I have a special place in my heart for 15, and always will, that being said, it was rumored that 15 was supposed to be a triology much like FF7, and I'm wondering if that trilogy treatment could atone for some of the flaws i.e. outside media & characters are rushed cause there just wasn't enough time or events to have the gradual growth. FF7 is not complete story wise so it doesn't feel the need to be rushed on the character front - theres still room for them to grow and its not like all of their troubles have to be resolved by the 30 hour mark. I think this allows them to have more "genuine" moments rather than exposition dumps. I think FF7 has multiple benefits going for it which has made it "objectively better" among the majority: being an older title with an established fanbase, and the Final Fantasy name riding on its back - I think that alone makes 7 something important on the financial side of Square, so they had to ensure the quality of it (such as redeveloping it in house). I can yield that FF7 remake is the objectively better game in terms of polish. Despite it all, I FFXV is still such a special game to me, and it'll always rank among my favorites.
I had never heard of that. I always heard XV was supposed to be *part* of a trilogy with 13 and Type-0. That being said, I don't think it needed a trilogy, as someone who loved the game, it just needed more work. All those Episode DLCs and the Royal Pack and all those events most of which you cant even access anymore especially reaffirm my belief that for however much I love the base game, and I can't emphasize that enough, it'll forever feel fragmented and it's a mistake that should never happen again. That being said, I think 7R is overall the better game, at the very least the better more polished experience, although so far I'm still entirely preferring 15's story and themes, and the recent trailer for Rebirth hasn't changed my mind on that.
Great comparison and a little history of the series. 15 real confused me with how many extra things they added on (movie, etc.) to get the entire story. Think 7 has just become too iconic at times that it will always get that extra love by the developer. Not a bad thing I might add.
Ya, I agree. 15 honestly can be confusing with how much extra material you had to see to understand it. Because of how iconic 7 is. It’s always going to get quite a bit of attention. I love 7 so I don’t mind though. Thanks for the comment!
13:00 I always dislike this argument because yes while you can play the entire game holding square, spamming warp strike and spamming potions, does it not occur to you your clearly playing the game wrong if your going down so much, dont you want to learn to play without constantly going down and needing to spam heals.
I’d give ff15 magic a deeper look before writing it off completely. Yes it’s not needed to beat the game or most of its enemies. But for those who want to deal 100k damage, reach lv 100+, and defeat the games hidden dungeons and hardest bosses, magic is ESSENTIAL. You can reach max lv 120 with all characters, I dare anyone to try without magic. (Don’t try without magic, you’ll give up or spend years trying)
Are you joking lmao? Almost everyone I heard of bashed 15 for all it's worth, while giving endless praise to FF7. FF7 is clearly the better game both the original and the remake combined...
Eh the combat tho just felt lack luster for me it had no impact. Like there where just too many enemies that where just damage sponges that shouldn't have been. Also the lack of being able to properly grind irritated me.
@@deftestaphid2026 fr, felt like FFXV combat has more strategy you actually have to play pretty smart, where as in ffvii remake it was just button mashing, combos were repetitive and boring. They should had left the game too cyber connect like they intended too the combat would have been all types of great but no they switched it too the dog water luminous engine because there dumb.
@@LuisRamos-oe6te tbh some ppl just prefer to have complete control of their characters lol personally I can’t stand turn based strategy combat, I like being in complete control of my character, whether it’s button mashing or not I like being in 100% control of what I’m doing it makes me feel more immersed. And doing too much grinding in a game can cause some people to lose interest in the game because some just want to keep progressing through the story not have to put in an extra 70 hours just to level up for a boss fight. Some of us just don’t have time or energy to be going crazy like that lol but everyone’s different
@@LuisRamos-oe6te tbh some ppl just prefer to have complete control of their characters lol personally I can’t stand turn based strategy combat, I like being in complete control of my character, whether it’s button mashing or not I like being in 100% control of what I’m doing it makes me feel more immersed. And doing too much grinding in a game can cause some people to lose interest in the game because some just want to keep progressing through the story not have to put in an extra 70 hours just to level up for a boss fight. Some of us just don’t have time or energy to be going crazy like that lol but everyone’s different
15 was the first Final Fantasy game I liked in years since 10 I didn’t like 12 or the 13 games so it holds a special place in my heart. 7 Remake was definitely better though. Better gameplay, better characters, better music, etc. Wish they could re release 15 with everything in the game. None of that need to watch external media rubbish.
Okay let me start by saying FF15 is the first FF game I finished since the original FF7 when it first released on PS one. No game captivated me like 15 did in a long long while. Something about it just hooked me. After playing this I jumped into FF7 remake. I have to be honest here, I didn't have that same feeling. I was playing the game as if I was supposed to love it rather than actually loving it. I'm not saying it's bad. I know it's an amazing game but I enjoyed FF15 so much that it 7 didn't do it for me. I stopped my play a bit into it while I got stuck in the subway battle. Not sure if I'll go back but FF15 wins my heart.
I just finished FF7 remake and this video popped up. Great video! In my case, FF7R is not a bad game but I think it suffered too much from being overhyped and shot my expectations up waaay too high. I might get hated for this but... I started FF7 remake right after XV after hearing so many people going 'FFXV sucked' 'FFXV's combat is the worst' 'FF7 remake is the best, its a masterpiece' 'Noct is boring and emo, Cloud is the best boy' 'FFXV's story is stupid and rushed' etc etc. I've never played the original FF7 but I did know the story from way back when so there's no nostalgia in it for me. I thought it was going to be super amazing and hella convinced it was going to be worth my money. I was really sold on FF7R being the greatest FF ever made and......wow okay, how do I put this nicely? Erm....its basically Final Fantasy Hallway Simulator. After jumping in from FFXV, FF7R was so bland and lifeless. Midgar, Shinra HQ and Aeriths house was so nice to see, but just to get from point A to Point B was so so unnecessarily padded and dragged on and on. And after awhile, the copy pasted slums and ruins got a tad bit old. XV had so much banter, things to do, even the loading screens had more life than FF7R. It was just corridor after pointless corridor and absolutely banal dialogue of just Barret yelling at you. I love Tifa to bits, shes IS the best girl, but I felt her and Aerith's personality were stripped to be just Cloud fangirls. Side quests were kinda pointless in FF7R as well. And this is coming from me who LOVED chapter 13 of FFXV -- i mean at one point, abusing the need to go round corridors just to stretch out gameplay is just too much. And somehow the same people who say FFXIII is the worst love FF7R, a game that was infamous for linear corridors too. I also enjoyed the extra media we got from FFXV-- it was so fun to be immersed in the world again and to see it in different styles. The combat in FFXV was hella addictive with Noct's warping and as soon as I finished FF7R, I jumped back into FFXV and boy was it a breath of fresh air. XV story made me ugly sob so hard my eyes were swollen the next day and wishing we had more, whilst FF7R made me cheer with relief it finally ended. I'm really jealous of those who enjoyed FF7R, i truly truly wanted to love it.
No other Final Fantasy games can beat FFVII setting, it's a dystopian industrialized future, something that could exist. Other Final Fantasy games have this futuristic utopia feel with colors and bright things. Not to mentioned the combat system for 7 Remake is the most satisfying one ever.
Thank you for this. I am nearing the end of FFVIIR and am considering playing 15. This was an incredibly helpful objective comparison of the 2 games. I was worried the 15 may be too hard for me as I'm still a noob (7R was the first time I played with a playstation controller) If combat mechanics are easier in 15 then that's a positive in my books! I think remake will always have a special place in my heart, but I'm certainly up to being open-minded about other Square Enix games. No game is perfect, and I feel it's about the memories we make while playing them
You’re absolutely right, it’s about the memories we make with a game. There’s no right way to play a game as long as you’re enjoying it. If you can play FF7R, you can definitely play 15. I hope you enjoy 15, I certainly did. Also, before playing 15, you should watch the movie Kingslaive because it has info important to understanding the story of the game. Also, maybe watch the brotherhood anime too because it fleshes out the characters and at the same time is pretty short. Also, get the Royal edition because it comes with additional content to the game that’s pretty important to the experience in my opinion. Thanks for watching the video!
