Mr. Scott once told me that the chess room is surrounded by shock absorbers which help keep the room fairly steady even when the ride on the ship gets really rocky. Sorta like the shock absorbers in a car help to give you a fairly steady ride even when you're going over some rough terrain.
@@JukeboxJoeB I'm sure he has at least one special area on the ship which is protected by overkill inertial dampers. How else would he keep all the bottles in his precious booze stash from breaking?
I always remember this scene for how Spock simply peaced out right as Charlie started to flip. Forget investigating why Charlie was angry or trying to calm him down, the logical thing to do was leave.
I love this scene. It's so atypical of most of what you would watch in a tv program. That's par of what made this episode so entertaining to watch. A scene devoted entirely to chess. First, showing off Kirk's insightful skills that even stun a logical Mr. Spock. Then, a young kid "hotshot" who thinks he knows everything and suffers a temper tantrum because he realizes he was outplayed and made to appear foolish and stupid. The whole scene is captivating from start to finish. It's 1960s pop television writing at it's finest!!
You are right-Kirk cannot checkmate Spock's king by moving the same bishop that he moved on his previous move to block Spock's first check of Kirk's king because moving the bishop would expose Kirk's king to check by Spock's first checking chess piece.
There were no consistent rules or patterns to the games played in the series. The plain fact is that the 3D chess set was just a clever prop that enabled the actors to move pieces around the game space without really having to know anything about the rules of chess and by which no one could really call the series out on it, since it could always be claimed that this "space chess" was played by its own rules if anybody did question the random moves.
7Lukibi99Tore7 I won't refute you completely - I openly admit I cannot - but I would like to point out that Spock uses the same piece to check Kirk both times. This would indeed allow for the bishop to move. Being no 3D chessmaster, I cannot say much beyond that. I think LordZontar is probably right regardless.
I remember how amazed I was when I first saw this strange looking chess set. I thought it was so beautiful. I had no idea it actually worked as a chess game.
I remember checkmating a kid in a tournament like that, 'Checkmate', 'No it's not!?' 'It is, here, here, here' - He flipped the board and told the instructor he beat me hahaha
There was one time when I lost my cool in an inter-school chess championship. I had my opponent cornered, had the material advantage, and was closing in for the kill when I made one wrong move that allowed him to escape into stalemate. No, I didn't flip over the board but I did let my disgust show in public. It was not one of my more dignified moments. And it wasn't my opponent I was angry with but myself for having committed the blunder that blew the victory. I had played a good, tough game up to that point against a very skillful challenger and couldn't believe I let that stalemate happen by doing something so basically dumb at the end.
What I have always heard in my head (from Charlie, as Captain Kirk is leaving): "But I wanted to play chess with YOU, Captain!" Great acting by Robert Walker, Jr. That's why he seems irritated with Spock, even before the game begins.
If you will watch every episode clip of all Star Trek, the original series, pay attention to the music. No other TV or movie has the outstanding orchestration that Gene Roddenberry put together and all his episodes. The music makes it come alive with emotion..
I was hearing the tunes on old black and white cowboy movies and TV shows that my father and one of my grandfathers watched. Even part of the theme song was done for another project. Star Trek just limited the tunes which made them more memorable.
I remember watching this when I was 8 or 9 for the first time. His melting all those chess pieces was the creepiest thing I'd ever seen at the time. I was an odd child.
You weren't alone. I may have picked some of the spookier episodes to show to my kids, but they found Star Trek creepy. I always preferred the scary children episodes so I'm guessing it was my fault.
The bishops are actually kind of useless in space chess. It's the knights you want to worry about. Those limited square spaces give them more advantage. They want to come up with a unique version? Come up with space multidimensional version of Chinese Chess. Now that would kind of suit a little bit more of how a naval/ or space battle would go.
That was a popular game back in the 60s --- a commercially available set that Star Trek propmeister Wah Chang used to construct his 3D chess prop for the series.
From what I gathered, the main boards were made from a 3D variant of tic-tac-toe called Qubic, with the space checkers just plugged in the corners. In hindsight, it makes a lot of sense. But how did Wah Chang even come up with that?
It is a real game, and you can find tutorials about it. However, it's rather confusing and in no way better than 2d chess. Of course, as a trek geek, it is a must...
