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I'd like to get a copy of an email from 1966
Guess I am not the only one who caught that!😂
Yeah. Humans had barely begun to fathom just WTH is a facsimile transmission in 1966. And the World Wide Web had yet to be conceived.
It was a famous massive email campaign by fans that gave us a third season.
Perhaps it came from the episode, 'Tomorrow Is Yesterday'. (S1 Ep20)
Star Trek was futuristic and predicted many things that came true...but not THAT futuristic!
At 11:34....."Who morns for ---AD-ON-EYES" ??????????? STOP USING A.I. VOICE-OVERS, It's pathetic !!!
Also ma-KEES-mo
It's a bot channel.
Is there any reason why somebody can't just read it? At least they would pronounce names and words correctly and pause speaking at the correct place.
@@ferociousgumby I've noticed. 12 milliion views (mostly bots) and 30 comments is another clue. Ad revenue fraud, but real humans who use adblockers are the problem...
I automatically thumbs-down AI-voiced videos.
"A September 1966 email..." Wow, Star Trek traveled through time in the 1960's to send out an email to the nonexistent internet.
Beat me to it.
Stopped watching at that point
ppp
Lol good point. I missed that..
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Yeeeeeaaaaah...that's what happens when you rely on AI to write and speak your script.
It is NOT TRUE that Nimoy began drinking due to "pressure from the public." It was LONG HOURS on the set. And Shatner WAS invited to Takei's wedding.
Did he go?
What was he...a pack in a half a day smoker? You can see the discoloration on his teeth now that we have better color, and larger screen, formats.
They talk about Nimoy and Shatner not liking each other but on screne they created one of the loved TEAMS in TV History. The Chemistry on stage between Spock, Kirk, McCoy and even Scotty was pure magic. Great Stuff, still loved today.
Nah the power 3 was Kirk Spock and Bones.
Nimoy didn't want to see Shatner while on his death bed has more to do with avoiding the sadness of it. It is not that they didn't like each other.
@@Sidicas Um. . . scratch that, reverse it.
@@Sidicas and yeah I been to both their Residences, they hated each other
Shatner from what I’ve read about him seems like a classic A-Hole. I know most of the cast didn’t like him.
Okay, so in "The Enemy Within" there was no evil imposter Kirk; rather Kirk was divided into two versions of himself, each with different aspects of his personality, and this was clear to anyone who actually watched the episode.
Also, "Yeoman" was Janice Rand's rank as noncommissioned Starfleet personnel, not her first name.
Obviously this is AI script and voice over. It's horrible. Sounds like they've emulated a voice from the 1970s which is completely odd.
@@Scripture-Man After accidentally stumbling over other AI videos that snuch under the radar and then frustrated me with their uniform tone and repeative script (one said the same phrase for 20 minutes in the sparses of the "dialogue") I actually liked this AI better than most. I knew it was AI but it had inflection and more of a normal pace including not messing up grammar or pronounciation. The email part made me laugh my ass off though.
DC Fontana was just the tip of the iceberg. CJ Cherryh is a female author; the "H" at the end of her last name was added to make it sound less like a romance author's name - this was at her publisher's request. Andre' Norton is actually Andrea Norton (actually Alice Mary Norton, oops) - she was told to pick a male-sounding pen name. These two were amongst the very earliest SF authors. But at that time sexist attitudes even amongst the Sci Fi writers meant that female SF authors of this early period had to pick male pen names to get published. It took decades for publishers to accept that not only could female writers write good stories about something other than romance, and that their fans knew it as well.
I went through everything from Andre Norton that the library had when I was a young adult. It was immediately obvious to me that this was a female writer. I don't know who they thought they were fooling.
@@surferdude4487The same for me. I read all of her stuff in 5th and 6th grade. I just wondered what her parents were thinking, naming her Andre.
@@ann-mariemeyers9978 Maybe they thought she would be a giant author.
"...Andre' Norton is actually Andrea Norton..." Nope. try again. (Hint: Try Alice Mary Norton)
@@_XR40_ You are correct, I was running from memory instead of checking the facts. Still it doesn't change the truth that she had to use a male pen-name in order to get published.
"Oregonian Peace Treaty"..... Signed on planet Portlandia? 😅
This AI TTS voice is simply embarrassing. 😮
And the AI writing was better?
When I was a kid the Roddenberrys were our neighbors in Los Abgeles. Gene Roddenberry was a Sergeant in the LAPD and was the speechwriter for the Chief of Police. He also wrote scripts for the TV show HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL with Richard Boone. He started Star trek later.