@@lightknight172 thank you, I actually watched Kingsglaive when it came out (and a couple times since!) as I enjoyed the Final Fantasy world through it's movies before I started gaming. But I will definitely give it a rewatch before I play the game. You've also got yourself a new subscriber, I hope to see more awesome content from you :)
@@chonkobochic2291 I would say stick with it. In the beginning, I wasn’t the biggest fan of the game either. But the more time I invested in the game. The better it got.
FFXV actually delivered on it's name, as the journey as a whole ended up being a "final fantasy" for Noctis, he knew there would be nothing after it for him, but still went on with it. Combat wise FF7R did better job personally, the boy squad felt kind of dull to use as you would mostly just spam attack and blink with Noctis and it didn't feel as enjoyable as stuff that you could pull of in FF7R.
I’m really glad I found this video. I was thinking on getting started on the Final Fantasy games and looked it up for what is the story behind it, the best games and all, and got to the conclusion I should start with either 7 remake or 15, but didn’t know which as I was confused on how much they are alike and different, as some say good and bad things about either (some of which that are totally non important details to me) But with this video I have a better vision of both of them. I personally don’t think too much of graphics and music in most of games, and enjoy quite a lot open worlds rather than liner based. (I enjoy both, but open worlds are personally better) So I guess I’ll start with 15 whenever I get the chance and maybe later on try out 7 remake. Thanks for the help. Great video.
I liked both equally for really different reasons. XV was my introduction into the series and I just loved the exploration and the gigantic boss fights. It was however a lackluster main story but I feel like most of the problems were fixed in DLC. VII R on the other hand had amazing graphics, a solid story, and my personal favorite FF combat system. What was lacking in this game for me was the side quests and exploration. But I love both even with their flaws.
@@djw_tekken8490 the dlcs weren’t open world tho?? Gladio dlc was a straight line and so was Ignis. Promptos dlc was open in the final act so it doesn’t really count.
I agree with everything you said, except the padded out argument, I don't understand that argument, more is better for a game you love, FFXV is also padded out too if you want to get the full experience. That being said both game are amazing, I gotta say FFXV took me by surprise the second time I played it, I loved it more the second time around than the first, and I think that's where the problem begins, most people play a game once for the story and moves on, unfortunately that's not a good first impression when you're missing 70% of the game. You need to play all the side quests and all the dlc to truly appreciate the game, the game is more about taking your time and exploring, so you'll be rewarded with 100+ hours of gameplay. But most people will rush through the story in 30 hours or so, and it will be filled with plot holes, where the player will not get attached to the characters or the impactful scenes. To me that's FFXV biggest design flaw, while FF7R forces the player to experience the full game from start to finish, I think that the best approach for the games going forward.
You raise a lot of great points. From my point of view, in 15. All of the dlc’s are for the most part concise and to the point. There isn’t too much down time in the dlc’s. They’re properly paced. Also, there were a lot of pointless side missions in the game that didn’t add much to the overall experience. My issue with the padding in 7 remake isn’t that I don’t want more out of the game. It’s that the sections in the game where that have padding are in my opinion. Dull and I feel like they don’t add anything to the game. They just feel like filler. So I think it would’ve been better if they were trimmed down. That said. I see where your coming from. You made a lot of great points.
In the words of Pootis Engage Heavys. "Both, both is good." I loved 15, and as of recently obtaining 7 Remakes, it's blown me away to the point that I'm not even done and I'm planning on getting 7 Rebirth.
After I finished FF VII Remake and Rebirth, a friend recommended XV to me. And I have to say that the 15 has grown on me even more than any other part I've played. I love open world, real-time battles and I don't even need to start with the Regalia (Type D). When I think of FFVII's graphics, the wall.jpg 😅 of Midgar is always the first thing that comes to mind. In the 15th, everything is "alive" up to the horizon and the day-night cycle also brings in dynamism. And I also particularly like the little things, such as Noctis getting dirty from fighting and fishing, or his hairstyle no longer being neat due to the rain. I also like the dynamic between the guys more. In the 7, I'm particularly bothered by the whining and pushy nature of Tifa's character. The story of 15 is a bit confusing, I don't want to contradict that, but since I know or have all the media around, I can figure out the connections. The story of 7 is largely known, but now the changes make the story more complicated for players who know the original. Since I've found Zack to be my favorite FFVII character since Crisis Core, I'm naturally very excited to see how he fits into the whole story. All in all, I'm really looking forward to the third part of the 7. But the 15 will probably remain number one for me for the time being.
Somnus is a legendary song. U can recognize it from the first 3- 5 notes. My only disappointment with 15 is that the story could have been so much better and the combat flow could have been smoothed out a bit more. Otherwise I feel it beats ff7 remake in every other aspect, the linear story reeling in ff7 and it’s side missions were boring, the combat is good but it feels like they got ff15 and tweaked it to the point of it being too rigid. The sense of leveling your character is more of an illusion than a realist mechanic. What held me together was ff 7s story, it even had an epic beginning
I think ff13 is better than both of them. The story and characters are far more fleshed out and has alot more going on. And it has a fast and fluid turn based system. Also it looks phenominal still on pc and xbox one/series s/x. I like all ff games but ff13 is actually alot better than people give it credit for. Also original ff7 is my favourite ff overall.
I dove into the novel prequels and into the ff13 wiki to get a full understanding of what its about since I've recently been revisiting all the FF games. I still dont think the story was told very well in the game itself since a lot of it is out of order but I do agree having a full understanding of the story makes it one of the best FF games. I actually prefer it to FF7 now after a replay but that came with outside sources helping me to get better character development (books) and a comprehensive story (ff13 wiki) but to anyone who just plays the games without outside sources then FF7 is better as a standalone. To be fair no game should make you read a book to help you care for its characters.
The FFVII Remake is more focused in one place Midgar if you didn't play the original FFVII 3 disc game you don't know why the disc 1 part is only in Midgar but when FFVII Rebirth will come it will be on open world it will be like the FFXV travelling to the 🌎
As someone whose first JRPG was FFVII and who grew up with the series, Remake was a once in a lifetime experience and the kind of game I doubted present day Square Enix was capable of making. It's not perfect - I hated how they handled certain plot elements, especially when they diverged from the original (Intergrade was better about this - you know what I'm referring to) but overall, the soundtrack, visuals, characterisation and combat were all top notch. XV on the other hand, I never finished, though that was more due to memory leak/crashing issues on the PC version. It's a radical departure from more traditional entries in the series, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. But I can feel the development hell as I play it. The open world is cool and all, but once the novelty value wears off, it just feels a bit too barren for my tastes. The story has its moments but it's too disjointed for me (separate DLC episodes, Kingsglaive, etc). Points for effort though.
15 is better for long term play, as in going back for short bursts of gameplay. Also FF7R has the worst narrative I’ve ever experienced. An absolute snoozefest of a story. The story for FFXV actually kept me invested- then again, I am talking about the complete Windows edition with all the DLC (not counting Ardyn). Got FF7R Intergrade for pc too, but I’m seriously considering skipping the main game and playing the Intergrade chapter instead. Never have I been so disappointed by hype as I have by FF7’s story. I blame the rabid fanbase for this, as well as myself from having watched Advent Children and played Crisis Core to 100% completion twice…
I love both. I actually feel like i like 15 more. It feels like a full complete FF game to me. 7 remake is just midgar. Its like 10% of FF7. Its still good but its often VERY slow. Some annoying chapters. Idk i like 15 more. 7R feels closer to 13 to me. Its often just hallways. 15 is never that. Im free to tackle side quests and missions, and just free to explore wherever i want.
7 remake definitely has some annoying segments. 15 definitely gave you a greater amount of exploration and free choice for sure. I still prefer 7 remake. But you’re point is definitely valid.
FFXV simply because it does not have the awful dialogue from ff7r. Not to mention the novel retcon fixed the entire xv story by making ardyn the true hero of the story.
I didn't play FF15 on launch. I waited for the royal edition to go on sale and nabbed the Arden Chapter all for a criminally low price of 8 bucks. I was blown away with the freedom included. I was used to overworld with a tight focus on it's narrative but with 10 I felt it going a way I just wasn't into. I tried 13 and was just so bored with it. I wasn't into what 14 had to offer but 15 had my attention. I was in the dark with the FF13 Versus so I had no idea about the turbulent production of 15 but I do not regret my purchase. 7 Remake on the other hand I just wasn't into on announcement and am not impressed with what I see of it. I love the classic 7 and I was in the minority with not wanting a remake at all. Not because it's special but I just feel Square needs to make more original content and stop milking nostalgia. Sorry if that was long.
