MILWAUKEE TOOL and DeWALT Put Flex IN THEIR PLACE!
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- After the Flex Faceoff Round 2 we had so many questions about the way testing was conducted we new we needed to test Flex’s deceptive comparison methods! Flex decided to go full frontal by leaving the competing brands of tools, Milwaukee, Dewalt and even Makita unpainted in all their glory for viewers to see during the tool comparisons. Some viewers of the Flex faceoff did some digging and found out that the contractors running the test had been on various television shows as well as modeled for other tool manufacturers. We attempted to re-create the testing apparatus used to test and compare Impact drivers. We prepared the impact drivers that would be used in the testing which included the Flex 1/4" QUICK EJECT HEX IMPACT DRIVER WITH MULTI-MODE STACKED-LITHIUM KIT (FX1371A-1H) , Milwaukee tool M18 FUEL 1/4" Hex Impact Driver (2853-20) ran with their M18 18-Volt Lithium-Ion High Output 6.0Ah Battery Pack, and Dewalt 20-Volt MAX XR Cordless Brushless 3-Speed 1/4 in. Impact Driver, DCF840B 20V MAX 1/4 -in. Brushless Cordless Impact Driver, ATOMIC 20-Volt MAX Cordless Brushless Compact 1/4 in. Impact Driver (DCF850B). All Dewalt Impact Drivers were ran with both the 20-Volt MAX XR Premium Lithium-Ion 6.0Ah Battery Pack as well as their brand new 20-Volt MAX POWERSTACK Compact Battery (DCBP034). In this video we run multiple comparison tool tests to give you the best results, allowing tradespeople and contractors the information to make an informed decision. Dewalt and Milwaukee Tool put Flex in their place!
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This is exactly what i use my impact for. Thanks for such real world testing
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@@1x4x93 lolol 😂
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I walk into the gym with my tool bag and say "work smarter, not harder boys" but then the lunk alarm goes off.
Next time your hauling stuff to the second floor then just rig this up easy lifting 🤣
Reverse engineering the test rig just by watching a video of the original test is more impressive than all three impacts combined
Thanks Clint, appreciate that! Had a lot of fun making the rig and video!
And that's why we all do what we do isn't it? I'm not saying anything negative sir's, please don't mistake this. But I saw the test and had no problem with immediately making a rig that would be similar enough to do the job in my head. Some people use language, some people kill it at math and science, and some people have this kind of brain.....it's cool as shit how diverse we all are.
Using this this test to compare there is a clear winner. I would have liked to see all three impacts turning a different wheel each test. Thanks guys for the great videos!
Or better yet, like they do on other channels, have a machine run the tool. That way, there is no human factor in it.
I just got on a cordless platform for the first time ever just 2 years ago, I didn't even pay attention to anything else but Dewalt and Milwaukee, it was close but I went Dewalt, and love it.
I think Vince hit the nail on the head- the real benefit of these new batteries will be with larger tools. All these impacts are starting to hit the point where they can outperform the bits/fasteners themselves. Pretty cool day in age for construction tools though!
Honestly, watched a lot of your videos, this is one is hands down the best. Love the build effort!
Thanks Sam we appreciate it!
I work for a tool company as a test engineer to develop these types of tests. This test does not seem to test how an impact driver actually performs. It seems more of a simple “who has a higher rpm output” than it has to do with the more important “how quickly does it build torque”
So does the flex ad use the right test or are they both just testing rpm
i believe you're misunderstanding what this test really show in the end. RPM is one thing and power is another. This test showed POWER not RPM. To put it so you can understand, it doesn't matter how high your RPM is if you lack the power to make use of that RPM. RPM is nothing without Power. You can clearly see in the video what I mean. When they increased the weight there was only one drill in the end that had the POWER to lift that weight. Dewalt was lacking Power and was smoked by both Milwaukee and Flex in many attempts with Flex ultimately beating Milwaukee at the end.
Many tests online show Dewalt with the powerstack bat smoking everything on the market because of its high RPM. Screws and small bolts in particular. But history shows that both Milwaukee and Dewalt (top dogs in the industry) heat up and brake very often when put against much heavier duty projects. And I have experience with both including Makita. I was replacing my Milwaukee impacts twice a year, Dewalt more often. Makita is still running like brand new since 3 years ago. Same set. Never replaced once.
