80 Things You Didn't Know About The Star Trek Next Generation Movies
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Stewart's portrayal of Picard grew immensely during First Contact and is one of the main reasons that First Contact is my most beloved Trek Movie. I can't help but compare Stewart's Picard from First Contact to Weaver's Ripley from Aliens. Both refused to give up on a loved one and both had to face down Alien Queens. Both were bad asses!
Luv the scene where Jordi watches the sunset with his own eyes. Just beautiful.
Geordi
It makes the scene where they all walk in on Picard in the cargo transporter that much more powerful, because instead of Picard asking Geordi to sacrifice his normal human vision he's just gained for the first time in his life, it's Geordi himself who asks Picard to set things right on the planet, even if it costs him something he's wished for nearly his entire life.
That and the opening scene.Ill smoke a fatty and rewind those scenes . Star Trek was never big on pretty visuals like scenery.Or nebulas.
Insurrection struck me as just being a regular episode. It never felt like a theatrical release.
Insurrection is the only movie of this four which I don`t like at all.
I think because it retreats specific story elements from several episodes.
With LT Hawk there is something to remember about the actor playing him. He is a Catholic and had previously turned down roles that went against what he believed. I do not think he signs on to the role if his character was gay. The actor does not force his beliefs on anyone but he uses his beliefs on why he turns down roles. When he was on desperate housewives they had to rewrite a lot of scenes because the actor will only kiss his wife.
Plus, the actor has gotten hit on a lot.
Neal is an A list actor now, albeit with prematurely silver-grey hair, and has played a quasi-supernatural villain in the DCEU, mainly in Arrow.
I find it odd to suggest he would refuse a role simply because the character was gay, considering the appalling actions of Darkh.
He was blackballed by the industry for two years because he refused to film (hetero) sex scenes, citing love for his wife
Patrick McGoohan could have been James Bond, but he turned it down because all the casual sex and killing went against his Catholic principles.
Good for Neal! Standing up for what is right.
@@neilgodwin6531If true, I can very much respect that. It's oddly wholesome.
I remember hearing neelix's voice and checking the end credits to see if Ethan Phillips name popped up. But never saw it. I went years thinking I had been wrong 😂
When I was in university and Generations came out the majority of my floor mates and I went to the movie on opening night. One floor mate asked me for my ticket and I said “no I’m as old as Star Trek and I want to see Kirk bite it”. I also had the teaser movie poster for Generations on my wall.
Finally the long list for Star Trek TNG movies as I expected from TrekCulture , thank you 🖖
re: different uniforms. In the real-life US military, there are of course transitions to new uniform styles. In times of transition, there is a pragmatically-required period in which both new and old styles are worn, yes side-by-side in the same units. In this sense, Generations very much resembles the real military.
When it comes to Science Fiction I like to say, "make mine a Star Trek please."
😊🖖🏼
Makes the "Gorn wedding!" joke in Lower Decks that much funnier 😂
I'm loving these 2 hour long trek culture segments. Best hits of the last three years.
RUclips version of a golden girls clip show
But perhaps a "lite" version of 2 hours? Being this video is 1h5m44s.
On the subject of uniforms, anyone that has served knows it takes years for uniforms to phase out. I went through 3 daily use (not counting the DCU or the RFI uniform for deployment only), 3 physical fitness and 2 dress uniforms before my 20 year retirement. This is not counting change to hats/boots/unit patches, from regular to airborne units. But these are quicker changes.
Yeah, this is part of the reason I find criticisms of the times the uniforms overlap to be a bit silly.
I love that in Lower Decks we got to see the statue of Cochram that was mentioned in First Contact (and the place was turned into a theme park).
oh yall know that Rikers been to a few Gorn weddings -- probly stolen the bride at a few as well
Unfortunately, Generations was not the crossover film we wanted. It really was a Kirk-Picard buddy film with cameos for some cast members.
Star Trek 6 was really the wrap party. Still, ST 2-4 were peak for Nichelle Nicholls and Walter Koenig (who did not get much screen time in later movies.) I liked First Contact much better. The mystery of Lt. Hawk was well done.
What mystery?
I got a whole round of those generations uniform action figures. Very interesting pieces, but their elbows and knees didn't bend.
The 1st time Geordie La Forge appeared without appendages over his eyes was in the series episode 'Hide and Q' where Riker said "Don't worry. There is no way I could harm any of you". Geordie said the price was a little to high and he wouldn't like who he would have to thank. He did beg though, for his eyes to be put back they way they were.
