When you stated the decision was made to limit the weight of all C-5a’s to 50,000 pounds after cracks were found. That is very inaccurate. Yes restrictions were put on the aircraft, but to limit a C-5a to 50,000 pounds it would have to be a small scale model. I was always disappointed for the C-5M they didn’t use the GENx engine and new wings from the outer engines to the tips. These upgrades plus small vortices generators could have cut fuel burn by 20%
Sometimes I imagine a gunship variant using the C-5 with 2 105mm gun. It'll be absolutely inefficient and probably be useless but would look cool as shit.
They only took off and landed on uninproved runway surfaces durring testing, after that they stayed on pavement. The C-5A even had a way to deflate tires in flight, but i think it was never installed.on the C-5B, because they never land on dirt fields.
As a retired C-5 crew chief, I can state with authority that it felt like an accomplishment every time we get them in the air. It's kind of a testament to Cold War engineering. I encourage investing in a newer oversized transport. We retired her little sisters, the C-141, back in the nineties. Oh, the C-5 isn't named for Linda Lovelace. Your risque play, the Galaxy DOES routinely take in the front or the back! That's your teaser!
I was Air Trans out of Dover, and when I flew on the C5 for space-a, the attitude was, if it lands, it will break. Therefore, when coming back from deployment I always removed myself from the manifest to get on another mission to get home.
141s continued service until 2006. They were used extensively in the early days of both Afghanistan and Iraq. I worked at the Aerial Port in Ramstein from 2001-03.
4:25 This is NOT a clip of reverse thrust. This is a video of the cargo becoming unsecured and sliding backwards, destroying the fly-by-wire flight control. Rest in peace to the crew.
It was actually the hydraulic system, since the 747 does not have fly-by-wire, and that is a 747. Nonetheless, RIP to the crew, there was nothing they could have done to save the situation.
The 747 actually crashed due to the cargo coming loose and shifting the center of gravity (CG) too far aft (rearward). Once that happens, no amount of forward elevator or trim could have prevented that stall.
My squad flew back to Fort Bragg/Pope AFB from Iraq on one in late 2003. We had to guard sensitive cargo. The backward facing seat thing was weird, and you couldn't see outside. The plane broke, and we had to land in Spain for a day. It broke again, and we had to go to Dover, Delaware for another day. They flew us home the next day where we were greeted by a bunch of families cheering for us when we got off the plane. We didn't know any of them. They weren't our families. It was strange.
That last detail is insanely weird....cargo must have been so sensitive if they went as far as to make it look like the security detail were just soliders going home
@@evanalmighty9444 The crowd could have been for the crew or just someone who had routine access to the flight info saw that a number of soldiers and/or airmen were coming home from overseas. They could have been making a sweet gesture out of kindness OR they could have wanted a better promotion package. Either way, they pulled some strings and called some friends and boom! Rental-crowd. The cargo could have been anything: Boring but classified equipment, weapons, or some real secret-squirrel type stuff. There's no reason to fake crowds, the cargo still needs to leave the aircraft at some point.
@@TheBarracuda orrrrrr the government sent them to make it look like the plane was bringing back guys from some war deployment, instead of sensitive cargo.
Wow, I bet you guys had a fun time writing this. That part about how both the C5 and Linda Lovelace can take huge loads at both ends had me laughing pretty hard.
Sometimes you just need a soft spoken and serious voiced video in a foreign accent to say something completely outrageous about a piece of military hardware just to give some excitement to the day.
The first time I saw a C-5 Galaxy was in September 1985. I was walking home from the supermarket and there he was on approach to the Mexico City International Airport. The C-5 was bringing aid to the already devastated Mexico City after the earthquake of September 19, 1985 with it's landing gear already deployed and flaps down was a very impressive view. Thanks a lot FRED!!!
Backward facing seats are actually safer in an incident or crash. But passengers don't like them, we face forward and do that silly bending forward things instead of leaning back in a strong, well designed seat that will offer plenty of support in case of a problem. EDIT: One day I'll learn to finish the video before running my mouth. I still stand by my "passengers don't like it".
Nope you are 100% correct, passengers do not like rear facing seats. Some airlines have tried it over the years, BA being the main one, and they are the least desired seats on the plane.
As a 7yo boy, with a father in the USAF, I got to fly on a C-5 from Travis AFB to Hickam AFB. He even got us an inflight tour of the aircraft; so we climbed down into the cargo bay, across to the other side, and up into the cockpit. I still remember my brother and I sitting in the pilot and copilot seats (auto pilot was on) while this massive plane barrelled high over the Pacific Ocean headed to Hawaii.
The C-5 is a luxury Space-A ride, compared to the C-130 or KC-135. Have been onboard when one had an engine malfunction, and another blew a tire on landing (shrug). Always wondered what was up with the fog in the cabin before takeoff. Am jealous ... did not get the tour!
I got a chance to fly in a c5 galaxy back when I was in highschool. I was in the jrotc at my school and we did a trip to a nearby air national guard base and they flew us around for several hours. It was really fun and loud since we spent most of our time in the cargo hold.
@@r2020E Yes it was definitely a C5 we were not the only JROTC group there that day there were several and they gave us a tour of the plane and we all had to sit in the backwards seats during takeoff. Not going to lie that part was a little unsettling because even though we could not look outside and see ourselves moving backwards you could feel it.
The Air Force was likely doing pilot currency training, a check ride, or similar, in conjunction with taking the JROTC along for a ride. It doesn't really cost anything extra in a big cargo aircraft, that is scheduled to be flown regardless of being loaded or empty.
I believe it, before times changed I got a ride in a C-17 under similar circumstances. Extra seats on a regular transport flight so JROTC got to ride around.
My last flight in a C-5 is when I was 13yrs old. I have lived half of my life in Military bases. My dad served 26yrs for the U.S. Navy. My family and I decided to move back to California from the Philippines. It took us about 3 days of travel/layovers because we had to drop off and pick up from other bases. We started from the following air bases, Clark AFB, Hickam AFB, Luke AFB and finally to Travis AFB. We switched to a commercial flight back down to LAX. That was very tiring, I have flown on other cargo planes such as C-141 and C-130, since my family and I would move every 3 years between Japan(Yokota AFB/Atsugi NAF), Okinawa(Kadena AFB) and Philippines(Clark AFB/Subic Bay). Miss being a Military brat, no worries at all haha.
@@kevinberdine3022 aka Big MAC, White Elephant and FRED (Fantastic, Ridiculous, Economic Disaster). Also, "Fat Albert" is a nickname given to the C-130J Hercules for the Blue Angels.
Having flown in a C5 numerous times, I can attest that its not a big deal or very remarkable. Its slightly odd feeling the acceleration facing backwards but other than that, there is not anything exciting. The passenger cabin is upstairs just forward of the tail and there is only one or two pairs of small windows. In the passenger cabin, you’re quite removed from fact that you’re in an airplane most of the time. The lighting is quite dim with a cold metal floor and utilitarian surroundings and the passenger compartment heating can at times be inadequate with an uncomfortable cold draft moving around your ankles. Its also a quite a bit noisier that a commercial flight. The seats are as comfortable as you would expect from a seat that is designed for the military with an intended life span of 40+ years. The greatest enjoyment of a C5 is viewing it from the ground on approach or departure as it seems to be defying gravity seemly moving very slow because its so big.
I slept on a lot on my flights in the C5. The C130... not so much. So damn loud inside and the fold down jump seats are more uncomfortable than a 1970's folding lawn chair.
What I think is remarkable about this plane is the cargo it can move and the mobility it gives to forces and weapon systems. There are helicopter squadrons that can operate anywhere in the world within 72 hours because of this aircraft. That's world class capability right there, so I mean that is pretty amazing.
