Here’s my reply to your joke of a Christian channel. And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous. Al-Ma'idah (5:46) So for their breaking of the covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard. They distort words from their [proper] usages and have forgotten a portion of that of which they were reminded. And you will still observe deceit among them, except a few of them. But pardon them and overlook [their misdeeds]. Indeed, Allah loves the doers of good. Al-Ma'idah (5:13) You altering your own New Testament and not believing in the Old Testament disproves your own religion. Jesus wasn’t even Greek. He was a Jew who spoke Hebrew and Aramaic. Maybe you should read your own Old Testament for a change instead of being so insecure about us like you Christians are nowadays.
@@zach7088 brother about what the man said in the video , i want to see if this is right or wrong and please correct me . we believe that the word of allah is right and it is always the truth. but he argues that the bible is the word of allah then it is a contridiction . i say that the bible is right but what we have now is not the bible as some people be inevnting new things and claiming that are the word of allah for their own benefit (you know the dark era of the church in europ and what laes before) but the bible has truth in it as it has the word of allah in it and some might be completely deleted not altered we don't really now .( please forgive my writtin as english is not my first or second language)
The Quran literally copies from other books, claims there corrupt, then they try and choose what stuff is true in a totally “corrupted book”. Literally special pleading
Seriously, it’s embarrassing. Even one of the Qurans authors has a criminal record of stealing books and plagiarism. “Studies in Early Hadith Literature” by M. M. Azami, pg 128 line 82. Aside from that, the “teachings” can be traced between Arab mythology, the Gospel of Thomas, even Greek medical manuscripts.
yo ive heard christians say that the quran is a book from the supernatural but its the devil's words since it says god is the father of deceiving and the bible calls the devil the father of deception and talked about protoplasm and the big bang 1400 years ago,
@@TheTemplar168 Don't forget the siraat bridge to heaven that they claim is absent in Biblical literature due to scriptural corruption, even though it appeared in the Zoroastrian faith independently.
Tell me how the …. The bible can be Gods words, when some ordinary people write it in a span of 1 Thousand years When Jesus is „God“ or his Son or whatsoever, how did he die? Isn’t he Allmighty? And Yeah the Quran is the Update of Jesuss Rules, how can it be not true, When there are PROVINGS of the changing of the Bible.
Anwar shaghel mokhak 1:07 Reather trust that God has sent down revelations and people have corrupted them. 1:14 that’s not a verse. It’s actually “.. as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel previously, as a guide for people..” (PREVIOUSLY) 1:20 they had already been corrupted was before Prophet Muhammad was even born, but it was what they had left of their revelations 1:27 👎 Gospel not Gospels and we have to believe in the original Gospel and Torah that were revealed to the Prophets Isa (“Jesus” even though there isn’t even a J in Aramaic) and Moses 1:51 GOD is telling us what he revealed to the people of the Gospel (before the Quran was revealed) They are required to adhere to their book and are not permitted to deviate from it. 2:03 How about reading the verse before it or understanding context? 2:05 “..you are standing on nothing..”: from religious matters “..until you uphold the Torah and the Gospel..”:By believing in books that were sent to the Prophets among them is the command to follow Muhammad,faith in his message,and imitation of his laws. “..and ‘uphold’ what has been revealed to you from your Lord..”:The Holy Quran💗 2:24 Only showing half of the verse to mislead ppl.Complete it “.. And your Lord’s revelation to you ˹O Prophet˺ will only cause many of them to increase in wickedness and disbelief. So do not grieve for the people who disbelieve” it’s obviously talking about the Quran 2:36 they have with the testimony of both Christian scholars and Jewish 3:10 go look up “ahmed deedat bible muhammad mentioned by rational believer” 3:27 they weren’t but there is somewhat of what GOD has revealed in it even though we know it’s been corrupted 3:31 and the Torah has been around before it 3:39 ‘Words’ are the Quran, there is no change to it, and slanderers cannot add to it or subtract from it 3:50 According to literal Christian’s the “Gospels” “the Bible” are not GOD’S words but they are divinely inspired ,unlike the Quran which is verbatim THE WORD OF GOD❤️ 4:05 again ‘Words’ is the Quran 4:15 It doesn’t Now go make sadaqa with the money u just spent
exactly haha, Surah Al Maidah 12-13, 'Allah made a covenant with the Children of Israel and appointed twelve leaders from among them... they distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold.' God is not referring to the modern Christian/Hebrew scripture Christians read at the moment when he says abide by the Gospel and the Torah; he is referring to what they were millenia ago!
You have no idea how many times I’ve destroyed Muslim arguments with this bit of knowledge. They still try and weasel their way out to keep slamming their head into the wall. Oh, and the whole the “Quran has been preserved” thing is false. There is over 30 versions and variations today with over 95,000 differences. Even the original Quran was split into 7 different editions to allow different Arabic dialects to read. Except they forgot to make sure that all the verses were exactly the same. Cause they weren’t, as can be shown today.
@@TheTemplar168 don’t forget how in their authentic hadiths it records how many years after Muhammad’s death there was so many different Qurans that were so contradictory from eachother a uthman commanded to get all those Qurans and burn everything then make a brand new standard version and then somehow that standard Arabic version later turned into several Arabic versions, the Quran historically legit can’t be trusted that it was preserved
@@Faithexplorer4376again, you try and twist your verses in favor of you. Not what they flat out say. And I ask again: where is the proof of the Injil’s existence? You can make all these claims if you like, but they won’t stand or be counted as valid without the proof to back it up. Give us the evidence that there was a different Gospel than what we have. Just because “something makes sense” doesn’t suddenly make it correct or truthful.
It’s not even just the variants.. because remember, there are variants in the Bible manuscripts we have. One has to think of how many witnesses we have of the Bible (the amount of manuscripts as well as quotations and references used by people), as compared to the Quran is HUGE. We have the Samaritan Pentateuch, we have the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint, the Alexandrian manuscript, etc. thus we are able to see if the substance of the Bible has actually changed. No it hasn’t. Things might be worded differently here and there, but it is the same meaning. That’s what happens when you translate one thing to another in a different language. Looking at the Quran, how many early manuscripts and copies do we have of it? We do not even have the pre-Uthman Quran.. and let’s not also forget that 25% of the Quran is said to be completely unintelligible and essentially untranslatable (thus they are called “the dark passages”). That is not good.. but yet this is often overlooked. There are also things which can easily be pointed out as being an error in the Quran.. like “the Samaritan” referenced as being the rebellious follower of Moses who created the golden calf. Samaritans weren’t even around at that time
Ahh yes a book about a guy from long ago talking about jesus hundreds of years later by a man who didn't know anything about the old testament very trustworthy....
@@McShawtieDoggoit defies the very definition of “miracle”, as Testify has demonstrated in his miracles series. I don’t see how a book defies the laws of nature or physics.
@@TomAdo-ot4ci Comment 1: "Ahh yes a book about a guy from long ago talking about Jesus hundreds of years later by a man who didn't know anything about the Old Testament very trustworthy...." Counterargument: Historical Accuracy: The Quran is believed by Muslims to be the word of God revealed to Prophet Muhammad, who is seen as the final prophet in a long line of prophets, including those from the Old and New Testaments. While Prophet Muhammad himself did not study the Old Testament, his revelations in the Quran contain detailed knowledge of biblical stories and figures, which Muslims believe were divinely revealed. Divine Revelation: The Quran is considered a divine revelation, not a historical account written from human knowledge. This belief asserts that the information in the Quran is directly from God, who has complete knowledge of all past events, including those in the Old Testament. This makes the Quran a trustworthy source for Muslims. Consistency with Previous Scriptures: The Quran acknowledges previous scriptures (the Torah and the Gospel) and affirms their original messages, though it asserts that these texts have been altered over time. This perspective is not unique to Islam but is a foundational aspect of the faith, emphasizing continuity and completion of God's message through Prophet Muhammad. Comment 2: "Don't forget he couldn't even read" Counterargument: Miracle of Revelation: The fact that Prophet Muhammad was illiterate (unlettered) is actually a significant point in Islam, reinforcing the miraculous nature of the Quran. Muslims believe that an unlettered man bringing forth such a profound and complex text, filled with deep knowledge and wisdom, is a testament to its divine origin. Oral Tradition: During Muhammad’s time, oral tradition was a primary mode of preserving knowledge. His illiteracy did not hinder him from receiving, memorizing, and conveying the revelations. His followers meticulously memorized and later transcribed these revelations, ensuring their preservation. Comment 3: "yeah the book just fell from heaven or he just learned it from over 20 years in the desert without forgetting it..." Counterargument: Process of Revelation: The Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad over a period of 23 years through the angel Gabriel. This gradual revelation allowed for the message to be internalized and memorized by the Prophet and his followers. The process ensured the text was preserved accurately and disseminated effectively among early Muslims. Role of Companions: Muhammad’s companions played a crucial role in memorizing and writing down the Quranic verses as they were revealed. The preservation of the Quran involved a community effort, with many individuals memorizing the entire text, which safeguarded it against alterations. Comment 4: "it defies the very definition of 'miracle', as Testify has demonstrated in his miracles series. I don't see how a book defies the laws of nature or physics." Counterargument: Definition of Miracle: In Islamic theology, a miracle (mu'jiza) is an extraordinary event that surpasses human capability and understanding, attributed to divine intervention. The Quran, with its unparalleled linguistic beauty, profound wisdom, and consistency, is considered a literary and spiritual miracle. Linguistic Miracle: The Quran’s linguistic style, depth, and structure are viewed as miraculous, especially considering the Prophet’s illiteracy. The challenge posed in the Quran for anyone to produce a chapter like it has stood unmet for over 1,400 years, highlighting its unique nature. Impact on Society: The transformative effect of the Quran on individuals and society, its guidance on all aspects of life, and its consistency and preservation through centuries, all contribute to its status as a miracle in Islam. Its ability to provide moral and spiritual guidance across generations and cultures further underscores its miraculous nature. Conclusion In summary, these counterarguments highlight the Islamic perspective on the divine origin and preservation of the Quran, the significance of Prophet Muhammad’s illiteracy in reinforcing the miraculous nature of the Quran, and the broader understanding of miracles in Islam. This approach aims to clarify misconceptions and provide a respectful and informed response to the comments
a yes, the book that says God Ordered Isaiah to walk n@ked for 3 years very trust worthy... also that "Guy" fixed the Bible Issues like Joseph speaking to Pharaoh in the Bible while the Quran says "King" it's a fact you can either A) Just deny the Quran and Islam in peace B) Stay in a dilemma of fighting for your faith even thought you see alot of Christians are becoming athiests and Muslims C) Keep arguing and mocking until God blinds your heart from the Quran like these hate "apologetics"
Great point. If Allah is so adamant about preserving his word, how did he drop the ball so badly and allow the Torah and Gospel to be corrupted so badly that he had to send Muhammad to clarify the message.? And if he couldn't stop his revelation from being corrupted before, why should anyone believe that he could prevent the same thing from happening again, especially when the Surah that you quoted stated that people were already doing it during Muhammad's time? Allah and his sinless, perfect prophets need to do better. The Quran is self-refuting nonsense. A comedy of errors.
@@Just_a_Reflection because people are corrupt and imperfect. God lets the people to corrupt the books but will be p*nished in the here after like everybody else who wronged
Ok, since when did god promise to preserve the torah and bible (or injil as we might say) ? Because god did not make a promise that he will preserve those books then why can't it be corrupted?
@@rasyagi4570he did so when he said that his words can’t be corrupted, then went on to claim the Gospel and Torah as his words. Because he claimed them as his, either his word is corruptible, or it isn’t. Which means the Quran is also exposed to this should the answer be that his word is corruptible. But if it’s not, then the Gospel and Torah can’t according to the Quran. See the catch 22?
Ok I’m about to debunk this entire video: The claim that the Quran endorses today’s Gospel in its entirety and creates contradictions by doing so is based on a misunderstanding of the Quran’s teachings, the historical context of its revelation, and how Islam views earlier scriptures. The Quran indeed acknowledges that Allah revealed guidance to the prophets before Muhammad, including Moses, David, and Jesus (peace be upon them). It respects the Torah and the Gospel as they were originally revealed but makes it clear that these messages have since been altered by human hands. The Quran warns, “Woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, ‘This is from Allah,’ in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they earn” (Quran 2:79). This verse shows that Islam believes in the original revelations but also acknowledges that people have tampered with their contents over time. This concept is not unique to Islam; even biblical sources and scholars have recognized that changes occurred within the biblical texts. For instance, Jeremiah 8:8 in the Bible itself questions the accuracy of the Torah’s transmission: “How can you say, ‘We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord,’ when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?” This verse implies that even within the Bible’s tradition, there was an understanding that human scribes had altered or corrupted the original messages. Further evidence of this comes from New Testament scholars who have noted numerous variations across thousands of early manuscripts. Dr. Bart Ehrman, a well-known scholar of textual criticism, has documented that the New Testament manuscripts contain tens of thousands of variations, which arose due to scribal changes, intentional edits, and errors over centuries. This aligns with the Quranic position that earlier scriptures experienced human interference, which Islam believes ultimately warranted the final revelation of the Quran as a complete and preserved guide for humanity. When the Quran instructs Christians in 5:47 to “judge by what Allah has revealed therein,” it does not mean to endorse everything in the current Gospels word-for-word but rather calls Christians to seek out the essence of monotheism and the moral teachings originally revealed. This guidance is consistent with the Quran’s message that God’s revelations throughout history carried similar moral truths and monotheistic principles. The Quran praises past scriptures where they align with the true message of God but also corrects deviations. For instance, the Quran affirms Jesus’s role as a prophet and messenger of God, but it denies his divinity, a doctrine developed later by church councils rather than by Jesus himself. This view is actually supported by Jesus’s words in the Bible itself, where in Mark 12:29 he declares, “The Lord our God, the Lord is one,” upholding the same message of monotheism that the Quran emphasizes. If we are to take Jesus’s words directly, rather than later church interpretations, we find alignment rather than contradiction with the Quran. Another point raised in the video is the idea that the Quran promises the Gospel and Torah are preserved because “no one can alter God’s words.” The Quran indeed states in 6:115, “And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.” But this verse refers to God’s ultimate decree and truth, not necessarily to the specific texts held by various communities. In fact, the Quran distinguishes between Allah’s eternal message and the physical documents that humans handled, which could be and have been altered by human hands. The Quran’s statement about preservation is applied most specifically to itself as the final revelation, as it claims in 15:9: “Indeed, it is We who sent down the Quran and indeed, We will be its guardian.” Muslims believe that while previous scriptures were intended for specific communities and times, the Quran is meant for all of humanity and has been divinely protected from the errors that affected previous texts. The Quran’s stance on the original Torah and Gospel is essentially this: they contained true revelations from God, but later generations allowed human changes to creep into their texts. Historically, this position is not only understandable but also well-supported. Early Christian history reveals that the four Gospels now found in the New Testament were not the only accounts of Jesus’s life and teachings. There were many gospels circulating in the early centuries, each with differing accounts. The canonization process, which determined the “official” books of the New Testament, involved significant debate and was only settled centuries after Jesus. The Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, for example, debated the nature of Jesus’s divinity and formalized doctrines not directly found in the earliest manuscripts. If Christianity’s own history acknowledges doctrinal development and textual selection, then it is reasonable to consider that certain aspects of the Gospel may have been shaped by human influence rather than preserved as a purely divine revelation. Regarding the Quran’s mention of Muhammad being foretold in the Torah and Gospel, the Quran speaks of earlier scriptures containing references to a prophet who would follow Jesus. In 7:157, the Quran states, “Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel… it is they who will be successful.” Muslims believe that certain biblical references indirectly point to the coming of a future prophet. For example, in Deuteronomy 18:18, God says to Moses, “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.” Muslims interpret “a prophet like you” as a reference to Muhammad, due to similarities between Moses’s and Muhammad’s lives, such as their roles as lawgivers and leaders of a community. Additionally, in John 14:16, Jesus promises the coming of the “Paraclete” or “Advocate.” While Christian tradition interprets this as the Holy Spirit, some Muslim scholars argue that it aligns with the description of Muhammad as a “comforter” and “advocate” for monotheism. While these interpretations may not be universally accepted, they provide a reasonable basis for Muslims to see Muhammad’s prophecy as aligned with the biblical tradition. As for the claim that the Quran acknowledges Jesus’s followers would remain “superior” until the Day of Judgment, as mentioned in 3:55, it does not imply that the Quran supports all doctrines associated with later Christian groups. Rather, it means that those who follow Jesus’s true message-submission to God, worshiping Him alone-will ultimately prevail. The Quran critiques later theological developments like the Trinity and the deification of Jesus as deviations from his original teachings. Thus, the Quran’s assertion of success applies to those who adhere to Jesus’s teachings of monotheism, as opposed to the doctrinal interpretations that developed later. This is further backed by historical evidence that early Jewish-Christian groups, like the Ebionites, also viewed Jesus as a prophet, not divine, and adhered closely to monotheism, aligning with the Quran’s portrayal of Jesus’s mission. To address the final claim that the Quran would contradict itself if it implies the Bible was corrupted but still tells Christians to refer to it, it’s important to understand that the Quran often addresses specific communities and situations. When the Quran instructs the “People of the Book” to look to their own scriptures, it is encouraging them to find the original monotheistic message and moral guidance that aligns with Islam. The Quran acknowledges that remnants of truth remain within these texts even if alterations exist. This is why 5:48 emphasizes the Quran as a “guardian over” previous scriptures, preserving their core message while correcting deviations. Just as a historian can critically examine texts with known edits and still extract truths, the Quran encourages Christians and Jews to seek the foundational truths in their own scriptures while inviting them to see the Quran as the final, unaltered confirmation of God’s message. The Quran’s position is therefore not contradictory. It respects the original revelations, recognizes the human alterations they underwent, and asserts itself as the final, preserved guidance. This aligns with historical evidence of biblical alterations, doctrinal debates, and the evolving nature of early Christianity. If we apply this understanding, we see that the Quran’s acknowledgment of the Torah and Gospel as originally divine does not mean it endorses every aspect of today’s versions. Instead, it serves as a reminder of God’s consistent call to monotheism, morality, and guidance across ages, culminating in the Quran’s final, safeguarded revelation. This continuity, rather than contradiction, forms the foundation of the Quran’s message.
@@bobncpenguin No brother, Islam is the truth. Allah is the lord, king, most merciful, and one and only true God. There is none like him. He has no children, parents, or partners. It is you who must repent and ask Allah for forgiveness before it is too late. Because according to the Quran, whoever believes in Allah, his prophets, and his oneness will enter paradise. May Allah bless you and guide you to the right path. If you have any comments, questions, problems, or concerns about Islam please let me know and I’d be happy to answer. I can answer any question you have about Islam and Christianity because I’ve studied and understood both of them hard and even converted several Christians to Islam. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and the #1 religion with the most converts. Again, please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. May Allah bless you and everyone else! ❤️
Some of my thoughts/questions. Muslims often claim/say your Gospel was lost or corrupted. But is it not (from their worldview) Allah's Gospel? From what I have read, the Quran claims the Gospel was preserved & present at the time of Muhammad. Then why don't Muslims take responsibility for retaining the Gospel. The Gospel is supposed to prove Muhammad is a Prophet. It seems common sense they would keep copies of the Gospel/Injeel to show the evidence for Muhammad. And I mean from Muhammad's time forward.
That’s exactly the problem. They don’t have proof of an “original” Gospel, which leaves the ones we have as the only valid ties to what the Quran claims. Then there is the issue of the Bible and Quran contradicting each other on many subjects: was Jesus God or not, how to get to Heaven, even some of the events of history like Abraham putting up Isaac or Ishmael. So the Quran can’t be a continuation of the Bible. And there’s the point of the whole video, where it shows how the Quran ends up false any way you slice it. Either the Bible is true and the Quran is false, or the Bible is false, in which case the Quran is wrong to claim it as there is no proof of any “original” Gospel to bail it out
They can’t tell you what the injeel is, so it’s hard to answer you unless you speak to a Muslim directly. As their theology is just head canon, there’s no standardization or reason. Erik is even making an assumption that injeel is gospel, as they claim the true gospel was given to “Isa son of Myriam” then was corrupted. But that begs the question, where is the original injeel? If they claim it is the gospels then you run into Erik’s refutation. If they sense that coming they will claim we don’t know and the gospels were all made up. So then you need the historicity argument which they deny vehemently. I’ve also been told the injeel is the gospel of John alone, which doesn’t work for so many reasons 😂 hope I helped but to answer you, they don’t even know so don’t worry if you’re confused. You should be, God is not the author of confusion or the Quran.
@jacobfavret1729 I get all that. My point is the Muslims put the onus on Christians. When the onus and responsibility is really on the Muslims to have kept and preserved the Injeel/Gospel....(in truth iNGEL is just short for evaNGELion...aka "NGEL" But to me, it amazes me that Muslims get off scott free from not preserving "Muslim" scriptures. As they claim Jesus was a muslim.
@@Uncommonvirtue777 Argument 1: "They don't have proof of an 'original' Gospel, which leaves the ones we have as the only valid ties to what the Quran claims." Counterargument: Islamic Perspective on Previous Scriptures: Islam teaches that the original revelations given to previous prophets, including the Gospel (Injil) given to Jesus, were true and from God. However, these scriptures were altered over time. The absence of the original texts does not invalidate the claim; it aligns with the Quran's assertion of textual corruption. Historical Context: Historical and textual criticism of the Bible indicates numerous alterations and inconsistencies. The Quran's claim of alteration finds some support in these scholarly findings. Therefore, the Quran's position is not inherently baseless but is rooted in historical and textual analysis. Argument 2: "The Bible and Quran contradict each other on many subjects: was Jesus God or not, how to get to Heaven, even some of the events of history like Abraham putting up Isaac or Ishmael. So the Quran can't be a continuation of the Bible." Counterargument: Clarification and Correction: From the Islamic viewpoint, the Quran was sent to clarify and correct the alterations in previous scriptures. The Quran provides what Muslims believe is the correct understanding of theological concepts and historical events. Different Covenants: Islam sees itself not as a contradiction but as the final and complete revelation, building upon and correcting past messages. The differences in theological points, such as the nature of Jesus, are seen as clarifications rather than contradictions. Argument 3: "There is no proof of any 'original' Gospel to bail it out. They can't tell you what the Injil is." Counterargument: Concept of Divine Revelation: The Quran's assertion is that the Injil was the revelation given to Jesus, distinct from the gospels written later. Muslims are not required to provide a physical copy of the original Injil to validate their beliefs, as the Quran itself is considered the final and preserved word of God. Reliance on Revelation: Muslims believe that God’s revelation through the Quran is sufficient proof of the original messages. The Quran reiterates and reaffirms the core messages of earlier prophets, which is seen as evidence of their continuity. Argument 4: "Muslims put the onus on Christians. When the onus and responsibility is really on the Muslims to have kept and preserved the Injil/Gospel." Counterargument: Historical Context: According to Islamic teachings, the preservation of previous scriptures was the responsibility of the communities to whom they were given. The Quran was revealed to be the final and protected scripture, and its preservation was ensured through meticulous oral and written traditions. Role of the Quran: The Quran serves as the final and complete guidance, superseding previous scriptures. Therefore, the preservation of the Quran takes precedence, and the belief is that it encompasses the true essence of all previous revelations. Argument 5: "Jesus was a Muslim. Muslims should have preserved 'Muslim' scriptures." Counterargument: Definition of 'Muslim': In Islamic terminology, a 'Muslim' is someone who submits to the will of God. Therefore, all prophets, including Jesus, are considered 'Muslims' in this sense. This does not mean that the community of Prophet Muhammad was responsible for preserving previous scriptures. Role of Successive Revelations: Each prophet's community was responsible for their own scriptures until the final revelation (the Quran) was given to Prophet Muhammad. The Quran's role is to act as the definitive guide, encompassing and confirming previous revelations. Argument 6: "The Quran ends up false any way you slice it. Either the Bible is true and the Quran is false, or the Bible is false, in which case the Quran is wrong to claim it." Counterargument: Correction, Not Contradiction: The Islamic perspective is that the Quran corrects and finalizes the previous revelations. The assertion is that the Bible contains elements of truth but has been altered. Thus, the Quran can be true even if parts of the Bible are not, as it aims to restore the original message. Scriptural Integrity: The preservation of the Quran, supported by historical evidence of consistent manuscripts and widespread memorization, strengthens the claim of its authenticity and divine origin. This preservation is seen as fulfilling the promise that the final revelation would be protected from alteration. Conclusion In summary, the Islamic perspective on the Injil and the Quran's relationship with previous scriptures is nuanced and deeply rooted in theological and historical contexts. The arguments presented by critics often misunderstand or misrepresent these beliefs. By clarifying the role of the Quran as a final and corrective revelation, the consistency of its preservation, and the broader theological framework, a more accurate understanding of the Islamic position can be provided.
the gospel was NOT preserved at the time of mohammed, it was already corrupted. plus, why preserve something old, when god gave us his words again. we should preserve the quran because it's essentially god's last words
1:15 Surah 3:3-4: "He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel." You can not write whatever you want to if you directly refer to the verse. And your argument is really something that is meaningless in İslam. Of course Muslims believes Torah and Gospel is sent by God. You cannot become Muslim if you reject them. But that Torah and Gospel is the original ones that is sent to respective prophets directly. It is known that Bible is changed based on who wrote it. If you change even one letter from the God's words how can you claim that the book is from God? Original Torah and Gospels are the words of God which you do not have in this day and age. The ones that has written by the people later on is not the words of God, so they are the corrupted books and different from the original ones. I cannot believe how can one not understand this. Bible is in your hands and houses is not the gospels mentioned here.
@@frajsk803 you are referring to 6:115. "And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change His Words. And He is the AllHearer, the AllKnower." If you cut it in half you are changing everything. In the beginning it is said "the word of your lord has been fullfilled" How it is fullfilled? with Quran. The word that cannot be corrupted here is the Quran. So yes, no one can change and did not change the word of God, Quran. We still read the same Quran. It is not corrupted and it includes the same message sent before it. Since Quran - the final word of god remains the same and in the end the world still has the same message available, don't you think this surah remains true?