Looking again at the chess game scene in the Star Trek episode, "Charlie X", it appears that the chess piece Spock checks Kirk's king with two moves in a row is a queen and not a rook, although it is hard to tell definitively what type of chess piece Spock moves twice in a row to check Kirk's king twice in a row at the end of that game.
Yeah, it's definitely a weird situation. Spock put Kirk in check. Kirk made a move that I'm not even really sure blocked the check. Spock puts him in check and Kirk responds with checkmate. Also, how would Spock miss that there was a checkmate in for Kirk?
@@LucianDevine . It reminds me of the absurd line of dialogue that the scriptwriter of the episode, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" had Spock say to Lieutenant Gary Mitchell in that episode when Spock says, "The Captain played most illogically - his next move should have been the rook". Really Spock? Why would Kirk make a rook move when he found a checkmate in one move by moving a different piece? It would have been illogical (and a blunder of a sort) if Kirk had failed to see and play the checkmate in one move! It also reminds me of the absurd line of dialogue written by the excellent writer Theodore Sturgean for the great episode, "Amok Time" when at the end of that Star Trek episode, Spock says to T'Pring, "I see no logic in preferring Ston over me"! That is a contradiction of what Spock told Kirk earlier in the episode in Spock's cabin when Spock asked Kirk, "Haven't you wondered how Vulcans choose their mates?" and Kirk responds, " I guess we all assumed it is done quite logically" and Spock says, "No it is not", thereby clearly indicating that Vulcans, like humans, choose their mates based on emotion and sexual attraction! So why would Spock "see no logic" in T' Pring preferring Ston over him?
@@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd . But Spock said to Kirk at the end of the episode aboard the Enterprise in Sickbay that when Spock thought he had killed Kirk in their fight, he found that he had "lost all interest in T'Pring" and that his "madness" was gone - indicating that at the conclusion of the fight he returned to his normal, cool, rational, calm and logical self!
The sight of the 3D chessboard in Star Trek was what inspired me to learn chess when I was a kid. Sadly, in the actual series there were no rules and no actual games played. It was just a very clever prop which allowed the actors to simply move pieces around in a sham game for this or that scene in an episode, without the producers getting called on it by actual chess playing fans. However, I have long appreciated the design of a three-dimensional chessboard that still limited itself to the standard 64 squares and doesn't employ extra, nonstandard pieces or simply multiple chess sets on stacked boards. That took some creativity. It was what it needed to be -- an iteration of chess that fits well with a spacefaring culture seeking to encourage multidimensional thinking. Others have since developed at least three different rule systems to make a coherent game of it.
This was not a show about chess! So your point about ST showing "rules" and no actual games played was pointless. What was brilliant about ST (when the episode was well-written) was that it inspired you about the future and how important a role perspective plays when tackling anything. So be thankful and appreciative that a show like ST existed in the first place and inspired you to learn more about chess. And no more snide remarks about "very clever props" and it being a "sham game." Got it?
Ha ha, who's crying now? MAGA losers. But let's get back to the Star Trek future -- where small minded jingoists, racists and authoritarian punks have been banished to the ancient past ... only found on some misguided planets, badly in need of Captain Kirk's romantic overtures ... and Mr. Spok's logic. The future is so bright!
@ trist2 LLGGS. But Spock could simply capture Kirk's checking bishop with his rook. And there is no indication in that chess game scene from the Star Trek episode, "Charlie X" that Kirk had checked Spock's king with a separate chess piece prior to his "checkmating" bishop move!
@@michaelbarlow6610 That is true. However, this would not be possible if the move before the mate is a check delivered by a pinned piece. Here is a theoretical position I made for what could have happened: www.chess.com/forum/view/general/spock-vs-kirk-theoretical-position#comment-53930740
The chess "board" has black trim when Kirk and Spock are playing, when Charlie sits down to play with Spock, the trim is chrome. Hmmmm. I wonder whatever happened to those sets.
2:08 "Stupid white pieces I played with! I'll show you for making me lose!" (For the record, I know he was supposed to use the black pieces, but we all know he didn't.)
In reality, Spock, as a part-Vulcan able to think more clearly and more logically than humans, would beat Kirk every time, just as the best current chess programs are far stronger than any human players at present. Chess is a game which has developed steadily through exhaustive analysis over time. The romantic era of huge risk-taking ended in the 19th century. Modern grandmasters have openings memorized, and are thinking 16 or 17 moves ahead in tournament competition. But computers, using brute-force process of elimination, can crunch thousands of potential moves in seconds. No human can compete with that.
