There Is No V8 In The All New 2022 Ford Bronco Raptor: I Ask Ford Why!

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  • @frh-freerangehuman
    @frh-freerangehuman 2 года назад +432

    I like how he basically dodged the v8 question. Good pre interview prep by the spin doctors

    • @JDMHaze
      @JDMHaze 2 года назад +5

      yeappp,,,

    • @jacobmoore6214
      @jacobmoore6214 2 года назад +31

      He didn’t dodge it based on the alternatives of what Ford had they looked at the 5.0 a and everything else and didn’t like the torque and hp curve for this particular vehicle

    • @frh-freerangehuman
      @frh-freerangehuman 2 года назад +8

      @@jacobmoore6214 after watching that part again, you make a great point.

    • @ryryshredder148
      @ryryshredder148 2 года назад +37

      @@jacobmoore6214 The decision was completely based on not poaching sales from the F150 raptor. If the actual reason for no V8 was just the power curves they would have put the 3.5 engine in it instead of the 3.0

    • @mikedurham3563
      @mikedurham3563 2 года назад +2

      @@ryryshredder148 The 3.5 is overly torquey vs the 3.0 or 2.7. They more likely wanted that top end punch the 3.5 doesn't typically have. In driving, the 2.7 acts more like a small block and the 3.5 a big block. I've only driven the 3.0 in a car, but it wasn't overly punchy on the bottom, but was still okay on the top.

  • @DonnEStarside
    @DonnEStarside 2 года назад +48

    "Did you ever ever consider a V8?"
    "Uhh, well, see if you drive with this motor you'll see the curve is smooth so we thought this was the right motor."
    I thought this guy works for Ford, but he clearly prefers to Dodge.

  • @noah22261
    @noah22261 2 года назад +178

    That lead engineer could have brought up smog laws, hp numbers, engine weight, manufacturing cost and he choose to dodge the question entirely. Gotta love corporate ford

    • @rts3613
      @rts3613 2 года назад +7

      He said it was 3.0L 418hp with 440 ft lb torque. Google says it weighs 445#. Does anyone make a production vehicle not smog legal in all states? As for manufacturing cost, why would he bring that up? I could have missed it, but I didn't hear the question asked for him to have "dodged" it.

    • @richardwheeler3768
      @richardwheeler3768 2 года назад +11

      He dodged the question about whether they had thought about the V8 as well.

    • @chir0pter
      @chir0pter 2 года назад +5

      I mean they did win Le Mans with basically this engine in the 2017+ Ford GT. I know they only did _that_ to give the V6tt platform performance cred but it can't be denied that it now has performance cred, powering a Le Mans winning hyperexotic!

    • @dennissmith7214
      @dennissmith7214 2 года назад +5

      @@richardwheeler3768 Yeah that’s the real one people wanted to know that he bobbed and weaved! 😳😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @dennissmith7214
      @dennissmith7214 2 года назад +2

      @@rts3613 Yes many vehicles sold are meet California’s strict smog legal standards and are legal to be sold in 50 all 50 states besides all the EV manufacturers that manufacture vehicles😒, google is definitely not correct all the time and it would have been great to hear it from the engineer. Third he most definitely dodge and didn’t answer the why not a V8 question🫢.

  • @brianowens1002
    @brianowens1002 2 года назад +259

    Did you consider the v8?
    The 3.0 is the right answer for this vehicle.
    Thanks for not answering the question

    • @multicons
      @multicons 2 года назад +4

      it's a marketing strategy, they don't build Broncos from V8 to 2.3 ecoboost engines. Same with their F150's, Explorers and Expeditions. It's not gonna be selling the Timberline first then last would be the XLT models. Besides, they have to release the F150 Raptor V8 first.

    • @getlosttoday4045
      @getlosttoday4045 2 года назад +13

      I am sure they have tied hands from a government standpoint too

    • @VideosOffRoad
      @VideosOffRoad 2 года назад +2

      Amen. Nailed it.

    • @brianowens1002
      @brianowens1002 2 года назад +12

      @@getlosttoday4045 but Jeep doesn’t?

    • @getlosttoday4045
      @getlosttoday4045 2 года назад +4

      @@brianowens1002 depends on the government fines I am sure. Ford mostly eliminated most v8 motor vehicles for years now. Or they get a kickback from the government.

  • @StormyWeather93
    @StormyWeather93 2 года назад +89

    The fact that there isn't a coyote in this is absolutely nuts. That was my biggest excitement in the Bronco coming back. I was planning on getting one but I think I'll hold off.

    • @plutodestroyer12
      @plutodestroyer12 2 года назад +10

      these high sprung turbo motors from ford has not been reliable at all…. they shoving them in anything and everything. even a new raptor with a tuned coyote would be much cooler than the raptor now. same power.

    • @StormyWeather93
      @StormyWeather93 2 года назад +7

      @@plutodestroyer12 Yeah I've been hearing a lot of major recalls are going down for these motors. What a shame, and to think there's guys out here paying over $100k for these. Bet they feel smart now. I want the 5.0 mostly because thats where it goes. The OG's had the option and everyone loves the sound of a V8. Have a V6 on something that is supposed to be the ultimate vehicle is a bit silly.

    • @enriquereboyras4381
      @enriquereboyras4381 2 года назад

      Lol

    • @mynameisfrank6519
      @mynameisfrank6519 2 года назад +5

      I have a 2 door badlands Sasquatch with 2.7 and it is amazing. It’s lighter and has 315 hp and 400 Torque. Can be tuned and a exhaust etc it would be crazy. I have 3 fox body mustangs so I understand the v8 but the Bronco is fun.

    • @StormyWeather93
      @StormyWeather93 2 года назад +3

      @@mynameisfrank6519 Fun maybe but also those motors have a time limit on them. Lotta recalls are dropping.