@@frajsk803 cherry picking verses is not gonna debunk anything until you tell me who wrote the bible and why Christianity only started after 400 years after fake Jesus death
I once had a conversation with a Muslim friend of mine, and I share with her some of this points about the inconsistency of Islam. She replied to me that when the Quran talks about the facts that Jews and Christians need to obey their Scriptures, the text is not referring to the ones alive in Mohammed's days but to those alive when the Scriptures were not corrupt yet, and when the Quran says that nobody can change God's word, it's referring specifically to the Quran and to no other book, or it refers to the fact that God's will is undefeated. How can I efficiently answer such claims?
You could ask her to prove that the key dogmas in both the Old and New Testaments are corrupted (such as, God being a Father, Priestly hierarchy, etc.)?
There's over 20 verses in Quran confirming the scriptures in our *_possession_* in 7th century. If she doubts it, show her 5.43 Tafsir of Ibn Kathir. Mohamad is literally holding a COPY of the Torah in the 7th century and swearing by it, even though he never read it. 5.41-44 Tafsir Ibn Kathir They arranged a pillow for the Messenger of Allah and he sat on it and said, «ائْتُونِي بِالتَّوْرَاة» (Bring the Tawrah to me.) He was brought the Tawrah and he removed the pillow from under him and *placed the Tawrah on it,* ✋📕✋ saying, «آمَنْتُ بِكِ وَبِمَنْ أَنْزَلَك» *(I trust YOU* and He Who revealed it to you.) 👉📕
Same story in Hadith, in case she doubts the Tafsir. Sunan Abi Dawud 4449 They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: *Bring the Torah. It was then **_brought._* He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: *I believed in **_thee_* and in Him Who revealed thee. Grade: Hasan
Here's the context of "none can change God's words" 6.114 Allah gave you the Quran and to those whom Allah gave [the prior scriptures] they know it [the Quran] is the truth 6.115 The words [in the prior scriptures] have been fulfilled [about the Quran and Mohamad]. *None can change His words* Q: *_WHY_* do they know the Quran is true? A: *_BECAUSE_* none can change his words. Therefore they will find it written in their books. So actually "None Can Change His Words" is the REASON they KNOW that Quran is the "truth" because they can READ IT *_in their books_* because they're unchanged. But this has not been effective for me in the past, they don't accept interpretation of a Christian, only the words of Mohamad so better to just stick to giving them Mohamad's words.
the verse telling christians and jews to follow their scriptures says "YOU people of the scripture" which means mohammad is saying this TO the christians and jews in the present, not ABOUT the two groups from the past second, if the verse about changing allahs words said no one can change "the book" (which in the quran normally refers to itself) or "his word" id give them that one, but it says wordS, plural which means its not referring to the quran specifically because that would imply his other revelations are not actually his revelations, which would be a contradiction
@@ahmed_hamoda9783 it doesn't just reference, rather it's connected, we don't say the old testament was corrupted, but rather fulfilled in the New Testament. Islam however references these books and call them corrupted. And our books are made up of different other books, connecting with each one, and prophets reference the birth of Christ from the very beginning. Through the generational names that God provided to the fulfillment of those prophecies and God's law by Jesus. They still reference one another up to Revelations.
@@FollowChristbro the reason the books are called corrupted is because the people corrupted them (Rabbi's etc. , even during Jesus' time Scribes changed the Torah imagine what happened after Jesus (pbuh)) even Bible Scholars agree to that statement no? the transmission of the manuscripts alone has a significant impact Scrolls found in caves without diaritics that some Rabbi's have to change the words for the diacritics to make sense to the sentance? another thing... why was the 4 Gospels picked off the 50 Gospels? Gnostic and Infancy? Jewish-Christian gospels? is it because the 4 mention the Crucifixion? did you know that because of these same prophecies the Jews reject Jesus as he didn't do anything (like free the people from Romans for example) except Miracles and you claim he died? do you have a passage that say "The Messiah shall die for the people"? key word "Messiah/Anoited One"
Many commenters keep commenting that Jesus’ gospel is wrong. I’m genuinely curious as to how the gospel was distorted. Please let me here you out my brothers. I am very very skeptical of Islam.
That’s just it: there was no Gospel of Jesus. At least there is no proof of it existing. The Muslims keep claiming that there was an “original” given to Jesus and our Gospels are wrong and corrupt teachings, but without proof of this “original”, their claim becomes an excuse. Therefore, the only conclusion is that the Quran affirms the Gospel(s) in the Bible, and therefore condemns itself.
@zadasaida the bible do have multiple version, actually plenty, but the bible isn t God written book, it is hand made, quran supposedly isn't, but their is multiple versions, not translation, the quran isn t a monoblock, and even in one quran multiple interpretation exist, of a book supposedly so clear that everyone is supposed to agree on it , wich isn t the case
@zadasaida there are multiple version, not juste translation, and it have been altered. After Muhammad death there were so many version that they had to burn theim and make a normal one, wich isn t the first and so on. The quran isn t intact either, and thinking otherwise is delusional, there are no proof of significant alterations in the new testament too. We can make the naive blank statements too, and say that yours corrupt, it is not an argument. I ll stop talking to you your brainwashed
Muhammads mainly only had contacts with heretical forms of Christianity with strange views on Christology. That's why, Quran has misguided assumptions about Christianity and Christian texts.
His major source of information on Jesus is the gospel of Mary Magdalene. That's where he got the whole talking in the crib thing. Which as we now know is a gnostic gospel
@moosa86 no. In the koran the trinity isn't properly explained and it's said that Christian view the mother mary as part of it. Muhammad didn't know what most Christians actually believed, only a small group of Arabian heretics
@user-gc6wd7dm4w does Jesus talk in the crib in Qur'an or not? Which book had this information before Qur'an? It was the gospel of Mary Magdalene. Very clearly, the source of information for the Qur'an is this gnostic gospel. Which is a modern forgery. We know that now
@@moosa86 Jesus is God in new testament, but in Qur'an, he's not. Qur'an also gets the Trinity wrong than new testament, even if it was trying to condemn it. It also denies the crucifixion unlike the new testament as well as History itself. It also for some strange reason thinks that Jews think Ezra to be the son of God, if it had said that about Ezekiel, i could maybe understand. Mohammad's only source of information are gnostic gospels, so he makes them to be his authority over the Christians and pretends to be Allah's prophet to illiterate Arabs, most had no means of doing research on Christianity themselves.
@@RobinaRiyaz-jv3gn I'm not following my religion blindly.. I have many evidences.. Muhammad force the 7th century people to follow his religion blindly lol you busted yourself
@@Giorgi755 I. Busted yeah right mohammad did not forc3 the people of taaif He did not force Christian pastors He did not force heracles He did force Persians But Persians started war against the muslim He did not force king of Yemen How can say when u don't read the book as evidence proving wrong
NIV Galatians 1:8 “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!”
Exactly 💯 that verse alone should tell you the truth. Paul and everyone who wrote the Bible in their own way was preaching a gospel other than the one Jesus came to people with. Notice he says another Gospel not another book! So Jesus knew the Gospel will be corrupted and he warned you to follow who preaches another one. Yet you do!! And when God sent to you another book to save you, you called his prophet a liar and ended up believing in the belief of those who got under God's curse exactly like the verse you just used. May God guide you to his true path
@@naturalbeauty139 im sorry but this isnt how the Gospel works in the Bible . First and foremost when Paul saw Jesus and was told to go meet the disciples, Jesus also came to Peter and confirmed to him Paul was coming. Thus he became another apostle through Christ. Mohammed was not confirmed and in fact was laughed at for his openly out of place and false ideologies that he was trying to bring, when he went to the jews with the same thing they laughed at him as well. If anything the quran directly contradicts Jesus own teachings. Also, you make the comment “another gospel not another book” the gospel is “the good news” from Jesus Christ, the Quran is a separate “gospel” in this sense because “Allah” is revealing himself through Mohammed and the quran I would also like to point out that this curse you mention, the gospel of Jesus Christ being spread through the world has changed it for the better, freedoms, democracy, love, peace and prosperity. The places the gospel is widely accepted are always economic centers of the world, yet the middle east(where being a christian and owning a bible can get you killed)islam has virtually stayed the same for 1500 years with slavery and oppression? Please tell me again which one seems cursed
Keep on going Testify! You’re doing great! Also the Islamic argument that the Quran was perfectly preserved is false. There’s over 30 different variations and editions with over 95,000 differences between them. Even the original 7 editions have entire sentences changed between them and therefore context
I agree with daniel that the qiraat would be good to cover (the warsh and the hafs would be easy things to compare in a short video). I am currently writing a book on all the errors in the Quran and haddiths (its long). Another thing to consider covering as you seem to be covering logical contradictions within Islam would be the idea of tawhid (the oneness of God) and his names contradicting. God's most popular names all require other things to exist yet his names and their attributes (supposedly the only way we can know allah) are eternal. So the 99 attributes are supposed to be eternal and always exist yet his most popular names are: Ar-rahmaan - compassionate one Ar-raheem - bestower of mercy Al-wadood - the loving one how can you be loving, compassionate, or merciful if there is no object of your love, mercy, or compassion? The names have a bunch of issues like this and could be short. another short contradiction would be the Quran committing shirk by claiming to be eternal. Ascribing any divine attributes to anything is the worst sin. But the Quran says it is eternal written on golden tablets in heaven. This makes the Quran (the word of allah) co-eternal with allah and thus commits shirk. That or it makes a second part of the godhead in Islam which would destroy tawhid. Fun stuff. Idk what the last video you wanted to do was but here are 3 quick and easy ideas which every Christian and every Muslim should know.
@@KuzeyAkkaya-sb2nksure! These verses come from the Hafs version and then the Warsh version respectively. 2:132 “And Ibrahim enjoined on his sons…” “And Ibrahim instructed/made his sons…” 2:58 “…we give mercy…” “…he gives mercy…” 2:9 “…they deceive…” “…they seek to deceive…” As you can see, the verses are changed so that their meaning is completely different from one another. Granted the first one is more of a synonym change, but was meant to demonstrate different word use between them.
If Islam is correct, Jesus is both the second best prophet of all time AND he was such a bad prophet that he led his followers from Judaism to polytheism.
its because according to sahih muslim 6666 christians take on the sins of muslims so muslims can go to heaven, allah started christianity to create a population of sacrificial lambs
@@jdotoz Of course the Quran agrees with Christians that Jesus was the most perfect human to ever live. Even Muhammad has his sins revealed in the Quran but Jesus has no sins.
Reminds me that Islam and Judaism are equally monotheistic and worship the same God unlike Christianity having polytheistic beliefs. Judaism is truly the same as Christianity! Praise the lord!
Christianity isn’t related to Judaism, Christianity is the completion of Judaism, Judaism was the shadow of the arrival of Jesus, if you under prophecy, you will know Jesus was the fulfilment of Torah. Jesus said in the New Testament - He said to them, Luke 24:44 - “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.” If you are really a believer of God, you’d connect the dots, and not be like the Jews who rejected Jesus as the son of God that he claimed and proved.
@@pigswaatt218 I respect Christianity too. I unite it with Judaism and Islam. I only downgraded Christianity to the Jewish man to prove a point. I still hold it in high regard. God bless you too.
@@PrayYourSalatmonotheism doesn’t mean same God.. you Quran clearly contradicts the Torah in many places. How is the same God.. YHWH is the God of Abraham, you Quran God has no name.. Stop with this monotheism cop out.
My favorite line is from redeemed zoomer. "Knock knock, it's Muhammad. He's politely asking everyone to become muslim. When that doesn't work he asks less politely"
wojak fan spotted. and don't say thing like that. mohammed is no fictional character that is in public domain. it is never ok to make stories like that about religious figures. it is rude and disrespectful.
@@GoodMorning-b2w Sure, no more jokes about Muhammad. Btw what is wojak, I'm C.S. Lewis and Thomas Aquinas fan. I read, I don't watch a muslim dude walk around and attack The Bible. + At least I don't just disappear in comments after running out of arguments.
@@andro6534 bro.. wait, who that 'muslim dude' you're referring to? i don't watch any muslims attacking the bible, for i believe they're hypocrites, because i think a muslim should not mock or attack or 'debunk'' other religions. because the quran teaches religion tolerance. but sure, we have our believes about the bible being corrupted. but i don't personally agree with people who attack others. because there is really a chance that we are wrong. we don't have evidence, so we shouldn't attack. but that's a belief that i won't change in my heart. whatever, i'm contradicting myself kinda. but thanks, i won't mock any religion too. i said wojak fan, because you talked about 'zoomer'.. i'm no wojak fan myself. but i've been watchin such content recently because many yt creators of the genre have 'a day in the life ' video of different jobs and people. i love philosophy too, but i know so little about it. we're no pen pals. i must stop too. i do run out of arguments it's true. lol.. and i disappear
After looking into Surah 5:47-48, it quickly becomes apparent that the quran assumes that Christians have the Gospel and that Christians are to use it to judge Islam. That puts the Gospel above the quran. If the Gospel contradicts the quran, then the quran is false.
Needs some correction, 5.47-48 only tells the Christians to use the Gospel to judge for themselves, just like 5.43 told the Jews to judge by the Torah, but 5.48 still says Allah sent the Quran to the Arabs as the "truth," but Allah does not want us to be one people that's why he gave us each our own law (Torah, Gospel, Quran). So these verses specifically don't say the Gospel is above the Quran. Just that both should be used by different people. But there are other verses in the Quran that do give supremacy to the Torah and Gospel over the Quran. 10:94 - Mohamad doubted that Quran is from God, told to ask the Jews and Christians to tell him if Quran is true or not 21.7 - if you don't know something ask the Christians 7.157 - The Quran claims its validity through the Bible.
@@timd3895 Thank you for this response. The part I gather that says the Gospel is over the quran is where it commands People of the Gospel to judge. I agree it's for themselves, but judge what? I take it they are to judge the veracity of the claims Muhammed and the quran make, and so that is why I propose Surah 5:47 says the Gospel is above the quran. Thank you for your comment.
@@timd3895 10:94 the prophet responded with " When these verses were revealed, the Prophet (ﷺ) responded, “I am not in doubt and I will not ask ˹anyone˺.”" 21:7 EXPLCITILY talks about the messengers sent before the prophet, "We did not send ˹messengers˺ before you ˹O Prophet˺ except mere men inspired by Us. If you ˹polytheists˺ do not know ˹this already˺, then ask those who have knowledge ˹of the Scriptures˺." 7:157 there's slight argumentation about if verse 7:157 is talking about Moses or the prophet because of the verses leading up to that exact verse was about Moses peace
@@hermanwooster8944 judge good and bad, punishments etc. the Gospel is not over the Quran the Quran is the Criterion over the Torah and Gospel Gen 2:1-3 says God Rested on the 7th Day Quran says Allah did not get tired making the Heavens and the earth the Bible says Abraham and Joseph to Pharaoh Quran says Abraham spoke to someone who Allah gave Kingdom and Joseph to a King and MOses to Pharaoh verse 5:47 is is not talking about "The Gospel is over the Quran" shown by the verse itself 5:48 which explicitly says the Quran is the Supreme Authority over Previous Revelation
The gospel that immediately vanished without a trace in history, yet Jesus was a successful prophet and the apostles were victors according to 3:55 and 61:14? That makes sense to you? Muhammad said these were books they had in the 7th century, books he said they themselves would find him in. What do you think he was referring to?
@@TestifyApologeticsAll the tafsir books agree that the followers of Jesus in question are his followers from the time his message was pure and unadulterated. Secondly it also means Muslims who follow him the way he is meant to be followed and I will prove that with this verse 5:116 And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen. Do Muslims worship Jesus? No. Do Christians worship Jesus? Yes. Who is following Jesus's law then? Muslims are. Which make them the true believers who shall be placed above others. For 61:14. The verse is self explanatory. Jesus praises his desciples for following him and the message Allah sent through him. They are the good believers. The Gospels you have today are not written by some Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Even your Christian scholars agree that no one is certain who wrote the gospels and they are merely attributed to these certain individuals but there is no concrete evidence that these people wrote the gospels word for word.
@@rida-18 Tafsir did not agree on JESUS if JESUS think GOD has a father and son. Stop lying satan. ISLAM CAUSED ALOT OF DESTRUCTIONS AND DEATH BECAUSE OF THE FALSE PROPHET MUHAMMAD
@@Faithexplorer4376 I might be wrong so please correct me, but as far as i'm aware in islam you believe that the word of allah is unchangable and uncorruptable, and also believe that the bible and torah are the word of God, but the Bible contradicts the Quran. You obviously know more about Islam than i do so i assume you have a good anwser for me
@@Faithexplorer4376again, you try and twist your verses in favor of you. Not what they flat out say. And I ask again: where is the proof of the Injil’s existence? You can make all these claims if you like, but they won’t stand or be counted as valid without the proof to back it up. Give us the evidence that there was a different Gospel than what we have. Just because “something makes sense” doesn’t suddenly make it correct or truthful.
@@JesusisKing-b4jhe’s gonna give you the same narrative: that there was an “original” Gospel given to Jesus called the Injil. This is supposed to contain what Muslims believe is the true message. They argue that this Injil was never actually changed and therefore uncorrupted. That the Gospels in the Bible were made completely separate from it, using it as a basis for their creation. The problem is there is no evidence of its existence. Not even asking for a copy, there is no proof of it existing. And worse, the verses both you and the video mention refers to the Gospel in the present tense, suggesting it was around in the false prophet’s time. And because we have no evidence of the existence of the Injil, the only valid conclusion is that the Quran refers to the Gospels in the Bible. All 4 of which contradict the Quran.
@zadasaida Maybe because Jesus knows that there would be others before him claiming to be prophets. That’s why he said “prophets” instead of “prophet”. Because his not warning about only one prophet. I mean I’m pretty sure there are lots of people back in the day claiming to be prophets not just Muhammad.
in the bible and or the torah mohammed was mentioned as the final prophet. but clearly you don't know that, because you're busy getting married without an official marriage.
@zadasaida nope. think or think not. it's about the truth. you should ask for a religious scholars' thought not some fan of a yter who is looking for quick cash. mohammed is not a false prophet.
I never thought about doubting the righteous living God for a false one, I just doubted why I couldn’t be in full argument over the truth, (I’m a novice follower of Jesus) but what I know from the Bible is, “he who has ears let him hear”, “do not dash your foot on the stone when you fall”, and “if they do not welcome you simply turn around and wipe the dust off your feet”. I don’t know too much from the Bible but these are scriptures I’ve recently read, and (I think) tells me that I should worry about those who are interested in the truth than those who defend a lie. I also encountered Jesus a few months ago, and now nothing in this world can deter me from what I experienced or saw. Thank you Jesus Christ for your light, and thank you God for allowing your Holy Spirit to reveal your son to me, the son who was made Man and crucified for the salvation of all those who believe and worship Him
@@GoodMorning-b2wQuran is false, and debunks itself. Also, kind of hard to deny Christ when you’ve encountered Him. Maybe you ought to think about changing your faith.
@@Faithexplorer4376prove it. And Testify has literally done videos addressing how they were written earlier than we think. Not to mention, tell me how long after the false prophet passed were the earliest Hadiths written? Hm?
as a muslim before watching this video i had strong faith in islam and after watching I have even more faith in islam everything this guy is arguing is either based on misinterpretations of verses or jumping to conclusions whenever it benefits him im not bothered typing all the rebuttals, but basically one of this guy's main point is that the quran says that the torah and injeel (gospel) are gods words, but then it says that that they have been altered. when the quran talks about them being gods words, it means the unchanged, true gods words that were actually given to the prophet musa (moses) and prophet isa (jesus). when the quran is 'confirming what was before it' its confirming the actual unchanged torah and injeel, not the altered stuff another rebuttal i have is for 5:56, where this youtber says that the quran says that the 'quran implies that jesus and his apostles were successful preachers of Islam, and will be till the end of the age (judgement day), but the quran doesnt actually say that. instead the quran says that it will make 'YOUR FOLLOWERS' (prophet isa's followers) superior, which does NOT imply anythigng about jesus being a successful preacher to everyone, only a few of his ACTUAL followers. even in the video the youtuber says that the quran 'IMPLIES', when in reality this is just a blatant misinterpretation. In the verse that this youtuber quoted, nowhere does it say that Jesus was successful. However, I can also use the youtubers own argument against him as the quran states that allah will 'make your [talking about jesus's] followers superior to those who disbelieve', which directly coincides with the fact that during the last sermon of the prophet muhammad, he said, '"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety and good action." this quote basically means that no one is superior to the other except in good deeds and piety. exactly like the verse if you realise the misinterpretations and assumptions that are said by a person who strategically speaks fast to seem smarter and logical, you can clearly see that Islam is perfect, the quran is perfect, and that moses, jesus and muhammad were all prophets of islam, peace and blessings of allah be upon them all.
and also the literal biggest thing that has made me never even consider christianity as being the true religion, if you search up what the trinity is on google, the first image that comes up is a diagram explaining it. it says that the father, son and holy spirit are all separate, but they are all god? god is the most powerful, god is the most knowledgeable, god is the most high, but if there are multiple gods, how can they all be number 1? either theres only 1 'all-powerful' or there are no 'all-powerfuls', do you get it? you can be the best at something if there is someone else is as good as you, you know? 'oh but god just incarcerated himself into being human, but hes still god at the same time' but god is the absolute perfection? how can a god in god form and god in human form both be perfect? again, the same logic, human ≠ god, god = perfect, human ≠ perfect, jesus ≠ perfect and also Testify if you're reading this if you're going to make more of these videos, do not mock Islam. or any other religion honestly. the way you talk about islam in these videos, and with the pictures of people dressed in Arab clothes with like the red stained eyes is kinda annoying and makes someone not want to open their mind to your arggguments. also a lot of muslims arent even arab lol like im not even arab
what the hell is wrong with people in the comments? "Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind." -Quran, Surah 22, Verse 46.
So my heart is blind for not supporting things like child marriage which is found in Surah At-Talaq (65:4) backed by Muhammad marriage of Aisha at 9 women having half the testimony of a man because they are deficient in the mind hadith (Sahih Bukhari 2658) I'm blind I guess because I don't support Muhammad having intercourse with married captives aswell in Sahih Muslim (3432) which Allah allowed Surah An-Nisa (4:24) Islam also allows polygamy slavery (ik it's different but enslaving someone is bad you can't strip someone from their rights without consent) the Quran also provides Alot of sceinfic inaccurates like bones were made before the flesh in Surah An-Nisa (4:24) the sun orbiting the earth in Surah Ya-Sin (36:38-40) mountains stabilizing the earth Surah An-Naba (78:6-7) humans being made from clay Surah Al-Hijr (15:26) humanity shrinking in height Sunan Ibn Majah (4030) Sahih Bukhari (3320) and Sahih Muslim (5479) dripping a fly and eating it's wing is dumb asf
So my heart is blind for not supporting things like child marriage which is found in Surah At-Talaq (65:4) backed by Muhammad marriage of Aisha at 9 women having half the testimony of a man because they are deficient in the mind hadith (Sahih Bukhari 2658) I'm blind I guess because I don't support Muhammad having intercourse with married captives aswell in Sahih Muslim (3432) which Allah allowed Surah An-Nisa (4:24) Islam also allows polygamy slavery (ik it's different but enslaving someone is bad you can't strip someone from their rights without consent) the Quran also provides Alot of sceinfic inaccurates like bones were made before the flesh in Surah An-Nisa (4:24) the sun orbiting the earth in Surah Ya-Sin (36:38-40) mountains stabilizing the earth Surah An-Naba (78:6-7) humans being made from clay Surah Al-Hijr (15:26) humanity shrinking in height
The life of Muhammad already shows he is not a good person he told Aisha to throw dust at women mourning the deaths of their husbands in Hadith 925 if anything no offense or disrespect you guys are blind because Islam is just a worse version of Christianity just like how Christianity is bad Islam takes that by 10 folds
@@TestifyApologetics Just asking why dont you prove that judaism or buddhism or any other religion is wrong? Why wont you prove that satanists are wrong? why do you have to do your best to prove that muslims are wrong? Look ill subscribe to your channel and do a research about your religion ONLY if you have a debate with the sheikh othman on youtube and post the video
@@Watrmlontea Water is essential for all living things. We all know that water is vital to life but the Quran makes a very unusual claim: ... And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? (Quran 21:30) In this verse water is pointed out as the origin of all life. All living things are made of cells. We now know, through intensive scientific research, that cells are mostly made up of water. For example, 80% of the cytoplasm (basic cell material) of a standard animal cell is described as water in biology textbooks. The fact that living things consist mostly of water was discovered only after the invention of the microscope. In the deserts of Arabia, the last thing someone would have guessed is that all life came from water. 2. Iron Iron is not natural to the earth. It is not a natural resource on earth, instead Iron originated in outer space and was sent down to earth. This may sound strange but it’s true. Scientists have concluded that billions of years ago, the earth was struck by meteorites. These meteorites were carrying Iron from distant stars which had exploded. The Quran says the following on the origin of Iron: And We sent down iron with its great might, benefits for humanity ... (Quran 57:25) God Almighty uses the words ‘sent down’ for Iron. It is clear from the verse that Iron is not an earthly material, but was sent down for the benefit of humanity. The fact that Iron came down to earth from outer space is something which could not be known by the primitive science of the 7th century. If this choice of accurate words is not a sign that the Quran is the word of the All-knowing God, then what is? 3. Mountains The Quran draws our attention to a very important characteristic of mountains: Have We not smoothed out the earth ˹like a bed˺, and ˹made˺ the mountains as ˹its˺ pegs (Quran 78:6-7) The Quran describes mountains as 'stakes' which in fact is an accurate description of the physical characteristics of mountains. Today we have come to know, that mountains have deep roots which 'stake' the mountain into the ground. Actually, mountains have roots below the earth's surface far larger that the size of the mountain above the ground. The fact that mountains have deep ‘stake’ like roots was not known, until after the development of the theory of plate tectonics in the beginning of the 20th century. - Another sign that the Quran is the word of God. 4. Expansion of the Universe At a time when the science of Astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in Quran: We built the universe with ˹great˺ might, and We are certainly expanding ˹it˺ (Quran 51:47) The fact that the universe is expanding was discovered in the last century. The physicist Stephen Hawking in his book ‘A Brief History of Time’ writes, “The discovery that the universe is expanding was one of the great intellectual revolutions of the 20th century.”. The Quran mentioned the expansion of the universe even before the invention of the telescope! These are just some of the many scientific facts found in the Quran. It is important to note that the Quran is not a book of science, but that it is consistent with science. To claim that scientific facts in the Quran are due to coincidence would be irrational. Rather, the Quran is a result of revelation revealed by the All-knowing God to his Prophet. The main purpose of identifying the scientific facts mentioned in the Quran is to affirm that there is an All-knowing God that exists. We affirm this by concluding that the facts mentioned in the Quran over 1400 years ago in a civilization with almost no scientific advancements could not have been known by anyone other than the Creator. From here we then identify that science does not conflict with the concept of God, rather it is more logical to say that God, the Creator, has perfected the creation of the universe and all that is within it. This perfection is governed by systems and rules that we call science. Through the Quran, God tells us some of the 'secrets' of the universe's creation/systems, if only humanity would listen. Just like the Quran contains knowledge about the natural world, it also contains information about the inner dimensions of our souls. It relates to our feelings, wants and needs. The Quran informs us that we have a purpose in life, and that following God’s guidance will lead us to inner peace in this life, and Paradise in the hereafter. And that rejection of his message will lead to depression in this life and Hellfire after death.
