The aircraft doesn't come with any documentation, so I've written up a start-up checklist - available below - I will improve it as I learn more about the aircraft: ko-fi.com/s/af37d39dc0
I live in Canada, and have seen this very plane land on my lake (we all think the lake we live on is MY lake! lol) and take on water and then take off again right in front of me. This simulation is simply spot on! I actually have photos of this plane and a close up of the pilots looking at me as they turned and flew over my house. This simulation is stunning!
I couldn't agree more. One of the most incredible looking default aircraft I've ever seen, in over four decades of flight sim! I can't wait to have some fun in this thing in MSFS 2024 in VR! As a private pilot, I'd love to learn seaplanes one day. It must be a blast to takeoff and land from a lake!
Before the engines were changed to turbines and the planes renamed CL415, the original CL215 had radial engines. Most were and still are stationed at my home airport in Québec City, CYQB. The French lettering in the aircraft is normal since they were designed and built in French Québec. CYQB is where I did all my flight training and was sort of my second home, so I often went close to their parking area and watched as they were fired up, belching black smoke from the oil accumulated in the lower cylinders. It would be nice if a radial engine version of this iconic water bomber was made available.
Thanks for the video Jonathan, it appeared in my content manager today as well. I like 'new' looking aircraft as well. I think there is often way too much 'wear and tear' texturing on most planes, especially the military ones. Time to play after some sleep
Great video. Yes, the detail is absolutely amazing and so accurate. And it’s such a great looking airplane too. Purpose built for sure. I can’t wait to get it.
In the series Ice Pilots you get to see Buffalo airways ferry a couple of these (well, older 215's?) from Canada to Turkey. Excellent stuff! And makes me feel like I know this lovely aircraft already...
Someone at the Asobo team was given the task of 3D-modelling this airplane and obviously decided to give their absolutely best shot possible at it. And they succeeded wonderfully, too. If the aircraft files aren't encrypted this would be a perfect starting point for a full study-level model.
Also found some placeholders in my aircraft selection screen. I wonder if the extra aircraft from the Aviator Edition I bought might also be available!
I may be mistaken but from what I could dig up on the web it's nickname is the "Super Scooper" but on some flights it was given the call-sign "Pelican" with a designation #
That's what I got as well. I just read an accident report of one that crashed in a training exercise, in France. It had the "Pelican" designation as well (#41). The instructor and one of two trainees died. The other one survived with serious injuries. Yeah the CL-215 is the "Scooper" and the 415 (derived from the 215) is the "Super Scooper".
This aircraft is really interessant. Several to see in action here in south Europe. Perfectly reproduced. Flight model no idea, surely impossible to have a realistic one (nobody would be able to fly it) but flying as firefighter is the most dangerous job in aviation world. Most pilots are ex military ones here in Europe. Dangerous job.
Please...some if not most of the models in DCS don't look all that great due to the engine limitations and the fact they keep the polycount down to reduce lag because of it being a combat simulator. In fact, the M2000 and the F-15E both were made by Metal2Mesh for FSX which is the why they look as good as they do.
Thanks Jonathan! Enjoying the challenge of scooping and getting back in the air in Idaho back country! Tried the "Auto Probe Retract" but doesn't seem to work.
This aircraft is incredibly easy to start. Some of the issues I have with it are, the sunshades on the rails in the cockpit don't move, and currently there is no way to map the water drop button on the yoke to your hardware making it difficult to fly and drop at the same time but if you've figured out what it is, I'd love to know. Jorge said in the live stream that they were aware of some of the issues with the CL-415 so I hope they issue a fix for them.
Great video, and looks an awesome aircraft. Thank you for posting! - in absence of notes, would it be wise to retract re-fill valves first, BEFORE accelerating to take-off? Looking fwd to MSFS portraying water splash effects to really take hold of water ops!
The flight manual does specify to raise the probes (official word for scoops) as soon as the tanks are full. Some aircraft have automatic retraction of the probes.
My hats off you Jonathan. I took a lok at your ko-fi and I see you sold already like 10 000+ checklists with minimum payment 3 pounds per each. So did you really make 30 000 pounds just by selling checklists? That is amazing I would never thought this is possible :D
@@jonbeckett Aye, it is not uncommon for PT-6A powered aircraft to move to the feathered position upon shutdown due to the lack of oil pressure in the propeller hub. Some have locks that prevent this like the Twin Otter but I have never really figured out why some stay flat while most feather. The C-130 is another example of staying flat on shutdown but I do not know the reason for it, though it uses a turboprop version of the T700-GE-702 that the Apache and the Blackhawk use.