  • @jeffpalmer9773
    @jeffpalmer9773 2 года назад +44

    My dealer laughed at me when I asked if I could get anywhere near MSRP for one of these. He said there would be a $20,000 minimum markup for all Bronco Raptors, and that he could sell them with absolutely no problem at that price all day long. Even if you do have unlimited funds at your disposal, there is no way this thing is worth $100,000. I'm a fan, I obviously would like one, but even with the upgraded goodies the total package is not worth that.

    • @BrianBourgeois-
      @BrianBourgeois- 2 года назад +4

      Something’s worth what someone is willing to pay. If someone is willing to pay 100k for a vehicle means it’s worth that to them. It just isn’t worth that to you.

    • @brandonmoore5988
      @brandonmoore5988 2 года назад +3

      It’s worth exactly what someone is willing to pay

    • @MaestroJericho
      @MaestroJericho 2 года назад +1

      Yeah I see the all the current vehicles with these markups from 4runners to Tellurides to Broncos and just know they absolutely can sell them with those markups. I've seen base Broncos for over $50k at dealerships get sold still fairly quickly.

    • @jeffpalmer9773
      @jeffpalmer9773 2 года назад +2

      @Toasty The problem is you can't switch dealers for Raptor orders. You have to use whomever you selected for your initial reservation. I already have one Bronco on order with no vin yet, but even if I switched to a Raptor, they said you can't switch dealers. I'm actually in Utah too. Which dealer do you use, if you don't mind me asking? When I set up my initial reservation, I just picked the dealer I thought would have the best chance at getting the biggest allotment of Broncos. This is my first new Ford, so I have never bought through a Ford dealership before.

    • @jeffpalmer9773
      @jeffpalmer9773 2 года назад +1

      @Toasty But yeah, I guess I could wait for a different year, but the way Ford is going, I don't know that I would still be alive when it finally gets produced.

  • @paulira7407
    @paulira7407 2 года назад +74

    Everyone knows why. Making the Raptor R more of an exclusive product by having the V8 only on that model and Ford knowing people will pay extra just for that one feature alone over the non-Raptor R. 🤑

    • @garysarratt1
      @garysarratt1 2 года назад +12

      …and then an RX, and then RX Elite, then RX2 XLT RZR MOTOBAJA SUPER X ♾ ULTRA XTREME LIMITED

    • @harveywang9516
      @harveywang9516 2 года назад +8

      @@garysarratt1 they really should hire you

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 2 года назад +5

      still over priced asf

    • @VictorDeveze
      @VictorDeveze 2 года назад

      @@garysarratt1 there already is a Bronco R race truck lol only 50 made though

    • @boostav
      @boostav 2 года назад

      Yeah they're definitely holding the V8 back for a Bronco Raptor R. However they should have at least put the same 3.5L EcoBoost as the F-150 Raptor.

  • @okniceguy
    @okniceguy 2 года назад +35

    He didn't even come close to answering the question about the V8.
    I would think one may come down the line due to demand. Cash in on the ecoboost now, then bring the V8 later.

    • @JDMHaze
      @JDMHaze 2 года назад +4

      perhaps, but I would be pissed if I bought the egoboost and the v8 came out

    • @garysarratt1
      @garysarratt1 2 года назад +1

      Another thought: you need a turbo or supercharger for altitude. The v-8 would need it too, and we have this here thing already working pretty well, sooo… voila! TT 6 it is.

    • @okniceguy
      @okniceguy 2 года назад +2

      @@garysarratt1 You are no longer invited to my party, Sarratt.

  • @FletchDoesIt
    @FletchDoesIt 2 года назад +8

    Thank you for being humble enough to ask detailed questions (what is SMC). So many folks just pretend they understand… I didn’t know either and learned something. Thank you!

  • @statenmorgan962
    @statenmorgan962 2 года назад +36

    He ducked the V8 question

  • @stevesmith2770
    @stevesmith2770 2 года назад +79

    Still love it - but seems like Ford thought about a possible V8 power train for less than 5 minutes. I just don't want the higher maintenance costs that eventually show up with all turbos.

    • @jghall00
      @jghall00 2 года назад

      Extended warranty. It's a 70k vehicle. Got to pay to play.

    • @Lakikano
      @Lakikano 2 года назад +16

      @@jghall00 I don’t know about you, but if I spend 70k on a vehicle I want it to be reliable and durable.

    • @jghall00
      @jghall00 2 года назад +1

      @@Lakikano This isn't the work truck market. These vehicles are meant for play, not work. If you want a 70k vehicle that's reliable, you get a 3/4 ton with the 7.3. Not a driveway queen with twin turbos.

  • @mr_bmen1116
    @mr_bmen1116 2 года назад +13

    interviewer: why no V8?
    him: the V6 was the right engine
    some random RUclipsr: Fine you don't give me a V8 i will put a Dodge or Chevy V8 and make like 10 videos out of it

    • @donaldliverance2597
      @donaldliverance2597 2 года назад +1

      It needs a hemi so it can't really pretend it's a jeep

  • @martindouglass3248
    @martindouglass3248 2 года назад +42

    Engine compartment looks like someone took a crate full of hoses and dumped them in all at once.

    • @andyham6094
      @andyham6094 2 года назад

      Right? I mean it prolly doesn’t make a difference at the end of the day but for a vehicle at this price and for consumers who want a truck like this which is basically a badass toy, you want everything to be top notch and attention to detail for everything. Seems they did a great job for everything but like you said when you open the hood, it’s not a beautiful thing to look at. A halo vehicle like this are for dudes who actually like popping the hood, workin on their trucks or just showin it all off but there’s literally nothing to show off under the hood cause it’s so messy and unorganized and not well thought out. The normal bronco is the same thing but I expected the raptor bronco to actually have an engine cover and look better underneath.