"appendages"???
@@FlockyFlock17 app that end the ages.
@@mrwebber35 That doesn't make any sense. Whether you say "appendages", like your original post, or "app that end the ages", you make zero sense.
You mean his visor? I don’t get appendage. An arm, a hand or a finger would be an appendage.
@@FlockyFlock17 Appendages of eye -> accessory organs of the eye The eyelids, with lashes and eyebrows, lacrimal apparatus, conjunctival sac, and extrinsic muscles of the eyeball. Synonym: organa oculi accessoria, accessory organs, accessory visual apparatus, adnexa oculi, appendages of eye. Therefore a visor can be an appendage of an eye. If you know everything you stop learning. You probably believe everything that Trump spews from his flag raping lips as well rather than Goggle being there all the time ready to fact check.
Great videos as always!
Just one note... Boston Legal was the show that Jeri Ryan (and William Shatner and Rene Auberjonois) were working on at the time. Fantastic show, btw.
Jeri Ryan was a regular on Boston Public, a show about a high school. She only appeared in two episodes of Boston Legal.
I don’t even remember her on Boston legal, which was a show that I loved and re-watched a couple years ago and still don’t remember her being on. However Boston public, I know she was on much more of.
The Enterprise E decks debate... I heard that there are some "double" sized decks. Where there are rooms that are 2 decks high. So while they might only have 24 decks... Some of those could be double height and count as only one deck.. for example a Astrometrics lab with a viewscreen that is 3 decks high...
Insurrection - I just noticed that one of the sets for the ship... 34:15 Is directly reused in an episode of Voyager - The episode where the doctor appears in the future and they have Voyager pinned as the "evil" in their history. (S4: E23 - Living Witness)
I’m embarrassed that it took me multiple viewings of Generations to spot the Bat-Leth in Kirk’s cabin.
I have seen all the tng episodes more times than I could possibly count and never noticed the black pieces of paper that the filming crew would put over the screens in the back of the bridge where light reflected off the glass and messed up the shot. Now I notice them in just about every bridge scene.
I can beat those nuggets - watch the episode where Picard plays his flute in his quarters with his girlfriend. Pay particular attention to his hands when he plays.
@@GavinScrimgeour yeah I think I was told in a video about this one, it's another guy playing the flute(I think) so I'm assuming you can tell it's not Patrick Stewart's hands? Or the hands don't match the music?
@@magnificentuniverse2283 Bingo, but unless you’re told this, you may not notice. In 4K you can tell someone is off 😂
@@magnificentuniverse2283- I spotted them every time. In the episode with the Stargazer I made it my head canon that they did that on purpose so that Riker couldn’t see the displays during the test - but I have no head canon for the other episodes I see them in. 😂
My kind of a Sunday video!
16:18 ok that is hilarious writing
I'm so glad they saved the saucer crash sequence til they have a film budget. Although the SFX people did a TERRIFIC job on the shows, there is ultimately only so much that can be done on a very limited TV budget
I love that Shatner wrote his own Mary Sue fan fic continuation of the story
a lot of info packed in to this... Thanks, Sean!
18:58 - Patrick Stewart refused to wear tights... this was after Men in Tights (1993).
😅 that’s probably why.
Generations is an underrated movie in my humble (and probably worthless) opinion.
The opening of scene of Generations is awesome. The tension between Kirk's desire to command and desire to respect the current captain is wonderful. It's a great action packed opener with sacrifice, risk, and loss. Also I can't help but love Malcom McDowell. He's a wonderfully charismatic villain. His motivation is so personal. The death of everyone isn't the goal it's a by-product of his desire for personal happiness.
The movie did not follow any basic laws of physics. Just another super hero comic.
@@MachabeesMalcolm is a great actor, but unfortunately he couldn't save that mediocre movie. I had to go back and watch the opening bc I'd forgotten. It was good, but the rest of it was rather bland for me. The interaction in the Nexus between Kirk and Picard was 🤮. I felt like Shat didn't want to share the screen, as if they were reciting lines separately and not together in the same room. Just my opinion
@@bkaley8974you mean science fiction. And we don't care about physics in movies, that's why they're movies and not documentaries.