This is not necessarily true. Theoretically, a complete beginner could be a chess grandmaster because a lot of high level chess is simply memorizing strategies and counter strategies in order to predict your opponent's most logical next move and act accordingly. A complete beginner would know none of this, and could in theory beat the master by simply playing in a completely unpredictable fashion. None of this is to say that Kirk is a complete beginner, but it is to say that he probably knows how Spock tends to play chess and can be "illogical" and therefore unpredictable accordingly to throw off Spock's planning. There is also the further distinct possibility that Spock simply let Kirk win because Kirk is his friend. And sometimes the logical thing to do is to let your friend win.
That's because the Franklin Mint was marketing the sets as "collectables", and a lot of fans are gullible. The FM sets aren't even to the same scale as the original TV prop or the one used on TNG. Meanwhile, anybody can make their own Star Trek 3D chess set even out of cardboard and have the game experience for far less than $400, or even $40 for that matter.
Spock was supposed to be a chess expert (in "Court Martial", he says that he programmed the ship's computer for it himself), but here, he doesn't seem that good at it. Kirk beats him (as he did earlier in "Where No Man Has Gone Before").
I don't think that's supposed to imply Spock isn't that good at it. I think he's supposed to be excellent, and that's why we're supposed to find it all the more impressive when Kirk beats him. Contrary to his pop culture reputation, TOS consistently portrays Kirk as cerebral and brilliant in his own right. He's not less intelligent than Spock, just less emotionally repressed.
I'm guessing this is just because I don't know how 3D Chess is played, but I don't see how Kirk got a checkmate out of a check like that. Did his move end up blocking the check that Spock had him in? And if so, then wouldn't Spock be able to just take the piece that was checkmating him?
Bad chess game. Kirk is in check. He must block the check, move out of check or take the piece causing the check. He does not do one of these and makes a move to checkmate Spock. Kirk is still in check.
That's an awfully delicate-looking glass chessboard to put on a ship which violently veers and slams around every couple of episodes.
Probably made of "transparent aluminum" which is supposedly pretty common in the future (re: Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home).
@@RetroMaticGamer we have it now. Aluminum oxinitride.
I doubt plexiglass is all that fragile.
Mr. Scott once told me that the chess room is surrounded by shock absorbers which help keep the room fairly steady even when the ride on the ship gets really rocky. Sorta like the shock absorbers in a car help to give you a fairly steady ride even when you're going over some rough terrain.
@@JukeboxJoeB I'm sure he has at least one special area on the ship which is protected by overkill inertial dampers. How else would he keep all the bottles in his precious booze stash from breaking?
I always remember this scene for how Spock simply peaced out right as Charlie started to flip. Forget investigating why Charlie was angry or trying to calm him down, the logical thing to do was leave.
Well from Spock's perspective Charlie was acting like an overly emotional teenager, not worth investigation.
Spock isn't interested in emotional brats
Yeah Spock at the time was probably just thinking "This young human is having a hormone-driven emotional outburst. Nothing unusual here."
He knew why, Charlie was reacting like a spoiled little brat.
Just noticed for the first time, Charlie melted the white chess pieces. Never paid attention before, just assumed he would have melted Spock’s pieces.
When you play someone like Charlie X, you need to remember C3PO's advice about letting the Wookie win.
GregoryTheGr8ster What about the droid attack on the wookies thought?
Well said
I don't know, I'd rather have Charlie use his powers on me than have Chewie rip my arms off.
@@Shanethefilmmaker He can turn your face into having nothing but skin. No eyes, nose, mouth or ears.
@@kingofallwhites ya but at least there's the chance it's instant. Chewie would rip them quick or take his sweet time depending on his mood.
I love this scene. It's so atypical of most of what you would watch in a tv program. That's par of what made this episode so entertaining to watch. A scene devoted entirely to chess. First, showing off Kirk's insightful skills that even stun a logical Mr. Spock. Then, a young kid "hotshot" who thinks he knows everything and suffers a temper tantrum because he realizes he was outplayed and made to appear foolish and stupid. The whole scene is captivating from start to finish. It's 1960s pop television writing at it's finest!!
1:48 I like how Spock sits there like “let that sink in”
I love the way Spock looks at Kirk when he gets up he is so impressed with his Captain's ability to beat him at chess, sweet!
