of 72psi for hookless. I would go with a hooked wheel at your weight even if you do run lower pressure than the limit. I would take a look at the new 42/49 Reserve wheels, I bet you would love them. They are bombproof, hooked rim, super fast & light for their depth + lifetime warranty.
@@nickspano4709 Thanks Nick. I was thinking the 52 63. Im 6'4" and ride an XL, thinking I need the bigger wheels to look good on an XL Canyon Aeroad.
@@christophercarr7971 Those would be a great option for a pure aero wheelset. I recommend the 42/49 because they are still super fast for their depth & were designed a bit more recently. Also they will be lighter & have better crosswind stability.
That said, I am sure being 6'4" and riding XL you know how to handle the winds a bit better than small guys and those deeper wheels would definitely look better on the XL frame imo. Try to snag the version with DT240 or 180 and you won't be let down.
The Reserves also have the regular zipp hubs found on the firecrest wheels. Zipp has some explaining to do as to why there NSW wheels aren't as fast.
Edit: Just remembered those Reserves where made specifically for the Cervelo. This might explain their performance.
I mentioned that but I think our editor cut it out. The nsw wheels are the oldest on text. I think that’s why they didn’t do as well. Everything is wider now.
To be fair I still think the 353 is the best possible shallow wheelset
@@bicyclestation The nsw has the cognition hubs which is supposedly the upgraded hubs from the ZR1 found on the firecrest wheels - and if I'm not mistaken also found on the Reserves.
I'm only a little salty because I have both Zipp 404 Firecrest and 353 NSWs. Still love Zipps.
I wouldn’t be salty about owning the zipps. I seriously think the 353s are great. They never were ment to be aero which is all we tested in this video
The rovals are good-looking, but they are heavy like 15xxg. I am thinking about the Cadex ut 50🤔
They are 1380 grams
I am wondering how much of the heaviness of the Reserves is down to the Hub/Spokes vs just the rim, if the rims aren’t horrible, a 180 hub+ plus some sapim carbon spokes could make a dent.
Do yall ever just buy the rims from reserve?
I just looked it up. It’s like 80 grams lighter for the 180 hubs. You’re right but it’s still significant at this scale. Don’t know the math on the spokes. Reserve says the 180 version weighs 1576
No truck stuff
I'm confused...about bicycle wheels.
Where are the Princeton carbonworks
A few seconds difference among these wheels. Just buy what you can afford. All these wheels perform well imo.
they say 105% or 110% (rim wider than the tire)
Would've been nice if PCW Wake 6560 was included in the review
Do you think that that time advantage on the reserves could be partly due to them being designed along side the Cervelo?
Miss Princenton Wheels in the compare
I havent watched the video yet, but just dropped an ungodly amount of cash for zipp nsw over cheaper enve. hopefully i am not disappointed with the results
im cooked gang
@@antoinetran900😂
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Any reason you excluded the wheels that the TDF winner and world champion rides?
They couldn’t get the tyres inflated on them in the test.
When I’ve had this I usually put a few layers normal narrow electrical tape on in the centre Chanel before putting the tubeless tape on. Helps make the inner channel make the tyre tighter.
I’m sure there’s something about that in the enve instructions.
The GOAT rides ENVE 4.5’a not 3.4’s
We had 4.5s but then someone bought them so we didn’t have them to test anymore. Definitely good wheels. Just didn’t work out logically
Have you guys ever ridden any of the Chinese Farsports wheels? I wonder how they would compare considering how much cheaper they are.
Chinese wheelsets are cheeper because they don’t have employees you can call or functional warranty departments. I think they would perform fine. The issue is when they have a problem. That’s why western companies charge more. They have employees who you can talk to about the problems. The salary of these employees is wrapped up in the price of the product.
I have Farsports and Enve. Farsports quality of carbon is quite low. Its like different material than Enves. Stones hits (or whatever reason) cause pieces of rim lamination (or whatever it is) to chip. My wheels look like 10 years old after 2 years. Hubs are alright as they are DTswiss. Enves are bombproof rims and I suspect will last 10-15 years quite easily with intense use.
I’ve had a set of farsports with 240exp hubs and DT spokes. Price of the rim was like $100 doing the math so always figured if there was an issue I could replace the rim. And recently swapped them from hg to xdr in 10 seconds. The new stuff with proprietary hubs and carbon spokes is ridiculous. They might be decent quality, but if you break a spoke or need a new hub part….
@@jou3708 I have Farsports and they have been fine. No delamination. Yes they get scratched but nothing major and no different to any other wheels.
@@DanTuber yes, they are fine for average joe (in good way) with limited budget and moderate use, but in long term (let say 6-10 years) and more intense use, something like Enve will be cheaper and way more trouble-free option.
Not surprised, I googled it and humpback whales can only go like 16 mph. They didn't stand a chance.
6:07 your tire is on backwards
LOL, my pair of wheels weighs only a bit more than your back wheels......
Why are you not comparing them with fair priced wheels like Elitewheels, Yoeloe, Ican, Farsport and others ?
We own all these wheels sets and don’t own any of thoes wheelsets. Would be happy to if the brands wanted to send us a pair. Recently a brand I won’t name from China reached out and wanted us to make a video about their wheels. But with that they sent this insane contract where we had to shill them so hard we turned it down. We purchased all these wheels and don’t have to lie to yall about it. Also the reserves are sub 2k for reference.