@@kbanghart You stick with your comic book action heros. I'll stick with more accuracy in Star Trek physics
One thing I don't think gets enough attention in Generations is that so much of the lighting is *absolutely gorgeous* in a way the movie really doesn't deserve, notably making the TV set of the ship look every bit a movie set. The cinematographer was the cinematographer on Chinatown. I don't think any of the Next Gen films after looked anywhere *near* as good as Generations did.
I’m not a huge Star Trek fan but this video captured my interest again.❤️❤️ Well done!
Tom Hardy then went on to repair his career (because Baird is indeed an idiot) by giving us Bane in the Dark Knight Trilogy
26:23 it would have been bad ass if First Contact could have had Sisko, Dax, O’Brien and Bashir rescued with Worf. I could have totally seen Picard and Sisko facing off about self destructing the Enterprise. Had Dax and Worf fighting Borg, and Bashir and O’Brien with Riker and crew on the planet. Could have really added to the story.
Too much $$$
I could happily listen to Seán narrate anything for hours, even Terms and Conditions
Usually when I see these "things you didn't know" videos about movies I love, I don't see anything that I didn't know. But in this one, there were several things I didn't know. Well done!
35 million for Generations? That's just the food budget these days.
I like that Spock's grandfather is the Vulcan in command for First Contact. Because retroactively it makes sense why that family would become so involved with humanity in the first place i.e., Sarak becoming a Vulcan Ambassador (and marrying a human!) and Spock joining Starfleet itself before also becoming an ambassador.
The only thing interesting about guinan is the whole fact that q is actually a little bit scared of her that is a storyline that definitely needs to be elaborated on
I still it's funny in First Contact, they got Borg in the Engine Room doing who knows what to the warp core and power to the ship. And what does Picard do? He finds the first room with a force field holding back the vacuum of space to show the woman she is actually in space. Really? A room with a window wouldn't have wouldn't have done just as well?
That's what he was trying to find, a room on the outside of the ship with a window.
Plus, this way he could also explain force fields. Two birds with one stone.
@kbanghart It's a stupid design choice to only have a force field there, I can understand the shuttle bay using force fields, but some random compartment on the ship makes no sense.
Love Generations, overall and on personal level
I feel like I’m the only person who genuinely enjoyed Nemesis. Sure, there are elements I would change and a few scenes I would remove, but over all I’d say it’s the 2nd best TNG film, after First Contact.
I love it too. I had just lost a loved one very suddenly around the time it came out and Data's end was an emotional catharsis for me. I still go back and re-watch it the most.
I thought "Stargate" had the first dedicated website.
Thank you Sean ... I have been a Trekkie since 1966 and you are as much a part of Star Trek to me as Picard, Kirk and Spock.
Thanks for the long-form melding of these excellent segments! They're great, IMO. My conclusion about the movies: They're hard to make. 😊
The saucer crashing in the film was so good. That was also when surround sound was really taking off. Seeing that in the theater and hearing all the trees being taken down all around you was just great.
The worst part of the original crew being in there, is the Scotty episode from TNG. In that episode he asks if it was Kirk who saved him but the movie made that sound stupid since he would know he was dead, especially having been there.
Regarding Scotty, there are lots of occasions in the original series where a character dies and is marvelously resurrected. My head canon is simply that Scotty always believed Kirk was not really dead after all, and after he got out of the transporter he was hopeful that somehow during his transporter paralysis, Kirk had returned alive and well in his absence.
Give Scotty some credit: he'd just been pulled out of a transporter pattern buffer for the first time in 70 years. To hell with remembering things clearly: he's lucky he wasn't carried off the transporter pad in three different buckets.
Startrek generations came out in 94... jurassic Park 93.... hate to tell you jurassic Park had a promotional website before generations
The worse was that they forgot what had happened with Scotty. They completely skipped the relics episode. Which was horrible as a fan.
Interesting. Well, Generations was mediocre itself, so I never cared. And Trek is full of inconsistency. But I still like it
I had problems with Data/Spiner getting older, and looking different. That was indeed a big issue.
They should have had him keep the Borg skin modifications as an explanation for his aging.
I had a lot more problems with ME getting older and looking different to worry about an actor doing the same! I honestly didn't notice it then suddenly I did; same with Spiner!
Brent looked good in Picard
They could make him look younger, but you cant hide age.
The Bird of Prey exploding shot (with the Klingon getting sucked in to space) was used multiple times, even in the DS9's multiple battle scenes.
