Forza Motorsport VS Gran Turismo 7 Ferrari F8 Tributo Comparison In Depth Car Model Details PS5 PC

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2023
  • Get ready for the ultimate car model comparison between Forza Motorsport and Gran Turismo 7! In this video, we dive deep into the details of the Ferrari F8 Tributo in both games, exploring every intricate feature and design. As a car enthusiast, I'm here to give you an honest and objective analysis, so buckle up and join me on this exciting ride! Don't forget to subscribe for more epic car comparisons!
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  • @AutomotiveVP
    @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +113

    It was nice to see someone like Digital Foundry siding with GT7. I do think they missed a lot of its strengths, but they did a great job overall apart from downplaying GT7. It's kind of disheartening for me as I've been working on my video for a good three weeks now, and I don't want people to think I'm copying Digital Foundry. It's just so close to their content, even down to switching the watermark. That being said, it's a breath of fresh air for GT7 to receive recognition that isn't overshadowed by big media pushing Forza as the best-looking game ever made.
    What's your thoughts?

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +20

      They kinda went soft on Forza and admitted it; also, GT won it, that's what I mean. @@steveokingdom5883

    • @4thManonCross
      @4thManonCross 6 месяцев назад +8

      100% agree with you, partly possibly and easy to see the logic only a biased fanboy would disagree, digital foundry missed alot, I think they were trying to prevent a flame war or fanboy backlash,, or they could just be a bit secretly biased over getting money from Microsoft to be kind to Forza's, either way they downplayed allot of GT strength but the truth can't be denied

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +10

      I've been working on a video like theirs, but I've gone into a lot more detail than them. I also called out IGN and a random RUclipsr. Now, I'm thinking of adding more content to the video and including all three in the main video. Do you think that's a good idea? I will approach the call-out of the RUclipsr firmly, IGN firmly, and DF respectfully while asking them questions and more. Should I combined them all into one video? @@4thManonCross
      I felt they were holding back a lot and it seemed like they really wanted to make Forza look just as good. It's like they were always making excuses for it after criticizing it, if that makes sense. I also noticed that they used PC Forza in some clips. I think I need to rewatch it to confirm because Xbox Forza lacks reflective mirrors outside the car, and in some clips, I thought I saw some mirrors.
      I think you're right about the possibility of secret bias.

    • @BMR_WRLD
      @BMR_WRLD 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@AutomotiveVP I say make the content YOU want to make. I think it's fine to make comparisons and be respectful

    • @cnegi
      @cnegi 6 месяцев назад +4

      Totaly agree with you. They missed a lot of GT 7 masterpiece things, and gave a lot of credit to FM, by saying “they BOTH did an amazing job” multiple times 😂

  • @vyasrushi5177
    @vyasrushi5177 6 месяцев назад +209

    This car actually isn't even that bad in FM, it's just that GT7 is on a completely different level 😅

    • @hugostiglitzracing866
      @hugostiglitzracing866 6 месяцев назад +19

      True but the overall lighting in Forza just isn't great. Otherwise it looks great.

    • @Rene-jv7rf
      @Rene-jv7rf 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@hugostiglitzracing866 not as great as GT7, i mean look at the trees in Forza...dear o dear they suck, and in Forza they put trees everywhere just to cover up the background, and that is difinetely NOT the case in GT. And at night the stars and moon are static in Forza, in GT they use a system that the stars and moon are in the right place according the time of the year...that is having eyes for details....

    • @hugostiglitzracing866
      @hugostiglitzracing866 6 месяцев назад

      @@Rene-jv7rf idk, the treeline is wrong in Forza but I do think the tree models are actually good and sometimes better than GT7 but only with really far away trees
      But night lighting GT7 definitely blows forza out of the water, no doubt

    • @Rene-jv7rf
      @Rene-jv7rf 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@hugostiglitzracing866 perhaps the trees far away but what catch your eyes is the trees nearby and in Forza again, o dear o dear theyr realy suck. For r the rest i agree with you.
      Its a bit late but 🎄Merry Xmas and a happy Newyear🎄

    • @Avenger460
      @Avenger460 6 месяцев назад +1

      what do u mean its not bad the car is pixelated stop being cringe

  • @OZIPUG1970
    @OZIPUG1970 6 месяцев назад +185

    Its not just car models but the car ,helmet and suit livery editor and photo mode is so good in GT.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +14

      For real! I will be doing a comprehensive comparison review for both games, without missing a single thing! Stay tuned!

    • @michaelgriffin3345
      @michaelgriffin3345 5 месяцев назад +1

      I got to admit, i do like how you can match your outfits to your car by editing them in GT :) but not a deal breaker for me. Be nice if forza had that tho :)

    • @Journey_Awaits
      @Journey_Awaits 5 месяцев назад +1

      The suit editor they scuffed on purpose since you can only edit the sides of your trousers like why tf have that restriction

  • @NALTOHQ
    @NALTOHQ 6 месяцев назад +60

    Polyphony prides itself on its games. They stand as celebrations of all things automotive. The closest Forza got to that vision was Forza Motorsport 4 on the 360. It’s my favorite for a reason. With 5, they completely switched directions and its been for the worse ever since.