I was a structural specialist on C5 (USAF), and I never heard it referred to with any nickname, not once during all my years. And I worked with hundreds of people on the this plane.
Called it FRED occasionally out at Travis in the 90s, but as com/nav, we typically used tail number and got to work. Wasn't nefarious meaning like this video though.
Your videos always mark the official start of the weekend for me. The videos are just perfect. In my opinion one of the best aviation/military RUclips channels or maybe even the best there is. The weekend won't start without a Not What You Think video.
@@NotWhatYouThink No problem. Watching a nice 15 minute video about an interesting topic is more of a reward than a job for me, but it's Not What You Think. If you upload only one video per week, it is always something special. Quality over quantity and saturation. Better one F-35 than 10 F-4s. Greetings from Switzerland. I wish you all a nice weekend 😁
Ex C-5 flight engineer here. You cannot deploy flight reversers in flight they are locked out of.operation. There actually was an accident at Ramstein Germany because a thrust reverser deployed accidentally . They do sometimes keep two engines with thrust in descent because they need bleed air to keep the interior pressurized. The reason you only take one M-1 tank because if you take two tanks you cannot carry a full fuel load. You can put three Chinooks in a C-5.
I don’t care what anyone says. My opinion will NEVER change. The C-141 was cool. The C-130 is a historical icon, and the C-17 is certainly a sick view taking off when flying overhead, but THIS? That iconic screaming high pitched amazingly, excruciatingly loud screaming whine of those TF-39 engines?Those same engines that are just as insanely loud from far away whose low pitched rumble can silent a neighborhood as it cruises over you? Unforgettable. I’m a port dawg myself and it sucks doing any sort of work on this aircraft but man does it have an extremely nostalgic place in my heart. Ever since I was a child I’d been in love and would spend all day looking out the windows watching them do touch and gos at Yokota AB. Sure, the aircraft got massive upgrades and all to extend its service life and that’s great, but man, nothing will ever replace that iconic sound. The real sound of freedom.
I was a C-5 Instructor Pilot in the 90s.. A few thoughts: FRED is the nickname, even being used as the local (training missions near the base) callsign at Travis AFB. The Linda Lovelace thing is funny, but I never heard it used. Reverse thrusters on the ground were almost never used due to risk of tipping back on the tail when braking. Reverse thrusters in the air were almost never used due to the high probability of them failing to close properly (you have to shut down the engine). I carried the equivalent weight of 2 M1 Abrams many times, but for a long flight it would require so many air refuelings it just doesn't make sense.
Agree. I'm an Air Force logistics officer with 22+ years in. While "Linda Lovelace" made immediate sense to me and gave me a laugh, I've never once heard it used before for the C-5 in a career surrounded by aerial porters and C-5 missions.
I'm pasting this from an above reply: I was stationed at Altus AFB '80-'82. I got to go on a night air-refueling training mission (in the cockpit), gut wrenching surreal experience. The Cpt. in-training couldn't grasp the concept that it took 2-3 seconds for the C-5 to respond, he couldn't keep it stable. The instructor had to slap the throttles and dive "breakaway, breakaway, breakaway " putting us into a nose dive ... 3 times. I became a little weightless, we were on the floor behind the pilots seats with headsets on. I finally went back to the passenger seats and strapped in, whew ... didn't want to get sick. Amazing experience!!!
@@robhaney8568 All I can say about your story is WOW! I don't know if I would have liked that or not! As a GA pilot, I'd give my eye-teeth to get to be in the cockpit of a C-5, but not at night, I'd like to see. I hope you had plenty of altitude for those antics!
@@puck4801 The load shifted on takeoff. I believe they were carrying heavy up armored HUMVEES or MRAPS out of Bagram Afghanistan and the tiedowns broke. Extremely heavy vehicle(s) rolled to the back of the plane causing a massive out of CG condition and furthermore crushed some of the tail control linkages as things smashed into the back of the plane. The video is all over the internet and the parents of one of the pilots has expressed the heartbreak in seeing their son die over and over with the video being so common.
Fred used to fly around where I grew up in marietta GA. Fred is like a floating aircraft carrier. I hope everyone gets to see Fred fly at some point. It’s pretty awesome.
Can’t forget their unique high pitch whine. I miss going to school at Ramstein AFB and seeing them fly in over our school bus on the way to school. Also, you could hear them landing and taking off all the way from the Landstuhl castle
@@jackmehoff2363 I went to Ramstein high school for my freshman year before moving back to the states but before that I went to school in Landstuhl and also Vogelweh. All better than Baumholder though. I remember going there once and it blew. But typically I stayed off base skateboarding anyways. Didn’t spend too much time on the bases themselves except for school. Nice name, too. Nice to meet another man of sophisticated humor 😂😂
In 1990 and 1991 for Desert Shield / Storm, my Marine squadron was loaded on three C-5's, which included 21 flight ready AH1J Cobra helicopters ( 7 in each of three ), all of our tools, spare parts, technical publications, personal gear and all personnel ( around 130 of us ). Short flight to Dover AFB then non stop to Saudi Arabia, and back when it was over. We were the last operating squadron of Vietnam vintage helicopters HMA-773.
@@doodoo66 Right ! Just imagine who would have thought of that ? But we did burn all those old dry rotted tents. We dare not let those fall into the hands of the locals.
As a retiree I had the opportunity to fly on a C-5 (Space-A) and I can tell you the thing is just humongous ! I was used to mainly catching hops on C-130's or med-evac flights, but flying in a C-5 was like flying backwards in a cave (no windows). What's funny is that I trusted that aeronautical cavern to be able to climb into the skies and fly more than I did a 747 the first time I flew in one of those (but that's another story).
I flew in a C-5 back in 1986. Back then, there were only 47 rear facing passenger seats and there were no windows. Clearly some improvements have been made over the years since then.
47 seats? Sounds strange. Were you in the cargo hold? The upper rear compartment above the cargo hold had seats for up to 73 passengers plus 2 loadmasters.
Funny, only the companies, and maybe their chiefs, bosses and such, tend to be mentioned, not much the designers themselves; saying the more important of those would be nice, which is done a few times
My wife and I flew to and from Europe several times. The flights were great, friendly crew, smooth flights, food service was ‘bring you own’ but an experience of a lifetime!
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I was a communication/navigation technician in the Air Force Reserves & worked on the C-5 Galaxy in the 90s. I've been all over the jet & stood on the tail & the size of this jet always amazed me. I remember the sound & if I hear one flying over I know it's a C-5 without looking.
Many years ago, pre 9-11, I was driving through McGuire-Dix (not joint at the time) and one of these things landed directly over my car. It was...impressive.
I used to work this airframe. Pictures and video don't do it justice for it's size and capabilities. Kneeling the aircraft is a pretty cool process, and changing a tire is pretty easy, when you kneel one boggie. Fly on, Fred!
I spent time at Edwards on the C-5A certification program and several years at Dover AFB after they were introduced to service. The C-5A development was rushed due to Viet Nam needs. This is why the wing flutter issue was not discovered until it entered service. One feature of Fat Albert was that it would not "cube out". In other aircraft, the cargo cubic feet space limit was often reached before reaching the gross cargo weight limit. With the C-5A this was not a problem. This was a major advantage of the Lockheed design over Boeing's. Another issue was that Lockheed's design did a better job of operating under wartime conditions.
