@@ferociousgumby I've noticed. 12 milliion views (mostly bots) and 30 comments is another clue. Ad revenue fraud, but real humans who use adblockers are the problem...
When I was a kid the Roddenberrys were our neighbors in Los Abgeles. Gene Roddenberry was a Sergeant in the LAPD and was the speechwriter for the Chief of Police. He also wrote scripts for the TV show HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL with Richard Boone. He started Star trek later.
That's pretty cool! My grandfather worked with Rod Serling in the mid 50's, years before The Twilight Zone. I have a few scripts from The Storm Radio Program.
Have gun will travel was EXCELLENT scripts and dialogues. I wish richard boone could have been a character bad guy on Star Trek like that fat guy with the mustache, brilliant actors.
Okay, so in "The Enemy Within" there was no evil imposter Kirk; rather Kirk was divided into two versions of himself, each with different aspects of his personality, and this was clear to anyone who actually watched the episode. Also, "Yeoman" was Janice Rand's rank as noncommissioned Starfleet personnel, not her first name.
They talk about Nimoy and Shatner not liking each other but on screne they created one of the loved TEAMS in TV History. The Chemistry on stage between Spock, Kirk, McCoy and even Scotty was pure magic. Great Stuff, still loved today.
DC Fontana was just the tip of the iceberg. CJ Cherryh is a female author; the "H" at the end of her last name was added to make it sound less like a romance author's name - this was at her publisher's request. Andre' Norton is actually Andrea Norton (actually Alice Mary Norton, oops) - she was told to pick a male-sounding pen name. These two were amongst the very earliest SF authors. But at that time sexist attitudes even amongst the Sci Fi writers meant that female SF authors of this early period had to pick male pen names to get published. It took decades for publishers to accept that not only could female writers write good stories about something other than romance, and that their fans knew it as well.
I went through everything from Andre Norton that the library had when I was a young adult. It was immediately obvious to me that this was a female writer. I don't know who they thought they were fooling.
@@_XR40_ You are correct, I was running from memory instead of checking the facts. Still it doesn't change the truth that she had to use a male pen-name in order to get published.
"...If you've watched the video 'til here, that means you've enjoyed the video..." Or it means that it's Sunday afternoon, I've got a miserable cold and I'm just that bored....
@@LuciferMornStar Or telex. Everybody is forgetting telex. But I had telex in the seventies, and all big companies had telex. Much faster than telegrams, and no persons in between. Allowed and recognized at court. Telex was a big thing and completely forgotten.
The September 1966 Email. I kept telling everyone all my Kindergarten classmates that the show was way ahead of it's time, but they just kept eating paste.
Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously. Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
When the series came to Australia I was boarding in Brisbane, and a mere 21 yrs old, and luckily for me, the landlord ( a life long friend of myself and my parents who live in NZ), loved the cosmos as well, and watched the show with me, and we would compare notes afterwards, priceless . This was before the moon landings, but it was a great prelude. Many years later when my wife and I lived with her parents and siblings in Brisbane, I watched 'Cosmos' on TV, sadly it was just me, nobody else seemed interested, considering the household was 8 people it was a bit disappointing at the time. But I do remember earlier when I lived in Hervey Bay also in Qld, and underaged (18)! I used to know the time by looking at the southern cross, ( could not afford a watch on a 'Sugar cane cutting' income) as we had to 'go bush' for an illegal piss up. All my mates (and my girlfriend at the time, with her parents lock down time) were impressed, after that t really cemented my love of astronomy. P.S. I do now own a watch, or should I say a smart phone. I also am the presi of our local astro club, lots of fun.
According to Herb Solow’s book, Alexander Courage didn’t know about Roddenberry writing lyrics to get half the royalties. It was a dirty trick and Courage never worked for Roddenberry again.
Nichelle Nichols was DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!!! The racism of Hollywood that didnt allow that beautiful woman to become greater than she was . STILL an ICON !!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
To be fair she coudln't act anyway. If she invested in some acting lessons maybe. I am also a big fan of hers and she was in some movies but not many lines/
Lately all of these series info things and almost everything else on RUclips is written and spoken by AI. AI just isn't that smart yet, but too many people are just too lazy to care.
As soon as the "narrator" pronounced "Adonis" as "Ad-oh-nice" I figured the whole narration was fake. I don't need to waste my time with shit AI. If I want to hear computer-generated voices, I have a WHOLE lot of Vocaloid music to listen to. Downvoted.
@@SenileOtaku Agreed, supposedly a real human decides what the subject should be, then leaves the investigation, script-writing, exposition and all to the AI, and they just aren't that smart yet. What's crazy is that the AI can't even learn from itself. It almost never pronounces a name the same way twice.
Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously. Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
6:58 At a Star Trek convention, Shatner mentioned that he saw a rerun of the "Balance of Terror" episode. By that time he had forgotten all the details of the episode. He found it quite good.
I thought it was really funny when Shatner had his roast and addressed George Takia's coming out. He said, "Everyone was kind of hard on you tonight. Boy, they really ripped you a new one! But I'm sure you'll put it to good use!"
The split finger Vulcan salute was from Leonard's boyhood which he incorporated into the episode "AMOK TIME". The Live Long & Prosper phrase was not from Leonard's boyhood, that was written by Mr. Theodore Sturges. What you said of Leonard Nimoy & William Shatner's breakup of their friendship is what is rumored. But also, William Shatner was also in Florida for a Charity Fundraiser. So, he said he didn't go to the funeral. William's daughter went in his place. When talking about the Shatner & Takei feud you need to give both sides, Mr. Shatner said he wasn't invited to Mr. Takei's wedding, Takei said he was. Who knows? Everything on the feuds are rumors. That's between Shatner, Takei & Leonard's family. It was DeForest, Leonard & William who developed Tinnitus and I believe Leonard said it was during the filming of "The Arena" not "The Apple". You are wrong, Paramount wanted Leonard to return as Spock, Leonard wanted to direct. He quoted " You need two things; you need someone to play Spock and someone to direct the movie. I can do both." They gave him the directing job & he gave them Spock. He went on to direct Star Trek 4 which is one of the highest grossing Star Trek movies.
I've heard that a Shatner/Takei feud may have been fueled by Takei's resentment at Paramount's decision to drop a plan for movies or a series focusing on Sulu as Captain of the Excelsior as well by Shatner's arrogant treatment of his TOS cast mates during the production of Generations.
@@TLowGrrreen From what I understand Shatner/Takei feud started back during the original series. None of them really got alone with Mr. Shatner. If he didn't get his way, since he was the star, he would go to the director or Gene Roddenberry and complain; they gave into him. He was extremely jealous of Leonard's popularity as Spock (he was getting more fan mail than Mr. Shatner) and would steal his lines. Roddenberry mentioned it to Issaic Asimov and was told to make them inseparable. That's what they did. That's why you see where Kirk is Spock is with him. After time the two became close friends. The only thing I ever heard Mr. Nimoy say about it was the rivalry was like two brothers competing for the same thing. In interviews Mr. Shatner claimed he never really knew Mr. Takei, he only saw him on the set when they had lines together, which wasn't often. LLAP
It did deal with social issues, but that's why I got tired of it in the late '60's. I wanted to see something different from what I saw on the News at that time.
Not a Gore fan, but he actually was on the congressional panel that gave initial approval for the World Wide Web, and helped set the first guidelines for it's implementation. FACT!
I would think so too, but you never know. For example, many Genz's and late Millennials love the latest versions of 'Mad Max' and 'Blade Runner 2043', but have never seen the original films. It's sad, because 'BR 43' in no way compares to the original, nor does that MM movie they did a few years back. I watched the Logan's Run tv show when I was a kid, and it didn't compare at all to the feature film, and, IIRC, only ran for one season on late Saturday mornings.
@@samr.england613 Yes. My cousin, Farrah Fawcett was in the Logan's Run movie, and I tried to catch everything she was in. She played Holly, the assistant to the doctor in the New You. (We shared a great grandmother out of Texarkana, AR).
@@antonnym214 Hi. Yes, I'm well aware of Farrah's portrayal of Holly! Over the years, I've watched 'Logan's Run' well over 20 times, no exaggeration. Everybody loved Farrah! So sorry she died relatively young.
@@ThomasLahn the way you pronounce a word is not always the way it is spelled. But these videos using A.I to read almost all have at least one or two words mispronounced
@@ThomasLahn But not ADD on nick. A mythic character in Greek literature. A beautiful man loved by Persephone, whose name became a term for a man of exceptional beauty and desirability.