@@lightknight172 I don't dislike it, I just know it's not my cup of tea. It's mainly the voice acting, I just feel that Cloud lacks conviction and Sephiroth sounds like he's trying too hard. I know that sounds petty but the original cast left a huge impression. This new one doesn't, I really want to get Crisis Core Reunion but the voice cast has changed and Zack sounds flat. I wish I wasn't so picky but I might give 10 and 10-2 another go.
Hey what's that game where the devs killed their most prestigious character by having him beat to death by a trann e with a 5 iron? Oh? That's your favorite PS4 game?
Cloud Strife will use his big sword to beat the bad guys! YAAAAAA!!!!! Ahem. I prefer FFVII remake to the original. I want actual full control over my characters and not to have them just stand there and take hits and hit back. I suppose that’s why I also liked 15, action RPG for me anyday.
FF15 is good in a lots of ways. But Combat is a bit clunky and a bit buggy most of the time. FF7 Remake on the other hand have solid combat system. But overall both games were good by their own rights
13 was not bad lol, the issue is the battle system takes hours to build up. If it was opened up from the beggining than It would not have been a issue.
FFXV walked so FFVII Remake could run. I've played both and i'm staying with XV, it mean more much to me despite not reaching it's whole potential: The story, the characters, the world and lore.
I love 15 it's just hard to pull it off open world gorgeous graphics , with a complete story the hate it gets from purist is undeserved. That being said I really hate it how all ff games moving forward will be 3 part series . That's why right now I'll just wait for 7 remake series to complete then buy the package 😂
As a Final Fantasy fan the answer is easy play both. But ff7R is a lot closer to old ff games with a strong story, great characters and beautiful designed maps which leave a lasting impression.
I prefer XV. XV is my favorite. It just everything I wanted from a Final Fantasy since VIII. A contemporary aesthetic, a free form combat with multiple weapons along side seamless team ups with your Chocobros. An immaculate soundtrack penned by Yoko Shimomura. A tragic story about legacy and brotherhood. The game is as long or are brief as you want it to be and most of all, it has heart. I replayed Remake recently and while an outstanding game on to itself, it's a game that stands on the shoulders of something that was already successful. It's music interpretations can become obnoxious and the pacing, particularly chapter 14th, make me dread any repeat playthroughs while FFXV has no such thing for me. I rather 100 times explore Costlemark Tower in search of the Sword of the Tall than play through the Drum and have to swap materia back and forth.
Amazing video, great work, keep it up. However, I would like to say that I am not sold on any Final Fantasy, mostly due to the character models and play style. I am not a JRPG person and it's too late to shift. Bring be Witcher, RDRs, Mass Effects, Dragon Ages, Cyberpunk or DOS any day everyday. Out of the two you compared, I like the FFXV more due to its open world however could not finish it. Also, I am one of the minorities to say it out loud that I hated Elden Ring but loved Sekiro just for the opposite reason (you appreciate an open world when there are things you can do in it, other than padding your stats). Nonetheless, I appreciate and respect that we all have different opinions and that's what makes this world beautiful and interesting.
I totally respect your opinion on Final Fantasy. It’s definitely not for everyone. Thanks for the nice words and being respectful when voicing your opinions!
As a somewhat ironic contrast, I on the other hand am typically a JRPG lover (and prefer VII Remake), but I also adored Elden Ring and played it to death. Of course, I also love Sekiro, though. While I also enjoy WRPGs, my interests were more along the lines of Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, KotOR and later, Divinity: Original Sin. I kind of drifted away from it by the time Mass Effect was even a thing. I do need to go back and play Witcher 3 though.
I've played almost every FF, but OG7 is the best to me. Nothing like a evil madman set on crashing a metor into the planet, Ultron must of been a fan as well. Crisis Core also my favorite made me tear up, Zack paved the way for cloud and the crew.
Final Fantasy 15 is better coz it’s one story contained to one game, rather than splitting one game over 3 and stretching it so extremely thin, that they have to create ways to waste your time to stop you finishing the game too quickly. I know this doesn’t mention Rebirth as it wasn’t out at the time of this coming out but man the story is so thin in that and filled with time wasting aspects that I’m not getting the 3rd part.
Love both of these games dearly. FFXV’s story holds a special place in my heart and is my all time favorite final fantasy. But still FF7R is by far the better game, the combat system is miles ahead and the story is much more cohesive. Now let’s just hope FFXV can get a remake too in 30 years lol
I just beat ff15 last night. I’m a huge final fantasy guy! Played them all and by god sir… I agree. FF15 impacted me so much. Especially Noctis’ voice actor AND the OST.Loved 7, 8, 9and 10 as well. They’re all masterpieces!
Wtf homie!? Big fan of FFXV here and i like the video concept, but you got to throw up a spoiler alert or something before you insert almost the entirety the most emotional scene in the game. Titling the chapter just don't cut it😮
Yes you're absolutely 200% right Final Fantasy 13 is the WORST Final Fantasy ever! Final Fantasy 15 is the best in my entire life! Because of full action RPG no need to wait and getting sleepy As for JRPG style I'm preferred Final Fantasy 9 & 12 because the characters design, Music Score, & Graphic, FF9 & FF12 is the winner as JRPG
I don’t think I’d go as far as to say that Final Fantasy 13 is the worst Final Fantasy ever. Glad you also like 15. 9 and 12 definitely have great character designs, music and an awesome art style.
Final Fantasy XV is too sad story. The only time Noctis meet Lunafreya is the moment she gone away. The FFXV main theme Somnus is truly epic which reach the goddess like in the final screen when Luna summon all god to help the King of light.
@@lightknight172 i think this game would be much better if the developer give player a chance to save Lunafreya when we can use the dog to travel back. The main story maybe said, but it should have the happy ending if player can unlock some specific masteries.
Was not a huge fan of FF15 but It does seem like it served as a ladder to make FF7R really good. Feels like FF is going into a new golden era now with all the projects coming up. FF7R part 2 and 3. FF16. Potential FF9 remake and anime. Potential FFX-3
IAm looking into getting playing 7 remake and 15. The only final fantasy I’ve played was 8. But i like the new combat system . Should i play 7 remake or 15 first .
Personally, I would go with 7 Remake. I think it’s more linear structure makes it easier for a newcomer to get into. I also think 7 Remake has a better story and better combat. But, without delving into spoilers, I’d recommend playing the original Final Fantasy 7 first before you play 7 Remake. I can’t really tell you why without going into spoilers. But trust me, it will make the experience of 7 Remake that much better.
@@lightknight172 no it wouldn't it would leave him tasteless because they literally cut the game in 4 parts, it's better he play the remake because honestly it's gonna ruin the experience as it did for me. So stfu.
During the part of the video where I mentioned 13 and how fans reacted to it. I was only trying to say the reception among a large portion of fans at launch. There were a lot of fans who really enjoyed 13 then and there a lot of fans that enjoy it now. And that’s great! All that matters is that you enjoy a game. If you do that’s awesome and thats what counts in the end!
I desparately wanted to like FFXV when it came out but It's just awful. The driving and exploring with the boys and the music were the best parts but everything around it just falls apart. I actually dropped it back then for a time and continued when they issued patches that addressed later parts of the game but I wish I just skipped it outright and saved myself the time.
I understand the criticism about the "padding" in FF7R, but I personally really only had a problem with Chapter 11 and 14. Chapter 11 should not have had that side story with the ghosts and I think it would have been better as a side quest. Returning to the sewers in chapter 14 does not add much imo, the backstory with Leslie could have been told elsewhere. Chapter 6 is nothing special liked the small amount of lore and visual storytelling in the chapter. FF7R is definitely the better game to me.
i played final fantacy 15 and some mission later delete the game naver was tha fan of the series but ps plus includes 7 remake so i had to try it out loved the game still playing at chapter 8 i am enjoying it so far gameplay and story both are good love it
FFXV had so much potential, multiple dlcs, multimedia storytelling, and masses of cut content, made it a disjointed mess. Honestly, I don't get the love it gets 😅
I really liked 15 a lot, but the combat in that game was the worse I've ever played. I couldn't even tell if I was contributing anything or if characters were just attacking on their own accord. I just got to chapter 9 in FF7 remake last night and 7 is already so much better. 15 had a way better story though. I'm not thrilled about playing a terrorist in 7, it wouldn't be so bad if Barret didn't feel so justified in blowing up kids
Both are great but ffxv was and will stay incomplete. If all dlc content was out maybe xv. And vii remake is planned right from the beginning. More characters more variety etc..