I was living near DAFB when the C-5s arrived. There was a lot of fanfare and an open house. They were giving out press kits with a lot of interesting details and some pics. Thumbs up for Fat Albert. That's the name I remember
@@AA-tz2bm While I was at Edwards, the C-5A fulfilled a contract requirement with an 800,000 lb. gross take-off weight, a world record at the time. Boeing was there doing flight testing of the 747 prototype. They wanted to best the Lockheed feat for publicity purposes. Problem was the empty 747 airframe weighed 50,000 lbs less, so the had to make up the missing weight with more sandbags laying on the belly of the empty plane. When the day came, the press was called out to observe the record breaking flight. The 747 took off slowly climbing to pattern altitude. It slowly made its way around and immediately landed to the hoots and hollers of the Boeing people in the press room. Boeing made a maximum publicity effort out of it. What no one was told was that the 747 had popped rivets from stem to stern and sat quietly on the ramp for 3 months being repaired before it flew again. Imagine what the aircrew thought hearing pings, pangs, booms, and bangs as the rivets gave way.
Regarding using reverse thrust on the ground (called a powerback): as explained many planes can technically do it, but it's generally banned because it has major downsides compared to using a tug. Running engines with significant power is dangerous with people nearby, there's no rear-view mirror, debris from the ground could be sucked into low-mounted engines, and it also costs way more in fuel. In some airports only DC-9s with engines much higher up were allowed to do it.
Also, you can’t stop an airplane quickly during powerback. If the pilot steps on the brakes, the airplane will tip on its tail. The only way to stop is to put the engines in forward thrust and add power.
I was stationed in Okinawa and the Philippines in 75 (USMC). I got to take a ride on one of these one night - I and my entire Battalion. We just sat in the empty cargo hold, not the fancy seating. We went up for about 20 or 30 minutes and landed again. I suspect we were tagging along for a training flight just to get the experience. I remember thinking we could have held a basketball game in there such was its size. I also remember thinking it got off the tarmac awful fast for something that big. An awesome experience.
A pilot recently clued me into the fact that cargo planes, when empty, have crazy high thrust to weight ratios. It's kinda like having an empty panel van with a hellcat engine
I was stationed at Fort Hood in Texas during Operation Desert Storm and can confirm that they flew the C-5s A LOT. Some times of the day there was another taking off every couple minutes. Memories.
My buddy works in Aerospace Ground Equipment, the folks who bring the fuel and coordinate all the equipment the plane needs to be serviced between flights. He said if they kneel a C5, there's a 50% chance it will not be able to raise and require maintenance. Also said that it becomes a 100% failure rate if it's somewhere nice like Hickam AFB, Hawaii...
Thanks for mentioning the sound of the C5. I never heard anything that sounded quite like it, with a beat almost like a giant propeller and a deep, deep, deep tone.
I want to say that NWYT is rapidly becoming one of my favorite channels! Every video is well put together, always presenting in an interesting and captivating way no matter the subject and also funny as hell! No other explainer channel names me chuckle! Thanks!
As an Army Ranger, we spent a lot of time riding in, and jumping out of, USAF aircraft. I did get a chance to ride in a C5A in 1984 or '85. Amazing aircraft, and I only regret the ride ended at the tarmac, and not with a jump. The rearward facing seats are interesting to say the least.
I had an old loadmaster buddy that was part of the developement of freddy and he told me the reason there werent many people jumping out of it was bnecause during testing a few jumpers died after hitting the fusalage becasue of the jetstream. it was probably good that you didnt get to jump out of it. plus the aft cargo doors had a tendency of not closing in flight.
i liked the humor added to the commentaries ! 🙂 The scientific investigation of a tank landing on you was very "interesting" never thought of that one 😀
I remember as a kid seeing these fly over our home on a few occasions. Due to the immense size, the perception of the air speed and altitude is deceiving. I grew up just outside of Atlanta and would see passenger planes constantly flying overhead at probably 4000-6000 feet AGL on approach to ATL. Then you see one of THESE looking like it is 2000 feet and barely moving... while in fact they were as high or higher than the passenger planes. Sort of spooky looking.
The C-5 is an amazing aircraft that we should have built more of. Logistics are not appreciated nearly enough, and C-5s are wonders of engineering and logistics both.
You should have mentioned that when the C-5 is maneuvering near other aircraft or buildings there is a hatch that opens up right above the cockpit and a guy hangs out of that hatch guiding the pilots. God, what a view that guy has!
@@Nick-yj4jk maybe it's only on the C5M super galaxy. My stepfather is a retired Chief Master Sergeant and I've seen the guys on top of the aircraft when taxiing. I don't know how to upload at photo on here but there are tons of pics of the guys right above the cockpit of those aircraft all over Google.
Thanks for the memories. I was a Crew Chief on this aircraft. Man, the distinct sound it made during take off and flight. It was at times a mechanical nightmare especially when parts were needed overseas. For the family members of pilots who didn’t come back to home base as planned? This a little A.F. Secret amongst the crew when flying into an area that we didn’t want to leave right away. Because Crew Chiefs had the authority to ground an aircraft due to safety concerns, the aircraft was no longer fully mission capable until the Crew Chief signed off on that aircraft. Needless to say, some countries visited were extra days and nights of having nice dinners or whatever other pleasure we’ve found. Additional note, if any person wants to join the Air Force and wants to work on this aircraft, fear of heights should not be part of your character. Standing on top of the winged T-Tail about to change a leading edge with a tether strap on is not for the faint of heart. Work on a fighter aircraft instead. It’s first floor work.Dover and Travis AFB’s, you are truly missed! Also, I actually do have a connection to get you on a C-5 Galaxy. He is very well known in the military community. His name is Sign On Dotted Line Recruiter!!!
C-5s are a great aircraft! The recent upgrades should keep them flying for decades. I've flown on C-5s from Travis to Andrews, and from Travis to Okinawa with a Hawaii stopover. Long, but comfortable. "...with most of the runway taking off, as well." Yeah, that's true!
I had the privilege of not only flying on these massive planes a few times from Germany to Dover AFB but i was on the flight that brought our 241 deceased marines from the Beirut bombing to Dover. It was a very somber flight
My favorite military aircraft. C-5s fly over my house almost everyday. I live a few miles from Dover AFB and almost half of all C-5 Galaxy are kept there. Dover AFB is the DODs largest aerial port.
While TDY to Rota Naval Base in Spain, I got to work on a C-5 with an autopilot issue. I was a new 5 level autopilot troop out of Charleston AFB qualified on C-141A/B's. It was an eye opening experience. I never got to fly in one, but I did get to drive 22K Loaders when we deployed our F-117's for Desert Storm. That was a lot of fun.
I flew in the C5 A in a medical vac flight from Iceland in the 70 s . Man it was incredible, like being in a flying building! Amazing going backwards, the bathrooms are on the second floor and you have to go up a flight of stairs!
I first went on an RAF Troop Transporter 50 years ago, or there abouts. It was basically a civilian aircraft, except all the seats were facing the rear, the explanation made so much sense. The only time I flew into a war zone, though, was in Kuwaits Jumbo Jet during Desert Shield, facing forwards. But we were escorted by 4 fighter jets as we approached the Red Sea. As for safety, travelling backwards, ever since that explanation, it has been my preferred choice on trains. Trooper Bear
I am always surprised how old the designs of these heavy and big airplanes are and how long they last. My biggest respect for the engineers! And thank you very much for your awesome high quality video.
Think Lockheed recovered some of their costs by using the same cockpit setup on the L-1011. I spent a lot of hours maintaining and pre-flighting TWA's L-1011 flight simulators. Went to an airshow and toured the C5 and was surprised how closely the cockpit and flight systems matched the L-1011. The crew said that the flight controls handled very close to the L-1011.
My grandfather built the landing gear on these beasts. Employed from 1951- 1978. Lead research mechanic/ hydraulic specialist. Worked on every aircraft through Lockheed Marietta plant those years.
I hear your wish to catch a hop on a C-5 some day! I flew on the AN-124 from San Francisco to Siberia back in 1992..... same configuration as the C-5 ..... passenger deck up in the back, above the cargo bay. By the way, the old C-141 also had rear facing seats whenever they were in passenger configuration.
