Why did fleet of military planes land at Sacramento's McClellan Park?
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
- It's a sight not seen in Sacramento skies for more than twenty years. For the second week in a row, an entire air wing of large military jets landed at McClellan Park.
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Ok. I'm a navy brat and an army vet. But. Even after a base is decommissioned, the military still tests it's readiness just in case it's needed. A weather event that requires everything to be relocated provides an example of a decommissioned facility to still function if needed
i know that McClellan has been turned into a business park and commercial airstrip for FedEx and UPS planes, Mather on the other hand has been sitting neglected and in disrepair the last time i was there
I’m also a Navy Brat and army vet. I remember the man gates just to get on the piers. I would be more concerned this is a Sabre rattle situation or a major readiness training. If you start seeing more refuelers at the old SAC bases for thunderstorms, we’ve walked back into the 80s.
This tells me one of two things
1. We’ve reached a point where the airframes have become to valuable to properly insure. This means we don’t have enough. We’ve let entire training groups of aircraft go through hurricanes, drive ships through typhoons, and leave soldiers in the field for tropical storms, so moving a squadron for a thunderstorm that is happening in a state that doesn’t really cooperate very well with the receiving state is definitely a new one for me.
2. They’re trying their absolute hardest to Cold War 2.0 without telling anyone.
Really? Try that with Fort Ord.
@@fathead8933 more like Red Dawn / Civil War 2.0
@@glytchd right. Not really sure how flying gas tanks are used against the American people but you do you homie.
As a teen living in El Dorado Hills in the 60's and 70's, We were in McClellan's flight path. I remember B 52's coming in half an hour apart for 8 hours at a time.
More than likely they would have been landing at Mather at that time. Mather had a B-52 squadron and a reserve tanker squadron, the 904th. McClellan was primarily a maintainence facility mostly for F-111's at that time.
B-52's were at Mather AFB !!!
Wrong base... that was Mather
Do you remember the radar planes with 4 propellers? My grandfather was flying those at the time.
Another reason to choose a former air force base to park your very large aircraft is weight considerations. Not a lot of air fields were designed to carry the weigh of those planes, many of them over 500,000 pounds!!!
C-17A maximum gross weight is 585,000 pounds.
C-5M over 800,000 pounds.
BIG BOYS 😲
I was stationed on Guam during vietnam. A monsoon was predicted moved all aircraft off island. That was the first time you could think without jet noise in the background. It only lasted one day and then it was business as usual.😃
I live 3 miles from Pearl Harbor. Everyday is a major airshow, Sub show, UAV show, Navy show...
The sound? Those are all high bypass turbofans. They sound pretty much like airliners.
Well duh sound might be kicked up a few notches when u have 15 give or take american military widbodies moving....does Sac even have any widbodies?
Those four CFM56s under the wings of the those 707s basically makes them sound like two 737-400 landing at the same time. Cool sounding but not the coal burning roar of what those 707s came with from the factory before they were re-engined with those CFM56s.
I live next to the Charleston Joint Airforce base, an Airforce base connected to the Charleston international airport. In my experience, a C-17 flying over sounds much more impactful than a civilian airliner, C-17's and other military planes can sound like 2-3 civilian airliners combined. It's crazy, but also really cool.
I don't think you are correct with the sound. If hear a military cargo plane from inside I can tell the difference instantly.
C-17 engines are the same as Boeing 757's
My dad use to work at McClellan AFB as a Fireman. He retired when the base closed. I miss the firehouse on the runway. Good times.
I remember when the F-117 Stealth Fighter first did a flyby at McClellan after they finally made it public.
RIP dad.
I miss my Dad everyday too! Sorry to hear. But GOOD THING we will ALWAYS carry their MEMORY / MEMORIES with us! ❤️ & ✌🏽
@@FrostyTheSnowman12321 Absolutely. Thank you. Have a wonderful day
i still think that it was a mistake to decommission McClellan and Mather
Agreed. Its all about the $$$
@@bill2066 more like politics than money
clinton Did It.
@@arnenelson4495 Not without recommendations from Congres' Base Realignment Commitee (BRAC).
@@arnenelson4495 Do you have enough brain cells to accomplish anythiing else besides the blame game?
Nice reporting. A report with actual explanation rathern than speculation.
Well at least they're trying to tell us something but that doesn't mean it's the truth. Things are warming up in the Pacific region around Taiwan so they could be moving them to that old Air Base in preparation to head out that way.
@@patriotforhumanity7174 seemed reasonable and accurate rather than propoganda.