Yes , there was. Grow a brain. Internal to IT and military mostly but it was email and the name was coined then. A lot happened before Tim Webster came up with the World Wide Web and made computer based comms accessible to the greater public. BBS systems werre the next stage and that (AOL anyone?) was huge well before the net 'happened' As usual the kiddies are completely ignorant of what happened before they were born and, also as usual, they are dense enough to advertise their ignorance. 😏 -- Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously. Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
Needs a section on Wah Chang, a distant relative of mine. He was a special effects guy in Hollywood. He designed and built the salt monster, the Gorn and the tricorder and communicator. I don’t think he e er got a credit for these iconic items. Many, many years ago, I had a brief conversation with Gene Roddenberry and asked him about my “Uncle Wah.” He recognized the name immediately and remarked that it was amazing how he moved around - he contracted adult polio and had to use heavy arm braces to get around. He also got the Oscar for “The Time Machine,” for his company, Excelsior. An amazing man.
After being a 1st generation trekkie for decades, imagine my surprise when I only noticed, fairly recently, that McCoy wears a pinky ring. The original screenplay for "City on the Edge of Forever" can be found in a collection called "Six Science Fiction Plays". It's truly awful -- what Roddenberry did to it was a kindness, and it went on to win the Hugo Award. Re: Women, sci-fi and the 60s, the first producer of "Doctor Who", which premiered on 11/23/63, was a woman -- Verity Lambert. Didn't have to disguise her name or anything. (Yes, it had the misfortune of premiering the day after JFK was shot. They replayed the first episode a week later.)
Thank you for this. Lately I've had trouble finding things to hold my attention or carry my interest for more than a moment or two. This was entirely interesting all the way through.
Fun Fact: I read the 1968 book about star trek, and NONE of the mens trousers has pockets.. The men also complained about the cheap boot shoes they had, the heels kept falling off. Also the book said that the lead actor was paid 5 grand a year for the first year and 5500 for the second year.? A great book to read.
Functional email didn't exist until the mid 1980s. In 1966 we were still using fax machines that worked over an acoustic coupler ... maybe 110 bits per second on a good day. 20 minutes or more to transmit one page of very low resolution text.
You said still using except for the fact that they were just starting to use them. The Long Distance Xerography (LDX) machine as it was originally known was not invented until 1964 by Xerox and wasn't in widespread use for a couple of years.
@@mikeslater6246 In 1966 I was 12 so I was going by what I recall from movies of the time. Thanks for your more accuate information. The 1968 movie "Bullitt", starring Steve McQueen, has a scene where McQueen is waiting for an LDX machine to transmit a mugshot. The implication in the scene is a 15 minute or so wait for a single b&w image at (I would guess) a good bit less than 200 dpi resolution.
@@jwilliam2255 thanks for the additional information. It gives a little more context and helps me to understand a little bit better where you're coming from. Have a blessed day!
C*ap - Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously. Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
The divided two Kirks were not good versus evil. You missed the whole point of the episode. What you called the "Good Kirk" is actually the "Civilized Kirk." What you label the "Evil Kirk" is actually the "Feral Kirk" motivated by his "Id" to use a psychological reference. The Feral Kirk is only Evil if you project your own judgments upon him. Acting on one's Feral desires is considered uncivilized hence as a civilized empathetic being you label the Feral Kirk Evil. In truth Man's innate Feral nature served to keep us alive as a species before the ideals and institutions of civilization took root in our collective minds. Only today when feral natures serve survivalist ideals & war making goals are our primal drives reduced in rank to "Evil!"
Watched the show as a child and felt l learnd a lot of various forms of information. Humanity's rise to a higher consciousness society on earth. It was not talked about, you could see the differences if you paid attention and thought about it. Human compassion, psychology, quantum physics, the problems with prejudice and more.
I think the bit about non-union costume work applied to some of the props work too. I recall reading somewhere that I think it was either a communicator or one of the styles of phaser for which several copies were made by a non-union fabricator in violation of union rules to solve some sort of production issue; they either needed the props turned around quickly, less expensively, or they needed to replace existing copies that were either breaking, broken, or otherwise not working out in filming.
As a kid I was mesmerized by how real Star Trek was. Compared to the 1930's reruns of Flash Gordon. The idea of space travel seemed normal. But one part never changes the woman were dressed as risque as the studio would allow.
I was a weekly church attendee when Star Trek was on. I definitely did not find Spock satanic looking. I thought of him as an alien man, like he was portrayed in the show.
Shatner nissed Nimoys Funeral because he was working somethin like a thou ks away and couldn't cancel. Where would we have been without the redoubtable D.C. Fontana, nice writin m8!!!
I have all 13 Star Trek movies from "The Motion Picture" to "Star Trek Beyond". Out of all this, I believe "The Wrath of Khan" is the absolute best of all, and I think Ricardo Montalban had a lot to do with it. Harve Bennett got it right.
The Original Star Trek episode Bread and Circuses is about a modern society which televises life and death gladiatorial games that regulate the population. It is uncannily similar to the novel and films of The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins. Perhaps along with The Lottery a short story by Shirley Jackson? Star Trek had an impact on her story.
Did one of the original authors really send a 1966 email? How can we get a copy of that email? What system does that email run on? Was that on the AOL’66 service? If this is true, maybe there was technology involved with Star Trek that no one knew about.
That's not too far from the dawn of networking. Just 3 years really. But 3 years is still 3 years I suppose. Email dates a bit later than TCP/IP though. It would be 5 years after 1966 when that occurred. It could have happened sooner if someone had just done it. Yet no one did.
ARPAnet was not the first computer network. And it didn't standardise on TCP/IP (the internet) until years later, and the internet wasn't the first (or only) computer network either, It was based on another network protocol called Cyclades. Meanwhile, electronic messages had been sent between computer users ever since multi-user systems existed. And sending them between systems was the reason why computer networks were built in the first place.
@@davidwuhrer6704 so, you're trying to say that Al Gore didn't invent the Internet? I don't know about that. Next you'll be telling me that he's lying about climate change too.
Nimoy didn’t make the gesture; he was the youngster. The change to minidresses was at the instance of Grace Lee Whitney, who thought the baggy tunics and pants didn’t show off her figure. Men only wore minidresses on The Next Generations. The rational, detached personality was part of Number One’s personality in the pilot, switched to Spock in the series, when she was eliminated.
Hi, It was not the first interracial kiss on TV. There is some debate about the first interracial kiss on television, but here are some of the earliest examples: Emergency Ward 10 (1964): This British soap opera featured an interracial kiss in July 1964. Source icon You in Your Small Corner (1962): A British drama broadcast on ITV featured an interracial kiss in June 1962. Source icon Othello (1955): A televised production of Shakespeare's play featured interracial kisses between white and Black actors in December 1955. It's important to note that these early examples often faced controversy and censorship. The famous kiss between William Shatner and Nichelle Nichols on Star Trek in 1968 is widely recognized as a significant moment, but it wasn't the first.
I was going to mention the Lucy-Desi thing. Also, Sammy Davis Jr. had a kiss with a white woman, but I have forgotten whom. It predated the Kirk-Uhura kiss. Quick question, which episode came first, Plato's Step Children, or Helen of Troyis? That actress was from south east Asia, I think Vietnamese, but again, not sure
A I gobbledygook. What fans really didn't notice was is wasn't until Star Wars that film makers realized you don't a bra in space. Thank you very much.
Even though Norman Spinrad might have been advanced enough to write emails in 1966, nobody was reading them at that point. I guess that means nobody got the memo…
There were no emails back in September of 1966. Shatner receiving the most lines had nothing to do with Norman Spinrad, who was not an author of Star Trek. It was in Shattner's contract. Ellison's version of "City on the Edge of Forever," is bad Star Trek. He had crew members selling drugs, and the Guardian was 12 Giants, making it too expensive to film. Roddenberry had to rewrite so many Teleplays (not Screenplays) because they weren't up to the quality he wanted. Roddenberry required his teleplays to be 25-50% more than the typical teleplay on television at the time. Roddenberry did not have to choose between Spoke and Number One. NBC ordered Roddenberry to get rid of Number One because they knew he was committing adultery with the actress. Courage and Roddenberry did not work out a deal where they split royalties. Courage wrote the music, and Roddenberry quickly wrote some terrible lyrics so that under the laws of the day he could share in the royalties. Star Trek actually had very good ratings until its third season. The bigger was never cut by more than 60% or even close to that. Live Long and Prosper has NOTHING to do with Orthodox Judaism. It's the hand sign that comes from Orthodox Judaism. Guys never wore mini-skirts during the original series, and it was both actresses Grace Lee Whitney and Celeste Yarnall who asked the skirts be shortened. "The Cage" was never, ever going to the picked up. It was NBC's test to see if a TV studio, Desilu, could produce an hour-long episode each week. Desilu was known for 1/2-hour episodes at the time. The second pilot was to see if Desilu could produce an hour-long episode on budget. Dorothy Fontana chose to use the name D. C. Fontana as she had sold teleplays to television long before Star Trek. Paramount was contractually required to use Roddenberry as a consultant as he owned 1/2 of Star Trek. As Star Trek II finished filming, Leonard Nimoy started having second thoughts about the death of Spock. Nimoy was part of the writing crew for Star Trek III so Spock's return was something Nimoy always was a part of.