My first military aircraft ride was my one and only time riding on a C-5A. It was so confused seeing the rearward seating. Also the climb up a very narrow ladder from the cargo deck to the passenger compartment was a little nerve wracking with handful of gear
WPAFB in Ohio use to be home to the C5. They were spectacular to see. The runway landing path crosses RT235, so you could litterally be underneath the plane when it was coming in on glidescope for a landing. Even when parked, they never fit in the hangers they were so large. WPAFB moved to the C15 years ago and although these are also awesome planes, they pale in comparison to the C5. Growing up and living in the area was great, as it was very common to see the C5 as well as F16's and A10's regularly doing maneuvers. The latter two no longer there and the C5 has been replaced with the C15. It's a lot quieter now. It's sad.
This airframe was a blast to work on in the USAF. The thing would break if it was sitting on the ground or if you even thought about turning it on, but our squadron still had the highest operational readiness of any airframe during OIF/OEF
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I was Air Trans in Dover, every time they said, "we're going to kneel it", we were like, why load it, it's going to break and not be able to lift back up. Lol
The fuel consumption of the C5 is just mind boggling! 6 Railroad tanker wagons to refuel this beast! Measuring the fuel in terms of railroad tanker wagons is a great way of visualising it and putting it into perspective. Great job doing that!
I can remember when we got the first couple of F/A18 centre fuselages delivered to Avalon Airport in one of these. It is a very impressive aircraft. the Loadmaster asked me what height we wanted the deck at to match our trailer but i told him to not worry as our trailer will just match wherever the aircraft deck is. That spun him out a little (remember this was 1983!) as he hadn't sen a trailer like ours before. I had great chat with him about his career and the jobs he goes on. It was a great day.
In the mid 70's at an air show the attendees were permitted to walk into and through the fuselage. What an impressive and huge aircraft! I was about 12 years old at the time and very impressed. I would love to have seen the big Ukrainian machine in person.
Here’s one more thing Fred can do….. I remember hearing that service personnel played a basketball game inside a C5 as it flew…. I guess someone built a basketball court inside of Fred, so……
***MILE-HIGHJACK-THE-BALL SIMMONS!*** *Sneaker Squeaking* *Turbulence sends the Navigator's papers all over the cargo hold, theres places the ball can bounce into but not out of--* *someone has to get a small ladder to fetch the ball--*
I got to fly in one of those coming back from Central America to the US. it was like walking into a football field. The pilots invited us up to check out the view of the Gulf of Mexico from the cockpit. Down almost two stories in the back then back up more stairs to get into the cockpit.
I've been on a 757 at an airport where we couldn't find a suitable tow-bar and I talked the pilot into a "power-push" using the thrust reversers instead. But... we were parked at a wide-open ramp without anything around that could be blown over, had several spotters stationed around us to be our eyes, and the pilot was well aware that you cannot use the brakes to stop since that could cause the plane to start tipping onto its tail.
Rode in FRED to and from Saudi Arabia. Fun Fact, the 82nd experimented with parachute operations in the C5. It didn't go well. The biggest issue was that it couldn't slow down enough for jumpers to exit the aircraft safely. From what I heard, the opening shock was brutal.
Did you spot the biggest inaccuracy in our video?
no, but I knew right away that the space shuttle is what you referred to at the start when you said C-5 cant do something 747 can ..
rediculous is not correct 1:00
nope im clueless 🙃
M1s don't weight 60 tons. They weight 70+ tons.
When you stated the decision was made to limit the weight of all C-5a’s to 50,000 pounds after cracks were found. That is very inaccurate. Yes restrictions were put on the aircraft, but to limit a C-5a to 50,000 pounds it would have to be a small scale model.
I was always disappointed for the C-5M they didn’t use the GENx engine and new wings from the outer engines to the tips. These upgrades plus small vortices generators could have cut fuel burn by 20%
Fred is a special man. He’s big, he’s useful, and he can deliver large loads.
Hmm. Large loads thy say
Be like fred
And he’s chubby af 😆
fred dropping huge loads all over the world, hopefully theres no child support he needs to deliver
Tasty😳
Sometimes I imagine a gunship variant using the C-5 with 2 105mm gun. It'll be absolutely inefficient and probably be useless but would look cool as shit.
380mm Battleship cannon
AC-5 👀
While the C-5 might be able to take big loads, the AC-5 will be GIVING big loads.
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@@SmikeMan Atomic annie
Fuck that. Give it a 155 and a 120! A couple 40m and a 30m or 20m Gatling
"The C-5 can also take off from unpaved runways with most of the runway taking off as well." - Never have I spat out my drink until I heard this!
I read this comment before that part in the video. Still laughed!
Yeah, that gets "laugh of the day".
They only took off and landed on uninproved runway surfaces durring testing, after that they stayed on pavement. The C-5A even had a way to deflate tires in flight, but i think it was never installed.on the C-5B, because they never land on dirt fields.
The C-5B had the system but, it was removed during the C-5M conversion.
Well it never hurts to take your runway with you because one never knows when you might need one.😉
As a retired C-5 crew chief, I can state with authority that it felt like an accomplishment every time we get them in the air. It's kind of a testament to Cold War engineering. I encourage investing in a newer oversized transport. We retired her little sisters, the C-141, back in the nineties.
Oh, the C-5 isn't named for Linda Lovelace. Your risque play, the Galaxy DOES routinely take in the front or the back! That's your teaser!
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We use to have keg parties after the 1st flight out of ISO
I was Air Trans out of Dover, and when I flew on the C5 for space-a, the attitude was, if it lands, it will break. Therefore, when coming back from deployment I always removed myself from the manifest to get on another mission to get home.
141s continued service until 2006. They were used extensively in the early days of both Afghanistan and Iraq. I worked at the Aerial Port in Ramstein from 2001-03.
@@carrjeep7538 Thanks. I forgot about the Reserve and Guard units. My mistake.
4:25 This is NOT a clip of reverse thrust. This is a video of the cargo becoming unsecured and sliding backwards, destroying the fly-by-wire flight control. Rest in peace to the crew.
Agreed, I've seen similar footage of a C-5 crash. I got butterflies when I saw that odd shift during ascent. 😟
Bruh thats a 747 not a c5
It was actually the hydraulic system, since the 747 does not have fly-by-wire, and that is a 747. Nonetheless, RIP to the crew, there was nothing they could have done to save the situation.
I don't think it was meant to be a clip of reverse thrust...
The 747 actually crashed due to the cargo coming loose and shifting the center of gravity (CG) too far aft (rearward). Once that happens, no amount of forward elevator or trim could have prevented that stall.
My squad flew back to Fort Bragg/Pope AFB from Iraq on one in late 2003. We had to guard sensitive cargo. The backward facing seat thing was weird, and you couldn't see outside. The plane broke, and we had to land in Spain for a day. It broke again, and we had to go to Dover, Delaware for another day. They flew us home the next day where we were greeted by a bunch of families cheering for us when we got off the plane. We didn't know any of them. They weren't our families. It was strange.
The C-5 ALWAYS breaks in Rota, Spain. Many times the crew’s wives JUST HAPPEN to be in Rota, Spain when it does.
That last detail is insanely weird....cargo must have been so sensitive if they went as far as to make it look like the security detail were just soliders going home
Super interesting stuff.
@@evanalmighty9444 The crowd could have been for the crew or just someone who had routine access to the flight info saw that a number of soldiers and/or airmen were coming home from overseas. They could have been making a sweet gesture out of kindness OR they could have wanted a better promotion package. Either way, they pulled some strings and called some friends and boom! Rental-crowd.
The cargo could have been anything: Boring but classified equipment, weapons, or some real secret-squirrel type stuff. There's no reason to fake crowds, the cargo still needs to leave the aircraft at some point.
