While I dislike Strauss as much as the next guy, it always struck me as odd that people think he’s an outlier in the gang. Every member of the gang killed and destroyed lives. Robbing a bank back then meant stealing the people’s cash, most of which was not insured. Not including the random people killed in the shootouts the gang has with towns. Strauss was a loan shark in a gang full of murderers. Think about Hamish’s cousin by marriage, we don’t know that guy at all. But we’re completely fine outright stealing his life’s savings. The truth is that all these people are guilty. It’s probably that Strauss is an ugly uncharasmatic character. I mean a high honor Arthur may have a sense of honor in defending his chosen family but he still ruins countless lives. I love Arthur and cry every time he dies, but let’s be honest with ourselves. If the Van Der Lind gang were real, we’d all want to see them swing.
It's funny how far people go to say Charles or any other person in the gang was good, they were all killers. None of them have high honor or are good people. People tend to only dislike the people the game makes you dislike.
@@Speltric well I would say there’s a definite hierarchy. I know Arthur and John both canonically kill plenty of innocent people, I’m not sure Charles or Kieren or even Hosea have. Charles definitely does seem to have a code of honor. He goes against Dutch and other members of the gang when they push him to do evil shit later in the game. Hosea seems to be a major moral compass for Dutch. But yeah characters like John and Arthur, while more noble and honorable than other members, definitely get the protagonist pass. They’re our stand in, and by extension, a version of us. Of course we’re going to excuse and ignore their faults. But like I said, if Arthur was a real guy, most of us would root for him to swing.
I greatly agree. Truly, the only innocent one in camp would be Jack. I also find it ironic how the Pinkertons are the "bad guys" in the story because they are the antagonists, but really, they are the "good guys" trying to bring down a dangerous gang, but we see it not that way because we are attached to the gang and the characters therein, and we forget most of them are thieves and murderers despite our attachment, especially Arthur/John, etc. Though the Pinkerton's methods can be questionable, the Pinkertons are doing society a favor bringing down the Van Der Linde gang; however, it is fun and unique being a part of the morally-grey bad-guys in this game, for that makes the story more complex and enriching.
Lmao IKR? Strauss lent money, and wanted it back with some extra for the favour. Arthur though…hoooh boy he has made quite a number of widows. Taking away the breadwinner in the family, making families desperate because he wanted 15 dollars and a nickel. Arthur’s only redeeming quality is that he understands how wrong he has lived his life. Strauss was just doing basic bank business with some threats to get money back. Arthur is a way, way worse human than Strauss. Arthur complains “they don’t won’t folks like us anymore” WELL MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T ROB, MURDER AND SHOOT EVERYONE TRYNA PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY YOU WOULDN’T BE DESPISED, ARTHUR. That said though, Arthur is a fantastic main character.
@@cavman9883 for me, i think this was arthurs way of saving strauss because he knows the pinkertons will find them sooner or later and so kicking him out would mean he would get the chance to run without looking back, sadly, he still dies at the hands of the pinkertons
@@cavman9883I think these inconsistencies is what makes the story real. People are hypocrites and love to judge the others before themselves in real life
I enjoy this scene a lot, especially when comparing it to low honor Arthur's speech, both show disdain to this line of work but they express their hate for it differently
Arthur knew from the start but Arthur just isn’t care before but after his eyes were opened from what little time he had left that’s when he actually decided to do something about it
idk why people dislike Strauss that much, mind you he was shady and the loan contract were ambiguous, but the clients were not forced to sign, they did it to themselves.
Arthur travelled into the future and got the cure for TB
Arthur got that modern drip 😭🙏
S5 rick outfit
Arthur stopped by a Binco in Los Santos
Honestly he rocks it.
Stop crying and praying kid
@@justice_of_RUclips I’m so sorry 😂👍
Arthur in a t-shirt looks like any main character in a 200s-2010s zombie movie
Arickthur Morgrimes
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Aric griller (Arthur +rick+joel)
While I dislike Strauss as much as the next guy, it always struck me as odd that people think he’s an outlier in the gang. Every member of the gang killed and destroyed lives. Robbing a bank back then meant stealing the people’s cash, most of which was not insured. Not including the random people killed in the shootouts the gang has with towns. Strauss was a loan shark in a gang full of murderers. Think about Hamish’s cousin by marriage, we don’t know that guy at all. But we’re completely fine outright stealing his life’s savings. The truth is that all these people are guilty. It’s probably that Strauss is an ugly uncharasmatic character. I mean a high honor Arthur may have a sense of honor in defending his chosen family but he still ruins countless lives. I love Arthur and cry every time he dies, but let’s be honest with ourselves. If the Van Der Lind gang were real, we’d all want to see them swing.