9:03 - The Generations website is no longer on the web today, but I wonder if internet archive sites like Wayback Machine have it preserved to still look at?
The glass case for the models is hilarious. Glass in a starship? Lol
Geeked out to this at the weekend. Great commentary
Great video Chris, thanks 👍👍👍
THANK YOU! They're perfect together. Can't wait to witness their collaborations!
The music for Insurrection is stunningly beautiful
Starship Creator.... the one that I never got to claim as my own. Saw it in shelves _once_ in some office depot like store, but never again afterwards.
Irl, US military members are given a uniform allowance each year to replace uniform pieces or defray the cost of one uniform. When the military change the BDUs everyone did not change their uniforms all at once, so you had people wearing different versions of the BDUs for several years.
53:46 i’m actually glad this scene with Wesley was cut. Not because I hate the character, although I hate the character, but because when he left TNG with The Traveler, he pretty much left Starfleet. Why would he be taking watches on a ship all of a sudden when he’s not even in anymore? he’s off doing ethereal things in the universe, not monitoring consoles on a ship nobody’s ever heard of.
I was very uncomfortable with Generations. But after I saw the episodes 9 and 10 of Picard season 3, I watched it again having inner peace. Even Kirk's body being stored at Daystrom station made me feel somehow relieved.
I don't understand how they couldn't work Selah into nemesis when it is centered around the Romulans and Raymond. I think they just didn't want to because they wanted to they could have easily found a way to work her in.
That actually sounds like a much better movie :O
Ty for making this video! I'm from Ohio so I shared this video to inform my friends !
I had no idea that the scene where Riker hazed his replacement was deleted!! I swear that I saw this the first time I saw Nemesis in the theatre.
The entire series of those books Shatner Co wrote were actually quite good; I was apprehensive at first but found myself anticipating the next one.
I really like Spectre but the rest of them generally don’t it for me. Still need to check out Captain’s Blood though
I loved Shatners books. Even Tek Wars.
The follow-up book series is worth reading. The books with Shatner on it were all great.
@@Cdr2002captains blood is okay. I really enjoy the last one though captains glory. It has an AMAZING tie in to “where no man has gone before”
@@danielgalway8395 I’ll have to check that one out
Thank you for this episode. It's a lot of work and details to research. The narrator sounds amazing (so many narrator use one sentence style tone and not normal conversation tones). Brilliant. I can't listen to the same exact sentence for even a few minutes. Well done. QUESTION: Why is Lt Uhuru not mentioned? At about 00:05:00 the original cast photo of 7 people is shown with Lt Uhuru (the respected actress Nichelle Nichols) but the narration says only 3 of the six original cast appear in the film, names three in the film, names the three not in the film, and no mention of Lt Uhuru. The section even mentions the STNG actress Whoopie Goldberg coming in plans to act with Nichelle Nichols but not having lines. Maybe something for edited out?
What happened at the end of the video? It seems to have been cut off.
Star Trek 7 was not only the very first ST movie I have seen in cinema back in 1994, I have it even seen before the TV show. Only because I have enjoyed the movie so much, I had decided to watch the show aswell. Because of this I had as an example no idea who the Duras sisters were.
I class Season 3 of Picard a TNG Movie, loved it
Nice ending
Great sound! 👍
I really love Insurrection. Largely because it is a "TV episode turned into a film." Feels so strongly connected to the ideals of the federation.
I like the mixed uniforms.
DS9 and Voyager had the newer uniforms, but Earth and some Federation ships were still using the season 3 TNG uniforms, but with the new comm badge.
Such as when Worf is first transferred to DS9, he is still wearing his TNG yellow security uniform.
The more universal gray dominant uniforms would be later in DS9 and technically in Voyager when Barclay successfully contacts Voyager from Earth.
1:00:00 -- I don't know if it's just me, but having Worf being Picard's new first officer would have made more sense to me. Especially if they left the scene in where Picard and Worf were discussing the Romulans in the observation lounge
I have a question about what were the name names of Kirks horses 😊
Snoopy and Prickly Pete.
@@ttintagel Shut up, George.
In the movie I am pretty sure Carmen started the war. She changed the flight path that caused the ship hit the asteroid. The slight change in direction of the asteroid over a vast distance caused the asteroid to hit Buenos Aires. Her actions caused the loss of communications which prevented notification to Earth of the accident.
