Hot hatch track battle: 2019 Ford Fiesta ST v Mini Cooper S v Toyota Yaris GRMN | Autocar
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2019
- Two questions, then: which is the fastest hot hatchback, and which is the most fun? Is it the latest and greatest Ford Fiesta ST, the funky little Toyota Yaris GRMN, or the Mini Cooper S? Subscribe now: smarturl.it/autocar
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Great to see a car review where its 3 cars actually racing side by side!!!! Instead of these lap time comparisons its so much more entertaining.
Bert Smith yes like best motoring in Japan!
People don't realise how important tyres are, it's the easiest/cheapest mod to do on a car. Just put michelins on your car and depending on what you had before, it can make a huge difference.
Muscles Brussels Michelin is a brand who makes many different types of tires.
Alan Bowers probably means something the like of pilot sports
Sorry but the Fiesta ST is in it's own class in terms of bang for your buck in this comparison. I can only speak for prices here in Austria but the base Fiesta ST (with "Performance Package") comes in at 25k €, a base Cooper S at 28k € and the Yaris GRMN at a whopping 33k €!!! (and that is the cheapest "used" example I could find on the market).
I guess Austria and Australia are two very different countries and use different currencies :)
The yaris will hold it's value better though
351HOON you are an idiot
Fiesta st now is 33k euros!!
Really like this video format. Throw the cars out for a 20 min track session and see what catches what. Brilliant
20 minutes of hard racing I suspect will set a few of them on fire. Brakes are hardly adequate in most of these 'hot hatches'. Fake vents leading the way of these.
Soooo unfair...! The Fiesta only has 3 cylinders....Oh, wait...
Ha ha nice one.
Putting the Mini on decent tires instead of the crappy runflats makes an enormous difference.
Also the S is not just a 'trim level' - it has an entirely different motor than the "justa" non-S, which is a 3 cylinder.
@@TheSoundzUK Only car here with independent rear suspension, aluminium lower arms at the front. It's a road car, not a track car however... interesting comparison though.
@@jamesbaggaley1460 The MINI is a track car as well as a street car. It's highly used in autocross with minimal upgrades with better tires and driver. It can run better times than 19.8 sec. let's face it these comparison test are aimed at making the Fiesta look great which I wouldn't take it even if it was free. If I've learned anything from wrenching. fords live and die in the shop...
Lemme guess with a name like JCW you're a Mini fan right?!? 😂😂😂
Lily Star exactly!!
Toyota GRMN ❗️❗️
Toyota please make more Gazoo Racing Performance cars. This is excellent and exactly what Toyota cars need. Gazoo Racing Camry, Supra and Corolla hot hatch. Toyota is getting back to its roots.
I love the GRMN too, but I'm not sure where you see it "out perform" the Fiesta. Keep in mind the Yaris is some 200lbs lighter than the ST and has more horsepower (though a good deal less torque).
It's the Bridgestone RE050As, they give up a bit too soon really.
No it's not.
Toyota is not going back it's roots... just look at the new "Supra". Toyota sports cars are dead.
Dustin Q lmfao your brain is what’s dead. This GRMN Yaris is a clear indication of what Toyota is going to do with future products. The Supra just dropped . In Japan they released the 6 speed track saloon. The Mr2 is coming back. Wake up dude
More of this pls, love it!
5:30 "the Cooper S is a trim level". Exactly. So where is the JCW? Or even an S on normal tyres? Also at the end saying the Mini was miles behind but there was a 2.1s gap 1st to 2nd and only a 1.1s gap 2nd to third. Considering the difference in tyre grip and rolling mass that's still a better result than the Yaris on sporty stuff.
On a small track the time difference is fairly big. Thing is the mini is from 2014 when the fiesta and yaris are almost brand new models so that makes a big difference aswell. They're all great cars but id still have the mini due to the b48, with just ecu remap it makes up to 300hp completely stock which would rival bigger fish like the a35 and s3 rather than these warm hatches.