We will show them Our signs in the universe and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that this ˹Quran˺ is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is a Witness over all things? (Quran 41:53)
We literally have no original Quran. Mohammad was illiterate and did not write, there was massive disagreement as to what the Quran should look like to the point where we don’t actually have an original Quran.
While I totally agree and makes the Quran less reliable, you have to remember we don’t have the original copies of the Gospels or Bible either. So this isn’t as big an argumentative point as you think. It’s about showing how Islam can’t be correct with its own material, like how it claims the Gospels as revelations from Allah. The Quran then says his words can’t be corrupted, and refers to them in the present tense, which suggests they were around at this time. And the claim that there was a completely different and original one falls flat since there is no proof of its existence. Boom. Checkmate Islam.
@@TheTemplar168 The Quran affirms the authenticity of the Injeel, not the Gospel. And yes, his words cannot be corrupted. However, that doesn't mean that people cannot change his book that was written down and put in their own little texts and writings. His WORD is uncorrupt regardless, but not the changed texts in the Gospel. 2+2 = 4 is a universal truth whether you believe it or not. However, you could just come in and replace it as 2+2=3. However, the fact that 2+2=4 remains the truth and non-corruptable stands.
@@TheTemplar168 Read Tafsir Kathir about 2:57 the verse you are referring to is talking about the Quran, not the Injil, also there is no proof that Jesus rose from the death outside of the Bible
1:50 i think you should add the arabic text of the surah, plus point if u can read arabic / understand the language of the quran (tafsir). btw quran never mention "gospel" in that surah(al maidah 47. instead the surah mention "ahlul injil" mean "followers of injil", by muslim pov "injil" that christianity believe rn not the same as injil that revealead by jesus/isa AS(jesus by muslim pov).
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Galatians 1:6-9 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! According to Islamic tradition, Muhammad was visited by the angel Jibril (Gabriel), who revealed to him the beginnings of what would later become the Qur'an. God creates, Satan counterfeits. Matthew 7:15-20 Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
That was Satan not Gabriel, biblically, the angel gabriel DID NOT press mary against the ground until she couldnt bear it anymore and forced her to believe in Christ/God, he also started with Be no afraid, where as in islam, the "angel gabriel" supposedly appeared infrynt of Muhammed and pressed him against the ground till he couldnt bear it any more and told him to read and write, even though he said he couldnt, he also did not start it off with be not afraid, so the bible contradicts quran
@@TsukiYoruCrystalandKuro that’s what I think as well. It was most likely Satan posing as Gabriel to trick Muhammed into creating a counterfeit religion, Islam.
doesn't make sense because Matthew 12:26 "If satan drives out of satan, he is divided against himself, how then can his kingdom stand?" and in the quran it is obviously mentioned lots of times to not sin, which is against the idea of satan
@@average_9 It wouldn’t matter if you sin or not if you don’t follow Jesus in the first place. Satan will do whatever he can to deceive you and have you stray away from the Lord. He’ll do whatever he can to convince you that you don’t need Jesus Christ as your savior, whether you think that you’re a good person or not. As I said before, Islam is a satanic counterfeit. The Quran unequivocally points to the bible as being corrupt, despite the fact that the Bible is the most studied, commentated upon and dissected more than any book in history. Unlike the Quran, the Bible is also the best attested document of all ancient writings.
You people are Just like pharisees. Affirm means affirmative confirmation. Confirm can be affirmative or negative. Quran 4:47 Quran is sent to confirm what you have with you I am sent to confirm who you are Quran confirms what you have with you is corrupted. I confirm you are an imposter. Learn English.
Al Fadi and Cira International have done great work exposing the flaws and outright lies in the Standard Islamic Narrative. I highly recommend checking them out.
like? are the expert arabic speakers? even people who graduated from 3 universaties atleast and study Quran for Life say there's no Flaw in it 💀 i don't remember her name but she graduated from Birlin and other universaties and is expert in the Quran says it has no flaw and it's linguistic ability is a masterpiece you sure these are not hate speakers or bad translations?
@@ahmed_hamoda9783 its very clearly sarcasm. a) Muslims whine about hate all day despite the fact they openly hate all non Muslims and b) this is something Muslims are completed to say, despite the fact tis completely unfalsifiable and subjective and could never be a criteria for truth, the fact the Quran even makes an argument that bad is pretty clear proof it is not from God.
@@danielanthony8373 2 Cor 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
@@tommyplayzxd5453 But HOW do you know the Gospel mentioned in the quran is different than the Gospel the Christians have today? May you point me to the source you're getting this CLAIM from please?
@eastsideapologetics6147 the original copies of the gospels and the torah were lost and the earliest manuscripts we have are 300 - 400 after jesus. Plus we would obviously know because of contradiction. Bible has more contradictions than the quran.
ah yes. the joke religion that is christianity getting relieved by hearing about misinformation about another religion from an unqualified individual that is a yter looking for some quick cash
1:14 Verse 3 which follows carries the reported proof of the Oneness of Allah. Briefly stated, it means that the principle of توحید tauhid as de-scribed in the Holy Qur'an is not something peculiar to the Qur'an or the Prophet of Islam. On the contrary, Allah Almighty has sent Scrip-tures such as the Torah and the Injil, and His prophets, in earlier times. And this was they all professed and this was they all brought as the message. When the Qur'an came, it simply confirmed their truth. It did not present any new claim which could pose problems for people in its understanding or acceptance.
refuted in 5 minutes. Allah never promised to preserve the previous books. this is first grade knowledge lol. And cutting a surah out of context is expected from apologetics. find the light.
he clearly encourages people to read the book and use it as a form of authority. It is really clear that the christians had the gospel in their posession. How could they otherwise judge according to their book?? And if it's corrupted, why would Allah encourage use to use and read it?
@@stephanievandenberg5559 Your bible gets updates more than fortnite , maybe shut up if you dont want me to complete , how would even mary the virgin get jesus when she was married to joseph later not the god father , or did the god father rape mary?? that wouldnt be true for a god to reproduce with humans lol , debunked
@@stephanievandenberg5559True, another guy posted a giant comment above and the muslims are praising him, but in his third point about surah 5:47 he said allah is encouraging christians to read their bible and understand the essence of monotheism only. So is allah in the quran telling christians to read the gospels and pick and choose what they want only ?
For me its this simple. I will not trust the writtings of someone who never even met Jesus or knew his followers to tell me about Jesus. Most importantly I wont trust someone who claims the EXACT opposite of what Jesus said. Everyone around him knew he was calling himself God. Especially in John when Jesus says " truly I tell you before Abraham was born, I am"
In response to this video I'll address the claims made and refute them using strong arguments. The video relies on a misunderstanding of both the Quran and the Bible, and it fails to account for numerous contradictions within the Bible itself. Let's go through this step by step. The Quran's Relationship with the Bible: Misunderstanding Revelation. The video claims that the Quran endorses the Bible and therefore must be wrong when it disagrees with the Bible. This is a gross oversimplification. Key Quranic Position: The Quran acknowledges that the Torah and the Gospel were revealed by Allah but also explicitly mentions that these scriptures were subject to alteration and corruption by people. For example, in Surah Al-Baqarah 2:79, it says: "Woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, and then say, 'This is from Allah,' to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they earn." This verse clearly indicates that some people altered the original revelations for their own gain. This is not a contradiction but a recognition of human interference with divine texts. False Claim of Endorsement: The verses quoted in the video (like Surah 5:47) simply command the Christians of the time to judge by whatever remains of God's word in their scriptures, not an endorsement of every single verse in the current Bible. The Quran critiques the tampered parts while acknowledging the original divine source. This nuance is entirely missed in the video. The Preservation of the Quran: A frequent claim in the comments was that there are “30 versions and 95,000 differences” in the Quran. This is a gross distortion. Textual Variants Are Normal in Oral Traditions: The Quran was revealed in multiple recitations (Qira'at), which were not "different Qurans" but authorized variations to accommodate different dialects of Arabic. These recitations do not affect the meaning of the Quran but rather reflect different pronunciations and minor linguistic details. This is well-known in Islamic scholarship. Contrast with the Bible: The Bible, however, does not enjoy such preservation. The New Testament has thousands of variants across manuscripts. Bart D. Ehrman, a renowned biblical scholar, has noted that the number of textual variants in the New Testament exceeds the number of words in the New Testament itself. This is a severe issue for the claim of biblical preservation. Contradictions in the Bible: If the Quran’s foundation is questioned for its supposed contradictions, we must apply the same standard to the Bible. Here are some blatant contradictions in the Bible: The Death of Judas: In Matthew 27:5, Judas hangs himself. In Acts 1:18, Judas falls headlong, and his body bursts open. These are two irreconcilable accounts of how Judas died. Genealogy of Jesus: Matthew 1 and Luke 3 present two completely different genealogies for Jesus. They can't both be right. Creation of the World: Genesis 1 says that plants were created before humans. Genesis 2 says humans were created before plants. These contradictions raise questions about the Bible’s reliability as a preserved divine document. Misunderstanding the Role of Jesus: The video asserts that the Quran contradicts the Gospels on key points such as Jesus's divinity, crucifixion, and resurrection. However, the Quran was revealed precisely to correct these misunderstandings that crept into Christian theology. Jesus as a Prophet, Not Divine: The Quran in Surah An-Nisa 4:171 calls Jesus a prophet and a servant of God, not the Son of God. This returns to the monotheism of earlier prophets, which was later altered in Christian theology through Paul’s teachings and later councils, like the Council of Nicaea. Crucifixion: In Surah 4:157, the Quran clarifies that Jesus was not crucified but that it was made to appear so. This verse challenges the interpretation of the crucifixion in the New Testament, which, by the way, also contains contradictions: In John 19:14, Jesus is crucified after the 6th hour, while in Mark 15:25, he is crucified at the 3rd hour. Paul’s Influence and Gospel Corruption: Christianity today is more influenced by the teachings of Paul than by the teachings of Jesus himself. Paul introduced doctrines like the divinity of Jesus and salvation through faith (see Romans and Galatians), which are absent in the original teachings of Jesus. Even scholars like E.P. Sanders have admitted that Paul reinterpreted Jesus's message, shifting the focus from the Kingdom of God to personal salvation. Conclusion: The Quran Stands Strong: The Quran was revealed to restore the monotheism of previous prophets and correct the distortions found in earlier scriptures. The contradictions in the Bible, coupled with historical corruption, only reinforce the need for a final, unaltered revelation, which the Quran provides. The supposed "self-destructive" nature of the Quran is nothing more than a misunderstanding or willful misrepresentation. The claim that the Quran supports the unaltered Bible is misleading. The Quran distinguishes between the original revelations given to Moses and Jesus and the tampered versions that exist today. Additionally, numerous contradictions within the Bible itself discredit the idea that it is a perfectly preserved, reliable guide for Christians. As for the comments mocking the preservation of the Quran, those are based on ignorance or deliberate distortion of Islamic textual tradition. The Quran remains the only religious text with rigorous memorization and transmission methods, ensuring its preservation through centuries. Ultimately, the Quran critiques and corrects the errors found in the Bible, not the other way around. The accusations made in the video crumble under scrutiny. Why Did Allah Allow the Torah and Gospel to be Corrupted? In Islam, Allah's decision to allow human beings free will is fundamental. He sent guidance through different prophets and scriptures, but humans can choose to preserve or distort that guidance. The Torah and Gospel were revelations meant for specific peoples at specific times, and their corruption was due to human actions, not a failure on God's part. The Quran, as the final revelation, was promised divine protection from corruption, as stated in Surah Al-Hijr 15:9: "Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian." This differs from previous scriptures, which were entrusted to the religious leaders of their communities. The Quran, however, was given a special status as the final, universal message to all humanity, protected by Allah from the distortions seen in previous texts. Why Didn't Allah Prevent Corruption Before? Allah's plan for humanity includes the test of how people handle revelation. In both the Torah and Gospel, scholars, religious leaders, or political authorities could alter the message for personal gain. The idea that Allah should prevent every human action to maintain purity contradicts the principle of free will. He allowed humans to exercise their choice, even if that meant distorting His words. With the Quran, Allah ensures its preservation for all time as it represents the final guidance that cannot be altered for future generations. Historically, unlike the Torah and Gospel, the Quran has not suffered major textual corruption, and the multiple recitations (Qira'at) have been meticulously preserved. The Quran's Own Verses About Corruption Surah 2:79 criticizes those who distorted scriptures during Muhammad’s time, but this does not imply that the entire Torah or Gospel was completely corrupted beyond recognition. It highlights corruptions in religious teachings and practices that warranted clarification through the Quran, which returns to the original monotheistic message of earlier prophets. Why Believe the Quran Won't Be Corrupted? The Quran's protection from corruption is ensured by divine promise and the method of preservation. It was memorized in its entirety by many companions of the Prophet Muhammad, and this tradition continues today, along with the written text. There is no comparable process for the Torah or the Gospel. The textual transmission of the Bible, for instance, has suffered thousands of variations across manuscripts, as recognized by scholars like Bart Ehrman. Claim of "Self-Refuting Nonsense" This phrase is used without evidence. The Quran makes it clear that earlier scriptures were for specific peoples and subject to corruption by their religious authorities, which is why Allah sent the Quran to restore the true monotheistic message. This is not a "comedy of errors" but a consistent plan where God allows humans to be tested, giving them the freedom to distort or follow His guidance. Addressing "Allah and His Prophets Need to Do Better" This statement is emotional rather than logical. In Islamic belief, prophets were not sent to enforce God's message by force, but to convey it clearly and truthfully. Whether people followed or corrupted the message was a test for them. Criticizing God's wisdom reflects a misunderstanding of the larger purpose behind free will, divine testing, and human responsibility. In conclusion, the Torah and Gospel were not failures but fulfilled their purposes for their times. The Quran, as the final revelation, corrects the alterations made to earlier texts and is divinely protected from the same fate. The comment shared dismisses key theological principles and makes a shallow argument against the Quran’s reliability.
@@user-tk1qx forty to fifty minutes maybe.. I'm just trying to clear up misunderstandings man. We all have our own personal beliefs but that doesn't mean that you try to look down on other religions with misunderstandings right? We've gotta respect other people's opinions and beliefs. And even if we are "disproving" other religions, maybe we can try to do proper research.
@@ZombifiedZombieVillager I don’t remember where I reared the phrase: “you can found an scientific paper that says anything, what validates it’s others papers saying the same thing”. He probably could found sources that said the same thing and others contrary. When deciding witch one is valid he needed some criteria, he used the “Bible is true” = A as a true premises and the premise that “the Bible being true imply the Koran being false ” = B, he had from start had the conclusion defined.
Alright, Lets do this one last time *puts Spiderman mask on* "The Quran claims the Gospels are divinely inspired and preserved, yet it contradicts key Christian doctrines, such as the divinity of Jesus and his resurrection. ", The Quran does not claim the gospels are preserved, yet It is divinely inspired. Just completely flawed and unpreserved To tackle each point you made, we first have to take each ayat (verse) from each surah (Chapter) in full context to what was said BEFORE and AFTER it Surah Al Ma'ida 5:47 "So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious.", Indeed, Allah is telling the Christians to look in their own books for judgement, But allah says so as a challenge to the validity of the Bible, it's an arabic rhetorical device called "نكر" (nakr) Which means "to deny" or "to repudiate." It often pertains to rejecting something or refusing to acknowledge it in what may be a question, And The context in which it is used can vary based on the sentence structure and accompanying words. If we look in the same surah at Ayah 5:41 "O Messenger! Do not grieve for those who race to disbelieve-those who say, “We believe” with their tongues, but their hearts are in disbelief. Nor those among the Jews who eagerly listen to lies, attentive to those who are too arrogant to come to you. They distort the Scripture, taking rulings out of context, then say, “If this is the ruling you get ˹from Muhammad˺, accept it. If not, beware!” Whoever Allah allows to be deluded, you can never be of any help to them against Allah. It is not Allah’s Will to purify their hearts. For them is disgrace in this world, and they will suffer a tremendous punishment in the Hereafter." Later Allah says "They eagerly listen to falsehood and consume forbidden gain. So if they come to you ˹O Prophet˺, either judge between them or turn away from them. If you turn away from them, they cannot harm you whatsoever. But if you judge between them, then do so with justice. Surely Allah loves those who are just." . Allah then continues to use The example at how the Jews had the Torah revealed to them, and Denied the Bible and what Allah preaches, and how the Christians will deny the Quran in the same way. When he says let the people of the gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it, Its a challenge for the Christians to compare the gospel to the Quran, In terms of what Allah has brought in both scriptures. in the context of the surah, However it can not be taken outside of the Arabic context nor outside the context of what was said Before it. "The Quran's assertions about the gospels as reliable revelations clash with its own claims of corruption. This contradiction undermines the Quran's credibility as a divine text." We as Muslims acknowledge the gospel and the torah as holy books sent by Allah that were unpreserved my guy, We are not saying the versions we have now are Valid in any way, shape, or form. but the versions that were revealed to Jesus and Moses were sent by Allah, as well as all the revelations sent by the prophets beforehand. However we also believe that over time each scripture becomes corrupted, And people twist the words in them through translation and Lack of preservation or just overall confusion that they are unreliable and outdated, We don't believe that the Quran is the new and improved gospel, we believe that it is the same material Allah sent on all prophets, but this time it is preserved in it s original language, preserved through oral memorization passed on through centuries, and the exact same as the first source revealed to the Sahaba by the prophet (The companions of the prophet at that time) The Quran's perspective on Jesus and the Gospels can be understood within its own theological framework. As we as Muslims believe that the Quran provides the final and complete revelation, which may reinterpret earlier scriptures rather than contradict them. The differences can be seen as a clarification of previous messages rather than outright contradictions. The Quran acknowledges the Gospels as part of a broader divine message. Differences in theological interpretation do not necessarily imply contradiction; they can reflect the evolution of religious understanding over time. Each scripture serves its purpose within its own context. it suggests that alterations may have occurred over time. This does not negate their original divine inspiration but indicates a need for the Quran to provide the final, unaltered message. The Quran's confirmation of previous scriptures can be viewed as an affirmation of their original messages, while the contradictions may arise from differing interpretations of those messages. The Quran provides a new context for understanding these teachings. Any point you made after this can be answered with those same exact answers, and when an argument draws back to one conclusion, It usually means there s a lack of understanding to the Material that argument is based upon by said "debunk" Muslim apologists argue that the Quran critiques Christian and Jewish scriptures for corruption. But The Quran's critiques can be LITERALLY seen as addressing specific practices or interpretations of scripture that were prevalent at the time of its revelation which literally does not imply a blanket statement about the entirety of the previous scriptures but rather a call for adherence to the original divine message. "why Didnt earlier texts like the Torah and Gospels were not similarly safeguarded." There are whole books written by various theologians about that exact same question, and to put it simply it is because of translations my friend The original languages of the Bible And Torah are primarily Original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek. All languages that not only predate the Germanic languages we are used to now, but are also languages with different rhetorical devices, grammar structures, and just look ENTIRELY different The Hebrew spoken during the time of Moses (approximately 1300-1200 BCE) is considered to be an earlier form of the language that has evolved over time. While modern Hebrew retains many features of Biblical Hebrew, it has also undergone significant changes, including the addition of new vocabulary and grammatical structures. Therefore, while they are related, the Hebrew used during Moses' time is not the same as contemporary Hebrew. Preserving those books in their original language, then accurately depicting what they mean in our modern day languages not only proves to be a difficult task, but almost nigh impossible since The books of the Bible were initially written and copied by hand on papyrus scrolls. And NO originals have survived. You could then pull up the point of the preservation by oral practice, but that isn't something the The Christians nor the Jews do, unlike the Muslims who had this as a customary practice since The very first Preaching of the Quran, hence why people memorize the entirety of the Quran word for word, and could recite every verse in every chapter by order flawlessly, Also since the language that the Quran came in, Arabic, is still widely used nowadays We can make sure that there have been no adjustments IF you want further proof for that, your first point was literally drawn based on your lack of understanding of the rhetorical tools Arabic uses, (which is very ironic In my opinion) Which just proves that the language barrier will always lead to misunderstanding the context of Words
@@TheTemplar168ik i dont git proof and stuff and im probably sounding dumb but where is actual proof that the bible was written by jesus and not by some random author tryna brainwash people and same to the quran idk these stuff but someone correct me if im wrong pls
@@TheTemplar168 the real injeel is lost. you tell me... when "Jesus" was spreading the gospel what was he spreading? it wasnt his lineage or his lore it was the word of a one God.
This is why I'm not religious lmao. Because you Christians think this video basically disproves Islam, but there are arguments by Islam in response to this. Just like there are hundreds of videos disproving Christianity, and Christians can 'refute' those vids. SHOCKER people. You're both correct. Organised religion does not hold the truth u silly ppl.
All what i am thinking about is why do some christians shove their noses up in islam and keep complaining about how they hate it and not even making videos discovering their holy book or even reading it
You know a religious group (Christian’s) are desperate and insecure about their faith being true that they blindly follow a guy talking ignorantly about a faith that shadows over it to delude themselves to make them selves feel better
@@XZagatoX ik testify keeps on making false accusations trust me for example in surat al imran 3:3-4 it actually says He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
It's no mistake that the colors on all the flags of the Islamic Nations happened to be the colors of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. It's not a mistake because they follow the false prophet and their Beast is about to rise. But fear not,Jesus returns soon.
Oh yeah. Been putting that connection in the past few video comments now. Muslims seem to ignore when the Bible actively refuted their religion specifically despite it coming out centuries after these refutations were made. Coincidence? I think not.
Bismillah hir rahman nir raheem Human Opinions Dont change Facts Its not about Your point of view or A scholar Point of view. Both can be wrong i disagree on this video Entirely Just because some scholar say that bible is corrupted and but still u need to trust it. You cant disapprove of the whole Islamic Concept. Allah has discouraged us from reading the bible or any other holy book. But we need to believe that those are his words none the less. “Every Muslim is required to believe in the Torah, Gospel and Zabur , and that they came from Allah. So he must believe that Allah sent down the Books to the Prophets , and that He sent to them scriptures that contained commands and prohibitions, exhortation and reminders, and spoke of matters of the past, of Paradise and Hell, and so on. But he should not follow them, because they have been affected by distortion, alterations and changes. So he should not keep copies of the Torah, Gospel or Zabur, or read them , because this is dangerous, for he may end up disbelieving in something that is true or believing something that is false, because these books have been distorted and changed. " It is just some Muslims disobeying Allah's Words that is The thing that you Told in this video. Christians Believe in the fact there were god's messengers before Jesus For example in Moses and Noah what makes you say there will be no more. Our Quran has Said that there will be no messenger after Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). AS for your claim that Quran is the only one that hasnt change Its because of the fact Allah Himself Took Responsibility Of Quran. As for the other holy books they were in human hands. People Who say there are other Versions Of Quran are just translations and tafseer(explanations) however its clear proof bible has constantly changed. As for your claim that Quran claims that Prophet muhammad(PBUH) is hiding in the bible. We are taught that every Book contained signs of the final prophet some books containing hints while other containing descriptions. The only Reason Jews and Muslim are seperated is because of the fact they dont want to believe the fact that The last prophet wasnt from their tribe/family(bani israel). They Looked for him when he was born and found him and even went as far as to kill him. I do not have any proof except a fact that my teacher told me Prophet Muhammad [pbuh] was once on a trading journey when he was warned by a Christian Priest as they had spotted the signs that he should go home and Stay away from these areas containing jews who wanted to kill him Bible was true in its Era But after Jesus Disappeared(went to heaven and is still alive waiting for The antichrist(dajjal to come)) People Began making changes in it. I don't know when . Allah may not reveal everything Indeed Allah is The best of Planners and only he knows Everything. Remember Quran is not the sole Book people rely on as Islam We also look at hadiths/messages of the Prophet(PBUH) to mark such things . Just try Reading The Quran and the book of Hadiths Many People converted to Islam base on that.May God guide those who wanna be guided May Allah forgive me if im mistaken in any of these Things and May God Have Mercy On Everyone when the time comes and May peace and Blessings of God be On You. Side note: Ignore those muslims who Disrespect the bible and claim they have read the bible because Allah has forbidden both of those. Edit: Muhammad [PBUH] was an illiterate Who didnt even know how to read and write. But Quran is perfect just search up Mathematical, Science Miracles of Islam. Also people sometime say that muhammad [pbuh] didnt know anything about the bible but there are stories of every prophet in Quran. Anyone up for a debate please msg me on discord aayansh
@@TestifyApologetics it is like an article that is related to each other but you cut the verses without understanding the concept or the situation. Like an officer says " arrest the men " Does he mean arrest all the men in the world ? Or the men which are committing a crime in a situation? Please stop debunked verses like they are quotes . Sometimes they are related to the verses before or after .
