great stuff, miss Iain Mac on tv in between periods... you said it "why can't we have nice things in Vancouver?" shame these millionaires just can't get along in such an amazing place Vancouver
Apparently youtube deleted the comments. But, yes. Pettersson needs his own puck moving defenceman. Like, who expects hughes to do everything for two lines. That's is a lot of hockey for the guy. Pettersson was out on the ice for the goal against edmonton. Between miller , and hughes on the powerplay. 5 on 5. Majority of time hughes is with miller. Hughes is the best dmen on the nhl. You can't expect the guy produce for 2 forward line on the ice. He needs to sit , and get some rest . We desperately need that 2nd d pairing who can also produce .
@@TheBlazersfan22 120+ players in the NHL all out producing Pettersson this year and not all playing with a puck moving defenseman, this excuse for Pettersson not getting points is weak.
@@matthewsmith5374 I'll agree with that, they have needed another top 4 D before the season started, hence not signing Zadorov was a mistake from this management group.
Boeser is a grade A human being and a class act - But he doesn't bring enough value to the table to warrant what his next contract is going to be. When he's hot he's a sniper, but then he disappears for long stretches at a time, doesn't kill penalties and doesn't stand out defensively. I just think he's going to be overpaid and they shouldn't do it, 40 goals last year yes - but he'll barely sniff 25-30 this year at this pace. I just hate how he's unnoticeable so often, and the concussion was obviously a setback.
@@VazzVegas Took Linden ages to become slightly better than a mediocre captain. I like Hughes of course but I wouldn't have named him captain. Vancouver has a looong history of milquetoast captains. Linden, Naslund, Sedin, Hughes. And of course the Luongo fiasco.
@ good lord, no we do not. We have Sherwood for grit and he's a million times grittier than big nose ever was. Big nose just ran his mouth and played dirty.
And can we stop blaming the fans for everything. It's Canada it's hockey people are going to be passionate. For Pete's sake, Miller had fans chanting his name at a wrestling match! Just play with some heart and soul this city loves you but when you treat us with such disrespect and half ass efforts it hurts us. We support you Miller but if you don't tell us what's wrong well then don't expect us to just sit back and not assume things. This is Vancouver, Canada, you're life may not be our business, but HOCKEY IS OUR BUSINESS.
Through all this drama and missing games, JT is still 2nd on the team in points. Meanwhile search parties should be sent out to find EP, Boeser and DeBrusk. Heinen and Sasson lead the forwards in +/-. This team had a real nice run last year but it's clear now that was a one-off. This team needs a shake up. Trade as many as possible and be sure to have enough cap space to keep Quinn when the times comes.
There's something i don't understand (and will freely admit i'm not that well gen'd up in hockey business), but if Miller has a full NMC, then when the supposed trade talks happened on the weekend, and Rick said they haven't asked him to waive his NM then why would they go down the road of building a trade only if Miller would say no at the end ? Wouldn't you ask him to waive as a first step on the proviso that if a deal with an agreed upon team was met ? Then the rest is a formality ? Why wait until the end of the negotiation to ask him to waive .... he could say no before you've finished asking. And, since they whole "6 weeks" comment was apparently brought to light, wasn't it about then that Miller came back from his absence and when that happened Rutherford (Allvin's boss) said they support him and are NOT trading him ? On top of that Allvin called Petterson out about needing to be more mature etc. Seems very contradictory to me. In the interim Miller has more points than Petterson who continues to be invisible more often than not so trade Miller who has a NMC where Petey doesn't ? Hmmm.
I think it will be hard to ever get what JT is worth. Other teams smell blood but Allvin constantly refers to Miller as their #1 Centre and won’t move him. Allvin knows you don’t find guys like miller every day, sure he’ll listen to offers like he stated because he has to, but I doubt anyone will ever actually convince Allvin unless the offer is ridiculously good. Which I just don’t see happening. Not to mention JT has a full Nmc and holds all the marbles.
contracts should be structured based on performance. Have a base salary and you can make 10-11 M if you're a 100 point player. If not, you won't but to pay regardless is stupid..