That's pretty cool! My grandfather worked with Rod Serling in the mid 50's, years before The Twilight Zone. I have a few scripts from The Storm Radio Program.
Have gun will travel was EXCELLENT scripts and dialogues. I wish richard boone could have been a character bad guy on Star Trek like that fat guy with the mustache, brilliant actors.
@@DIOSpeedDemon Harry Mudd?!
@@ChesapeakeBayBrian399 THATS IT!!!!
@@DIOSpeedDemon I know it is, I got the orig scripts! Lol
1:45 The first email ever sent was in 1971 so this video is nonsense. 😆 🤣
According to Herb Solow’s book, Alexander Courage didn’t know about Roddenberry writing lyrics to get half the royalties. It was a dirty trick and Courage never worked for Roddenberry again.
Good for Courage.
"...If you've watched the video 'til here, that means you've enjoyed the video..." Or it means that it's Sunday afternoon, I've got a miserable cold and I'm just that bored....
Hey, in bed with a cold, watching TV/video... hot tea & chicken soup, w/saltine crackers
Too sick.... to click on... "How to knit a cat sweater video... on right side of monitor. (imagine the Shatneresque pauses)
I only watched til there cuz I was waiting for it to get good...
@@kevingoebel170 I'll still be sick and cold after this video ends, so thats next... (So I'm not sick, but bored and caught up on all my usuals)
Poor way to end the video. The narration just dropped. No real wrap-up ending.
Number One was accused by Vina of being a walking computer. Years later, she was the voice of the ships computer. 😅
Corporate restructure. Also called, right sizing these days.
So, flying computer vs walking.
She was nurse Chapel too.
Well spotted 🖖🤓
Majel Barrett also played Deanna Troi's mother on TNG for 104 episodes, and she did the ship's computer voice on every sequel until her death in 2008.
I'm pretty sure that the monologue was written by A.I. and the TTS does not know how to pronounce many of the words.
@@ferociousgumby
That long...?! A lifetime to an Android ...
@@ferociousgumby
I have heard of them... Creepy!!
@@ferociousgumby Spock, is that you?
@@musicloverme3993 FASCINATING.
Wait, you mean it's not the Oreganian Treaty?
I was amazed to learn that it was Lucile Ball that was the strong arm that made sure the Star Trek series was picked up on CBS. It would not have happened without her.
The split finger Vulcan salute was from Leonard's boyhood which he incorporated into the episode "AMOK TIME". The Live Long & Prosper phrase was not from Leonard's boyhood, that was written by Mr. Theodore Sturges. What you said of Leonard Nimoy & William Shatner's breakup of their friendship is what is rumored. But also, William Shatner was also in Florida for a Charity Fundraiser. So, he said he didn't go to the funeral. William's daughter went in his place. When talking about the Shatner & Takei feud you need to give both sides, Mr. Shatner said he wasn't invited to Mr. Takei's wedding, Takei said he was. Who knows? Everything on the feuds are rumors. That's between Shatner, Takei & Leonard's family. It was DeForest, Leonard & William who developed Tinnitus and I believe Leonard said it was during the filming of "The Arena" not "The Apple". You are wrong, Paramount wanted Leonard to return as Spock, Leonard wanted to direct. He quoted " You need two things; you need someone to play Spock and someone to direct the movie. I can do both." They gave him the directing job & he gave them Spock. He went on to direct Star Trek 4 which is one of the highest grossing Star Trek movies.
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I've heard that a Shatner/Takei feud may have been fueled by Takei's resentment at Paramount's decision to drop a plan for movies or a series focusing on Sulu as Captain of the Excelsior as well by Shatner's arrogant treatment of his TOS cast mates during the production of Generations.
@@TLowGrrreen From what I understand Shatner/Takei feud started back during the original series. None of them really got alone with Mr. Shatner. If he didn't get his way, since he was the star, he would go to the director or Gene Roddenberry and complain; they gave into him. He was extremely jealous of Leonard's popularity as Spock (he was getting more fan mail than Mr. Shatner) and would steal his lines. Roddenberry mentioned it to Issaic Asimov and was told to make them inseparable. That's what they did. That's why you see where Kirk is Spock is with him. After time the two became close friends. The only thing I ever heard Mr. Nimoy say about it was the rivalry was like two brothers competing for the same thing. In interviews Mr. Shatner claimed he never really knew Mr. Takei, he only saw him on the set when they had lines together, which wasn't often. LLAP
@@lewiscarey1593 Thank you. I've been a Star Trek fan since the beginning. Especially Leonard Nimoy/Spock.