@@musicloverme3993 No. Thanks for asking the question for clarification. Roddenberry wanted his teleplays to be of greater quality. He wanted the plots to be better, the prose to be better and the themes to be better. That's why Star Trek became a classic.
i'm 60 and i have heard plenty of these stories only the characters who experienced them keep changing and the stories keep changing. one example is shatner had tinnitus and it was from the arena episode.
Have other fans noticed this? At the beginning of The Cloud Minders episode, when Spock and Kirk have just been captured with a lasso by the Troglytes, there's a whole line of dialog where we hear Kirk speaking but Shatner's mouth doesn't move at all?
No, Gene didn't remove Number One for Spock. The network executives got rid of Majel Barrett, the actress who played Number One, when they found out that Gene was married and having an affair with her. They feared the scandal it could ignite and how that could sink the show. Gene later snuck her back onto the show as Nurse Chapel. He later divorced his wife and married Majel. I stopped watching this video and down voted it due to this as it shows its creator doesn't know what he is talking about.
No, they wanted to get rid of Number One, they didn't like the character. A logical woman? Preposterous! They encouraged Roddenberry to do "reasonable casting" instead. Which is why the (originally funny native) alien became the logical first officer. Barrett died her hair and reauditioned. She was cast as the nurse, and Roddenberry didn't even recognise her at first. He later said he kept the alien and married the woman, it wouldn't have been legal the other way around. The rumour that he had been dating her during the shooting of the pilot was started decades later.
@@davidwuhrer6704 I see you've drank the Gene Kool-Aid. Both network executives say she was dropped when they found out married Gene was having an affair with her. They said they would have also dropped Nicole if they had known Gene was doing her too, which he was. Gene later lied about it a number of different ways. One of which you now believe. Gene created a great TV show. Period. But that doesn't mean he wasn't wirh his flaws. If you want to know even worse, research his reputation at Star Trek conventions.
I didn't take that remark from Spock to Yoeman Rand in that way at all. To me, it was saying that Kirk, deep down had cardinal desires for her. He never showed them but they came out when his id was out of control. The whole point is that we all have desires that must stay in check. What was also fascinating about that episode was that the "all-good" Kirk could not command. He needed some ego and aggression to make command decisions.
People need to do some research before questioning the "email" issue. That's my take, I don't know all there is to know. Computer networking has been possible since before Star Trek started. This I do know. I've programmed as a hobby since the mid-70's. I know some about the history of networking before the programming bug bit me. The ability to send files (such as text files) to remote computers and download files from remote computers has been in place and became mainstream with technology known as Arpanet, the predecessor to the Internet. In fact, to this day, the same technology used back when Star Trek started is still built into the latest Windows operating system and other operating systems, allowing the bypassing of nameservers (DNS) and accessing remote computers directly. You just have to know about it and like in the olden days, be able to manually program it yourself (type text into several intuitively-structured system text files). "Email sent" was surely a poor choice of term in this video, a better term would probably be "a text notification sent out" or even more on target "a text file sent out." The first actual email protocols were not developed until the mid 1980's or so.
Items only missed by people who were not paying attention. This vid is prerequisite to ST-TOS Basics 101 at best. Only helpful if your first question is, "What is 'Star Trek'?".
1966 email?!? I know everyone has already mentioned it, but this is what happens when you're relying on AI to construct your RUclips videos. Why can't you have actual human beings doing the writing and reading?!
I like to see what the original Screenplay of City on the Edge of Forever. I like to see how different the screenplay was from the actual Episode. It was a great Episode considered probably best of the TOS.
@@musicloverme3993 - Can you clarify your comment please? Do you mean tht the Doomsday Machine was a great episode which I agree with you. Or do you mean the Original screenplay for that episode was different than what was finally produced?
The first inter-racial kiss on TV did NOT occur on Star Trek. It occurred over 10 years earlier and William Shatner was part of it. Here is a list of the earliest inter-racial kiss on TV: Date Program Episode Participant Participant 11/16/1958 Ed Sullivan Show World of Suzie Wong William Shatner France Nuyen 8/11/1967 Star Trek Mirror, Mirror William Shatner Barbara Luna 12/11/1967 Movin' With Nancy Special Nancy Sinatra Sammy Davis, Jr. 6/6/1968 Star Trek Elaan of Troyius William Shatner France Nuyen 9/17/1968 Star Trek Plato's Stepchildren William Shatner Nichelle Nichols
On _American_ TV these predate TOS. 1951 I Love Lucy 1958 The Ed Sullivan Show 1959 Sea Hunt 1960 Adventures in Paradise 1966 I Spy 1967 TOS On _UK_ TV these predate TOS: 1954 _The Seekers_ 1955 _Othello_ 1959 _Hot Summer Night_ 1959 _Probation Officer_ 1962 _You in Your Small Corner_ 1964 _Emergency Ward 10_
0:30 No, TOS did NOT have the first interracial kiss on TV: 1951 _I Love Lucy_ 1958 _The Ed Sullivan Show_ 1959 _Sea Hunt_ 1960 _Adventures in Paradise_ 1966 _I Spy_ 1967 _TOS_
The very first rudimentary ‘email’ was via M.I.T., in 1965. Not sure what provider(s), and what structure, the ‘email’ would have existed in 1966? Definitely not the ‘email’, we know of today.
D.C. Fontana wrote my favorite(and the only one I've actually read...)* Star Trek novel, Vulcan's Glory. It takes place during the Captaincy of Christopher Pike and chronicles the first voyage with new crewman Spock and Scott. In it she explores Pike and #1's personal backgrounds and really delves into the life of Spock and Vulcan culture. It's not the type of story that would translate well on the 'big screen'. But I would love to see a talented crew, with the right funding and NO modern socio-political message to ruin it (Discovery/Picard/Star Wars sequel drek, etc.), make a solid two parter, just sticking to the story in the book. *I have read a few ST movie and series episode adaptations as a kid, but never had the interest for straight novels. A story based on Pike's Enterprise intrigued me though so I'm very glad I picked it up.
Give a shot to Ford's _How Much For Just The Planet?_ for light entertainment. I believe you won't be sorry. Even if the late author believed Scotty ate oatcakes with syrup.
They worked together solidly for three years, and sporadically on the movies for how long? And they've spent decades feuding. They need to grow up finally.
@@mikeslater6246 Yes I know, I've watched similar things with my own family. One of my great uncles screwed my grandma out of her inheritance. It wasn't worth a lot, it was mostly just stuff with sentimental value, and this guy wouldn't have understood the point of that. But great grandma promised it to grandma and he refused to let her have it. Their feud lasted until they were both near death, only then could they let it go. Got a similar thing going on between two uncles. And to be honest, I have a very short list of people who hurt me so much I'll never forgive them. But that's mostly a sort of one-sided feud. None of them knows about it because I'm the only person who could tell them, and I won't talk to them. Just seeing them makes me seethe with so much anger I have to leave the room. I am certain none of them remembers the thing they did, but I'll never forget.
As to the lyrics for the theme song that Gene wrote, they are actually quite lovely and appropro. And quite singable (by me), but especially by Nichelle Nichols, who they should have let record it for the end of one of the movies.
Definitely. I downvoted it. I would like it if there were a place in the video heading itself where you could tell RUclips to never show any videos from the channel ever again.