    • @blunderrated
      @blunderrated 5 месяцев назад +3

      fm4 was peak and prime for their franchise.

    • @jordangordon2350
      @jordangordon2350 5 месяцев назад +1

      youre completely right. that is the only time they reached the levels of passion that Polyphony puts into all of their games.

    • @CmdrDjBurp-dr5uy
      @CmdrDjBurp-dr5uy 5 месяцев назад

      Top gear

  • @rheon6699
    @rheon6699 6 месяцев назад +325

    Gt7 is absolutely unreal!

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +44

      It's just in a league of its own.

    • @petrbares7113
      @petrbares7113 6 месяцев назад +54

      GT7 is much closer to reality than Forza. I've played both games and GT7 is a masterpiece for me, while Forza is such an unrealistic speedsourdough. GT7 is really in a different league than forza and combined with PSVR2 it's an incredibly immersive experience.

    • @dominathor
      @dominathor 6 месяцев назад +17

      it is absolutely "unreal" how "real" it looks!

    • @petrbares7113
      @petrbares7113 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@dominathor Yes, I totally agree!

    • @freddiecunningham2860
      @freddiecunningham2860 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@petrbares7113fanboy talk

  • @oppos727
    @oppos727 6 месяцев назад +80

    Not to sound dramatic, but I think it's important that you try to keep posting up these kinds of comparisons on a regular basis. I hope they gain traction because you're basically vocalizing what all of us longtime-Forza fans have been harping about in forums and through reviews. For years. You do a good job of pointing out the things that would take too long to explain in an online rant. Appreciate you dude.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +2

      I promise to do the whole car list! I appreciate you! Sorry for the short reply I’m at work 😅

  • @fcukugimmeausername
    @fcukugimmeausername 6 месяцев назад +36

    The 'Welcome to Spa' sign, which is at the top of the Eau Rouge, is misspelt in Forza. They spelt 'Welcome' as 'Weclome" 🤣

    • @Nikinjapan
      @Nikinjapan 6 месяцев назад +1

      Weclcome* 😂

  • @evilformerlys4704
    @evilformerlys4704 6 месяцев назад +26

    I'm impressed with the reaction of the paint to the natural light and the bounced lighting on the Tributo. The natural light subtly makes the color look more orange than red in the bounced lighting

  • @LSDdreams808
    @LSDdreams808 6 месяцев назад +25

    The details in gran turismo cars is on a different level. I really enjoy this game.

    • @watersnortmoment3734
      @watersnortmoment3734 6 месяцев назад

      The paint simulation is also so far ahead of basically any other racing game too. I'd argue Forza has slightly better lighting but that's just because I like the style they went for instead of going all out on being 100% true to life. Others may disagree though. One thing I can say is that at least GT7 had the Nordschleife on launch instead of trying to convince people that they needed to delay the one track instead of the entire game (because of all of the issues it's plagued by).

  • @bonelesscheese8412
    @bonelesscheese8412 6 месяцев назад +28

    Forza just added orange peel to have a “realistic” paint effect. Yeah cuz a Ferrari comes with orange peel

    • @kaifengwu6565
      @kaifengwu6565 6 месяцев назад +11

      That amount of orange peel makes any car enthusiast's skin crawl. If you see a Ferrari with paint like that in real life, run tf away cause that thing was painted in your uncle's garage.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +3

      Or a damaged panel 🤣 @@kaifengwu6565

    • @FriendlyNoOne
      @FriendlyNoOne 6 месяцев назад

      From someone who has worked with current and vintage Ferraris on a daily basis I can tell you their paint work has far more imperfections than one would think. Including orange peel on plastic and fiberglass surfaces.

    • @bonelesscheese8412
      @bonelesscheese8412 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@FriendlyNoOne yeah but every single car has it bud. It’s not realistic no justification

    • @user-jy6ol4xp3m
      @user-jy6ol4xp3m 2 месяца назад

      Ok, do they include it on the plastic ahh engine head?

  • @86themadhatter27
    @86themadhatter27 6 месяцев назад +34

    Have people/artists left Turn 10? When i look at GT7's attention to detail/lighting etc, you can see it was built by a passionate team of car lovers. Forza's models look like they were done by artists who either lack the passion or skill for that extra 10% of detail. Yeah it looks good enough at a glance that the majority of players wont even notice.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +5

      I always wonder, when they hype up the marketing, do they then come off camera and think, 'I hope that works,' because surely they must own GT7 and have looked into everything within that game.

    • @erickpalacios8904
      @erickpalacios8904 6 месяцев назад

      The artists might not lack the passion or the skill, but the studio might lack money.

    • @goddamnsuperhero1213
      @goddamnsuperhero1213 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@erickpalacios8904FM8 had 5 years of development and MS moneys....