Man I have this hope that after square enix is done with ff16 and the ff7 trilogy. They go back and "remake" ff15. Not a full on remake but if they go back And make extra content make the DLC that's missing and in that novel Try to make the events in the movie take place in the game, have a op character moment playing as the king or something. Give us a younger noctis area to play in or multipal playable flashbacks that develops noctis relationships with luna and the king. Ff15 was such a good game with so much more potential that it failed to deliver and thats with its story because there's so much outside media to take it all In but if you do that, there's a very good story with alot of lore They don't gotta start over the main game is already there basically im asking make 3 or 4 more DLCs, and make the in game story transition naturally into the dlc sections Keep everything the royal edition had. I think its possible for square now that the sold off the extra fat tomb raider, dues ex, etc and can focus on the types of games they do best which this summer game fest they announced 3 big games, Shows they can pump out good games fast again now. I really hope they go back and do this I would honedtly buy the game for full price a third time lol
In my opinion no "DLC" or patches can truly "fix" FF15. If they were to try and go back to improving it they might as well remake the game from the ground up like they did with FF7...
@@Player-jh4ko I agree that no patches can massively change the game for sure. It is what it is I suppose. I still quite liked the game. But ya, they would have to remake it to massively change things.
idk wym, evveryone i know thinks 13 is the sickest ff, first actually HD FF sick lore, sick characters, sick world, sick gameplay o_O duh fuq u tawkin bout, you watched a couple hate vids and let them decide your oppinion? what if i made an i love ff13 vid and u watched that one? it would make all those ppl who made videos abt raging on 13 look pretty stale dont ya think
As far as a new ff, 15 pretty good as far as a new Ff, best one in a long time for me. With that said theres some things i don't like, the open world is pretty empty, and the car riding just takes control right out of your hands as you just sit there. Ff 7 remake i thought eas pretty damn amazing, with that said i dont like skme of the filler side quests, you can tell they are filler, and gkin through snaky pathways to mask ps4 load times, make the layout and design of midgar a little off.
idk I feel like FF7R was really cheesy. FFXV the dialogue was a lot better. And the battle systems aren't all that different. And FF7 was very still in comparison.
I've played 7, 8, 9, 10, 10-X, 12, 13, 15, 7R. I can tell you 12 was my lease favourite, and 13 was straight up blasphemy for me. 7, 8, 10, 15 were my favourite. If have to pick a special, it would be 8 for me. All the bad reviews i read and watched about 15 was mostly people who didn't play it correctly. 15 is not rushed or incomplete in my opinion. It's meant to be played differently than other in the series. 15 is meant to be explored and enjoyed non linearly. Most of the story, lore, and character developments are woven into the open world side quests and hidden explorations. I racked up over 200 hours in a single playthrough, there's just so much content. That's not even counting the DLCs.
final fantasy 13 and Final Fantasy 7 Remake and world final fantasy are the best in the world and Final Fantasy 15 it had a lot of crushing problems and final fantasy 15 i don't know it looks hard to leave up in the game and the monster are hard too and the game is too big and I gave final fantasy 15 5 out of 10 and final fantasy 13 i like the battle systems you don't have to move around and it easy and final fantasy 15 battle systems is not that good and 15 is the it worse game and final fantasy 13 did really well Reply
FF fans can be difficult to talk to since they are so divided by what they consider a good final fantasy game and dont like it when you don't like their game. FF7 in particular brings the worst, most annoying fans I've ever had the displeasure of talking to.
I have to credit XV with making Final Fantasy relevant to me again. I’m not an MMO guy and I did not enjoy XII or XIII. So yeah, XV was a breath of fresh air for me. With that said, FFVII Remake was a mind blowing masterpiece and legitimately one of the greatest games I’ve ever played. This isn’t even a real contest for me.
Thanks for watching. Sorry I haven't been posting normal videos on a regular basis. I'll be doing my best to post more frequently from now on!
I have a special place in my heart for 15, and always will, that being said, it was rumored that 15 was supposed to be a triology much like FF7, and I'm wondering if that trilogy treatment could atone for some of the flaws i.e. outside media & characters are rushed cause there just wasn't enough time or events to have the gradual growth. FF7 is not complete story wise so it doesn't feel the need to be rushed on the character front - theres still room for them to grow and its not like all of their troubles have to be resolved by the 30 hour mark. I think this allows them to have more "genuine" moments rather than exposition dumps. I think FF7 has multiple benefits going for it which has made it "objectively better" among the majority: being an older title with an established fanbase, and the Final Fantasy name riding on its back - I think that alone makes 7 something important on the financial side of Square, so they had to ensure the quality of it (such as redeveloping it in house). I can yield that FF7 remake is the objectively better game in terms of polish. Despite it all, I FFXV is still such a special game to me, and it'll always rank among my favorites.
Me too, the ending story, i’ve never cried so hard playing game like FFXV. And always special in my heart
I had never heard of that. I always heard XV was supposed to be *part* of a trilogy with 13 and Type-0. That being said, I don't think it needed a trilogy, as someone who loved the game, it just needed more work. All those Episode DLCs and the Royal Pack and all those events most of which you cant even access anymore especially reaffirm my belief that for however much I love the base game, and I can't emphasize that enough, it'll forever feel fragmented and it's a mistake that should never happen again. That being said, I think 7R is overall the better game, at the very least the better more polished experience, although so far I'm still entirely preferring 15's story and themes, and the recent trailer for Rebirth hasn't changed my mind on that.
@robincmiwiw6454 cry? let me introduce you to FFX
Could’ve should’ve would’ve. We only have what is released. 🤷🏻♂️
Great comparison and a little history of the series. 15 real confused me with how many extra things they added on (movie, etc.) to get the entire story. Think 7 has just become too iconic at times that it will always get that extra love by the developer. Not a bad thing I might add.
Ya, I agree. 15 honestly can be confusing with how much extra material you had to see to understand it. Because of how iconic 7 is. It’s always going to get quite a bit of attention. I love 7 so I don’t mind though. Thanks for the comment!
13:00 I always dislike this argument because yes while you can play the entire game holding square, spamming warp strike and spamming potions, does it not occur to you your clearly playing the game wrong if your going down so much, dont you want to learn to play without constantly going down and needing to spam heals.
i play both, but FF XV is better ... many sidequest and has alot of things to do
I’d give ff15 magic a deeper look before writing it off completely. Yes it’s not needed to beat the game or most of its enemies. But for those who want to deal 100k damage, reach lv 100+, and defeat the games hidden dungeons and hardest bosses, magic is ESSENTIAL. You can reach max lv 120 with all characters, I dare anyone to try without magic. (Don’t try without magic, you’ll give up or spend years trying)
I’m new to the series but XV I just couldn’t get into. VII Remake hooked be instantly
VII Remake is definitely easier to get into than XV.
It's hardly a competition. Even a FFVII purist would be hard-pressed to argue that XV is a better game. And I actually enjoyed XV for what it was.
I enjoyed 7 Remake more than 15. But like I said in the video. I really think both games in the series are great!
Are you joking lmao? Almost everyone I heard of bashed 15 for all it's worth, while giving endless praise to FF7. FF7 is clearly the better game both the original and the remake combined...
@@Player-jh4ko Read what I wrote again. We're in agreement.
I swore off jrpgs a long time ago and I think FFVII remake is a masterpiece. There is no competition.
Remake was a masterpiece for sure. Glad you enjoyed it!
Eh the combat tho just felt lack luster for me it had no impact. Like there where just too many enemies that where just damage sponges that shouldn't have been. Also the lack of being able to properly grind irritated me.