@@mikeslater6246 : "Identifying the first interracial kiss on television is a subject of debate. Historians noted that interracial kisses between blacks and whites were depicted on British television during live plays as early as 1959, and on subsequent soap operas like Emergency Ward 10. In the United States, interracial kisses were shown on I Love Lucy between the Cuban Desi Arnaz and Caucasian Lucille Ball, who was both his onscreen and real-life wife, in the 1950s. However, despite Arnaz and Ball being frequently described as an "interracial couple", "Hispanic" is not always considered to be a race. Arnaz is today considered by some to be a white man of Cuban ancestry. The United States Census Bureau uses the ethnonyms Hispanic or Latino to refer to a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race; the Census Bureau states, "People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be any race." In 1958, a decade prior to "Plato's Stepchildren", Shatner himself shared an interracial kiss when he kissed France Nuyen, a person of Asian ancestry, during a scene in the Broadway production of The World of Suzie Wong, which was shown in an episode of The Ed Sullivan Show. Other shows such as Adventures in Paradise and I Spy featured kisses between white male actors and Asian actresses. Sammy Davis Jr. kissed Nancy Sinatra on the cheek on a December 1967 episode of her televised special Movin' with Nancy. On Star Trek, in the first season episode "What Are Little Girls Made Of?", first broadcast in October 1966, there is a friendly kiss between Uhura, played by Nichols and Christine Chapel, played by Majel Barrett. In the February 16, 1967 episode "Space Seed, Mexican actor Ricardo Montalban, playing the genetically engineered supercriminal Khan Noonien Singh, kisses Madlyn Rhue. In the second season episode "Mirror, Mirror," first broadcast on October 6, 1967, Kirk and Lt. Marlena Moreau, played by BarBara Luna, an actress of Filipino-European ancestry, kiss on the lips. Meanwhile, Mirror-Sulu, played by Japanese-American actor George Takei, kisses Uhura's neck. According to Syracuse University Professor of television and popular culture Robert Thompson, irrespective of which interracial kiss was the first, Thompson observed, the one in "Plato's Stepchildren" is the one considered a historical milestone." Is this enough 'evidence'?
@@mikeslater6246 Gee if only we could SEARCH for the answer: 1951 I Love Lucy 1958 The Ed Sullivan Show 1959 Sea Hunt 1960 Adventures in Paradise 1966 I Spy 1967 TOS
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I'd like to get a copy of an email from 1966
Guess I am not the only one who caught that!😂
Yeah. Humans had barely begun to fathom just WTH is a facsimile transmission in 1966. And the World Wide Web had yet to be conceived.
It was a famous massive email campaign by fans that gave us a third season.
Perhaps it came from the episode, 'Tomorrow Is Yesterday'. (S1 Ep20)
Star Trek was futuristic and predicted many things that came true...but not THAT futuristic!
"A September 1966 email..." Wow, Star Trek traveled through time in the 1960's to send out an email to the nonexistent internet.
Beat me to it.
Stopped watching at that point
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Lol good point. I missed that..
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Yeeeeeaaaaah...that's what happens when you rely on AI to write and speak your script.
At 11:34....."Who morns for ---AD-ON-EYES" ??????????? STOP USING A.I. VOICE-OVERS, It's pathetic !!!
Also ma-KEES-mo
It's a bot channel.
Is there any reason why somebody can't just read it? At least they would pronounce names and words correctly and pause speaking at the correct place.
@@ferociousgumby I've noticed. 12 milliion views (mostly bots) and 30 comments is another clue. Ad revenue fraud, but real humans who use adblockers are the problem...
I automatically thumbs-down AI-voiced videos.
When I was a kid the Roddenberrys were our neighbors in Los Abgeles. Gene Roddenberry was a Sergeant in the LAPD and was the speechwriter for the Chief of Police. He also wrote scripts for the TV show HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL with Richard Boone. He started Star trek later.
That's pretty cool! My grandfather worked with Rod Serling in the mid 50's, years before The Twilight Zone. I have a few scripts from The Storm Radio Program.
Have gun will travel was EXCELLENT scripts and dialogues. I wish richard boone could have been a character bad guy on Star Trek like that fat guy with the mustache, brilliant actors.
@@DIOSpeedDemon Harry Mudd?!
@@ChesapeakeBayBrian399 THATS IT!!!!
@@DIOSpeedDemon I know it is, I got the orig scripts! Lol
Okay, so in "The Enemy Within" there was no evil imposter Kirk; rather Kirk was divided into two versions of himself, each with different aspects of his personality, and this was clear to anyone who actually watched the episode.
Also, "Yeoman" was Janice Rand's rank as noncommissioned Starfleet personnel, not her first name.
Obviously this is AI script and voice over. It's horrible. Sounds like they've emulated a voice from the 1970s which is completely odd.
It is NOT TRUE that Nimoy began drinking due to "pressure from the public." It was LONG HOURS on the set. And Shatner WAS invited to Takei's wedding.
Did he go?
They talk about Nimoy and Shatner not liking each other but on screne they created one of the loved TEAMS in TV History. The Chemistry on stage between Spock, Kirk, McCoy and even Scotty was pure magic. Great Stuff, still loved today.
Nah the power 3 was Kirk Spock and Bones.
Nimoy didn't want to see Shatner while on his death bed has more to do with avoiding the sadness of it. It is not that they didn't like each other.
@@Sidicas Um. . . scratch that, reverse it.
@@Sidicas and yeah I been to both their Residences, they hated each other
3:55 Yeoman is her rank, not her name.
The first name was Janice
@@albundy6008 No, her name stage name was LEGS YEOMAN! 23 SKIDDOO!
@@albundy6008 Janice Rand
AI not reliable yet, and perhaps never. Not exactly I...
Never mind the rank, look at those legs 🤯
DC Fontana was just the tip of the iceberg. CJ Cherryh is a female author; the "H" at the end of her last name was added to make it sound less like a romance author's name - this was at her publisher's request. Andre' Norton is actually Andrea Norton (actually Alice Mary Norton, oops) - she was told to pick a male-sounding pen name. These two were amongst the very earliest SF authors. But at that time sexist attitudes even amongst the Sci Fi writers meant that female SF authors of this early period had to pick male pen names to get published. It took decades for publishers to accept that not only could female writers write good stories about something other than romance, and that their fans knew it as well.
I went through everything from Andre Norton that the library had when I was a young adult. It was immediately obvious to me that this was a female writer. I don't know who they thought they were fooling.
@@surferdude4487The same for me. I read all of her stuff in 5th and 6th grade. I just wondered what her parents were thinking, naming her Andre.
@@ann-mariemeyers9978 Maybe they thought she would be a giant author.
"...Andre' Norton is actually Andrea Norton..." Nope. try again. (Hint: Try Alice Mary Norton)
@@_XR40_ You are correct, I was running from memory instead of checking the facts. Still it doesn't change the truth that she had to use a male pen-name in order to get published.
"...If you've watched the video 'til here, that means you've enjoyed the video..." Or it means that it's Sunday afternoon, I've got a miserable cold and I'm just that bored....
Hey, in bed with a cold, watching TV/video... hot tea & chicken soup, w/saltine crackers
Too sick.... to click on... "How to knit a cat sweater video... on right side of monitor. (imagine the Shatneresque pauses)
I only watched til there cuz I was waiting for it to get good...
"...a September 1966 email"??? Star Trek was futuristic, but no email existed in 1966.
Sure, but they were called telegrams!
@@LuciferMornStar OK
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Memo?
@@stephenlupoli ...and the old mimeograph !!
@@LuciferMornStar Or telex. Everybody is forgetting telex. But I had telex in the seventies, and all big companies had telex. Much faster than telegrams, and no persons in between. Allowed and recognized at court. Telex was a big thing and completely forgotten.
The September 1966 Email. I kept telling everyone all my Kindergarten classmates that the show was way ahead of it's time, but they just kept eating paste.
A prophet is never honored in his own land.
I wasn't into paste but I sure ate a lot of crayolas!
Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously.
Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
When the series came to Australia I was boarding in Brisbane, and a mere 21 yrs old, and luckily for me, the landlord ( a life long friend of myself and my parents who live in NZ), loved the cosmos as well, and watched the show with me, and we would compare notes afterwards, priceless . This was before the moon landings, but it was a great prelude. Many years later when my wife and I lived with her parents and siblings in Brisbane, I watched 'Cosmos' on TV, sadly it was just me, nobody else seemed interested, considering the household was 8 people it was a bit disappointing at the time. But I do remember earlier when I lived in Hervey Bay also in Qld, and underaged (18)! I used to know the time by looking at the southern cross, ( could not afford a watch on a 'Sugar cane cutting' income) as we had to 'go bush' for an illegal piss up. All my mates (and my girlfriend at the time, with her parents lock down time) were impressed, after that t really cemented my love of astronomy. P.S. I do now own a watch, or should I say a smart phone. I also am the presi of our local astro club, lots of fun.