@@alexmayer8943 lol 😂 what are you doing where you are replacing your impact several times a year? I have 2 Milwaukees I’ve had for at least 5 years, 2 dewalts Iva had for 2 years. (Makita sucks and it’s proven online over and over again they are not as good) and Hilti I’ve had for about about a year Hilti is BY FAR way better than dewalt or Milwaukee. And makita isn’t even in the conversation. You can find at least 30 unbiased videos online showing red and yellows superiority over makita.
@@alexmayer8943 Then why did the dewalt break the adapter bits even just trying to lift the weights a foot? Does that not imply it actually produced more torque? The others didn't engage their impact hammers, and would have made significant counter torque on the wrist while lifting the weights, which is what an impact driver is made to avoid. If you want to know power it would be more useful to actually rig it to a dynamometer. Or measure current consumed from the battery.
All of that is irrelevant to the purpose of the tool though: that being imparting some torque on some fasteners. Drive some frigging screws FFS. Measure the results with as much consistency and repeatability as possible. Anything else is just showmanship. Any idiot can design a machine which excels in a useless edge case, more so if they design the test to prove it.
RPM and torque 👌
So, my input on this. I've never used a flex tool, but Milwaukee tools just have a great balance to them, excellent hand feel and build up to full torque. I'm a carpenter and most of the time I don't need a crap ton of torque. Think cabinet hinge screws or mortise threads in a knock down jamb. Thats why no one will ever beat Milwaukee for me. Dewalt is right there too.
You can build the same rig all day long Vance, but still wouldn't be the same with Sham Wow's great uncle in the vid
We asked you to show up but you declined!
Barnabie! I only watch those infomercials cuz of step daddy sham wow Well now also for Mr Gum
Hilarious
whaaa
Toolies no like sham wow!!!!!!
This is why we need independent garage testing like this and Project Farm. You can't trust all that marketing BS you receive from these customers. Testing like this tells you exactly what's real and what's not. Edit to add that Flex driver is a torque monster!
Well there's nothing you can do about that dude. Because Flex beaten DeWalt, Makita, Bosch and Flex beaten and destroyed the king of tools the Milwaukee. Flex is now the new successor of the throne 👑. The new King!
Who can’t wait to see what MILWAUKEE Is going to bring out next to respond to this competition? I mean, we all have eyes. Flex tools are definitely killin it. I’ll be the 1st one to admit. At the end of the day, everyone has the God given right to spend their money on whatever they choose. To each his own, or her own. Appreciate you guys taking the time and money to build this setup. Great job fellas
Thanks Impact, I had a ton of fun building the rig and making this video! I think we’ll most likely see the new DeWalt XR impact before we see a gen4.
@@VCGConstruction you don't think Milwaukee will come out with a stacked lithium before a gen 4?
Yeah the will go to 24v and all them 18v tools everybody collected will be old and everyone will have to start all over again in collecting 24v tools 😆
@@my2cents187 I hope not my man🤣🤣🤣
I 2nd this comment thanks
Thanks Vince! appreciate your time and effort to get to the bottom of this.
Thanks Kermal!
Thanks Vince. Great show!!!
I've been using power tool most of my life (I'm mid fifties). I've used air tools, corded tools and cordless tools. I've done carpentry, construction and many different types mechanical work, but I've never used an impact driver (or any other tool) to pull weights up with a rope. If your job requires you to pull weights with a rope using an impact driver, buy the flex, I'll stick with my tried and true and reliable milwaukee, been using Milwaukee tools since 09 when they came out with the m18 line and been very satisfied.
Little tip for you Vince, you give so much so thought i'd send one in. When cutting rope, wrap it with electrician's tape first then cut through he tape with a sharp knife. Helps stop frayed ends 🤙
Good idea thanks! 👍🏻
Well it’s good to know the Flex Impact Driver makes the best winch…
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That was really cool !!!!!! Thanks Vince !!!!
Thanks Stephen, I had a ton of fun making this one! 👍🏻
This right here is the reason I am happy to be a VCG member. Badass.
