McCoy - "you really cared for her didn't you?" Kirk addresses the helm, ignoring Bones, but swiftly glances his way. McCoy responds "That's an answer!" And leaves the bridge as Kirk's head sadly bows down! Great scene!
No, sorry. It was a good idea, but it falls apart when you analyze it. They had a picture and an audio recording. Even if all the witnesses had been killed, that would have been enough to identify and convict.
@@sandal_thong8631 Yes, the two pictures looked similar, however the audio analyzer could not verify they were exact, so Kirk had to give the benefit of the doubt, even though he did feel that he was Kodos. Besides you are speaking abou the story, while I was commenting on the writing, two different things. Think of movies with plot holes, yet still had brilliant writing.
Sorry, it was a good idea, but implemented poorly. It was supposed to be that 9 children were witnesses who could identify him. Then we find there's an audio recording and picture, so their testimony wasn't needed, and such testimony wouldn't have been convincing anyway.
@@jonathansoko1085 please, don't make jokes about a disease common in millions of people (varicella /herpes zóster) that creates painful states of infection in the trigeminal nerve in adult people just because they tends avoid to seek treatment due the believing it's a STD and it's simply a coming back of what all we had as kids.
@@eternafuentedeluzdivina3189 It's common herpes simplex labialis. Commonly known as a COLD SORE. Very very common, don't know why this person is making such a big deal over it. It may or may not have been sexually transmitted, and if I had to bet, NOT sexually transmitted. She was age 20 going on 21 when the episode was filmed. If I had to bet, it was more likely non-sexually transmitted by personal (non-sexual) contact when she was a little girl. But who knows. And yes, Star Trek was low budget in 1966, bet they could have done a better job concealing if they had a bigger budget in the makeup department.
2:14- LENORE: (as Kirk takes the phaser from her, cradling her father) "Father. FATHER!!!!! O, proud, death!!!!!! What feast is toward in thine eternal cell, that thou, such a prince at a shot so bloodily hast struck?? The curtain, the curtain rises!!!! IT RISES!!!!!!!!! There's no time to SLEEP!!!!! The play. THE PLAY!!! The play's the thing, wherein we'll catch the conscience of the king........." (she wails and moans, quite insane)
Obviously Lenore knew how to use a phaser since she knew how to set it on overload and use it as an explosive to attempt to murder Kirk. She probably learned how to use it by dating another Starfleet Officer and using it to kill that Starfleet Officer.
I always hate it when the woman holding the weapon says, "I know how to use this." You just know you are seconds away from her killing the wrong person.
@@philosopherscribe39 Can you imagine the two of them as a couple and if Charlie gave her powers like his own? THAT would be scary and they'd wipe out entire planets and star systems by themselves!
The phaser's sound is so much like microphone feedback loop heavily oversaturated recording on magnetic tape. Which is hardly suprising because that's exactly what it is.
When she said 'I know how to use this captain!', you could hear and feel the hatred and anger in her voice. At that moment, she hated Kirk with every fibre in her being for busting her father, for being a witness to his crimes and for denying her father his last performance. She was truly chillingly scary for her insanity and her hatred, the actress who played her was truly skilled.
Boy, did Dr. Moss EVER rock the CBS Radio Mystery Theatre (in a near decade's worth of guest appearances). Father to the man who wrote the Sesame Street song "Rubber ducky".
I once wrote some “Batman ‘66” fan fiction about The Joker introducing Harley Quinn to that universe and wrote Harley with Barbara Anderson in mind. She played one psychotic blond in the ‘60’s. I figured she could play another.
Kodos did some horrible things yes, but in the end he stepped into a phaser beam and he caught one for someone else. Maybe it doesn’t undo all those deaths, but it does prove that he did care about people and killing those people wasn’t his intention originally
The red shirt was pretty useless and you'd think that for security, they should have their phaser in some kind of attachment so it can't be easily yanked off by a complete stranger. When I was a kid, this story bored me to death. So many other more compelling episodes. But years later, I'm less harsh towards it. I like the Shakespearian influence.
No it boils down ro TOS in general. I know you trek nerds like to to live in a fantasy land where its the best thing ever, but theres problems all over the place in writing, plot holes and just poor decisions made in the show. So much laziness.
@@jonathansoko1085 The original series ruled. There was nothing wrong with it. Go crawl back into your cardboard box and continue watching Discovery you pathetic troll.