@@davidmuttillo2806 They gave a somewhat objective report based on what they were told. They should've dug deeper. The Pacific is heating up. I live in NEOK and the weather isn't that bad.
Being someone who works with these military aircraft at Altus AFB, I knew the planes were taking off and flying out to other bases for severe weather.
Congratulations.
So the AF evacuates planes halfway across the country because of severe weather these days? Seems a bit ridiculous, but that's the military for ya....lol.
Here’s your 🏆 because everyone gets a 🏆in the military…
@@6by6by6 I'm not in the military. I work along side the military as a civilian.
@@6by6by6 sounds like someone didn't get a
Interesting how we closed all those bases and forts thinking the cold war was over when in fact it never ended.
Not just that, the loss of local jobs and economy from it too.
Hindsight is 2020. At the time, our arch rival had just collapsed and we were in a period of unprecedented peace and prosperity. We didn’t need it.
clinton Did It.
Keep voting for newsom
@@SalSanchez-dy6cn SMH Newsom doesnt have the authority. This can only be done at the Executive level.
I was stationed at Mather AFB, just down the road in Rancho Cordova from 1976 - 1977.
Actually good reporting. That's rare to come by these days.
It's not only about damage - but their ability to mobilize.
My grandfather was a Fire Captain on McClellan in the 1950's.
Saw two C-17s from Altus AFB last morning and last night. Both flying VERY low.
Thanks, admittedly, all the Best to our Service Peoples.! Always, good to see our Military……..!
Hopefully they are not dropping off illegals from Gaza.
No, they're saving those people for Texas , right in your yard 🤣🤣🤣
F texas.
@@user-qc3oe5di7xam from sac ya knuckle dragger.
@@Ac_a Not cool
I'm in Oklahoma and the weather is normal for this time of year. They probably did, and they're prepping for more or for the Pacific. It's heating up
The sound of freedom, good quote!
Lol its a False Quote and U Know it Silly
@@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation I know you are a troll that likes trashing other peoples comments.
No, it is just noise. Silence is more appropriate.
@@martinricardo4503 blah blah blah
That’s a smart move because it cost a lot of money to fix those planes when they are damaged
I live in Oklahoma, and the weather is normal for this time of year. Something else is going on. Mark My Words
This isn't the first time Oklahoma has had tornadoes...why now?
Probably because there was a threat to the base
@@mattm2687
Seems most likely
US is in free fall...
And EVEN IF the weather is bad enough in OK…we can’t find ANY good parking spots closer than Sacramento?! Ok.
@@KeepinItCrispy Strategic requirements also play a part. There's no sense in relocating to military bases or civilian airports that are also vulnerable to the usual spring severe storm paths - generally west to east over the plains and eastern states and the hurricane paths from the Gulf and Atlantic.
Oh man i ised to love going to this base as a child had so much fun looking at all the old planes
Those C17’s are massive
Compared to a C-5 it is not.
@@martinricardo4503 Your point?
I've noticed that civilian airlines do the same thing. The other day Iowa had a series of tornado's push through and about 20 min's before one nasty cell was due to roll over the Des Moines airport the wife and I witnessed a half dozen large planes flying low and outside of their normal approach and departure lanes.
A full air wing is staging in Sacramento area. Most likely as a stop before they head off to the Pacific command.
Hmm hmm
So why only Altus, according to the weather radar shown, many other bases would've been affected, like Sheppard in Wichita Falls, TX We always rode out all the storms when I was stationed in various Tornado alley bases. I missed being able to work on the C-17 and the KC-46. I was certified on 16 different aircraft, by those were older KC-135 , KC-10, and C-130's among others. My only NorCal base for TDY was Beale but did many in SoCal, George, Edwards, March, and Norton. It's a shame what's being done to the military now, both in personnel AND bases.
I was in Okinawa with the Marines in the late 1960s and we had a typhoon. Aircraft at Kadena Air Force Base were damaged and some smaller ones torn loose from their tiedowns. One guy who was there said one smaller plane had enough lift from the wind on its wings it came loose and flipped completely over.
We're on camp 9 road in calaveras county and we heard him fly over it was really loud
As a young teen and military brat, my Dad let me explore one of the bases airplanes the EC121 Constellation. Years later after working a staff job, I got requalified as a tanker pilot instructor at Altus. Every one of those aircraft were piloted or supervised by instructors. Having been on numerous typhoon evacs in the Pacific, you can’t be overly picky about where your planes go. Sure, load bearing is critical to safe storage especially if you’re tankering gas. But safe havens from storms don’t have a lot of options for mil pilots.