    • @GDunc
      @GDunc 2 года назад +1

      Culmination of over engineering... What a mess?!?!

  • @markcoopers1930
    @markcoopers1930 2 года назад +40

    Was a V8 ever considered? "...The 3L (V6), as we looked at different alternatives, was the right motor..."
    Got flashbacks to election season debates. Politicians' "answer" if I've ever heard one. 😂

    • @JDMHaze
      @JDMHaze 2 года назад +3

      lmaoo damnn rightt,,

    • @Ballista762
      @Ballista762 2 года назад +1

      Very accurate analogy

    • @richardthomas1531
      @richardthomas1531 2 года назад

      Right ,Politicians and Car Salesmen.

    • @PellySideCustoms
      @PellySideCustoms 2 года назад +3

      standard 37 inch tires and a heavy ass vehicle and the “V6” was the right choice 😂 what a joke

  • @darrendaine4914
    @darrendaine4914 2 года назад +21

    Seeing all these new raptor Broncos when they haven't even produced my Bronco ordered last year over 400 days ago pisses me off

    • @aggiewoodie
      @aggiewoodie 2 года назад +1

      1) these aren’t being mass produced in large numbers, or even delivered, yet;
      2) margins.

    • @USA__WILL
      @USA__WILL 2 года назад +1

      Ford wants you to upgrade to this

    • @darrendaine4914
      @darrendaine4914 2 года назад +1

      @@aggiewoodie No but they use a lot of microchips that could be putting out people's orders from a year ago

    • @freedomisntfree_44
      @freedomisntfree_44 2 года назад

      @@darrendaine4914 figure they’d start making their own chips for real

    • @darrendaine4914
      @darrendaine4914 2 года назад +1

      @@freedomisntfree_44 They did announce a partnership with a major tip manufacturer

  • @cessealbeach
    @cessealbeach 2 года назад +27

    Got Ecoboost since 2013, used to have the V8, the ecoboost engines puts out a lot of power torque and so much fun to drive but not great for heavy towing and needs to be on top of fluid changes unlike a V8

    • @jordanragin1615
      @jordanragin1615 2 года назад +7

      ecoboost engines sound like shit

    • @robd1859
      @robd1859 2 года назад +2

      It needs the V8 sound is Harley-Davidson saying we're changing our V-Twin and we're going to start offering a 4-cylinder. They would go out of business in a week. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Buy them not offering a V8 they lost my business

    • @robd1859
      @robd1859 2 года назад

      @@jordanragin1615 they sound like a wet pussy fart

    • @ec3886
      @ec3886 2 года назад

      Bye, Felicia

  • @blairbrown4812
    @blairbrown4812 2 года назад +12

    If I wasn't convinced into buying the Jeep 392 before, I certainly am now.
    Leno was only partially right. Car companies nowadays maybe one by Engineers, but they are still being represented by politicians. And lawyers.

  • @shiftmotorsports9803
    @shiftmotorsports9803 2 года назад +36

    I want to know who was behind those fender flares. If they re-did the fenders and quarters, why didn't they widen them 2 or 3 more inches to lessen the size of the flare? It looks cheap. I realize the big flares are better regarding trail damage, but at $80k and it's width, I don't think you'll see many on tight trails in the woods. Just my .02

    • @13christbane
      @13christbane 2 года назад +5

      this is just going to be a mall crawler for 90% of the units sold

    • @Alex-gf4ew
      @Alex-gf4ew 2 года назад +4

      Assembly line constraint. The truck is too wide to fit in then paint section which is why the mirrors aren’t painted as well as the fenders

    • @garysarratt1
      @garysarratt1 2 года назад +1

      @@Alex-gf4ew Really?

    • @stepdadchronicles2406
      @stepdadchronicles2406 2 года назад

      @@garysarratt1 yes and most people will take them off anyways or get aftermarket ones anyways saves ford money

    • @Skinflaps_Meatslapper
      @Skinflaps_Meatslapper Год назад

      Should have relocated the a-arm mounting points inward to get more length and travel rather than just dangling them even further out. The Bronco is wide enough as it is FFS

  • @talktomn
    @talktomn 2 года назад +20

    I was sold on a Bronco. I waited anxiously for the Raptor launch. Finally when it came out I placed my order… for a 392 Wrangler.

    • @hotrod7603
      @hotrod7603 2 года назад +9

      2 min silence for you , enjoy daily service centre trips

    • @Mursedave
      @Mursedave 2 года назад +7

      I don’t blame you! I did the same except ordered a TRX. I couldn’t be happier with the truck. Bye bye Ford.

    • @Welcometofacsistube
      @Welcometofacsistube 2 года назад +1

      @@Mursedave you misspelled Pherd

    • @camooo101
      @camooo101 2 года назад +5

      @@thomaswood5246 Neither with the wranglers. When people think jeep they think unreliable. Every major car review sources says the same. Also Ford released a vehicle that has been retired since 1996. For the next few years it will have issues until they work out the kinks. Historicaly Ford has been a way more reliable company then jeep or even Stellantis will ever be. Sadly jeep being owned by their Netherlands/Chinese daddy, quality/reliability is not their number once concern. Ford being independent and top 5 global vehicle manufacturer has the ability to do whatever they want without asking anyone except for road regulations (NHTSA). Can't say the same about jeep.

    • @Welcometofacsistube
      @Welcometofacsistube 2 года назад +1

      @@camooo101 lol bs.

  • @damilolaakanni
    @damilolaakanni 2 года назад +24

    The 3.0 ecoboost is not a very bad engine, but most of us prefer the great sound of the V8. Which is why Jeep gave in to demands for a V8 in the Wrangler...and they fit the biggest V8 they could under the hood, the 6.4.