@@terakoinfinity9523he didn't give the whole verse in 3:3-4 Here is the whole verse : He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. BEFORE, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an. Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution. Saw the word BEFORE ? Also he is saying that the bible has been corrupted without debunking verses like John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. Or Luke 18:18 And other and other that you can search online.
@@TestifyApologetics He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. BEFORE, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an. Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution. Saw the word BEFORE ?
@@harshmellow5103 he need to learn Arabic or at least ask a Muslims about his thoughts and then share in RUclips, because people who are looking for the truth work hard, he is just another hater
@@DaddyWasHere2why would he need to learn a language to give an opinion on a book or bring a random muslim into a Q and A just to show that he worked hard on this video when we can clearly see him taking the time to read a book that try’s to contradict the Bible and then says it can’t be contradicted
@@DaddyWasHere2 you the one who said he was just a teenager with no one to talk with. And that he had nothing to say and didn’t put any work into his video but even tho he made a 9 minute video that he spent 1-2 days just to edit , come up with a script to say, find what he was going to talk about, and bring it all together for a video. Not only that if you don’t want anyone to argue back with you then don’t say anything at all. And the fact you even went the “ your opinion is negative so you should talk about it”. Rout even tho you started by insulting someone else and there video. And the only reason why you said my comment wasn’t helpful is because you just don’t want to here your wrong but can leave without the final say so instead of brining info you just sent the true empty comment that only talked about how your feeling got hurt
All these muslims commenting that this proves nothing while not giving any explanation as to why besides just saying: "Ur sick and this sucks islam is real and not lies"
3:56 The Bible, Torah, and Gospel were changed due to: 1. Human Interference: Scribes and leaders made alterations to fit their views or agendas. 2. Translation Issues: Translations from Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek led to changes in meaning. 3. Lack of Preservation: Unlike the Quran, there was no divine guarantee to protect these scriptures from changes. On the other hand, the Quran cannot be changed because: 1. Divine Protection: “Indeed, We revealed the Quran, and We will guard it.” (Quran 15:9) 2. Memorization: Millions have memorized it exactly, preserving its authenticity. 3. Original Arabic: It remains in its original language. 4. Widespread Copies: Identical copies exist globally, ensuring consistency.
Galatians 1:9 NIV [9] As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
I like how the comment section looks because it proves my point that 90% of the christians in the west or islamphobe and this makes me think didn't your religion mention something about respecting other religions? or did one of your priests remove the verse talking about it as they do usually
@@GENERATIONALKINGS-rm6zt Bring me 1 verse that backs you up plus most muslims are super religious so if this was true you wouldn't even be standing on your legs and typing this comment you would be dead
@@GENERATIONALKINGS-rm6zt Tbh i can speak like you i can say "Christians can kill us all check their bible and happened to the people of amalek!" Even tho its missing context
1:07 its becouse it was changed (the holly books bible and the jews book where true how ever they are changed) god knows the future the past and the present
@V01D_K1NG (I'm a Muslim) then that just shows why you think the way you do about Islam I feel like we Muslims and Christians should actually learn more about each other's beliefs before arguing or making assumptions
The muslims claimed they know about Jesus and the bible better than the "ignorant Christians" and yet they don't even look at their own religion. One of the Quranic verses said "there is no compulsion in religion" but they want sharia laws implemented. Just so you know they believe sharia laws came from God himself and one of its laws said that apostasy shall be punished with death. This law contradicts with the Quran itself where there is no compulsion in religion. Hence while muslims are saying that the bible and the torah are corrupted, they don't even know their "islamic" laws are manmade to the point it contradicts with their "contradictionless book".
@@luciddreamer4954 bro. as you might suspect, i'm muslim. and i just have faith in me. there are many refutable claims. but i just have no time to address them. like why even bother. i just stick to my faith. whether true or false. it doesn't hinder my personal growth or make me face any discrimination where i live. i'm a woman btw. and if my life is good where i live, and my afterlife is potentially good. why waste time refuting such claims.
@@GoodMorning-b2wa female Muslim 😬 You are fully aware on what your book says about women, no? Either way, it is best to answer questions in your faith ALWAYS, every Christian questions their faith when they are presented with a counter argument, yet we always find a logical solution that doesn’t disprove us :] you ALWAYS gotta make sure that your life and actions are based on something substantial and credible
as a muslim, I respect all of your beliefs. But why are all the comments disrespecting Islam? Honestly, the tactic in these videos are “if you lose the argument, use the exact same argument again.” I’m not even sure you read the Quran, because you don’t have much knowledge about it, and don’t explain much from it. try actually reading the Quran and getting knowledge from Islamic scholars. Please don’t take offense from this comment, as I am not trying to offend you.
The Quran loses authenticity because it claims the Gospels as part of Allah’s revelations. It backs itself into a corner, and makes it so it can’t be correct. And you can’t make a claim that the Quran is referring to a different Gospel because there is no proof of an “original” Injil’s existence. Ergo, Islam debunked. We haven’t even touched the contradictions and scientific inaccuracies inside. And I wouldn’t be talking about being “respectful” from the religion whose primary method of spread was through conquest and colonialism.
Allah is reffering to the Quran only, the last and true book. The Gospel and Torah are incomplete versions which still has truth but are ultimately corrupted The Quran was meant to be the only one uncorrupted 3:42
I will take you and raise you to Myself and clear you [of the forged statement that 'Isa (Jesus) is Allah's son] of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you (Monotheists, who worship none but Allah) superior to those who disbelieve [in the Oneness of Allah, or disbelieve in some of His Messengers Surah 3:55 Who disbelieve in some of his messengers much to vague to only be pointed to Isa only and nobody other than him and also it’s to purify of the forged statements of the Bible. In which would verify that Isa would acttualy be correct until the day of the judgement 5:43
By the way one more thing if you want people to join your religion or whatever your motive really is I advise not to throw shade on other religions. It’s just very shady now It’s okay if you don’t want to believe in any of that just seriously stick to your own religion
I want a comparison video about Mormonism and Islam in general...lots of similarities yet one is heavily mocked while the other is not talked upon due to taboos (either fear for life or fear of cultural insensitivity).
Just, as an atheist, I’d like to correct a mistake of yours. 3:39 surah 6 verse 155 in the Quran does not talk about changing/ altering his words as in corrupting it. Looking at several Tafsir that are authentic and trusted sources (form ibn Kathir to Al Jalalayn) this verse it talking in the means of changing his last judgement. The Bible is not more trustworthy than the Quran. And it seems that you are making wrong statements in here.
@@MrAwesome457 oh darling, I’m an atheist extremely interested in theology, your statement is stupid. Also, hobby? I said that I am an atheist to not appear as a Muslim trying to make this video sound wrong only because it doesn’t fit my views. This man did a mistake, and his point is built on it. So it’s necessary to correct him.
@@luis_villagomez than why are there different testimonies? Shouldn't the word of god not be changed once so ever? What is the point of an author if the word of god is true without any alterations?
Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:46): "And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel (Injeel), in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous."
@VexonEditz The bible is based on Eyewitness testimony, It is a compilation of the notes that the apostles and eyewitnesses and various Kings wrote down, It wasn't just written buy one guy saying that (This is Gods word, Trust me bro) Instead it is compiled of many individual writings by different people who talked to Jesus and saw Jesus, Who's story's, Even though aren't necessarily interlinked, tell about similar events that happened, Further solidifying it.
The claim that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) "wrapped all religions around himself" falls apart when examined critically. First, Muhammad was known to be illiterate, and religious scriptures like the Torah and Gospels were written in languages uncommon in Arabia (Hebrew, Greek, Syriac). These texts weren’t widely available and were closely guarded by religious elites. The idea that he could have accessed, understood, and synthesized these texts without formal training is implausible. Second, oral teachings alone couldn’t convey the depth and intricacies of Judaism or Christianity. For example, complex laws in the Torah or the Trinity doctrine in Christianity couldn’t be fully grasped or reinterpreted from hearsay. Plus, the Qur'an often corrects misinterpretations of these traditions, which requires critical engagement, not just surface-level knowledge. Finally, the Qur'an’s unique literary style, theological consistency, and profound impact make it stand apart. If Muhammad had simply copied or borrowed, why does the Qur'an remain distinct in content, addressing issues that earlier scriptures didn’t? Also, the Qur'an challenges skeptics to produce even a single chapter like it (2:23)-a challenge unmet to this day. Claiming "plagiarism" ignores historical context and Muhammad’s (PBUH) lack of resources or training to achieve such a feat. Without evidence of access, mastery of languages, and synthesis skills, this claim doesn’t hold up.
@kaiox7039 this is an AI generated response and moreover muhammed used to travel with his merchant uncle abu talib and visit various places which may or may not have other religions as their prominently followed religion after his uncle's death he worked for and traveled with khadijah bint khuwaylid a businesswoman where she sent him to various places like syria and other countries so there's a very great chance that he had heard about other religions and how they worked and about their gods.
@@clashthesity No it is not an Ai generated response, it's a section of my rebuttal essay I wrote 2 years ago translated into english. Your argument is heavily based on speculations rather then evidance. Your going to have to prove that he engaged in-depth theological discussions, studied scriptures, or stayed long enough to absorb the complexities of Judaism, Christianity, or other faiths. People didn't have social media and the literacy rates was very low among every group of people. You're going to have to prove that Prophet muhammed understood aramic, hebrew and greek inorder to study and speak with rabbis and monks of those religions, and that he stayed long enough to learn it all since those travels only lasted 3-6 days. Let's say that Prophet Muhammed did learn from monks and rabbis, but only through word of mouth. "the Qur'an contains detailed knowledge of religious stories and theological points that go beyond what a traveler might hear in passing. For instance, the Qur'an clarifies certain events in Jewish and Christian traditions that weren’t part of common oral narratives of the time."
INCORRECT TRANSLATION of Surah 5:47 - It says "let the people of the Book/Torah judge what it reveals" ...the Jews. Not the people of the Gospel. As Jesus himself said, 'obey the dictates of who sits in Moses' seat. .. Salvation is of the Jews"
0:48 nah you lying, its says gospel(The injeel) not GOSPELS, the quran confirms that the single book injeel is the word of god but not your 4 gospels. This is the weakest argument you can use yet everyone uses it
@@Zarak-y1q so… he purposely let his message be lost. Doesn’t seem like something a smart god would do. If the injeel was destroyed, then what proof do we have that it was “drastically different” than the gospels? The gospels are eyewitness accounts, not a book that came 600 years later claiming something that was never even thought of.
@@Zarak-y1q so we have no idea what the injeel even said, yet you blindly follow the notion that it was lost and was different. How do we know that it is different from the gospels? “Because my book SAID SO” this is circular reasoning. The Quran invents the injeel out of nowhere to slander Christianity, even though there is no proof that early Christians truly had different ideas that were then lost. Every heresy in Christian history goes against the Bible.
@@Zarak-y1q this is a good argument! I’m really happy that even though I’ve been negative, you’ve been positive. I apologize for being Islamophobic, and I’ll try and present my arguments in a more Christian tone. My “counter” (kind of a cringy term tbh it’s just my opinion on your argument) is that even though scripture was canonized, there was a early centralized teaching, which was found in the 4 gospels. We had many manuscripts of these, leading to them becoming the most popular and authoritative gospels in the community. While the 12 didn’t “know” it to be scripture, Jesus knew what to preach and the disciples knew to spread his message, as he commanded them. The New Testament as a whole is a canon, yes, and these books, as well as being religious accounts, are also historical and hold up. They record meetings and councils between apostles and church members, leading to them being recognized as interconnected and, hence, part of the “canon”. The documents that compile the New Testament have evidence and proof of existence, while the injil (pardon me if I did not say this correctly) was claimed to be destroyed, leaving behind no evidence of its existence. Now, while absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence, I think that to claim its message was true, but was destroyed, seems to be a little bit of circular reasoning. “This happened because my book said so, but no one else did, but it’s true.” (Sorry, it’s a very crude depiction. I don’t want to be rude. I don’t know everything there is about the injil, please enlighten me!😊) While there are some hypothetical documents that the injil could have been, such as the “Q” accounts that mark and Matthew are based off of, if it were to be based off of Q, one would assume that they carry similar if not identical messages. Sorry, this was long. If there’s anything, anything at all you don’t understand, I’ll try my best to respond in a timely manner!
Yep it's part of the plan. I have a long stream with Jonathan McLatchie were we go into it in depth just check the live tab but I'd like to do some short videos on it too.
5:00 The Quran was revealed for all of humanity, not just for Arabs or specific groups. • “And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.” (Quran 21:107) • “This is a clear book, a guidance for the people.” (Quran 3:138)
Y'all are so cute, the Torah and Bible were sent for specific people at a specific time, WAY befofe the quran was sent obviously, then after that the Quran came down, and it was the last book from God which was meant for ALL people forever, in the olden days people edited the Bible and Torah, which were originally similar to the Quran, but since the quran was for all of us, Allah guaranteed that itll be preserved and that no one will ever be able to edit the book..thats why they have many similarities! If some details were wrong tell me
@tomassmith1519 I got this from google: Christianity and Judaism are distorted and the original beliefs of those religions were same as Islam with only their practices being somewhat different
@@georgeorwellsghost3833 i respect christian but god being a human and come to earth to erase the sins ? like what ? god can never be human and he is way above our imagination . ask yourself a question if jesus was god but in human form ? did he go to the toilet ? like can god actually be like that ? cmon man
The Injeel is what was revealed to Jesus by the angel Gabriel who was sent by God. The Bible was written by anonymous humans who apparently may have been eyewitnesses. The Quran is what was revealed to Muhammad by the angel Gabriel who was sent by God. The Hadiths are written by companions of Muhammad. The Hebrew Old Testament does in fact mention Muhammad by name “Muhammad’Im” while referring to a world peacemaker who will come after Jesus. Now, aside from this… Christian’s who have read the Quran, please tell me how u think it was possible for the Quran to contain such scientific and historic information, that was at least 1300 years ahead of its time as modern science and historians begin to discover more and more with technology and new research? I’m talking about things that are not mentioned in the Bible, Torah or any historic text. Not to mention, the accuracy within the Quran in terms of numerical miracles or ‘coincidences’ such as it including the words ‘angel’ and ‘devil’ the same number of times, or it mentioning the words “man” and “woman” both equally 23 times each - and if you double 23, you get 46, which is the same number of chromosomes within the human body (23 from the father and 23 from the mother). Another example of this is the word ‘sea’ mentioned 71 times and the word ‘land’ mentioned 29 times - which coincidentally (or not so coincidentally) shows the modern scientifically approved ratio of land to sea on earth 🌍
I have read many religious text and islam for me is like the most obvious false religion When i read bible and quran i believe maybe bible is right, or both are wrong Quran would never be true Still it is only for me
The bible: how old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26). (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2). and How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8). (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9). and Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24:1) (b) Satan did (1 Chronicles 21:1) ... even contradicting the main purpose of human life in earth (in the bible) like "God won’t punish people for the sins of their fathers: Ezekiel 18:20" yet they've been punished, and even god had to kill "his son" (in the orthodox logic) or "him self" (in the catholic trinity logic) FOR the people because of adam's sin. or even contradicting the entire logic of that religion, like (in the orthodox blief) they say that God the almighty the only one and the creator of every star and the entire universe and every living being and everything, the one who he has no one like him, "had a son" and did not create Jesus (peace and blessings be upon him) and became the biological father of that human with a human (this just shows the ignorance and the fairy tails of mankind imaginations by human's simple knowledge and classic desires) and that makes Jesus according to them a god, wich even contradicts stuff like how can a god eat, drink, sleep, go to the toilet... so its clear if it is not corruption its misinterpretion from translating the bible from hebrew to english like "Son" being a metaphorical son of god or a servant of god //WICH IS DAAY CLEAR IN VERSES LIKE : David and His Descendants (Psalm 2:7) : "I will tell of the decree: The Lord said to me, 'You are my son; today I have begotten you.'" Solomon (2 Samuel 7:14) : "I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son." Isreal (Exodus 4:22) :"Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son.’" Jesus’ Followers (John 1:12) "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." //so is everyone the Children of your God ?? and (in the catholic blief) they say that jesus is the god and the god is the spirit, wich is just throwing everything in the bible upside down, so how can God prostrate to his GOD ("father") ?? like in Luke 22:41-42: (EVEN ON Matthew 26:39 and Mark 14:35) "And he withdrew from them about a stone's throw, and KNELT down and PRAYED, saying, 'Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my WILL, but yours, be done.'" and how did GOD Say that That The god is GREATER than him: John 14:28: "the Father is greater than I" and EVEN CALLING for the God : Matthew 27:46: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, 'Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?' that is, 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?'" So are you gonna be like the stubborn type of human beings or you gonna try finding the truth ? If you are looking for the truth I highly advise you to see videos of "The muslim lantern" or "One dawha foundation" if you want to see debates between muslims and different group of people including christians, and Debunking every funny full of lies or ignorance claims like in this video,
Your whole video is full of claims that you clearly misundertood and you are talking about them with such confidence as if you have studied Islam far more than enough. Be honest with yourself
@@rrusstafari then show us where is this original gospel, you can't claim something without backing it up. Dead sea scrolls exist you know so we know the Books of the Bible were the same before Muhammad even existed
Here's my reply to Farhan Ahmed Zia's joke of a response video isjesusalive.com/farhan-ahmed-zia-clueless-about-islams-biggest-contradiction/
Here’s my reply to your joke of a Christian channel.
And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.
Al-Ma'idah (5:46)
So for their breaking of the covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard. They distort words from their [proper] usages and have forgotten a portion of that of which they were reminded. And you will still observe deceit among them, except a few of them. But pardon them and overlook [their misdeeds]. Indeed, Allah loves the doers of good.
Al-Ma'idah (5:13)
You altering your own New Testament and not believing in the Old Testament disproves your own religion. Jesus wasn’t even Greek. He was a Jew who spoke Hebrew and Aramaic. Maybe you should read your own Old Testament for a change instead of being so insecure about us like you Christians are nowadays.
why r u exposing ur self like that
@@MohammedMuhayminbro so sad
He is disrespecting islam
@@DiegoMyers-i6q they want views
@@rrusstafari yeah 👍
Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind.
Girl ur religion is fooling u youre the blind one
The disbelievers truly aren't ashamed of turning away from the truth.
@@zach7088 brother about what the man said in the video , i want to see if this is right or wrong and please correct me . we believe that the word of allah is right and it is always the truth. but he argues that the bible is the word of allah then it is a contridiction . i say that the bible is right but what we have now is not the bible as some people be inevnting new things and claiming that are the word of allah for their own benefit (you know the dark era of the church in europ and what laes before) but the bible has truth in it as it has the word of allah in it and some might be completely deleted not altered we don't really now .( please forgive my writtin as english is not my first or second language)
Finally, someone who knows the truth and disbelieves in this nonsense
jazakallah khair
The Quran literally copies from other books, claims there corrupt, then they try and choose what stuff is true in a totally “corrupted book”. Literally special pleading
Yeah Islam blatantly steals from the bible.
@@arafatmarius331your taqiyya isn’t going to work here
Seriously, it’s embarrassing. Even one of the Qurans authors has a criminal record of stealing books and plagiarism. “Studies in Early Hadith Literature” by M. M. Azami, pg 128 line 82. Aside from that, the “teachings” can be traced between Arab mythology, the Gospel of Thomas, even Greek medical manuscripts.
yo ive heard christians say that the quran is a book from the supernatural but its the devil's words since it says god is the father of deceiving and the bible calls the devil the father of deception and talked about protoplasm and the big bang 1400 years ago,
@@TheTemplar168 Don't forget the siraat bridge to heaven that they claim is absent in Biblical literature due to scriptural corruption, even though it appeared in the Zoroastrian faith independently.
My brother in Christ, thank you for your contributions to the faith, keep on fighting the good fight. Remember if they hate you, they hated Him first.
I respect your faith but some of the citation was shorted and mispronounced and made a wrong meaning.
@@md.abdullaalwailykhanchowd3974 can you elaborate with evidence?
Tell me how the …. The bible can be Gods words, when some ordinary people write it in a span of 1 Thousand years
When Jesus is „God“ or his Son or whatsoever, how did he die? Isn’t he Allmighty?
And Yeah the Quran is the Update of Jesuss Rules, how can it be not true, When there are PROVINGS of the changing of the Bible.
Anwar shaghel mokhak 1:07 Reather trust that God has sent down revelations and people have corrupted them.
1:14 that’s not a verse. It’s actually “.. as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel previously, as a guide for people..” (PREVIOUSLY)
1:20 they had already been corrupted was before Prophet Muhammad was even born, but it was what they had left of their revelations
1:27 👎 Gospel not Gospels and we have to believe in the original Gospel and Torah that were revealed to the Prophets Isa (“Jesus” even though there isn’t even a J in Aramaic) and Moses
1:51 GOD is telling us what he revealed to the people of the Gospel (before the Quran was revealed) They are required to adhere to their book and are not permitted to deviate from it.
2:03 How about reading the verse before it or understanding context?
2:05 “..you are standing on nothing..”: from religious matters “..until you uphold the Torah and the Gospel..”:By believing in books that were sent to the Prophets among them is the command to follow Muhammad,faith in his message,and imitation of his laws. “..and ‘uphold’ what has been revealed to you from your Lord..”:The Holy Quran💗 2:24 Only showing half of the verse to mislead ppl.Complete it “.. And your Lord’s revelation to you ˹O Prophet˺ will only cause many of them to increase in wickedness and disbelief. So do not grieve for the people who disbelieve” it’s obviously talking about the Quran
2:36 they have with the testimony of both Christian scholars and Jewish
3:10 go look up “ahmed deedat bible muhammad mentioned by rational believer”
3:27 they weren’t but there is somewhat of what GOD has revealed in it even though we know it’s been corrupted
3:31 and the Torah has been around before it
3:39 ‘Words’ are the Quran, there is no change to it, and slanderers cannot add to it or subtract from it
3:50 According to literal Christian’s the “Gospels” “the Bible” are not GOD’S words but they are divinely inspired ,unlike the Quran which is verbatim THE WORD OF GOD❤️
4:05 again ‘Words’ is the Quran
4:15 It doesn’t
Now go make sadaqa with the money u just spent
@@mivyvee2997Your god wondered if he can have a child without a consort.
Without lies, Islam dies.
Nope Quran was revealed to Muhammad he was illiterate and cannot read also it was 6th century not 7th century
Ay now thats a good slogan
Allah is not a God! Islam is not a religion!
an insult for an insult it is
Because of Lying Christianity is Dying
Even with Lying Christianity is Dying
-6000 years old earth community
The way you take the Ayat out of their context is amazing!
what i was thinking
the way you didnt put it in context
cope
@@nicnsugar ragebait used to be believable
exactly haha, Surah Al Maidah 12-13, 'Allah made a covenant with the Children of Israel and appointed twelve leaders from among them... they distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold.' God is not referring to the modern Christian/Hebrew scripture Christians read at the moment when he says abide by the Gospel and the Torah; he is referring to what they were millenia ago!
You have no idea how many times I’ve destroyed Muslim arguments with this bit of knowledge. They still try and weasel their way out to keep slamming their head into the wall. Oh, and the whole the “Quran has been preserved” thing is false. There is over 30 versions and variations today with over 95,000 differences. Even the original Quran was split into 7 different editions to allow different Arabic dialects to read. Except they forgot to make sure that all the verses were exactly the same. Cause they weren’t, as can be shown today.
@@TheTemplar168 don’t forget how in their authentic hadiths it records how many years after Muhammad’s death there was so many different Qurans that were so contradictory from eachother a uthman commanded to get all those Qurans and burn everything then make a brand new standard version and then somehow that standard Arabic version later turned into several Arabic versions, the Quran historically legit can’t be trusted that it was preserved
@@Faithexplorer4376again, you try and twist your verses in favor of you. Not what they flat out say. And I ask again: where is the proof of the Injil’s existence? You can make all these claims if you like, but they won’t stand or be counted as valid without the proof to back it up. Give us the evidence that there was a different Gospel than what we have. Just because “something makes sense” doesn’t suddenly make it correct or truthful.
@@Faithexplorer4376and actually Testify has already done a video on this subject, the geographical debate.
It’s not even just the variants.. because remember, there are variants in the Bible manuscripts we have. One has to think of how many witnesses we have of the Bible (the amount of manuscripts as well as quotations and references used by people), as compared to the Quran is HUGE. We have the Samaritan Pentateuch, we have the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint, the Alexandrian manuscript, etc. thus we are able to see if the substance of the Bible has actually changed. No it hasn’t. Things might be worded differently here and there, but it is the same meaning. That’s what happens when you translate one thing to another in a different language. Looking at the Quran, how many early manuscripts and copies do we have of it? We do not even have the pre-Uthman Quran.. and let’s not also forget that 25% of the Quran is said to be completely unintelligible and essentially untranslatable (thus they are called “the dark passages”). That is not good.. but yet this is often overlooked.
There are also things which can easily be pointed out as being an error in the Quran.. like “the Samaritan” referenced as being the rebellious follower of Moses who created the golden calf. Samaritans weren’t even around at that time
@@shayalynnvery well said. Just crazy how anyone can even try to defend such a contradictory and historically inaccurate book
Ahh yes a book about a guy from long ago talking about jesus hundreds of years later by a man who didn't know anything about the old testament very trustworthy....
Don’t forget he couldn’t even read
@@TheTemplar168 yeah the book just fell from heaven or he just learned it from over 20 years in the desert without forgetting it…
@@McShawtieDoggoit defies the very definition of “miracle”, as Testify has demonstrated in his miracles series. I don’t see how a book defies the laws of nature or physics.