The management is starting to show signs of late stage Benning. If they keep that softball swede over Miller it might just go down as the worst decision in franchise history and it wont even be close.
Petterson has to go, JT has passion, feisty, great in the faceoff circle, wants to win, gets in pettersons face to motivate him, still petey is not motivated, give me passion over passive anyday! Move petey and his 11.6 mil
Listen, I don't want to see JT go either - but what some of you don't seem to realize is maybe this isn't 100% the teams decision - maybe, just maybe some of this has been Miller and his camp. We all want to sit here and lazily blame the media but what if it comes down to JT just wants a change? We don't know, and reports are he hasn't "formally" asked for a trade but let's be honest - it takes two to tango and if the team is seriously considering moving him, it's not because they are bored - it's because there are reasons to that are obviously internal. To say JT is obviously unhappy in an understatement, and to think he's only disgruntled because the media asks him questions like they do every other player is a lazy narrative.
@@bigamigo4863 i think the guy just wants to win, and probably drives him crazy the guy we paid superstar money to choked in playoffs, and hasnt been a factor in a game in over a year!
Absolutely no way Canucks would shop Miller unless he asked to be traded. Guy has full NMC and no GM would waste their energy shopping NMC players unless they requested it.
Boeser has 3 points less than Miller and makes considerably less money. He also didn't need to leave the team for "personal reasons" and by all accounts get along with Petey. It is clear who must move.
@@crushingalldeceivers Miller's shenanigans aren't comparable to the perpetually underperforming Boeser. Shoulda traded him for value and kept Tanev and/or Tofolli who both wanted to stay and were rumored to be willing to give a home team discount. So Tanev, Tofolli and the return for Boeser or...Boeser? Nice try.
@@shawncordeiro Points? Get over your stat fixation and look at the players. And for stats,if you insist, Boeser is a lifetime minus player, doesn't backcheck and gets loads of his points on the powerplay and on empty nets. Not to mention we blew a year off of his ELC for no reason whatsoever. And you do know what perpetual means don't you?
If Canucks are having a problem dealing Miller, it's because they are having a very hard time getting equal value in return. They are giving up one of best face-off men in the league, in addition to being a top-scoring team leader who has consistently been in the Top 10-20 for goals/assists for the last few years. This year he has had a slump, but he can turn that around. When you have a player who is so competitive, so skilled, and such a tough and dynamic team leader who can play with 100% passion and desire ---- who do you replace him with? Put Miller on the Oilers with McDavid and Dreisatl and their chances to win Stanley definitley increase. The same with any top team who would be glad to have him.
IF they trade Miller, Boeser has to go too. Boeser relies on Miller for his production, and is otherwise mostly invisible. Not to mention both players are slow, so if they’re both moved then the team has a chance of increasing their speed
Ian 2-3 years ago : “there is no rift in the room!!! “ Hey Ian can you take a second to take Aqua’s 🐓out of your mouth for a second and just admit this team is a joke
Yep, I would 100% agree if Petterson isn't the difference maker the moment Miller leaves, he will be gone by the off-season. I have never seen an organization done so much to motivate a supposed star player. With acquiring players to play with Petterson and coaching staff to help this guy. We might be trading away one problem and retaining another. No point having him stay if management has to do so much for him in order to succeed. Imo he's doing the same as Miller and is toxic all around.
Management letting Miller and PE take all this heat, was a management mistake on the Team Defence being good enough their terrible forwards need the defence to make a nice crisp first pass so they can move up the ice as a unit and keep the pressure on once there n the offensive zone, not flipping pucks out off and around the boards losing puck possession ove game after game. the forwards end up playing as individuals Dont let them blame Petey and Miller n Brock they all don't have a bad season at the same time for no reason...