    • @pabo8080
      @pabo8080 2 года назад +4

      The V8 will also more than likely outlive the boosted 6. Less stress, less things to go wrong, less expensive to maintain long term.

    • @goncalotr
      @goncalotr 2 года назад +1

      They put the V8 in because other than the engine the bronco is a more modern and superior product, ford doesn't put a V8 because there is no competition on that market other than the jeep

    • @KingofKingz8224
      @KingofKingz8224 2 года назад +1

      @@goncalotr if the Bronco is a superior product, why are so many people trading them back in for Wranglers? Most videos I've ever seen on the Bronco is that the build quality is garbage, they're mostly meant to just drive on pavement.

  • @TheBstakz
    @TheBstakz 2 года назад +6

    (Personal opinion from me, even though I’m employed under Ford) The way that Ford’s management is structured, I personally believe that “chief program engineers” who are in charge of a certain vehicle do not fully understand the vehicles they are responsible for. They know the basics of all the specs for different trims, but their main purpose is to make sure that manufacturing is in progress and not too far off track. As long as the vehicles roll off the lines without too many issues, they’ll be good. The only other thing they have to do is talk to journalists and media, and that’s it.

  • @kubeanie18
    @kubeanie18 2 года назад +22

    It's because they don't want to spoil the Ford Bronco raptor R with the 5.0. he had a lot of vague answers to your questions

    • @geoffmooregm
      @geoffmooregm 2 года назад

      Doubt it. They will probably use the high output 3.5L V6.

    • @kubeanie18
      @kubeanie18 2 года назад

      @@geoffmooregm All right that's what they said about the raptor F-150 but look at that. It has a 760 horsepower Voodoo V8.

  • @chadwood4296
    @chadwood4296 2 года назад +5

    Forgets to mention the "only" way it achieves the power to roll down the road is turbos spooled up to the max and creating massive amounts of heat., at least have the option for a V8. Still love the way it looks..

  • @dalebergersen7782
    @dalebergersen7782 2 года назад +14

    They took the same engine - re-engineered the induction and exhaust for measurable improvements - but - Gee, don't apply that to all the Ecoboost engines - that would make too much sense. We can call it "Better" and "Raptor" and charge tons of money for the same engine.

  • @Cosminox54
    @Cosminox54 2 года назад +1

    "It's up to the task!" Lol that's apparently the theme here.
    I love how much he says that... and I find it interesting how he completely evades the question about the V8.

  • @tommytube268
    @tommytube268 2 года назад +8

    That engine sounds great but how can a mechanic work on that spaghetti bowl?

    • @13christbane
      @13christbane 2 года назад +1

      it sounds horrible

    • @tommytube268
      @tommytube268 2 года назад

      @@13christbane Sorry not actually the sound of engine, but the horsepower and torque numbers lol

  • @maxmax155
    @maxmax155 2 года назад +3

    Despite avoiding answering about de V8 that thing looks a blast to ride!

  • @chevyman1669
    @chevyman1669 2 года назад +6

    Put a 5.0 in it !

    • @fjoco1
      @fjoco1 2 года назад

      Why that would be a downgrade.

  • @dizzyreckless5991
    @dizzyreckless5991 2 года назад +14

    Thanks for making the trip and covering this in person. Shame that these corps. hired a politician to take you through the walkthrough of the vehicle. Engine, no answer... SMC - i.e we used plastic 'cause it's cheap and we were in a hurry... Fenders - they were cheap to do and we couldn't really be bothered... Additional 'bracing' - they look cool and we can tell you the 'raptor driver' will feel it... and so on and so on... oh well, at least you were able to keep a straight face. Let's get some more politicians answering questions (or not).

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 2 года назад +16

    This thing will really impress them down at the Walmart parking lot

    • @mowcowbell
      @mowcowbell 2 года назад

      And in the drive thru at Starbucks.

  • @shanelen
    @shanelen 2 года назад +15

    seems to be more marketing than true substance given the price bump

  • @MidSouthUTV
    @MidSouthUTV 2 года назад +5

    Yet they offer a V8 in the Ford Performance race Bronco DR, but not for the masses.

  • @privas8751
    @privas8751 2 года назад

    Love how he knew this guy was being PR at his finest answering about the vehicle 11:02. Good questions to ask

  • @CaptainRudy4021
    @CaptainRudy4021 2 года назад +4

    People don't care if the ecoboost is just as powerful as a V8. We want the sound. The V6 is not a good sounding engine.

  • @pizzaslapper
    @pizzaslapper 2 года назад +1

    Great interview Tommy. Great questions, very engaging interview.

  • @robsolf
    @robsolf 2 года назад +18

    The specs are probably more flat for the 3.0, but a V8 would have made for a better experience. I don't really understand the philosophy of creating an enthusiast vehicle but going the practical route with the powerplant.

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 2 года назад +2

      Emissions regulations, government fuel economy mandates, and a host of other reasons.

    • @Redrash12
      @Redrash12 2 года назад +7

      @@rdsii64 Emissions regulations my hairy ass. Chrysler has nearly the whole Dodge range (and some of the Jeeps too) with the 6.2 Hemi V8, and I don’t see them pussying out.

    • @vanderz1012
      @vanderz1012 2 года назад

      @@Redrash12 they're going the pussy out way though let's be honest. Their new Hurricane 6 pot says it all. Only a matter of time now

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 2 года назад +2

      @@Redrash12 Those hemi's are getting replaced with the inline 6 twin turbo hurricane engine. Chrysler has prototypes that make 500 hp. Love it or hate it but big v8's are going away.