    • @TurboAlice
      @TurboAlice 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@erickpalacios8904I'm pretty sure they have unlimited resources from Microsoft, the studio just simply don't care that much about cars. You can literally see their lack of passion in their monthly interview.

    • @tiashadrows3469
      @tiashadrows3469 6 месяцев назад

      @@TurboAliceor hear me out, they might not be able to just take money from microsoft as idk, it’s not like microsoft has many more games

  • @GunBlasts
    @GunBlasts 6 месяцев назад +73

    Digital Foundry went really soft with Forza to a point where I wanted to ask if they have a partnership going on with Microsoft lol. Do they?

    • @BiriBiri925
      @BiriBiri925 6 месяцев назад +14

      100%.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +2

      I have made two videos based on what you have said here; ruclips.net/video/ZMNkWYW9HmA/видео.html I literally felt the same way as you.

    • @MegaRayland
      @MegaRayland 6 месяцев назад +10

      In that video John says a line like “…after hearing from Froza fans after the last video (GT Sport vs F7)…”, which led me to believe they succumbed to pressure, maybe even from Turn 10 and/or MS.
      With that said DF has for years now being too much about ‘not offending anyone’, and very often they sugarcoat things to please everybody.

    • @hugostiglitzracing866
      @hugostiglitzracing866 6 месяцев назад +3

      Honestly it was weird. John was way more honest when he did the comparison between FM7 and GT Sport which makes no sense because the gap has only widened.

    • @hugostiglitzracing866
      @hugostiglitzracing866 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@MegaRayland to a certain extent that is what youtubers should do. When your opinion is very one sided as it is with many youtubers that love to bash games, it ruins your credibility far worse than being diplomatic does.

  • @DaniMacYo
    @DaniMacYo 6 месяцев назад +10

    Mate listen, you need to realise that Forza was built from the ground up 🤣
    But seriously though man I love Gran Turismo 7 PD are just so good with their attention to detail and their patience they really take their time creating a masterpiece and it shows.

  • @1980venom
    @1980venom 6 месяцев назад +8

    Don’t forget that GT7 is a crossgen game. Can’t wait for the next Gran Turismo for current gen only!

    • @petarslavoroduzasny
      @petarslavoroduzasny 6 месяцев назад +3

      It even looks and runs great on the regular ps4, wich is impressive.

  • @nadeemb3300
    @nadeemb3300 6 месяцев назад +13

    As a Forza player I'm happy to see so many videos calling out motorsport. This game was built on the same engine as horizon which looks so much better. Graphically, it's very disappointing.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +3

      I think they see Forza Horizon as their strength in the Forza franchise now, and they have prioritized it over FM23.

    • @Rene-jv7rf
      @Rene-jv7rf 6 месяцев назад

      @@AutomotiveVP Cause an arcade game is easy to build, the car detail is not there, for instant, in Horizon when a car lands on his roof the underside of the car is just a black surface, no detail at all. And i dont understand that Horizon is so praised, theyr are better open world arcads game out there. MUNCH BETTER.

    • @Rene-jv7rf
      @Rene-jv7rf 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah...Nadeem....built from the ground up.....my ass😂

  • @Blu8Diccie2
    @Blu8Diccie2 6 месяцев назад +6

    I stopped playing forza, cause I feel like they fell short of car models.. GT gives me a boner every time i see these comparisons

  • @Dazer95
    @Dazer95 5 месяцев назад +1

    Just from the thumbnail I already knew which one was which😂😂 there’s just something about GT7👏🏾

  • @stephen7627
    @stephen7627 6 месяцев назад +5

    gran turismo attention to detail is still unmatched , the shaders , colors and lightings are just more realistic , the only thing it lacks is in race ray tracing

  • @OctavioVLT
    @OctavioVLT 6 месяцев назад +4

    Forza is the perfect example of why game pass ruins the quality of games. Terrible outdated models, missing shifting animations, lack of detail...If it'll just be thrown onto a sub, a lot of complacency starts to creep in. Why bother? It's a race to the bottom to make something good enough instead of as great as possible.

    • @weplayvrgames
      @weplayvrgames 4 месяца назад +1

      Exactly they focus isn't how do we make a great game for players it's how do we make this profitable on gamepass , cutting costs , cutting corners can't stand that anti consumer garbage if they actually had to sell Forza then maybe they would have tried harder

  • @petarslavoroduzasny
    @petarslavoroduzasny 6 месяцев назад +3

    Playing gran turismo since gt4. Even the psp version. There is no series that still delivers this high standard of quality like gran turismo. And even when you think it cant get better, they come up with a new gran turismo that makes everything even better than the old one.

  • @Blacklist91
    @Blacklist91 6 месяцев назад +2

    Gamepass Game vs Full Price Game What is better.🤣😂

  • @Aae.X.
    @Aae.X. 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank ❤you for including my comment😢MUCH LOVE-MEEP THESE VIDEOS UP- specially with your commentary

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад

      You're more than welcome! 🤜🤜,thank you for being a part of my motivation 💙

  • @Sojiira
    @Sojiira 6 месяцев назад +4

    100% not adding a starter when in vr cockpit is a missed opportunity for some sweet immersion

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yea, not sure why they would not add this!