Just pre-ordered MSFS2024 on Steam, so this aircraft has arrived in FS2022. I agree with you on the build quality - absolutely superb. One thing though; if you have the yoke hidden, is there another button somewhere for releasing the water ?
The interior of this reminds me of a spaceship from Star Citizen. Odd the strobe worked for me, I do have a hardware bind though when I pressed it first, and it worked on subsequent manual clicks.... I also noticed the fuel was really really unbalanced on the first load too. Also noticed that the ground power is stuck on too... I'm curious how much of this won't happen in 2024, because you have the EFB to presumably control those things. I also had a lot of difficulty trimming the aircraft, always seemed to be a bit too much either way and using heading/course on the Bravo moved it in increments of 10 (which I guess something similar is happening to trim). Otherwise, a fun modern yet simple aircraft that constantly reminds me of the one from the old Tailspin cartoon. My main gripe, other than the few minor bugs is the lack of GPS/AP. It'd be nice to have but, oh well. Although there is a GPS 1 and 2 button above the altimeter, so maybe there is a GPS in the 2024 version and the system it uses isn't available in 2020. Anyway, its a fun plane to fly, best flying boat we have I'd say and if this is the quality of the default aircraft... god damn.
I noticed the fuel after I landed - which explained why the plane lurched left on take-off, and why it was such a handful lol - at least it reflects that the weight had a marked effect on it's performance :) (note to self - don't record videos after 1am lol)
Yes - I wrote on an FB page, "If this is a taster for FS2024, then we are in for a banquet!" - fingers crossed that this new modelling does indeed become the new benchmark! I just pulled the big red lever to dump my water, same effect!
Thanks for posting this! Amazing detail, the future of flight simulation is going to be very interesting. What computer power is going to be required to run at full potential?
I preordered MSFS 2024 from the Xbox app but I have MSFS 202 through Steam. I did not get the firefighting aircraft in MSFS 2020. However, to clarify, I just preordered it lats night so maybe I will see it in a couple of days.
Question, how does she perform? I mean does the aircraft feel like it is simulated well? The ONE thing X-Plane simmers say is that MSFS 2020 feels like it is on rails, does this aircraft alleviate that?
That will come with the flight model changes in the 2024 sim. This plane does the best it can with the 2020 flight model, but isn’t a good judge of what’s to come feel-wise.
I have rarely seen such a beautifully modeled aircraft in the sim. I'm looking forward to the final version in FS2024! I have a few questions about your PC configuration, which you show in your description. Did you split the 4TB? Do you have Windows and the Flightsim on separate hard drives? I'm asking because I want to edit videos with my new PC and also want to store this on a separate hard drive, so I need several slots without having to connect and disconnect external storage media via USB every time. Best regards an well done!
I bought MSFS2000 on steam originally. Since I have ordered MSFS2024 limited collector’s edition and I don't see the plane either. Confused. Nametag is correct.
Hi Jonathan, this aircraft comes with some small bugs. You need to check the fuel closely. You started with a massive fuel imbalance. The left tank was full and the Right tank was empty. It happens to me everytime I start cold and dark.
I noticed the fuel after I landed - which explained why the plane lurched left on take-off, and why it was such a handful lol - at least it reflects that the weight had a marked effect on it's performance :) (note to self - don't record videos after 1am lol)
@@567davefair That's not what the crossfeed valve is for. You only select crossfeed when either the left or righthand engine fails. Crossfeed opens a valve and is not a pump. Otherwise there should be a transferpump to transfer fuel from the left or righthand tank. Crossfeed is only to be used in an emergency. For example one engine inoperative. So you can feed the good engine out of both fueltanks. Anyhow, the in game checklist is not correct. The fuelpumps should not be turned off after startup, but after takeoff with the crossfeed valve still closed.
Does anyone see a future for firefighting drones intead of CL 415 with a price tag of 55million usd--Chinese working on HH-100 and CH-YH1000 Spanish working on Singular Aircraft Flyox,future is in lidar,drone,AI command control maybe
@@jacquesdemolay2699 Opinions vary on this. Why not offer both versions for persons that use their planes for more than flying to their house once and want to immerse in a plane that is actually used?
Based on content we’ve seen for MSFS2024, I believe the aircraft models will typically start brand-new and get worn and dirty over time and with use. I’m sure that can be reset though.
The aircraft doesn't come with any documentation, so I've written up a start-up checklist - available below - I will improve it as I learn more about the aircraft:
ko-fi.com/s/af37d39dc0
Apparently not everyone got the plane with the purchase's. Never got mine either.
