SAS Operator PRAISES Delta Force
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
- Former SAS operator Melvyn Downes speaks with David Hookstead about his thoughts on Delta Force and SEAL Team 6.
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Melvyn Downes is one of the finest soldiers this country has ever had. Legend of a man!
This brother has seen a lot. My hat’s off to you sir. Thank you for your service.
The Brits are brothers forever.
Thank you Britain for still producing and never changing the standards for the SAS - Delta and SAS from personal observation and others view, are the most professional! By far compared to others 🇺🇸🇬🇧🤙🏻
You Americans are our brothers we are the same people we come from the same history we will always be this way
the enthusiasm as he talks is fantastic, bet he,s a good boss/leader of his troops
Melvin made an interesting point that David didn't really followup on. American Tier-1 units such as Delta and DEVGRU are very specialized in the counter-terrorism and hostage rescue roles while the SAS has to maintain proficiency in conducting missions that are the provice of "white" SOF such as the Green
Berets, Navy SEALs,and MARSOC Raiders in the US military. The UKSF maintains strong relations with JSOC but they also maintain relations with the wider
SOCOM community because the SAS/SBS could just as easily find themselves working alongside Green Berets,SEALs, or MARSOC as they would with Delta
and DEVGRU.
Not entirely true. Delta may specialize in CT and and HR, but they still expected to remain proficient to execute any mission required by the NSC. Most of their first missions conducted by Delta in 80s were UW and Foreign internal defense. While core CT skills are most certainly covered during OTC- trade craft, CQB, est, allegedly, post completion operators still go through various schools that 'white SOF' specialize in. From long range special recon to mountain warfare. It helps a lot that more than 90% of them already come from 'white sof'.
The main thing I think he meant to emphasize was that UKSF also do domestic CT, HR, Intel work, and things the US military does not due to Posse Comitatus.
As far as JSOC mission sets, they can be pretty diverse when executing NCA-directed SMUs. AT and CT are quite different, as AT can get dicey with coordination or lack thereof with the Nation where AT goes down.
@LRRPFco52 That's a fair point. I never actually considered the nuances of AT being different from CT. And I have only heard of domestic advisory roles, with FBI HRT (domestic delta) or some other compareble unit being lead in such incidents . Though, I do know they work extensively with law enforcement(State and Federal), but probably not the same way UKSF would.
@@ssgtomen621 UKsf are always on standby to operate domestically like op nimrod in 1980 and they also continuously operating internationally both at macro and micro level operations. Delta and devgru does not have access or jurisdiction to handle hostage crisis domestically because that's handled by swat, sheriff's, fbi etc...uksf are utilized similar to op nimrod when the police can no longer handle the situation whereas the USA will have the swat and the fbi to deal with it etc
@boxerwayne666 A serious simplication-borderline misleading. CAG and DEVGRU are on standby, for any operation - international or domestic, though domestically, very likely limited to advisory and training the assault team. While not expected to perform direct actions roles, historically, they could, if needed, be, especially prior to FBI HRT that was formed extensively with the involvement of Delta.
PS: Swat is an umbrella term. They are not all equal. There are national level SWAT teams that are more trained to cater specifically to hostage crisis. FBI HRT, while not advertised to be, are on par with the SAS, GIGN and CAG in HR and CT capabilities, with even a comparable attrition selection rate. So no, US won't send sherif department swat to handle a hostage crisis.
Melvyn seems like such a great bloke.
Bloke from Stoke
Bloke from Stoke
Great interview. I found the closed captions invaluable to understand what he was saying!
Hey seems to be so awesome.. hope to listen to the whole reel now.
Melvyn top bloke and a credit to our country.
He's referring to a Diemco "Colt Canada" C-7 CAR-15, an AR-15 high quality, the SAS, Delta, others used them before the M-4 was developed
The M-4 has existed under variants and other nomenclature since Viet Nam. It’s started at XM-177. Then CAR-15 variants etc. Now JSOC has used HK 416’s for years.