It's funny how far people go to say Charles or any other person in the gang was good, they were all killers. None of them have high honor or are good people. People tend to only dislike the people the game makes you dislike.
@@Speltric well I would say there’s a definite hierarchy. I know Arthur and John both canonically kill plenty of innocent people, I’m not sure Charles or Kieren or even Hosea have. Charles definitely does seem to have a code of honor. He goes against Dutch and other members of the gang when they push him to do evil shit later in the game. Hosea seems to be a major moral compass for Dutch. But yeah characters like John and Arthur, while more noble and honorable than other members, definitely get the protagonist pass. They’re our stand in, and by extension, a version of us. Of course we’re going to excuse and ignore their faults. But like I said, if Arthur was a real guy, most of us would root for him to swing.
@@LawnXMowerXGaming Yeah, the game makes them likable which is why everyone tends to defend them and say they were honorable
like you said, "They're all killers" no honors among thieves
I greatly agree. Truly, the only innocent one in camp would be Jack. I also find it ironic how the Pinkertons are the "bad guys" in the story because they are the antagonists, but really, they are the "good guys" trying to bring down a dangerous gang, but we see it not that way because we are attached to the gang and the characters therein, and we forget most of them are thieves and murderers despite our attachment, especially Arthur/John, etc. Though the Pinkerton's methods can be questionable, the Pinkertons are doing society a favor bringing down the Van Der Linde gang; however, it is fun and unique being a part of the morally-grey bad-guys in this game, for that makes the story more complex and enriching.
bro aint no rick grimes 😭
He's Shane Walsh...
Nah bro got that let me tell you something drip
@@gidguto252 *rubs head* lemme tell you sumthn man
We are in the woooOOooOoOo0000Oodssss
Yes he is
Arthur out here looking like Tommy Miller
My 2 favorite games.
Arthur looks like he’s going to tell me something
😂
and that he might rub his head a couple times
Wdym? Is this gen z humor?
@@justice_of_RUclips If you ain't like it, there's the door. Send me a POSTCARD!
@@youssafsu2307 wasn't talking to you gen z
Arthur looks like an early 2000s rock band member, and I have never been more attracted to him in my life
You a girl?, or you a boy?🤨🏳️🌈?
@@MateoMendizabal Her name is MOTHER COW, question answered?
@@WonkyTonkBotty I was just gonna leave him guessing, but I'm glad you have eyes to see the obvious 😆
@mothercow71 hahaha funny!
@@WonkyTonkBottyyep, I realized after writing it.
"Strauss was destroying people's lives"
Like Arthur didn't do even worse 😂
Lmao IKR? Strauss lent money, and wanted it back with some extra for the favour. Arthur though…hoooh boy he has made quite a number of widows. Taking away the breadwinner in the family, making families desperate because he wanted 15 dollars and a nickel.
Arthur’s only redeeming quality is that he understands how wrong he has lived his life. Strauss was just doing basic bank business with some threats to get money back.
Arthur is a way, way worse human than Strauss. Arthur complains “they don’t won’t folks like us anymore” WELL MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T ROB, MURDER AND SHOOT EVERYONE TRYNA PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY YOU WOULDN’T BE DESPISED, ARTHUR.
That said though, Arthur is a fantastic main character.
@@cavman9883 for me, i think this was arthurs way of saving strauss because he knows the pinkertons will find them sooner or later and so kicking him out would mean he would get the chance to run without looking back, sadly, he still dies at the hands of the pinkertons
@@cavman9883I think these inconsistencies is what makes the story real. People are hypocrites and love to judge the others before themselves in real life
Arthur got the Joel Miller's drip.