@@MarvUSA Mine took several days to turn up - it appeared in the purchased items in my profile.
I live in Canada, and have seen this very plane land on my lake (we all think the lake we live on is MY lake! lol) and take on water and then take off again right in front of me. This simulation is simply spot on! I actually have photos of this plane and a close up of the pilots looking at me as they turned and flew over my house. This simulation is stunning!
I couldn't agree more. One of the most incredible looking default aircraft I've ever seen, in over four decades of flight sim! I can't wait to have some fun in this thing in MSFS 2024 in VR! As a private pilot, I'd love to learn seaplanes one day. It must be a blast to takeoff and land from a lake!
I wish I could post the picture I have. I would show how accurate this simulation is. Well done!
Before the engines were changed to turbines and the planes renamed CL415, the original CL215 had radial engines. Most were and still are stationed at my home airport in Québec City, CYQB. The French lettering in the aircraft is normal since they were designed and built in French Québec. CYQB is where I did all my flight training and was sort of my second home, so I often went close to their parking area and watched as they were fired up, belching black smoke from the oil accumulated in the lower cylinders. It would be nice if a radial engine version of this iconic water bomber was made available.
Thanks for the video Jonathan, it appeared in my content manager today as well. I like 'new' looking aircraft as well. I think there is often way too much 'wear and tear' texturing on most planes, especially the military ones. Time to play after some sleep
Great video. Yes, the detail is absolutely amazing and so accurate. And it’s such a great looking airplane too. Purpose built for sure. I can’t wait to get it.
Wow, that's the highest quality model I've ever seen!
In the series Ice Pilots you get to see Buffalo airways ferry a couple of these (well, older 215's?) from Canada to Turkey. Excellent stuff! And makes me feel like I know this lovely aircraft already...
And later in the series they sent two more to the Orient (can't recall which country) via cargo ship.
(Also shows what it looks like if you land one on a runway while forgetting the lower the gear.. 🫣)
Someone at the Asobo team was given the task of 3D-modelling this airplane and obviously decided to give their absolutely best shot possible at it. And they succeeded wonderfully, too.
If the aircraft files aren't encrypted this would be a perfect starting point for a full study-level model.
Also found some placeholders in my aircraft selection screen. I wonder if the extra aircraft from the Aviator Edition I bought might also be available!
I saw those too - I imagine something has been screwed up by Asobo :)
I'm really excited for this aircraft, though I'm not touching it until 2024 is out. I want to keep that first experience with it to be in the new sim.
I may be mistaken but from what I could dig up on the web it's nickname is the "Super Scooper" but on some flights it was given the call-sign "Pelican" with a designation #
That's what I got as well. I just read an accident report of one that crashed in a training exercise, in France. It had the "Pelican" designation as well (#41). The instructor and one of two trainees died. The other one survived with serious injuries.
Yeah the CL-215 is the "Scooper" and the 415 (derived from the 215) is the "Super Scooper".
This aircraft is really interessant. Several to see in action here in south Europe. Perfectly reproduced. Flight model no idea, surely impossible to have a realistic one (nobody would be able to fly it) but flying as firefighter is the most dangerous job in aviation world. Most pilots are ex military ones here in Europe. Dangerous job.
This looks on par with DCS models. It looks so good!
Please...some if not most of the models in DCS don't look all that great due to the engine limitations and the fact they keep the polycount down to reduce lag because of it being a combat simulator. In fact, the M2000 and the F-15E both were made by Metal2Mesh for FSX which is the why they look as good as they do.
What a beauty, one of my favorite aircraft.
Tell tail sign of a Dehaviland ….Dash 8 sound as well thumbs up
Thanks Jonathan! Enjoying the challenge of scooping and getting back in the air in Idaho back country! Tried the "Auto Probe Retract" but doesn't seem to work.
I hope those sun visors are stowable in 2024 as I find they interfere with rearward visibility. Nice if they could flip upwards
I still have yet to receive this plane.
so Glad You Mentioned That This Popped Into MSFS 2020 Unannounced As It Had Done The Same For Me When I Looked. * )
This aircraft is incredibly easy to start. Some of the issues I have with it are, the sunshades on the rails in the cockpit don't move, and currently there is no way to map the water drop button on the yoke to your hardware making it difficult to fly and drop at the same time but if you've figured out what it is, I'd love to know. Jorge said in the live stream that they were aware of some of the issues with the CL-415 so I hope they issue a fix for them.