How he checkmated when he was in check
exactly my thoughts!!!
BUT ITs Vulcanian 4D Chess
You are right-Kirk cannot checkmate Spock's king by moving the same bishop that he moved on his previous move to block Spock's first check of Kirk's king because moving the bishop would expose Kirk's king to check by Spock's first checking chess piece.
There were no consistent rules or patterns to the games played in the series. The plain fact is that the 3D chess set was just a clever prop that enabled the actors to move pieces around the game space without really having to know anything about the rules of chess and by which no one could really call the series out on it, since it could always be claimed that this "space chess" was played by its own rules if anybody did question the random moves.
7Lukibi99Tore7 I won't refute you completely - I openly admit I cannot - but I would like to point out that Spock uses the same piece to check Kirk both times. This would indeed allow for the bishop to move.
Being no 3D chessmaster, I cannot say much beyond that. I think LordZontar is probably right regardless.
Only way to do that is to block the check with a checkmating piece
I remember how amazed I was when I first saw this strange looking chess set. I thought it was so beautiful. I had no idea it actually worked as a chess game.
I remember checkmating a kid in a tournament like that, 'Checkmate', 'No it's not!?' 'It is, here, here, here' - He flipped the board and told the instructor he beat me hahaha
I played games with adults like that
Yep - sore losers go nuts. Many a RISK board has also been flipped.
Pulled a warner brothers
There was one time when I lost my cool in an inter-school chess championship. I had my opponent cornered, had the material advantage, and was closing in for the kill when I made one wrong move that allowed him to escape into stalemate. No, I didn't flip over the board but I did let my disgust show in public. It was not one of my more dignified moments. And it wasn't my opponent I was angry with but myself for having committed the blunder that blew the victory. I had played a good, tough game up to that point against a very skillful challenger and couldn't believe I let that stalemate happen by doing something so basically dumb at the end.
What I have always heard in my head (from Charlie, as Captain Kirk is leaving): "But I wanted to play chess with YOU, Captain!" Great acting by Robert Walker, Jr.
That's why he seems irritated with Spock, even before the game begins.
Fifty years seeing this ep and I never made that connection, but there it is
Star Trek TOS had a lot of episodes where childish brats had godlike power. Much like that Twilight Zone episode.
If you will watch every episode clip of all Star Trek, the original series, pay attention to the music. No other TV or movie has the outstanding orchestration that Gene Roddenberry put together and all his episodes. The music makes it come alive with emotion..
I was hearing the tunes on old black and white cowboy movies and TV shows that my father and one of my grandfathers watched. Even part of the theme song was done for another project. Star Trek just limited the tunes which made them more memorable.
With the best being Sol Kaplain's Doomsday Machine.
I remember watching this when I was 8 or 9 for the first time. His melting all those chess pieces was the creepiest thing I'd ever seen at the time. I was an odd child.
You weren't alone. I may have picked some of the spookier episodes to show to my kids, but they found Star Trek creepy. I always preferred the scary children episodes so I'm guessing it was my fault.
It was an odd time.
I was a teenager and I thought it was quite scary too. It was a well done scene. The entire episode was great!
Kirk had also beaten Spock at 3D chess in the second pilot episode, "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
I bet the bloopers for this episode were hilarious
When I was a kid I saw this episode and Charlie scared me. But at the same time I liked him because I could relate to his social awkwardness
2:14 = me after I lose a chess game.
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😂😂😂😂😂
"As you wish." AHA I KNEW IT!!
RIGHT?
0:39 - Perhaps the closest Spock's expression can get to "You son of a b-----!"
I think in the pilot Kirk beat him too. Of course, in the pilot, SPock referred to having a human ANCESTOR.
0:35 Not only does Kirk checkmate while in check, he moved his bishop non-diagonally. So that's how he beats Spock, he cheats.
0:35 - In space chess, bishops move like rooks?
classic kirk. wins the game by cheating.
In space everything moves like rooks.
The bishops are actually kind of useless in space chess. It's the knights you want to worry about. Those limited square spaces give them more advantage. They want to come up with a unique version? Come up with space multidimensional version of Chinese Chess. Now that would kind of suit a little bit more of how a naval/ or space battle would go.
Kobayashi Maru Gambit. When faced with a no win scenario, change the rules of the game to fit your needs.