  • @houseking9211
    @houseking9211 6 месяцев назад +2

    why is everything in fm8 so flat, it's like nothing has any anbient lighting, and the reflections are horrible

  • @valeriypupkin
    @valeriypupkin 5 месяцев назад

    I became a fan of this series not so long ago, and when GT7 came out I was disappointed that there are quite a few cars compared to GT6 where there were more than 1000.
    But with such elaboration and quality of cars it is easy to forgive them, you can spend hours looking at the car

  • @divinitygaming8673
    @divinitygaming8673 6 месяцев назад +1

    Forza is to GT7 what Lords of the Fallen is to Dark Souls.

  • @andreasmoller9798
    @andreasmoller9798 6 месяцев назад +9

    Even with newest cars for forza witch still can look good, dosen’t quite able to match gt7 detail, and when you out forza old car models in the mix its like campare games 2 gens apart,

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +2

      Also with it being on MAX settings on PC Ultra!

    • @mattianardelli2296
      @mattianardelli2296 6 месяцев назад

      I like to see the difference though, where gt is more focused in the car itself, forza paid more attention to the tracks. I like that difference, no need to trash one in favor of the other (I’m a gt player anyway)

  • @derosiflo6524
    @derosiflo6524 5 месяцев назад

    I love your dialect, are you from Scotland?
    Greetings from Austria

  • @disfunctionalrobot
    @disfunctionalrobot 6 месяцев назад

    Thansk for finally presenting this argument in the way it should have been presented. I was a huge Forza fan, blinded some might say. But I still tried Digital Foundry’s take and it just felt like they (John) had a bias against Forza. But this is the first time I see it properly with enough context. So good!

  • @thehomieteddy
    @thehomieteddy 6 месяцев назад +2

    Please do one with driveclub 🤯

  • @Ricardo29j
    @Ricardo29j 6 месяцев назад

    the black screen is only happens when you leaving the player area the real physical area i think you can zoom much more if you increase the player area

  • @tashriquekarriem8865
    @tashriquekarriem8865 6 месяцев назад +4

    At this point they might as well remaster Forza 2

  • @trevorwhitham6742
    @trevorwhitham6742 День назад

    Will graphics match on a console?

  • @asikbanget5041
    @asikbanget5041 6 месяцев назад +2

    PSVR7 + GT7 is amazing

  • @shenron9988
    @shenron9988 6 месяцев назад +1

    Do the Tofu next

  • @ThroughJermainesLens
    @ThroughJermainesLens 5 месяцев назад +1

    Again the moddeling team did an amazing job on GT!

  • @andyvecchiarelli2998
    @andyvecchiarelli2998 6 месяцев назад +2

    gt7 shits on forza for all time

  • @AllOutNoobHater
    @AllOutNoobHater 6 месяцев назад

    Does everyone remember when FM4 or 5 had the showroom feature on Xbox 360, and the cars had proper reflections in the paint? THAT was Forza at its peak. That’s when Motorsport and Horizon was fun and damn good. Now, it just feels like both games are arcades that share models in order to decrease the time it takes to make a new game.
    On the GT side, it now takes them quite a few years to release a new game because the developers CARE. From GT1 to now, all they’ve cared about was making the best racing sim possible that is easily accessible for everyone.

  • @CincoDurosGaming
    @CincoDurosGaming 6 месяцев назад +5

    gt7 is insane!

  • @TuttuTheDog
    @TuttuTheDog 6 месяцев назад +4

    Could you please do the comparison with Bugatti Chiron? fm's looks terrible, will be cool comparision lol. SUBBED! awesome dedication dude good luck

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад

      I'm a bit broke in Forza and GT at the moment, but I will definitely do it for you! Stay tuned, mate. Also, thank you :) It means a lot! I have the car for GT but I modded the shit out of it ahhah

    • @TuttuTheDog
      @TuttuTheDog 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@AutomotiveVP ah okay! thank you man :D love ur vids so much

    • @TuttuTheDog
      @TuttuTheDog 6 месяцев назад

      @@AutomotiveVP the chiron in fm is so funny lmao, you can fit your hands inside that huge grill size 😂

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад

      @@TuttuTheDog Appreciate the love! I’m dying to check out the Chiron now in both games, with my comparison lenses 😂😂

    • @TuttuTheDog
      @TuttuTheDog 6 месяцев назад

      @@AutomotiveVP 😂

  • @albofarm
    @albofarm 6 месяцев назад +4

    GT7 IS AWEEEEESOOOME

  • @Hurachan550
    @Hurachan550 6 месяцев назад

    "Built from the ground up!"

  • @Gabriel-dj3kf
    @Gabriel-dj3kf 6 месяцев назад +3

    I cannot have both a good PC and a PS5, so I have a great PC because I can play more games and of course the highly moded AC, but I'm very disappointed with Forza. It does not look close to GT and the performance is very poor. Like AC looks real life on my PC. I'll buy a PS5 to play GT someday.

