These 10 Cards Can't Be Destroyed, But They Still Stink! | Magic: the Gathering
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Indestructible is one of Magic's strongest abilities. After all, cards that have it can't be destroyed with damage or "destroy" effects. However, not all card with indestructible are worth playing. In fact, some of the worst cards in the game are indestructible!
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Funny how even the 10th worst indestructible card is still one of the most infamous Ensoul Artifact targets.
It's like, "best of the worst".
@@quint3ssent1a nah, the temporary indestructible cards on this list are actually just bad.
It's really not one people should use so often, especially when there are better option's that do something even when you can't animate them
No, I'm talking about 10th worst being "best of the worst", so it's like... not bad.
If by infamous you mean basically just worse than Darksteel Citidel, sure.
MAN I am old. My response to the #1 was “Really? i remember playing that” and had to send my mind back 30 years to when making a Mishra’s Factory Indestructible was cool because nothing else in the game did that.
Maze of Ith was the land I used that for
So near as I can tell, Darksteel Relic's popularity in EDH can be attributed to three things:
1. A 0-mana spell for storm decks like Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain.
2. A bootleg Mox for decks like Urza.
3. A combo piece with stuff like Krark-Clan Ironworks, Emery, Lurker of the Loch, or Chain of Acid.
And in my meria Deck its a Mox to ^^
You mean all the things that make it good? No kidding.
@@ImrahilToChaos gottem
@@ImrahilToChaosgottem lol
I was working on an Indestructible commander deck. Thanks for the great recommendations Nizzahon! Now all I need are some great wraths like Rain of Daggers! I hope you can recommend some other great wrath effects in the future.
Magus of the disk might help you
Consecrate Land turns Mishra's Factory into an indestructible chump blocker, and I've survived some games in the Old School format because of it.
Others have mentioned Consecrate Land on creature lands, which is okay for using them as a blocker or preventing instant speed creature destruction on them. I also think it could work with a land that provides a ton of mana on its own + Armageddon type effects to create a very one sided board. Like, if you put Consecrate Land on Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx or Tolarian Academy them Armageddon, the source of those lands' mana will still be around. So your opponents will be heavily restricted and you'll be able to still add to the board.
Though yeah, I realize none of that makes Consecrate Land great by any means. But hey, it's in the right color for Armageddon shenanigans at least!
I was expecting Darksteel Myr to appear, but a 0/1 with this keyword for 3 and no additional hoops to jump seems alright in comparison.
3 mana is cheap enough to chump block most threats
Darksteel Myr was actually so good that WotC doesn’t print indestructible creatures that cheap anymore, unless it can’t block.
8:54 the opponent tries to play the worst card ever, "in response i activate my strip mine on your target"
Ah! You've fallen for my trap! You've wasted your Strip Mine, and I can now play my Sorrow's Path with impunity! The day is mine!
@@hiroshimatwinkie5571 wow, i am out of your league, I just wasted a strip mine on a basic land, I scoop.
Finding an Alpha card in an indestructible list was certainly not on my Bingo card today. Well done.
I'm a little surprised to not see Konda, Lord of Eiganjo on this list. One of the most underwhelming legends ever in a set filled with underwhelming legends.
I'd never seen the Accursed Horde (4:42) art before. I'm willing to bet about half the decks that run this card do so just because the art is metal as hell, since that EDHRec number is waaaay higher than it has any right to be given the card text.
I also wouldn't be surprised if it's also played in decks with a Zombie Commander with a potent Attack Trigger like Grimgrin and Thraximundar, since it acts as an extra way to protect your pesky attacker in combat that also adds to your board, even if it's not exactly great otherwise.
I see the pun you did there.
I only just saw it a couple weeks ago because of Accursed Marauder from MH3 being a reference to the Horde
@@macmusial3644 is it? Accursed marauder is in the niche of "edict andys" like fleshbag MARAUDER. The effect is in no way similar to accursed hordes indestructible ability
I can see situations where Consecrate Land would be useful. Some lands are incredibly valuable, some of which can become creatures. I've seen many decks run ways of getting rid of overpowered lands so if you run white this could be really useful to protect a Gaia's Cradle and the like.
The problem with the card is, land destruction isn't really good outside commander, and many many commander groups strait up refuse to play with land destruction, making the card way to niche.