@@davesteadman1226 No matter the color, they all tasted the same.
I'm pretty sure that the monologue was written by A.I. and the TTS does not know how to pronounce many of the words.
@@ferociousgumby
That long...?! A lifetime to an Android ...
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I have heard of them... Creepy!!
@@ferociousgumby Spock, is that you?
@@musicloverme3993 FASCINATING.
Wait, you mean it's not the Oreganian Treaty?
Number One was accused by Vina of being a walking computer. Years later, she was the voice of the ships computer. 😅
Corporate restructure. Also called, right sizing these days.
So, flying computer vs walking.
She was nurse Chapel too.
Well spotted 🖖🤓
Majel Barrett also played Deanna Troi's mother on TNG for 104 episodes, and she did the ship's computer voice on every sequel until her death in 2008.
"Oregonian Peace Treaty"..... Signed on planet Portlandia? 😅
This AI TTS voice is simply embarrassing. 😮
And the AI writing was better?
At science fiction conventions I used to see the bloopers. Would like to see those
According to Herb Solow’s book, Alexander Courage didn’t know about Roddenberry writing lyrics to get half the royalties. It was a dirty trick and Courage never worked for Roddenberry again.
The guy in 1966 jumped on the laptop and emailed.....LOL
Nichelle Nichols was DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!!! The racism of Hollywood that didnt allow that beautiful woman to become greater than she was . STILL an ICON !!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
To be fair she coudln't act anyway. If she invested in some acting lessons maybe. I am also a big fan of hers and she was in some movies but not many lines/
Nichelle was stunning compared to the masculine race-swapped "Uhura" of Strange New Worlds.
It's not Oregonian Peace Treaty. It is pronounced organian. (or-GAIN-ian)
Lately all of these series info things and almost everything else on RUclips is written and spoken by AI. AI just isn't that smart yet, but too many people are just too lazy to care.
TTS has been a thing since at least the early 1980s when I first dabbled with it. It hasn't been improved much in the decades since. 😮
As soon as the "narrator" pronounced "Adonis" as "Ad-oh-nice" I figured the whole narration was fake. I don't need to waste my time with shit AI. If I want to hear computer-generated voices, I have a WHOLE lot of Vocaloid music to listen to.
Downvoted.
@@SenileOtaku Agreed, supposedly a real human decides what the subject should be, then leaves the investigation, script-writing, exposition and all to the AI, and they just aren't that smart yet. What's crazy is that the AI can't even learn from itself. It almost never pronounces a name the same way twice.
@@WickedPrince3D RUclips is too busy harrassing firearms channels and promoting gun control to incorporate the correct pronunciation of many words.
“September 1966 email”?!
Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously.
Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
6:58 At a Star Trek convention, Shatner mentioned that he saw a rerun of the "Balance of Terror" episode. By that time he had forgotten all the details of the episode. He found it quite good.
I thought it was really funny when Shatner had his roast and addressed George Takia's coming out.
He said, "Everyone was kind of hard on you tonight. Boy, they really ripped you a new one! But I'm sure you'll put it to good use!"
The split finger Vulcan salute was from Leonard's boyhood which he incorporated into the episode "AMOK TIME". The Live Long & Prosper phrase was not from Leonard's boyhood, that was written by Mr. Theodore Sturges. What you said of Leonard Nimoy & William Shatner's breakup of their friendship is what is rumored. But also, William Shatner was also in Florida for a Charity Fundraiser. So, he said he didn't go to the funeral. William's daughter went in his place. When talking about the Shatner & Takei feud you need to give both sides, Mr. Shatner said he wasn't invited to Mr. Takei's wedding, Takei said he was. Who knows? Everything on the feuds are rumors. That's between Shatner, Takei & Leonard's family. It was DeForest, Leonard & William who developed Tinnitus and I believe Leonard said it was during the filming of "The Arena" not "The Apple". You are wrong, Paramount wanted Leonard to return as Spock, Leonard wanted to direct. He quoted " You need two things; you need someone to play Spock and someone to direct the movie. I can do both." They gave him the directing job & he gave them Spock. He went on to direct Star Trek 4 which is one of the highest grossing Star Trek movies.
Good post!!!🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
I've heard that a Shatner/Takei feud may have been fueled by Takei's resentment at Paramount's decision to drop a plan for movies or a series focusing on Sulu as Captain of the Excelsior as well by Shatner's arrogant treatment of his TOS cast mates during the production of Generations.
@@TLowGrrreen From what I understand Shatner/Takei feud started back during the original series. None of them really got alone with Mr. Shatner. If he didn't get his way, since he was the star, he would go to the director or Gene Roddenberry and complain; they gave into him. He was extremely jealous of Leonard's popularity as Spock (he was getting more fan mail than Mr. Shatner) and would steal his lines. Roddenberry mentioned it to Issaic Asimov and was told to make them inseparable. That's what they did. That's why you see where Kirk is Spock is with him. After time the two became close friends. The only thing I ever heard Mr. Nimoy say about it was the rivalry was like two brothers competing for the same thing. In interviews Mr. Shatner claimed he never really knew Mr. Takei, he only saw him on the set when they had lines together, which wasn't often. LLAP
@@lewiscarey1593 Thank you. I've been a Star Trek fan since the beginning. Especially Leonard Nimoy/Spock.
The split-finger hand sign is a Jewish blessing though.
The best thing I remember about the initial series is the uniforms of the female crew members.
Star Trek was ahead of its time as it commonly wrote into the program social issues that were common to the general public.
That's what great sci-fi does!
It did deal with social issues, but that's why I got tired of it in the late '60's.
I wanted to see something different from what I saw on the News at that time.
There couldn't have been e-mail in 1966, Al Gore hadn't invented it yet!!
BAWAWAWAW
Oh, come on now! Al Gore did not invent email; he invented the internet! Get your conspiracy facts right.
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Not a Gore fan, but he actually was on the congressional panel that gave initial approval for the World Wide Web, and helped set the first guidelines for it's implementation. FACT!
D.C. Fontana wrote several episodes for my favorite series, Logan's Run.
I do hope you've seen the original Logan's Run feature film with Michael York as Logan. There's never been a movie like it.
@@samr.england613 willing to bet money that he has.
I would think so too, but you never know. For example, many Genz's and late Millennials love the latest versions of 'Mad Max' and 'Blade Runner 2043', but have never seen the original films. It's sad, because 'BR 43' in no way compares to the original, nor does that MM movie they did a few years back. I watched the Logan's Run tv show when I was a kid, and it didn't compare at all to the feature film, and, IIRC, only ran for one season on late Saturday mornings.
@@samr.england613 Yes. My cousin, Farrah Fawcett was in the Logan's Run movie, and I tried to catch everything she was in. She played Holly, the assistant to the doctor in the New You. (We shared a great grandmother out of Texarkana, AR).
@@antonnym214 Hi. Yes, I'm well aware of Farrah's portrayal of Holly! Over the years, I've watched 'Logan's Run' well over 20 times, no exaggeration. Everybody loved Farrah! So sorry she died relatively young.
AI really butchered the pronunciation of Who Mourns for Adonis!
Ad o nic instead of A don is
@@michael777e No. I think that is not even a word. "Adonis" is a name, but "Adonais" is, too.
@@ThomasLahn the way you pronounce a word is not always the way it is spelled. But these videos using A.I to read almost all have at least one or two words mispronounced
@@michael777e Proves it was AI read.
@@ThomasLahn But not ADD on nick. A mythic character in Greek literature. A beautiful man loved by Persephone, whose name became a term for a man of exceptional beauty and desirability.
Don't let IA rewrite your history!!!!!!
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THERE WAS NO EMAIL IN 1966
It existed in "Amok Time". hehehe
Stopped watching when I heard that.
Only from one Tricorder to Tricorder ⚡
Yes , there was. Grow a brain.
Internal to IT and military mostly but it was email and the name was coined then. A lot happened before Tim Webster came up with the World Wide Web and made computer based comms accessible to the greater public.
BBS systems werre the next stage and that (AOL anyone?) was huge well before the net 'happened'
As usual the kiddies are completely ignorant of what happened before they were born and, also as usual, they are dense enough to advertise their ignorance. 😏 --
Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously.
Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
Yes there was. Just look up all the emails Abe Lincoln sent to George Washington. You are confused.
Needs a section on Wah Chang, a distant relative of mine. He was a special effects guy in Hollywood. He designed and built the salt monster, the Gorn and the tricorder and communicator. I don’t think he e er got a credit for these iconic items. Many, many years ago, I had a brief conversation with Gene Roddenberry and asked him about my “Uncle Wah.” He recognized the name immediately and remarked that it was amazing how he moved around - he contracted adult polio and had to use heavy arm braces to get around. He also got the Oscar for “The Time Machine,” for his company, Excelsior. An amazing man.
After being a 1st generation trekkie for decades, imagine my surprise when I only noticed, fairly recently, that McCoy wears a pinky ring.
The original screenplay for "City on the Edge of Forever" can be found in a collection called "Six Science Fiction Plays". It's truly awful -- what Roddenberry did to it was a kindness, and it went on to win the Hugo Award.
Re: Women, sci-fi and the 60s, the first producer of "Doctor Who", which premiered on 11/23/63, was a woman -- Verity Lambert. Didn't have to disguise her name or anything. (Yes, it had the misfortune of premiering the day after JFK was shot. They replayed the first episode a week later.)
Thank you for this. Lately I've had trouble finding things to hold my attention or carry my interest for more than a moment or two. This was entirely interesting all the way through.
Apparently Star Trek had more than just "Trouble With Tribbles."
Fun Fact: I read the 1968 book about star trek, and NONE of the mens trousers has pockets.. The men also complained about the cheap boot shoes they had, the heels kept falling off. Also the book said that the lead actor was paid 5 grand a year for the first year and 5500 for the second year.? A great book to read.
Functional email didn't exist until the mid 1980s.
In 1966 we were still using fax machines that worked over an acoustic coupler ... maybe 110 bits per second on a good day.
20 minutes or more to transmit one page of very low resolution text.
Yes, and I can remember thinking twice in the mid-80s about downloading a 50k file because it would tie up the phone for 20 minutes.
You said still using except for the fact that they were just starting to use them. The Long Distance Xerography (LDX) machine as it was originally known was not invented until 1964 by Xerox and wasn't in widespread use for a couple of years.
@@mikeslater6246 In 1966 I was 12 so I was going by what I recall from movies of the time. Thanks for your more accuate information.
The 1968 movie "Bullitt", starring Steve McQueen, has a scene where McQueen is waiting for an LDX machine to transmit a mugshot. The implication in the scene is a 15 minute or so wait for a single b&w image at (I would guess) a good bit less than 200 dpi resolution.
@@jwilliam2255 thanks for the additional information. It gives a little more context and helps me to understand a little bit better where you're coming from. Have a blessed day!
C*ap - Computer-based messaging between users of the same system became possible following the advent of time-sharing in the early 1960s, with a notable implementation by MIT's CTSS project in 1965. Informal methods of using shared files to pass messages were soon expanded into the first mail systems. Most developers of early mainframes and minicomputers developed similar, but generally incompatible, mail applications. Over time, a complex web of gateways and routing systems linked many of them. Some systems also supported a form of instant messaging, where sender and receiver needed to be online simultaneously.
Remember the movie 'You've got mail' ? - that was based on AOL BBS - before Internet. And years before AOL I was using email to talk to colleagues in the USA
The divided two Kirks were not good versus evil. You missed the whole point of the episode. What you called the "Good Kirk" is actually the "Civilized Kirk." What you label the "Evil Kirk" is actually the "Feral Kirk" motivated by his "Id" to use a psychological reference. The Feral Kirk is only Evil if you project your own judgments upon him. Acting on one's Feral desires is considered uncivilized hence as a civilized empathetic being you label the Feral Kirk Evil. In truth Man's innate Feral nature served to keep us alive as a species before the ideals and institutions of civilization took root in our collective minds. Only today when feral natures serve survivalist ideals & war making goals are our primal drives reduced in rank to "Evil!"
Watched the show as a child and felt l learnd a lot of various forms of information. Humanity's rise to a higher consciousness society on earth. It was not talked about, you could see the differences if you paid attention and thought about it. Human compassion, psychology, quantum physics, the problems with prejudice and more.
There *_WAS NO EMAIL_* in 1966. How did that get in your script?
I think the bit about non-union costume work applied to some of the props work too. I recall reading somewhere that I think it was either a communicator or one of the styles of phaser for which several copies were made by a non-union fabricator in violation of union rules to solve some sort of production issue; they either needed the props turned around quickly, less expensively, or they needed to replace existing copies that were either breaking, broken, or otherwise not working out in filming.
Nice trip down memory lane
As a kid I was mesmerized by how real Star Trek was. Compared to the 1930's reruns of Flash Gordon. The idea of space travel seemed normal. But one part never changes the woman were dressed as risque as the studio would allow.
Shatner actually keot the hair pieces as they were of higher quality than he was used too. Not specifically Star trek memorbilia, but...
Keot?
@@veiledzorba Obviously they accidently hit the "o" instead of the "p".
I was a weekly church attendee when Star Trek was on. I definitely did not find Spock satanic looking. I thought of him as an alien man, like he was portrayed in the show.
Actually it wasn't losing money but a major hit. The way they recorded ratings in the 60's basically reported them backwards.
Dear Grace,
I love you! Rest in peace, my darling.
Shatner nissed Nimoys Funeral because he was working somethin like a thou ks away and couldn't cancel. Where would we have been without the redoubtable D.C. Fontana, nice writin m8!!!
3:57 As if her first name were "Yeoman"...
I noticed something after watching the shows and movies of most of the Series.
If you watch them closely you'll notice they are in space! :O
And in the future, most of the time
Lt. Uhura!!!! BTW, that kiss was Shatner's feat!
I have all 13 Star Trek movies from "The Motion Picture" to "Star Trek Beyond". Out of all this, I believe "The Wrath of Khan" is the absolute best of all, and I think Ricardo Montalban had a lot to do with it. Harve Bennett got it right.
Ricardo did indeed do a great job - but the whole sequence would have been better if they'd based it on something other than "Space Seed". JMHO....
Yeah, really.
1:44 A September 1966 email? Really, dude? Even ARPANET wasn’t created until 1969, and that was well before email. Written by AI a little?
The term "email" is first documented in 1971, but the concept existed as early as 1965.
The Original Star Trek episode Bread and Circuses is about a modern society which televises life and death gladiatorial games that regulate the population. It is uncannily similar to the novel and films of The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins. Perhaps along with The Lottery a short story by Shirley Jackson? Star Trek had an impact on her story.
Only the original Star Trek series matters.
Agreed, along with the movies and Animated series.
@@slaapliedjeDisagree. Only the original series matters
Come on now.
Only the original pilot episode matters.
@mcstabba Ha, it had aliens which will always be fondly remembered as "The Buttheads."
Did one of the original authors really send a 1966 email? How can we get a copy of that email? What system does that email run on? Was that on the AOL’66 service? If this is true, maybe there was technology involved with Star Trek that no one knew about.
That's not too far from the dawn of networking. Just 3 years really. But 3 years is still 3 years I suppose. Email dates a bit later than TCP/IP though. It would be 5 years after 1966 when that occurred. It could have happened sooner if someone had just done it. Yet no one did.
ARPAnet was not the first computer network. And it didn't standardise on TCP/IP (the internet) until years later, and the internet wasn't the first (or only) computer network either, It was based on another network protocol called Cyclades.
Meanwhile, electronic messages had been sent between computer users ever since multi-user systems existed. And sending them between systems was the reason why computer networks were built in the first place.
@@davidwuhrer6704 so, you're trying to say that Al Gore didn't invent the Internet? I don't know about that. Next you'll be telling me that he's lying about climate change too.
@@davidwuhrer6704 so the original authors of Star Trek were users of these networks?
@@TheSquaredM I very much doubt that. Although they were unusually knowledgeable about computers.
Another incredible star trek video. This one was exceptional in somehow making Star Trek boring for the first time I've ever seen.
1:47 “a September 1966 e-mail”
WoW they really where living in the future.
Nimoy didn’t make the gesture; he was the youngster. The change to minidresses was at the instance of Grace Lee Whitney, who thought the baggy tunics and pants didn’t show off her figure. Men only wore minidresses on The Next Generations. The rational, detached personality was part of Number One’s personality in the pilot, switched to Spock in the series, when she was eliminated.