  • @Jakuzziful
    @Jakuzziful 5 месяцев назад

    Ive seen enough to think GT7 is hands down the better and realistic looking game.
    But Im all in for a in deep physics comparison. I think this would be much harder to show and communicate -kind of - objectively, hope you pull it off.

  • @jordangordon2350
    @jordangordon2350 5 месяцев назад

    the fact that GT7 looks so much better despite the fact that it's running on a 4 year old console just speaks to how much more Polyphony cares than Turn10. (or how much more Microsoft is crunching and handicapping them)

  • @ailwyngregory1716
    @ailwyngregory1716 6 месяцев назад +2

    Got to appreciate GT has had numerous updates to make it what it is today, FM is about 2 months old with plenty of updates to come...

    • @ihavewaited90daystochangem51
      @ihavewaited90daystochangem51 6 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah but gran turismo 7's visuals or graphics haven't changed from launch, which is what we're comparing here.

    • @highpriest90
      @highpriest90 6 месяцев назад +4

      Not to mention that gt is CROSS PLATFORM!!! not a fully fledge ps5 title. Let that sink in. Forza was built from the ground up for current gen

    • @Rene-jv7rf
      @Rene-jv7rf 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@highpriest90 yeah, that built up from the ground up...was a lie and they got exposed

    • @Rene-jv7rf
      @Rene-jv7rf 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@ihavewaited90daystochangem51 Noppe GT7 had great outstanding graphics from day one. What the problem is with first party games from Xbox is the culture of dump a game with many problems....and try to fix them later. And Xboxfans fans dont care, and thats wrong with the mindset of Xboxfanboys.. You should demand from MS to do better..release games in a great state and not fix them later games....for instant Halo Infinite, Starfield, Redfall, Forza Motorsport any many more🤔

    • @ihavewaited90daystochangem51
      @ihavewaited90daystochangem51 6 месяцев назад

      @@Rene-jv7rf you're replying to The wrong Guy, i'm on gran turismos side here.

  • @MRHOTCAKE
    @MRHOTCAKE 5 месяцев назад

    I am a PC/Xbox Fan, but I have PS4 too, and I need to admit those Gran Turismo games are made with a lot more "love" than the Forza series

  • @luigihatesyou4217
    @luigihatesyou4217 5 месяцев назад +1

    Don’t get me wrong Forza look and plays good but GT has always been far more superior and has always been the more premium product compared to the competition

  • @AllOutNoobHater
    @AllOutNoobHater 6 месяцев назад

    To see the valve inside the exhaust on GT7 is an INSANE detail. The developers of GT know that the gamer is going to see every part of the car, so why not model it properly? Forza had squared seats, for no reason, whereas GT7 has properly modeled seats. Unreal.

  • @nathanieltolbert1973
    @nathanieltolbert1973 6 месяцев назад

    I feel like some Forza cars like iffy because they port models over from previous games versus making new models from the ground up every time.

  • @daygon128
    @daygon128 5 месяцев назад

    Neither game's visuals can touch Driveclub. That game is still insane 10 years later.

  • @AffalterbachV8
    @AffalterbachV8 5 месяцев назад +1

    And even the fact that GT7 supports VR while FM doesn‘t is a huge extra point for GT7.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  5 месяцев назад

      I say this all the time! VR is a game-changer, and videos don't do it justice.

    • @AffalterbachV8
      @AffalterbachV8 5 месяцев назад

      @@AutomotiveVP I don‘t know why Game Devs don‘t add VR support additionally. I know in general it‘s Not so easy to implement this but as a big Game Company it shouldn‘t be that hard, you know? Imagine for example FH5 with VR or a GTA with proper VR Mode.

    • @weplayvrgames
      @weplayvrgames 4 месяца назад

      ​@@AffalterbachV8Xbox aren't interested in vr more concerned with manipulating it's audience into gamepass where they have all the control , they don't care about your enjoyment just keep giving them money monthly own nothing and be happy is they logic

    • @olavofernandes7286
      @olavofernandes7286 3 месяца назад

      @@AutomotiveVP it's is it brings you closer to a car you may have or cannot afford irl

  • @wurrbm
    @wurrbm 5 месяцев назад

    the one thing forza (horizon 5, because I think it's not even in motorsport) got better than gran turismo is the ray tracing thing that can show the reflection of the parts of the car on itself. like: rear view mirrors, spoilers, kanards, anything that sticks out really.

  • @DodgerFloof
    @DodgerFloof 5 месяцев назад

    One thing I do prefer in Forza is the slight orange peel in the paint, though for something like a Ferrari it's a little unrealistic.

  • @YefimStefán
    @YefimStefán 6 месяцев назад +8

    I hope GT7 come to the PC

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +3

      Imagine! It would shake up the entire PC racing community as well!