Brilliant vid. More of the same please. Was great to see a track battle at the same time it really showed the differences in the cars and tyres
Does anybody know if this Fiesta ST was also fitted with the differential from the ‘performance pack?’ As in the Quaife ATB front diff.
Great video guys!
Great vid guys! Very disappointed that 2/3 of that group isn’t available in the US.
So this was a combo of a tyre review, the Fiesta ST’s Rev limiter, how crap the Mini is and yet again, how the Fiesta ST is going to decimate all.
Love the fiesta st looks
The music at the end nearly gave me a heart attack.
Great fun. Question begs... put them all on cup tyres? Then what?
Okay. From now on, this needs to be a thing. Three guys racing on a track and talking to each other and us about the dynamics and feel of the cars. This was surprisingly fun and I was only listening to it.
Ford fiesta ST it's a Beast
the mini is the slowest but i still like it...its beautiful
test drove a base Mini 3 cyl before buying the wagon. Had a blast
Bet it'd be even better with a tune, charge pipe upgrade and grippier tires
Did anyone else notice the dude in the fiesta hitting max rev more than once?
Hey Autocar! I have just watched your Lotus Emira vs Porsche Cayman review, and it blew my mind how profession your channel is!
It would be fantastic if you could review the Ford Fiesta ST against the Toyota GR86. On paper they may be a completely different sportcar, but the fact that they are both being crowned as the best entry level sportcar is very intriguing for me, in fact I am having a really tough time deciding on which one I should but!
I am sure this would make a very fascinating comparison, and I am begging you guys make it happen.
Fiesta st clearly the value for money.
Mini Cooper The most luxurious.
Yaris grmn the track weapon
Yaris grmn the track weapon - swallowed whole
Track weapon how you work that out...
yaris grmn overpriced limited not that good of a yaris
GRMN track weapon, but 2 seconds slower than the ST - You donut!!
@@andrewhogan4128 ITs not all about speed on a track as all of these cars are slow in comparison to other cars. But it is the most fun on track. IS that not obvious when Dan said the Fiesta is not that fun?
Aren't the MIchelin Pilot supersport being discontinued for Fiesta ST size? Guess they mount PS4 now, unfortunately
Is the Fiesta fitted with the LSD?
Fiesta clearly the quickest.
Fiesta cheapest
Fiesta fastest
Fiesta different league
Only thing I could see was the sawing action in the yaris, Is that driving style or car unpredictability? BTW one month today till I get my ST3 with performance pack.
I got a mk8 fiesta st and it's superb. The low down torque and pace it has is fantastic, such a smooth free revving engine too. I'm loving it.. absolute bargain in this day and age. Mountune now has a new remap out as well for less than £500. The car is going to be even quicker. Fast Ford's are back come on!!!!!
The Toyota sounds great.
Why not use the jcw?
Tom francis its not in the same price bracket
when was this filmed to wearing shorts!
Would be interesting to know what they would be like on a control tyre. They're only on for 15k after all.
More to it than tyres. Fiesta is the best car there by a distance.
JD depends on what type of tire you fit to the three. Some tires would benefit one car over another due to the type of characteristics the engineers imbued each car with. So that test would be an endless pursuit of finding the right tire for the right car. Better to just test what the manufacturer designed the car for.
@@ALMX5DP Cinturato Vs PSS? Characteristics don't come into it, they're in different leagues.
The Fiesta sounds GOOD.
Poor Mini is carrying the chubster ..bless it...no chance
Thats why its understeers too
I do like the GRMN, fair to say they are pretty rare; and I suppose it is nice to have the exclusivity. The mk7 & 8 ST have proven to be popular and good drivers too. I did really like my mk7 ST in the 4 years that I owned it. The MINI cooper S has just turned into a lardy and chunky BMW.
Was this at Blyton Park?
Blyton Park?
The fiesta guy revs a turbo engine to the limiter... :/
Love the Fiesta ST, I down graded to this from a Golf GTI because out of the box its great on Track, and it put all of it power down, and that is with a remap, which the GTI never did. But why I really went for the ST, was because of it's lightness.