Thanks Joshua, we appreciate you!
This was awesome thanks for actually building this thing I have all Milwaukee tools and i bought the flex quick eject impact driver last week and so far i really like it.
Thanks Nick I really enjoyed making this video!
Wow.....I'm pleasantly surprised. Still not enough tools in the line to make the switch yet , but new tech is coming from all companies so time will tell.
Cool test. Unexpected results.. I'd like to see a competition involving a wider array of tool brands. I'd be curious to see how Makita, Metabo, Ridgid, and so on, would perform in this test.
We can do that
@@VCGConstruction I need to see the xtr, been considering one for about a month. Need something that really makes power, but can be toned down to do drywall, particle board, etc. The Dyno channel put the flex, Milwaukee and xtr against each other and the xtr was still making power at the time cutoff while others had flattened.
I agree 100 percent
Makita would probably lose rigid with most likely lose and metabo would either break even or win
@@feliciasbeard XTR is awesome. I'm convinced that FLEX impact and probably hammer drill is just an overclocked version of the XTR with more voltage sent to the motor. This would make sense as FLEX has the bigger batteries and a lot of people have been reporting heat issues. IF that's the case, then the XTR is going to last longer than the FLEX. I've always been a fan of Kobalt and their XTR line in particular, so I was really optimistic about FLEX. I almost pulled the trigger on the $500 set when I was looking for a new battery platform since Kobalt seems to be pretty stagnant, but the heat issues and reports of tools leaking oil this early on just made me think that FLEX won't be nearly as durable as the other big names, even if they outperform them out the gate. I ended up going with Ridgid just because they've been clearancing their octane line up recently. I can't really justify Milwaukee or even FLEX prices for what I use them for. I really wish they would have just expanded the XTR line up instead of trying to create a whole new line of power tools from the ground up that are pretty clearly just grey Kobalt with more voltage. I guess Kobalt just has the "Lowe's Ryobi" reputation and they can't shake it even though they're some of the best tools I've used so they decided to rebrand.
I’ve been watching your channel for a few months now and I’m just impressed at the knowledge you have and how you really go out of your way to make sure the viewer and potential buyer of a product gets the info they won’t necessarily find themselves. It’s a shame you live in Philly and not closer. I live in Pittsburgh and I actually work in hardware at my local Home Depot and it would awesome to meet you all if you ever come out this way.
I’m sure our paths will cross at some point my friend! 👍🏻
Man I was watching this like a sporting event! Great video!
Thanks for doing this. As they say in PA, Yin's did a good job. I never would have thought that pulley rig would snap bits and I don't understand why DeWalt stayed so significantly in 3rd place or failed to execute. Fortunately I have real world job site experience to compare to this simulation. I'm also happy for Lowe's that they got a good product with Chervon's Flex.
Right on
I have a flex drill and it's unbelievable. I love this drill. Tough as nails and man can it work. Highly praised but only time will tell if it lasts.
Does it feel excessively heavy or bulky?
@@runryerun8789Not at all. I'll still waiting for that lightweight drill that has power like this - obviously in my dreams.
@@runryerun8789 I didn't have a problem with it actually. So far so good.
As far as the flex impact driver goes, the battery foot to handle can get messed up with heavy use. Hopefully its just an anomaly
@@JackKirbyFan I use the dcf 850and love it in hvac. But the flex tools are eye catching whenever I see them
The only test that matters: how red is it, and does it have a cool lightning bolt on it
Looks at Bauer tools from Harbor Freight
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Lol facts...
I know Dewalt failed miserably compared but I like the way they feel, they're cheaper than Milwaukee, and honestly i only build office furniture so it's not like I need the most powerful... compact and light is usually what I aim for. Just got the xtreme set for office desks and small stuff. Nifty lil guy.
This test proved nothing in my mind, but I can tell you this. Milwaukee and Dewalt make great tools (I'll add ridgid, makita to the list) with good support, you can go to any major store and get a battery or a tool, the tools last forever and the battery's will be supported forever. Can anyone say that any flex??? As a milwaukee guy, I would take any platform except flex
Thank you for the comparison.
Thanks Ron!