I never noticed before the 3D checkers in the foreground... interesting... wonder if anyone has come up with rules for that?
That was a popular game back in the 60s --- a commercially available set that Star Trek propmeister Wah Chang used to construct his 3D chess prop for the series.
From what I gathered, the main boards were made from a 3D variant of tic-tac-toe called Qubic, with the space checkers just plugged in the corners.
In hindsight, it makes a lot of sense.
But how did Wah Chang even come up with that?
@@Azzameen99AZ he prefers to call it "inspired"
The 3D checkers also showed up in By Any Other Name. Kirk tumbles over them when he's fighting Rojan in the rec room
It is a real game, and you can find tutorials about it. However, it's rather confusing and in no way better than 2d chess. Of course, as a trek geek, it is a must...
And thus came the birth of the what we modernly call the 'Rage Quit'
Spock would refer to it as "over-emotional, illogically strident cessation of play, an outburst indicative of poor sportsmanship".
How is it that I can’t find a GIF of 2:12?!?!? That is the best pissed off face I have ever seen!
There you go mate: s8.gifyu.com/images/Star_Trek_On_Chess.gif
" Charlie, being a sore loser is.......illogical, check mate."
" Captain, we went to play chess, ......and it looks like some yokel melted the white chess pieces only , any spare pieces around?."
I make that face everytime I lose at chess
I think that's the first time I heard Spock call someone by their first name without them telling him to.
Charlie's next stop would be the starboard airlock.
Looking again at the chess game scene in the Star Trek episode, "Charlie X", it appears that the chess piece Spock checks Kirk's king with two moves in a row is a queen and not a rook, although it is hard to tell definitively what type of chess piece Spock moves twice in a row to check Kirk's king twice in a row at the end of that game.
Yeah, it's definitely a weird situation. Spock put Kirk in check. Kirk made a move that I'm not even really sure blocked the check. Spock puts him in check and Kirk responds with checkmate. Also, how would Spock miss that there was a checkmate in for Kirk?
@@LucianDevine . It reminds me of the absurd line of dialogue that the scriptwriter of the episode, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" had Spock say to Lieutenant Gary Mitchell in that episode when Spock says, "The Captain played most illogically - his next move should have been the rook". Really Spock? Why would Kirk make a rook move when he found a checkmate in one move by moving a different piece? It would have been illogical (and a blunder of a sort) if Kirk had failed to see and play the checkmate in one move! It also reminds me of the absurd line of dialogue written by the excellent writer Theodore Sturgean for the great episode, "Amok Time" when at the end of that Star Trek episode, Spock says to T'Pring, "I see no logic in preferring Ston over me"! That is a contradiction of what Spock told Kirk earlier in the episode in Spock's cabin when Spock asked Kirk, "Haven't you wondered how Vulcans choose their mates?" and Kirk responds, " I guess we all assumed it is done quite logically" and Spock says, "No it is not", thereby clearly indicating that Vulcans, like humans, choose their mates based on emotion and sexual attraction! So why would Spock "see no logic" in T' Pring preferring Ston over him?
@@michaelbarlow6610Perhaps because during Pon Farr, even Vulcans can get passive-aggressively jealous.
@@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd . But Spock said to Kirk at the end of the episode aboard the Enterprise in Sickbay that when Spock thought he had killed Kirk in their fight, he found that he had "lost all interest in T'Pring" and that his "madness" was gone - indicating that at the conclusion of the fight he returned to his normal, cool, rational, calm and logical self!
The sight of the 3D chessboard in Star Trek was what inspired me to learn chess when I was a kid. Sadly, in the actual series there were no rules and no actual games played. It was just a very clever prop which allowed the actors to simply move pieces around in a sham game for this or that scene in an episode, without the producers getting called on it by actual chess playing fans. However, I have long appreciated the design of a three-dimensional chessboard that still limited itself to the standard 64 squares and doesn't employ extra, nonstandard pieces or simply multiple chess sets on stacked boards. That took some creativity. It was what it needed to be -- an iteration of chess that fits well with a spacefaring culture seeking to encourage multidimensional thinking. Others have since developed at least three different rule systems to make a coherent game of it.
This was not a show about chess! So your point about ST showing "rules" and no actual games played was pointless. What was brilliant about ST (when the episode was well-written) was that it inspired you about the future and how important a role perspective plays when tackling anything. So be thankful and appreciative that a show like ST existed in the first place and inspired you to learn more about chess. And no more snide remarks about "very clever props" and it being a "sham game." Got it?