A mass murderer trying to go incognito... by becoming a famous Shakespearean actor. That's like Hannibal Lecter trying to go underground by becoming the curator of a famous Italian museum in that "Hannibal" movie.
When I saw this as a 10 year old kid, it looked like a perfectly fine scene. Now, in my 50s, I look at the ineptitude of the guard when he has his phaser stolen. He didn't even respond. Lame.
It's called Dramatic License, or plot convenience. The same reason every planet they beam down to has a breathable atmosphere at safe pressure and 1-G gravity.
But, at the end, the trained Lenore returns to "Hamlet", Act V, scene 2; at the end, Fortinbras questions the demise of so many characters at once. O proud death, What feast is toward in thine eternal cell, That thou so many princes at a shot So bloodily hast, struck?
The involvement of Gene Roddenberry with the 1960s program would have had something to do with which actresses were chosen. Roddenberry's history with women was not savory. As for Kirk, aside from the behavior of his evil doppelganger from the transporter accident, has Kirk actually done anything to merit a sexual harrassment suit? What he gets up to when on shore leave we aren't told, but on board his ship and at official functions, he always behaves like a gentleman as far as I can recall. Of course, I'm not one of those people who have seen every episode of TOS dozens of times -- but still, if he had taken advantage of a woman, I think I would remember it.
@@nickmarsala3787 It's been pretty well documented by now that Roddenberry was a sex addict, that he demanded sexual favors of actresses who guest-starred on Star Trek; that he had affairs with two of the regular cast members and was keeping one of them while he was still married; that after the death of Grace Lee Whitney, her husband revealed that Roddenberry had been the man who had attacked her. You'll have to do your own research if you want to follow this up; it hasn't been of particular interest to me, so I haven't noted sources. However, if you want to go into this, here is a link to start you off, an interesting account of the early days of Star Trek by one of its producers which includes an account of Roddenberry (whom the producer liked, by the way). ruclips.net/video/Y71QWWEJQ0w/видео.html
This episode was always so underwhelming for me. It's like Kirk doesn't even care what this guy did. I understand the whole "I've got to be sure before I accuse a man of that." But after that Kirk should have acted more sternly. Also Kodos's daughter was so weird, like they didn't know what to do so they just threw her in from left field and made her 'crazy'.
One of my favorite films is "Julius Caesar" (1953), staring Marlon Brando. If you have not seen it, I highly recommend it. It is amazing in my opinion! It is one of the best movies I have watched thus far, based on Shakespeare's plays. The others are "Hamlet" (1996) and "The Merchant of Venice" (2005).
Many times people are killed by phasers without vaporization. Probably just an effects budget thing. Even as far forward as Klingons dying in Ds9 from phaser shots.
Phasers are the most versatile weapons/tools in science fiction. They have multiple intensities, frequencies, and dispersal patterns. It's inaccurate to state there's only stun and vaporize.
@@williamhaynes4800 Ok you're right. The drinking age is 21 in this century but in the 23rd Century who knows? Those laws might have changed by then. I would assume the legal dating age by that century is still 18 as Kirk fell in love with Lenore and she was 19. As for drinking age, who knows?
Barbara Anderson is just hilarious in this OTT performance . The Enterprise didn't needf to resupply on bacon for the rest of the five year mission after this.
Did y'all not watch the episode? In the situation he was in, he could either have let all 8,000 die a slow painful death, or cull 4,000 to save the other 4,000. Save half the people, or save none?
@@millefune You are the captain of an airliner. There is a serious fuel leak and you are running low on fuel. You are flying over the Pacific several hundred miles from the nearest airport. You need to reduce weight to save fuel. First, you fly low enough to have the passengers and crew throw out everything the can be discarded but it is not enough. You calculate that you need to reduce the plane's weight by 30,000 pounds in order to make it to the nearest airport. 30,000 pounds is half of your passengers. What do you do? There is no guarantee that you would survive ditching the plane but can you really order anyone to jump off? Either everyone lives or everyone dies... the only other alternative is to ask for volunteers.
Maybe deliberate that the daughter is blonde-haired and blue-eyed, with a Germanic hairstyle, defending her father's record, that he shouldn't be apologetic. This is not the attitude of all the children of Nazis post=Wrar, but many of them.