@@TomAdo-ot4ci Comment 1: "Ahh yes a book about a guy from long ago talking about Jesus hundreds of years later by a man who didn't know anything about the Old Testament very trustworthy...."
Counterargument:
Historical Accuracy:
The Quran is believed by Muslims to be the word of God revealed to Prophet Muhammad, who is seen as the final prophet in a long line of prophets, including those from the Old and New Testaments. While Prophet Muhammad himself did not study the Old Testament, his revelations in the Quran contain detailed knowledge of biblical stories and figures, which Muslims believe were divinely revealed.
Divine Revelation:
The Quran is considered a divine revelation, not a historical account written from human knowledge. This belief asserts that the information in the Quran is directly from God, who has complete knowledge of all past events, including those in the Old Testament. This makes the Quran a trustworthy source for Muslims.
Consistency with Previous Scriptures:
The Quran acknowledges previous scriptures (the Torah and the Gospel) and affirms their original messages, though it asserts that these texts have been altered over time. This perspective is not unique to Islam but is a foundational aspect of the faith, emphasizing continuity and completion of God's message through Prophet Muhammad.
Comment 2: "Don't forget he couldn't even read"
Counterargument:
Miracle of Revelation:
The fact that Prophet Muhammad was illiterate (unlettered) is actually a significant point in Islam, reinforcing the miraculous nature of the Quran. Muslims believe that an unlettered man bringing forth such a profound and complex text, filled with deep knowledge and wisdom, is a testament to its divine origin.
Oral Tradition:
During Muhammad’s time, oral tradition was a primary mode of preserving knowledge. His illiteracy did not hinder him from receiving, memorizing, and conveying the revelations. His followers meticulously memorized and later transcribed these revelations, ensuring their preservation.
Comment 3: "yeah the book just fell from heaven or he just learned it from over 20 years in the desert without forgetting it..."
Counterargument:
Process of Revelation:
The Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad over a period of 23 years through the angel Gabriel. This gradual revelation allowed for the message to be internalized and memorized by the Prophet and his followers. The process ensured the text was preserved accurately and disseminated effectively among early Muslims.
Role of Companions:
Muhammad’s companions played a crucial role in memorizing and writing down the Quranic verses as they were revealed. The preservation of the Quran involved a community effort, with many individuals memorizing the entire text, which safeguarded it against alterations.
Comment 4: "it defies the very definition of 'miracle', as Testify has demonstrated in his miracles series. I don't see how a book defies the laws of nature or physics."
Counterargument:
Definition of Miracle:
In Islamic theology, a miracle (mu'jiza) is an extraordinary event that surpasses human capability and understanding, attributed to divine intervention. The Quran, with its unparalleled linguistic beauty, profound wisdom, and consistency, is considered a literary and spiritual miracle.
Linguistic Miracle:
The Quran’s linguistic style, depth, and structure are viewed as miraculous, especially considering the Prophet’s illiteracy. The challenge posed in the Quran for anyone to produce a chapter like it has stood unmet for over 1,400 years, highlighting its unique nature.
Impact on Society:
The transformative effect of the Quran on individuals and society, its guidance on all aspects of life, and its consistency and preservation through centuries, all contribute to its status as a miracle in Islam. Its ability to provide moral and spiritual guidance across generations and cultures further underscores its miraculous nature.
Conclusion
In summary, these counterarguments highlight the Islamic perspective on the divine origin and preservation of the Quran, the significance of Prophet Muhammad’s illiteracy in reinforcing the miraculous nature of the Quran, and the broader understanding of miracles in Islam. This approach aims to clarify misconceptions and provide a respectful and informed response to the comments
a yes, the book that says God Ordered Isaiah to walk n@ked for 3 years
very trust worthy...
also that "Guy" fixed the Bible Issues like Joseph speaking to Pharaoh in the Bible
while the Quran says "King"
it's a fact
you can either
A) Just deny the Quran and Islam in peace
B) Stay in a dilemma of fighting for your faith even thought you see alot of Christians are becoming athiests and Muslims
C) Keep arguing and mocking until God blinds your heart from the Quran like these hate "apologetics"
Great point. If Allah is so adamant about preserving his word, how did he drop the ball so badly and allow the Torah and Gospel to be corrupted so badly that he had to send Muhammad to clarify the message.? And if he couldn't stop his revelation from being corrupted before, why should anyone believe that he could prevent the same thing from happening again, especially when the Surah that you quoted stated that people were already doing it during Muhammad's time? Allah and his sinless, perfect prophets need to do better. The Quran is self-refuting nonsense. A comedy of errors.
@@Just_a_Reflection because people are corrupt and imperfect. God lets the people to corrupt the books but will be p*nished in the here after like everybody else who wronged
Ok, since when did god promise to preserve the torah and bible (or injil as we might say) ?
Because god did not make a promise that he will preserve those books then why can't it be corrupted?
@@rasyagi4570he did so when he said that his words can’t be corrupted, then went on to claim the Gospel and Torah as his words. Because he claimed them as his, either his word is corruptible, or it isn’t. Which means the Quran is also exposed to this should the answer be that his word is corruptible. But if it’s not, then the Gospel and Torah can’t according to the Quran. See the catch 22?
@@TheTemplar168 bring one verse from the quran, i've watched the whole vid already.
The verse in the vid is reffering to the Quran
@@Just_a_Reflection
Chapter 2 verse 106 in Quran
Ok I’m about to debunk this entire video:
The claim that the Quran endorses today’s Gospel in its entirety and creates contradictions by doing so is based on a misunderstanding of the Quran’s teachings, the historical context of its revelation, and how Islam views earlier scriptures. The Quran indeed acknowledges that Allah revealed guidance to the prophets before Muhammad, including Moses, David, and Jesus (peace be upon them). It respects the Torah and the Gospel as they were originally revealed but makes it clear that these messages have since been altered by human hands. The Quran warns, “Woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, ‘This is from Allah,’ in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they earn” (Quran 2:79). This verse shows that Islam believes in the original revelations but also acknowledges that people have tampered with their contents over time. This concept is not unique to Islam; even biblical sources and scholars have recognized that changes occurred within the biblical texts.
For instance, Jeremiah 8:8 in the Bible itself questions the accuracy of the Torah’s transmission: “How can you say, ‘We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord,’ when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?” This verse implies that even within the Bible’s tradition, there was an understanding that human scribes had altered or corrupted the original messages. Further evidence of this comes from New Testament scholars who have noted numerous variations across thousands of early manuscripts. Dr. Bart Ehrman, a well-known scholar of textual criticism, has documented that the New Testament manuscripts contain tens of thousands of variations, which arose due to scribal changes, intentional edits, and errors over centuries. This aligns with the Quranic position that earlier scriptures experienced human interference, which Islam believes ultimately warranted the final revelation of the Quran as a complete and preserved guide for humanity.
When the Quran instructs Christians in 5:47 to “judge by what Allah has revealed therein,” it does not mean to endorse everything in the current Gospels word-for-word but rather calls Christians to seek out the essence of monotheism and the moral teachings originally revealed. This guidance is consistent with the Quran’s message that God’s revelations throughout history carried similar moral truths and monotheistic principles. The Quran praises past scriptures where they align with the true message of God but also corrects deviations. For instance, the Quran affirms Jesus’s role as a prophet and messenger of God, but it denies his divinity, a doctrine developed later by church councils rather than by Jesus himself. This view is actually supported by Jesus’s words in the Bible itself, where in Mark 12:29 he declares, “The Lord our God, the Lord is one,” upholding the same message of monotheism that the Quran emphasizes. If we are to take Jesus’s words directly, rather than later church interpretations, we find alignment rather than contradiction with the Quran.
Another point raised in the video is the idea that the Quran promises the Gospel and Torah are preserved because “no one can alter God’s words.” The Quran indeed states in 6:115, “And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.” But this verse refers to God’s ultimate decree and truth, not necessarily to the specific texts held by various communities. In fact, the Quran distinguishes between Allah’s eternal message and the physical documents that humans handled, which could be and have been altered by human hands. The Quran’s statement about preservation is applied most specifically to itself as the final revelation, as it claims in 15:9: “Indeed, it is We who sent down the Quran and indeed, We will be its guardian.” Muslims believe that while previous scriptures were intended for specific communities and times, the Quran is meant for all of humanity and has been divinely protected from the errors that affected previous texts.
The Quran’s stance on the original Torah and Gospel is essentially this: they contained true revelations from God, but later generations allowed human changes to creep into their texts. Historically, this position is not only understandable but also well-supported. Early Christian history reveals that the four Gospels now found in the New Testament were not the only accounts of Jesus’s life and teachings. There were many gospels circulating in the early centuries, each with differing accounts. The canonization process, which determined the “official” books of the New Testament, involved significant debate and was only settled centuries after Jesus. The Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, for example, debated the nature of Jesus’s divinity and formalized doctrines not directly found in the earliest manuscripts. If Christianity’s own history acknowledges doctrinal development and textual selection, then it is reasonable to consider that certain aspects of the Gospel may have been shaped by human influence rather than preserved as a purely divine revelation.
Regarding the Quran’s mention of Muhammad being foretold in the Torah and Gospel, the Quran speaks of earlier scriptures containing references to a prophet who would follow Jesus. In 7:157, the Quran states, “Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel… it is they who will be successful.” Muslims believe that certain biblical references indirectly point to the coming of a future prophet. For example, in Deuteronomy 18:18, God says to Moses, “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.” Muslims interpret “a prophet like you” as a reference to Muhammad, due to similarities between Moses’s and Muhammad’s lives, such as their roles as lawgivers and leaders of a community. Additionally, in John 14:16, Jesus promises the coming of the “Paraclete” or “Advocate.” While Christian tradition interprets this as the Holy Spirit, some Muslim scholars argue that it aligns with the description of Muhammad as a “comforter” and “advocate” for monotheism. While these interpretations may not be universally accepted, they provide a reasonable basis for Muslims to see Muhammad’s prophecy as aligned with the biblical tradition.
As for the claim that the Quran acknowledges Jesus’s followers would remain “superior” until the Day of Judgment, as mentioned in 3:55, it does not imply that the Quran supports all doctrines associated with later Christian groups. Rather, it means that those who follow Jesus’s true message-submission to God, worshiping Him alone-will ultimately prevail. The Quran critiques later theological developments like the Trinity and the deification of Jesus as deviations from his original teachings. Thus, the Quran’s assertion of success applies to those who adhere to Jesus’s teachings of monotheism, as opposed to the doctrinal interpretations that developed later. This is further backed by historical evidence that early Jewish-Christian groups, like the Ebionites, also viewed Jesus as a prophet, not divine, and adhered closely to monotheism, aligning with the Quran’s portrayal of Jesus’s mission.
To address the final claim that the Quran would contradict itself if it implies the Bible was corrupted but still tells Christians to refer to it, it’s important to understand that the Quran often addresses specific communities and situations. When the Quran instructs the “People of the Book” to look to their own scriptures, it is encouraging them to find the original monotheistic message and moral guidance that aligns with Islam. The Quran acknowledges that remnants of truth remain within these texts even if alterations exist. This is why 5:48 emphasizes the Quran as a “guardian over” previous scriptures, preserving their core message while correcting deviations. Just as a historian can critically examine texts with known edits and still extract truths, the Quran encourages Christians and Jews to seek the foundational truths in their own scriptures while inviting them to see the Quran as the final, unaltered confirmation of God’s message.
The Quran’s position is therefore not contradictory. It respects the original revelations, recognizes the human alterations they underwent, and asserts itself as the final, preserved guidance. This aligns with historical evidence of biblical alterations, doctrinal debates, and the evolving nature of early Christianity. If we apply this understanding, we see that the Quran’s acknowledgment of the Torah and Gospel as originally divine does not mean it endorses every aspect of today’s versions. Instead, it serves as a reminder of God’s consistent call to monotheism, morality, and guidance across ages, culminating in the Quran’s final, safeguarded revelation. This continuity, rather than contradiction, forms the foundation of the Quran’s message.
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@@TheLifeConqueror Seriously, well done brother, May Allah grant every Muslim Jannah
Jesus is king and the truth! Please repent before it is too late!
@@bobncpenguin No brother, Islam is the truth. Allah is the lord, king, most merciful, and one and only true God. There is none like him. He has no children, parents, or partners. It is you who must repent and ask Allah for forgiveness before it is too late. Because according to the Quran, whoever believes in Allah, his prophets, and his oneness will enter paradise. May Allah bless you and guide you to the right path. If you have any comments, questions, problems, or concerns about Islam please let me know and I’d be happy to answer. I can answer any question you have about Islam and Christianity because I’ve studied and understood both of them hard and even converted several Christians to Islam. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and the #1 religion with the most converts. Again, please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. May Allah bless you and everyone else! ❤️
@@TheLifeConqueror thank you SO much this should be read by everyone who watched this
Some of my thoughts/questions.
Muslims often claim/say your Gospel was lost or corrupted.
But is it not (from their worldview) Allah's Gospel?
From what I have read, the Quran claims the Gospel was preserved & present at the time of Muhammad.
Then why don't Muslims take responsibility for retaining the Gospel.
The Gospel is supposed to prove Muhammad is a Prophet.
It seems common sense they would keep copies of the Gospel/Injeel to show the evidence for Muhammad.
And I mean from Muhammad's time forward.
That’s exactly the problem. They don’t have proof of an “original” Gospel, which leaves the ones we have as the only valid ties to what the Quran claims. Then there is the issue of the Bible and Quran contradicting each other on many subjects: was Jesus God or not, how to get to Heaven, even some of the events of history like Abraham putting up Isaac or Ishmael. So the Quran can’t be a continuation of the Bible. And there’s the point of the whole video, where it shows how the Quran ends up false any way you slice it. Either the Bible is true and the Quran is false, or the Bible is false, in which case the Quran is wrong to claim it as there is no proof of any “original” Gospel to bail it out
They can’t tell you what the injeel is, so it’s hard to answer you unless you speak to a Muslim directly. As their theology is just head canon, there’s no standardization or reason. Erik is even making an assumption that injeel is gospel, as they claim the true gospel was given to “Isa son of Myriam” then was corrupted. But that begs the question, where is the original injeel? If they claim it is the gospels then you run into Erik’s refutation. If they sense that coming they will claim we don’t know and the gospels were all made up. So then you need the historicity argument which they deny vehemently. I’ve also been told the injeel is the gospel of John alone, which doesn’t work for so many reasons 😂 hope I helped but to answer you, they don’t even know so don’t worry if you’re confused. You should be, God is not the author of confusion or the Quran.
@jacobfavret1729 I get all that. My point is the Muslims put the onus on Christians. When the onus and responsibility is really on the Muslims to have kept and preserved the Injeel/Gospel....(in truth iNGEL is just short for evaNGELion...aka "NGEL"
But to me, it amazes me that Muslims get off scott free from not preserving "Muslim" scriptures.
As they claim Jesus was a muslim.
@@Uncommonvirtue777 Argument 1: "They don't have proof of an 'original' Gospel, which leaves the ones we have as the only valid ties to what the Quran claims."
Counterargument:
Islamic Perspective on Previous Scriptures:
Islam teaches that the original revelations given to previous prophets, including the Gospel (Injil) given to Jesus, were true and from God. However, these scriptures were altered over time. The absence of the original texts does not invalidate the claim; it aligns with the Quran's assertion of textual corruption.
Historical Context:
Historical and textual criticism of the Bible indicates numerous alterations and inconsistencies. The Quran's claim of alteration finds some support in these scholarly findings. Therefore, the Quran's position is not inherently baseless but is rooted in historical and textual analysis.
Argument 2: "The Bible and Quran contradict each other on many subjects: was Jesus God or not, how to get to Heaven, even some of the events of history like Abraham putting up Isaac or Ishmael. So the Quran can't be a continuation of the Bible."
Counterargument:
Clarification and Correction:
From the Islamic viewpoint, the Quran was sent to clarify and correct the alterations in previous scriptures. The Quran provides what Muslims believe is the correct understanding of theological concepts and historical events.
Different Covenants:
Islam sees itself not as a contradiction but as the final and complete revelation, building upon and correcting past messages. The differences in theological points, such as the nature of Jesus, are seen as clarifications rather than contradictions.
Argument 3: "There is no proof of any 'original' Gospel to bail it out. They can't tell you what the Injil is."
Counterargument:
Concept of Divine Revelation:
The Quran's assertion is that the Injil was the revelation given to Jesus, distinct from the gospels written later. Muslims are not required to provide a physical copy of the original Injil to validate their beliefs, as the Quran itself is considered the final and preserved word of God.
Reliance on Revelation:
Muslims believe that God’s revelation through the Quran is sufficient proof of the original messages. The Quran reiterates and reaffirms the core messages of earlier prophets, which is seen as evidence of their continuity.
Argument 4: "Muslims put the onus on Christians. When the onus and responsibility is really on the Muslims to have kept and preserved the Injil/Gospel."
Counterargument:
Historical Context:
According to Islamic teachings, the preservation of previous scriptures was the responsibility of the communities to whom they were given. The Quran was revealed to be the final and protected scripture, and its preservation was ensured through meticulous oral and written traditions.
Role of the Quran:
The Quran serves as the final and complete guidance, superseding previous scriptures. Therefore, the preservation of the Quran takes precedence, and the belief is that it encompasses the true essence of all previous revelations.
Argument 5: "Jesus was a Muslim. Muslims should have preserved 'Muslim' scriptures."
Counterargument:
Definition of 'Muslim':
In Islamic terminology, a 'Muslim' is someone who submits to the will of God. Therefore, all prophets, including Jesus, are considered 'Muslims' in this sense. This does not mean that the community of Prophet Muhammad was responsible for preserving previous scriptures.
Role of Successive Revelations:
Each prophet's community was responsible for their own scriptures until the final revelation (the Quran) was given to Prophet Muhammad. The Quran's role is to act as the definitive guide, encompassing and confirming previous revelations.
Argument 6: "The Quran ends up false any way you slice it. Either the Bible is true and the Quran is false, or the Bible is false, in which case the Quran is wrong to claim it."
Counterargument:
Correction, Not Contradiction:
The Islamic perspective is that the Quran corrects and finalizes the previous revelations. The assertion is that the Bible contains elements of truth but has been altered. Thus, the Quran can be true even if parts of the Bible are not, as it aims to restore the original message.
Scriptural Integrity:
The preservation of the Quran, supported by historical evidence of consistent manuscripts and widespread memorization, strengthens the claim of its authenticity and divine origin. This preservation is seen as fulfilling the promise that the final revelation would be protected from alteration.
Conclusion
In summary, the Islamic perspective on the Injil and the Quran's relationship with previous scriptures is nuanced and deeply rooted in theological and historical contexts. The arguments presented by critics often misunderstand or misrepresent these beliefs. By clarifying the role of the Quran as a final and corrective revelation, the consistency of its preservation, and the broader theological framework, a more accurate understanding of the Islamic position can be provided.
the gospel was NOT preserved at the time of mohammed, it was already corrupted.
plus, why preserve something old, when god gave us his words again. we should preserve the quran because it's essentially god's last words
1:15 Surah 3:3-4: "He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel." You can not write whatever you want to if you directly refer to the verse. And your argument is really something that is meaningless in İslam. Of course Muslims believes Torah and Gospel is sent by God. You cannot become Muslim if you reject them. But that Torah and Gospel is the original ones that is sent to respective prophets directly. It is known that Bible is changed based on who wrote it. If you change even one letter from the God's words how can you claim that the book is from God? Original Torah and Gospels are the words of God which you do not have in this day and age. The ones that has written by the people later on is not the words of God, so they are the corrupted books and different from the original ones. I cannot believe how can one not understand this. Bible is in your hands and houses is not the gospels mentioned here.
@@kozmiklegen omg so true they are celebrating their ignorance 😂
No one can corrupt God's word right?
@@frajsk803 you are referring to 6:115. "And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change His Words. And He is the AllHearer, the AllKnower." If you cut it in half you are changing everything. In the beginning it is said "the word of your lord has been fullfilled" How it is fullfilled? with Quran. The word that cannot be corrupted here is the Quran. So yes, no one can change and did not change the word of God, Quran. We still read the same Quran. It is not corrupted and it includes the same message sent before it. Since Quran - the final word of god remains the same and in the end the world still has the same message available, don't you think this surah remains true?
@@kozmiklegen mashallah brother they only cherry pick verses without context
@@frajsk803 cherry picking verses is not gonna debunk anything until you tell me who wrote the bible and why Christianity only started after 400 years after fake Jesus death
I once had a conversation with a Muslim friend of mine, and I share with her some of this points about the inconsistency of Islam.
She replied to me that when the Quran talks about the facts that Jews and Christians need to obey their Scriptures, the text is not referring to the ones alive in Mohammed's days but to those alive when the Scriptures were not corrupt yet, and when the Quran says that nobody can change God's word, it's referring specifically to the Quran and to no other book, or it refers to the fact that God's will is undefeated.
How can I efficiently answer such claims?
You could ask her to prove that the key dogmas in both the Old and New Testaments are corrupted (such as, God being a Father, Priestly hierarchy, etc.)?
There's over 20 verses in Quran confirming the scriptures in our *_possession_* in 7th century. If she doubts it, show her 5.43 Tafsir of Ibn Kathir. Mohamad is literally holding a COPY of the Torah in the 7th century and swearing by it, even though he never read it.
5.41-44 Tafsir Ibn Kathir
They arranged a pillow for the Messenger of Allah and he sat on it and said,
«ائْتُونِي بِالتَّوْرَاة»
(Bring the Tawrah to me.) He was brought the Tawrah and he removed the pillow from under him and *placed the Tawrah on it,* ✋📕✋ saying,
«آمَنْتُ بِكِ وَبِمَنْ أَنْزَلَك»
*(I trust YOU* and He Who revealed it to you.) 👉📕
Same story in Hadith, in case she doubts the Tafsir.
Sunan Abi Dawud 4449
They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: *Bring the Torah. It was then **_brought._* He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: *I believed in **_thee_* and in Him Who revealed thee.
Grade: Hasan
Here's the context of "none can change God's words"
6.114
Allah gave you the Quran and to those whom Allah gave [the prior scriptures] they know it [the Quran] is the truth
6.115
The words [in the prior scriptures] have been fulfilled [about the Quran and Mohamad].
*None can change His words*
Q: *_WHY_* do they know the Quran is true?
A: *_BECAUSE_* none can change his words. Therefore they will find it written in their books.
So actually "None Can Change His Words" is the REASON they KNOW that Quran is the "truth" because they can READ IT *_in their books_* because they're unchanged.
But this has not been effective for me in the past, they don't accept interpretation of a Christian, only the words of Mohamad so better to just stick to giving them Mohamad's words.
the verse telling christians and jews to follow their scriptures says "YOU people of the scripture" which means mohammad is saying this TO the christians and jews in the present, not ABOUT the two groups from the past
second, if the verse about changing allahs words said no one can change "the book" (which in the quran normally refers to itself) or "his word" id give them that one, but it says wordS, plural
which means its not referring to the quran specifically because that would imply his other revelations are not actually his revelations, which would be a contradiction
If your religion references another book your done
the bible refrencing (Quoting) the Apocryphal book of Enoch:
woah woah woah don’t talk about the bible like that
@@uppin_downers
he forgot the Gospel refrences the Torah/Old Testament 24/7
@@ahmed_hamoda9783 it doesn't just reference, rather it's connected, we don't say the old testament was corrupted, but rather fulfilled in the New Testament. Islam however references these books and call them corrupted.
And our books are made up of different other books, connecting with each one, and prophets reference the birth of Christ from the very beginning. Through the generational names that God provided to the fulfillment of those prophecies and God's law by Jesus. They still reference one another up to Revelations.
@@FollowChristbro
the reason the books are called corrupted is because the people corrupted them
(Rabbi's etc. , even during Jesus' time Scribes changed the Torah imagine what happened after Jesus (pbuh))
even Bible Scholars agree to that statement no? the transmission of the manuscripts alone has a significant impact
Scrolls found in caves without diaritics that some Rabbi's have to change the words for the diacritics to make sense to the sentance?
another thing... why was the 4 Gospels picked off the 50 Gospels?
Gnostic and Infancy?
Jewish-Christian gospels?
is it because the 4 mention the Crucifixion?
did you know that because of these same prophecies the Jews reject Jesus as he didn't do anything (like free the people from Romans for example) except Miracles and you claim he died?
do you have a passage that say "The Messiah shall die for the people"?
key word "Messiah/Anoited One"
Many commenters keep commenting that Jesus’ gospel is wrong. I’m genuinely curious as to how the gospel was distorted. Please let me here you out my brothers. I am very very skeptical of Islam.
That’s just it: there was no Gospel of Jesus. At least there is no proof of it existing. The Muslims keep claiming that there was an “original” given to Jesus and our Gospels are wrong and corrupt teachings, but without proof of this “original”, their claim becomes an excuse. Therefore, the only conclusion is that the Quran affirms the Gospel(s) in the Bible, and therefore condemns itself.
@zadasaida there are at least 7 different qurans, so wich ones the intact one
@zadasaida the bible do have multiple version, actually plenty, but the bible isn t God written book, it is hand made, quran supposedly isn't, but their is multiple versions, not translation, the quran isn t a monoblock, and even in one quran multiple interpretation exist, of a book supposedly so clear that everyone is supposed to agree on it , wich isn t the case
@zadasaida there are multiple version, not juste translation, and it have been altered. After Muhammad death there were so many version that they had to burn theim and make a normal one, wich isn t the first and so on. The quran isn t intact either, and thinking otherwise is delusional, there are no proof of significant alterations in the new testament too. We can make the naive blank statements too, and say that yours corrupt, it is not an argument. I ll stop talking to you your brainwashed
@@arandomguy4800 What version? are you sure you read Quran or simply read arabic version of Hansel and Gretel?
Muhammads mainly only had contacts with heretical forms of Christianity with strange views on Christology. That's why, Quran has misguided assumptions about Christianity and Christian texts.