I'm going to keep this general. I'm not a Trekkie. Some things stand out more than others. I won't go into the specifics. I can't even follow most of this timeline. But I can appreciate the details. Even if I can't follow them. A good watch. You get a like.
i met and chatted with johnathan frakes when he was directing thunderbirds the movie, with paxton and kingsly.
The uniform changes always drove me crazy!
59.37 Tom Hardy looks more like John DeLancey Q then Patrick Stewart
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Insurrection gets way too much flack....the term "feels like a long tv episode" is a COMPLIMENT. The movies are great and all, but Insurrection went back to the roots of the show, exploring, ethics, defending the defenseless, the movie is underrated. Nemesis is another one, by FAR the best battle sequence in TNG history, an absolutely amazing performance by Tom Hardy who had more than just clone makeup and NAILED the mannerisms, both movies had their issues, but both were also solid movies. The only TRUE mistake made with Nemesis was not adding the alternate ending directly after Picard left B4.
I knew about the Morse Code on the Borg eyepieces in ST:FC, it's a bit stupid as if you either have NO naval experience or have NEVER been a HAM radio operator, you're not going to notice that cute little trick in the film.
Its the whole point of most easter eggs, to be missable and overlooked, unless like you, you're in the know.
Funny, I don't recall First Contact having a bathroom break midway through here in the US...
I'd be interested in a Ai recreation of the Enterprise B scenes from Generations with the originally intended TOS actors put back in
3:00 mark - I remember the box art for the Riker action listed him as a lieutenant commander. 13 year old me actually thought he was demoted (I noticed this before I saw the movie).
I love all the Trek movies! Even Nemesis, Insurrection and Generations!
I thought the stargate movie had a webite in mid 93?
I read the novel The Return years ago and was pleasantly surprised that I enjoyed the story. It is the only Star Trek book I ever read. I have watched Star Trek since before I was born in the mid 60s.
I remember a leaked/fake First Contact script that was circulated on the web... all I can recall was that Riker was the captain of the U.S.S. James T Kirk, and it had a similar opening battle at Earth.
First Contact is still my favourite Trek movie
Thanks sooo much for this. Generations probably built most of my ideology. Much Love for this.
I aways thought Geordi'svisor looked like a gold banana clip. First Contact is my fave.
It appears 40 of the 120 "Things You Didn't Know About The Star Trek Next Generation Movies" appear to be Brent Spiner wanting to kill off the Data Character!
Alan Ruck was a brilliant comic actor. Brilliant in spin city.
Well, that ended rather abruptly.
14:30 - would be a frustrating exclusion were it not for a combination of Yesterday's Enterprise and Redemption, Part II. I am fairly certain Picard mentions his awareness of the abilities of Guinan's SPECIES. This implies her "sixth sense" is actually inherent to her species. In BOTH timelines, she remembers everything that happened in the other timeline, and I think it was in Redemption, Part II, when Guinan revealed HOW Sela could be Yar's daughter, that the abilities were mentioned as abilities of her species.
11:50 Alan Ruck was 29 at the time of filming for Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Not only was he not a teenager, he was nearly beyond his 20's.
Not as bad as Ingrid Bergman playing Joan of Arc when she was 33 years old. At list Alan can could pass for a teenager at 29. Ingrit actually looked a bit older than she actually was.
27:46 I hope that the issue is at least mentioned in Lower Decks.
Very good video. Btw, it's David O. Selznick. He's not Irish.
Always smiled when Q showed up 😉
Shatner had at least 3 novels about Kirk’s return… maybe 4
There’s a series of novels that are considered canon called “a time to… “ that explain why Wesley crusher was able to visit the wedding. He’s still a traveler in training but he risked a lot to save an alternate universe enterprise so he was allowed a visit(I may be muddling some points but the novels were supposed to be officially canon)
Fitting that it would be a Star Trek movie to have the first promotional website.
an hour and five minutes and that ending was super abrupt!
26:26 Couldn't be called Star Trek: Resurrection because of Alien: Resurrection, but now there is an Alien: Romulus.
The master systems display that Wharf points out if you count it if you count the decks you can get up to 23 to 24 decks depending on layout and furthermore depending on the layout maybe 25 to 26 but that means decks 24 to 26 are intermediate decks laying between decks 20 and 23 because the msd deck lines from bridge to the ventral secondary hull count exactly 23