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McCoy - "you really cared for her didn't you?" Kirk addresses the helm, ignoring Bones, but swiftly glances his way. McCoy responds "That's an answer!" And leaves the bridge as Kirk's head sadly bows down! Great scene!
She can flash crazy eyes like a pro.
xxlCortez oh shes gorgeous
@@georgemarsilio5122 Did you also see the herpes on her upper lip that they did a poor job covering>?
She did win an Emmy for her work on Ironsides.
@@jonathansoko1085 Those kinds of details are why I love watching Trek a few times over, Hawkeye lol
She was a Blonde
(Enough said)
One of the best episodes and a well written script.
Agreed. When I was a kid, I didn't like this episode. Of course as I became an adult, I came to appreciate how great this episode is.
No, sorry. It was a good idea, but it falls apart when you analyze it. They had a picture and an audio recording. Even if all the witnesses had been killed, that would have been enough to identify and convict.
@@sandal_thong8631 Yes, the two pictures looked similar, however the audio analyzer could not verify they were exact, so Kirk had to give the benefit of the doubt, even though he did feel that he was Kodos. Besides you are speaking abou the story, while I was commenting on the writing, two different things. Think of movies with plot holes, yet still had brilliant writing.
This episode has an 'Alfred Hitchcock Hour' feel to it - a dramatic mystery with a twist at the end.
This is the deepest moment in Kirk's back story.
One of the best TOS episodes. Arnold Moss' performance was really unsettling.
The scene of Kirk confronting Karidian is one of the best of the whole series.
Arnold Moss is amazing.
Sorry, it was a good idea, but implemented poorly. It was supposed to be that 9 children were witnesses who could identify him. Then we find there's an audio recording and picture, so their testimony wasn't needed, and such testimony wouldn't have been convincing anyway.
This episode's Shakespearean-like tragedy makes it one of the smarter, if underappreciated, TOS episodes.
Excellent episode, first season, Conscience Of The King. Loved it.
Miz Anderson crushes it. But view this episode in its entirety and pay attention to the touch of a superb director, Gerd Oswald.
Shes also got herpes, they did a poor job covering it LMAO
@@jonathansoko1085 please, don't make jokes about a disease common in millions of people (varicella /herpes zóster) that creates painful states of infection in the trigeminal nerve in adult people just because they tends avoid to seek treatment due the believing it's a STD and it's simply a coming back of what all we had as kids.
@@eternafuentedeluzdivina3189 It's common herpes simplex labialis. Commonly known as a COLD SORE. Very very common, don't know why this person is making such a big deal over it. It may or may not have been sexually transmitted, and if I had to bet, NOT sexually transmitted. She was age 20 going on 21 when the episode was filmed. If I had to bet, it was more likely non-sexually transmitted by personal (non-sexual) contact when she was a little girl. But who knows. And yes, Star Trek was low budget in 1966, bet they could have done a better job concealing if they had a bigger budget in the makeup department.
But where you watching full anymore they I do protest
2:14-
LENORE: (as Kirk takes the phaser from her, cradling her father) "Father. FATHER!!!!! O, proud, death!!!!!! What feast is toward in thine eternal cell, that thou, such a prince at a shot so bloodily hast struck?? The curtain, the curtain rises!!!! IT RISES!!!!!!!!! There's no time to SLEEP!!!!! The play. THE PLAY!!! The play's the thing, wherein we'll catch the conscience of the king........." (she wails and moans, quite insane)
Notice how she shows her true accent when she says "I know how to use this Captain"
Yeah, I did. She also sounded quite angry at Kirk as he busted her father and was going to arrest him for his past crimes.
Obviously Lenore knew how to use a phaser since she knew how to set it on overload and use it as an explosive to attempt to murder Kirk. She probably learned how to use it by dating another Starfleet Officer and using it to kill that Starfleet Officer.
@@johnnybravado7141it would be impossible to catch anyone off guard with that unbelievably loud phaser in "overload".......lol.....good episode tho!
The blood thins
The body fails
And finally one is grateful for a failing memory
Excellent episode. So well acted.
Every ten minutes on the original series someone was going insane.
Well, you try going into space on a five-year mission...see if you don't lose it.
That's why we had Dr. McCoy with SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssssssssssssss
And that's different from today in what way?
Mostly the viewers.
He's dead, Jim!
I always hate it when the woman holding the weapon says, "I know how to use this." You just know you are seconds away from her killing the wrong person.
she might be the scariest character of the whole first three seasons.