  • @samgao
    @samgao 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah, I was hyped about Forza. mainly because I couldn't wait to try it in PCVR. Then that wasn't supported. I even pre-ordered it so I can get it a few days early. Then I launched the game, and I thought "This couldn't be that game that they're talking about right? I can't even tell the difference between FM7 Graphics and FM(8) without a special buzzwords. The art is exactly the same, (or at least appeared to me that way), and finally, I haven't even touched forza. They didn't even have the proper tracks I race at except laguna seca. Sure GT does have Streets of Willow and Big Willow, but it's that much more than Forza. And GT accurately models the vegetation in the environment so I can remember my markers. (AC with CM Patch does this too).

  • @saturnFIV3
    @saturnFIV3 18 дней назад

    Forza is still a good game with detail most games don't come close to, it's just that Gran Turismo is so far ahead of all the other Sim racers there really isn't a comparison. Why we still don't have clutch on controller is beyond me.

  • @garyr5866
    @garyr5866 6 месяцев назад +3

    Don't hate on this guy. At the end of the day, he's a 'kar' enthusiast

  • @Black11Fenix
    @Black11Fenix 6 месяцев назад +10

    Good job! Forza was the reason I bought Xbox. They are excellent since 360, Motorsport and Horizon. The problem is that they are too "Arcade", they have something of a simulation but it's not enough to beat the GT. Since GT7 came out I haven't stopped playing it. So since I bought the PS VR2, the pleasure and immersion have become even better. Attention, I'm not saying that I don't like the Forza saga, I have many hours playing Motorsport and Horizon. But I've already driven 300 hours or more in the GT7 and I'm not going to stop so quickly.
    I'm not a Sony or Microsoft fanboy, I'm just a gamer who likes to enjoy good games, but against facts there are no arguments. Gran Turismo 7 was a huge "leap", and for anyone who is a fan of cars, it is a work of art, a visual and audible symphony. Good games everyone and take care. Peace!

    • @user-jy6ol4xp3m
      @user-jy6ol4xp3m 2 месяца назад +1

      Said like a true warrior and a man of taste

    • @Black11Fenix
      @Black11Fenix 2 месяца назад

      @@user-jy6ol4xp3m thanks for your words! I just gave my humble opinion, for its worth. Warrior in everyday of my life, i am for sure, always trying to be better then the day before. Man of taste, well it will depend the opinion of others😄 not everybody likes the same🤷🏻‍♂️✌🏻Peace!

  • @italocassini
    @italocassini 5 месяцев назад +1

    omg, I never saw this kind of comparison, it seems gt7 crushes forza in these details... and the fact you're showcasing it in VR is mindblowing, it should look awful in comparison, but they manage to keep the details at least in the showroom. (foveated rendering making it's magic)

  • @AntiBellum
    @AntiBellum 6 месяцев назад

    GT7 makes me wish I had a 4K HDR monitor ngl

  • @tapatsos
    @tapatsos 6 месяцев назад +1

    gt7 carss are on another lvl no comparison needed at all. Forza cars are like made 10 years ago are even worse than gt sports cars XD

  • @terrancecollins2696
    @terrancecollins2696 5 месяцев назад

    Gran Turismo even renders the damn exhaust flaps inside of the pipes … this is insanity

  • @MussaleenMamad
    @MussaleenMamad 3 дня назад

    They can't put too much detail for support lagacy AVX-1 hardware on FM8. Compare to GT7 that maybe they build game on AVX-512 vector extention.

  • @ruvikillusions3064
    @ruvikillusions3064 6 месяцев назад +1

    I've only seen a few of your videos and you have been completely honest and fair. I agree with everything you've said so far. And honestly the proof is seriously there. Right there in front of our eyes. Xbox and their exclusives live off of their name and that's about it. PlayStation and their groundbreaking exclusives live up to their name. I personally don't touch my Xboxs anymore. I played them for so long and have thousands of games but I'm ashamed to admit I ever played Xbox more than PlayStation. Sure the 360 was better overall than the PS3 but barely and that's it. PlayStation and GT are in a complete different category. I'll probably never touch assbox again. Personally. Keep up the great work and don't let those blind Microsoft obsessed kids get ya down. You know what you know.

  • @barbarianzg8826
    @barbarianzg8826 5 месяцев назад

    i never went into Forza but,i know of what you speak of and i can see at Forza flaws of details,like on ps4 the checkerboard resolution,which pc community immediatelly reffered as terrible,but,at the end,i don't care if some tinny details aren't perfect but they look good and feel good,after a while,lol..playing Horizon Zero Dawn 7y ago at 2160p and it was amazing💪

  • @themistoclesr.r8926
    @themistoclesr.r8926 5 месяцев назад

    GT7 é fotorealista, e o mais incrível é que é um jogo crossgen contra um next gen

  • @micThurrr
    @micThurrr 5 месяцев назад

    Its more than just the model its the shading as well.

  • @fatass699
    @fatass699 6 месяцев назад

    It could be next Gen. With a time machine 20 years ago. Also, I would like to see a wheel animation comparison.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад

      Explain what you want me to check out and I will do it for you!