So u admit that the New Testament is not the real Christianity but western made one 😂😂😂
His major source of information on Jesus is the gospel of Mary Magdalene. That's where he got the whole talking in the crib thing. Which as we now know is a gnostic gospel
@moosa86 no. In the koran the trinity isn't properly explained and it's said that Christian view the mother mary as part of it. Muhammad didn't know what most Christians actually believed, only a small group of Arabian heretics
@user-gc6wd7dm4w does Jesus talk in the crib in Qur'an or not? Which book had this information before Qur'an? It was the gospel of Mary Magdalene. Very clearly, the source of information for the Qur'an is this gnostic gospel. Which is a modern forgery. We know that now
@@moosa86 Jesus is God in new testament, but in Qur'an, he's not. Qur'an also gets the Trinity wrong than new testament, even if it was trying to condemn it. It also denies the crucifixion unlike the new testament as well as History itself. It also for some strange reason thinks that Jews think Ezra to be the son of God, if it had said that about Ezekiel, i could maybe understand. Mohammad's only source of information are gnostic gospels, so he makes them to be his authority over the Christians and pretends to be Allah's prophet to illiterate Arabs, most had no means of doing research on Christianity themselves.
Inshallah, Muslims will finally wake up and repent.. it's not the eyes that are blind but the hearts.. 🙏🙏
Just like Muhammad when he ignored the blind man because of the rich man lol
Insh yahweh
@@Giorgi755 my friend u are going too far just get quiet and follow ur religion blindly
U will see in the day of judgement just enjoy ur life
@@RobinaRiyaz-jv3gn I'm not following my religion blindly.. I have many evidences.. Muhammad force the 7th century people to follow his religion blindly lol you busted yourself
@@Giorgi755 I. Busted yeah right mohammad did not forc3 the people of taaif
He did not force Christian pastors
He did not force heracles
He did force Persians
But Persians started war against the muslim
He did not force king of Yemen
How can say when u don't read the book as evidence proving wrong
NIV Galatians 1:8 “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!”
Exactly 💯 that verse alone should tell you the truth. Paul and everyone who wrote the Bible in their own way was preaching a gospel other than the one Jesus came to people with. Notice he says another Gospel not another book!
So Jesus knew the Gospel will be corrupted and he warned you to follow who preaches another one. Yet you do!!
And when God sent to you another book to save you, you called his prophet a liar and ended up believing in the belief of those who got under God's curse exactly like the verse you just used. May God guide you to his true path
@naturalbeauty139 umm Galatians was written by Paul, who had a vision of Jesus and taught the same message as Jesus.
@@naturalbeauty139 só Muhammad is the same of paul hahaha
@@itsRyanSlasher an angel came to Muhammad, a demon/fallen angel
@@naturalbeauty139 im sorry but this isnt how the Gospel works in the Bible . First and foremost when Paul saw Jesus and was told to go meet the disciples, Jesus also came to Peter and confirmed to him Paul was coming. Thus he became another apostle through Christ. Mohammed was not confirmed and in fact was laughed at for his openly out of place and false ideologies that he was trying to bring, when he went to the jews with the same thing they laughed at him as well. If anything the quran directly contradicts Jesus own teachings.
Also, you make the comment “another gospel not another book” the gospel is “the good news” from Jesus Christ, the Quran is a separate “gospel” in this sense because “Allah” is revealing himself through Mohammed and the quran
I would also like to point out that this curse you mention, the gospel of Jesus Christ being spread through the world has changed it for the better, freedoms, democracy, love, peace and prosperity. The places the gospel is widely accepted are always economic centers of the world, yet the middle east(where being a christian and owning a bible can get you killed)islam has virtually stayed the same for 1500 years with slavery and oppression? Please tell me again which one seems cursed
Just one more upcoming video on the topic and Lord willing I am moving on from Islam for now
Keep on going Testify! You’re doing great! Also the Islamic argument that the Quran was perfectly preserved is false. There’s over 30 different variations and editions with over 95,000 differences between them. Even the original 7 editions have entire sentences changed between them and therefore context
Yes ur videos are so awesome :)
I agree with daniel that the qiraat would be good to cover (the warsh and the hafs would be easy things to compare in a short video).
I am currently writing a book on all the errors in the Quran and haddiths (its long). Another thing to consider covering as you seem to be covering logical contradictions within Islam would be the idea of tawhid (the oneness of God) and his names contradicting. God's most popular names all require other things to exist yet his names and their attributes (supposedly the only way we can know allah) are eternal. So the 99 attributes are supposed to be eternal and always exist yet his most popular names are:
Ar-rahmaan - compassionate one
Ar-raheem - bestower of mercy
Al-wadood - the loving one
how can you be loving, compassionate, or merciful if there is no object of your love, mercy, or compassion? The names have a bunch of issues like this and could be short.
another short contradiction would be the Quran committing shirk by claiming to be eternal. Ascribing any divine attributes to anything is the worst sin. But the Quran says it is eternal written on golden tablets in heaven. This makes the Quran (the word of allah) co-eternal with allah and thus commits shirk. That or it makes a second part of the godhead in Islam which would destroy tawhid. Fun stuff.
Idk what the last video you wanted to do was but here are 3 quick and easy ideas which every Christian and every Muslim should know.
@@TheTemplar168 Tell me one of the diffrences between "Qurans".
@@KuzeyAkkaya-sb2nksure! These verses come from the Hafs version and then the Warsh version respectively.
2:132 “And Ibrahim enjoined on his sons…”
“And Ibrahim instructed/made his sons…”
2:58 “…we give mercy…”
“…he gives mercy…”
2:9 “…they deceive…”
“…they seek to deceive…”
As you can see, the verses are changed so that their meaning is completely different from one another. Granted the first one is more of a synonym change, but was meant to demonstrate different word use between them.
If Islam is correct, Jesus is both the second best prophet of all time AND he was such a bad prophet that he led his followers from Judaism to polytheism.
@@Faithexplorer4376 except it refutes what the quran said about blessing the teachings of the followers of jesus
its because according to sahih muslim 6666 christians take on the sins of muslims so muslims can go to heaven, allah started christianity to create a population of sacrificial lambs
@@Faithexplorer4376 I'm sorry, if you're merely a prophet of God, and your message leads to people worshipping you, you're a bad prophet.
It's a good thing that Islam isn't correct.
@@jdotoz Of course the Quran agrees with Christians that Jesus was the most perfect human to ever live. Even Muhammad has his sins revealed in the Quran but Jesus has no sins.
Im jewish jesus was Jewish, i like christanity because it is so related to judasim, god bless my christan brothers and sisters,
Reminds me that Islam and Judaism are equally monotheistic and worship the same God unlike Christianity having polytheistic beliefs. Judaism is truly the same as Christianity! Praise the lord!
@@PrayYourSalatChristianity is monotheistic. But god bless you for promoting unity
Christianity isn’t related to Judaism, Christianity is the completion of Judaism, Judaism was the shadow of the arrival of Jesus, if you under prophecy, you will know Jesus was the fulfilment of Torah. Jesus said in the New Testament - He said to them, Luke 24:44 - “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.” If you are really a believer of God, you’d connect the dots, and not be like the Jews who rejected Jesus as the son of God that he claimed and proved.
@@pigswaatt218 I respect Christianity too. I unite it with Judaism and Islam. I only downgraded Christianity to the Jewish man to prove a point. I still hold it in high regard. God bless you too.
@@PrayYourSalatmonotheism doesn’t mean same God.. you Quran clearly contradicts the Torah in many places. How is the same God.. YHWH is the God of Abraham, you Quran God has no name..
Stop with this monotheism cop out.
My favorite line is from redeemed zoomer.
"Knock knock, it's Muhammad. He's politely asking everyone to become muslim. When that doesn't work he asks less politely"
wojak fan spotted.
and don't say thing like that. mohammed is no fictional character that is in public domain. it is never ok to make stories like that about religious figures. it is rude and disrespectful.
@@GoodMorning-b2w
Sure, no more jokes about Muhammad. Btw what is wojak, I'm C.S. Lewis and Thomas Aquinas fan. I read, I don't watch a muslim dude walk around and attack The Bible. + At least I don't just disappear in comments after running out of arguments.
@@andro6534
bro..
wait, who that 'muslim dude' you're referring to?
i don't watch any muslims attacking the bible, for i believe they're hypocrites, because i think a muslim should not mock or attack or 'debunk'' other religions. because the quran teaches religion tolerance. but sure, we have our believes about the bible being corrupted. but i don't personally agree with people who attack others. because there is really a chance that we are wrong. we don't have evidence, so we shouldn't attack.
but that's a belief that i won't change in my heart.
whatever, i'm contradicting myself kinda. but thanks, i won't mock any religion too.
i said wojak fan, because you talked about 'zoomer'.. i'm no wojak fan myself. but i've been watchin such content recently because many yt creators of the genre have 'a day in the life ' video of different jobs and people.
i love philosophy too, but i know so little about it.
we're no pen pals. i must stop too. i do run out of arguments it's true. lol.. and i disappear
@@andro6534 If you did not do any research about Islam, don't talk.
@@Creaturexx Didn't do any research about Islam? If you didn't do any research about me, don't talk to me.
After looking into Surah 5:47-48, it quickly becomes apparent that the quran assumes that Christians have the Gospel and that Christians are to use it to judge Islam. That puts the Gospel above the quran. If the Gospel contradicts the quran, then the quran is false.
Needs some correction, 5.47-48 only tells the Christians to use the Gospel to judge for themselves, just like 5.43 told the Jews to judge by the Torah, but 5.48 still says Allah sent the Quran to the Arabs as the "truth," but Allah does not want us to be one people that's why he gave us each our own law (Torah, Gospel, Quran).
So these verses specifically don't say the Gospel is above the Quran. Just that both should be used by different people.
But there are other verses in the Quran that do give supremacy to the Torah and Gospel over the Quran.
10:94 - Mohamad doubted that Quran is from God, told to ask the Jews and Christians to tell him if Quran is true or not
21.7 - if you don't know something ask the Christians
7.157 - The Quran claims its validity through the Bible.
@@timd3895 Thank you for this response. The part I gather that says the Gospel is over the quran is where it commands People of the Gospel to judge. I agree it's for themselves, but judge what? I take it they are to judge the veracity of the claims Muhammed and the quran make, and so that is why I propose Surah 5:47 says the Gospel is above the quran. Thank you for your comment.
actually the Quran judges the Gospel 💀
i don't know what translation you read bro
send me the verses from the translation you read
@@timd3895
10:94
the prophet responded with " When these verses were revealed, the Prophet (ﷺ) responded, “I am not in doubt and I will not ask ˹anyone˺.”"
21:7 EXPLCITILY talks about the messengers sent before the prophet,
"We did not send ˹messengers˺ before you ˹O Prophet˺ except mere men inspired by Us. If you ˹polytheists˺ do not know ˹this already˺, then ask those who have knowledge ˹of the Scriptures˺."
7:157
there's slight argumentation about if verse 7:157 is talking about Moses or the prophet
because of the verses leading up to that exact verse was about Moses
peace
@@hermanwooster8944
judge good and bad, punishments etc.
the Gospel is not over the Quran
the Quran is the Criterion over the Torah and Gospel
Gen 2:1-3 says God Rested on the 7th Day
Quran says Allah did not get tired making the Heavens and the earth
the Bible says Abraham and Joseph to Pharaoh
Quran says Abraham spoke to someone who Allah gave Kingdom and Joseph to a King and MOses to Pharaoh
verse 5:47 is is not talking about "The Gospel is over the Quran" shown by the verse itself
5:48 which explicitly says the Quran is the Supreme Authority over Previous Revelation
I as a Christian would not claim this argument.Because in 5:46 it is said that the gospel was *given* to christ.Anybody got a explanation?
The gospel that immediately vanished without a trace in history, yet Jesus was a successful prophet and the apostles were victors according to 3:55 and 61:14? That makes sense to you? Muhammad said these were books they had in the 7th century, books he said they themselves would find him in. What do you think he was referring to?
@@TestifyApologetics amen
@@TestifyApologeticsAll the tafsir books agree that the followers of Jesus in question are his followers from the time his message was pure and unadulterated. Secondly it also means Muslims who follow him the way he is meant to be followed and I will prove that with this verse 5:116
And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.
Do Muslims worship Jesus? No. Do Christians worship Jesus? Yes. Who is following Jesus's law then? Muslims are. Which make them the true believers who shall be placed above others.
For 61:14. The verse is self explanatory. Jesus praises his desciples for following him and the message Allah sent through him. They are the good believers. The Gospels you have today are not written by some Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Even your Christian scholars agree that no one is certain who wrote the gospels and they are merely attributed to these certain individuals but there is no concrete evidence that these people wrote the gospels word for word.
@@rida-18 Tafsir did not agree on JESUS if JESUS think GOD has a father and son. Stop lying satan. ISLAM CAUSED ALOT OF DESTRUCTIONS AND DEATH BECAUSE OF THE FALSE PROPHET MUHAMMAD
@@TestifyApologeticsAmen, brother
♦ ﴿ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَتَّخِذُوا الَّذِينَ اتَّخَذُوا دِينَكُمْ هُزُوًا وَلَعِبًا مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتَابَ مِنْ قَبْلِكُمْ وَالْكُفَّارَ أَوْلِيَاءَ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ مُؤْمِنِينَ * وَإِذَا نَادَيْتُمْ إِلَى الصَّلَاةِ اتَّخَذُوهَا هُزُوًا وَلَعِبًا ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ قَوْمٌ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ ﴾
Source Of Islam Is "trust me bro"
@@Faithexplorer4376 I might be wrong so please correct me, but as far as i'm aware in islam you believe that the word of allah is unchangable and uncorruptable, and also believe that the bible and torah are the word of God, but the Bible contradicts the Quran. You obviously know more about Islam than i do so i assume you have a good anwser for me
@@Faithexplorer4376again, you try and twist your verses in favor of you. Not what they flat out say. And I ask again: where is the proof of the Injil’s existence? You can make all these claims if you like, but they won’t stand or be counted as valid without the proof to back it up. Give us the evidence that there was a different Gospel than what we have. Just because “something makes sense” doesn’t suddenly make it correct or truthful.
@@JesusisKing-b4jhe’s gonna give you the same narrative: that there was an “original” Gospel given to Jesus called the Injil. This is supposed to contain what Muslims believe is the true message. They argue that this Injil was never actually changed and therefore uncorrupted. That the Gospels in the Bible were made completely separate from it, using it as a basis for their creation. The problem is there is no evidence of its existence. Not even asking for a copy, there is no proof of it existing. And worse, the verses both you and the video mention refers to the Gospel in the present tense, suggesting it was around in the false prophet’s time. And because we have no evidence of the existence of the Injil, the only valid conclusion is that the Quran refers to the Gospels in the Bible. All 4 of which contradict the Quran.
@@TheTemplar168 thanks for the clarification
@@JesusisKing-b4jno problem. Christ is King, may He bless you.
2:40 clearly the "beware of false prophets" verse is mohammed lol
anti christ dude
@zadasaida Maybe because Jesus knows that there would be others before him claiming to be prophets. That’s why he said “prophets” instead of “prophet”. Because his not warning about only one prophet. I mean I’m pretty sure there are lots of people back in the day claiming to be prophets not just Muhammad.
in the bible and or the torah mohammed was mentioned as the final prophet. but clearly you don't know that, because you're busy getting married without an official marriage.
@zadasaida nope. think or think not. it's about the truth. you should ask for a religious scholars' thought not some fan of a yter who is looking for quick cash.
mohammed is not a false prophet.
@@GoodMorning-b2w
He was not mentiones.
Unless you are talking about false prophets
I never thought about doubting the righteous living God for a false one, I just doubted why I couldn’t be in full argument over the truth, (I’m a novice follower of Jesus) but what I know from the Bible is, “he who has ears let him hear”, “do not dash your foot on the stone when you fall”, and “if they do not welcome you simply turn around and wipe the dust off your feet”. I don’t know too much from the Bible but these are scriptures I’ve recently read, and (I think) tells me that I should worry about those who are interested in the truth than those who defend a lie. I also encountered Jesus a few months ago, and now nothing in this world can deter me from what I experienced or saw. Thank you Jesus Christ for your light, and thank you God for allowing your Holy Spirit to reveal your son to me, the son who was made Man and crucified for the salvation of all those who believe and worship Him
if you are an ex muslim, please rethink this.
Amen 🙏
@@GoodMorning-b2wor don’t. Without lies, Islam dies
@@GoodMorning-b2wor don’t.
@@GoodMorning-b2wQuran is false, and debunks itself. Also, kind of hard to deny Christ when you’ve encountered Him. Maybe you ought to think about changing your faith.
This Islam series is doing wonders
Great upload timing-I’m literally omw to missions in a primarily Islamic country!
@@Bruh_Bean HYPE! PRAYING FOR THE GOSPEL TO BE SPREAD THERE :D
I pray for your safety and that you reach as many hearts as possible ❤ God bless 🙏
@@Faithexplorer4376prove it. And Testify has literally done videos addressing how they were written earlier than we think. Not to mention, tell me how long after the false prophet passed were the earliest Hadiths written? Hm?
@@Faithexplorer4376 Mohammed was a horrible person. He married a young girl and he was a warlord and a slaver. Jesus set people free.
Good luck brother, I'm praying for you!
as a muslim
before watching this video i had strong faith in islam
and after watching I have even more faith in islam
everything this guy is arguing is either based on misinterpretations of verses or jumping to conclusions whenever it benefits him
im not bothered typing all the rebuttals, but basically one of this guy's main point is that the quran says that the torah and injeel (gospel) are gods words, but then it says that that they have been altered. when the quran talks about them being gods words, it means the unchanged, true gods words that were actually given to the prophet musa (moses) and prophet isa (jesus). when the quran is 'confirming what was before it' its confirming the actual unchanged torah and injeel, not the altered stuff
another rebuttal i have is for 5:56, where this youtber says that the quran says that the 'quran implies that jesus and his apostles were successful preachers of Islam, and will be till the end of the age (judgement day), but the quran doesnt actually say that. instead the quran says that it will make 'YOUR FOLLOWERS' (prophet isa's followers) superior, which does NOT imply anythigng about jesus being a successful preacher to everyone, only a few of his ACTUAL followers. even in the video the youtuber says that the quran 'IMPLIES', when in reality this is just a blatant misinterpretation. In the verse that this youtuber quoted, nowhere does it say that Jesus was successful. However, I can also use the youtubers own argument against him as the quran states that allah will 'make your [talking about jesus's] followers superior to those who disbelieve', which directly coincides with the fact that during the last sermon of the prophet muhammad, he said, '"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety and good action." this quote basically means that no one is superior to the other except in good deeds and piety. exactly like the verse
if you realise the misinterpretations and assumptions that are said by a person who strategically speaks fast to seem smarter and logical, you can clearly see that Islam is perfect, the quran is perfect, and that moses, jesus and muhammad were all prophets of islam, peace and blessings of allah be upon them all.
and also the literal biggest thing that has made me never even consider christianity as being the true religion,
if you search up what the trinity is on google, the first image that comes up is a diagram explaining it. it says that the father, son and holy spirit are all separate, but they are all god? god is the most powerful, god is the most knowledgeable, god is the most high, but if there are multiple gods, how can they all be number 1? either theres only 1 'all-powerful' or there are no 'all-powerfuls', do you get it? you can be the best at something if there is someone else is as good as you, you know?
'oh but god just incarcerated himself into being human, but hes still god at the same time' but god is the absolute perfection? how can a god in god form and god in human form both be perfect? again, the same logic, human ≠ god, god = perfect, human ≠ perfect, jesus ≠ perfect
and also Testify if you're reading this if you're going to make more of these videos, do not mock Islam. or any other religion honestly. the way you talk about islam in these videos, and with the pictures of people dressed in Arab clothes with like the red stained eyes is kinda annoying and makes someone not want to open their mind to your arggguments. also a lot of muslims arent even arab lol like im not even arab
@@Zarak-y1qJust like Muslims and Atheists they always twist the Bible
So Testify takes Revenge on you and your fellow Muslims and Atheists
@@AarizK-c5rwrite Allah CAPITAL
His deleting comments btw
@@ahmad_jod_ why?
what the hell is wrong with people in the comments?
"Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind." -Quran, Surah 22, Verse 46.
So my heart is blind for not supporting things like child marriage which is found in Surah At-Talaq (65:4) backed by Muhammad marriage of Aisha at 9 women having half the testimony of a man because they are deficient in the mind hadith (Sahih Bukhari 2658) I'm blind I guess because I don't support Muhammad having intercourse with married captives aswell in Sahih Muslim (3432) which Allah allowed Surah An-Nisa (4:24) Islam also allows polygamy slavery (ik it's different but enslaving someone is bad you can't strip someone from their rights without consent) the Quran also provides Alot of sceinfic inaccurates like bones were made before the flesh in Surah An-Nisa (4:24) the sun orbiting the earth in Surah Ya-Sin (36:38-40) mountains stabilizing the earth Surah An-Naba (78:6-7) humans being made from clay Surah Al-Hijr (15:26) humanity shrinking in height Sunan Ibn Majah (4030) Sahih Bukhari (3320) and Sahih Muslim (5479) dripping a fly and eating it's wing is dumb asf
So my heart is blind for not supporting things like child marriage which is found in Surah At-Talaq (65:4) backed by Muhammad marriage of Aisha at 9 women having half the testimony of a man because they are deficient in the mind hadith (Sahih Bukhari 2658) I'm blind I guess because I don't support Muhammad having intercourse with married captives aswell in Sahih Muslim (3432) which Allah allowed Surah An-Nisa (4:24) Islam also allows polygamy slavery (ik it's different but enslaving someone is bad you can't strip someone from their rights without consent) the Quran also provides Alot of sceinfic inaccurates like bones were made before the flesh in Surah An-Nisa (4:24) the sun orbiting the earth in Surah Ya-Sin (36:38-40) mountains stabilizing the earth Surah An-Naba (78:6-7) humans being made from clay Surah Al-Hijr (15:26) humanity shrinking in height
The life of Muhammad already shows he is not a good person he told Aisha to throw dust at women mourning the deaths of their husbands in Hadith 925 if anything no offense or disrespect you guys are blind because Islam is just a worse version of Christianity just like how Christianity is bad Islam takes that by 10 folds
Im am so frustrated at the people insulting Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
@@Zedskii dude who doesn't insult a pedophile
"Let's expose false religion and shine the light of Christ one video at a time." - Testify (probably)
Amen
watch
"TestifyApologetics is a Jahil (Ignorant)" by Farhan"
@@ahmed_hamoda9783no thanks. Go sulk in your corner without proof of the “original” Injil’s existence
@@TestifyApologetics Just asking why dont you prove that judaism or buddhism or any other religion is wrong?
Why wont you prove that satanists are wrong?
why do you have to do your best to prove that muslims are wrong?
Look ill subscribe to your channel and do a research about your religion ONLY if you have a debate with the sheikh othman on youtube and post the video
@@ahmed_hamoda9783 u gonna respond to yoeza or any other people
Islam is the most "trust me bro" religion ever.
every religion is this
@@carlosgamer2818 No, we have history and evidence
@@Watrmlontea change your words. Islam is the most evediencal relegion ever
@@underworlds2794 explanation?
@@Watrmlontea Water is essential for all living things. We all know that water is vital to life but the Quran makes a very unusual claim:
... And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
(Quran 21:30)
In this verse water is pointed out as the origin of all life. All living things are made of cells. We now know, through intensive scientific research, that cells are mostly made up of water. For example, 80% of the cytoplasm (basic cell material) of a standard animal cell is described as water in biology textbooks.
The fact that living things consist mostly of water was discovered only after the invention of the microscope. In the deserts of Arabia, the last thing someone would have guessed is that all life came from water.
2. Iron
Iron is not natural to the earth. It is not a natural resource on earth, instead Iron originated in outer space and was sent down to earth. This may sound strange but it’s true. Scientists have concluded that billions of years ago, the earth was struck by meteorites. These meteorites were carrying Iron from distant stars which had exploded.
The Quran says the following on the origin of Iron:
And We sent down iron with its great might, benefits for humanity ...
(Quran 57:25)
God Almighty uses the words ‘sent down’ for Iron. It is clear from the verse that Iron is not an earthly material, but was sent down for the benefit of humanity. The fact that Iron came down to earth from outer space is something which could not be known by the primitive science of the 7th century. If this choice of accurate words is not a sign that the Quran is the word of the All-knowing God, then what is?
3. Mountains
The Quran draws our attention to a very important characteristic of mountains:
Have We not smoothed out the earth ˹like a bed˺,
and ˹made˺ the mountains as ˹its˺ pegs
(Quran 78:6-7)
The Quran describes mountains as 'stakes' which in fact is an accurate description of the physical characteristics of mountains. Today we have come to know, that mountains have deep roots which 'stake' the mountain into the ground. Actually, mountains have roots below the earth's surface far larger that the size of the mountain above the ground.
The fact that mountains have deep ‘stake’ like roots was not known, until after the development of the theory of plate tectonics in the beginning of the 20th century. - Another sign that the Quran is the word of God.
4. Expansion of the Universe
At a time when the science of Astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in Quran:
We built the universe with ˹great˺ might, and We are certainly expanding ˹it˺
(Quran 51:47)
The fact that the universe is expanding was discovered in the last century. The physicist Stephen Hawking in his book ‘A Brief History of Time’ writes, “The discovery that the universe is expanding was one of the great intellectual revolutions of the 20th century.”.
The Quran mentioned the expansion of the universe even before the invention of the telescope!
These are just some of the many scientific facts found in the Quran. It is important to note that the Quran is not a book of science, but that it is consistent with science. To claim that scientific facts in the Quran are due to coincidence would be irrational. Rather, the Quran is a result of revelation revealed by the All-knowing God to his Prophet.