Iain needs to straight up ask Alvin if Miller camp asked to be traded. It would temper so many expectations from Canuck fans knowing the answer. It will also kill the drama.
Yes we get it Imac, you love Miller lol Question: that 11 month span where Pettersson hasn't performed? Was he injured during any time during that period? Bit of selective memory on Imac's part. Disappointing
@canada1966 he was last Feb, he wasn't entirely healthy in that 11 months iMac spoke of. And he doesn't stink atm but he could do better, that's not news
Allvin is not a good gm, everybody he signs he trades for a loss a year later. Not signing zadorov tanked team chemistry, he golfed with jt, lent his big balls to pettersson. Were gonna trade miller and get nothing tangible in return just watch.
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great stuff, miss Iain Mac on tv in between periods... you said it "why can't we have nice things in Vancouver?" shame these millionaires just can't get along in such an amazing place Vancouver
Pettersson 3 points in his last 12 games, paid top 5 in the NHL at $11.6M, that’s not good enough, trade him now before his NMC kicks in July 1st.
Apparently youtube deleted the comments. But, yes. Pettersson needs his own puck moving defenceman. Like, who expects hughes to do everything for two lines. That's is a lot of hockey for the guy. Pettersson was out on the ice for the goal against edmonton. Between miller , and hughes on the powerplay. 5 on 5. Majority of time hughes is with miller. Hughes is the best dmen on the nhl. You can't expect the guy produce for 2 forward line on the ice. He needs to sit , and get some rest . We desperately need that 2nd d pairing who can also produce .
@@TheBlazersfan22 120+ players in the NHL all out producing Pettersson this year and not all playing with a puck moving defenseman, this excuse for Pettersson not getting points is weak.
@@J-D-O-Double-G Petterson aside the Canucks need at least one other good Dman for the 2nd pairing if not two more.
@@matthewsmith5374 I'll agree with that, they have needed another top 4 D before the season started, hence not signing Zadorov was a mistake from this management group.
@ Canucks gave Z a good offer and he turned it down.
Boeser is a grade A human being and a class act - But he doesn't bring enough value to the table to warrant what his next contract is going to be. When he's hot he's a sniper, but then he disappears for long stretches at a time, doesn't kill penalties and doesn't stand out defensively. I just think he's going to be overpaid and they shouldn't do it, 40 goals last year yes - but he'll barely sniff 25-30 this year at this pace. I just hate how he's unnoticeable so often, and the concussion was obviously a setback.
EP fan here (also Elvis :-)) and I think he needs a fresh start.. we need more Millers on this team, which we never had in Vancouver's history
Trevor Linden slowly raises his hand to object with the 'history' comment.
Bertuzzi was close
@@VazzVegas not the same... we need more like Marchand types..
@@VazzVegas Took Linden ages to become slightly better than a mediocre captain. I like Hughes of course but I wouldn't have named him captain. Vancouver has a looong history of milquetoast captains. Linden, Naslund, Sedin, Hughes. And of course the Luongo fiasco.
@ good lord, no we do not. We have Sherwood for grit and he's a million times grittier than big nose ever was. Big nose just ran his mouth and played dirty.
And can we stop blaming the fans for everything. It's Canada it's hockey people are going to be passionate. For Pete's sake, Miller had fans chanting his name at a wrestling match! Just play with some heart and soul this city loves you but when you treat us with such disrespect and half ass efforts it hurts us. We support you Miller but if you don't tell us what's wrong well then don't expect us to just sit back and not assume things. This is Vancouver, Canada, you're life may not be our business, but HOCKEY IS OUR BUSINESS.
The GM has an 11.6 mil mess to clean up.
Through all this drama and missing games, JT is still 2nd on the team in points. Meanwhile search parties should be sent out to find EP, Boeser and DeBrusk. Heinen and Sasson lead the forwards in +/-. This team had a real nice run last year but it's clear now that was a one-off. This team needs a shake up. Trade as many as possible and be sure to have enough cap space to keep Quinn when the times comes.