    • @The-fs5wn
      @The-fs5wn 2 года назад +1

      @@Redrash12 Don’t forget a truck, too!

  • @JWFX4
    @JWFX4 2 года назад +8

    I love the specs on this. The suspension travel is awesome, the upgrades are fantastic, but man, some of the looks are tacky. It looks like Xibit found out you liked fender flares and put fender flares on your fender flares. I get why they dad to do it, but I think a wide body would look a ton better.

    • @kg0311
      @kg0311 2 года назад +1

      I think they look silly too lol

  • @JogBird
    @JogBird 2 года назад +14

    he could have just said its 2022 and MPG ... ppl would have understood and moved on

  • @russellhancock9765
    @russellhancock9765 2 года назад +14

    I think it is a mistake to discontinue a V-8 engine, however after My 1998 Expedition blowing spark plugs, I don't know what is best. I have heard that they are having trouble with turbo charged engines too. I have also heard that Electric Vehicles don't work very good for towing trailers. I don't know what to tell You. It kinda sounds impossible to get anything that is Quality Built anymore!!!!

    • @markcoopers1930
      @markcoopers1930 2 года назад +2

      There's lots to hear when everyone has something to say. TFL at least shows us proof: we see the video of how vehicles handle challenges, we see when transmissions overheat, when tires slip (or pop), and the pain at the pump.
      You know for a fact you had certain issues. If everything else was great, then researching if those issues have been resolved since or are found in other Ford engines is a good place to start. And ignore the "that car's trash" -end statement type folks. If they can't explain why, they probably don't know how to care for even the most foolproof engine.
      CR is a great resource, but their reliability data is mostly based on consumers volunteering info. And we all know AT LEAST one person who calls a vehicle trash even though they never changed the oil or diff fluid, never removed road salt, don't know how to use a smart phone etc. You really have to dig (and only on the high volume models) to see specific issues and comments from consumers that they polled.

    • @mackjones7688
      @mackjones7688 2 года назад +1

      I prefer V8's for towing. I use a 4.0L straight with my Jeep. Tows fantastic. No turbo to break down. Very reliable. I have a 5.7 Chevy 3/4 ton truck. Good and reliable. I have a 5.9L Magnum 1500. Tows good too. Very reliable. Ford had some issues with spark plugs and stripping out threads with their Triton V8's. Never was a problem with 80's and 90's Fords. I hear the new Coyote is very reliable, no spark plug thread issues. So what is best really depends on you selecting the appropriate vehicle of the right brand and year with as few problems as possible with the engine, transmission, and suspension. Electrical issues are also good to look at. No one likes solving electrical problems.

  • @muddiver91
    @muddiver91 2 года назад +2

    Great interview Tommy !

  • @duneattack
    @duneattack 2 года назад

    Excellent Video! Thank you!!!!

  • @jptexasdbscg9264
    @jptexasdbscg9264 2 года назад +6

    Would be better with a 5.0, or turbo charge a 5.0 and call it the “ Ecobeast”

  • @tomturner5675
    @tomturner5675 2 года назад

    Excellent review!!

  • @Michael-yt2nv
    @Michael-yt2nv 2 года назад +15

    Gotta love how he dances around the subject about the V8 question and doesn’t answer Tommy’s question! Nobody is ever held accountable anymore

  • @markschuster4174
    @markschuster4174 2 года назад +16

    That guy is wrong. The V8 is the right motor.

    • @camooo101
      @camooo101 2 года назад

      Until the US government and go green crazies push for banning the sales of V8 motors 🤣. Unfortunately combustion engines will eventually diminish. In 10-20 years more than 50% of vehicles on the road will be electric.

    • @nm-qt2hb
      @nm-qt2hb 2 года назад

      And why is this?

    • @camooo101
      @camooo101 2 года назад

      @@nm-qt2hb every car manufacturer is producing/designing electric vehicles alternatives. Also there're alot more electric infrastructure investments happening. Give it 5 years there will be charging stations everywhere. I'm not pro it, personally I prefer gas engine and I don't even care if gas is 5 bucks a gallon. But government will eventually make it painful to own gas cars. Even logistics trucks are starting to come out with electric alternatives. It is what it is.

  • @PhillyDee215
    @PhillyDee215 2 года назад +7

    👉💨💨💨MAKE AMERICA V8 AGAIN😎‼️

  • @Moezer
    @Moezer 2 года назад +11

    No mention about the weak steering the bronco suffers from?

  • @jkxelor1295
    @jkxelor1295 2 года назад +4

    Does the Raptor have the ridiculous auto stop start? Does it have the maddening Ford seat belt chime? If so I’m out. The appearance of the fender flares also have to be reconsidered. Those look like a cheap aftermarket accessory made by Rugged Ridge. Other than that it’s pretty cool

  • @getlosttoday4045
    @getlosttoday4045 2 года назад +1

    Best interview to date!

  • @Mursedave
    @Mursedave 2 года назад +9

    I can’t imagine being a Ford Performance powertrain engineer and being excited to come to work to create a V6 for a vehicle like this. Smooth or not, the thing needs a V8. This guy barely acknowledged Tommy’s question. This is why I am no longer a Ford fanboy. Kudos to Tommy for asking!

    • @virgfresco1403
      @virgfresco1403 2 года назад

      V8 DOESN'T SELL. IT DRINK PREMIUM GAS LIKE SODA! V6 WITH TURBO GOT MORE POWER THAT NATURALY ASPERATED V8, THAT WAS PROVEN WITH THE DEMAND IN F150 WITH V8 VS F150 V6 TURBO! IT'S ABOUT ENGINE SUFISTICATION AND NEW TECHNOLOGY!