Down grade?? I did the same... But didnt see as a downgrade, but different and more fun!!
Now I think about it, Down Grade is not the right word, upgrade sounds better.:)
I came out of a 2015 Mini JCW for a new mk8 ST ! Lost 34 hp but gained better handling and a better overall driving experience! Don’t even feel the need like loads of owners do to remap it, it’s enough poke and fun in stock 👍
Fiesta ST👍👍
These videos are ace man don't get me wrong but why do they all include the Toyota GRMN? They literally made like 200 units so it's unlikely that most of us will even see one 😂.
Should have put them all on the supersports for a worthwhile comparison. All this was just a test of tyres.
No it was a test of cars as they are delivered from the factory. There are a lot of variables with tires being a big one, but each was developed with that tire in mind.
@@ALMX5DP with the same tyres we we would have been able to determine which car was the most fun to drive. Mini and yaris did not show their full potential.
@@kona328WH and thats their own fault...why do they sell them with shitty tires?
@@kona328WH cars feel and react differently to different tires. While some would be faster, others may lose their balance or change the driving characteristics which may not be for the better. So it would not help in determining which is most fun anyway.
@@kona328WH if you're marketing a car as a performance or sporty variant, you should fit decent tyres! Ford does.
Bring the bloody toyota to cape Town. Please. Fun vid.👍
Shame they didn't get a Polo GTi. Not saying its faster but interesting to see how it would tho.
Probably last.
Most sure , the dullest
@@constantijnxenakis5357 and best all rounder
@@detective3728 I wouldn't take that for granted....
You guys, well, not just you guys, all automotive reviews channels should do this type of real time racing comparison challenge like the Japanese BEST Motoring does...
I wondered what Miles Jupp was up to nowadays.
I'd take the Yaris. My dad has one and it is so much fun to drive.
"Followed by some margin by the Mini" Nope, the margin between the Fiesta and the Yaris was bigger.
I think that they were referring to the ST and the Mini. Not the Yaris and the Mini.
Great review but PLEASE get rid of those radio beeps
Just put the same tyres on them all to make it fair otherwise it’s a pointless test
It's the role of the manufacturer to get the tyre choice right.
Love these videos produced by the best Motoring Journalists
Do a proper test. Same driver drives all 3 cars over 3 laps.
There is just to much driver difference on this.
Why not do this review with the same tyres on all 3 cars? 😑
Mini's made their choice, it's never about woulda, coulda, shoulda in a real would comparison. Ask BMW! But I get your point. Personally, most of my cars are modified:)
Yup I get your point too.
I would got for the Fiesta
If you are filming fast moving cars you better film and share it in 60fps otherwise it's a blurry mess. It is 2019 people...
Fastest super mini hot hatch is either the Audi S1 drag or JCW rolling!
WOW the 2 Matts are really bad.......
Check out what Dan is doing with Drive Nation on instagram
It's good to be the king! Says the Fiesta ST :-)
why is the MINI the biggest car there?
Toyota GRMN please
For once I don't blame not putting same tires in all since these are "affordable" vehicles.
The Yaris affordable lol it just does not like 33k worth of car,but looks fun.
I know what you mean but compared to reviews where you see a 720S vs Hurricane vs Porsche GT2 etc... Since they are on a track they might as well put the same tire compound for lap times on a circuit don't you think?@@teggsy2165
Fiesta ST once again reign supreme in its class
CAR通車臣 Yes But it was the tyres or it was the drivers to fat far to many excuses on here the fiesta won in a canter with ease.
Battle? I cant see battle here. Nowadays all reviews are boring, just find some of earlier Chris Harris reviews and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Good content ..... but the big lad in the mini and the old boy are so dull. Get better presenters please. Atleast the lad in the fiesta has some enthusiasm and knowledge.
Wheres the MINI JCW? Why is it always a Cooper S?