Awesome video VCG!
Thanks Banger!
Love the videos Vince! I put a lot of stock in your tool reviews. Keep ‘em coming!
The FLEX seems incredibly strong. As we saw, they are all more powerful than the 1/4" interface. You don't need to take a muscle car to get groceries. Imagine what all that power would do to a T20 bit. These new impact drivers have surpassed what the fasteners and bits can handle. I'd be more concerned with vibration, weight, noise, warranty, and cost. Raw power is only one metric.
Sounds like a Milwaukee fan that just got beat
@@boosted2.4_sky I won't deny that I'm a Milwaukee fan. Do you think FLEX will offer a comprehensive line of yard tools and mechanic tools along with their current offerings? Do they have a five-year warranty and reputation for good service? These drag races are ridiculous. Project Farm's tests kick the crap out of these sorts of videos. He will drive 100 screws (something far more practical) instead of lifting weights or racing to drive one 8" lag screw. I look forward to seeing if FLEX are still relevant in ten years. Another solid competitor in the game would be a good thing, but I don't think raw power for 1/4" drivers is a reason for choosing one manufacturer over another.
@@ions82 they will offera largetoolline... they do have a lifetime currently.. and do offer a five year. They are a direct competitor to Milwaukee and have been around for over 20 years... they developed the battery technology that everyone uses... and they created the "stacked " technology that Dewalt is using... they're a serious competitor.....
@@boosted2.4_sky Interesting history. I was under the impression that FLEX was brought about to replace Kobalt stuff at Lowe's. Most batteries use 18650 or 22700 cells. Looks like FLEX is running lithium-polymer (way more powerful but also way more volatile.). Those stacked batteries have the potential to run much bigger stuff. Here's to hoping that FLEX sticks around and greatly expands their line-up. Milwaukee stuff is great, but I bet they start slipping in quality and depending more on brand reputation. Corners will be cut to increase profit margin, and that never ends well.
Exactly
Good video. I’ve been looking at the Flex products because I saw ads and THEN saw your videos about them soon right after.
Thanks vcg I appreciate your recreation because I trust yours I didn't trust theirs.
Thanks Jason, I had a ton of fun making this one!
Bravo!! Initiative like that is why your channel is my choice for reviews, and merits my subscription.
I've been waiting for this one! Flex look legit!
I remember how excited Vince got for that test during the V.C.G. watch party. Glad you got to replicate and give it a try. I just picked up a Dewalt bare tool that came with the free stacked battery pack instead of investing in one of those new FLEX stacked batteries. Apparently I chose poorly.
Good stuff V.C.G. team. Thanks for bringing us great tool content.
I don’t think you chose poorly at all especially if it suits your purpose of use! Thanks Kyle.
A few percentage points of difference one way or another isn’t significant .. All the big tool makers make quality tools
I came in the sheet metal game with a 12v Milwaukee that held up for years. I've recently transitioned from Kobalt to Flex due to some of the content up here and because I don't have to go far into personalizing my tools since I'm the one on the site with the brand. I say all that to say that the Flex impact is the most powerful sumbitch I've had the pleasure of working with thus far and the sawzall is phenomenal. Excited to see what they come with in the future!
Flex is a great tool company albeit a little late to the cordless game. Two strikes against them are, 1. I'm not gonna change battery platforms, and 2. the simply don't have the variety of tools that Milwaukee and Dewalt have... Yet.
Great test rig Vincent. Looks like a south Philly rig job (Joke). I run a 3 Amp hour in my impact m18 fuel But I don't use my m18 fuel that often. I use my m12 fuel impact alot more/ everyday.... I first got m12 I thought.... what a nice little toy. I was wrong. I love it.
The power, I'll definitely be buying a Flex when I have the chance 👌
Dewalt 850 showed it's true colors here. I like my 887 and m18 fuel impacts.
Seems that Flex doesn't sell tool only right now? You have to buy batteries with each of their tools?
Setting the story straight as usual!
We hug and fun doing it Max!