Hi, It was not the first interracial kiss on TV. There is some debate about the first interracial kiss on television, but here are some of the earliest examples:
Emergency Ward 10 (1964): This British soap opera featured an interracial kiss in July 1964.
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You in Your Small Corner (1962): A British drama broadcast on ITV featured an interracial kiss in June 1962.
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Othello (1955): A televised production of Shakespeare's play featured interracial kisses between white and Black actors in December 1955.
It's important to note that these early examples often faced controversy and censorship. The famous kiss between William Shatner and Nichelle Nichols on Star Trek in 1968 is widely recognized as a significant moment, but it wasn't the first.
In the US = yes, I think it was.
European television doesnt count. Euros have always been more progressive.
@@voicetube TOS was *16 years late.*
1951 I Love Lucy
1958 The Ed Sullivan Show
1959 Sea Hunt
1960 Adventures in Paradise
1966 I Spy
1967 TOS
@@MichaelPohoreski LOL, you make a very good point!!! I never thought about that - Lucy was Caucasian and Desi… Was not! Very good catch :-)
I was going to mention the Lucy-Desi thing. Also, Sammy Davis Jr. had a kiss with a white woman, but I have forgotten whom. It predated the Kirk-Uhura kiss. Quick question, which episode came first, Plato's Step Children, or Helen of Troyis? That actress was from south east Asia, I think Vietnamese, but again, not sure
Lots of errors in this.
A I gobbledygook. What fans really didn't notice was is wasn't until Star Wars that film makers realized you don't a bra in space. Thank you very much.
Even though Norman Spinrad might have been advanced enough to write emails in 1966, nobody was reading them at that point. I guess that means nobody got the memo…
Nothing better than narrators who mispronounce names and words, and get facts wrong. Super well done!
My claim to fame. 🤓
William Shatner blocked me on Twitter.
I guess he didn't like a joke I made suggesting he had a "thing" for Green Chicks.
😂
He was never involved with the Paramount version of the Wicked Witch from the West.
I’ve never seen Teri Garr so young!
I think this was her first acting role on TV.
There were no emails back in September of 1966.
Shatner receiving the most lines had nothing to do with Norman Spinrad, who was not an author of Star Trek. It was in Shattner's contract.
Ellison's version of "City on the Edge of Forever," is bad Star Trek. He had crew members selling drugs, and the Guardian was 12 Giants, making it too expensive to film.
Roddenberry had to rewrite so many Teleplays (not Screenplays) because they weren't up to the quality he wanted. Roddenberry required his teleplays to be 25-50% more than the typical teleplay on television at the time.
Roddenberry did not have to choose between Spoke and Number One. NBC ordered Roddenberry to get rid of Number One because they knew he was committing adultery with the actress.
Courage and Roddenberry did not work out a deal where they split royalties. Courage wrote the music, and Roddenberry quickly wrote some terrible lyrics so that under the laws of the day he could share in the royalties.
Star Trek actually had very good ratings until its third season.
The bigger was never cut by more than 60% or even close to that.
Live Long and Prosper has NOTHING to do with Orthodox Judaism. It's the hand sign that comes from Orthodox Judaism.
Guys never wore mini-skirts during the original series, and it was both actresses Grace Lee Whitney and Celeste Yarnall who asked the skirts be shortened.
"The Cage" was never, ever going to the picked up. It was NBC's test to see if a TV studio, Desilu, could produce an hour-long episode each week.
Desilu was known for 1/2-hour episodes at the time.
The second pilot was to see if Desilu could produce an hour-long episode on budget.
Dorothy Fontana chose to use the name D. C. Fontana as she had sold teleplays to television long before Star Trek.
Paramount was contractually required to use Roddenberry as a consultant as he owned 1/2 of Star Trek.
As Star Trek II finished filming, Leonard Nimoy started having second thoughts about the death of Spock.
Nimoy was part of the writing crew for Star Trek III so Spock's return was something Nimoy always was a part of.
"Roddenberry required his teleplays to be 25-50% more than the typical teleplay on television at the time." Do you mean 25-50% more DIALOGUE?
@@musicloverme3993 No. Thanks for asking the question for clarification. Roddenberry wanted his teleplays to be of greater quality. He wanted the plots to be better, the prose to be better and the themes to be better.
That's why Star Trek became a classic.
i'm 60 and i have heard plenty of these stories only the characters who experienced them keep changing and the stories keep changing. one example is shatner had tinnitus and it was from the arena episode.
@@louisfinley4631 You are correct. Shatner did get tinnitus from an explosion in the episode "The Area," which has lasted his entire life.
@@markgraham2312 I don't recall a track episode from the original series called "The Area." I'm guessing that a typo of Arena?
Lucille Ball and Ricky Ricardo were tremendously important in American TV history! (Desi Arnaz, right? Lucille Ball's husband and the Desi in Desilu)
adonayz? sheesh. lost it on that one.
My email from 1933 specifically supersedes any future changes to this HR policy.
UNION GRIEVANCE!!!!!!
lol The "Oreganian" Treaty. Sounds delicious.
Spock may have been scripted less dialog.....but he had lasting imprint.....with his logic.
I studied Logic in college...and I still don't have pointy ears! Maybe I should demand my money back!
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Have other fans noticed this? At the beginning of The Cloud Minders episode, when Spock and Kirk have just been captured with a lasso by the Troglytes, there's a whole line of dialog where we hear Kirk speaking but Shatner's mouth doesn't move at all?
No, Gene didn't remove Number One for Spock. The network executives got rid of Majel Barrett, the actress who played Number One, when they found out that Gene was married and having an affair with her. They feared the scandal it could ignite and how that could sink the show. Gene later snuck her back onto the show as Nurse Chapel. He later divorced his wife and married Majel. I stopped watching this video and down voted it due to this as it shows its creator doesn't know what he is talking about.
The email from 1966 didn’t clue you in?
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker Hmmm. AI? 🤨
No, they wanted to get rid of Number One, they didn't like the character. A logical woman? Preposterous! They encouraged Roddenberry to do "reasonable casting" instead.
Which is why the (originally funny native) alien became the logical first officer.
Barrett died her hair and reauditioned. She was cast as the nurse, and Roddenberry didn't even recognise her at first.
He later said he kept the alien and married the woman, it wouldn't have been legal the other way around.
The rumour that he had been dating her during the shooting of the pilot was started decades later.
@@davidwuhrer6704 I see you've drank the Gene Kool-Aid. Both network executives say she was dropped when they found out married Gene was having an affair with her. They said they would have also dropped Nicole if they had known Gene was doing her too, which he was. Gene later lied about it a number of different ways. One of which you now believe.
Gene created a great TV show. Period. But that doesn't mean he wasn't wirh his flaws. If you want to know even worse, research his reputation at Star Trek conventions.
Nice facts. AI is utube killing itself.
I didn't take that remark from Spock to Yoeman Rand in that way at all. To me, it was saying that Kirk, deep down had cardinal desires for her. He never showed them but they came out when his id was out of control. The whole point is that we all have desires that must stay in check. What was also fascinating about that episode was that the "all-good" Kirk could not command. He needed some ego and aggression to make command decisions.
Only Ai would quote an email from 1966
People need to do some research before questioning the "email" issue. That's my take, I don't know all there is to know. Computer networking has been possible since before Star Trek started. This I do know. I've programmed as a hobby since the mid-70's. I know some about the history of networking before the programming bug bit me. The ability to send files (such as text files) to remote computers and download files from remote computers has been in place and became mainstream with technology known as Arpanet, the predecessor to the Internet.
In fact, to this day, the same technology used back when Star Trek started is still built into the latest Windows operating system and other operating systems, allowing the bypassing of nameservers (DNS) and accessing remote computers directly. You just have to know about it and like in the olden days, be able to manually program it yourself (type text into several intuitively-structured system text files). "Email sent" was surely a poor choice of term in this video, a better term would probably be "a text notification sent out" or even more on target "a text file sent out." The first actual email protocols were not developed until the mid 1980's or so.
Items only missed by people who were not paying attention. This vid is prerequisite to ST-TOS Basics 101 at best. Only helpful if your first question is, "What is 'Star Trek'?".
12:15 Shatner was not invited to Takei's wedding,even though he;s a fantastic actor, and is aware of it." That's one of the wittiest barbs ever.
1966 email?!? I know everyone has already mentioned it, but this is what happens when you're relying on AI to construct your RUclips videos. Why can't you have actual human beings doing the writing and reading?!