True, though I thought Charlie X was pretty scary too.
There were a total of only three seasons.
original series, yes. @@jamesarnette1394
@@philosopherscribe39 Can you imagine the two of them as a couple and if Charlie gave her powers like his own? THAT would be scary and they'd wipe out entire planets and star systems by themselves!
2:07 I love those ultra slow-moving phaser light beams.
Shame things ended the way they did. Lenore could’ve made a great Ophelia.
I had forgotten how this episode ended....so thanks for putting it up...
He missed his cue by split seconds. His death grimace started before the phaser hit him. Oops.
He was an actor to the end. He must have a great death grimace and can't rely on his performance after death!
Yea.
I was just thinking, this scene could be minorly re-edited much better. Just very little, frame level, timing adjustments...
I'm pretty sure viewers in 1966 hardly even noticed this.....
Anton looks like Captain Peacock from "Are You Being Served" 🇬🇧
Truly of the yard
Yes but shorter. 😸
They need weapon retention training in Starfleet.
Nah. German shepherds. 🐕
and weapon retention holsters
The phaser's sound is so much like microphone feedback loop heavily oversaturated recording on magnetic tape. Which is hardly suprising because that's exactly what it is.
By Grabthar's Hammer - what a performance
By the sons of Warvan - you remembered!
When she said 'I know how to use this captain!', you could hear and feel the hatred and anger in her voice. At that moment, she hated Kirk with every fibre in her being for busting her father, for being a witness to his crimes and for denying her father his last performance.
She was truly chillingly scary for her insanity and her hatred, the actress who played her was truly skilled.
The red light bulbs @1:39 is a hoot. Glad to see there is still a market for incandescent light bulbs in the 23rd Century.
One can but hope.
Hey, that's Barbara Anderson. She would go on to costar in "Ironside" as officer Eve Whitfield.
And as Mimi in _Mission: Impossible_ .
and as nurse Jean Manners in the Six Million Dollar Man pilot film.
My Dad thought this was one of the best episodes!
one of my favorite actors...Arnold Moss.
Boy, did Dr. Moss EVER rock the CBS Radio Mystery Theatre (in a near decade's worth of guest appearances). Father to the man who wrote the Sesame Street song "Rubber ducky".
@@ATamandua He was a great radio actor, and also a writer.
I once wrote some “Batman ‘66” fan fiction about The Joker introducing Harley Quinn to that universe and wrote Harley with Barbara Anderson in mind. She played one psychotic blond in the ‘60’s. I figured she could play another.
This scene was beautifully acted even for being like 50 years ago
Kodos did some horrible things yes, but in the end he stepped into a phaser beam and he caught one for someone else. Maybe it doesn’t undo all those deaths, but it does prove that he did care about people and killing those people wasn’t his intention originally
Stark Trek security looking as competent as ever.
Yeah Tony Stark should be able to afford better.
Yes. "Starfleet Security". This is why they make such great "redshirts".
So msybe it isn’t Kirk’s fault they kept dying on away teams…
@@MrBiggles53 Redshirt Squad: The few, the proud, the totally expendable
not just security, Well trained Starfleet crew screams like ninnies when chick w/phaser backs towards them.
Kodos is proof that logic can fail. Hard.
Logic is the beginning of knowledge not the end.
The red shirt was pretty useless and you'd think that for security, they should have their phaser in some kind of attachment so it can't be easily yanked off by a complete stranger. When I was a kid, this story bored me to death. So many other more compelling episodes. But years later, I'm less harsh towards it. I like the Shakespearian influence.
No it boils down ro TOS in general. I know you trek nerds like to to live in a fantasy land where its the best thing ever, but theres problems all over the place in writing, plot holes and just poor decisions made in the show. So much laziness.
@@jonathansoko1085 The original series ruled. There was nothing wrong with it. Go crawl back into your cardboard box and continue watching Discovery you pathetic troll.
Indeed Beware of of the Ides of March
Hamlet:
I'll have grounds
More relative than this-the play's the thing
Wherein I'll catch the conscience of the King
hambone31000 -- So, it's not just me. There really something Shakespearean about this scene. Fascinating.
A mass murderer trying to go incognito... by becoming a famous Shakespearean actor. That's like Hannibal Lecter trying to go underground by becoming the curator of a famous Italian museum in that "Hannibal" movie.
