Damar was leading a small, desperate resistance cell. Here he was faced with the choice of losing 2 (or 3, if Rusot was going to kill Odo as well) members of that cell, or just 1. He already knew what he had to do. He was hesitating only because of his personal history with Rusot. Rusot's diatribe about wanting to return to the glory days of the empire - the same misguided sentiment that had got the Cardassians into bed with the Dominion in the first place - just made Damar's decision easier.
More than that, he most needed the Federation to over come the Breen weapon, otherwise his resistance would have no hope. So to abandon that mission, would be to abandon all hope.
@@epicstyle1000 True, he was loyal to Cardassia, and would happily have sacrificed Kira and Odo for it. But, in this case, that loyalty meant needing to get the Breen weapon.
@tombaker8481 No... many people don't care about the casting. Many people care about the intellectually stunted writing, the street gibberish dialogue, the generic often boring ship designs, and the nonsense plot lines. Those actors were cast just fine.
For you DS9 and B5 fans: Gul Rusot is played by actor John Vickery, who also played the character of Neroon on B5. I heard him and thought "hang on, I know that voice". Just connected those dots, after all these years!
Its more than likely that the Breen engineers beamed off the ship once their work was complete leaving just the Jem'hadar behind to operate the vessel.
Andrew Robinson is such a fantastic character actor. From the first Dirty Harry movie all the way to DS9. He really jumps into his acting with BOTH FEET.
Huh.. Just realized.. It was Breen in the engine compartment. Breen are in bio-suits.. So they wouldn't be affected by the gas deployed through the rest of the ship..
So did the Cardassians /Dominion not do sensor scans and can detect weapons fire on board a ship like Starfleet can or is them shooting people just so common it comes off as normal.
This was a intelligence ops, just like they had the gas, perhaps they were given a few other gizmos by starfleet intelligence, like a device to send fake sensor reading back.
Yeah didn't they notice she wasn't speaking the dominionese ? 😂😂😂😂😂 😊 The universal translators only help you understand what somebody's saying right? How do they actually translate what you're saying into the other language like this doesn't make sense
No.. no we wouldn't. Humans will never get to that point. They will never learn to get past their differences, never yearn to explore the stars, never learn to grow out of authoritarianism and totalitarianism. They can even seem to stop defending it and destroying other people to keep the "comfort" of it.
A very unrealistic part of this scene is Kira's plan to kill the Jem'Hadar and Breen by flooding the decks of the ship with neurazine gas. Why was the ship designed to allow the release of deadly gas in the first place? Oh silly me - it was done so Kira and her friends had a way of easily killing the ship's crew so they could steal the ship. Now why didn't I think of that? I guess I would never be a good writer for a science fiction TV show. I just don't have the imagination to think of such highly unrealistic scenarios.
That's not a design or plot error, its a space station, ship so has a life support system so gas mixtures and medication would be able to be changed, or altered (Plus you know this is not real life?)
@robba1234 Why would it be designed to allow the release of deadly gas? And why would they have such deadly gas on the ship in the first place? If human engineers designed a building like that and its inhabitants were killed by a release of deadly gas the engineers would be charged with manslaughter. I am well aware it is not real life. That is not the point. It is still supposed to reasonably realistic. Otherwise the writers could have the good guys defeating the bad guys in the most unrealistic ways imaginable. For instance Kira and her team could have directly engaged the Breen and Jem'Hadar with phasers everywhere on the ship and somehow miraculously defeat them all with no harm to Kira's team. Or the omnipotent being Q from TNG could magically appear to get rid of the Breen and Jem'Hadar for them (or Q could even win the war for them with a snap of his fingers). And why not have Q appear to solve every problem they encounter during the entiire series? It would get pretty boring after a while and nobody would want to watch it. A TV show or movie has to be at least reasonably realistic or viewers will find it boring and lose interest.
@@brucea9871 In other episodes of Star Trek we have seen the release of gas into the environmental system used as a security measure. It seems that the command staff on the bridge can order the computer to release gas into a section of the ship that has been taken over to disable or even kill the intruders.
It was good that they knew what Luwaren sounded like, her diction, before she was killed.
All solids sound the same anyway
@@roopot
"His Cardassia is dead. It won't be coming back." Based quote
How is being a race traitor based?
@@antiWhiteism777 follow your leader, yahtZee
Damar was leading a small, desperate resistance cell. Here he was faced with the choice of losing 2 (or 3, if Rusot was going to kill Odo as well) members of that cell, or just 1.
He already knew what he had to do. He was hesitating only because of his personal history with Rusot.
Rusot's diatribe about wanting to return to the glory days of the empire - the same misguided sentiment that had got the Cardassians into bed with the Dominion in the first place - just made Damar's decision easier.
More than that, he most needed the Federation to over come the Breen weapon, otherwise his resistance would have no hope. So to abandon that mission, would be to abandon all hope.
I love how garek is loyal to his friends.
And whoa upon his enemies.
Garek: @user-ex2xh5og8v how little you know me
@@epicstyle1000 True, he was loyal to Cardassia, and would happily have sacrificed Kira and Odo for it. But, in this case, that loyalty meant needing to get the Breen weapon.
“Just aim and fire.” [gets shot]
This has some strong “I can see you attack your enemy and strike true” vibes. 😂
This show still holds up, and better than the most recent show Discovery.
Pfft...what I just flushed down the toilet holds up better than Discovery.
Discovery isn’t really Star Trek at all. Just woke garbage that CBS and Paramount tried to shove down our throats.
Discovery is fine...many of you folks just don't like the "casting"
@tombaker8481 No... many people don't care about the casting. Many people care about the intellectually stunted writing, the street gibberish dialogue, the generic often boring ship designs, and the nonsense plot lines.