@@TheBarracuda orrrrrr the government sent them to make it look like the plane was bringing back guys from some war deployment, instead of sensitive cargo.
Wow, I bet you guys had a fun time writing this. That part about how both the C5 and Linda Lovelace can take huge loads at both ends had me laughing pretty hard.
Hundreds of men have been inside her.
The C-5 will get down on her knees and take it from both ends.
Yes, and the ability to kneel is specially important.
Sometimes you just need a soft spoken and serious voiced video in a foreign accent to say something completely outrageous about a piece of military hardware just to give some excitement to the day.
I laughed more than I should have
The first time I saw a C-5 Galaxy was in September 1985. I was walking home from the supermarket and there he was on approach to the Mexico City International Airport. The C-5 was bringing aid to the already devastated Mexico City after the earthquake of September 19, 1985 with it's landing gear already deployed and flaps down was a very impressive view. Thanks a lot FRED!!!
That transition at 14:06 got me😂
“Kneeling is specially important”
looked like subliminal advertising, had to rewind it as im i bit drunk:)
I guess it's true, she can be loaded from the front and the back and can kneel down before opening her mouth
We're just gonna act like that didn't happen lmfao
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Fred is gay
Backward facing seats are actually safer in an incident or crash. But passengers don't like them, we face forward and do that silly bending forward things instead of leaning back in a strong, well designed seat that will offer plenty of support in case of a problem.
EDIT: One day I'll learn to finish the video before running my mouth. I still stand by my "passengers don't like it".
I love that edit 😂
Just because that's not the primary reason doesn't mean it's not an accurate statement.
Nope you are 100% correct, passengers do not like rear facing seats. Some airlines have tried it over the years, BA being the main one, and they are the least desired seats on the plane.
@Mr. Shark Tooth Thank you, thank you!
It was more comfortable than the C-130.
As a 7yo boy, with a father in the USAF, I got to fly on a C-5 from Travis AFB to Hickam AFB. He even got us an inflight tour of the aircraft; so we climbed down into the cargo bay, across to the other side, and up into the cockpit. I still remember my brother and I sitting in the pilot and copilot seats (auto pilot was on) while this massive plane barrelled high over the Pacific Ocean headed to Hawaii.
So you're 7 and you can spell better then me?
you’re lucky than most of us.
The C-5 is a luxury Space-A ride, compared to the C-130 or KC-135. Have been onboard when one had an engine malfunction, and another blew a tire on landing (shrug).
Always wondered what was up with the fog in the cabin before takeoff.
Am jealous ... did not get the tour!
@@Nitrecz I think he meant when he was 7
@@Ilijah_Senteno No. no. no
prodigy exist in our universe.
If my father took me into a C5, I would have the rank of General already.
I love all your little innuendos "can kneel and take huge loads from bith ends" god you crack me up!
AND he can do it sideways as well! 😁
I got a chance to fly in a c5 galaxy back when I was in highschool. I was in the jrotc at my school and we did a trip to a nearby air national guard base and they flew us around for several hours. It was really fun and loud since we spent most of our time in the cargo hold.
Did you actually? I have my doubts due to how expensive flying a C5 is.
@@r2020E Yes it was definitely a C5 we were not the only JROTC group there that day there were several and they gave us a tour of the plane and we all had to sit in the backwards seats during takeoff. Not going to lie that part was a little unsettling because even though we could not look outside and see ourselves moving backwards you could feel it.
The Air Force was likely doing pilot currency training, a check ride, or similar, in conjunction with taking the JROTC along for a ride.
It doesn't really cost anything extra in a big cargo aircraft, that is scheduled to be flown regardless of being loaded or empty.
I believe it, before times changed I got a ride in a C-17 under similar circumstances. Extra seats on a regular transport flight so JROTC got to ride around.
@@CAP198462 Space-A is back again.
14:00 "Kneeling is especially important."
Flashes picture of Linda Lovelace. The innuendo is strong in this one.
My last flight in a C-5 is when I was 13yrs old. I have lived half of my life in Military bases. My dad served 26yrs for the U.S. Navy. My family and I decided to move back to California from the Philippines. It took us about 3 days of travel/layovers because we had to drop off and pick up from other bases. We started from the following air bases, Clark AFB, Hickam AFB, Luke AFB and finally to Travis AFB. We switched to a commercial flight back down to LAX. That was very tiring, I have flown on other cargo planes such as C-141 and C-130, since my family and I would move every 3 years between Japan(Yokota AFB/Atsugi NAF), Okinawa(Kadena AFB) and Philippines(Clark AFB/Subic Bay). Miss being a Military brat, no worries at all haha.
God bless you, your family and the Philippines.
Fat Albert is the real nickname my dad was airforce and that's what they called the C5a
@@kevinberdine3022 aka Big MAC, White Elephant and FRED (Fantastic, Ridiculous, Economic Disaster). Also, "Fat Albert" is a nickname given to the C-130J Hercules for the Blue Angels.
Are you in the military now ?
@@FLORIDIANMILLIONAIRE I never joined the Military, I had other plans within the US Govt👍
"C-5 Galaxy can kneel and take huge loads from both ends"😏🤨
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Fred is gay
What is that pfp…
@@stanleybochenek1862 wym it's perfect
@@blepapsula uh..
Having flown in a C5 numerous times, I can attest that its not a big deal or very remarkable. Its slightly odd feeling the acceleration facing backwards but other than that, there is not anything exciting. The passenger cabin is upstairs just forward of the tail and there is only one or two pairs of small windows. In the passenger cabin, you’re quite removed from fact that you’re in an airplane most of the time. The lighting is quite dim with a cold metal floor and utilitarian surroundings and the passenger compartment heating can at times be inadequate with an uncomfortable cold draft moving around your ankles. Its also a quite a bit noisier that a commercial flight. The seats are as comfortable as you would expect from a seat that is designed for the military with an intended life span of 40+ years. The greatest enjoyment of a C5 is viewing it from the ground on approach or departure as it seems to be defying gravity seemly moving very slow because its so big.
what's the legroom like?
I slept on a lot on my flights in the C5. The C130... not so much. So damn loud inside and the fold down jump seats are more uncomfortable than a 1970's folding lawn chair.
What I think is remarkable about this plane is the cargo it can move and the mobility it gives to forces and weapon systems. There are helicopter squadrons that can operate anywhere in the world within 72 hours because of this aircraft. That's world class capability right there, so I mean that is pretty amazing.
@1:32...."can kneel and take loads from both ends"
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It's sucks , blows , kneels and takes it in both ends .
Take page loads from both ends then the Linda clip pops up 😂😂😂😂😂 I'm dieing 😂😂😂😂 bro this is great knowledge and comedy this is a must watch.
Sorry for being a total piece of sh*t but,
It is *dying
I was a structural specialist on C5 (USAF), and I never heard it referred to with any nickname, not once during all my years. And I worked with hundreds of people on the this plane.
I was a Marine air winger in the 90s and I heard it from airmen who stopped by El Toro a few times.
I’m a crew chief and we call it FRED all the time
Called it FRED occasionally out at Travis in the 90s, but as com/nav, we typically used tail number and got to work. Wasn't nefarious meaning like this video though.
I've heard Fred and Fat Albert, but we didn't call it that on the flight line at Travis in the 80's.
@David Maciaszek not like a BUFF then?
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Loved Lovelace! 😂 (14:05)
Ex C-5 flight engineer here. You cannot deploy flight reversers in flight they are locked out of.operation. There actually was an accident at Ramstein Germany because a thrust reverser deployed accidentally . They do sometimes keep two engines with thrust in descent because they need bleed air to keep the interior pressurized. The reason you only take one M-1 tank because if you take two tanks you cannot carry a full fuel load. You can put three Chinooks in a C-5.