When I saw this as a 10 year old kid, it looked like a perfectly fine scene. Now, in my 50s, I look at the ineptitude of the guard when he has his phaser stolen. He didn't even respond.
Lame.
What's even more of a shame is that as far as red shirts go, the guy's pretty competent.
He did respond, watch it closely.
Its just POOR TOS writing and decision making.
Arnold Moss (Karidian) and Barbara Anderson (Lenore) did an excellent job in this episode!
Kodos was something like Pol Pot.
He certainly inspired Thanos
How is it I have never seen this? They must not have run it on channel 11 WPIX on Sunday afternoons in the early 80s.
It is one of those openings that don't look like Star Trek. "Devil in the Dark" doesn't start with the enterprise or its crew either.
They did, just not as often as other episodes 🤷🏻♂️
I just realized they were performing in the engines room.
Bones, does the carpet match the blonde drapes? 👀
Tell Disney didn't rip this idea off for its Adventures Infinity War movie.
Star trek didn't come up with the idea of genociding ppl to preserve resources.
She was extremely scary and convincing😮!!!
Given the same circumstances would you all have made the same decision?
Absolutely not.
wait, why didnt he get vaporized? and how come it was set to kill?. did all phasers default to the kill setting? or did that security guard screw up?
Lenore said "I know how to use this, Captain!" She may have adjusted the settings herself...you know, while the camera was pointed elsewhere...😉
Yeah I often wondered why they even need a vaporize setting if they can kill so easily on the high end.
It's called Dramatic License, or plot convenience. The same reason every planet they beam down to has a breathable atmosphere at safe pressure and 1-G gravity.
But, at the end, the trained Lenore returns to "Hamlet", Act V, scene 2; at the end, Fortinbras questions the demise of so many characters at once.
O proud death,
What feast is toward in thine eternal cell,
That thou so many princes at a shot
So bloodily hast, struck?
Has anyone ever noticed how on the original Star Trek the women were so hot? You don't see that so much in the ones that came after. Why is that?
Come o-o-on. . .! Seven. Of. Nine?? I've never seen a more boringly matter-of-fact woman in all my life! IF she even was a human-type 'woman'.
rules against the casting couch? :)
The involvement of Gene Roddenberry with the 1960s program would have had something to do with which actresses were chosen. Roddenberry's history with women was not savory.
As for Kirk, aside from the behavior of his evil doppelganger from the transporter accident, has Kirk actually done anything to merit a sexual harrassment suit? What he gets up to when on shore leave we aren't told, but on board his ship and at official functions, he always behaves like a gentleman as far as I can recall.
Of course, I'm not one of those people who have seen every episode of TOS dozens of times -- but still, if he had taken advantage of a woman, I think I would remember it.
@@kitcat7538 What do you mean not savory?
@@nickmarsala3787 It's been pretty well documented by now that Roddenberry was a sex addict, that he demanded sexual favors of actresses who guest-starred on Star Trek; that he had affairs with two of the regular cast members and was keeping one of them while he was still married; that after the death of Grace Lee Whitney, her husband revealed that Roddenberry had been the man who had attacked her. You'll have to do your own research if you want to follow this up; it hasn't been of particular interest to me, so I haven't noted sources. However, if you want to go into this, here is a link to start you off, an interesting account of the early days of Star Trek by one of its producers which includes an account of Roddenberry (whom the producer liked, by the way).
ruclips.net/video/Y71QWWEJQ0w/видео.html
This episode was always so underwhelming for me. It's like Kirk doesn't even care what this guy did. I understand the whole "I've got to be sure before I accuse a man of that." But after that Kirk should have acted more sternly. Also Kodos's daughter was so weird, like they didn't know what to do so they just threw her in from left field and made her 'crazy'.
Arnold Moss was a noted Shakespearean actor.
Beware the Eyes of the March!
Ides of March ;)
You mean Beware the Crazy Eyes of Lenore when they threaten to let you live Nevermore
One of my favorite films is "Julius Caesar" (1953), staring Marlon Brando. If you have not seen it, I highly recommend it. It is amazing in my opinion! It is one of the best movies I have watched thus far, based on Shakespeare's plays. The others are "Hamlet" (1996) and "The Merchant of Venice" (2005).
Brilliant.
Karidian the OG Thanos.
She played in the 6 million dollar man. Pilot episode.
nurse?