You know why
Wow. Very cool. I used to live in Davis and Sacramento in the 70's and early 80's, and visited Mather and McClelland when I was a dependant but the last base my dad was stationed at was Travis. My dad was a navigator about KC135's back in the 60's and finished his Air Force tour of duty in the early 70's abord C141's. ; I'm told navigators have no longer been needed what with GPS and other aids. That would be a treat to see them there.
The navigator's role on many aircraft has been more than just basic navigation. Navs have been combat/weapon systems officers that operate sensors for aerial warfare, bombing, and special warfare. These CSOs are now trained at NAS Pensacola, vice Mather.
“It’s the Sound of Freedom” and “Thank You for Your Service”. Two statements often spoken that keep the Military Industrial Complex inshrined.
had 12 B52's fly in from Guam to Kadena due to a typhoon in '86/'87.... that was a great sight too....
That may explain the F-22s I saw today.
20+ is unusual yes but there’s everything from cargo to fighters flying over Sacramento all the time. I used to live next to Mather recently and saw pretty much every plane in the military minus the F-22 fly in there
It’s called Safe Haven,, it’s a military airfield operations plan every air base has one..also any base that has any fixed wing aircraft also have a plan. ie marine air wings navy air wings etc..😊FYI its worldwide not just conus..😊
We're actually at war, we just haven't been told.
those who are awake don't need to be told
We lost 2/3rd's of our B-36 fleet in 1952 because of a Carswell AFB tornado. I was at Ellington when the F102's and the C130's were flown out because of an approaching hurricane. The Super Guppy for NASA was still there because they couldn't find the pilot. Yes, we do not want a repeat of Carswell and will move the planes. Common sense.
They flew out there from Altus fab because of severe thunderstorms and tornados in Oklahoma, nothing else.
Standard procedure for weather that may damage the aircraft, but still pretty cool nonetheless. I've always wondered why they put a base in Altus to begin with, having been there myself, I feel like there are all kinds of stories of aircraft damaged by severe winds and hail (and even a tornado).
The other thing that surprises me is so many went to one location - don't they usually divest them to multiple locations?
There was nothing in the report that said McClellan was the only airfield used for dispersal. Other aircraft from Altus may have been parked elsewhere.
Excellent informative video! Good job!👍🏻🎅👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
All I have to say is flight trackers that you can look at for FREE, tell a much different story than "weather" issues...
Do tell pleaseeee
It's an apron. Not a "tarmac".
Tarmac is short for tar MacAdam, which is asphalt paving, so it's a moot point.
@@ernestdesimone2234 Not moot at all. Tarmac (not "a tarmac") is just a material used to pave lots of places. An apron is a designated area of an airport for parking and operation of aircraft.
Exactly! Lazy reporting. Drive me nuts how every story is compelled to use this verbalism.
@@gort8203 "on the tarmac" is just buzz speak for people trying to sound like they know aviation but don't.
@@martinricardo4503 Yes, that's what we're saying.
Staging areas using base to pre deploy equipment and re activate systems there for Pacific duty.......
Don’t forget when they evacuate the planes and crew their families are NOT evacuated.
Your point is?
Weather is going to suck here in the Midwest this week again. Just keep them there for a while.
More flew into SMF today too
I get to see this type of aircraft every week at the Stockton Airport
There is no such thing as a “Tarmac!” Only a runway, taxiway, and an “Apron,” or “Ramp.”
Tarmac sounds better than apron.
Exactly! Why does news media do this?!
In the USAF we always called it the Flightline!
@@vsucountryboylaziness
@@ericwright1840 I know. I hate wearing those in the Kitchen.
what country is next to Sacramento ?
Chicago.
Oklahoma is getting hammered with tornados and storms. I remember all thise jets from being stationed at Altus. I will always be able to recognize the tails of the C17's
Something huge is coming!!! It's scary
Caution is good but I can't see a 75 MPH wind hurting a plane that flys over a hundred.
Just like hurivacs when I was stationed in Charleston.
God bless America!
Mobility!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Them planes delivering 1,000 military sized pizzas for me?!? Geez, I've been waiting for so long🤨
Thats a lie aa. Former USAF vet we can lock down air craft to the tarmac on a military base we have powerful steel beams to lock down aircraft for storms and we have massive huge hangers to house military aircraft along the midwest.