The split-finger hand sign is a Jewish blessing though.
"...a September 1966 email"??? Star Trek was futuristic, but no email existed in 1966.
Sure, but they were called telegrams!
@@LuciferMornStar OK
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Memo?
@@stephenlupoli ...and the old mimeograph !!
@@LuciferMornStar Or telex. Everybody is forgetting telex. But I had telex in the seventies, and all big companies had telex. Much faster than telegrams, and no persons in between. Allowed and recognized at court. Telex was a big thing and completely forgotten.
Yes we did.
And P.S. This is one of the worst-quality videos on the hole of RUclips. (And I left out the 'w' deliberately.)
Needs a section on Wah Chang, a distant relative of mine. He was a special effects guy in Hollywood. He designed and built the salt monster, the Gorn and the tricorder and communicator. I don’t think he e er got a credit for these iconic items. Many, many years ago, I had a brief conversation with Gene Roddenberry and asked him about my “Uncle Wah.” He recognized the name immediately and remarked that it was amazing how he moved around - he contracted adult polio and had to use heavy arm braces to get around. He also got the Oscar for “The Time Machine,” for his company, Excelsior. An amazing man.
@gatesurfer WOW, that is truly awesome. Thanks for sharing.
I recall this alsi, I was on the set a few times as a non speaking extra. ( also non paid as I told them I would refuse it if offered I was in several shots but teach ended up flipper from the final to save room for commercials...oh well.
The September 1966 Email. I kept telling everyone all my Kindergarten classmates that the show was way ahead of it's time, but they just kept eating paste.
A prophet is never honored in his own land.
I wasn't into paste but I sure ate a lot of crayolas!
Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously.
Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
When the series came to Australia I was boarding in Brisbane, and a mere 21 yrs old, and luckily for me, the landlord ( a life long friend of myself and my parents who live in NZ), loved the cosmos as well, and watched the show with me, and we would compare notes afterwards, priceless . This was before the moon landings, but it was a great prelude. Many years later when my wife and I lived with her parents and siblings in Brisbane, I watched 'Cosmos' on TV, sadly it was just me, nobody else seemed interested, considering the household was 8 people it was a bit disappointing at the time. But I do remember earlier when I lived in Hervey Bay also in Qld, and underaged (18)! I used to know the time by looking at the southern cross, ( could not afford a watch on a 'Sugar cane cutting' income) as we had to 'go bush' for an illegal piss up. All my mates (and my girlfriend at the time, with her parents lock down time) were impressed, after that t really cemented my love of astronomy. P.S. I do now own a watch, or should I say a smart phone. I also am the presi of our local astro club, lots of fun.
@@davesteadman1226 No matter the color, they all tasted the same.
Nichelle Nichols was DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!!! The racism of Hollywood that didnt allow that beautiful woman to become greater than she was . STILL an ICON !!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
To be fair she coudln't act anyway. If she invested in some acting lessons maybe. I am also a big fan of hers and she was in some movies but not many lines/
Nichelle was stunning compared to the masculine race-swapped "Uhura" of Strange New Worlds.
She was a beautiful woman. One of my favorite characters.
Roddenberry could have had his pick of Shakespearean-level black actresses of the time, but naturally he cast the chick he was banging. But really, Nichelle wasn't a bad actress; she was just horribly miscast. Go watch Truck Turner. She absolutely nails that role. She is a total badass! I'd love to have seen her become a blaxploitation icon along the lines of Pam Grier.
I’m impressed that the Enterprise had a whole squad of skilled hairdressers, working nonstop to keep the crew looking spiffy!
It's not Oregonian Peace Treaty. It is pronounced organian. (or-GAIN-ian)
Lately all of these series info things and almost everything else on RUclips is written and spoken by AI. AI just isn't that smart yet, but too many people are just too lazy to care.
TTS has been a thing since at least the early 1980s when I first dabbled with it. It hasn't been improved much in the decades since. 😮
As soon as the "narrator" pronounced "Adonis" as "Ad-oh-nice" I figured the whole narration was fake. I don't need to waste my time with shit AI. If I want to hear computer-generated voices, I have a WHOLE lot of Vocaloid music to listen to.
Downvoted.
@@SenileOtaku Agreed, supposedly a real human decides what the subject should be, then leaves the investigation, script-writing, exposition and all to the AI, and they just aren't that smart yet. What's crazy is that the AI can't even learn from itself. It almost never pronounces a name the same way twice.
@@WickedPrince3D RUclips is too busy harrassing firearms channels and promoting gun control to incorporate the correct pronunciation of many words.