Captain's Log: I can't take anymore, I'm outta here and we're only 3 minutes in.
I like to see what the original Screenplay of City on the Edge of Forever. I like to see how different the screenplay was from the actual Episode. It was a great Episode considered probably best of the TOS.
May I refer you to "The Doomsday Machine".
>> like to see what the original Screenplay of City on the Edge of Forever.
@@alexmuenster2102 - Where can I find it? Is this something I can access for free OnLine?
It's in one of Ellison's books. I think "Ellison Wonderland." I have a copy but can't find it.
@@musicloverme3993 - Can you clarify your comment please? Do you mean tht the Doomsday Machine was a great episode which I agree with you. Or do you mean the Original screenplay for that episode was different than what was finally produced?
My top three tv shows were WILD WILD WEST..OUTER LIMITS..STARTREK..All in black and white...
They made color tvs back then
@ward9306 Yep...I was a poor kid..out in the sticks..lucky to have a black and white and electricity...
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At 1:46 the robot is talking about 1966 e-mail. Goodbye.
Dude, you missed all the other idiotic screw-ups. Pathetic!
Does anyone know who the woman (on the left) is, at 8:58 seconds into the video?
I don't recognize her, but I'd still like to know. :)
The first inter-racial kiss on TV did NOT occur on Star Trek. It occurred over 10 years earlier and William Shatner was part of it.
Here is a list of the earliest inter-racial kiss on TV:
Date Program Episode Participant Participant
11/16/1958 Ed Sullivan Show World of Suzie Wong William Shatner France Nuyen
8/11/1967 Star Trek Mirror, Mirror William Shatner Barbara Luna
12/11/1967 Movin' With Nancy Special Nancy Sinatra Sammy Davis, Jr.
6/6/1968 Star Trek Elaan of Troyius William Shatner France Nuyen
9/17/1968 Star Trek Plato's Stepchildren William Shatner Nichelle Nichols
On _American_ TV these predate TOS.
1951 I Love Lucy
1958 The Ed Sullivan Show
1959 Sea Hunt
1960 Adventures in Paradise
1966 I Spy
1967 TOS
On _UK_ TV these predate TOS:
1954 _The Seekers_
1955 _Othello_
1959 _Hot Summer Night_
1959 _Probation Officer_
1962 _You in Your Small Corner_
1964 _Emergency Ward 10_
0:30 No, TOS did NOT have the first interracial kiss on TV:
1951 _I Love Lucy_
1958 _The Ed Sullivan Show_
1959 _Sea Hunt_
1960 _Adventures in Paradise_
1966 _I Spy_
1967 _TOS_
The very first rudimentary ‘email’ was via M.I.T., in 1965. Not sure what provider(s), and what structure, the ‘email’ would have existed in 1966? Definitely not the ‘email’, we know of today.
D.C. Fontana wrote my favorite(and the only one I've actually read...)* Star Trek novel, Vulcan's Glory. It takes place during the Captaincy of Christopher Pike and chronicles the first voyage with new crewman Spock and Scott. In it she explores Pike and #1's personal backgrounds and really delves into the life of Spock and Vulcan culture. It's not the type of story that would translate well on the 'big screen'. But I would love to see a talented crew, with the right funding and NO modern socio-political message to ruin it (Discovery/Picard/Star Wars sequel drek, etc.), make a solid two parter, just sticking to the story in the book.
*I have read a few ST movie and series episode adaptations as a kid, but never had the interest for straight novels. A story based on Pike's Enterprise intrigued me though so I'm very glad I picked it up.
Give a shot to Ford's _How Much For Just The Planet?_ for light entertainment. I believe you won't be sorry.
Even if the late author believed Scotty ate oatcakes with syrup.
I would pay good money to see Kirk & Sulu forgive and forget. ...
They worked together solidly for three years, and sporadically on the movies for how long? And they've spent decades feuding. They need to grow up finally.
Both have huge egos in their way.
@@WickedPrince3Dunfortunately that is what too many grown-ups do.
@@mikeslater6246 Yes I know, I've watched similar things with my own family. One of my great uncles screwed my grandma out of her inheritance. It wasn't worth a lot, it was mostly just stuff with sentimental value, and this guy wouldn't have understood the point of that. But great grandma promised it to grandma and he refused to let her have it. Their feud lasted until they were both near death, only then could they let it go. Got a similar thing going on between two uncles. And to be honest, I have a very short list of people who hurt me so much I'll never forgive them. But that's mostly a sort of one-sided feud. None of them knows about it because I'm the only person who could tell them, and I won't talk to them. Just seeing them makes me seethe with so much anger I have to leave the room. I am certain none of them remembers the thing they did, but I'll never forget.
I tried to finish the video after hearing "a 1966 email", but the rest wasn't much better.
@@davidwuhrer6704 I meant to type "email", no idea why I typed "video" instead. It's corrected now.
All credibility is absent with the 1966 email statement.
I am a big fan of Harlan Ellison and I am disappointed to find out the original screenplay was altered. I would love to read the original.
Shatner had tinnitus not Kelley. I wish I had a penny for every factual error in this video.
As to the lyrics for the theme song that Gene wrote, they are actually quite lovely and appropro. And quite singable (by me), but especially by Nichelle Nichols, who they should have let record it for the end of one of the movies.
This vid is so disorganized it is not worth watching.
Definitely. I downvoted it. I would like it if there were a place in the video heading itself where you could tell RUclips to never show any videos from the channel ever again.
@@SenileOtaku Google provide useful features such as channel blocking? But that would take work! /s
Kirk's hearing was screwed up in the Gorn episode during the shelling scene.
1:45 The first email ever sent was in 1971 so this video is nonsense. 😆 🤣
Wow, the first interracial kiss in American TV history ....what took em so long 😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
The kiss between Kirk and Uhura, while a 'historic milestone', was not the first interracial kiss on American TV.
Really, so what was? Why would you put such an unsubstantiated claim out without the evidence to support it?
@@mikeslater6246 : A simple Google search will reveal such evidence. I don't have the time now.
@@mikeslater6246 : The evidence is there. A simple search will reveal it. Happy searching.
@@mikeslater6246 : "Identifying the first interracial kiss on television is a subject of debate. Historians noted that interracial kisses between blacks and whites were depicted on British television during live plays as early as 1959, and on subsequent soap operas like Emergency Ward 10. In the United States, interracial kisses were shown on I Love Lucy between the Cuban Desi Arnaz and Caucasian Lucille Ball, who was both his onscreen and real-life wife, in the 1950s. However, despite Arnaz and Ball being frequently described as an "interracial couple", "Hispanic" is not always considered to be a race. Arnaz is today considered by some to be a white man of Cuban ancestry. The United States Census Bureau uses the ethnonyms Hispanic or Latino to refer to a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race; the Census Bureau states, "People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be any race." In 1958, a decade prior to "Plato's Stepchildren", Shatner himself shared an interracial kiss when he kissed France Nuyen, a person of Asian ancestry, during a scene in the Broadway production of The World of Suzie Wong, which was shown in an episode of The Ed Sullivan Show.
Other shows such as Adventures in Paradise and I Spy featured kisses between white male actors and Asian actresses. Sammy Davis Jr. kissed Nancy Sinatra on the cheek on a December 1967 episode of her televised special Movin' with Nancy.
On Star Trek, in the first season episode "What Are Little Girls Made Of?", first broadcast in October 1966, there is a friendly kiss between Uhura, played by Nichols and Christine Chapel, played by Majel Barrett. In the February 16, 1967 episode "Space Seed, Mexican actor Ricardo Montalban, playing the genetically engineered supercriminal Khan Noonien Singh, kisses Madlyn Rhue. In the second season episode "Mirror, Mirror," first broadcast on October 6, 1967, Kirk and Lt. Marlena Moreau, played by BarBara Luna, an actress of Filipino-European ancestry, kiss on the lips. Meanwhile, Mirror-Sulu, played by Japanese-American actor George Takei, kisses Uhura's neck.
According to Syracuse University Professor of television and popular culture Robert Thompson, irrespective of which interracial kiss was the first, Thompson observed, the one in "Plato's Stepchildren" is the one considered a historical milestone."
Is this enough 'evidence'?
@@mikeslater6246 Gee if only we could SEARCH for the answer:
1951 I Love Lucy
1958 The Ed Sullivan Show
1959 Sea Hunt
1960 Adventures in Paradise
1966 I Spy
1967 TOS
Wow. So those communicators had email? Who knew?