    • @fatass699
      @fatass699 6 месяцев назад

      Thank you very much. Thanks for the quick response too. Much appreciated. When you are on track with a car in forza if you pan the camera so you can see the car from the side, slowly accelerate from stopped and check the wheel animation as you speed up. They use an ancient 90s tech which i have seen only in need for speed 1 for msdos/2D and forza. @@AutomotiveVP

  • @tr3v98
    @tr3v98 6 месяцев назад +7

    Turn10... what a disappointement! I really hope we can get GT7 on PC.

    • @antnation747
      @antnation747 5 месяцев назад

      Sony will never let it happen, for this exact reason. People like me, who are considering getting a playstation because of how much better a job Gran Turismo is doing. Forza is the only Xbox exclusive game I have. So if I jump ship I wouldn’t lose anything, and Sony knows there’s a lot of people like me. Only thing really keeping me is gamepass.

  • @sebastianovitturi2746
    @sebastianovitturi2746 6 месяцев назад +1

    Are you a car enthusiast?

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +1

      I would lean more towards being a car game enthusiast with an enthusiastic interest in real-life cars. I wouldn't say I'm a professional or know-it-all car enthusiast, but I have a deep love for cars, so yes.

  • @victorio681
    @victorio681 8 дней назад +1

    Forza is very very superior that GT7
    Forza is the best
    Without a doubt, Forza surpasses GT7 in all sections by the minimum, but that's how it is friends.

  • @XGPLAYZ
    @XGPLAYZ 6 месяцев назад

    Me too! Preordered it! BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP, maybe at this point they could refund us and make it for Xbox game pass.

  • @kadonde5366
    @kadonde5366 5 месяцев назад

    isso porque o GT7 apresentado ainda esta no modo VR ! e ainda assim consegue ser melhor graficamente

  • @ViceVizionz
    @ViceVizionz 6 месяцев назад

    As someone who loves to look at games as much as I like playing them, thank you for this video, forza really disappointed with this one, sticking to gt7 for now

  • @xflynskywlkr27
    @xflynskywlkr27 6 месяцев назад

    Both gt7 and Forza motorsport are exceptional racing games, gamers today are just spoiled. I remember playing gt1 on ps1 and having the time of my life never having experienced something like that before. Todays games have much better graphics, physics, changing weather, multiplayer on and on yet all we hear is bitching about one thing or another. Give it a rest

  • @pikkyuukyuun4741
    @pikkyuukyuun4741 5 месяцев назад

    just imagine, if forza really was groundbreaking being built from yhe ground up, PD wouldve felt pressure to release gt7 on pc by now

  • @terrylu4894
    @terrylu4894 5 месяцев назад

    I really don't like the exaggerated glowing reflections inGT7. hope there's an option to turn it off in next patch

    • @olavofernandes7286
      @olavofernandes7286 3 месяца назад

      There is no but irl when sun shines it does glare just depends on sun's position

  • @NANOmasion
    @NANOmasion 5 месяцев назад

    We can say that Gran Turismo 7 is a simulation that uses the accelerated rendering engine. In this way, material calculations and shadow calculations are better. I don't understand why this comparison is made so often. One is art, I don't know what the other is, it makes me sick to my stomach.

  • @mcflu
    @mcflu 5 месяцев назад

    For a very long time I felt as if Turn10 was actually trying to make good games, and I always enjoyed the Motorsport games. I never got much into FM7 so I was very excited for the new one. I knew it would be a struggle because I played a ton of FH4 and FH5 I still play all the time. Then I got the new Motorsport and I just find it very difficult to play it, the excitement is very much not there like it use to. Mind you at the same time I grew up getting into console sim racing because of GT, but I have had no interest to play a GT game either. I am very disappointed with Turn10 and I really hope they do everything they can to actually update and improve this game over time.

  • @Reason4Termination
    @Reason4Termination 5 месяцев назад

    you are actually correct. I only played Forza because of gamepass PC, and Granturismo 7 looks way better. The Japanese are just that meticulous and perfectionists. Western devs (and even car manufacturers) are just sub par.

    • @weplayvrgames
      @weplayvrgames 4 месяца назад

      You don't actually support that anti consumer trash gamepass do you ?!?

  • @kaedeschulz5422
    @kaedeschulz5422 4 месяца назад

    You can really tell that the Forza devs put no effort in while GT goes all out!

  • @stephenfortin9485
    @stephenfortin9485 6 месяцев назад

    I feel GT overdoes the lighting and blooming tbh. Aslo what res are you doing it at? have you played with resolution scale?

    • @shingosshojiopoulos6608
      @shingosshojiopoulos6608 6 месяцев назад +1

      I can agree with that, cars do look like they have a ceramic coat on them most of the time

  • @chicken636
    @chicken636 6 месяцев назад +1

    Forza has always had a "cartoon" look to their cars, and a ton of people used to say that it looked better than the equivalent year GT. I never shared that opinion. To me, GT has always had better looking cars.