    • @Chrisamici
      @Chrisamici 2 года назад +3

      Twin turbo with more torque than the f150 raptor! I think it’s time to get over the number of cylinders

    • @MyBallers
      @MyBallers 2 года назад +1

      @@Chrisamici or we turbo the 5.0

    • @Mursedave
      @Mursedave 2 года назад +1

      @@Chrisamici exactly right, it takes two turbos to get up into the range of V8 power. These is nothing satisfying about driving around in a massive truck/SUV and hearing a fart noise come out of the exhaust of your awesome V6! 😀
      Trust me I know, I owned an ecoboost F-150 and an ecoboost Raptor and it always left more to be desired when driving. Especially off-roading; that V8 grunt is just a much better experience. People that like ecoboost trucks and Mustangs probably like to put exhaust mods on Honda Civics too.

    • @Mursedave
      @Mursedave 2 года назад +1

      @@virgfresco1403 and enthusiasts that want these vehicles don’t care about MPG’s either. Have you ever driven and ecoboost Raptor or any ecoboost? They don’t get very good MPG if you are in the boost.

  • @chir0pter
    @chir0pter 2 года назад +1

    So cool to be able to get all this engineering from the factory. As far as the engine, I know they mainly did the Ford GT & Le Mans to give the V6tt platform performance cred, but it can't be denied that it now has performance cred, powering a Le Mans winning hyperexotic! I bet you could reproduce the Ford GT exhaust note with a few simple mods

  • @Shibata63
    @Shibata63 2 года назад

    This guy sounds more like a Politician than an Engineer. Tommys questions were answered more like a Politician. This is what we did we feel its
    the best and you will like it.

  • @LMach1
    @LMach1 2 года назад +3

    How likely is it to get one of these at MSRP? Very happy that Ford is going direct to customer sales.

  • @etmccaus
    @etmccaus 2 года назад

    Gotta love the Defender 90 trolling in the background...

  • @shanechepren8119
    @shanechepren8119 2 года назад +9

    Ford knew we wanted a V8 and chose a V6 anyways.

    • @fjoco1
      @fjoco1 2 года назад

      Why a V8?

  • @markv78
    @markv78 2 года назад +2

    A very diplomatic answer to the v8 question but thanks Tommy for asking the question . I'd be concerned of the durability of those smc fenders for paint fade especially on red I think this will be next issue for these since the roof they either with fade peel or crack

  • @rso1411
    @rso1411 Год назад +1

    "Did you ever ever consider a V8?" Then the engineer answers like a politician.

  • @Chrisamici
    @Chrisamici 2 года назад

    Great video! Love this Bronco! Can it be towed 4 down??

  • @jamesbladen9904
    @jamesbladen9904 2 года назад +1

    The Ford rep did a real good job of glossing over the point about not putting a V8 in the Raptor Bronco. For 80,000 thousand dollars I still want the opportunity to have a Coyote in my Bronco. I can stick a supercharger on my V8 and just like the Jeep, have some big horsepower. I do have an Explorer ST with the 300 and it does go fast on the street. My next vehicle will be either a F150 with a Coyote V8 or a F250 with a 7.3 gas motor. As you can see, I am old school just like the first Gen Bronco with a 302 V8. If Ford ever decided to put a V8 in the new Bronco, then you have my undivided attention.

  • @wesg7931
    @wesg7931 2 года назад +6

    When I heard years ago that Ford was bringing back the Bronco, I was dreaming about adding a v8 convertible off-roader with some towing capacity next to my 2007 Honda Odyssey (family hauler) and 2013 Mustang GT Convertible with a 6-speed manual (last year of Mustang breathed on by Carrol Shelby, RIP). Ford disappointed my expectations in every way when they unveiled what was to be with their standard Bronco lineup. I then thought, hey let’s see what the do with the Raptor version, there is a chance for at least a v8 with that limited edition. Nope, again heard in 2021 another 6 cylinder with seemingly no consideration for what thousands of buyers are asking for. I gave up on Ford as an option period and bought a new 2021 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport 4x4 with the last of the 5.7 litre v8 engines in Jan 2022. While I have more confidence with Ford quality over Jeep, my recently graduated daughter wants a off-road capable convertible and I’m shopping Wrangler because dealers are not added premiums over MSRP like Ford dealers are for Broncos where I live and I know Jeep has a high resale history. My money was ready for a v8 Bronco and Ford continues to disappoint me and the family. Maybe we should ask some of the engineers who worked on the recent Mustang GT500 to join the Bronco Raptor development team, they managed a v8 there on the pony!

    • @timschultes6467
      @timschultes6467 2 года назад +2

      I understand your argument about a V8 but with gas prices set to hit 6$ a gallon why would you want the V8. I have a 2020 f-150 with the 2.7 ecoboost and that thing puts out more torque then my last 5.0 did. I loved my 5.0 but have grown to love this 2.7. It’s a great engine if you change your oil every 5k which I’m ok with

    • @wesg7931
      @wesg7931 2 года назад +2

      I can afford the gas, wouldn’t have bought a truck if I couldn’t. This Tundra/Land Cruiser v8 is extremely well engineered and has over a decade of trouble free operation. The Tundra also has incredible resale value, your 2.7 will never come close to holding its value compared to the Toyota. In fact, I had a debate with a close friend who owns a 2020 GMC 1/2 ton and my brother in law who owns a 2016 GMC 3/4 ton who chastised me for only about 5 mins before I proved to them that I paid $8000.00 less than comparable Ford and GMC 1/2 tons and we used MSRP found online using build and price on websites. 8 grand buys a lot of gas, lol!

    • @bigcountry9457
      @bigcountry9457 2 года назад

      @@timschultes6467 Easy answer, cheaper maintenance in the long run and NO turbos to break. Mileage is arguably the same depending on how you drive.