@@bicyclestation Ok, not cool about this contract thingy, i'm sure if you reach out to them with your terms, some brands would gladdly send you some of their wheels. :)
The Reserve wheels are pretty heavy tho, even with the lightest DTSwiss hub :/
I don’t really have an incentive to reach out to them unfortunately. We make money via selling customer builds and aftermarket parts from the manufacturers we highlight in these videos. It would be hard to convince a wide audience to suddenly jump on a Chinese wheelset. In our own experience with them, LUN sent us a wheelset pre us doing RUclips. It exploded and their warranty department was so bad I’d never recommend them again. I don’t wanna put our customers through that headache.
Exactly. That’s why I think the rapids are the better set light and fast.
-Jesse
Because these wheels reviewed in this video can be serviced and warranted through a local dealer network in many parts of the World. The mainland Chinese brands OP mentioned have a considerable timezone cost and shipping issue that makes timely warranty claims, service, and parts a major challenge.
Cuz he rides super bikes like madone SLR and sworks. People who buying sworks won’t rides a hyper d45 on them. I had hyper d45 they are cheap and fast on my training bike but i probably don’t wanna use it on my super bike.
So the Tarmac SL8 is 'harsh' - can we expect Nero Show Chris Miller and Jesse to dedicate a whole pod to that? I'm guessing no because they have an agenda.
Definitely appreciate the exposure from that but yea. I didn’t intend for that video to start so much drama. Trey said that like a year ago when the channel was smaller. I disagreed with him at the time. But we both agreed that the gen 7 Madone was more comfortable then the sl8. Unfortunately the gen 8 ends up being harsher than any other bike we’ve tried.
I don't find the s-works SL8 tarmac harsh at all..its alot smoother than my older SL7..the S5 cervelo has a harsh ride..the most comfortable aero bike I've road yet was my trek madone SLR gen7 which I sold a few months back..
@@bicyclestation I guess comfort is in the 'ass' of the beholder. I've seen lots of Madone owners on forums etc saying gen 8 is more comfortable than gen 7. It annoyed me how Chris & Jesse jumped on your review as it feels like they were waiting for it so they could drive some engagement and because they don't like the direction that Trek have taken. To label the bike 'a dog' was ridiculous, it wasn't balanced against other reviews and their owm personal experience of the bike is very limited.
We have an agenda?
Cycling deep state lol. Btw thank you for all the support you sent our way! We really appreciate it.
Very cool video. One thing: there is no need to do 300 watt efforts. If you just give your favorite AI app your data, it will calculate your CdA for the effort based on whatever power you did. I’d be happy to help you guys analyze this data more
DT Swiss are great hubs but not perfect. Major advantage of other brands like Enve Inner Drive, Carbon Ti, HED AAND Chris King are one piece axles. Combines with thru axle much stiffer than DT Swiss that rely on end caps.
I've always thought that my Chris King hubs rode better than my DT 240's.
I always had to baby my Chris king hubs and maintain them more than my D/Tswiss 350, 240, 180 hubs..I find dtswiss easier to maintain..
@@petersouthernboy6327try the dtswiss 180s
@@LOGICAL-JAY I don’t baby my DT Swiss or my Chris King hubs. They’re both great IMHO.
@petersouthernboy6327 yes indeed they're both great hubs..
That PNS kit isn’t even realtree smh
Yes please truck stuff, f150 over here
We need truck stuff!
My body is ready
Princetons?
You need to test the CRW 65/75 wheelset. They are lighter, faster, less expensive and sprint better than any of the wheelsets you tested. Bonus - they are wide too and can run 30+ with ease and remain aero.
I have Roval tastes but Reserve disposable income…
😂😂😂lol
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would literally not buy any of those wheels. All way overpriced. My prime 56mm wheels are 23mm internal & 30mm external. 1620g and cost me £500. These companies rip the piss.
You don’t have to buy them. No one is forcing you to.
@@bicyclestation Its a comment on the cost.
Prime claims those wheels weigh 1795 btw. So the price of a product is determined by a bunch of different factors. Employee overhead, rnd development cost, marketing. Just tons of factors. Prime seems to be cutting cost in places to hit that price point. It’s always a trade off. Not saying what they are doing is wrong. But they have clearly positioned themselves to be a budget option.
@@bicyclestation claim of 1590g for my model.
How to scratch your wheels. Lay them down on a bed of loose stones.
I think it’s funny. Sorry to stress everyone out
Zipps are crap they should not even be in the mix
Idk man. The 353 has been probably the best most consistent wheelset I’ve ever owned. I’ve been running them for 3 years now. Everyone also loves the firecrest also
@@bicyclestation maybe in USA where they believe in their marketing and the hookless bs :)
@@kubackjeee You misundersood sth. He just uses those wheels, like great nr of other guys. It you who believe in sth and try so hard to spread your very important belief😂
I have ridden thousands of miles on them. I don’t understand what your issue is. All of my MTB wheels are hookless and have been for years.
I was prepared to hate the 353. Overpriced and gimmicky I thought - absolutely incredible wheels. My favorite gravel wheel set by far