Great job!
*Gets new airplane can't start it* I'll bet you Jonathan has a video that will help. You do. Almost every time! Thanks.
Thnx Jonathan for this video. Strange that there is no autopilot in this aircraft.
Would be so cool if there was a mods/dlc like the "H145 Action Pack" for this plane.
in 2024 there will be missions, I think in some of the 2024 preview vids it shows it performing fire fighting missions
@@MarcDavison Yes it will. But it would be cool to be able to make our ovn missions as well :)
@@baardk2 If missions can be made, you know they will be.
Great video, and looks an awesome aircraft. Thank you for posting!
- in absence of notes, would it be wise to retract re-fill valves first, BEFORE accelerating to take-off?
Looking fwd to MSFS portraying water splash effects to really take hold of water ops!
The flight manual does specify to raise the probes (official word for scoops) as soon as the tanks are full. Some aircraft have automatic retraction of the probes.
and how to get it? I pre-ordered the Aviator version with the bag that goes with it, but I didn't figure out how to get this plane.
I saw it after perhaps three days? It was in the list of "not installed" add-ons in my profile.
"Pelican" is the French call sign for the CL-145 (sécurité civile)
My hats off you Jonathan. I took a lok at your ko-fi and I see you sold already like 10 000+ checklists with minimum payment 3 pounds per each. So did you really make 30 000 pounds just by selling checklists? That is amazing I would never thought this is possible :D
No - they used to be free. I only started charging for them in the last few months :)
I preordered through steam. Where do i find the Cl 415. its not in my content manager. Thx
Can I find this plane in the 2020 version?
12:18 Actually, with the engines off, the propellers are feathered. (:
Yes - I mis-spoke - the blades to rotate towards being flat to the air (no pitch) when the propeller control levers are advanced
@@jonbeckett Aye, it is not uncommon for PT-6A powered aircraft to move to the feathered position upon shutdown due to the lack of oil pressure in the propeller hub. Some have locks that prevent this like the Twin Otter but I have never really figured out why some stay flat while most feather. The C-130 is another example of staying flat on shutdown but I do not know the reason for it, though it uses a turboprop version of the T700-GE-702 that the Apache and the Blackhawk use.
With the modelling do you think after filling the water tanks up is that modelled on the internal view.
I didn't think to look at that! :)
Darn.. now I've got something else to go and have a look at in the plane while flying with a load of water
@@normanbyrne9868 how do you get this plane as I cannot see it on Market place?
Just pre-ordered MSFS2024 on Steam, so this aircraft has arrived in FS2022. I agree with you on the build quality - absolutely superb. One thing though; if you have the yoke hidden, is there another button somewhere for releasing the water ?
Good question :)
Maybe "toggle water ballast dump" like for gliders?
The interior of this reminds me of a spaceship from Star Citizen. Odd the strobe worked for me, I do have a hardware bind though when I pressed it first, and it worked on subsequent manual clicks.... I also noticed the fuel was really really unbalanced on the first load too. Also noticed that the ground power is stuck on too... I'm curious how much of this won't happen in 2024, because you have the EFB to presumably control those things. I also had a lot of difficulty trimming the aircraft, always seemed to be a bit too much either way and using heading/course on the Bravo moved it in increments of 10 (which I guess something similar is happening to trim).
Otherwise, a fun modern yet simple aircraft that constantly reminds me of the one from the old Tailspin cartoon. My main gripe, other than the few minor bugs is the lack of GPS/AP. It'd be nice to have but, oh well. Although there is a GPS 1 and 2 button above the altimeter, so maybe there is a GPS in the 2024 version and the system it uses isn't available in 2020. Anyway, its a fun plane to fly, best flying boat we have I'd say and if this is the quality of the default aircraft... god damn.
I noticed the fuel after I landed - which explained why the plane lurched left on take-off, and why it was such a handful lol - at least it reflects that the weight had a marked effect on it's performance :) (note to self - don't record videos after 1am lol)
Yes - I wrote on an FB page, "If this is a taster for FS2024, then we are in for a banquet!" - fingers crossed that this new modelling does indeed become the new benchmark! I just pulled the big red lever to dump my water, same effect!
Thanks for posting this! Amazing detail, the future of flight simulation is going to be very interesting. What computer power is going to be required to run at full potential?
320 fenix got the best 3d modelling to me
wish it was a bit longer
I preordered MSFS 2024 from the Xbox app but I have MSFS 202 through Steam. I did not get the firefighting aircraft in MSFS 2020. However, to clarify, I just preordered it lats night so maybe I will see it in a couple of days.