The divided two Kirks were not good versus evil. You missed the whole point of the episode. What you called the "Good Kirk" is actually the "Civilized Kirk." What you label the "Evil Kirk" is actually the "Feral Kirk" motivated by his "Id" to use a psychological reference. The Feral Kirk is only Evil if you project your own judgments upon him. Acting on one's Feral desires is considered uncivilized hence as a civilized empathetic being you label the Feral Kirk Evil. In truth Man's innate Feral nature served to keep us alive as a species before the ideals and institutions of civilization took root in our collective minds. Only today when feral natures serve selfish survivalist ideals & war making goals are our primal drives reduced to "Evil" rank!
Watched the show as a child and felt l learnd a lot of various forms of information. Humanity's rise to a higher consciousness society on earth. It was not talked about, you could see the differences if you paid attention and thought about it. Human compassion, psychology, quantum physics, the problems with prejudice and more.
You're right, and I think whoever wrote this puff piece has never watched Star Trek. Aggressive risk-taking Kirk vs. kind and loving and indecisive Kirk. Neither are fit for command by themselves.
@@kkt1117 Thank you. Of course I agree. Many TOS Star Trek stories were deeper layered, nuanced philosophical dives than many people think. Most TV shows written today have nothing but topical meaning if that. It's rare to see thought provoking writing today so even if the writer watched Star Trek the true message in the story was lost to them.
6:58 At a Star Trek convention, Shatner mentioned that he saw a rerun of the "Balance of Terror" episode. By that time he had forgotten all the details of the episode. He found it quite good.
Thank you for this. Lately I've had trouble finding things to hold my attention or carry my interest for more than a moment or two. This was entirely interesting all the way through.
Star Trek was ahead of its time as it commonly wrote into the program social issues that were common to the general public.
That's what great sci-fi does!
It did deal with social issues, but that's why I got tired of it in the late '60's.
I wanted to see something different from what I saw on the News at that time.
Dear Grace,
I love you! Rest in peace, my darling.
7:04 - "...despite over 79 episodes and a few water features."
While the original series is still my favorite, I gotta admit I loved when the Star Trek fountains started coming out in the late 70s. The first one wasn't great, but "The Bath of Khan" is a classic.
@1:44: "A September 1966 E MAIL: 'Please note that Leonard's credit is to be no more than 75% of the type that we offer to William Shatner...' " A 1966 EMAIL?!?
No, Gene didn't remove Number One for Spock. The network executives got rid of Majel Barrett, the actress who played Number One, when they found out that Gene was married and having an affair with her. They feared the scandal it could ignite and how that could sink the show. Gene later snuck her back onto the show as Nurse Chapel. He later divorced his wife and married Majel. I stopped watching this video and down voted it due to this as it shows its creator doesn't know what he is talking about.
The email from 1966 didn’t clue you in?
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker Hmmm. AI? 🤨
No, they wanted to get rid of Number One, they didn't like the character. A logical woman? Preposterous! They encouraged Roddenberry to do "reasonable casting" instead.
Which is why the (originally funny native) alien became the logical first officer.
Barrett died her hair and reauditioned. She was cast as the nurse, and Roddenberry didn't even recognise her at first.
He later said he kept the alien and married the woman, it wouldn't have been legal the other way around.
The rumour that he had been dating her during the shooting of the pilot was started decades later.
@@davidwuhrer6704 I see you've drank the Gene Kool-Aid. Both network executives say she was dropped when they found out married Gene was having an affair with her. They said they would have also dropped Nicole if they had known Gene was doing her too, which he was. Gene later lied about it a number of different ways. One of which you now believe.
Gene created a great TV show. Period. But that doesn't mean he wasn't wirh his flaws. If you want to know even worse, research his reputation at Star Trek conventions.
Nice facts. AI is utube killing itself.
Nimoy didn’t make the gesture; he was the youngster. The change to minidresses was at the instance of Grace Lee Whitney, who thought the baggy tunics and pants didn’t show off her figure. Men only wore minidresses on The Next Generations. The rational, detached personality was part of Number One’s personality in the pilot, switched to Spock in the series, when she was eliminated.
Shatner nissed Nimoys Funeral because he was working somethin like a thou ks away and couldn't cancel. Where would we have been without the redoubtable D.C. Fontana, nice writin m8!!!
3:55 Yeoman is her rank, not her name.
The first name was Janice
@@albundy6008 No, her name stage name was LEGS YEOMAN! 23 SKIDDOO!
@@albundy6008 Janice Rand
AI not reliable yet, and perhaps never. Not exactly I...