    • @boostav
      @boostav 2 года назад

      They'll make a Raptor R version of the Bronco V8, you just need to be ready to pay through your nose.

  • @jimmyhorton8297
    @jimmyhorton8297 2 года назад +8

    Wow, dude swerved around the V8 question faster than Ford’s non existent self driving feature. If he could hear anything other than himself talking, he would have heard the beer bottles of the 392 Jeep guys clinking together. Guess marketing didn’t want him to say no V8 because we want to sell more of the insanely expensive Raptor R trucks.

  • @nickwind2584
    @nickwind2584 2 года назад +4

    More power out of a smaller engine, what could go wrong? The early Ecoboost based F-150 Raptors are now starting to fall apart, I don’t have much hope for the Bronco Raptor out of warranty.

    • @Skinflaps_Meatslapper
      @Skinflaps_Meatslapper Год назад

      And the earlier V8 raptors are falling apart too, what's your point?

  • @jamesturpin9091
    @jamesturpin9091 2 года назад +2

    Why? Gas is $7 a gallon. Is not worth it for them to design and produce a vehicle that fewer people are going to be able to pay for. I have a ranger with the 2.3 and was disappointed at first that i couldn't get a v6 our v8 option but with gas prices now I'm glad i have a 200,000+ mile motor that gives me a decent power curve with twice the fuel economy.

  • @FreakyT333
    @FreakyT333 2 года назад

    I just want something, I just want something I can never have, I just want something I can never have… This NIN gem just keep playing in my head while watching Bronco Raptor content.

  • @chir0pter
    @chir0pter 2 года назад +3

    Great video, thanks for answering my questions on the cooling from the other video lol. I am wondering partly from a perspective of how fitting a snorkel might work, but partly because I am interested in how engine bay & intake airflow is managed generally. Just seems like there is a lot of low-hanging fruit there that many manufacturers don't take fully advantage of, but clearly a lot of thought was put in here. I especially like the extractor hood- a relatively simple design underneath that nonetheless is able to enhance throughflow from the grill.
    really cool additions to enhance torsional stiffness too, and that rear three quarters view is just bonkers with that enhanced track width

  • @09blackcobaltss
    @09blackcobaltss 2 года назад +1

    LOL everyone complaining how he didnt answer the V8 question but he really did they basically never considered it which was the answer cause he talked about other Turbo V6 in other vehicles. Also not really sure if the Coyote engine would fit in the bronco with out some major changes to the front engine bay. My only problem is that its not offered in 2 door version and only 4 door. All these Supposed High performance vehicles always on the more door version or longest versions of them. At least give us an option Manufactuer.

  • @dunhillsupramk3
    @dunhillsupramk3 2 года назад

    so things to note: "turbo thats unique to this vehicle", "fenders is SMC" (IE plastic), "unique tool to remove the running boards".... yup in 5-10yrs time this Bronco is going to be such a dream for any 2nd hand owner who buys it..

  • @johnnicpon5783
    @johnnicpon5783 2 года назад +2

    He did not answer the question. A V8 should be an option. Those who want the turbo, fine. Those who want a V8 should be able to order it that way.

  • @joshuamoore6299
    @joshuamoore6299 2 года назад +1

    For all of those that hate that there is not a v8 in the bronco have to understand weight distribution is the reason. Among other reasons like carbon credits

  • @skymaster9484
    @skymaster9484 2 года назад +1

    Should have put the V8 in it. I had the 2018 f150 with the coyote V8 in it, now I have a 2019 with the 3.5 eco boost and yes I love the eco boost and it is fast but. The V8 is right behind it where if you tuned it would probably surpass the eco boost. But when you get a vehicle like this or even a F150 that stock coyote V8 sound is like know other stock, but with aftermarket exhaust it's a head turner and makes you smile. No matter what you do with a eco boost it sounds like a some kind of motorcycle coming down the road. In my opinion if your spending this kind of money a mile or so per gallon if that between the eco boost and Coyote V8 is nothing, its all about the sound that beautiful rumble only a V8 can give you. that alone is worth half the price of the vehicle but I starting driving in the mid 70's so maybe that's just me.

  • @amazingjason455
    @amazingjason455 2 года назад

    Do the body braces fit on a 2 door? Is someone in the aftermarket making a similar product?

  • @doublebackagain4311
    @doublebackagain4311 2 года назад +1

    By adding a B-hoop (Bhoop?) it increases the structural rigidity 50% is that not admitting that not having a B-crossmember (in all the other Broncos) makes them less strong/safe?

  • @dor1tomcswagger69
    @dor1tomcswagger69 2 года назад +2

    Ford knows what customers want 😂 they say why a V8 when the TTv6 is just as good but then they come out with a V8 4 years later

  • @modlerjeancharles3287
    @modlerjeancharles3287 2 года назад +5

    This version of the bronco is by far my favorite off-roader of any vehicle ever made. Love this thing.fenders don’t bother me that much.

  • @Kingcold2002
    @Kingcold2002 2 года назад

    Does the bronco raptor have a brake control since it towing 4500 lbs ?

  • @js2407
    @js2407 2 года назад +9

    Am I the only one questioning some of them mentioned facts/design choices? The 3.0 has 50/30% reduction in losses... So is the run of the mill 3.0 a purpose built inferior setup or are the gains so minimal the percentage gain makes it sound better? Also replacing metal fenders with "composite" ones, way to cheap out while up selling on the product.

    • @jghall00
      @jghall00 2 года назад +3

      That's not what he said. He said they reduced existing losses by those percentages. That's not the same as having high losses before the changes. Like reducing loss from 6% to 4.5%.