Hmm
I loved living near an air force base ,at one time. It's always an air show! 🇺🇲
We also ship aircraft off the peninsula when hurricanes approach Florida.
Something’s up.
I wish I could of served but I fell 115 feet on to shale rocks in GreenLand, buillding a NORAD tracker dome ANY WAY OLD MAN, I see America pumping up and it brings tears to my 67 year old eyes with the love and pride I have for all you guys. Kevin from sunny Mexico, just in case you need to have some one tell how much I love you guys.
I feel your pain , I fell 60ft off of a scaffold swing stage.. 6 months in a wheel chair and 4 yrs walker
Hey they get to try In-N-Out burger!
My first AF assignment was Altus AFB. Nice to see them come to Sacramento. Welcome to California. Enjoy your stay.
I can assure you this movement is not because of “thunderstorms”.
OK expert. What is the reason?
Are you lot denying the existence of thunderstorms now?!
It looks like those planes can float in the water. They should make them with water landing platforms like some planes made in the 60's. They can take off and land in the water. Then attach water propellars on them, so they can operate as a boat too.
Military jets fly over Sacramento constantly especially around Mather. No big news. Yes 20 lined up in a row to land is different but these are common planes around here.
Maybe it’s the aliens coming! They just don’t want us to know about it.
Shhhh!!! We’re here 👽👽👽
@@c17nav good
airplanes dont like weather, but cope quite well with earthquakes...
Getting prepared to fly in more migrants
The question is why do we have an Air Force Base in Tornado Alie ?
❤❤❤❤ love to have them here God Bless America and the military😊
Played golf at Haggin Oaks, right next door
WE see Military Jets doing Touch and Goes at McClellan Occasionally, but not this Many. Pretty Cool. Im over the Approach Zone. I just heard one now. But its beginning to get sortof annoying.
Ill take the sounds of these birds any time of the night.
Actually the sound of freedom is kids playing but I get where he was coming from
It really is an Air Force-ism. Any aircraft passing by whether in the air or taxiing under power generates the ‘sound of freedom.’
1:15 severe weather in Oklahoma
April thru June is generally tornado season in OK.
Sound of freedom.Boy are you brainwashed whoever said that.
Hmmm also makes for a good mobility training exercise!
NO.
I hope these birds be safe during the storms ahead. Good job ❤
KC-46 in action? I thought they still had problem with those planes
Doesnt the midwest get tornadoes and strong wind with hail every year?
Yes it does
But if military bases are threatened by another military force … where would be the next best place to use …
........ no speculation about why
Do people take dumps on the side of the runways in San Diego like they do on the sidewalks ?
The loss of Mather, McClellan, and other military bases just killed Sacramento for 20 years. If the Air force leaves Beale, Marysville/Yuba City are finished.
That’s really dumb to show the world what our defenses look like
WW3 😢
Yep
@@Joe_Brown99 NO.
I mean sure, but not yet.
🙏🏻🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸 America UNITED TOGETHER 🌎☮️
Right down the street from my house I didn't hear or see a thing...
Hmmm military cargo jets 2 days after we approved a giant military package to 3 different countries 🤔 no idea!
If these were doing something war related they would be at the military airbase that's very close be instead, not parked at a civilian base with no war supplies.
lol people like you need to be studied
@@RealComp5 True but they still do repairs on military aircraft there also. Those planes are probably here just to get service and ready to roll. I'm old enough I went to a couple air shows there when it was still in use as a air force base.
Take off the foil hats people. They were evacuated due to weather in the area it’s ok nothing out of the ordinary. McClellan is closed anyway
And yet, it’s hard to understand that these billion dollar assets can’t risk being harmed at their home base from expected severe weather?
Skip to 1:18 to get a straight answer to the question. It's tornadoes.
thats what they want you to think
@@MrStevenduro
Exactly
The climate alarmist will be complaining soon.
We expect nothing less from our armed forces. Decommissioned spaces should still be in a good state, just in case there is an emergency and civilian airports can’t handle everything
That’s like reviving the exempt railroad track through my backyard. It’s been 30 years since a single train or locomotive went by on those tracks.
Anything explainable becomes a mystery when the media gets hold of normal crap.
Prepping for an Air Show...lol
Rapid Dragon test flights, lol.
When your overexcitement puts security at risk😂
*Oh Grandpa Buff you big beautiful plane*
👀
Back in the 70's this was an AFB.
Liar
@@user-gc2kk9mz8b
Opened in 1936 and closed in 2001. Was created during the cold War era
Do some research.. I had friends stationed there. We were from Beale AFB.