Never mind the rank, look at those legs 🤯
3:57 As if her first name were "Yeoman"...
Lots of errors in this.
AI really butchered the pronunciation of Who Mourns for Adonis!
Ad o nic instead of A don is
@@michael777e No. I think that is not even a word. "Adonis" is a name, but "Adonais" is, too.
@@ThomasLahn the way you pronounce a word is not always the way it is spelled. But these videos using A.I to read almost all have at least one or two words mispronounced
@@michael777e Proves it was AI read.
@@ThomasLahn But not ADD on nick. A mythic character in Greek literature. A beautiful man loved by Persephone, whose name became a term for a man of exceptional beauty and desirability.
Shatner had tinnitus not Kelley. I wish I had a penny for every factual error in this video.
I have all 13 Star Trek movies from "The Motion Picture" to "Star Trek Beyond". Out of all this, I believe "The Wrath of Khan" is the absolute best of all, and I think Ricardo Montalban had a lot to do with it. Harve Bennett got it right.
Ricardo did indeed do a great job - but the whole sequence would have been better if they'd based it on something other than "Space Seed". JMHO....
Yeah, really.
Loved the OS Trek and DS9, voyager and Enterprise.
Picard just cared about himself and Data
The best thing I remember about the initial series is the uniforms of the female crew members.
I thought it was really funny when Shatner had his roast and addressed George Takia's coming out.
He said, "Everyone was kind of hard on you tonight. Boy, they really ripped you a new one! But I'm sure you'll put it to good use!"
wonder if there was a joke about Sulu and the Captain's Log.
@@ratbazturd1843...... I only remember one episode of SNL spoof where Shatner Told Takei : u can't suck my cock 🪄💦🍡 lol 😂 ... Any one else ........ ???
The Original Star Trek episode Bread and Circuses is about a modern society which televises life and death gladiatorial games that regulate the population. It is uncannily similar to the novel and films of The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins. Perhaps along with The Lottery a short story by Shirley Jackson? Star Trek had an impact on her story.
The guy in 1966 jumped on the laptop and emailed.....LOL
Apparently Star Trek had more than just "Trouble With Tribbles."
THERE WAS NO EMAIL IN 1966
It existed in "Amok Time". hehehe
Stopped watching when I heard that.
Only from one Tricorder to Tricorder ⚡
Yes , there was. Grow a brain.
Internal to IT and military mostly but it was email and the name was coined then. A lot happened before Tim Webster came up with the World Wide Web and made computer based comms accessible to the greater public.
BBS systems werre the next stage and that (AOL anyone?) was huge well before the net 'happened'
As usual the kiddies are completely ignorant of what happened before they were born and, also as usual, they are dense enough to advertise their ignorance. 😏 --
Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously.
Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
Yes there was. Just look up all the emails Abe Lincoln sent to George Washington. You are confused.
As a kid I was mesmerized by how real Star Trek was. Compared to the 1930's reruns of Flash Gordon. The idea of space travel seemed normal. But one part never changes the woman were dressed as risque as the studio would allow.
The pilot was better. It treated women with more seriousness.
Only the original Star Trek series matters.
Agreed, along with the movies and Animated series.
@@slaapliedjeDisagree. Only the original series matters
Come on now.
Only the original pilot episode matters.
@mcstabba Ha, it had aliens which will always be fondly remembered as "The Buttheads."
D.C. Fontana wrote several episodes for my favorite series, Logan's Run.
I do hope you've seen the original Logan's Run feature film with Michael York as Logan. There's never been a movie like it.
@@samr.england613 willing to bet money that he has.
I would think so too, but you never know. For example, many Genz's and late Millennials love the latest versions of 'Mad Max' and 'Blade Runner 2043', but have never seen the original films. It's sad, because 'BR 43' in no way compares to the original, nor does that MM movie they did a few years back. I watched the Logan's Run tv show when I was a kid, and it didn't compare at all to the feature film, and, IIRC, only ran for one season on late Saturday mornings.
@@samr.england613 Yes. My cousin, Farrah Fawcett was in the Logan's Run movie, and I tried to catch everything she was in. She played Holly, the assistant to the doctor in the New You. (We shared a great grandmother out of Texarkana, AR).
@@antonnym214 Hi. Yes, I'm well aware of Farrah's portrayal of Holly! Over the years, I've watched 'Logan's Run' well over 20 times, no exaggeration. Everybody loved Farrah! So sorry she died relatively young.
“September 1966 email”?!
Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously.
Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
Nothing better than narrators who mispronounce names and words, and get facts wrong. Super well done!