The main purpose of identifying the scientific facts mentioned in the Quran is to affirm that there is an All-knowing God that exists. We affirm this by concluding that the facts mentioned in the Quran over 1400 years ago in a civilization with almost no scientific advancements could not have been known by anyone other than the Creator. From here we then identify that science does not conflict with the concept of God, rather it is more logical to say that God, the Creator, has perfected the creation of the universe and all that is within it. This perfection is governed by systems and rules that we call science. Through the Quran, God tells us some of the 'secrets' of the universe's creation/systems, if only humanity would listen.
Just like the Quran contains knowledge about the natural world, it also contains information about the inner dimensions of our souls. It relates to our feelings, wants and needs. The Quran informs us that we have a purpose in life, and that following God’s guidance will lead us to inner peace in this life, and Paradise in the hereafter. And that rejection of his message will lead to depression in this life and Hellfire after death.
We will show them Our signs in the universe and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that this ˹Quran˺ is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is a Witness over all things?
(Quran 41:53)
We literally have no original Quran. Mohammad was illiterate and did not write, there was massive disagreement as to what the Quran should look like to the point where we don’t actually have an original Quran.
While I totally agree and makes the Quran less reliable, you have to remember we don’t have the original copies of the Gospels or Bible either. So this isn’t as big an argumentative point as you think. It’s about showing how Islam can’t be correct with its own material, like how it claims the Gospels as revelations from Allah. The Quran then says his words can’t be corrupted, and refers to them in the present tense, which suggests they were around at this time. And the claim that there was a completely different and original one falls flat since there is no proof of its existence. Boom. Checkmate Islam.
@williamTobith yeah their book have no flaw but also no source, really reliable
@@TheTemplar168 The Quran affirms the authenticity of the Injeel, not the Gospel. And yes, his words cannot be corrupted. However, that doesn't mean that people cannot change his book that was written down and put in their own little texts and writings. His WORD is uncorrupt regardless, but not the changed texts in the Gospel. 2+2 = 4 is a universal truth whether you believe it or not. However, you could just come in and replace it as 2+2=3. However, the fact that 2+2=4 remains the truth and non-corruptable stands.
Problem is the Injil given to Isa hasn't been located.
@@TheTemplar168 Read Tafsir Kathir about 2:57 the verse you are referring to is talking about the Quran, not the Injil, also there is no proof that Jesus rose from the death outside of the Bible
Whenever I am bored or upset about something I watch your channel just to have a laugh
Iknow I am blessed and appreciated by Allah almighty
Thank god
1:50 i think you should add the arabic text of the surah, plus point if u can read arabic / understand the language of the quran (tafsir). btw quran never mention "gospel" in that surah(al maidah 47. instead the surah mention "ahlul injil" mean "followers of injil", by muslim pov "injil" that christianity believe rn not the same as injil that revealead by jesus/isa AS(jesus by muslim pov).
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
Galatians 1:6-9
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
According to Islamic tradition, Muhammad was visited by the angel Jibril (Gabriel), who revealed to him the beginnings of what would later become the Qur'an.
God creates, Satan counterfeits.
Matthew 7:15-20
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Ik there is more prophet for the false prophet but this is enough
That was Satan not Gabriel, biblically, the angel gabriel DID NOT press mary against the ground until she couldnt bear it anymore and forced her to believe in Christ/God, he also started with Be no afraid, where as in islam, the "angel gabriel" supposedly appeared infrynt of Muhammed and pressed him against the ground till he couldnt bear it any more and told him to read and write, even though he said he couldnt, he also did not start it off with be not afraid, so the bible contradicts quran
@@TsukiYoruCrystalandKuro that’s what I think as well. It was most likely Satan posing as Gabriel to trick Muhammed into creating a counterfeit religion, Islam.
doesn't make sense because Matthew 12:26 "If satan drives out of satan, he is divided against himself, how then can his kingdom stand?" and in the quran it is obviously mentioned lots of times to not sin, which is against the idea of satan
@@average_9 It wouldn’t matter if you sin or not if you don’t follow Jesus in the first place. Satan will do whatever he can to deceive you and have you stray away from the Lord. He’ll do whatever he can to convince you that you don’t need Jesus Christ as your savior, whether you think that you’re a good person or not.
As I said before, Islam is a satanic counterfeit. The Quran unequivocally points to the bible as being corrupt, despite the fact that the Bible is the most studied, commentated upon and dissected more than any book in history. Unlike the Quran, the Bible is also the best attested document of all ancient writings.
THIS IS SO TRUE, IM A MUSLIM BUT I’VE ALWAYS FELT THIS WAY AND I’M GLAD PPL SEE IT TOO
@@Sam-..- turn to Christ brother
Turn to Christ brother ❤
Please talk to your imam or ask a sheikh about any questions about Islam.. Dont stay quiet.
Wait, how?
Jesus is pursuing you ❤ Turn to Him
You’re actually becoming my favourite Christian RUclipsr, sharing this channel with my buddies. Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ ✝️
You people are Just like pharisees.
Affirm means affirmative confirmation. Confirm can be affirmative or negative.
Quran 4:47
Quran is sent to confirm what you have with you
I am sent to confirm who you are
Quran confirms what you have with you is corrupted.
I confirm you are an imposter.
Learn English.
3:57 Allah only said this for Qur'an...
Al Fadi and Cira International have done great work exposing the flaws and outright lies in the Standard Islamic Narrative. I highly recommend checking them out.
@@Bad_Llama I love that guy too.
like?
are the expert arabic speakers?
even people who graduated from 3 universaties atleast and study Quran for Life say there's no Flaw in it 💀
i don't remember her name but she graduated from Birlin and other universaties
and is expert in the Quran
says it has no flaw and it's linguistic ability is a masterpiece
you sure these are not hate speakers or bad translations?
@@ahmed_hamoda9783you don’t sound biased at all, ahmed
@@ballistic9644
idk if that's sarcasm or not
@@ahmed_hamoda9783 its very clearly sarcasm. a) Muslims whine about hate all day despite the fact they openly hate all non Muslims and b) this is something Muslims are completed to say, despite the fact tis completely unfalsifiable and subjective and could never be a criteria for truth, the fact the Quran even makes an argument that bad is pretty clear proof it is not from God.
Don't forget to mention the "holes in the narrative" situation about the preservation of the qurad next video
the more i learn about Islam the more i understand why Christians call Mormonism American Islam
Galatians 6:7 says, "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap".
Muhammad had an encounter with an Angel of Darkness and that Darkness still covers the Islamic world blinding Muslims from seeing the Light of Christ
That Angel Of Darkness is the same angel that Joseph Smith encountered.
@@danielanthony8373 that has always been my take on it as well
@@danielanthony8373 2 Cor 4:4
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
whats your source, how can you be sure what youre saying is true? you can't throw around false accusations about the prophet of god.
that 'angel if darkness' as you call it was also the angel that spoke to Mary and told her she was pregnant with jesus
1:28 there is a difference between the gospels mentioned in the quran and the gospels you have mentioned
How do you know
@@eastsideapologetics6147 obviously because the gospels mentioned in the quran were directly from god.
@@tommyplayzxd5453 But HOW do you know the Gospel mentioned in the quran is different than the Gospel the Christians have today?
May you point me to the source you're getting this CLAIM from please?
@eastsideapologetics6147 the original copies of the gospels and the torah were lost and the earliest manuscripts we have are 300 - 400 after jesus. Plus we would obviously know because of contradiction. Bible has more contradictions than the quran.
@@tommyplayzxd5453 HOW DO YOU KNOW THE ORIGINAL GOSPEL AND TORAH WERE LOST?
WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION FROM?
Ah yes. The Islamic dilemma.
ah yes. the joke religion that is christianity getting relieved by hearing about misinformation about another religion from an unqualified individual that is a yter looking for some quick cash
1:14 Verse 3 which follows carries the reported proof of the Oneness of Allah. Briefly stated, it means that the principle of توحید tauhid as de-scribed in the Holy Qur'an is not something peculiar to the Qur'an or the Prophet of Islam. On the contrary, Allah Almighty has sent Scrip-tures such as the Torah and the Injil, and His prophets, in earlier times. And this was they all professed and this was they all brought as the message. When the Qur'an came, it simply confirmed their truth. It did not present any new claim which could pose problems for people in its understanding or acceptance.
above is the tafsir from Ma'arif Al-Qur'an. May Allah grant us all understanding, Ameen
refuted in 5 minutes. Allah never promised to preserve the previous books. this is first grade knowledge lol. And cutting a surah out of context is expected from apologetics. find the light.
he clearly encourages people to read the book and use it as a form of authority. It is really clear that the christians had the gospel in their posession. How could they otherwise judge according to their book?? And if it's corrupted, why would Allah encourage use to use and read it?
@@stephanievandenberg5559 Your bible gets updates more than fortnite , maybe shut up if you dont want me to complete , how would even mary the virgin get jesus when she was married to joseph later not the god father , or did the god father rape mary?? that wouldnt be true for a god to reproduce with humans lol , debunked
@@stephanievandenberg5559True, another guy posted a giant comment above and the muslims are praising him, but in his third point about surah 5:47 he said allah is encouraging christians to read their bible and understand the essence of monotheism only. So is allah in the quran telling christians to read the gospels and pick and choose what they want only ?
For me its this simple. I will not trust the writtings of someone who never even met Jesus or knew his followers to tell me about Jesus. Most importantly I wont trust someone who claims the EXACT opposite of what Jesus said. Everyone around him knew he was calling himself God. Especially in John when Jesus says " truly I tell you before Abraham was born, I am"
In response to this video I'll address the claims made and refute them using strong arguments. The video relies on a misunderstanding of both the Quran and the Bible, and it fails to account for numerous contradictions within the Bible itself. Let's go through this step by step. The Quran's Relationship with the Bible: Misunderstanding Revelation. The video claims that the Quran endorses the Bible and therefore must be wrong when it disagrees with the Bible. This is a gross oversimplification. Key Quranic Position: The Quran acknowledges that the Torah and the Gospel were revealed by Allah but also explicitly mentions that these scriptures were subject to alteration and corruption by people. For example, in Surah Al-Baqarah 2:79, it says: "Woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, and then say, 'This is from Allah,' to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they earn." This verse clearly indicates that some people altered the original revelations for their own gain. This is not a contradiction but a recognition of human interference with divine texts. False Claim of Endorsement: The verses quoted in the video (like Surah 5:47) simply command the Christians of the time to judge by whatever remains of God's word in their scriptures, not an endorsement of every single verse in the current Bible. The Quran critiques the tampered parts while acknowledging the original divine source. This nuance is entirely missed in the video. The Preservation of the Quran: A frequent claim in the comments was that there are “30 versions and 95,000 differences” in the Quran. This is a gross distortion. Textual Variants Are Normal in Oral Traditions: The Quran was revealed in multiple recitations (Qira'at), which were not "different Qurans" but authorized variations to accommodate different dialects of Arabic. These recitations do not affect the meaning of the Quran but rather reflect different pronunciations and minor linguistic details. This is well-known in Islamic scholarship. Contrast with the Bible: The Bible, however, does not enjoy such preservation. The New Testament has thousands of variants across manuscripts. Bart D. Ehrman, a renowned biblical scholar, has noted that the number of textual variants in the New Testament exceeds the number of words in the New Testament itself. This is a severe issue for the claim of biblical preservation. Contradictions in the Bible: If the Quran’s foundation is questioned for its supposed contradictions, we must apply the same standard to the Bible. Here are some blatant contradictions in the Bible: The Death of Judas: In Matthew 27:5, Judas hangs himself. In Acts 1:18, Judas falls headlong, and his body bursts open. These are two irreconcilable accounts of how Judas died. Genealogy of Jesus: Matthew 1 and Luke 3 present two completely different genealogies for Jesus. They can't both be right. Creation of the World: Genesis 1 says that plants were created before humans. Genesis 2 says humans were created before plants. These contradictions raise questions about the Bible’s reliability as a preserved divine document. Misunderstanding the Role of Jesus: The video asserts that the Quran contradicts the Gospels on key points such as Jesus's divinity, crucifixion, and resurrection. However, the Quran was revealed precisely to correct these misunderstandings that crept into Christian theology. Jesus as a Prophet, Not Divine: The Quran in Surah An-Nisa 4:171 calls Jesus a prophet and a servant of God, not the Son of God. This returns to the monotheism of earlier prophets, which was later altered in Christian theology through Paul’s teachings and later councils, like the Council of Nicaea. Crucifixion: In Surah 4:157, the Quran clarifies that Jesus was not crucified but that it was made to appear so. This verse challenges the interpretation of the crucifixion in the New Testament, which, by the way, also contains contradictions: In John 19:14, Jesus is crucified after the 6th hour, while in Mark 15:25, he is crucified at the 3rd hour. Paul’s Influence and Gospel Corruption: Christianity today is more influenced by the teachings of Paul than by the teachings of Jesus himself. Paul introduced doctrines like the divinity of Jesus and salvation through faith (see Romans and Galatians), which are absent in the original teachings of Jesus. Even scholars like E.P. Sanders have admitted that Paul reinterpreted Jesus's message, shifting the focus from the Kingdom of God to personal salvation. Conclusion: The Quran Stands Strong: The Quran was revealed to restore the monotheism of previous prophets and correct the distortions found in earlier scriptures. The contradictions in the Bible, coupled with historical corruption, only reinforce the need for a final, unaltered revelation, which the Quran provides. The supposed "self-destructive" nature of the Quran is nothing more than a misunderstanding or willful misrepresentation. The claim that the Quran supports the unaltered Bible is misleading. The Quran distinguishes between the original revelations given to Moses and Jesus and the tampered versions that exist today. Additionally, numerous contradictions within the Bible itself discredit the idea that it is a perfectly preserved, reliable guide for Christians. As for the comments mocking the preservation of the Quran, those are based on ignorance or deliberate distortion of Islamic textual tradition. The Quran remains the only religious text with rigorous memorization and transmission methods, ensuring its preservation through centuries. Ultimately, the Quran critiques and corrects the errors found in the Bible, not the other way around. The accusations made in the video crumble under scrutiny. Why Did Allah Allow the Torah and Gospel to be Corrupted?
In Islam, Allah's decision to allow human beings free will is fundamental. He sent guidance through different prophets and scriptures, but humans can choose to preserve or distort that guidance. The Torah and Gospel were revelations meant for specific peoples at specific times, and their corruption was due to human actions, not a failure on God's part. The Quran, as the final revelation, was promised divine protection from corruption, as stated in Surah Al-Hijr 15:9:
"Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian."
This differs from previous scriptures, which were entrusted to the religious leaders of their communities. The Quran, however, was given a special status as the final, universal message to all humanity, protected by Allah from the distortions seen in previous texts.
Why Didn't Allah Prevent Corruption Before?
Allah's plan for humanity includes the test of how people handle revelation. In both the Torah and Gospel, scholars, religious leaders, or political authorities could alter the message for personal gain. The idea that Allah should prevent every human action to maintain purity contradicts the principle of free will. He allowed humans to exercise their choice, even if that meant distorting His words.
With the Quran, Allah ensures its preservation for all time as it represents the final guidance that cannot be altered for future generations. Historically, unlike the Torah and Gospel, the Quran has not suffered major textual corruption, and the multiple recitations (Qira'at) have been meticulously preserved.
The Quran's Own Verses About Corruption
Surah 2:79 criticizes those who distorted scriptures during Muhammad’s time, but this does not imply that the entire Torah or Gospel was completely corrupted beyond recognition. It highlights corruptions in religious teachings and practices that warranted clarification through the Quran, which returns to the original monotheistic message of earlier prophets.
Why Believe the Quran Won't Be Corrupted?
The Quran's protection from corruption is ensured by divine promise and the method of preservation. It was memorized in its entirety by many companions of the Prophet Muhammad, and this tradition continues today, along with the written text. There is no comparable process for the Torah or the Gospel. The textual transmission of the Bible, for instance, has suffered thousands of variations across manuscripts, as recognized by scholars like Bart Ehrman.
Claim of "Self-Refuting Nonsense"
This phrase is used without evidence. The Quran makes it clear that earlier scriptures were for specific peoples and subject to corruption by their religious authorities, which is why Allah sent the Quran to restore the true monotheistic message. This is not a "comedy of errors" but a consistent plan where God allows humans to be tested, giving them the freedom to distort or follow His guidance.
Addressing "Allah and His Prophets Need to Do Better"
This statement is emotional rather than logical. In Islamic belief, prophets were not sent to enforce God's message by force, but to convey it clearly and truthfully. Whether people followed or corrupted the message was a test for them. Criticizing God's wisdom reflects a misunderstanding of the larger purpose behind free will, divine testing, and human responsibility.
In conclusion, the Torah and Gospel were not failures but fulfilled their purposes for their times. The Quran, as the final revelation, corrects the alterations made to earlier texts and is divinely protected from the same fate. The comment shared dismisses key theological principles and makes a shallow argument against the Quran’s reliability.
I Love this! How long did it take you to write😂?
@@user-tk1qx forty to fifty minutes maybe.. I'm just trying to clear up misunderstandings man. We all have our own personal beliefs but that doesn't mean that you try to look down on other religions with misunderstandings right? We've gotta respect other people's opinions and beliefs. And even if we are "disproving" other religions, maybe we can try to do proper research.
@@ZombifiedZombieVillager Right! I love how you took your time for such a well written and well researched comment😍🙏🏼
@@ZombifiedZombieVillager I don’t remember where I reared the phrase: “you can found an scientific paper that says anything, what validates it’s others papers saying the same thing”. He probably could found sources that said the same thing and others contrary. When deciding witch one is valid he needed some criteria, he used the “Bible is true” = A as a true premises and the premise that “the Bible being true imply the Koran being false ” = B, he had from start had the conclusion defined.
{~A|B,A}= B
3:38 - nobody can mess with god's words but people can misatribute words to god. its like adding in words but not changing them
Alright, Lets do this one last time
*puts Spiderman mask on*
"The Quran claims the Gospels are divinely inspired and preserved, yet it contradicts key Christian doctrines, such as the divinity of Jesus and his resurrection. ", The Quran does not claim the gospels are preserved, yet It is divinely inspired. Just completely flawed and unpreserved
To tackle each point you made, we first have to take each ayat (verse) from each surah (Chapter) in full context to what was said BEFORE and AFTER it
Surah Al Ma'ida 5:47 "So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious.", Indeed, Allah is telling the Christians to look in their own books for judgement, But allah says so as a challenge to the validity of the Bible, it's an arabic rhetorical device called "نكر" (nakr) Which means "to deny" or "to repudiate." It often pertains to rejecting something or refusing to acknowledge it in what may be a question, And The context in which it is used can vary based on the sentence structure and accompanying words. If we look in the same surah at Ayah 5:41 "O Messenger! Do not grieve for those who race to disbelieve-those who say, “We believe” with their tongues, but their hearts are in disbelief. Nor those among the Jews who eagerly listen to lies, attentive to those who are too arrogant to come to you. They distort the Scripture, taking rulings out of context, then say, “If this is the ruling you get ˹from Muhammad˺, accept it. If not, beware!” Whoever Allah allows to be deluded, you can never be of any help to them against Allah. It is not Allah’s Will to purify their hearts. For them is disgrace in this world, and they will suffer a tremendous punishment in the Hereafter." Later Allah says "They eagerly listen to falsehood and consume forbidden gain. So if they come to you ˹O Prophet˺, either judge between them or turn away from them. If you turn away from them, they cannot harm you whatsoever. But if you judge between them, then do so with justice. Surely Allah loves those who are just." . Allah then continues to use The example at how the Jews had the Torah revealed to them, and Denied the Bible and what Allah preaches, and how the Christians will deny the Quran in the same way.
When he says let the people of the gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it, Its a challenge for the Christians to compare the gospel to the Quran, In terms of what Allah has brought in both scriptures. in the context of the surah, However it can not be taken outside of the Arabic context nor outside the context of what was said Before it.
"The Quran's assertions about the gospels as reliable revelations clash with its own claims of corruption. This contradiction undermines the Quran's credibility as a divine text."
We as Muslims acknowledge the gospel and the torah as holy books sent by Allah that were unpreserved my guy, We are not saying the versions we have now are Valid in any way, shape, or form. but the versions that were revealed to Jesus and Moses were sent by Allah, as well as all the revelations sent by the prophets beforehand. However we also believe that over time each scripture becomes corrupted, And people twist the words in them through translation and Lack of preservation or just overall confusion that they are unreliable and outdated, We don't believe that the Quran is the new and improved gospel, we believe that it is the same material Allah sent on all prophets, but this time it is preserved in it s original language, preserved through oral memorization passed on through centuries, and the exact same as the first source revealed to the Sahaba by the prophet (The companions of the prophet at that time)
The Quran's perspective on Jesus and the Gospels can be understood within its own theological framework. As we as Muslims believe that the Quran provides the final and complete revelation, which may reinterpret earlier scriptures rather than contradict them. The differences can be seen as a clarification of previous messages rather than outright contradictions. The Quran acknowledges the Gospels as part of a broader divine message. Differences in theological interpretation do not necessarily imply contradiction; they can reflect the evolution of religious understanding over time. Each scripture serves its purpose within its own context. it suggests that alterations may have occurred over time. This does not negate their original divine inspiration but indicates a need for the Quran to provide the final, unaltered message. The Quran's confirmation of previous scriptures can be viewed as an affirmation of their original messages, while the contradictions may arise from differing interpretations of those messages. The Quran provides a new context for understanding these teachings. Any point you made after this can be answered with those same exact answers, and when an argument draws back to one conclusion, It usually means there s a lack of understanding to the Material that argument is based upon by said "debunk"
Muslim apologists argue that the Quran critiques Christian and Jewish scriptures for corruption. But The Quran's critiques can be LITERALLY seen as addressing specific practices or interpretations of scripture that were prevalent at the time of its revelation which literally does not imply a blanket statement about the entirety of the previous scriptures but rather a call for adherence to the original divine message.
"why Didnt earlier texts like the Torah and Gospels were not similarly safeguarded."
There are whole books written by various theologians about that exact same question, and to put it simply it is because of translations my friend
The original languages of the Bible And Torah are primarily Original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek. All languages that not only predate the Germanic languages we are used to now, but are also languages with different rhetorical devices, grammar structures, and just look ENTIRELY different
The Hebrew spoken during the time of Moses (approximately 1300-1200 BCE) is considered to be an earlier form of the language that has evolved over time. While modern Hebrew retains many features of Biblical Hebrew, it has also undergone significant changes, including the addition of new vocabulary and grammatical structures. Therefore, while they are related, the Hebrew used during Moses' time is not the same as contemporary Hebrew.
Preserving those books in their original language, then accurately depicting what they mean in our modern day languages not only proves to be a difficult task, but almost nigh impossible since The books of the Bible were initially written and copied by hand on papyrus scrolls. And NO originals have survived.
You could then pull up the point of the preservation by oral practice, but that isn't something the The Christians nor the Jews do, unlike the Muslims who had this as a customary practice since The very first Preaching of the Quran, hence why people memorize the entirety of the Quran word for word, and could recite every verse in every chapter by order flawlessly, Also since the language that the Quran came in, Arabic, is still widely used nowadays We can make sure that there have been no adjustments
IF you want further proof for that, your first point was literally drawn based on your lack of understanding of the rhetorical tools Arabic uses, (which is very ironic In my opinion) Which just proves that the language barrier will always lead to misunderstanding the context of Words
Your whole point falls flat with one question: where is the proof of existence for this “original” Injil?
A load of yap just to get shut by some dude with a sentence lmao
@@TheTemplar168ik i dont git proof and stuff and im probably sounding dumb but where is actual proof that the bible was written by jesus and not by some random author tryna brainwash people and same to the quran idk these stuff but someone correct me if im wrong pls
@@TheTemplar168 the real injeel is lost. you tell me... when "Jesus" was spreading the gospel what was he spreading? it wasnt his lineage or his lore it was the word of a one God.
@@TheTemplar168 Christians fault that they can't memories their own book like Muslims
Nailed it
You know a religion is bust when one guy can make two (or possibly even more) videos about catch 22s that disprove it.
This is why I'm not religious lmao. Because you Christians think this video basically disproves Islam, but there are arguments by Islam in response to this. Just like there are hundreds of videos disproving Christianity, and Christians can 'refute' those vids. SHOCKER people. You're both correct. Organised religion does not hold the truth u silly ppl.
All what i am thinking about is why do some christians shove their noses up in islam and keep complaining about how they hate it and not even making videos discovering their holy book or even reading it
You know a religious group (Christian’s) are desperate and insecure about their faith being true that they blindly follow a guy talking ignorantly about a faith that shadows over it to delude themselves to make them selves feel better
He didn't do anything, wdym?
@@XZagatoX ik testify keeps on making false accusations trust me for example in surat al imran 3:3-4 it actually says He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
Easy fix, show us the original form of the injeel in its entirety in Aramaic (the original language)
Spoiler alert: you can’t
It's no mistake that the colors on all the flags of the Islamic Nations happened to be the colors of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. It's not a mistake because they follow the false prophet and their Beast is about to rise. But fear not,Jesus returns soon.
Oh yeah. Been putting that connection in the past few video comments now. Muslims seem to ignore when the Bible actively refuted their religion specifically despite it coming out centuries after these refutations were made. Coincidence? I think not.
Those flags and their colors were purposely created that way by the British and it is funny to see Arabs continue to embrace them.
@@Lord9Genesiswell since King Charles is the Antichrist the math on that checks out
@@Lord9Genesis author Tim cohen
I’ve been making this connection for the last few videos. It’s crazy how much the Bible refutes Islam before it even existed
Bismillah hir rahman nir raheem
Human Opinions Dont change Facts
Its not about Your point of view or A scholar Point of view.
Both can be wrong
i disagree on this video Entirely
Just because some scholar say that bible is corrupted and but still u need to trust it. You cant disapprove of the whole Islamic Concept.
Allah has discouraged us from reading the bible or any other holy book. But we need to believe that those are his words none the less.