@@deftestaphid2026 fr, felt like FFXV combat has more strategy you actually have to play pretty smart, where as in ffvii remake it was just button mashing, combos were repetitive and boring. They should had left the game too cyber connect like they intended too the combat would have been all types of great but no they switched it too the dog water luminous engine because there dumb.
@@LuisRamos-oe6te tbh some ppl just prefer to have complete control of their characters lol personally I can’t stand turn based strategy combat, I like being in complete control of my character, whether it’s button mashing or not I like being in 100% control of what I’m doing it makes me feel more immersed. And doing too much grinding in a game can cause some people to lose interest in the game because some just want to keep progressing through the story not have to put in an extra 70 hours just to level up for a boss fight. Some of us just don’t have time or energy to be going crazy like that lol but everyone’s different
@@LuisRamos-oe6te tbh some ppl just prefer to have complete control of their characters lol personally I can’t stand turn based strategy combat, I like being in complete control of my character, whether it’s button mashing or not I like being in 100% control of what I’m doing it makes me feel more immersed. And doing too much grinding in a game can cause some people to lose interest in the game because some just want to keep progressing through the story not have to put in an extra 70 hours just to level up for a boss fight. Some of us just don’t have time or energy to be going crazy like that lol but everyone’s different
15 was the first Final Fantasy game I liked in years since 10 I didn’t like 12 or the 13 games so it holds a special place in my heart. 7 Remake was definitely better though. Better gameplay, better characters, better music, etc. Wish they could re release 15 with everything in the game. None of that need to watch external media rubbish.
15 and 7 Remake are both great! Ya, it would be cool if there was a way to get the full 15 experience without needing all of the external media!
Better characters? Really?
Okay let me start by saying FF15 is the first FF game I finished since the original FF7 when it first released on PS one. No game captivated me like 15 did in a long long while. Something about it just hooked me. After playing this I jumped into FF7 remake. I have to be honest here, I didn't have that same feeling. I was playing the game as if I was supposed to love it rather than actually loving it. I'm not saying it's bad. I know it's an amazing game but I enjoyed FF15 so much that it 7 didn't do it for me. I stopped my play a bit into it while I got stuck in the subway battle. Not sure if I'll go back but FF15 wins my heart.
I just finished FF7 remake and this video popped up. Great video! In my case, FF7R is not a bad game but I think it suffered too much from being overhyped and shot my expectations up waaay too high. I might get hated for this but...
I started FF7 remake right after XV after hearing so many people going 'FFXV sucked' 'FFXV's combat is the worst' 'FF7 remake is the best, its a masterpiece' 'Noct is boring and emo, Cloud is the best boy' 'FFXV's story is stupid and rushed' etc etc. I've never played the original FF7 but I did know the story from way back when so there's no nostalgia in it for me. I thought it was going to be super amazing and hella convinced it was going to be worth my money.
I was really sold on FF7R being the greatest FF ever made and......wow okay, how do I put this nicely? Erm....its basically Final Fantasy Hallway Simulator. After jumping in from FFXV, FF7R was so bland and lifeless. Midgar, Shinra HQ and Aeriths house was so nice to see, but just to get from point A to Point B was so so unnecessarily padded and dragged on and on. And after awhile, the copy pasted slums and ruins got a tad bit old.
XV had so much banter, things to do, even the loading screens had more life than FF7R. It was just corridor after pointless corridor and absolutely banal dialogue of just Barret yelling at you. I love Tifa to bits, shes IS the best girl, but I felt her and Aerith's personality were stripped to be just Cloud fangirls. Side quests were kinda pointless in FF7R as well.
And this is coming from me who LOVED chapter 13 of FFXV -- i mean at one point, abusing the need to go round corridors just to stretch out gameplay is just too much. And somehow the same people who say FFXIII is the worst love FF7R, a game that was infamous for linear corridors too. I also enjoyed the extra media we got from FFXV-- it was so fun to be immersed in the world again and to see it in different styles.
The combat in FFXV was hella addictive with Noct's warping and as soon as I finished FF7R, I jumped back into FFXV and boy was it a breath of fresh air. XV story made me ugly sob so hard my eyes were swollen the next day and wishing we had more, whilst FF7R made me cheer with relief it finally ended.
I'm really jealous of those who enjoyed FF7R, i truly truly wanted to love it.
im still playing ff15 with the royal edition and the no experience band it adds a new level of challenge for sure
No other Final Fantasy games can beat FFVII setting, it's a dystopian industrialized future, something that could exist. Other Final Fantasy games have this futuristic utopia feel with colors and bright things. Not to mentioned the combat system for 7 Remake is the most satisfying one ever.
FFXV has so much issues yet it’s the most unforgettable story along with FF6 and FFX.
Thank you for this. I am nearing the end of FFVIIR and am considering playing 15. This was an incredibly helpful objective comparison of the 2 games. I was worried the 15 may be too hard for me as I'm still a noob (7R was the first time I played with a playstation controller) If combat mechanics are easier in 15 then that's a positive in my books!
I think remake will always have a special place in my heart, but I'm certainly up to being open-minded about other Square Enix games. No game is perfect, and I feel it's about the memories we make while playing them
You’re absolutely right, it’s about the memories we make with a game. There’s no right way to play a game as long as you’re enjoying it. If you can play FF7R, you can definitely play 15. I hope you enjoy 15, I certainly did. Also, before playing 15, you should watch the movie Kingslaive because it has info important to understanding the story of the game. Also, maybe watch the brotherhood anime too because it fleshes out the characters and at the same time is pretty short. Also, get the Royal edition because it comes with additional content to the game that’s pretty important to the experience in my opinion. Thanks for watching the video!
@@lightknight172 thank you, I actually watched Kingsglaive when it came out (and a couple times since!) as I enjoyed the Final Fantasy world through it's movies before I started gaming. But I will definitely give it a rewatch before I play the game.
You've also got yourself a new subscriber, I hope to see more awesome content from you :)
@@fyrebird5898 Thanks for the sub!!!
how's it going with 15? I'm in a similar position. I've just finished ff7R and am playing ff15. I'm NOT loving it 😅
@@chonkobochic2291 I would say stick with it. In the beginning, I wasn’t the biggest fan of the game either. But the more time I invested in the game. The better it got.
FF7rebirth is the only reason I buy PS5
same
I liked 15 more just bc you had way more stuff you could do on that game but I did enjoy 7 remake I have high hopes for ff7 rebirth
FFXV actually delivered on it's name, as the journey as a whole ended up being a "final fantasy" for Noctis, he knew there would be nothing after it for him, but still went on with it. Combat wise FF7R did better job personally, the boy squad felt kind of dull to use as you would mostly just spam attack and blink with Noctis and it didn't feel as enjoyable as stuff that you could pull of in FF7R.
Ya, FF7R by design isn’t a complete story. Unlike 15 which has a beginning, middle and end. I also agree that FF7R has better combat.
I’m really glad I found this video. I was thinking on getting started on the Final Fantasy games and looked it up for what is the story behind it, the best games and all, and got to the conclusion I should start with either 7 remake or 15, but didn’t know which as I was confused on how much they are alike and different, as some say good and bad things about either (some of which that are totally non important details to me)
But with this video I have a better vision of both of them. I personally don’t think too much of graphics and music in most of games, and enjoy quite a lot open worlds rather than liner based. (I enjoy both, but open worlds are personally better)
So I guess I’ll start with 15 whenever I get the chance and maybe later on try out 7 remake. Thanks for the help. Great video.
Glad to help. I would also recommend getting the Royal Edition of 15 as that edition comes with all of the dlc.
I liked both equally for really different reasons. XV was my introduction into the series and I just loved the exploration and the gigantic boss fights. It was however a lackluster main story but I feel like most of the problems were fixed in DLC. VII R on the other hand had amazing graphics, a solid story, and my personal favorite FF combat system. What was lacking in this game for me was the side quests and exploration. But I love both even with their flaws.
XV was my first game in the series too!
@@lightknight172 that’s awesome! After playing most ff games I still feel XV was a good starting place
@@lightknight172 10 was my first, but my current order is 15>16>7 crisis core>10>7 of the ones I've played
Bruh ffxv base has more story than clouds identity lmao the dlcs alone have more open world
@@djw_tekken8490 the dlcs weren’t open world tho?? Gladio dlc was a straight line and so was Ignis. Promptos dlc was open in the final act so it doesn’t really count.