@@LordGreystoke I'll make whatever remarks I damn well please and if you don't like that, tough shit. Got it?
Q:What did Spock find in the Enterprise toilet?
A:The Captain's log!
Charlie, the Joffrey of the stars!
This scene alone just makes me want to read an Isaac Asimov novel
Awesomely done .
Most people usually knock the board off the table.
I'd love to see this kid play Chewbacca , see which one is the sorest loser
Somehow, I don't think a Wookie is much of a match for a kid with the power to instantly send him to the Cornfield.
2:15 this how i get mad while I'm at work 😂
hey guys producer here, letting u know how dope of a sample this is
I'll wish you all away to the cornfield
Twilight Zone throwback, nice
Charlie vs Q. Who would win?
Damn, Kirk beat Spock at chess twice?!
Classic Shatner. Being the lead man in the show he wouldn't let the writers make him look inferior to Spock by losing at chess.
Maybe Mr. Spock "... will be able to beat his next commanding officer at chess!"
kirk was cheating , he moved the bishop like a rook. spock just lets it slide and lets kirk think he really won
@@Romulan2469 I didn't read it that way. More like intuition and instincts can defeat logic
@@dominionwar1185 Space chess might have different rules for all we know.
What a bad sport! I can't believe what Charlie did to that precious Ganine honey-dipper set!
Charlie has liberal tears 😢
Ha ha, who's crying now? MAGA losers. But let's get back to the Star Trek future -- where small minded jingoists, racists and authoritarian punks have been banished to the ancient past ... only found on some misguided planets, badly in need of Captain Kirk's romantic overtures ... and Mr. Spok's logic. The future is so bright!
How does he go from being in check to checkmate in one move?
Block the check whilst placing the opponent's king in checkmate, it's possible in normal chess so don't see why it's not possible in space chess.
If you block the check wouldn’t the opponent simply take the piece doing the block and thus prevent checkmate?
From the school of HR: Charlie was a "bad hire."
How can he give checkmate if his king is in check?
By blocking the check with a piece that also happens to checkmate the opponent's king at the same time.
@ trist2 LLGGS. But Spock could simply capture Kirk's checking bishop with his rook. And there is no indication in that chess game scene from the Star Trek episode, "Charlie X" that Kirk had checked Spock's king with a separate chess piece prior to his "checkmating" bishop move!
@@michaelbarlow6610 That is true. However, this would not be possible if the move before the mate is a check delivered by a pinned piece. Here is a theoretical position I made for what could have happened: www.chess.com/forum/view/general/spock-vs-kirk-theoretical-position#comment-53930740
@@L2ggs Yeah, I think it's very rare unless both players are cooperating for it, but it is still possible.
A discovered check
Charlie a spoiled brat with uncontrollable power
I do that every time I make peanut butter cookies in the replicator.
/loses chess
/dramatically crepes pants
oh charlie
Charlie is 17, the actor is 26.
Man, he has some bad acid reflux. Better see Doc McCoy about that.
He checkmated him whilst being check.
Space chess 🤔
The chess "board" has black trim when Kirk and Spock are playing, when Charlie sits down to play with Spock, the trim is chrome. Hmmmm. I wonder whatever happened to those sets.
2:08 "Stupid white pieces I played with! I'll show you for making me lose!" (For the record, I know he was supposed to use the black pieces, but we all know he didn't.)
Were Kirk and Spock actually playing, or just moving the pieces around at random?
In reality, Spock, as a part-Vulcan able to think more clearly and more logically than humans, would beat Kirk every time, just as the best current chess programs are far stronger than any human players at present. Chess is a game which has developed steadily through exhaustive analysis over time. The romantic era of huge risk-taking ended in the 19th century. Modern grandmasters have openings memorized, and are thinking 16 or 17 moves ahead in tournament competition. But computers, using brute-force process of elimination, can crunch thousands of potential moves in seconds. No human can compete with that.
This is not necessarily true. Theoretically, a complete beginner could be a chess grandmaster because a lot of high level chess is simply memorizing strategies and counter strategies in order to predict your opponent's most logical next move and act accordingly. A complete beginner would know none of this, and could in theory beat the master by simply playing in a completely unpredictable fashion.