“Every Muslim is required to believe in the Torah, Gospel and Zabur , and that they came from Allah. So he must believe that Allah sent down the Books to the Prophets , and that He sent to them scriptures that contained commands and prohibitions, exhortation and reminders, and spoke of matters of the past, of Paradise and Hell, and so on. But he should not follow them, because they have been affected by distortion, alterations and changes.
So he should not keep copies of the Torah, Gospel or Zabur, or read them , because this is dangerous, for he may end up disbelieving in something that is true or believing something that is false, because these books have been distorted and changed. "
It is just some Muslims disobeying Allah's Words that is The thing that you Told in this video.
Christians Believe in the fact there were god's messengers before Jesus For example in Moses and Noah what makes you say there will be no more. Our Quran has Said that there will be no messenger after Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
AS for your claim that Quran is the only one that hasnt change Its because of the fact Allah Himself Took Responsibility Of Quran. As for the other holy books they were in human hands. People Who say there are other Versions Of Quran are just translations and tafseer(explanations) however its clear proof bible has constantly changed.
As for your claim that Quran claims that Prophet muhammad(PBUH) is hiding in the bible.
We are taught that every Book contained signs of the final prophet some books containing hints while other containing descriptions. The only Reason Jews and Muslim are seperated is because of the fact they dont want to believe the fact that The last prophet wasnt from their tribe/family(bani israel). They Looked for him when he was born and found him and even went as far as to kill him. I do not have any proof except a fact that my teacher told me Prophet Muhammad [pbuh] was once on a trading journey when he was warned by a Christian Priest as they had spotted the signs that he should go home and Stay away from these areas containing jews who wanted to kill him
Bible was true in its Era But after Jesus Disappeared(went to heaven and is still alive waiting for The antichrist(dajjal to come)) People Began making changes in it. I don't know when .
Allah may not reveal everything Indeed Allah is The best of Planners and only he knows Everything.
Remember Quran is not the sole Book people rely on as Islam We also look at hadiths/messages of the Prophet(PBUH) to mark such things .
Just try Reading The Quran and the book of Hadiths Many People converted to Islam base on that.May God guide those who wanna be guided
May Allah forgive me if im mistaken in any of these Things and May God Have Mercy On Everyone when the time comes and May peace and Blessings of God be On You.
Side note: Ignore those muslims who Disrespect the bible and claim they have read the bible because Allah has forbidden both of those.
Edit: Muhammad [PBUH] was an illiterate Who didnt even know how to read and write. But Quran is perfect just search up Mathematical, Science Miracles of Islam. Also people sometime say that muhammad [pbuh] didnt know anything about the bible but there are stories of every prophet in Quran. Anyone up for a debate please msg me on discord aayansh
ah yes i read surah al kafirun im gud👍 yall will know at the day of judgement
Likewise heathen
Please keep these videos going bro!
Bruh , your whole argument are based on misunderstanding and cutting.
This doesn't make any sense , from 1:02
cutting what?
@@TestifyApologetics it is like an article that is related to each other but you cut the verses without understanding the concept or the situation.
Like an officer says " arrest the men "
Does he mean arrest all the men in the world ? Or the men which are committing a crime in a situation?
Please stop debunked verses like they are quotes .
Sometimes they are related to the verses before or after .
@@fbichaos7767 give an example from the video
@@terakoinfinity9523he didn't give the whole verse in 3:3-4
Here is the whole verse :
He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
BEFORE, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an. Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution.
Saw the word BEFORE ?
Also he is saying that the bible has been corrupted without debunking verses like
John 17:3
And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
Or Luke 18:18
And other and other that you can search online.
@@TestifyApologetics
He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
BEFORE, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an. Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution.
Saw the word BEFORE ?
Don't watch the video it's empty, just a teenager want to argue but has nothing to say ir no one to talk with
@@DaddyWasHere2 bro literally provided a evidence
@@harshmellow5103 he need to learn Arabic or at least ask a Muslims about his thoughts and then share in RUclips, because people who are looking for the truth work hard, he is just another hater
@@DaddyWasHere2why would he need to learn a language to give an opinion on a book or bring a random muslim into a Q and A just to show that he worked hard on this video when we can clearly see him taking the time to read a book that try’s to contradict the Bible and then says it can’t be contradicted
@@littleranger7854 if your opinion is negative and not helpful then don't share it you just want to hurt someone
@@DaddyWasHere2 you the one who said he was just a teenager with no one to talk with. And that he had nothing to say and didn’t put any work into his video but even tho he made a 9 minute video that he spent 1-2 days just to edit , come up with a script to say, find what he was going to talk about, and bring it all together for a video. Not only that if you don’t want anyone to argue back with you then don’t say anything at all. And the fact you even went the “ your opinion is negative so you should talk about it”. Rout even tho you started by insulting someone else and there video. And the only reason why you said my comment wasn’t helpful is because you just don’t want to here your wrong but can leave without the final say so instead of brining info you just sent the true empty comment that only talked about how your feeling got hurt
Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior
It isnt the eyes that are blind but the hearts.
Thanks Testify, This video exposes the willing ignorance of most muslims.
ignorance of most muslims? like the ignorance of you following the teachings and ravings of a mad man who “saw jesus” and didn’t even meet him?💀💀
Sad how gullible you are😭
Muhammed mentioned in the bible: Matthew 24:11, Matthew 7:15, Mark 13:22
the bible is full of references to him.
All of which are negative
@@georgewaddilove4891 so?
@@georgewaddilove4891 I think that was the point lol
All these muslims commenting that this proves nothing while not giving any explanation as to why besides just saying: "Ur sick and this sucks islam is real and not lies"
Exactly, they’re proving the video’s point
3:56
The Bible, Torah, and Gospel were changed due to:
1. Human Interference: Scribes and leaders made alterations to fit their views or agendas.
2. Translation Issues: Translations from Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek led to changes in meaning.
3. Lack of Preservation: Unlike the Quran, there was no divine guarantee to protect these scriptures from changes.
On the other hand, the Quran cannot be changed because:
1. Divine Protection: “Indeed, We revealed the Quran, and We will guard it.” (Quran 15:9)
2. Memorization: Millions have memorized it exactly, preserving its authenticity.
3. Original Arabic: It remains in its original language.
4. Widespread Copies: Identical copies exist globally, ensuring consistency.
May God have mercy on all Muslims, I wish them well and genuinely fear for their souls. Let us pray for them so they can seek God in his truth.
@@tuber420 no need all is well here
@@reemsaif3105I can assure that it most definitely is not
@@reemsaif3105 Still, my prayers for you,
maybe one day you'll turn to God, and accept Jesus as your savior.
Galatians 1:9 NIV
[9] As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
I like how the comment section looks
because it proves my point that 90% of the christians in the west or islamphobe and this makes me think
didn't your religion mention something about respecting other religions? or did one of your priests remove the verse talking about it as they do usually
But Islam can kill us and disrespect us your hypocrisy
@@GENERATIONALKINGS-rm6zt Bring me 1 verse that backs you up
plus most muslims are super religious so if this was true you wouldn't even be standing on your legs and typing this comment you would be dead
@@GENERATIONALKINGS-rm6zt Tbh i can speak like you i can say "Christians can kill us all check their bible and happened to the people of amalek!"
Even tho its missing context
@RedLarva.comment Thanks for that but i am good with islam plus that didn't answer my statement
"didn't your religion mention something about respecting other religions?"
Where exactly?
1:07 its becouse it was changed (the holly books bible and the jews book where true how ever they are changed) god knows the future the past and the present
One question
Did you ever read the Quran in the Arabic language
aint nobody got time for that
@@V01D_K1NG Then don't even dare criticize the Quran if you're not educated enough to know it's language
@V01D_K1NG (I'm a Muslim) then that just shows why you think the way you do about Islam I feel like we Muslims and Christians should actually learn more about each other's beliefs before arguing or making assumptions
Why does it matter, these translations aren’t far off
@@Shezan-kq4tlwatch the video 🤦🏾♂️😁
The muslims claimed they know about Jesus and the bible better than the "ignorant Christians" and yet they don't even look at their own religion. One of the Quranic verses said "there is no compulsion in religion" but they want sharia laws implemented. Just so you know they believe sharia laws came from God himself and one of its laws said that apostasy shall be punished with death. This law contradicts with the Quran itself where there is no compulsion in religion. Hence while muslims are saying that the bible and the torah are corrupted, they don't even know their "islamic" laws are manmade to the point it contradicts with their "contradictionless book".
Which software do you use for these types of presentations?
it's just canva
@@TestifyApologetics no canva, no lie
no lie, no testify
@@GoodMorning-b2wstop crying and try to refute him instead of making false allegations bout him😂
@@luciddreamer4954 bro.
as you might suspect, i'm muslim. and i just have faith in me.
there are many refutable claims. but i just have no time to address them. like why even bother.
i just stick to my faith. whether true or false. it doesn't hinder my personal growth or make me face any discrimination where i live.
i'm a woman btw. and if my life is good where i live, and my afterlife is potentially good. why waste time refuting such claims.
@@GoodMorning-b2wa female Muslim 😬
You are fully aware on what your book says about women, no? Either way, it is best to answer questions in your faith ALWAYS, every Christian questions their faith when they are presented with a counter argument, yet we always find a logical solution that doesn’t disprove us :] you ALWAYS gotta make sure that your life and actions are based on something substantial and credible
the islam doesnt say "the gospels are preserved", basically they got corrupted. iam not THAT informed but ill respond soon.
as a muslim, I respect all of your beliefs. But why are all the comments disrespecting Islam? Honestly, the tactic in these videos are “if you lose the argument, use the exact same argument again.”
I’m not even sure you read the Quran, because you don’t have much knowledge about it, and don’t explain much from it.
try actually reading the Quran and getting knowledge from Islamic scholars. Please don’t take offense from this comment, as I am not trying to offend you.
The Quran loses authenticity because it claims the Gospels as part of Allah’s revelations. It backs itself into a corner, and makes it so it can’t be correct. And you can’t make a claim that the Quran is referring to a different Gospel because there is no proof of an “original” Injil’s existence. Ergo, Islam debunked. We haven’t even touched the contradictions and scientific inaccuracies inside. And I wouldn’t be talking about being “respectful” from the religion whose primary method of spread was through conquest and colonialism.
@@TheTemplar168womp womp
Injeel ≠ christain gospel
@@BosniaWorldMappingso where is it? Did your god lose it?
@@BosniaWorldMappingso where is the proof of the original Injil’s existence outside the Quran and Muslim sources? Hm?
@@Glory_be_to_Christit’s corrupted by humans
Allah is reffering to the Quran only, the last and true book.
The Gospel and Torah are incomplete versions
which still has truth but are ultimately corrupted
The Quran was meant to be the only one uncorrupted 3:42
All of them were meant to be uncorrupted but the Quran which is the only one
which is truly uncorrupted
I will take you and raise you to Myself and clear you [of the forged statement that 'Isa (Jesus) is Allah's son] of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you (Monotheists, who worship none but Allah) superior to those who disbelieve [in the Oneness of Allah, or disbelieve in some of His Messengers
Surah 3:55
Who disbelieve in some of his messengers much to vague to only be pointed to Isa only and
nobody other than him and also it’s to purify of the forged statements of the Bible. In which would verify that
Isa would acttualy be correct until the day of the judgement 5:43
All of which mentioned already by the above 8:18
By the way one more thing if you want
people to join your religion or whatever your motive really is
I advise not to throw shade on other religions. It’s just very shady now
It’s okay if you don’t want to believe in any of that just seriously
stick to your own religion
After the Islam series can you do Mormonism
Eventually but not next
South park buried Mormon they even did a musical about it
I want a comparison video about Mormonism and Islam in general...lots of similarities yet one is heavily mocked while the other is not talked upon due to taboos (either fear for life or fear of cultural insensitivity).
Since it's prophet literally wrote 2 different book's saying 2 different things, shouldn't be too hard
@@TestifyApologetics if you do, could you not call it mormonism? we don't worship mormon
Syrah 6:115 cf18:27 applies to allah’s words of the quarn, NOT the gospels
Just, as an atheist, I’d like to correct a mistake of yours. 3:39 surah 6 verse 155 in the Quran does not talk about changing/ altering his words as in corrupting it. Looking at several Tafsir that are authentic and trusted sources (form ibn Kathir to Al Jalalayn) this verse it talking in the means of changing his last judgement. The Bible is not more trustworthy than the Quran. And it seems that you are making wrong statements in here.
“As someone with no interest in your hobby, I’d like to correct you on your hobby.” Makes all the sense.
@@MrAwesome457 oh darling, I’m an atheist extremely interested in theology, your statement is stupid. Also, hobby?
I said that I am an atheist to not appear as a Muslim trying to make this video sound wrong only because it doesn’t fit my views. This man did a mistake, and his point is built on it. So it’s necessary to correct him.
Thanks bro:D i was a muslim for 17 years but after watching this video,i went to pray zhuhur.
@@IjustateUranium-235 ignorance is not funny
So just a vid made you change ur mind how stupid is that
😂😂bruhhh u really got me Amma go pray tahajud
Its funny how your "book" is constantly being changed even though it is considered as "Gods Word".
Really? when was it changed and by whom and if so how has the message been changed?
@@TestifyApologetics Maybe by the 40 authors who create the new testaments to a "holy book" brought by "your god"
If a "holy book" has authors and isn't the word of god, what truth does it hold compared to that of a colouring book?
@@MonkeyMiguelthose 40 authors that lived hundreds of years apart all carry the same word
@@luis_villagomez than why are there different testimonies? Shouldn't the word of god not be changed once so ever? What is the point of an author if the word of god is true without any alterations?
Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:46): "And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel (Injeel), in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous."
So in a nutshell the Quran is basically saying "Trust me bro." right?
@@mozax8118 wath religion doesn't?
Isnt the bible the same?
@VexonEditz No not really actually
@@ThePresidentsSleepover could u please explain to me
@VexonEditz The bible is based on Eyewitness testimony, It is a compilation of the notes that the apostles and eyewitnesses and various Kings wrote down, It wasn't just written buy one guy saying that (This is Gods word, Trust me bro) Instead it is compiled of many individual writings by different people who talked to Jesus and saw Jesus, Who's story's, Even though aren't necessarily interlinked, tell about similar events that happened, Further solidifying it.
Muhammad just wrapped around all the religions he knew around himself and presented islam 💀
This muhamMAD didn't even exist. Islam is one big fat lie.
The claim that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) "wrapped all religions around himself" falls apart when examined critically. First, Muhammad was known to be illiterate, and religious scriptures like the Torah and Gospels were written in languages uncommon in Arabia (Hebrew, Greek, Syriac). These texts weren’t widely available and were closely guarded by religious elites. The idea that he could have accessed, understood, and synthesized these texts without formal training is implausible.
Second, oral teachings alone couldn’t convey the depth and intricacies of Judaism or Christianity. For example, complex laws in the Torah or the Trinity doctrine in Christianity couldn’t be fully grasped or reinterpreted from hearsay. Plus, the Qur'an often corrects misinterpretations of these traditions, which requires critical engagement, not just surface-level knowledge.
Finally, the Qur'an’s unique literary style, theological consistency, and profound impact make it stand apart. If Muhammad had simply copied or borrowed, why does the Qur'an remain distinct in content, addressing issues that earlier scriptures didn’t? Also, the Qur'an challenges skeptics to produce even a single chapter like it (2:23)-a challenge unmet to this day.
Claiming "plagiarism" ignores historical context and Muhammad’s (PBUH) lack of resources or training to achieve such a feat. Without evidence of access, mastery of languages, and synthesis skills, this claim doesn’t hold up.
@kaiox7039 this is an AI generated response and moreover muhammed used to travel with his merchant uncle abu talib and visit various places which may or may not have other religions as their prominently followed religion after his uncle's death he worked for and traveled with khadijah bint khuwaylid a businesswoman where she sent him to various places like syria and other countries so there's a very great chance that he had heard about other religions and how they worked and about their gods.
@@kaiox7039 don't lie
@@clashthesity No it is not an Ai generated response, it's a section of my rebuttal essay I wrote 2 years ago translated into english.
Your argument is heavily based on speculations rather then evidance. Your going to have to prove that he engaged in-depth theological discussions, studied scriptures, or stayed long enough to absorb the complexities of Judaism, Christianity, or other faiths.
People didn't have social media and the literacy rates was very low among every group of people. You're going to have to prove that Prophet muhammed understood aramic, hebrew and greek inorder to study and speak with rabbis and monks of those religions, and that he stayed long enough to learn it all since those travels only lasted 3-6 days.
Let's say that Prophet Muhammed did learn from monks and rabbis, but only through word of mouth. "the Qur'an contains detailed knowledge of religious stories and theological points that go beyond what a traveler might hear in passing. For instance, the Qur'an clarifies certain events in Jewish and Christian traditions that weren’t part of common oral narratives of the time."
Jesus' message was corrupted as soon as he ascended, eh? That means that "Allah" abandoned the Earth for 600 years for the luhls!
I know!! looks like allah was to busy getting a perm or buying a green suit
INCORRECT TRANSLATION of Surah 5:47 - It says "let the people of the Book/Torah judge what it reveals" ...the Jews. Not the people of the Gospel. As Jesus himself said, 'obey the dictates of who sits in Moses' seat. .. Salvation is of the Jews"
0:48 nah you lying, its says gospel(The injeel) not GOSPELS, the quran confirms that the single book injeel is the word of god but not your 4 gospels.
This is the weakest argument you can use yet everyone uses it
But the injeel…is…the gospels? They’re a telling of Jesus’s story from eyewitnesses…
@@Zarak-y1q so… he purposely let his message be lost. Doesn’t seem like something a smart god would do. If the injeel was destroyed, then what proof do we have that it was “drastically different” than the gospels? The gospels are eyewitness accounts, not a book that came 600 years later claiming something that was never even thought of.
@@Zarak-y1q so we have no idea what the injeel even said, yet you blindly follow the notion that it was lost and was different. How do we know that it is different from the gospels? “Because my book SAID SO” this is circular reasoning. The Quran invents the injeel out of nowhere to slander Christianity, even though there is no proof that early Christians truly had different ideas that were then lost. Every heresy in Christian history goes against the Bible.
@@Zarak-y1q this is a good argument! I’m really happy that even though I’ve been negative, you’ve been positive. I apologize for being Islamophobic, and I’ll try and present my arguments in a more Christian tone. My “counter” (kind of a cringy term tbh it’s just my opinion on your argument) is that even though scripture was canonized, there was a early centralized teaching, which was found in the 4 gospels. We had many manuscripts of these, leading to them becoming the most popular and authoritative gospels in the community. While the 12 didn’t “know” it to be scripture, Jesus knew what to preach and the disciples knew to spread his message, as he commanded them. The New Testament as a whole is a canon, yes, and these books, as well as being religious accounts, are also historical and hold up. They record meetings and councils between apostles and church members, leading to them being recognized as interconnected and, hence, part of the “canon”. The documents that compile the New Testament have evidence and proof of existence, while the injil (pardon me if I did not say this correctly) was claimed to be destroyed, leaving behind no evidence of its existence. Now, while absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence, I think that to claim its message was true, but was destroyed, seems to be a little bit of circular reasoning. “This happened because my book said so, but no one else did, but it’s true.” (Sorry, it’s a very crude depiction. I don’t want to be rude. I don’t know everything there is about the injil, please enlighten me!😊) While there are some hypothetical documents that the injil could have been, such as the “Q” accounts that mark and Matthew are based off of, if it were to be based off of Q, one would assume that they carry similar if not identical messages.
Sorry, this was long. If there’s anything, anything at all you don’t understand, I’ll try my best to respond in a timely manner!
@@Zarak-y1q you’re entirely correct! I hope we’ve come to a kind of agreement.
Can you make movie about Isaiah 53 ? We know that it’s talking about Jesus, but some people like Ehrman or Dan McClellan think’s that’ not.
Yep it's part of the plan. I have a long stream with Jonathan McLatchie were we go into it in depth just check the live tab but I'd like to do some short videos on it too.
If it's talking about JESUS, then the supernatural exists, then the Bible is true.
So it must not be prophesying anything
@@CosmicalChristOr the bible is true
The Satanic Verses are already damning enough.
5:00
The Quran was revealed for all of humanity, not just for Arabs or specific groups.
• “And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.” (Quran 21:107)
• “This is a clear book, a guidance for the people.” (Quran 3:138)
Y'all are so cute, the Torah and Bible were sent for specific people at a specific time, WAY befofe the quran was sent obviously, then after that the Quran came down, and it was the last book from God which was meant for ALL people forever, in the olden days people edited the Bible and Torah, which were originally similar to the Quran, but since the quran was for all of us, Allah guaranteed that itll be preserved and that no one will ever be able to edit the book..thats why they have many similarities! If some details were wrong tell me
Why? That makes no sense lol
@tomassmith1519 it does make sense, but maybe I worded it wrong, a 14 yr old isn't capable of explaining complex topics fluently
@@Heartale.o Not for that reason
@@tomassmith1519 okay
@tomassmith1519 I got this from google:
Christianity and Judaism are distorted and the original beliefs of those religions were same as Islam with only their practices being somewhat different
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Can't we just respect eachother's religions and what we believe in?
@@georgeorwellsghost3833 i respect christian but god being a human and come to earth to erase the sins ? like what ? god can never be human and he is way above our imagination .
ask yourself a question if jesus was god but in human form ? did he go to the toilet ? like can god actually be like that ? cmon man
@@sbaa33ii96 so you are saying what God can and not can? So u are thinking you know the limits of God? Christ is the King bro do u research.
If we dont the debate how can we convert others???
@@sbaa33ii96 How to you know what God can and cannot do? You cannot begin to grasp his true level.
Why god would need to talk to a guy in a cave to spread his word ? A guy than even can't read or write is the worts choice ever for that to.
The Injeel is what was revealed to Jesus by the angel Gabriel who was sent by God. The Bible was written by anonymous humans who apparently may have been eyewitnesses.
The Quran is what was revealed to Muhammad by the angel Gabriel who was sent by God. The Hadiths are written by companions of Muhammad.
The Hebrew Old Testament does in fact mention Muhammad by name “Muhammad’Im” while referring to a world peacemaker who will come after Jesus.
Now, aside from this…
Christian’s who have read the Quran, please tell me how u think it was possible for the Quran to contain such scientific and historic information, that was at least 1300 years ahead of its time as modern science and historians begin to discover more and more with technology and new research?
I’m talking about things that are not mentioned in the Bible, Torah or any historic text.
Not to mention, the accuracy within the Quran in terms of numerical miracles or ‘coincidences’ such as it including the words ‘angel’ and ‘devil’ the same number of times, or it mentioning the words “man” and “woman” both equally 23 times each - and if you double 23, you get 46, which is the same number of chromosomes within the human body (23 from the father and 23 from the mother).
Another example of this is the word ‘sea’ mentioned 71 times and the word ‘land’ mentioned 29 times - which coincidentally (or not so coincidentally) shows the modern scientifically approved ratio of land to sea on earth 🌍
Allhamdulilah Islam is the truth
I have read many religious text and islam for me is like the most obvious false religion
When i read bible and quran i believe maybe bible is right, or both are wrong
Quran would never be true
Still it is only for me
Care to elaborate why?
The bible:
how old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26). (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2).
and How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8). (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9).
and Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24:1) (b) Satan did (1 Chronicles 21:1)
...
even contradicting the main purpose of human life in earth (in the bible) like "God won’t punish people for the sins of their fathers: Ezekiel 18:20" yet they've been punished, and even god had to kill "his son" (in the orthodox logic) or "him self" (in the catholic trinity logic) FOR the people because of adam's sin.
or even contradicting the entire logic of that religion, like (in the orthodox blief) they say that God the almighty the only one and the creator of every star and the entire universe and every living being and everything, the one who he has no one like him, "had a son" and did not create Jesus (peace and blessings be upon him) and became the biological father of that human with a human (this just shows the ignorance and the fairy tails of mankind imaginations by human's simple knowledge and classic desires) and that makes Jesus according to them a god, wich even contradicts stuff like how can a god eat, drink, sleep, go to the toilet...
so its clear if it is not corruption its misinterpretion from translating the bible from hebrew to english like "Son" being a metaphorical son of god or a servant of god
//WICH IS DAAY CLEAR IN VERSES LIKE :
David and His Descendants (Psalm 2:7) :
"I will tell of the decree: The Lord said to me, 'You are my son; today I have begotten you.'"
Solomon (2 Samuel 7:14) :
"I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son."
Isreal (Exodus 4:22) :"Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son.’"
Jesus’ Followers (John 1:12)
"But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God."
//so is everyone the Children of your God ??
and (in the catholic blief) they say that jesus is the god and the god is the spirit, wich is just throwing everything in the bible upside down, so how can God prostrate to his GOD ("father") ??
like in
Luke 22:41-42: (EVEN ON Matthew 26:39 and Mark 14:35)
"And he withdrew from them about a stone's throw, and KNELT down and PRAYED, saying, 'Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my WILL, but yours, be done.'"
and how did GOD Say that That The god is GREATER than him:
John 14:28: "the Father is greater than I"
and EVEN CALLING for the God : Matthew 27:46:
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, 'Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?' that is, 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?'"
So are you gonna be like the stubborn type of human beings or you gonna try finding the truth ?
If you are looking for the truth I highly advise you to see videos of "The muslim lantern" or "One dawha foundation" if you want to see debates between muslims and different group of people including christians, and Debunking every funny full of lies or ignorance claims like in this video,
Look at the more loving man and follow him, his name is Jesus
yes, Jesus was man and man only
@@trendy6822wrong.
Your whole video is full of claims that you clearly misundertood and you are talking about them with such confidence as if you have studied Islam far more than enough. Be honest with yourself
Bro, save your patronizing and disingenuous pity and tell me where I'm wrong
@@rrusstafari exactly , but i doubt he will answer u but i hope he read it at least , may allah guide him to the truth
@@sbaa33ii96 Ameen
FINALLY
@@rrusstafari then show us where is this original gospel, you can't claim something without backing it up. Dead sea scrolls exist you know so we know the Books of the Bible were the same before Muhammad even existed