@@VCGConstruction I love these types of tests! They really silence the doubters as they are super visual. I was surprised the Milwaukee was so much better than the Dewalt
I'll be honest. I'm not interested in this in the least. But your clickbait title combined with your captivating intro, got me hooked and i watched the whole thing 😂 i like these kinds of tests so maybe I'm biased, but you're doing a great job with these videos
Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
Only part way through the video: This is my favorite video that they've done so far. Way to go VCG. FWIW, I'm a DeWalt fanboy, I used their drill, and impact driver for ten years of serious apartment renovations including building more than ten showers, and they are still going for use in my retirement DIY projects. I know Milwakukee usually edges out DeWalt on most of the performance testing but both brands are a no risk choice IMO. So let's see what happens.
ETA: Congratulations to Flex, but the test is not optimal for impact drivers. A drill/driver might do much better on a test like this. A better comparison test for impact drivers is one that involves driving screws that are four inches or less.
Im 99% sure flex do the test like that so everyone start to test it = free advertisement xD
Why does Makita always get treated like a redheaded stepchild? Where is Makita? This Pseudo-Flex rig will come in handy on many test in the future! 👍
We wanted to recreate the testing during face off but I’d run the Makita in a different video!
I forgot, Makita was in the testing. They were the adapters we used! 🤣
@@VCGConstruction lol 😆 maybe next round?
Please test makita
Do you guys really want to see them get there ass kicked
I'm most impressed that you tied a knot with gloves on so easily 😅🤣
Hey Vince VCG! 🏆👍 This is the kind of test that I really wanted to see! And you guys did it! FAIR, SQUARE AND EVEN! NO BULLSHIT! this is the test that are so much better that your Tool Test Review or TTR or something on your channel. NOT like what I'm seeing on other RUclips tool reviewers they are cheating on their test and being Biased. In your test it's all Unbiased, Fair and Square. Keep it up Vince! 👍
Dewalt should use the lights on the front of their drivers to indicate whether its driving plumb into the hole, if its off plumb the lights blink till its straight.
Accelerometer in a shock proof housing at the back of the driver head wired into the lights.
Great video everyone!
Thanks King we appreciate it! 👍🏻
Great job on this one father you are sure making our family proud! 🥲
Thank you son, I do it all for you and Mom
Real people in the field know what's up. Simple as that. I definitely can't do my job with only a drill and an impact driver. How about a plumber? An electrician? Hvac tech or an installer? FYI you will drive yourself insane grabbing each different battery off of each different charger before work. Do it in reverse at the end of each day.
Bottom line, purchase the platform that works for needs all around. I'm happy with the choice.
You won’t get an argument from me Ed, they definitely need to build out their platform!
@@VCGConstruction And... Have it be proven. That's gonna take a little time. Honestly, I haven't seen anything SUPER groundbreaking come out in a while. It would take a lot to make me switch platforms... Both mentally and FINANCIALLY!!! There are people with more, I have more than I use regularly. I never had to have the "newest" growing up. I still don't feel that way now. I look at some new vehicles... The first thing that goes through my mind is "how much is that going to cost when it breaks and it doesn't look like something me or any of my friends are going to figure out. You could still basic stuff a vehicle even from the early 2000s. Not sure much anymore. Same with tools. I have great Red stuff... but I don't need my phone to hook up to my tools. Long story short, the bar has been set and over the last 5 years everyone else has been chasing it in the battery powered tool industry.
@@edpoints1127 that's the one thing I've noticed is that my orange collection gen 5X does everything I ask them to without putting up much of an argument if any at all and the new generations of tools regardless of what platform you're on do the same tasks faster but not innovatively so or in a revolutionary way to justify the upgrade costs. The problem with flex is they're coming out with tools that every other brand already has you're not going to get most people to switch platforms it's not going to happen. They're made by the same company that makes Cobalt for Lowe's you think they would have had the access to the r&d department to start with an expansive lineup at launch then you might entice some people. But if you're on the M18 platform there's no need to switch you have access on the M18 platform for much broader spectrum of tools to get tasks done that a lot of these newcomers don't have at launch. So being half full second longer to raise the weights up who cares. There's been too many heat issues reported with flex tools for me to even consider them.
@@Techprep23 but they have to come out with the same tools. To compete they need the same core tools like all the platforms have. Then they should release tools that are unique to each trade
Love it I hope RUclips takes care of Ya’s
Thanks Brian!