None of this is to say that Kirk is a complete beginner, but it is to say that he probably knows how Spock tends to play chess and can be "illogical" and therefore unpredictable accordingly to throw off Spock's planning.
There is also the further distinct possibility that Spock simply let Kirk win because Kirk is his friend. And sometimes the logical thing to do is to let your friend win.
“Terrible having bad blood like that..”
0:31 so in space chess u can ignore that ur in check an continue with ur strategy of pursuing checkmate?
1:33 - I never get that dramatic music when I play chess...
All humans are like Charlie in degrees!
1:41 So checkers is also stacked?!
Okay so you start out on the first level, then roll your eyes back and burn the pieces. Interesting game.
For a regular 3D chess set is 40 dollars
For some reason the Star Trek chess version is 400 or 1000 dollars
That's because the Franklin Mint was marketing the sets as "collectables", and a lot of fans are gullible. The FM sets aren't even to the same scale as the original TV prop or the one used on TNG. Meanwhile, anybody can make their own Star Trek 3D chess set even out of cardboard and have the game experience for far less than $400, or even $40 for that matter.
Bobby Fischer’s mentor.
How the hell does Spock not see a mate in one position?
He's only... well, half human. Like Picard tells Data, it's possible to do everything right and still lose.
Actually it’s chess on Star Trek
good old UESPA !
1:23 3D checkers!
Brilliant. 😘
Então vim aqui vê o xadrez em 3D!
0:35 bishop is not a rock, there is no such move allowed in chess )
Spock was supposed to be a chess expert (in "Court Martial", he says that he programmed the ship's computer for it himself), but here, he doesn't seem that good at it. Kirk beats him (as he did earlier in "Where No Man Has Gone Before").
I don't think that's supposed to imply Spock isn't that good at it. I think he's supposed to be excellent, and that's why we're supposed to find it all the more impressive when Kirk beats him. Contrary to his pop culture reputation, TOS consistently portrays Kirk as cerebral and brilliant in his own right. He's not less intelligent than Spock, just less emotionally repressed.
Ok I have a major problem how did kirk check mate spock it seems the piece he used was a bishop and I do know how to play 3d chess
A discovered check
3D chess was actually worked out as a game.
Assuming the rules of space chess are similar to chess, wouldn’t Kirk have to move his king out of check before check mating Spock?
*2:14** LOL! WTF!?*
you havent watched the episode have you
Charlie’s face is just as small as the actual Charlie Kirks face.
Charlie X had the biggest head in the world. WTH?!?
Why didn't Charlie use his powers to force Spock to make bad moves?
Spock would lose against Bobby Fischer. The best Spock would be able to attain is a draw.
Is that Central Park New York on your pic?
@@viborgvee8399 Looks a lot like Manhattan, but it's actually Toronto.
Don't you mean Chess on Stat Trek lol
Hello. 2000 something
I'm guessing this is just because I don't know how 3D Chess is played, but I don't see how Kirk got a checkmate out of a check like that. Did his move end up blocking the check that Spock had him in? And if so, then wouldn't Spock be able to just take the piece that was checkmating him?
Kirk's second move with the bishop to a different spot could have blocked the check while opening another piece to checkmate spok.
It would have had to have involved a discovered check. By moving the piece to block the check, another piece would then put Spock in checkmate
Chuck did not like losing at Chess.
Charlie seems a disagreeable young man....let's give him the room over the garage and monitor his pizza deliveries.
Lo lindo del ajedrez es que no calienta...
I would have let him win
Issue. I miss squeaky
2:14 big BM
Bad chess game. Kirk is in check. He must block the check, move out of check or take the piece causing the check. He does not do one of these and makes a move to checkmate Spock. Kirk is still in check.
typical youth of today
boomer moment
Why didn't Charlie make spock go away?
Kirk plays chess in an illogical manner and that beats Spock?
Charlie needs to be taught a lesson in manners .
Chess
This might sound stupid, but is 3D Chess an actual game?
NO
There have been several 3D chess game variants since 1905 when Ferdinand Maack in Germany invented Raumschach.
A young magnus...
Sore losa
Charlie took that pretty poorly.
Charlie is the quintessential democrat
what exactly did he do?
Gary Weiss Charlie made the chess pieces melt.
Gary Weiss Had a seizure so powerful it melted the chess pieces...
@@corbin_4738 Only the white ones.