Those actors were cast just fine.
@@tombaker8481Exactly, Discovery is fine as it is. ❤
Damar had one of the best character arcs in all of DS9. It was second only to perhaps Worf.
his character evolved over time from bad guy to good guy, martyred for his people's liberation.
Damar's death was a gut-wrencher and considering where he started - that's some good acting.
Nope. Nog has the best arc.
@@chimaican01 Within DS9, I agree Nog is up there. But across the various series, I think Worf is tops.
This was peak Star Trek
For you DS9 and B5 fans: Gul Rusot is played by actor John Vickery, who also played the character of Neroon on B5.
I heard him and thought "hang on, I know that voice". Just connected those dots, after all these years!
I did exactly the same thing just before I saw your comment confirming it
Yup. Although I still think that Andreas Katsulas had the best cross over between universes, with G'Kar, and Tamalak.
Thank you, he looked and sounded familure. Vickery played so many parts on Babylon 5, it was great to see him here.
The Vorta was played by Kitty Swink who is the real life Mrs. Quark.
Swink but yeap
Thanks!!!
@@bjornjosephgoddamn autocorrect 😂
thats my favorite Garek scene of all time.
Sooooo many!
I love Garek, hes a cold hearted bastard, but hes OUR cold hearted bastard XD
So, how is some neurazine going to affect the Breen? Last time I checked they were wearing spacesuits all the time.
Its more than likely that the Breen engineers beamed off the ship once their work was complete leaving just the Jem'hadar behind to operate the vessel.
@@zeberto1986 Damn you, zeberto! How dare you be better at the Star Trek Universe than me!
Neal breen also made a sci-fi weapon? Man, that guy is very talented!!!
Andrew Robinson is such a fantastic character actor. From the first Dirty Harry movie all the way to DS9. He really jumps into his acting with BOTH FEET.
Huh.. Just realized.. It was Breen in the engine compartment. Breen are in bio-suits.. So they wouldn't be affected by the gas deployed through the rest of the ship..
Back when they made decent science fiction.
Damar hás one of the best story arc of TV
It all came down to Damar 🥰
" ...and won't be coming back..." ...and then that STARE between them....EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why didn't Odo just shapeshift to look like the Vorta?
"Keep..."
Rusot is Neroon from Babylon 5
So did the Cardassians /Dominion not do sensor scans and can detect weapons fire on board a ship like Starfleet can or is them shooting people just so common it comes off as normal.
This was a intelligence ops, just like they had the gas, perhaps they were given a few other gizmos by starfleet intelligence, like a device to send fake sensor reading back.
Neroon certainly liked to hop Sci Fi shows.
"You talk like a Mimbari"
Breen weapon
Yeah didn't they notice she wasn't speaking the dominionese ? 😂😂😂😂😂
😊 The universal translators only help you understand what somebody's saying right? How do they actually translate what you're saying into the other language like this doesn't make sense
No, they make the person sound they are speaking your language.
If people learned as much about the real world as they learn about this junk, we'd be living like Star Trek.
It is visionaries like this that get us there.
star trek sets good ethical and moral examples for people. at least DS9 did.
JUNK?!?! But your point is true if expressed less than tactfully.
No.. no we wouldn't. Humans will never get to that point. They will never learn to get past their differences, never yearn to explore the stars, never learn to grow out of authoritarianism and totalitarianism. They can even seem to stop defending it and destroying other people to keep the "comfort" of it.
A shame the warp effect was so poor, no rubber band stretch here.
But it was like 2 eps before the finale so i guess they wanted an easy life lol
Money, they were completely out of money by this stage of the series. That why the final was most stock footage and stock SFX.
A very unrealistic part of this scene is Kira's plan to kill the Jem'Hadar and Breen by flooding the decks of the ship with neurazine gas. Why was the ship designed to allow the release of deadly gas in the first place? Oh silly me - it was done so Kira and her friends had a way of easily killing the ship's crew so they could steal the ship. Now why didn't I think of that? I guess I would never be a good writer for a science fiction TV show. I just don't have the imagination to think of such highly unrealistic scenarios.
It wasn't designed for that. And that was far from the only time it was done in the series.
That's not a design or plot error, its a space station, ship so has a life support system so gas mixtures and medication would be able to be changed, or altered (Plus you know this is not real life?)
@robba1234 Why would it be designed to allow the release of deadly gas? And why would they have such deadly gas on the ship in the first place? If human engineers designed a building like that and its inhabitants were killed by a release of deadly gas the engineers would be charged with manslaughter. I am well aware it is not real life. That is not the point. It is still supposed to reasonably realistic. Otherwise the writers could have the good guys defeating the bad guys in the most unrealistic ways imaginable. For instance Kira and her team could have directly engaged the Breen and Jem'Hadar with phasers everywhere on the ship and somehow miraculously defeat them all with no harm to Kira's team. Or the omnipotent being Q from TNG could magically appear to get rid of the Breen and Jem'Hadar for them (or Q could even win the war for them with a snap of his fingers). And why not have Q appear to solve every problem they encounter during the entiire series? It would get pretty boring after a while and nobody would want to watch it. A TV show or movie has to be at least reasonably realistic or viewers will find it boring and lose interest.
@@brucea9871 But they do design submarines like that, I'm sure it wouldn't be impossible to add a extra gas to be circulated in a submarine.
@@brucea9871 In other episodes of Star Trek we have seen the release of gas into the environmental system used as a security measure. It seems that the command staff on the bridge can order the computer to release gas into a section of the ship that has been taken over to disable or even kill the intruders.