Dealer available. Flex is at Lowes. Milwaukee and Dewalt is at every supply house and big box stores. Will stick to my Red and yellow tools.
Great job on the test guys! Beautiful construction!!!
Yeah seems to be a Lowes and Chervon only thing. Got curious as I have heard absolutely nothing about Flex coming our with a new line. Was also weird seeing Flex tools in that colour instead of red. Turned out there was a reason for it. Seems to be nice tools though.
Can't wait for a fair hammer drill test Vince! The guy running flex in the flex video looked like the only one putting his weight into it
Flex is the new man in town im going to go buy all flex tools from now on Milwaukee got put in its place.
I personally like/use Milwaukee and makita but I think flex is looking like a pretty promising brand for people. Performance doesn’t seem to be an issue and they are a little new to the scene but as long as they can hold up over time I think it’ll hold a spot with the top brands
I have invested too much in too Milwaukee to change . Sorry flex . Thanks for the video VCG!
i am a dewalt guy my buddy is a Milwaukie guy.. no doudt his impact kicks my dewalts behind but at the end of the day i feel that some of the milwaukie tools feel like trash... the handles arent comfortable at all on the oscillating saw and their jig saw for instance... if the tool feels like crap in your hand its just not worth it
💯 Agree. M18 feel cheap in the hand, like oversized Ryobi. M12 platform is nice, I think that's the only reason to go Milwaukee
Vince we need an old school TTR live with these Flex tools bro.
After watching a few runs on the first series, I noticed that Vince was pulling the trigger a fraction of a second BEFORE "go" was said....just anticipation of going more than actually beating the Milwaukee, because the Big Red one actually kept up with or beat the Flex in almost every round.
Go Vince!
Can't believe I missed this one
great test thanks. i smeeshed the like button 7 years good luck.
Thanks Chris, we appreciate it!
FLEX one, just like the Recip saw the FLEX is a beast !
That recip saw is a monster!
For contractors, I can see wanted the speed to be as fast as possible. I have all my tools for my personal projects. Many times I do projects out of enjoyment, so I’m not worried about getting done as fast as possible. I go for capability, reliability, and comfort. I’ve stuck with Milwaukee because that’s what I started with. Luckily they’ve always been reliable.
Same…I’ve done the same with DeWalt. Haven’t had a single tool break so far and they all work for the job they’re designed to do. Most of the big brands are excellent tools and these tests have next to no practical application. Even for contractors, I can’t even see that these differences have much, if any, real life impact. For low end tools, you might. But these are all high end tools, so they all perform very well.
Yo cuzzo, I appreciate the effort your channel goes to. Recreating the test with actual tradesmen instead of paid shills lends some legitimacy to the tests done.
Thanks FyrFytr
Great video as always. The one thing I'd suggest when doing tests like these is passing the tools around to remove the "man" and the test bench out of the equation. Like every 2 tests, swap the tools among yourselves.
Good test, although really liked to have seen different operators and testing stations are used. Other than that, nice win for flex.
Thank you for your work setting up a rig and doing a honest test. I do think that you should have moved the drivers around on the rig to make sure everything is even and fair and there are no variables.
Super impressive reverse engineering skills!!
Thanks hills, we appreciate that!
Many tests online show Dewalt with the powerstack bat smoking everything on the market because of its high RPM. Screws and small bolts in particular. But history shows that both Milwaukee and Dewalt (top dogs in the industry) heat up and brake very often when put against much heavier duty projects. And I have experience with both including Makita. I was replacing my Milwaukee impacts twice a year, Dewalt more often. Makita is still running like brand new since 3 years ago. Same set. Never replaced once.
Y’all always have the best content @vcgconstruction. Loved this video too! Idk why but I love Mikey lol (he’s almost as cool as Vince) but Mikey makes me laugh. Dude is goofy in a good way, very likeable. Thanks for the upload and awesome test! I know this took a lot of effort so you better believe I smashed that like button!!! I will say I would like to see the m12 stuff included more. It obviously wouldn’t beat the m12 or flex but it would be really interesting to see how it stacked up, especially to the dewalt. I love my m12 stuff because it has 80-90% the power and runtime of m18 but it’s usually a fraction the size and weight
Thank you Clone we appreciate everything! It was alot of effort and expense to recreate the test but I had a ton of fun making this one!