I agree with everything you said, except the padded out argument, I don't understand that argument, more is better for a game you love, FFXV is also padded out too if you want to get the full experience. That being said both game are amazing, I gotta say FFXV took me by surprise the second time I played it, I loved it more the second time around than the first, and I think that's where the problem begins, most people play a game once for the story and moves on, unfortunately that's not a good first impression when you're missing 70% of the game. You need to play all the side quests and all the dlc to truly appreciate the game, the game is more about taking your time and exploring, so you'll be rewarded with 100+ hours of gameplay. But most people will rush through the story in 30 hours or so, and it will be filled with plot holes, where the player will not get attached to the characters or the impactful scenes. To me that's FFXV biggest design flaw, while FF7R forces the player to experience the full game from start to finish, I think that the best approach for the games going forward.
You raise a lot of great points. From my point of view, in 15. All of the dlc’s are for the most part concise and to the point. There isn’t too much down time in the dlc’s. They’re properly paced. Also, there were a lot of pointless side missions in the game that didn’t add much to the overall experience. My issue with the padding in 7 remake isn’t that I don’t want more out of the game. It’s that the sections in the game where that have padding are in my opinion. Dull and I feel like they don’t add anything to the game. They just feel like filler. So I think it would’ve been better if they were trimmed down. That said. I see where your coming from. You made a lot of great points.
In the words of Pootis Engage Heavys. "Both, both is good." I loved 15, and as of recently obtaining 7 Remakes, it's blown me away to the point that I'm not even done and I'm planning on getting 7 Rebirth.
After I finished FF VII Remake and Rebirth, a friend recommended XV to me.
And I have to say that the 15 has grown on me even more than any other part I've played.
I love open world, real-time battles and I don't even need to start with the Regalia (Type D).
When I think of FFVII's graphics, the wall.jpg 😅 of Midgar is always the first thing that comes to mind.
In the 15th, everything is "alive" up to the horizon and the day-night cycle also brings in dynamism.
And I also particularly like the little things, such as Noctis getting dirty from fighting and fishing, or his hairstyle no longer being neat due to the rain.
I also like the dynamic between the guys more.
In the 7, I'm particularly bothered by the whining and pushy nature of Tifa's character.
The story of 15 is a bit confusing, I don't want to contradict that, but since I know or have all the media around, I can figure out the connections.
The story of 7 is largely known, but now the changes make the story more complicated for players who know the original.
Since I've found Zack to be my favorite FFVII character since Crisis Core, I'm naturally very excited to see how he fits into the whole story.
All in all, I'm really looking forward to the third part of the 7. But the 15 will probably remain number one for me for the time being.
Somnus is a legendary song. U can recognize it from the first 3- 5 notes. My only disappointment with 15 is that the story could have been so much better and the combat flow could have been smoothed out a bit more. Otherwise I feel it beats ff7 remake in every other aspect, the linear story reeling in ff7 and it’s side missions were boring, the combat is good but it feels like they got ff15 and tweaked it to the point of it being too rigid. The sense of leveling your character is more of an illusion than a realist mechanic. What held me together was ff 7s story, it even had an epic beginning
I personally think 7 Remake was better 15 in more than a few ways, but I totally respect your opinion!
Agreed with SOMNUS tho what a magical sound ❤❤❤
I think ff13 is better than both of them. The story and characters are far more fleshed out and has alot more going on. And it has a fast and fluid turn based system. Also it looks phenominal still on pc and xbox one/series s/x.
I like all ff games but ff13 is actually alot better than people give it credit for.
Also original ff7 is my favourite ff overall.
Totally respect your opinion. FF7 is probably my favorite FF game overall too!
I dove into the novel prequels and into the ff13 wiki to get a full understanding of what its about since I've recently been revisiting all the FF games. I still dont think the story was told very well in the game itself since a lot of it is out of order but I do agree having a full understanding of the story makes it one of the best FF games. I actually prefer it to FF7 now after a replay but that came with outside sources helping me to get better character development (books) and a comprehensive story (ff13 wiki) but to anyone who just plays the games without outside sources then FF7 is better as a standalone. To be fair no game should make you read a book to help you care for its characters.
I also respect your opinion but FF7 is the most iconic FF ever existed for me no other game beats. FFVII had more franchises than any other FF game.
Final Fantasy XV is the best. Open World is the best in Final Fantasy World.
It’s a true gem!
The FFVII Remake is more focused in one place Midgar if you didn't play the original FFVII 3 disc game you don't know why the disc 1 part is only in Midgar but when FFVII Rebirth will come it will be on open world it will be like the FFXV travelling to the 🌎
@carlosdias7125
FF15 still better than FF7 Rebirth 💀
@@504Trey rebirth is arguably top 10 games ever
Finally bought both of them since they're on sale right now!
Great decision!
Great video man! Glad to see you back
Thank you so much for the support!
I will never get the 13 hate, especially if you look at the trilogy as a whole, to me it was way better than 12
I see where you’re coming from. This video is in no way meant to hate on the 13 trilogy. A lot of people love the 13 trilogy and that’s amazing!
As someone whose first JRPG was FFVII and who grew up with the series, Remake was a once in a lifetime experience and the kind of game I doubted present day Square Enix was capable of making.
It's not perfect - I hated how they handled certain plot elements, especially when they diverged from the original (Intergrade was better about this - you know what I'm referring to) but overall, the soundtrack, visuals, characterisation and combat were all top notch.
XV on the other hand, I never finished, though that was more due to memory leak/crashing issues on the PC version. It's a radical departure from more traditional entries in the series, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. But I can feel the development hell as I play it. The open world is cool and all, but once the novelty value wears off, it just feels a bit too barren for my tastes. The story has its moments but it's too disjointed for me (separate DLC episodes, Kingsglaive, etc). Points for effort though.
15 is better for long term play, as in going back for short bursts of gameplay. Also FF7R has the worst narrative I’ve ever experienced. An absolute snoozefest of a story. The story for FFXV actually kept me invested- then again, I am talking about the complete Windows edition with all the DLC (not counting Ardyn). Got FF7R Intergrade for pc too, but I’m seriously considering skipping the main game and playing the Intergrade chapter instead. Never have I been so disappointed by hype as I have by FF7’s story. I blame the rabid fanbase for this, as well as myself from having watched Advent Children and played Crisis Core to 100% completion twice…
Honestly it was me but the other way around with 15. Took me a few chapters to even get invested with the story with the amount of downtime there was
I love both. I actually feel like i like 15 more. It feels like a full complete FF game to me. 7 remake is just midgar. Its like 10% of FF7. Its still good but its often VERY slow. Some annoying chapters. Idk i like 15 more.
7R feels closer to 13 to me. Its often just hallways. 15 is never that. Im free to tackle side quests and missions, and just free to explore wherever i want.
7 remake definitely has some annoying segments. 15 definitely gave you a greater amount of exploration and free choice for sure. I still prefer 7 remake. But you’re point is definitely valid.
FFXV simply because it does not have the awful dialogue from ff7r. Not to mention the novel retcon fixed the entire xv story by making ardyn the true hero of the story.
I didn't play FF15 on launch. I waited for the royal edition to go on sale and nabbed the Arden Chapter all for a criminally low price of 8 bucks. I was blown away with the freedom included. I was used to overworld with a tight focus on it's narrative but with 10 I felt it going a way I just wasn't into. I tried 13 and was just so bored with it. I wasn't into what 14 had to offer but 15 had my attention. I was in the dark with the FF13 Versus so I had no idea about the turbulent production of 15 but I do not regret my purchase. 7 Remake on the other hand I just wasn't into on announcement and am not impressed with what I see of it. I love the classic 7 and I was in the minority with not wanting a remake at all. Not because it's special but I just feel Square needs to make more original content and stop milking nostalgia. Sorry if that was long.
That wasn’t long at all. I totally respect that you didn’t like remake. Glad you at least liked 15 😀😀😀.
@@lightknight172 I don't dislike it, I just know it's not my cup of tea. It's mainly the voice acting, I just feel that Cloud lacks conviction and Sephiroth sounds like he's trying too hard. I know that sounds petty but the original cast left a huge impression. This new one doesn't, I really want to get Crisis Core Reunion but the voice cast has changed and Zack sounds flat. I wish I wasn't so picky but I might give 10 and 10-2 another go.