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +3

      I have held the same view as you; I don't understand how people say it looks more realistic and better than GT

  • @Aaron-is9xo
    @Aaron-is9xo Месяц назад

    I play project cars three now instead of Forza. Better car models and better sounds, the cars feel so real and tracks have bumps. It’s not the highest on graphics but it’s 4 years old haha

  • @EeekiE
    @EeekiE 5 месяцев назад

    It’s like the difference between getting an actual PlayStation 5, and the Chinese lookalike PowerStation 5 your nan gets you for Christmas from the dodgy market because it includes 100 built in games, where as the real one is expensive and doesn’t even include a game.

  • @erickpalacios8904
    @erickpalacios8904 6 месяцев назад

    Wait till they start adding smells to these consoles. Then you'll actually _smell_ what it's like sitting in a brand new Ferrari too 😅

  • @vervietta_gsx1300r
    @vervietta_gsx1300r 5 месяцев назад

    people just don't understand that we critizise the things we love because we want them to be better and not because we hate them. we compare them to the competition not to put them into the ground but for them to go better or even surpass the competition. we want things to be competitive otherwise all we get is generic trash.

  • @pierremigneault
    @pierremigneault 4 месяца назад +1

    I think Forza motorsport 7 is better looking than the new one... Am I crazy ?

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  4 месяца назад +1

      No not at all, I uploaded a video showing this also 😅

  • @Johan92Johansson
    @Johan92Johansson 6 месяцев назад

    If you get offended by someone esle opinion you are the crazy one. Think about this before complaining about a creator who decides to share hes/her own opinion. I have been a Forza guy from F2-F5 but I just got GT7 and I totaly agree. My brother has Forza Motorsport on series X so I have seen the diffrece myself. I guess the reasion for lower quality cars is becuase they might be ported from the horizon 5 game. Great video I like these comparisons

  • @mattmattmatt8984
    @mattmattmatt8984 5 месяцев назад

    Forza has always been an arcade game to me, especially with the physics. When GT3 was all the rage I had my copy on reserve at Electronics Boutique. When I finally picked up my copy, I bought my first PS2. Forza never compared.
    Edit: The only gripe I've really had with the GT series is too much reverb on the engine sounds. Not enough raw grunt.

  • @haisthuilu
    @haisthuilu 3 месяца назад

    gt is allways my heart i love it 😃

  • @antnation747
    @antnation747 5 месяцев назад

    If Sony asked Polyphony to make a horizon style game alongside gran turismo, the forza franchise and Xbox as a whole would lose a LOT of money. Especially because you KNOW polyphony would set at least the first one in Japan, imagine their attention to detail in the environment they would have. It would be the most scenic video game of all time.

    • @olavofernandes7286
      @olavofernandes7286 6 дней назад

      Kazunori yamauchi mention he is not interested in gran turismo being open world game it highly unlikely

  • @johngoncalves4738
    @johngoncalves4738 5 месяцев назад

    Hi there, I tend to agree with you. There is a difference between the two games. GT is slightly better. Very close, but it is one step ahead. Only a blind man can't see it. Talking about the visuals of the games. Although, Im a PC gamer, so GT means nothing for me. And FM looks very good, anyway. Hope they come up one step next game out. But for now Im more than happy. Thanks for your vid. Cheers, mate.

  • @OmerFarukAlbayrak06
    @OmerFarukAlbayrak06 6 месяцев назад +2

    Next one is Will be Mclaren F1?

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +1

      I have to do some racing to afford it; I've spent almost all my money! But I definitely have it in my sights for you. Is it the McLaren P1 GTR?
      It was supposed to be before this video, but when I went to buy it, I noticed I was too broke. Hahah!

  • @legendhs7305
    @legendhs7305 6 месяцев назад

    atp get a ps4 and compare it to max graphics forza it will prolly lose but it would be amazing to see how much it holds up

  • @nitramartin
    @nitramartin 6 месяцев назад +1

    Pony eyes! That's what you see it through! 🐴

  • @MrJORDANnumba1
    @MrJORDANnumba1 6 месяцев назад

    dont the graphics lose quality in the vr?

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +1

      Not in the show room, in race, they don't have the car models as good as that, but your can't really tell Not in the showroom, but in the race, the car models aren't as high-quality. However, it's hard to notice the difference during gameplay.

    • @MrJORDANnumba1
      @MrJORDANnumba1 6 месяцев назад

      @@AutomotiveVP wow I'm surprised there able to maintain that level of quality now compared to the ps4 be it's night and day

    • @AutomotiveVP
      @AutomotiveVP  6 месяцев назад +1

      They did an unbelievable job! It's crazy good! So much fun online too@@MrJORDANnumba1

  • @stephenfortin9485
    @stephenfortin9485 6 месяцев назад

    Forgot to add ... GT is on a playstation ... Forza is on PC and Xbox Series X ... the big difference here is .. needs to run on hundreds of thousands of hardware combinations .... GT .. just one ..

  • @aaronjaggan
    @aaronjaggan 6 месяцев назад

    To me...why Forza looks like its always in Autumn?