@@stigmaoftherose While prevention against land destruction is one side of the card, putting it on a man-land that you *want* to attack with would be worth it - especially against decks that have a hard time getting rid of enchantments. Playing a Selesnya enchantment deck with Lair of the Hydra, Cave of the Frost Dragon or Restless Prairie would be a good place for this card. It was bad when initially printed when there weren't many man-lands to enchant, but they are everywhere now. If this card was available on Arena, I would craft it.
@stigmaoftherose, land destruction is a real thing in Legacy and Vintage.
however (unless you are facing a land mass destruction deck) some color have better way to hates on powerfull nonbasic lands other than a single target destruction (most notables, red Blood Moon and blue Back to Basic, but i'm quite sure also black had something that allow land exile) and against red, white and green a single destroy enchantment removes CL, delaying only the removal of the land.
Yeah but I would play cards like Tomik to protect my lands
Darksteel brute actually seems half decent in limited formats. It's 3 mana for a blocker that blanks anything and avoids creature based exiling. It's by no means a great card but I wouldn't completely count it out in limited.
It was awesome in the limited format of 'kitchen table, only occasional boosters'.
Sample size: summer camp
6:07 "-can be shuffled into your opponent's deck-"
Ante is back in a new form, baby.
ahah, indeed I guess we understood what Nizzahon meant
I definitely played my lone copy of Darksteel Gargoyle as a child. That art was too great to pass up!
I love this card and have it in a couple decks because I can cheat it in easy, ramp it out quick, or need keywords. Every game I've seen it in I get work done and people are in awe lol
I'd like to have commented on this earlier, but I've had an internet outage. However, not even that will stop me from getting "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
Zero mana do nothing is super powerful when it can't be destroyed! That is why i run it in all my decks like dredge, red aggro, and even merfolk. Though i dont have room for it in my infinity deck but i play it most other decks.
I playing in my Meliria mass land destruction deck.
Concecrate land could be good on creature lands tbh. Not saying its worth a slot, but i wouldnt wanna face a fairy conclave with that on it.
Darksteel Relic is one of my absolute favorite cards for being flavorful and unusual enough to inspire me to think about ways it could be used, and I was pleasantly surprised that it escaped the worst 0 mana list. It definitely deserves its spot here, but I'm still glad to see it mentioned.
I'd like to see a cube, but one that ONLY contains cards from the Nizzahon's Worst cards lists. Would be interesting to see what ends up becoming the best of the worst.
This video is especially funny to me, as both Accursed Horse and Necromancer's Familiar were pivotal to me going 3-0 and their respective pre-releases. I know that does not defend them as cards but it highlights how funny Sealed can be as a format.
If you want a creature that has an indestructible effect that makes sense, try Phylactery Lich. 3 Black for a 5/5 Zombie that gives an artifact a counter and cannot be killed until the artifact is removed.
I had the Darksteel precon deck as a kid and LOVED Darksteel Brute. It’s still one of my favorite artworks in Magic.
I thought you might be wrong about Rakish Scoundrel but after using two in recent Disguise draft deck, I agree you are spot on
the art on grappling sundew is gorgeous.
The defender with reach, the zombie one and the number 10 slot all have homes in commander, but very specific. Doran or Arcades might like the Defender (same with any toughness matters deck). Zombies may like the zombie, but who needs indestructible if you can reanimate regularly so this is more of a budget option. And the Dark steel relic is really probably only useful in Jhoira decks that want to draw through their entire deck in one turn
I play Consecrating land in my armagedon edh deck 😅
You know the format "Pauper"? I haven't played in years but back in like 2015 or whenever I tried to convince people to play a format called "Pooper" that was restricted to cards at 2 stars or less on gatherer. I think in Commander Pooper your commander had to be an uncommon creature lol
Hehe, I’ve seen Darksteel Gargoyle in play a few times.
Necromancer’s familiar is an enabler in a madness deck so not as crappy as it looks.
I don't even understand the flavor of Rakish Scoundrel. It sounds like it should be called Hidden Bodyguard or something.
I agree with the choices for competitive magic, but Consecrate Land IS a very useful card in my one deck (that ended up being stronger than it should be). I actually built a deck AROUND Sorrow's Path and it works surprisingly well. In fact, it works good enough, that my opponents have learned to destroy the Path as soon as it comes into play. Consecrate Land is thus able to protect the singular land the deck is built around.
The deck was good before, but I just added Tamanoa, which is a devastating addition. Now every time the Path taps when Tamanoa is in play, I gain 2 life for EVERY creature I control, and they are all designed to be able to take a 2 hit.