My top 5 ps 4 games 🎮:
1.) Last of Us 2
2.) Kingdom Hearts 3
3.) God of War 2018
4.) Final Fantasy 15
5.) Uncharted 4
Great list!
Hey what's that game where the devs killed their most prestigious character by having him beat to death by a trann e with a 5 iron? Oh? That's your favorite PS4 game?
@@ekoms108 Hey, respect other people's opinion pal
The editing in this video is so damn good you've earned a like and a subscriber!
Oh that’s so nice of you. Thank you 🙏 🙏🙏
Cloud Strife will use his big sword to beat the bad guys! YAAAAAA!!!!! Ahem. I prefer FFVII remake to the original. I want actual full control over my characters and not to have them just stand there and take hits and hit back. I suppose that’s why I also liked 15, action RPG for me anyday.
Action RPGs are the best!
FF15 is good in a lots of ways. But Combat is a bit clunky and a bit buggy most of the time. FF7 Remake on the other hand have solid combat system. But overall both games were good by their own rights
13 was not bad lol, the issue is the battle system takes hours to build up. If it was opened up from the beggining than It would not have been a issue.
FFXV walked so FFVII Remake could run.
I've played both and i'm staying with XV, it mean more much to me despite not reaching it's whole potential: The story, the characters, the world and lore.
I love 15 it's just hard to pull it off open world gorgeous graphics , with a complete story the hate it gets from purist is undeserved. That being said I really hate it how all ff games moving forward will be 3 part series . That's why right now I'll just wait for 7 remake series to complete then buy the package 😂
How is this even a debate. Ffxv has a better story, better and more natural characters, better combat, better villain.
False, all false.
Nope I agree
Delusional…
U dude smoking crack😂
This has to be a joke right
Final fantasy 7 remake is the best final fantasy series but I wish they make final fantasy 8 remake too
I hope one day they make ff8r so they can finally fix the junction system. Also squall need to be rewritten to be a better character.
I agree 💯 with your comment FF7 and FF8 are my favorites of the sequel.
FF15 is a good game
But
FF7R is a masterpiece
I really like FF15. But FF7R is just amazing.
As a Final Fantasy fan the answer is easy play both. But ff7R is a lot closer to old ff games with a strong story, great characters and beautiful designed maps which leave a lasting impression.
Playing both is the best answer!
I prefer XV. XV is my favorite. It just everything I wanted from a Final Fantasy since VIII. A contemporary aesthetic, a free form combat with multiple weapons along side seamless team ups with your Chocobros. An immaculate soundtrack penned by Yoko Shimomura. A tragic story about legacy and brotherhood. The game is as long or are brief as you want it to be and most of all, it has heart. I replayed Remake recently and while an outstanding game on to itself, it's a game that stands on the shoulders of something that was already successful. It's music interpretations can become obnoxious and the pacing, particularly chapter 14th, make me dread any repeat playthroughs while FFXV has no such thing for me. I rather 100 times explore Costlemark Tower in search of the Sword of the Tall than play through the Drum and have to swap materia back and forth.
Amazing video, great work, keep it up.
However, I would like to say that I am not sold on any Final Fantasy, mostly due to the character models and play style. I am not a JRPG person and it's too late to shift. Bring be Witcher, RDRs, Mass Effects, Dragon Ages, Cyberpunk or DOS any day everyday.
Out of the two you compared, I like the FFXV more due to its open world however could not finish it. Also, I am one of the minorities to say it out loud that I hated Elden Ring but loved Sekiro just for the opposite reason (you appreciate an open world when there are things you can do in it, other than padding your stats).
Nonetheless, I appreciate and respect that we all have different opinions and that's what makes this world beautiful and interesting.
I totally respect your opinion on Final Fantasy. It’s definitely not for everyone. Thanks for the nice words and being respectful when voicing your opinions!
As a somewhat ironic contrast, I on the other hand am typically a JRPG lover (and prefer VII Remake), but I also adored Elden Ring and played it to death. Of course, I also love Sekiro, though.
While I also enjoy WRPGs, my interests were more along the lines of Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, KotOR and later, Divinity: Original Sin. I kind of drifted away from it by the time Mass Effect was even a thing. I do need to go back and play Witcher 3 though.
I've played almost every FF, but OG7 is the best to me. Nothing like a evil madman set on crashing a metor into the planet, Ultron must of been a fan as well. Crisis Core also my favorite made me tear up, Zack paved the way for cloud and the crew.
Not gonna lie I kinda loved 15 more
That's completely ok. While I personally perferred Final Fantasy 7 Remake. I've seen a decent number online say they liked 15 more.
Me too. I like Open World Final Fantasy
@@alexreindeer3350 Ya, I like open world Final Fantasy too!
Great review dude 💯
Final Fantasy 15 is better coz it’s one story contained to one game, rather than splitting one game over 3 and stretching it so extremely thin, that they have to create ways to waste your time to stop you finishing the game too quickly. I know this doesn’t mention Rebirth as it wasn’t out at the time of this coming out but man the story is so thin in that and filled with time wasting aspects that I’m not getting the 3rd part.
FF VII Remake all the way for me
It’s certainly the better game. In my opinion at least. Still like 15 though.
Love both of these games dearly. FFXV’s story holds a special place in my heart and is my all time favorite final fantasy. But still FF7R is by far the better game, the combat system is miles ahead and the story is much more cohesive. Now let’s just hope FFXV can get a remake too in 30 years lol
I wouldn’t say no to a Final Fantasy XV remake!
I just beat ff15 last night. I’m a huge final fantasy guy! Played them all and by god sir… I agree. FF15 impacted me so much. Especially Noctis’ voice actor AND the OST.Loved 7, 8, 9and 10 as well. They’re all masterpieces!
@@Sammsy1126You guys… are the best
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@@MadDragonify dude how do you feel about ff15 ?
Really good video.
It has to be made.
Thank you for the kind words!
Wtf homie!? Big fan of FFXV here and i like the video concept, but you got to throw up a spoiler alert or something before you insert almost the entirety the most emotional scene in the game. Titling the chapter just don't cut it😮
Yes you're absolutely 200% right Final Fantasy 13 is the WORST Final Fantasy ever!
Final Fantasy 15 is the best in my entire life! Because of full action RPG no need to wait and getting sleepy
As for JRPG style I'm preferred Final Fantasy 9 & 12 because the characters design, Music Score, & Graphic, FF9 & FF12 is the winner as JRPG
I don’t think I’d go as far as to say that Final Fantasy 13 is the worst Final Fantasy ever. Glad you also like 15. 9 and 12 definitely have great character designs, music and an awesome art style.
Noct had the same face as Sasuke and a battle combat of Yondaime in Naruto😊
Final Fantasy XV is too sad story. The only time Noctis meet Lunafreya is the moment she gone away. The FFXV main theme Somnus is truly epic which reach the goddess like in the final screen when Luna summon all god to help the King of light.
It’s certainly a sad story. That’s part of the reason why I like it though.
@@lightknight172 i think this game would be much better if the developer give player a chance to save Lunafreya when we can use the dog to travel back. The main story maybe said, but it should have the happy ending if player can unlock some specific masteries.
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Keep grinding bro
I'm just going to say it. I love 13. Just looking at the scenes makes me emotional because that game was awesome and the story was really good
I'm so glad you loved it.
@@lightknight172 yeah never finished the sequels but I definitely beat that one. It's too bad you couldn't ride the gestalts though
Was not a huge fan of FF15 but It does seem like it served as a ladder to make FF7R really good.
Feels like FF is going into a new golden era now with all the projects coming up. FF7R part 2 and 3. FF16. Potential FF9 remake and anime. Potential FFX-3
IAm looking into getting playing 7 remake and 15. The only final fantasy I’ve played was 8. But i like the new combat system . Should i play 7 remake or 15 first .
Personally, I would go with 7 Remake. I think it’s more linear structure makes it easier for a newcomer to get into. I also think 7 Remake has a better story and better combat. But, without delving into spoilers, I’d recommend playing the original Final Fantasy 7 first before you play 7 Remake. I can’t really tell you why without going into spoilers. But trust me, it will make the experience of 7 Remake that much better.