Um...wut? Stopped at 1:47. "The September 1966 email..." Classic.
Hi, It was not the first interracial kiss on TV. There is some debate about the first interracial kiss on television, but here are some of the earliest examples:
Emergency Ward 10 (1964): This British soap opera featured an interracial kiss in July 1964.
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You in Your Small Corner (1962): A British drama broadcast on ITV featured an interracial kiss in June 1962.
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Othello (1955): A televised production of Shakespeare's play featured interracial kisses between white and Black actors in December 1955.
It's important to note that these early examples often faced controversy and censorship. The famous kiss between William Shatner and Nichelle Nichols on Star Trek in 1968 is widely recognized as a significant moment, but it wasn't the first.
In the US = yes, I think it was.
European television doesnt count. Euros have always been more progressive.
@@voicetube TOS was *16 years late.*
1951 I Love Lucy
1958 The Ed Sullivan Show
1959 Sea Hunt
1960 Adventures in Paradise
1966 I Spy
1967 TOS
@@MichaelPohoreski LOL, you make a very good point!!! I never thought about that - Lucy was Caucasian and Desi… Was not! Very good catch :-)
I was going to mention the Lucy-Desi thing. Also, Sammy Davis Jr. had a kiss with a white woman, but I have forgotten whom. It predated the Kirk-Uhura kiss. Quick question, which episode came first, Plato's Step Children, or Helen of Troyis? That actress was from south east Asia, I think Vietnamese, but again, not sure
Shatner actually keot the hair pieces as they were of higher quality than he was used too. Not specifically Star trek memorbilia, but...
Keot?
@@veiledzorba Obviously they accidently hit the "o" instead of the "p".
Ah yes, "The City on the Edge of Forever". So much potential wasted, could have been a string of movies based on it. Instead, we get "Space Seed", never my favorite episode.
The Guardian of Forever was revived in "Star Trek: Discovery" :)
@@ThomasLahn Thank you for this - I'll have to look that up. Beats "Space Seed" for sure!
Functional email didn't exist until the mid 1980s.
In 1966 we were still using fax machines that worked over an acoustic coupler ... maybe 110 bits per second on a good day.
20 minutes or more to transmit one page of very low resolution text.
Yes, and I can remember thinking twice in the mid-80s about downloading a 50k file because it would tie up the phone for 20 minutes.
You said still using except for the fact that they were just starting to use them. The Long Distance Xerography (LDX) machine as it was originally known was not invented until 1964 by Xerox and wasn't in widespread use for a couple of years.
@@mikeslater6246 In 1966 I was 12 so I was going by what I recall from movies of the time. Thanks for your more accuate information.
The 1968 movie "Bullitt", starring Steve McQueen, has a scene where McQueen is waiting for an LDX machine to transmit a mugshot. The implication in the scene is a 15 minute or so wait for a single b&w image at (I would guess) a good bit less than 200 dpi resolution.
@@jwilliam2255 thanks for the additional information. It gives a little more context and helps me to understand a little bit better where you're coming from. Have a blessed day!
C*ap - Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously.
Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
"City on the Edge of Forever" should be made into a serious full-length film.
Spock may have been scripted less dialog.....but he had lasting imprint.....with his logic.
I studied Logic in college...and I still don't have pointy ears! Maybe I should demand my money back!
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"Fans Never Noticed These Things About Star Trek"
Maybe because most of them were off-screen.
(8:46) ". . . the Oregonian Peace Treaty . . ."
Go, Beavers!
Even though Norman Spinrad might have been advanced enough to write emails in 1966, nobody was reading them at that point. I guess that means nobody got the memo…
Another incredible star trek video. This one was exceptional in somehow making Star Trek boring for the first time I've ever seen.
My claim to fame. 🤓
William Shatner blocked me on Twitter.
I guess he didn't like a joke I made suggesting he had a "thing" for Green Chicks.
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He was never involved with the Paramount version of the Wicked Witch from the West.
"A 1966 email...." LOL!!!!!!! That really cracked me up. Yeah, right! We had email back then!!! Sure man. :)
1:44 A September 1966 email? Really, dude? Even ARPANET wasn’t created until 1969, and that was well before email. Written by AI a little?
The term "email" is first documented in 1971, but the concept existed as early as 1965.
At science fiction conventions I used to see the bloopers. Would like to see those
There couldn't have been e-mail in 1966, Al Gore hadn't invented it yet!!
BAWAWAWAW
Oh, come on now! Al Gore did not invent email; he invented the internet! Get your conspiracy facts right.