It's the C-17 that uses thrust reversers for a tactical decent. It'll happily make a 20,000+ ft/min decent
My guy your wrong, you can do the inboards only
Thanks I will never think of the work LOAD the same again.
@@Nathore1 "Ex c-5 engineer" "NO YOUR WRONG"
Some airplanes pressurize better than others
I don’t care what anyone says. My opinion will NEVER change.
The C-141 was cool. The C-130 is a historical icon, and the C-17 is certainly a sick view taking off when flying overhead, but THIS?
That iconic screaming high pitched amazingly, excruciatingly loud screaming whine of those TF-39 engines?Those same engines that are just as insanely loud from far away whose low pitched rumble can silent a neighborhood as it cruises over you? Unforgettable.
I’m a port dawg myself and it sucks doing any sort of work on this aircraft but man does it have an extremely nostalgic place in my heart.
Ever since I was a child I’d been in love and would spend all day looking out the windows watching them do touch and gos at Yokota AB.
Sure, the aircraft got massive upgrades and all to extend its service life and that’s great, but man, nothing will ever replace that iconic sound. The real sound of freedom.
11:04
Thank you, NWYT, I needed that laugh today. xD
Great video as always, I'm a big fan of your work!
I was a C-5 Instructor Pilot in the 90s.. A few thoughts:
FRED is the nickname, even being used as the local (training missions near the base) callsign at Travis AFB.
The Linda Lovelace thing is funny, but I never heard it used.
Reverse thrusters on the ground were almost never used due to risk of tipping back on the tail when braking.
Reverse thrusters in the air were almost never used due to the high probability of them failing to close properly (you have to shut down the engine).
I carried the equivalent weight of 2 M1 Abrams many times, but for a long flight it would require so many air refuelings it just doesn't make sense.
Agree. I'm an Air Force logistics officer with 22+ years in. While "Linda Lovelace" made immediate sense to me and gave me a laugh, I've never once heard it used before for the C-5 in a career surrounded by aerial porters and C-5 missions.
That truly IS funny, but also true about the load, on both counts!!
Thats why you never use brakes when you powerback. Come out of reverse and apply brakes when you start moving forward.
I'm pasting this from an above reply: I was stationed at Altus AFB '80-'82. I got to go on a night air-refueling training mission (in the cockpit), gut wrenching surreal experience. The Cpt. in-training couldn't grasp the concept that it took 2-3 seconds for the C-5 to respond, he couldn't keep it stable. The instructor had to slap the throttles and dive "breakaway, breakaway, breakaway " putting us into a nose dive ... 3 times. I became a little weightless, we were on the floor behind the pilots seats with headsets on. I finally went back to the passenger seats and strapped in, whew ... didn't want to get sick. Amazing experience!!!
@@robhaney8568 All I can say about your story is WOW! I don't know if I would have liked that or not! As a GA pilot, I'd give my eye-teeth to get to be in the cockpit of a C-5, but not at night, I'd like to see. I hope you had plenty of altitude for those antics!
That video at 4:27 is still heart wrenching. I’ve seen some fucked up stuff online. That’s one of the worst accidents I’ve ever seen.
That was an accident? I've never heard of a plane doing anything like that before; do you have more info for anyone wanting to read about it?
Agreed. This one and the B-52 crash really mess me up inside. 😞
@@puck4801 The load shifted on takeoff. I believe they were carrying heavy up armored HUMVEES or MRAPS out of Bagram Afghanistan and the tiedowns broke. Extremely heavy vehicle(s) rolled to the back of the plane causing a massive out of CG condition and furthermore crushed some of the tail control linkages as things smashed into the back of the plane. The video is all over the internet and the parents of one of the pilots has expressed the heartbreak in seeing their son die over and over with the video being so common.
i recognized that one... damn...
@@Oooonumbers Why would you watch it over and over again?
Fred used to fly around where I grew up in marietta GA. Fred is like a floating aircraft carrier. I hope everyone gets to see Fred fly at some point. It’s pretty awesome.
13:33 yup it sure can take off with most of the runway too! lol 😄 Great video! 👍
Can’t forget their unique high pitch whine. I miss going to school at Ramstein AFB and seeing them fly in over our school bus on the way to school. Also, you could hear them landing and taking off all the way from the Landstuhl castle
You kids in rammstein had it better than us kids in baumholder
@@jackmehoff2363 I went to Ramstein high school for my freshman year before moving back to the states but before that I went to school in Landstuhl and also Vogelweh. All better than Baumholder though. I remember going there once and it blew. But typically I stayed off base skateboarding anyways. Didn’t spend too much time on the bases themselves except for school. Nice name, too. Nice to meet another man of sophisticated humor 😂😂
The C-2 Greyhound also uses back facing seats, although that’s probably because of the forces from the catapult and arresting gear
most likely the reason, unless it has 5-point harnesses, helmets, and HANS devices for all passengers.
@@ForzaMonkey oh it definitely does have the 5 point harness and helmets, spent too much time in them already lol
In the navy😈
Forces from catapult would not be the reason for backwards seating, but the arrested landing, for sure
@@k.h.1587 exactly. When on the cat passengers lean forward (towards the back of the aircraft).
Thanks!
Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed the video :-)
In 1990 and 1991 for Desert Shield / Storm, my Marine squadron was loaded on three C-5's, which included 21 flight ready AH1J Cobra helicopters ( 7 in each of three ), all of our tools, spare parts, technical publications, personal gear and all personnel ( around 130 of us ). Short flight to Dover AFB then non stop to Saudi Arabia, and back when it was over. We were the last operating squadron of Vietnam vintage helicopters HMA-773.
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That's crazy! Wow these things must be ENORMOUS.
So you mean to tell me they wasted all that money bringing all the equipment back. Damn. Sounds dumb. Lol
@@doodoo66 Right ! Just imagine who would have thought of that ? But we did burn all those old dry rotted tents. We dare not let those fall into the hands of the locals.
As a retiree I had the opportunity to fly on a C-5 (Space-A) and I can tell you the thing is just humongous ! I was used to mainly catching hops on C-130's or med-evac flights, but flying in a C-5 was like flying backwards in a cave (no windows). What's funny is that I trusted that aeronautical cavern to be able to climb into the skies and fly more than I did a 747 the first time I flew in one of those (but that's another story).
That Lovelace nickname is exactly the crass yet witty humor I expect from the military! 😂
Along with the almost subliminal shot of her toward the end of the video.
@@dougball328 Timestamp.
@@marcuscheng9413 14:04
@@dougball328 Haha...."Aditionally, kneeling is specially important"...😮
I flew in a C-5 back in 1986. Back then, there were only 47 rear facing passenger seats and there were no windows. Clearly some improvements have been made over the years since then.
47 seats? Sounds strange. Were you in the cargo hold? The upper rear compartment above the cargo hold had seats for up to 73 passengers plus 2 loadmasters.
Hats off to the wide range of engineers who design and build such craft. Truly stunning achievement.
Funny, only the companies, and maybe their chiefs, bosses and such, tend to be mentioned, not much the designers themselves; saying the more important of those would be nice, which is done a few times
My wife and I flew to and from Europe several times. The flights were great, friendly crew, smooth flights, food service was ‘bring you own’ but an experience of a lifetime!
You get an instant subscribe! Love the millisecond Lovelace flash when the C5 was kneeling!🤣
that just scared the shit out of me 😂
Took it in both ways
I see what you did there @ 14:05 i literally did a spit take with my beer when I saw that. Dang do i love your videos. please keep up the good work.
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wait Fred is a porn star omg🤣🤣🤣
1:06 that flapping thing in wind tunnel always got me 😂
Well, it can't fly without flapping its wings.
It’s the biggest bird…
:o that’s some big boi over here!