Because the JCW would wreck them all and they have to make the ford and Toyota look good Haha sad thing is you put a pro tune on it and you'll have just under 210hp and 220 tq
It's about the price bracket. JCW cost way more and would be compared accordingly with cars with the same price bracket in which it will lose out. JCW is overpriced.
You can get the JCW factory tune on an S for a few bucks more
@@lilystar5787 you can get the Mountune performance package for the Fiesta ST for a few bucks more as well. Adds HP and even some handling bits if you want which are factory warrantied by Ford. I'm pretty sure this costs way less than the JCW package too.
The new revo map on the fiesta st is apparently putting down 250-260bhp on a stage 1
I like the idea but please go and watch best motoring and just copy their format completely! Slowest car at the front and race for 5 laps with forward facing cameras! You will get so many views if you did!
So was this a tyre test or a car test?
Should all be on same rubber......
It's all about the driver
Reckon it’s down to the weight of the drivers.... 😜😜😜
Yaris Grmn all day long, Japanese🏯 reliability and performance.
The pilot off mini is too slowly.
Heaviest guy in heaviest car
Where is fiat NEW Abarth 595 Competizione, he should be here too :)
Marko Bozovic Even the mini would beat that.
@@cyborgxcyborgx i dont beleive. Even if they bring jcw, would be tough fight ;)
Fiesta is the king of this segment, it’s even better than some of the bigger more powerful hot hatckbacks
Meaningless if you were going to go on track you would get track tyres its a tyre test not a performance test.
If I could have one I would go for the mini still, btw i prefer 5door fiesta
I cannot understand why BMW fit those very poor runflats. This is what let’s it down in every road test, poor grip levels.
Get some PS4’s on them.
The margin ford to Toyota is bigger than Toyota to mini
So the conclusion is, as always, the Toyota is crap....
The ford driver is better ....pushing the car the hardest....basically has more balls than the Toyota and mini driver...
The Mini's a girls car, of course they'd put run flats on it. Shame they weren't all on the same tyres to really compare performance thou.
Surely put all three on same tyres..... Waste of time comparison
Ford built a Honda as good as Honda....nice
Yeah, that’s such a shame, for a car that was faster, handles better and is cheaper.... but then again I’m not a car snob, it beats everything else in its class.
👍👍
Please wear helmets!
Run flats,Jesus no wonder it can’t grip,stick pilot sports on It and stop moaning.
Who would buy the Yaris??
Ford, bitch! Love my FiST!
Dan Prosser is boring.
The Ferrari wins :)
are hot hatches still relevant?
Yes. Absolutely yes.
Hell yes
GURken more than you think
Yes but you’re not with daft comments like that.
Yaris FTW!!!
I don’t think you said “mechanical grip” enough times
I won't 'hit' that subscribe button because Matt Prior or whatever he's called. Too smug
Really just a tyre test then.
No the Yaris is £6000 more than the fiesta with the best tyres for that car I don’t think Toyota would deliberately fit inferior tyres to there top spec high performance vehicle.
The Gazoo racing is their performance arm much like M is to bmw or AMG is to merc or RS to ford so this is their top spec performance model
Designed and tuned at the Nurburgring with a Lotus tuned engine.
And still comprehensive beaten by a shopping trolley not even a RS model.
Lucky they don’t make an RS fiesta or it would have been 4 seconds faster...
@@cyborgxcyborgx top spec performance vehicle? What the hell are you on about. It's no Supra, not even a GT86. No way it has the best performing tyres, that's because these cars spend little time on the track in reality and mileage is obviously more important to Toyota.
TheAegisClaw ha ha ha nothing worse than a sore loser.
Ultimately yes. It's the only point of contact with the road. Poor grip equals poor performance.
So, you went to the Mini dealer and said: No, we don’t want the GP, as that one will kick ass to a Porsche. As the dealer then produced a JCW, you said, no, Ford will no longer sponsor this comparison, if we take that one. Well, the dealersaid, then all I have left is the womens sports car called S.....
Hot hatch videos are always so riddled with cliches they are hard to watch.
It's a sad day when the yaris is more pure toyota than the new (bmw) supra.