Barbara Anderson was also Eve Whitfield in "Ironside".
That's like a woman saying, "I know how to parallel park."
That shot shouldn't have killed him. The Phaser could not have been set to kill. If it had been set to kill, it would have disintegrated him.
Mid-power range disrupt setting...
@@charlestaylor253 I haven't heard of that phaser setting before.
Many times people are killed by phasers without vaporization. Probably just an effects budget thing. Even as far forward as Klingons dying in Ds9 from phaser shots.
Phasers are the most versatile weapons/tools in science fiction. They have multiple intensities, frequencies, and dispersal patterns. It's inaccurate to state there's only stun and vaporize.
Someone needs to give a course in weapon security to the red shirts.
Fear a woman who worships her father with the stainlessness and perfection of a god, for if he was dangerous, what makes her?
Lenore recovered, changed her name, and became a police detective in San Francisco lol
and when that ended, she became a nurse that briefly dated Steve Austin while helping him to adjust to his new bionic limbs. lol
That actress does good crazy! 😵💫
The troupe had been performing "Hamlet", but the mentally-ill Lenore lapses into "Julius Caesar" and, perhaps, "Macbeth".
as i fell pity for him as well
Kirk likes them Crazy too !
Great job by that redshirt, letting her grab his phaser. Would've been a better scene if she'd shot the redshirt with his own phaser.
As a kid, this episode was too artsy.
Now, i like the premise, but how they chew the scenery. So unfortunate.
I used to work with a woman who looked exactly like her. But she had sane eyes.
Jim, Karidian is a Klingon!
She has a cold sore......
What are you trying to say with that?
@@nickmarsala3787 She has herpes, its obvious, they did a poor cover job LOL
Amazing episode and it still affects. No more Coco Puffs for breakfast for her though. She plenty cuckoo!
Did Kirk give a minor girl an alcoholic beverage?
She was 19 so she wasn't a minor.
@@samcrubish1336
Drinking age is 21, ain't it?
@@williamhaynes4800 Ok you're right. The drinking age is 21 in this century but in the 23rd Century who knows? Those laws might have changed by then. I would assume the legal dating age by that century is still 18 as Kirk fell in love with Lenore and she was 19. As for drinking age, who knows?
Agreed, it may even be a moot point by then.
@@williamhaynes4800 the drinking age isn't even 21 in all parts of America. In Puerto Rico the drinking age is 18
Shes soooooo crazzzzzy!! 😄😄
She sounds genuinely Scottish to me towards the end
Shakespearean tragedy v_v ^_^
Kenneka Jenkins
😂😂😂😂
I dated a girl like that once...Once!!
Ewww cold sore.
It happens sadly, I guess they hadn't developed a cure for them even in the 23rd century.
She has nice eyes.
Reminds me of my ex girlfriend…a number of them, actually.
yes good scene ruined by that silly sound
Barbara Anderson is just hilarious in this OTT performance . The Enterprise didn't needf to resupply on bacon for the rest of the five year mission after this.
she hammed it up for sure, shes also got herpes on her upper lip
I think you need a resupply of face slappings so you'll learn to shut your mouth.
What is OTT?
@@jonathansoko1085”Over the top.”
Kodos did nothing wrong.
That's what all war criminals say.
kodos did 4000 things wrong
@@jonathansoko1085 What's wrong is that you weren't one of those 4000.
Did y'all not watch the episode? In the situation he was in, he could either have let all 8,000 die a slow painful death, or cull 4,000 to save the other 4,000. Save half the people, or save none?
@@millefune You are the captain of an airliner. There is a serious fuel leak and you are running low on fuel. You are flying over the Pacific several hundred miles from the nearest airport. You need to reduce weight to save fuel. First, you fly low enough to have the passengers and crew throw out everything the can be discarded but it is not enough. You calculate that you need to reduce the plane's weight by 30,000 pounds in order to make it to the nearest airport. 30,000 pounds is half of your passengers.
What do you do? There is no guarantee that you would survive ditching the plane but can you really order anyone to jump off? Either everyone lives or everyone dies... the only other alternative is to ask for volunteers.
Maybe deliberate that the daughter is blonde-haired and blue-eyed, with a Germanic hairstyle, defending her father's record, that he shouldn't be apologetic. This is not the attitude of all the children of Nazis post=Wrar, but many of them.