@@lightknight172 no it wouldn't it would leave him tasteless because they literally cut the game in 4 parts, it's better he play the remake because honestly it's gonna ruin the experience as it did for me. So stfu.
FF13 wasn’t that bad.
During the part of the video where I mentioned 13 and how fans reacted to it. I was only trying to say the reception among a large portion of fans at launch. There were a lot of fans who really enjoyed 13 then and there a lot of fans that enjoy it now. And that’s great! All that matters is that you enjoy a game. If you do that’s awesome and thats what counts in the end!
"We have deserts" *shows forest*
"We have forests" *shows desert*
I desparately wanted to like FFXV when it came out but It's just awful. The driving and exploring with the boys and the music were the best parts but everything around it just falls apart. I actually dropped it back then for a time and continued when they issued patches that addressed later parts of the game but I wish I just skipped it outright and saved myself the time.
I disagree with you. But I still respect that opinion.
I understand the criticism about the "padding" in FF7R, but I personally really only had a problem with Chapter 11 and 14. Chapter 11 should not have had that side story with the ghosts and I think it would have been better as a side quest. Returning to the sewers in chapter 14 does not add much imo, the backstory with Leslie could have been told elsewhere. Chapter 6 is nothing special liked the small amount of lore and visual storytelling in the chapter.
FF7R is definitely the better game to me.
The padding definitely doesn’t ruin the game. The game is still fantastic.
You have lots of channels , or you sound identical to another guy that does PS videos. Superdan?
I’ll be honest. I’m not Superdan. I honestly don’t know who that is. Lol.
Ff15 battle system is inferior to final fantasy 7 remake
Final fantasy 7 overall is a way better game
Agreed!
music at 20:03?
I think the track is called either "Heart of Anxiety" or "Anxious Heart". It's from the original FF7 soundtrack.
I like linear so i can focus in story and combat.
i played final fantacy 15 and some mission later delete the game naver was tha fan of the series but ps plus includes 7 remake so i had to try it out loved the game still playing at chapter 8 i am enjoying it so far gameplay and story both are good love it
Glad you liked 7 remake!
@@lightknight172 its is so good that its making me to visit 15 now will download and give it a another chance too
FFXV had so much potential, multiple dlcs, multimedia storytelling, and masses of cut content, made it a disjointed mess. Honestly, I don't get the love it gets 😅
excellent video
Thank you so much!
I really liked 15 a lot, but the combat in that game was the worse I've ever played. I couldn't even tell if I was contributing anything or if characters were just attacking on their own accord. I just got to chapter 9 in FF7 remake last night and 7 is already so much better. 15 had a way better story though. I'm not thrilled about playing a terrorist in 7, it wouldn't be so bad if Barret didn't feel so justified in blowing up kids
I think 15 looks better than 16. 16 faces look bland with no detail.
Both are great but ffxv was and will stay incomplete. If all dlc content was out maybe xv. And vii remake is planned right from the beginning. More characters more variety etc..
Man I have this hope that after square enix is done with ff16 and the ff7 trilogy.
They go back and "remake" ff15.
Not a full on remake but if they go back
And make extra content make the DLC that's missing and in that novel
Try to make the events in the movie take place in the game, have a op character moment playing as the king or something.
Give us a younger noctis area to play in or multipal playable flashbacks that develops noctis relationships with luna and the king.
Ff15 was such a good game with so much more potential that it failed to deliver and thats with its story because there's so much outside media to take it all In but if you do that, there's a very good story with alot of lore
They don't gotta start over the main game is already there basically im asking make 3 or 4 more DLCs, and make the in game story transition naturally into the dlc sections
Keep everything the royal edition had.
I think its possible for square now that the sold off the extra fat tomb raider, dues ex, etc and can focus on the types of games they do best which this summer game fest they announced 3 big games,
Shows they can pump out good games fast again now.
I really hope they go back and do this I would honedtly buy the game for full price a third time lol
I would pay full price to play an improved version of Final Fantasy 15!
In my opinion no "DLC" or patches can truly "fix" FF15. If they were to try and go back to improving it they might as well remake the game from the ground up like they did with FF7...
@@Player-jh4ko I agree that no patches can massively change the game for sure. It is what it is I suppose. I still quite liked the game. But ya, they would have to remake it to massively change things.
Final Fantasy Versus XIII vs XIII
FF13 TRILOGY is a masterpeice.
idk wym, evveryone i know thinks 13 is the sickest ff, first actually HD FF sick lore, sick characters, sick world, sick gameplay o_O duh fuq u tawkin bout, you watched a couple hate vids and let them decide your oppinion? what if i made an i love ff13 vid and u watched that one? it would make all those ppl who made videos abt raging on 13 look pretty stale dont ya think
As far as a new ff, 15 pretty good as far as a new Ff, best one in a long time for me. With that said theres some things i don't like, the open world is pretty empty, and the car riding just takes control right out of your hands as you just sit there. Ff 7 remake i thought eas pretty damn amazing, with that said i dont like skme of the filler side quests, you can tell they are filler, and gkin through snaky pathways to mask ps4 load times, make the layout and design of midgar a little off.
For some reason the graphics look way better for ff 15
Ez clap for 7. Its way more focused
Final Fantasy lost it after final fantasy 9 they took away massive open world rpg
sinse i been waiting
IMO FF7 is superior in all aspects. FFXV simply had the potential to be infinitely better but the execution was awful.
I think FF7R was definitely better. I still like 15 though.
idk I feel like FF7R was really cheesy. FFXV the dialogue was a lot better. And the battle systems aren't all that different. And FF7 was very still in comparison.
@@lightknight172 If ffxv gets a remake and brings the canceled dlcs into the game then it will be the best ff game ever
I've played 7, 8, 9, 10, 10-X, 12, 13, 15, 7R. I can tell you 12 was my lease favourite, and 13 was straight up blasphemy for me. 7, 8, 10, 15 were my favourite. If have to pick a special, it would be 8 for me. All the bad reviews i read and watched about 15 was mostly people who didn't play it correctly. 15 is not rushed or incomplete in my opinion. It's meant to be played differently than other in the series. 15 is meant to be explored and enjoyed non linearly. Most of the story, lore, and character developments are woven into the open world side quests and hidden explorations. I racked up over 200 hours in a single playthrough, there's just so much content. That's not even counting the DLCs.
final fantasy 13 and Final Fantasy 7 Remake and world final fantasy are the best in the world and Final Fantasy 15 it had a lot of crushing problems and final fantasy 15 i don't know it looks hard to leave up in the game and the monster are hard too and the game is too big and I gave final fantasy 15 5 out of 10 and final fantasy 13 i like the battle systems you don't have to move around and it easy and final fantasy 15 battle systems is not that good and 15 is the it worse game and final fantasy 13 did really well
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I like much more than you did. But 7 Remake was definitely better.
Remake easily.
FF fans can be difficult to talk to since they are so divided by what they consider a good final fantasy game and dont like it when you don't like their game. FF7 in particular brings the worst, most annoying fans I've ever had the displeasure of talking to.
Some fans can definitely be toxic.
from what im gathering from this is 15 is too easy?
Combat is definitely too easy in 15. That’s something I preferred about 7 Remake’s combat.
@@lightknight172 right okay. Yes. Ff7re combat hits me the best too.
@@jjswigger8591 yep!
I have to credit XV with making Final Fantasy relevant to me again. I’m not an MMO guy and I did not enjoy XII or XIII. So yeah, XV was a breath of fresh air for me.
With that said, FFVII Remake was a mind blowing masterpiece and legitimately one of the greatest games I’ve ever played. This isn’t even a real contest for me.
XV got me interested in Final Fantasy so it’s pretty relevant for me. And I agree with you, Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a masterpiece.
@@lightknight172 Absolutely. Keep up the good work, man!
@@cloud1stclass372 Thank you so much 🙏
Of course FF7 remake.b
7 remake was a drag
loved the original ff8, ff14 and than ff7 remake. Never tried 15 because of combat
combat of ff7 remake is better
Do 16 vs 15
Good idea honestly.
@@lightknight172 Thanks hope you do it
FF7 REMAKE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FFXV/FFXVI
Ff7 remake
15 the better game!? NEVER!! 😤