@@garyp6395 they were CAR-15s till 82' when XM177E2 was made off the A-2, the regular Army & Marines had M-16s, Special Ops had Carbines hence the M-4 designation to replace M-3,it wouldn't get contracted till 93', but M-4 wouldn't come on till 99' right before GWOT
@@garyp6395 So actually CAR-15 variant was used up thru the 90s, as a carbine, of course M-16s were always there since Nam too
@@Frank-uw5xq the M16A2 came online with the Marines in ‘83 and Army in ‘86. The XM-177 was used in Nam by SEALs and MAC SOG as well as Ranger Companies (LRRPs)
"CAR-15” was a family of weapons cobbled together by Colt to compete with the Stoner 63 modular weapons system. It included:
603 Infantry Rifle
605 Infantry Leader Carbine (15” barrel)
607 Commando w/10” barrel
608 USAF survival carbine
LMG Belt-fed AR-15
UK SOF used a lot of Colt Canada Diemaco rifles and carbines dating way back before the C7 existed. SAS used AR-15s in the war in Borneo in the mid-1960s, for example. SAS and SBS both had AR-15s in Falklands, as well as Desert Storm.
SFOD-D used 653s and M16A1s with M203s in the early days up through Grenada. When the M16A2 and M855 ammunition became standardized, they got 723s with 1/7 twist barrels. Those were the first M16A2 carbines, which were basically 653s with 1/7 twist pipes and A2 pistol grips.
The 723 was updated with the Abu Dhabi/C7 upper with brass deflector in 1987, Fiberlite stock, and extended feed ramps. Still had pencil barrels, but could also be fitted with the later 727 barrels with the heavy forend with M203 bracket cut (same barrel used for the M4 later in 1994).
The Colt 727 had the M16A2 rear sights, extended feed ramps (unlike the M16A2 upper), and heavy forend barrel with M203 step, as well as a clipped handguard cap that allowed installation of the M203 receiver. With the old carbine handguard cap, it didn’t allow the M203 receiver to clear it, so they had to be clipped. That handguard cap was standardized on the M4A1/M4 as well.
M4A1/M4 entered production/distribution in 1994, which is when JSOC and Ranger Regiment started getting them to replace 723s and 727s. SEALs had been using 727s since the late 1980s as well to replace their 653s and M16A1s.
What a remarkable soldier. That would be a guy to have some beers with at the end of the day.
Just watched on Amazon on how the SAS came to be. I have so much respect for those guys. They low key was the reason for the expediting end of WW2. It’s not surprising that Delta was derived from the SAS. Their mission success opened up americas eyes to form a tier 1 unit.
I remember those runs.
Respect.
Charlie Beckwith served with the SAS in the 60s Bucky went to selection in the summer of 77 and then returned to the US and started the Unit's selection
Also Dick Meadows who had way more to do with the formation of the Unit than what is he is credited for.
@@michaelmcgraw1536 Quiet Professional!!! That man is legendary. Son Tay raider to our guy in Tehran. Sipped tea in front of the embassy. I can't remember where I heard it from, but it is said if Beckwith was the father of Delta, Dick Meadows was the Grandfather.
"oh me lights gone out" idk why I laughed
Melvyn - do you remember that Harvey Wall Banger Mel brought up ? :)
Division runs at bragg. Like being digested inside of a mile long human centipede.
Different world 🇺🇸🇬🇧
I like Melvyn but this interviewer only cared about who’s better
Why don't we outright fund the British/Canadian/Australian/New Zealand Special Forces?
We're always working together, and we're all Brethren.
🇺🇸 🇬🇧
ARNF Beautiful Britain
Great interview, even better individual, but can you please ask him to speak ENGLISH! Ha! 🇺🇸🇬🇧
One military guy praises another military guy. That's your headline???
Melvin yet again highlights the notoriously fucking tight arsed MOD would give their best troops even a decent feed let alone decent equipment. That's why CAG and the aussie SASR had the edge. Facilities matter. Budgets and equipment matter. US tier 1 had absurd funding and facilities.
I get no other military can compete with US funding, but SASR vs SAS?
Aussie military is half the size of the British and not as well funded....so im not sure about that one.
@@OMT988 per capita funding is better with the aussie SASR than the British.
@@RenegadeRanga per capita, Bud no one cares per capita, do they have better equipment and capability.
do they have aircraft to deploy from. do they have ships t deploy from, gun bombs etc....answer is, no they are not as well supported as the SAS. its why the whole world borrows drones etc from the US....they have so much more.
SASR doesn't come close especially not if you wanna talk operational experience.
you should branch out. I like hearing stories from guys that have served on a SMU as much as the next guy, but you should change it up. also you staring into my soul doesn't help. Please take no offense. I'm only sharing my opinion.
It's fascinating for a lot of people to hear about the differences in training brought about by different levels of funding.
David,
Of note, Charles B was with the SAS prior to his time in Vietnam as an exchange officer. 🫡