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Not a Gore fan, but he actually was on the congressional panel that gave initial approval for the World Wide Web, and helped set the first guidelines for it's implementation. FACT!
@@jimdavis6833 And he never claimed to have "invented" the internet, that was a misquote.
The first movie when they wore Subaru emblems 🤣🤣🤣
Don't let IA rewrite your history!!!!!!
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12:15 Shatner was not invited to Takei's wedding,even though he;s a fantastic actor, and is aware of it." That's one of the wittiest barbs ever.
A I gobbledygook. What fans really didn't notice was is wasn't until Star Wars that film makers realized you don't a bra in space. Thank you very much.
0:30 No, TOS did NOT have the first interracial kiss on TV:
1951 _I Love Lucy_
1958 _The Ed Sullivan Show_
1959 _Sea Hunt_
1960 _Adventures in Paradise_
1966 _I Spy_
1967 _TOS_
1:47 “a September 1966 e-mail”
WoW they really where living in the future.
I think the bit about non-union costume work applied to some of the props work too. I recall reading somewhere that I think it was either a communicator or one of the styles of phaser for which several copies were made by a non-union fabricator in violation of union rules to solve some sort of production issue; they either needed the props turned around quickly, less expensively, or they needed to replace existing copies that were either breaking, broken, or otherwise not working out in filming.
There *_WAS NO EMAIL_* in 1966. How did that get in your script?
During the 90's I was with my fiance who introduced me to a more intensity around Star Trek. I had seen the movies, a few episodes but he was a true fan. There was in Independence Ohio a convention called Lagrange-a-con which focused on Star Trek actors for the various eras and I really enjoyed my time attending it each year we were together. The first year I was able to talk to the con staff and I learned about the actors and stories around their appearances, the staff liason, etc. Most actors were awesome I was told. One was not. William Shatner was very hard to work with because he was Such A Great Star and Deserved All the Attention. The liason had her hands full because the fans adored him so much (which is a true but sad statement) and he and they constantly caused trouble. One night as the con closed for the night she returned to her hatchback to find that some fan had stolen the seat where Shatner had rode around in in Independence. It was her and the con's last straw. Shatner was never invited back.
Meanwhile the actor for Odo Rene Auberjonois was on the other side of that spectrum. When he appeared, he was gracious and kind, and announced in the meeting hall/ballroom that he'd be signing autographs but he hoped the fans would buy the image he had brought with him of his character in the Little Mermaid. He went on to explain that Raul Julia was his best friend and to honor him Rene was donating the proceeds of these images and any money that was wanted to be shared from fans to the research of the disease that Raul passed from (complications of stomach cancer) to help others not go through what Raul had. I still have the photo and cherish that I was briefly able to meet him. Several other very sweet actors came through the con, and though I have all their signatures, it's Rene that means the most to me. Quite a long way from Shatner's "ME" attitude.
Shattner was such a narcissistic diva!
@@eagandereagander6471 IS. He's still with us.
1966 email?!? I know everyone has already mentioned it, but this is what happens when you're relying on AI to construct your RUclips videos. Why can't you have actual human beings doing the writing and reading?!
This is "fans never noticed Doctor Spock had pointed ears" level of content
This vid is so disorganized it is not worth watching.
Definitely. I downvoted it. I would like it if there were a place in the video heading itself where you could tell RUclips to never show any videos from the channel ever again.
@@SenileOtaku Google provide useful features such as channel blocking? But that would take work! /s
Captain's Log: I can't take anymore, I'm outta here and we're only 3 minutes in.
One thing that used to drive me crazy was the fact that they routinely "beamed down" to planets with far more mass than Earth. If they had done that, they would have been squished flat as a pancake. A 200 pound man would weigh 1000 pounds on a planet with only 5 times more mass than Earth. And I was only 11 years old!!
More mass than Earth? The mass is rarely stated. And often it's asteroids and not planets at all. They usually say "iron silicate" and "standard oxygen nitrogen atmosphere". Especially for "lifeless" planets with trees in the background.
Yes, I don't remember them announcing planet's mass, even in general terms like "20% more than earth".
@@davidwuhrer6704 Yeah, lifeless... except for microscopic pathogens that humans have absolutely zero immunity from. the whole crew dead in a couple days!
In all of the movies and episodes of Star Trek I've watched, I never noticed anyone going to the toilet, EVER!
Actually it wasn't losing money but a major hit. The way they recorded ratings in the 60's basically reported them backwards.
Saw Roddenberry talk once, and he said the show had a huge following, but the science fiction folks were not swayed by ads. So the show was dropped for not being able to sell products!