I dunno that zombie one has helped me win games.
Man, Concecrate Land is a blowout card in my edh Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper land destruction deck. Sad to see it at #1 but I guess Noyan Dar isn't a very popular commander and edh players aren't fond of losing lands. Great list, as always!
Why is the disguise cost so high for the scoundrel? 9 mana investment to give a card flash?
For 1 more mana, you play it face up as a 3/3.
Maybe that's why it is on the list.
I expect it's because the on flip trigger is expected to be used as a combat trick or to blank a removal spell... But it's a really high cost even for that.
Consecrate Land is exactly the sort of card I run in my Eriette of the Charmed Apple deck because it's just not worth removing.
Would be interesting to see some analysis of the worst ever cards to appear in tournament winning decks and whether their place in those decks could point to some undiscovered tech. I know it has been done before by other content creators but your take in particular would be interesting with your breadth of meta knowledge.
The only card on that list I could find useful is accused horde for a zombie deck.
Not too many worst of lists are going to include a 4/4 indestructible flyer. What I took from this video is that indestructible is good.
Rakish Scoundrel wishes it could be Azra Smokeshaper
Consecrate Land is great in Noyan Dar.
This is a cool video idea! Never would've thouht of it and I'm intrigued what makes the list
Grappling Sundew is Amaranthine Wall at home.
Good list, was hoping it was cards with baseline indestructible
For what it's worth, I don't think the pseudo-regeneration indestructible cards should have made it here. As worded, the ability was obviously a compromise for removing regeneration from their keyword list, making it feel so out of flavor compared to how it was implemented in Darksteel.
Dark steel Gargoyle. You said that because it is an artifact, it is easier to deal with. I challenge that.
Artifact removal is typically just that "destroy target artifact." There are very few artifact hate cards that "void" artifacts specifically... there was probably 1 or 2 in the dark steel set, but in all of magic, there aren't many cards to support your statement. 99.99% of cards that would send the Gargoyle to the graveyard and/or void won't care about its artifact status.
There are actually quite a lot of cards that can exile artifacts. Revoke Existence and World Breaker most notably, but if you search on scryfall you'll find like 50 cards
Necromancer’s familiar is so good in draft though!?!
you can also remvoe inde as well naubg any statc or mana tapped card with it destroyable
funny outro "... if you wanna prove me wrong"
I'm not sure the "temporary indestructible" cards (like #9) should be on this list; since this is more or less the new wording for "regenerate"
It's easy to see that, in some cases, if WotC would do this cards today, they would be like "scry 1/Surveil 1 when enter" or something like that. The 0 mana one is funny with the sorcery that destroy one artifact, and if it's your you create 3 goblins, because would stay there and let you play it on turn 1.
Idk if id call tap indestructible abilities the new regenerate its mostly a white thing
isn't there 17lands data on GRN it has been on arena as a throwback draft a couple of times after 17lands was released
Darksteel Brute is a bad card, but it still have a special place in my heart for being my first ever MTG card.
So I'm gonna say concicrate land is actually fine if your running a creature land deck like noyan dar roilshaper ao o feel like it should probably be lower on thia list for at least having that slight niche
I'm surprised Darksteel Garrison is not on the list, even at number 10. The Relic seems somewhat useful in Affinity or Storm decks.
@Nizzahon: could it be interesting to compare the avarage win rate of 17 lands-users across different sets? Like for example, should they do way better in a format like modern horizon 3 compared to ultra agro limited surroundings?
I played a lot of miiridon block limited. The brute was played then and performed well.
We remember Mirrodin Limited differently.
Even back then spending 2 on a card that did nothing unless you sunk 3 more mana into it was pretty rough. I mean, it's a lot worse than a 5-mana 2/2 with indestructible.
There isn't much point having indestructible on something your opponent doesn't have much reason to destroy in the first place.
Darksteel relic is made for philactery lich
Its funny that against LD another land would be better than consecrate land
I don't know the Sereph isn't so bad. You don't cast it, you cheat it out with triggers like Kaalia.
What is the rules interaction for the various removal spells that enchant a land to exile the creature with Consecrate Land? Bit of an edge case but would Consecrate land break that enchantment?
I am using the relic in my meria commander Deck. Its an cheep mana Rock in this case.
Ok, I'm going to see if I can make #4 good by putting it in an Agatha deck.