Tyler Myers hitting Bouchard in the face is just really funny. Like Bouchard is skating up and Myers is like what you gonna do? Bap 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sorry, Theoren Fleury is the toughest player under 5.08 to ever lace em up.
There's something i don't understand (and will freely admit i'm not that well gen'd up in hockey business), but if Miller has a full NMC, then when the supposed trade talks happened on the weekend, and Rick said they haven't asked him to waive his NM then why would they go down the road of building a trade only if Miller would say no at the end ? Wouldn't you ask him to waive as a first step on the proviso that if a deal with an agreed upon team was met ? Then the rest is a formality ?
Why wait until the end of the negotiation to ask him to waive .... he could say no before you've finished asking.
And, since they whole "6 weeks" comment was apparently brought to light, wasn't it about then that Miller came back from his absence and when that happened Rutherford (Allvin's boss) said they support him and are NOT trading him ? On top of that Allvin called Petterson out about needing to be more mature etc.
Seems very contradictory to me.
In the interim Miller has more points than Petterson who continues to be invisible more often than not so trade Miller who has a NMC where Petey doesn't ? Hmmm.
I think it will be hard to ever get what JT is worth. Other teams smell blood but Allvin constantly refers to Miller as their #1 Centre and won’t move him.
Allvin knows you don’t find guys like miller every day, sure he’ll listen to offers like he stated because he has to, but I doubt anyone will ever actually convince Allvin unless the offer is ridiculously good. Which I just don’t see happening. Not to mention JT has a full Nmc and holds all the marbles.
contracts should be structured based on performance. Have a base salary and you can make 10-11 M if you're a 100 point player. If not, you won't but to pay regardless is stupid..
The management is starting to show signs of late stage Benning. If they keep that softball swede over Miller it might just go down as the worst decision in franchise history and it wont even be close.
Petterson has to go, JT has passion, feisty, great in the faceoff circle, wants to win, gets in pettersons face to motivate him, still petey is not motivated, give me passion over passive anyday! Move petey and his 11.6 mil
Petterson doesn't care now got his money
send it to buffalo and tell it the climaite is like sweeden
Listen, I don't want to see JT go either - but what some of you don't seem to realize is maybe this isn't 100% the teams decision - maybe, just maybe some of this has been Miller and his camp. We all want to sit here and lazily blame the media but what if it comes down to JT just wants a change? We don't know, and reports are he hasn't "formally" asked for a trade but let's be honest - it takes two to tango and if the team is seriously considering moving him, it's not because they are bored - it's because there are reasons to that are obviously internal. To say JT is obviously unhappy in an understatement, and to think he's only disgruntled because the media asks him questions like they do every other player is a lazy narrative.
@@bigamigo4863 i think the guy just wants to win, and probably drives him crazy the guy we paid superstar money to choked in playoffs, and hasnt been a factor in a game in over a year!
@@michaella5799 Miller and Petey are separated by 2 points. Millers contract is no slouch either.
Absolutely no way Canucks would shop Miller unless he asked to be traded. Guy has full NMC and no GM would waste their energy shopping NMC players unless they requested it.
3 games for Myers fine for Princess David.
Shoulda dumped Boeser ages ago.
Boeser has 3 points less than Miller and makes considerably less money. He also didn't need to leave the team for "personal reasons" and by all accounts get along with Petey. It is clear who must move.
@@crushingalldeceivers Miller's shenanigans aren't comparable to the perpetually underperforming Boeser. Shoulda traded him for value and kept Tanev and/or Tofolli who both wanted to stay and were rumored to be willing to give a home team discount.
So Tanev, Tofolli and the return for Boeser or...Boeser? Nice try.