Ricks*
@@DeadX2*Shane's
Arthur has such a rough look to him that simply a modern t shirt looks so uncanny to see him wear.
Bro got the Joel fit.
I mean, Arthur already knew Strauss was destroying people's lives soon as he started money lending it's just he didn't really care until now
Arthur in 2024:
American dads when their son turns 18
Seeing Arthur Morgan in a t-shirt made me realise how much i look like him, wth
I thought it was jerma in the thumbnail
Arthur got the guns 💪 out and Karen over there all wet
Arthur doing his Rick Grimes cosplay
Therapist: Arthur Morgan Wearing 2024 Clothing Doesn't Exist, He Can't Hurt You
*Arthur Morgan Wearing 2024 Clothing:*
I love the part where Strauss says “I” then Arthur says “leaving”
Weird seeing Arthur in a regular T shirt
Arthur with THE brown shirt 💀
Ngl it’s not that bad
@@SlayerXGamez that's what im saying it looks perfect on him
High honor Arthur: poetic and altruistic
Low honor Arthur: COLD ASF💀
Can't believe that all it takes is putting Arthur in a t-shirt and it's got us all swooning 🥵
Didn’t know Arthur had Dutch’s shirt
Fr tho
Dutch had a dirty orange union suit
First time I saw him I thought he was shirtless 💀
@@TanoaTamatoaLiterally bro
arthur miller fr
Sick Arthur in modern clothes looks so fit 💥
I enjoy this scene a lot, especially when comparing it to low honor Arthur's speech, both show disdain to this line of work but they express their hate for it differently
Arthur Miller
arthur got that joel drip
Arthur knew from the start but Arthur just isn’t care before but after his eyes were opened from what little time he had left that’s when he actually decided to do something about it
Arthur’s got that Joel drip
Me: turns 18, my mom: happy birthday lovely angel i love you so much, my dad: 0:43
Why Arthur got the Shane Walsh fit on bruh
Even though they don't look similar I think Joe Bernthal would be a pretty good Arthur. Got the same type of energy and presence.
I was thinking rick tbh
@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97nah just have roger
If only we could do this before Arthur got TB
i saw the thumbnail and instantly thought "is that rick?" then came to the comments and im glad i wasn't the only one xD
Arthur looks like Dutch from rdr1
First time i see Arthur wearing a T-shirt
Arthur lookin like weezer
Bro is not shane
Everyone working for a subprime lender should be told to get lost and get a job.
Yeah Arthur's a badass, but he ain't no Rick Grimes
This is the worst comment section ive seen in a long while
idk why people dislike Strauss that much, mind you he was shady and the loan contract were ambiguous, but the clients were not forced to sign, they did it to themselves.
bro really Thinks Joel miller💀
Go and get a job! Called Strauss a bum lool
Bro how did you get this shirt? Is it a mod? Arthur looks amazing with it.
Its modded and can be found with nexus mods
@@DoujaFeva name
@@mlodykucharski Mod is called "Everyday T-Shirts"
@@DoujaFeva i can't find can you give me link
That's really one of the few points which don't fit into the game.
For a minute, a well-written western became a soap opera.
Tf you mean a soap opera? How is it a soap opera? The whole game is a soap opera
@@justice_of_RUclips hello, please write in english. Thanks you in advance!
Bro, he thinks is Shane walsh 💀
What mods are you using
Really wish Arthur could have spread his TB to Strauss since it’s his fault that Arthur got TB
It’s Arthur’s own fault for beating the guy up and Arthur knows that
ngl you should do a joel morgan playthrough lol
Like Arthur doesn't do the same😂
I'm surprised the game didn't get a journalist backlash from it considering Strauss represents a very specific stereotype.
Lol
@Tivantri look up where his full name actually comes from.
Levi's right @@ApocRNG
@TivantriNazi Scientists/Party Members, you know, badguys
@@ApocRNG The "money-grubbing Jew" stereotype?
Rick grimes?😂
why is arthur wearing a modern day t-shirt
Who tf put Arthur is a god damn t shirt 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
"Miicah"
Bro you never make arthur make anything normal 😭
Somehow this worse in 4K
Por que ese atuendo lo hace ver mas guapo xd
I want this mod
He looks hot af with modern clothes
Mf thinks he,s dutch