I am interested to know if you received it yet as it's been a few days now
You should really do an in depth video on SayIntentions recent updates. Absolutely superb program that is hard to fly without. Please!!!
Question, how does she perform? I mean does the aircraft feel like it is simulated well? The ONE thing X-Plane simmers say is that MSFS 2020 feels like it is on rails, does this aircraft alleviate that?
That will come with the flight model changes in the 2024 sim. This plane does the best it can with the 2020 flight model, but isn’t a good judge of what’s to come feel-wise.
I have rarely seen such a beautifully modeled aircraft in the sim. I'm looking forward to the final version in FS2024! I have a few questions about your PC configuration, which you show in your description. Did you split the 4TB? Do you have Windows and the Flightsim on separate hard drives? I'm asking because I want to edit videos with my new PC and also want to store this on a separate hard drive, so I need several slots without having to connect and disconnect external storage media via USB every time. Best regards an well done!
No - at the moment I only have 1 4Tb C drive. I'm already thinking about getting a second NVME drive before MSFS2024 arrives.
I wasnt going to pre order because I have Game Pass but I think you sold me.
how long did you wait until you recieved that aircraft? I preordered the 2024 and I'm still waiting.
thanks
I saw it after perhaps three days? I hadn't checked the purchased items list previously though.
@@jonbeckett gotcha, MS must be still catching up on the preorders. ill give them some more time. that plane looks fun.
Many thanks for this. If you pre-order on Steam do you get this aircraft? Steam doesn't mention the plane, as opposed to the Microsoft order page.
I have no idea - sorry.
I use steam and the plane is not in the sim. Maybe later...
I bought MSFS2000 on steam originally. Since I have ordered MSFS2024 limited collector’s edition and I don't see the plane either. Confused. Nametag is correct.
Hi Jonathan, this aircraft comes with some small bugs. You need to check the fuel closely. You started with a massive fuel imbalance. The left tank was full and the Right tank was empty. It happens to me everytime I start cold and dark.
@@Virtusim have to turn on the crossfeed switch
I noticed the fuel after I landed - which explained why the plane lurched left on take-off, and why it was such a handful lol - at least it reflects that the weight had a marked effect on it's performance :) (note to self - don't record videos after 1am lol)
@@567davefair That's not what the crossfeed valve is for. You only select crossfeed when either the left or righthand engine fails. Crossfeed opens a valve and is not a pump. Otherwise there should be a transferpump to transfer fuel from the left or righthand tank. Crossfeed is only to be used in an emergency. For example one engine inoperative. So you can feed the good engine out of both fueltanks.
Anyhow, the in game checklist is not correct. The fuelpumps should not be turned off after startup, but after takeoff with the crossfeed valve still closed.
Very Kewl
Too clean? 2024 planes should have (relatively) pristine textures, as all planes will get dirty with use in 2024, right..
LOL "If anything it is a bit to shiny and clean" not if I am the crew chief and I let my OCD run wild hehehehehe
Does this mean that MSFS2024 planes will work in MS2020 as well?
This is a special case - they prepared a version for MSFS 2020
@@jonbeckett ahhh ok. Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, keep up the great videos
Does anyone see a future for firefighting drones intead of CL 415 with a price tag of 55million usd--Chinese working on HH-100 and CH-YH1000 Spanish working on Singular Aircraft Flyox,future is in lidar,drone,AI command control maybe
impressive: all the French words have no misspellings.
Shouldn’t be as I believe this plane was made by Asobo, a French company.
an absorbing video. I like to make such videos too.
No Door action. Devastated !!!
I like it very much that they did NOT bother to "age" the aircraft with rust and wear and tear. as these are absolutely not necessary.
@@jacquesdemolay2699 Opinions vary on this. Why not offer both versions for persons that use their planes for more than flying to their house once and want to immerse in a plane that is actually used?
Based on content we’ve seen for MSFS2024, I believe the aircraft models will typically start brand-new and get worn and dirty over time and with use. I’m sure that can be reset though.
CL415✈🚒🤩Traduction automatique s'il vous plaît~😂🙏
And I went and blew my $29 on the 707!! Sheeesh!!!
29? It was 14 or 10 if you have mfsm deluxe
Demand a refund !!!
@@tonyf9076 👍
Stop flaunting this plane into my face, I do not want to pre-order :(
It's not worth it. Its Captain sim level junk!
@@petkez Is it?
Its junk. Makes Captain sims aircraft look good.