@@crushingalldeceivers ok 3 points less but it took 20% more games
@@shawncordeiro Points? Get over your stat fixation and look at the players. And for stats,if you insist, Boeser is a lifetime minus player, doesn't backcheck and gets loads of his points on the powerplay and on empty nets. Not to mention we blew a year off of his ELC for no reason whatsoever. And you do know what perpetual means don't you?
one win but it's gotta be followed up ...
If Canucks are having a problem dealing Miller, it's because they are having a very hard time getting equal value in return. They are giving up one of best face-off men in the league, in addition to being a top-scoring team leader who has consistently been in the Top 10-20 for goals/assists for the last few years. This year he has had a slump, but he can turn that around. When you have a player who is so competitive, so skilled, and such a tough and dynamic team leader who can play with 100% passion and desire ---- who do you replace him with? Put Miller on the Oilers with McDavid and Dreisatl and their chances to win Stanley definitley increase. The same with any top team who would be glad to have him.
Nucks heading for a rebuild. Hughes signing with his brother in New Jersey
BROTHERS
With a salary cap?
IF they trade Miller, Boeser has to go too.
Boeser relies on Miller for his production, and is otherwise mostly invisible.
Not to mention both players are slow, so if they’re both moved then the team has a chance of increasing their speed
Ian 2-3 years ago : “there is no rift in the room!!! “
Hey Ian can you take a second to take Aqua’s 🐓out of your mouth for a second and just admit this team is a joke
Yep, I would 100% agree if Petterson isn't the difference maker the moment Miller leaves, he will be gone by the off-season. I have never seen an organization done so much to motivate a supposed star player. With acquiring players to play with Petterson and coaching staff to help this guy. We might be trading away one problem and retaining another. No point having him stay if management has to do so much for him in order to succeed. Imo he's doing the same as Miller and is toxic all around.
Management letting Miller and PE take all this heat, was a management mistake on the Team Defence being good enough their terrible forwards need the defence to make a nice crisp first pass so they can move up the ice as a unit and keep the pressure on once there n the offensive zone, not flipping pucks out off and around the boards losing puck possession ove game after game. the forwards end up playing as individuals Dont let them blame Petey and Miller n Brock they all don't have a bad season at the same time for no reason...
Hughes needs to grow a pair and explain to both we need to focus on winning a Stanley cup.
It's not in his DNA
How do know he hasn’t. Some fans are so ignorant and have no idea what goes on behind the scenes.
Clowns lol
Iain needs to straight up ask Alvin if Miller camp asked to be traded. It would temper so many expectations from Canuck fans knowing the answer. It will also kill the drama.
Yes we get it Imac, you love Miller lol
Question: that 11 month span where Pettersson hasn't performed? Was he injured during any time during that period?
Bit of selective memory on Imac's part. Disappointing
Is he injured right now. Dude stinks
@canada1966 he was last Feb, he wasn't entirely healthy in that 11 months iMac spoke of.
And he doesn't stink atm but he could do better, that's not news
@@Kammi444we’re paying Petey to score. How many goals does he have…
@@bryndoerksen8376 the season isn't over yet, is it? he's not getting traded btw.
@@Kammi444 he will be gone by next year if he doesn’t produce
Allvin is not a good gm, everybody he signs he trades for a loss a year later. Not signing zadorov tanked team chemistry, he golfed with jt, lent his big balls to pettersson. Were gonna trade miller and get nothing tangible in return just watch.
Zadorov seemed legit but he stinks in Boston so maybe Alvin was correct after all.
Trade ep40 instead, loui erikksson and OEL trained him well, get the bag and retire on the ice.
Yeah trade the 24 year old for the moody 31 year old, sounds good
Yeah trade the overrated 26 year old, he's not good enough.
Only one guy is waiving his full no movement clause and it’s not EP40.
@@nancybhawan3675 pettersson is 26 and who cares ? He’s on pace for 60 points and had 80 last year , he’s regressed massively
@@glgl7676 Pettersson doesn't have a NMC until July 1st, understand the contracts before talking.