They reported numbers of viewers correctly, however they were not yet sophisticated enough to consider the age and income of the viewers. Teens and young adults are very desirable viewers for advertisers because they are still forming their adult tastes. Star Trek's demography was practically perfect
I remember during the season premiere, it was announced as being "adult science fiction" - which was the kiss of death for my Catholic parents letting me watch it as a kid.
Of course, much later, they didn't let me watch Carl Sagan's "Cosmos" either when I was back home with a degree in Geology but out of work.
Uhoh, those geologists probably told you that the earth is more than 6000 years old...
This video is really crap and filled with many inaccuracies. To read about some of them, see my comment before this one.
Nice trip down memory lane
After being a 1st generation trekkie for decades, imagine my surprise when I only noticed, fairly recently, that McCoy wears a pinky ring.
The original screenplay for "City on the Edge of Forever" can be found in a collection called "Six Science Fiction Plays". It's truly awful -- what Roddenberry did to it was a kindness, and it went on to win the Hugo Award.
Re: Women, sci-fi and the 60s, the first producer of "Doctor Who", which premiered on 11/23/63, was a woman -- Verity Lambert. Didn't have to disguise her name or anything. (Yes, it had the misfortune of premiering the day after JFK was shot. They replayed the first episode a week later.)
Yes, the televised version of City on the Edge of Forever won the Hugo, and Ellison's version won the Writer's Guild of American award. Some writers seem not to realize that their episode must fit into the characters already established in the show. Ellison's version featured an Enterprise crewman dealing drugs, and killing another crewman who threatened to report him, and character issues. And things that would not have been allowed to air on network television in the 1960s.
WOW!
Items only missed by people who were not paying attention. This vid is prerequisite to ST-TOS Basics 101 at best. Only helpful if your first question is, "What is 'Star Trek'?".
The AI narration is terrible, the scene transitions are vomit-inducing, there are many errors of fact. But apart from that this video is, like the curate's egg, good in parts.
Also the U.S. TV landscape with only 3 channels and having a Sci-Fi show on prime time??? People were surprised it lasted 3 seasons.
IIRC another forgettable sci-fi show called Time Tunnel was on opposite Star Trek and got slightly better ratings. I don't think I ever watched Star Trek until the reruns were in syndication.
10:34 ill take "things that never happened" for 500 alex.
E-mail did not exist in 1967! Paper memo, anyone? This is what happens when no one checks spelling or pronunciation. They go for the quick buck. I take it the AI is not real. "WORKING" LOL
Yep, AI is "artificial", so it is not real.
There was the only problem is there was nothing to send it on or to receive it. It was the thought that counts 😊
@@montanausa329 Oh well, Star Trek was set in the future. . .
It wasn't called email yet, but the concept existed.
There should be a lot more down votes on this this, guy's facts are completely wrong on almost everything he says
My email from 1933 specifically supersedes any future changes to this HR policy.
UNION GRIEVANCE!!!!!!
7:01 ".... "Shatner never saw himself as the tough Captain Kirk, despite "OVER 79" episodes and a few 'WATER FEATURES' (‽‽‽)"
Only Ai would quote an email from 1966
My son always trying to get under my skin saying things like star trek the slow motion picture, star trek III the search for more money lol
I thought it was "Star Trek: The Motionless Picture"
The first inter-racial kiss on TV did NOT occur on Star Trek. It occurred over 10 years earlier and William Shatner was part of it.
Here is a list of the earliest inter-racial kiss on TV:
Date Program Episode Participant Participant
11/16/1958 Ed Sullivan Show World of Suzie Wong William Shatner France Nuyen
8/11/1967 Star Trek Mirror, Mirror William Shatner Barbara Luna
12/11/1967 Movin' With Nancy Special Nancy Sinatra Sammy Davis, Jr.
6/6/1968 Star Trek Elaan of Troyius William Shatner France Nuyen
9/17/1968 Star Trek Plato's Stepchildren William Shatner Nichelle Nichols
On _American_ TV these predate TOS.
1951 I Love Lucy
1958 The Ed Sullivan Show
1959 Sea Hunt
1960 Adventures in Paradise
1966 I Spy
1967 TOS
On _UK_ TV these predate TOS:
1954 _The Seekers_
1955 _Othello_
1959 _Hot Summer Night_
1959 _Probation Officer_
1962 _You in Your Small Corner_
1964 _Emergency Ward 10_
two minutes into this and already done
I was a weekly church attendee when Star Trek was on. I definitely did not find Spock satanic looking. I thought of him as an alien man, like he was portrayed in the show.