0:56 bruhhh 😂😂
I was a communication/navigation technician in the Air Force Reserves & worked on the C-5 Galaxy in the 90s. I've been all over the jet & stood on the tail & the size of this jet always amazed me. I remember the sound & if I hear one flying over I know it's a C-5 without looking.
Many years ago, pre 9-11, I was driving through McGuire-Dix (not joint at the time) and one of these things landed directly over my car. It was...impressive.
I used to work this airframe.
Pictures and video don't do it justice for it's size and capabilities.
Kneeling the aircraft is a pretty cool process, and changing a tire is pretty easy, when you kneel one boggie.
Fly on, Fred!
I spent time at Edwards on the C-5A certification program and several years at Dover AFB after they were introduced to service. The C-5A development was rushed due to Viet Nam needs. This is why the wing flutter issue was not discovered until it entered service.
One feature of Fat Albert was that it would not "cube out". In other aircraft, the cargo cubic feet space limit was often reached before reaching the gross cargo weight limit. With the C-5A this was not a problem. This was a major advantage of the Lockheed design over Boeing's. Another issue was that Lockheed's design did a better job of operating under wartime conditions.
I was living near DAFB when the C-5s arrived. There was a lot of fanfare and an open house. They were giving out press kits with a lot of interesting details and some pics. Thumbs up for Fat Albert. That's the name I remember
makes sense. the 747-8f can carry higher gross but probs less volume
@@AA-tz2bm While I was at Edwards, the C-5A fulfilled a contract requirement with an 800,000 lb. gross take-off weight, a world record at the time. Boeing was there doing flight testing of the 747 prototype. They wanted to best the Lockheed feat for publicity purposes. Problem was the empty 747 airframe weighed 50,000 lbs less, so the had to make up the missing weight with more sandbags laying on the belly of the empty plane. When the day came, the press was called out to observe the record breaking flight. The 747 took off slowly climbing to pattern altitude. It slowly made its way around and immediately landed to the hoots and hollers of the Boeing people in the press room. Boeing made a maximum publicity effort out of it. What no one was told was that the 747 had popped rivets from stem to stern and sat quietly on the ramp for 3 months being repaired before it flew again. Imagine what the aircrew thought hearing pings, pangs, booms, and bangs as the rivets gave way.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge about American military aircraft through this video
Regarding using reverse thrust on the ground (called a powerback): as explained many planes can technically do it, but it's generally banned because it has major downsides compared to using a tug. Running engines with significant power is dangerous with people nearby, there's no rear-view mirror, debris from the ground could be sucked into low-mounted engines, and it also costs way more in fuel. In some airports only DC-9s with engines much higher up were allowed to do it.
Also, you can’t stop an airplane quickly during powerback. If the pilot steps on the brakes, the airplane will tip on its tail. The only way to stop is to put the engines in forward thrust and add power.
So we're are just suppost to skip over the fact that there are two S15's and a Gallardo cruising together at 1:39
All those cars have to be at least a decade old, including the sport cars. I wonder what year that clip was filmed.
@@Marsheh2 i think you can bypass that if their show and display cars or race cars. I seen dozens of s15s in the US over the internet.
0:12 finally a plane that does more push ups than me.
Thank you again for Great content. Love this channel!
Just wow!
I was stationed in Okinawa and the Philippines in 75 (USMC). I got to take a ride on one of these one night - I and my entire Battalion. We just sat in the empty cargo hold, not the fancy seating. We went up for about 20 or 30 minutes and landed again. I suspect we were tagging along for a training flight just to get the experience. I remember thinking we could have held a basketball game in there such was its size. I also remember thinking it got off the tarmac awful fast for something that big. An awesome experience.
We would play basketball with a makeshift hoop on the forward bulkhead.
A pilot recently clued me into the fact that cargo planes, when empty, have crazy high thrust to weight ratios. It's kinda like having an empty panel van with a hellcat engine
The Wright brothers could have made their first flight inside the C5’s cargo hold.
I was stationed at Fort Hood in Texas during Operation Desert Storm and can confirm that they flew the C-5s A LOT. Some times of the day there was another taking off every couple minutes. Memories.
Ahhh, Americas endless violence. Nostalgia.
Had the same experience at NAS Norfolk.
My buddy works in Aerospace Ground Equipment, the folks who bring the fuel and coordinate all the equipment the plane needs to be serviced between flights. He said if they kneel a C5, there's a 50% chance it will not be able to raise and require maintenance. Also said that it becomes a 100% failure rate if it's somewhere nice like Hickam AFB, Hawaii...
The breakdown rate at places like Hickam and especially Rota, Spain are beyond comprehension.
🤣🤣🤣 I bet it becomes 💯 out of service in Hawaii for at least a week or three🤣🤣👍
Uh huh.....only in nice place huh?
Thanks for mentioning the sound of the C5. I never heard anything that sounded quite like it, with a beat almost like a giant propeller and a deep, deep, deep tone.
I worked on them when I was in the AF. I could tell if they were loaded or empty when taking off by the sound of the engines.
I want to say that NWYT is rapidly becoming one of my favorite channels! Every video is well put together, always presenting in an interesting and captivating way no matter the subject and also funny as hell! No other explainer channel names me chuckle! Thanks!
As an Army Ranger, we spent a lot of time riding in, and jumping out of, USAF aircraft. I did get a chance to ride in a C5A in 1984 or '85. Amazing aircraft, and I only regret the ride ended at the tarmac, and not with a jump. The rearward facing seats are interesting to say the least.
It was probably broke down again 😂😂
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I had an old loadmaster buddy that was part of the developement of freddy and he told me the reason there werent many people jumping out of it was bnecause during testing a few jumpers died after hitting the fusalage becasue of the jetstream. it was probably good that you didnt get to jump out of it. plus the aft cargo doors had a tendency of not closing in flight.
i liked the humor added to the commentaries ! 🙂 The scientific investigation of a tank landing on you was very "interesting" never thought of that one 😀
I remember as a kid seeing these fly over our home on a few occasions. Due to the immense size, the perception of the air speed and altitude is deceiving. I grew up just outside of Atlanta and would see passenger planes constantly flying overhead at probably 4000-6000 feet AGL on approach to ATL. Then you see one of THESE looking like it is 2000 feet and barely moving... while in fact they were as high or higher than the passenger planes. Sort of spooky looking.
The C-5 is an amazing aircraft that we should have built more of. Logistics are not appreciated nearly enough, and C-5s are wonders of engineering and logistics both.
"Amateurs talk tactics, professionals study logistics" (see Russian invasion of Ukraine 2022)
I agree they should have built more or at least modernize more of them. Currently, I think there are only 50+ of them in service.
@@dallasyap3064 and all of them are crap lol they are flying liabilities
Can take a load from both ends classic line mate had me laughing over that 😆 🤣 😂
Was part of the Lockheed crew that loaded Titan IV rocket stage aboard the C5 at NAS Miramar back in the 80s.
You should have mentioned that when the C-5 is maneuvering near other aircraft or buildings there is a hatch that opens up right above the cockpit and a guy hangs out of that hatch guiding the pilots. God, what a view that guy has!
In 12 years flying C5s, never saw such a thing!
Ok Captain Crunch.... Get back in the plane....
@@Nick-yj4jk maybe it's only on the C5M super galaxy. My stepfather is a retired Chief Master Sergeant and I've seen the guys on top of the aircraft when taxiing. I don't know how to upload at photo on here but there are tons of pics of the guys right above the cockpit of those aircraft all over Google.