Could have sworn that the relic had a top 8 somewhere
Darksteel gargoyle and darksteel brute are sick
Atleast the artworks are
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relic has a lot of play point for storm decks, affinity decks, artifact decks and animation decks. I dont think it goes here, it has a lot of valid playpoints and the indestructibility sometimes matters
Darksteel Relic may be decent in a mutate deck
Might this be the top 10 worst cards list with the “best” cards so far? Like don’t get me wrong. All cards are bad cards, but they seem a little stronger than the top 10 worst cards that are usually featured. Feels like these cards would beat most other worst cards in a vacuum, or rather worst card meta. Maybe I am just tricked by the fact of indestructible being a strong keyword in and of itself, but most cards here seems mostly to be inefficient rather than just worthless or directly detrimental.
#10 is cool when you want tons of artifacts, otherwise it is a way to pretend your deck is 98 cards + commander instead of 99cards
There are some pretty recent cards on this list
I don't get how the average 17-land deck has a 55% win rate. Do the other lands have less than 50%?
When magic players learn that the graveyard is a secon hand. That day will be a good day
that was a surprise #1 haha nice!
Imo Rakish Soundrel doesn't deserve to make this list. Or if it does it should only in 10th place behind relic and familiar. The card is definitely unplayable in 60 card constructed and commander, but was only bad, not unplayable, in draft. It's definitely not a card you're ever happy to be playing but it's not totally unacceptable as a 23rd card in a deck that really wants another 3 drop or has some disguise synergies. A 51.7% GIH winrate and 51.9% GNS winrate indicates that it's a bad card seeing play in bad decks. but generally isn't much worse than the rest of the decks it's seeing play in.
Interesting to see a worst list with so many recent cards (I still count Amonkhet as recent)
Consecrate Land vs Worldslayer?
I won drafts with seraph of the sun... but its bad
I like Darksteel Relic. It's a silly card.
Consecrate land has a single use, and that is to protect the world tree land. Other than that, it's pretty worthless to run
Six of the cards on this list can be destroyed.
FALSE !!! in 1995 i won a 32 people tournament with consacrate land (on mishra's factory) armageddon and jokulhaups!!! (i swear)
Consecrate Land on your Faceless Haven after it's gotten a counter from The Book of Exalted Deeds... might not be half bad. If you're playing that kind of crap, that is. Mwahahaha
I am 2.5 minutes in, and trying to figure out why in this video you're saying a card like necromancer's familiar is bad as a 3/1 flyer with text that's all upside when when this card enables other mechanics like madness and dredge, yet in other videos you say otherwise bad cards are good because they enable other cards to be good lol. this is why you can't go solely off pro tours, because remember, necro potence was around for a while before players realized it's power. now there are some 1 set per month, it is way easier now for good cards to get lost in the mix. everyone just assumes rares and mythics are good, so uncommons and commons are set aside with out thought of previous sets and interactions.
I don't just go off Pro Tours, as this video clearly states.
What makes a card bad is that it’s bad in too many situations. That's the same in every one of these videos. Almost very card can be good in the right situation or with the right set up. Those situations exist for bad cards too, but they are very rare.
So yes, the 3/1 flyer can enable things, but it's a very poor enabler for all the reasons I mentioned.
I watch all your videos.
Please don't release videos in the wee hours and then have the outro be like 10x louder than the commentary. It's very jarring and I live with people.
Alternative name for the list: 10 worst cards with the word "darksteel" in it.
Need new video. This video features creature that Can become in destructible, somehow, and not creatures that are ‘indestructible’. If you had a tutor, or a trigger, that searched indestructible in your hand or deck, or ‘draw an I destructible creature’ none of these creatures could be searched. . .
This list is not very good.
You really had to stretch this since more than one of them didn't have inherent indestructible.
Don't get me wrong, those cards are still not very good, but still.
This is a mindless and effortless clickbaitish video lol hard pass.
first real comment. also sets/expansions when???!
1 toughness in no way means it dies to 'literally' everything. Let's stop abusing that word.
I've literally seen "literally" abused far more than that.
Anything that deals damage, is the obvious implication.
Thumbs down for not knowing how to pronounce "Accursed".
Nor "Aura".
How do you think they should be pronounced? "Accursed" also has a disyllabic pronunciation but the trisyllabic one here was present in every dictionary I checked. "Aura" here sounded like /ˈɔɹ.ə/ to me which is a pretty standard English pronunciation for it (obviously this isn't the same as e.g. the Latin pronunciation of it but that's normally the case for loanwords).
#2 seems to be much better than previous indes on the list