  • @bendmacmanufacturing2744
    @bendmacmanufacturing2744 2 года назад +4

    I wonder if the 3.0 liter will hold up unlike the 2.7 which is failing prematurely on the bronco

    • @timschultes6467
      @timschultes6467 2 года назад +1

      It was a batch of bad ones not all 2.7’s are bad. Actually the 2.7 is a fantastic and reliable engine unfortunately ford had a small batch of bad ones that they installed in the highly anticipated bronco

    • @KN-jw7ts
      @KN-jw7ts 2 года назад

      Don’t try to make sense to ppl that wish and hope something sucks Bc they don’t have it. Jealous fools.

    • @AmericaFirstKorey
      @AmericaFirstKorey 2 года назад

      Not in the slightest, these engines will prove to be completely unreliable in the long run. We're in the infancy of small displacement, twin-turbo engines. This is a vehicle you trade-in once the warranty expires.

  • @BrianBourgeois-
    @BrianBourgeois- 2 года назад +12

    How would an engineer lead not know the body dimensions? When I finish a project I know it backwards and forwards, inside and out.

    • @blueman5924
      @blueman5924 2 года назад +1

      Because he’s responsible for the 14 inches of travel working properly ? Not the body panel design.

  • @outlandishworld6183
    @outlandishworld6183 2 года назад +1

    Those fenders look badass idc what anyone thinks just makes it look aggressive?

  • @keithexum7312
    @keithexum7312 2 года назад +2

    302 (V8) coyote for sure. With awesome exhaust.

  • @jdegid
    @jdegid 2 года назад

    how about a question on the tie rods issues have Does the raptor have different tie rods?

    • @KN-jw7ts
      @KN-jw7ts 2 года назад

      Yes. Different rods. Out of the f150 raptor

  • @jza80king
    @jza80king 2 года назад

    @2:18 just answer the damn question guy. Yes or no. This guy is like a politician, dodging questions left and right.

  • @quantumphaser
    @quantumphaser 2 года назад +2

    Bronco people wanted a V8 in this, trust me just like the Mustang people wanted the Mach E to actually look like a Mustang and not an SUV.

  • @erniesantana508
    @erniesantana508 2 года назад

    Can’t wait to get mine

  • @MrJohney
    @MrJohney 2 года назад

    it would be cool to see them have and option for the baby powerstroke

  • @donaldliverance2597
    @donaldliverance2597 2 года назад

    Can you still stick your hand right in under the soft top and unlock the doors or was that put in there for a reason

  • @dylanjury4886
    @dylanjury4886 2 года назад +5

    V8 swap

  • @goodolbronco
    @goodolbronco 2 года назад +6

    It’s cool but I still don’t trust the turbo power plant…a 5.0 would be way better IMO…

  • @stevewilcoxson7173
    @stevewilcoxson7173 2 года назад

    Awesome!

  • @mondo_stunts27
    @mondo_stunts27 2 года назад

    That was crazy how he avoided saying the fenders are plastic. He said something incredibly round about for how plastic parts are made.

  • @JM-nz8gw
    @JM-nz8gw 2 года назад +5

    He should've been honest - "we considered the V8 but the government tied our hands behind our backs with emissions"

  • @s0la.scr1ptura
    @s0la.scr1ptura 2 года назад

    Looks so much better without the circular fender flares.

  • @ColJonSquall1
    @ColJonSquall1 2 года назад +1

    Kinda seems like Ford just didn't want to invest in the credits from the EPA, to allow them to stuff the 5.0 or 5.2 Supercharged coyotes in the Bronco. So Aftermarket it is for many, lol.

  • @ashalghafri2955
    @ashalghafri2955 2 года назад +8

    Honestly it is shameful that the engine is in this random and ugly arrangement and at this price ford company must review the quality of manufacturing

  • @geoffmooregm
    @geoffmooregm 2 года назад +2

    When they put the 37's on did they increase the size of all the front and rear axle components? Does anyone know what axles/ring and pinion are in these things?

    • @speterbilt
      @speterbilt 2 года назад

      Did you not listen when Tommy asked this question?

    • @geoffmooregm
      @geoffmooregm 2 года назад

      @@speterbilt It only mentions the rear as being a Dana 50. Is the front different than the standard Bronco?

    • @speterbilt
      @speterbilt 2 года назад

      @@geoffmooregm that dude said the gearing I thought

    • @geoffmooregm
      @geoffmooregm 2 года назад

      @@speterbilt Yes gear ratio but that has little to do with strength. I did not hear gear size or axle shaft diameter. I can look up a D50 and get that info but can't find anything on the Front other than the fact it is also made by Dana. If it's locked with 37's I really hope they beefed it up.

    • @speterbilt
      @speterbilt 2 года назад

      @@geoffmooregm i thought he said the axle tubes and hoising is twice as thick as the regular Brinco

  • @donteadoss
    @donteadoss 2 года назад +2

    Phenomenal interview - dope job Tommy! 🔥

  • @doublebackagain4311
    @doublebackagain4311 2 года назад

    I must admit I do really like the hood, if it works like they say it does to release heat. The exit points are awfully close to the base of the windshield which is a pressure point, might be marketing fluff don't know-

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 2 года назад

      Could also just be that they are for slower speeds or stationary conditions just to allow any build up heat to escape and not heatsoak components. Or a combination of everything. Didn’t look too close to the base of the windshield either, being Ford I hope that their access to literally all the data they could want would help place those in the proper location for what they were trying to achieve.

  • @coryulferts6276
    @coryulferts6276 Год назад

    I love that they call it standard for 37s even though the starting price is 80 grand! I hope it would come with 37s 😣😂

  • @oldnite650
    @oldnite650 2 года назад

    Is this the engine from the explorer sT?

  • @johnr75
    @johnr75 2 года назад

    asked about V8 - continues to talk about the V6 - is that guy running for office :)