Thanks for the memories. I was a Crew Chief on this aircraft. Man, the distinct sound it made during take off and flight. It was at times a mechanical nightmare especially when parts were needed overseas. For the family members of pilots who didn’t come back to home base as planned? This a little A.F. Secret amongst the crew when flying into an area that we didn’t want to leave right away. Because Crew Chiefs had the authority to ground an aircraft due to safety concerns, the aircraft was no longer fully mission capable until the Crew Chief signed off on that aircraft. Needless to say, some countries visited were extra days and nights of having nice dinners or whatever other pleasure we’ve found. Additional note, if any person wants to join the Air Force and wants to work on this aircraft, fear of heights should not be part of your character. Standing on top of the winged T-Tail about to change a leading edge with a tether strap on is not for the faint of heart. Work on a fighter aircraft instead. It’s first floor work.Dover and Travis AFB’s, you are truly missed! Also, I actually do have a connection to get you on a C-5 Galaxy. He is very well known in the military community. His name is Sign On Dotted Line Recruiter!!!
"-with most of the runway taking off too" I love those jokes
C-5s are a great aircraft! The recent upgrades should keep them flying for decades. I've flown on C-5s from Travis to Andrews, and from Travis to Okinawa with a Hawaii stopover. Long, but comfortable.
"...with most of the runway taking off, as well." Yeah, that's true!
I had the privilege of not only flying on these massive planes a few times from Germany to Dover AFB but i was on the flight that brought our 241 deceased marines from the Beirut bombing to Dover. It was a very somber flight
Airlines: "If we use passenger spines as a crumple zone, we could save 1%"
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My favorite military aircraft. C-5s fly over my house almost everyday. I live a few miles from Dover AFB and almost half of all C-5 Galaxy are kept there. Dover AFB is the DODs largest aerial port.
"Scientificly proven that a tank landing on you is directly corelates with ruining an otherwise fine day" 😂😂😂 epic
While TDY to Rota Naval Base in Spain, I got to work on a C-5 with an autopilot issue. I was a new 5 level autopilot troop out of Charleston AFB qualified on C-141A/B's. It was an eye opening experience. I never got to fly in one, but I did get to drive 22K Loaders when we deployed our F-117's for Desert Storm. That was a lot of fun.
I flew in the C5 A in a medical vac flight from Iceland in the 70 s . Man it was incredible, like being in a flying building! Amazing going backwards, the bathrooms are on the second floor and you have to go up a flight of stairs!
I first went on an RAF Troop Transporter 50 years ago, or there abouts. It was basically a civilian aircraft, except all the seats were facing the rear, the explanation made so much sense. The only time I flew into a war zone, though, was in Kuwaits Jumbo Jet during Desert Shield, facing forwards. But we were escorted by 4 fighter jets as we approached the Red Sea.
As for safety, travelling backwards, ever since that explanation, it has been my preferred choice on trains. Trooper Bear
the quality of these videos have gone up SOOOOOOO much since the beginning
I live right next to a Air Force base and see this fly in and out a couple times a year. Truly insane to see this thing fly
I am always surprised how old the designs of these heavy and big airplanes are and how long they last. My biggest respect for the engineers!
And thank you very much for your awesome high quality video.
No. Thank tax payers who deal with costs of repair - maintenance of those old planes with millions every couple of years of service.
Cz they don't fly like passengers plane and cloud ☁️ or sky don't evolve
Thank you! That was the best laugh I've had all day.
When I was in the army I was able to fly in a C5 twice, pretty cool, lots of ladder climbing to get into the passenger area.
Think Lockheed recovered some of their costs by using the same cockpit setup on the L-1011. I spent a lot of hours maintaining and pre-flighting TWA's L-1011 flight simulators. Went to an airshow and toured the C5 and was surprised how closely the cockpit and flight systems matched the L-1011. The crew said that the flight controls handled very close to the L-1011.
"... can kneel and take huge loads in both ends."
My grandfather built the landing gear on these beasts. Employed from 1951- 1978. Lead research mechanic/ hydraulic specialist. Worked on every aircraft through Lockheed Marietta plant those years.
Your scripting and jokes are fantastic. Couldn't ask for better info and amusement
I hear your wish to catch a hop on a C-5 some day! I flew on the AN-124 from San Francisco to Siberia back in 1992..... same configuration as the C-5 ..... passenger deck up in the back, above the cargo bay. By the way, the old C-141 also had rear facing seats whenever they were in passenger configuration.
As did C-9's in their day.
My first military aircraft ride was my one and only time riding on a C-5A. It was so confused seeing the rearward seating. Also the climb up a very narrow ladder from the cargo deck to the passenger compartment was a little nerve wracking with handful of gear
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WPAFB in Ohio use to be home to the C5. They were spectacular to see. The runway landing path crosses RT235, so you could litterally be underneath the plane when it was coming in on glidescope for a landing. Even when parked, they never fit in the hangers they were so large. WPAFB moved to the C15 years ago and although these are also awesome planes, they pale in comparison to the C5. Growing up and living in the area was great, as it was very common to see the C5 as well as F16's and A10's regularly doing maneuvers. The latter two no longer there and the C5 has been replaced with the C15. It's a lot quieter now. It's sad.
Did you mean C-17?
I remember in 1970/71 seeing C-5’s flying in and out of NAS Moffet Field in California. Given it’s size it appeared to hang in the air
This airframe was a blast to work on in the USAF. The thing would break if it was sitting on the ground or if you even thought about turning it on, but our squadron still had the highest operational readiness of any airframe during OIF/OEF
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I was Air Trans in Dover, every time they said, "we're going to kneel it", we were like, why load it, it's going to break and not be able to lift back up. Lol
The fuel consumption of the C5 is just mind boggling! 6 Railroad tanker wagons to refuel this beast! Measuring the fuel in terms of railroad tanker wagons is a great way of visualising it and putting it into perspective. Great job doing that!
I can remember when we got the first couple of F/A18 centre fuselages delivered to Avalon Airport in one of these. It is a very impressive aircraft. the Loadmaster asked me what height we wanted the deck at to match our trailer but i told him to not worry as our trailer will just match wherever the aircraft deck is. That spun him out a little (remember this was 1983!) as he hadn't sen a trailer like ours before. I had great chat with him about his career and the jobs he goes on. It was a great day.
I currently work on C-5’s. Getting you an incentive flight on one is pretty easy 👍🏾👍🏾
In the mid 70's at an air show the attendees were permitted to walk into and through the fuselage. What an impressive and huge aircraft! I was about 12 years old at the time and very impressed. I would love to have seen the big Ukrainian machine in person.
Got to see one of these in person in AC a few weeks ago and it's truly hard to imagine the size of this thing until you see it in person
Here’s one more thing Fred can do…..
I remember hearing that service personnel played a basketball game inside a C5 as it flew….
I guess someone built a basketball court inside of Fred, so……
***MILE-HIGHJACK-THE-BALL SIMMONS!***
*Sneaker Squeaking*
*Turbulence sends the Navigator's papers all over the cargo hold, theres places the ball can bounce into but not out of--*
*someone has to get a small ladder to fetch the ball--*
Football. Not basketball.
I got to fly in one of those coming back from Central America to the US. it was like walking into a football field. The pilots invited us up to check out the view of the Gulf of Mexico from the cockpit. Down almost two stories in the back then back up more stairs to get into the cockpit.
I've been on a 757 at an airport where we couldn't find a suitable tow-bar and I talked the pilot into a "power-push" using the thrust reversers instead.
But... we were parked at a wide-open ramp without anything around that could be blown over, had several spotters stationed around us to be our eyes, and the pilot was well aware that you cannot use the brakes to stop since that could cause the plane to start tipping onto its tail.
Rode in FRED to and from Saudi Arabia.
Fun Fact, the 82nd experimented with parachute operations in the C5. It didn't go well. The biggest issue was that it couldn't slow down enough for jumpers to exit the aircraft safely. From what I heard, the opening shock was brutal.
Once all the problems were ironed out the C5 became and is astounding and quite unique. A hard act to follow.
It breaks all the time. Always has, always will.