You da man Vince! Always debunking the conspiracies.
Thanks Azhar!
luckily the test is done enough times and results are clear enough to rule out human error of delayed trigger pull. Would have liked to see a test like this live in which the tools are also used on different testing stations to rule out the "faulty construction" excuse on one testing spot.
Not necessarily because they never switched user. Although i still believe 24 volt power with the lithium pouch batteries are unmatched
Cool. It would have been nicer to see each tool used on each of the test devices to eliminate the variables between them.
Yo Vince! Great video and great build! 💯 Question, with the FLEX having it's 3.5ah battery, Dewalt 887 with the Power Stack, and the m18 FUEL with a high output 3.0ah, what are the weight differences? I think the biggest drawback of FLEX could be the weight of their tools. I could be wrong. Just curious. Thank you and God bless! 😁👍✌
P.S. No outro? Aw man.😉
I can weigh them up, and thanks for watching till the end Dave! 👍🏻
You have to admit Milwaukee still does well for an old boy
Absolutely!
Facts...
Thx for all the hard work. Agree with others the real winners in this test are VCG going through the effort to reverse engineer and build the test rig. Goes to show that even though the flex infomercial is corny it doesn’t mean they cheated. At least on this particular test. ;)
We appreciate the compliment! I’m curious, what did you find most corny about the face off? Did it run you the wrong way Dan?
Maybe flex will take notes!
I worked at Lowe’s and they put a brushless Flex impact driver against a Milwaukee brushed impact driver. I just laughed because the Milwaukee won two out of five tryouts.
And the Flex weighs twice as much.
Highly doubt
Yeah but which flex impact? The lower end one or the bl powerful one with collet quick eject
I'm super impressed with FLEX!
First I wanna say all these brands have amazing tools, but me personally I have Flex's Hammer Drill, Angle Grinder and the in-line Saw. I haven't seen any other brand outperform them.
The torque from the Gen 3 almost threw the weight through the roof🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💪💪💪
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Now to see if they withstand putting in thousand screws 5 days a week for 4 years minimum being dropped being exposed to lots of dust and if the battery still holds up after all that
Project Farm would be proud of you guys.
Meh. Companies will always build tests rig that highlight perceived strengths. I've never used my impact to roll up a weight. The real test is longevity and real world use. I appreciate the work that went into this to entertain us for a few minutes though.
Hey, what do you think about the 20v 8/10ah vs 9ah flexvolt battery? Which delivers more power to 20V/FVA?
Vince, I think you should stick a rubber band on opposite so the higher the weigh goes it pulls to the rubber more. This comment doesn’t mean that I don’t like your videos. I love your videos.
As someone who’s really smaat and can type “amp hour explained” into a search bar: “the amount of energy charge in a battery that enable 1 ampere of current to flow for 1 hour”. So in other words it’s a measure of how long a battery will last not how much power it has. For that you’ll want to look at the voltage. Think 12v verses 20v
Im more suprised that you guys didnt switch spots.
Thank you for doing a fair demonstration Vince and taking the time and money to build the set. (Plywood is not cheap) On flex's video you can clearly tell those guys have never held a impact gun. Which led me to believe flex fixed there demonstration but you proved me wrong. Good video!!!
Thanks Dustin we appreciate that! We want to make sure the brands are keeping everything above board! 👍🏻
Played out pretty much the way I expected.....Flex would come out ahead...DeWalt dead last, yet ironically the DeWalt is getting it done everyday on jobsites around the world. Is it impressive that the Flex has that much apparent torque? Absolutely! Is that particular Flex 1/4" impact driver really useful on a typical jobsite? To each there own, but if I'm driving timber screws or big lags I'm using mid torque Milwaukee and DeWalt impact wrenches with heavy duty anvil assemblies that don't routinely snap like the drive adapters, and which I expect will eat that Flex for lunch. I'll probably buy a Flex 1/4 impact for shits and grins and it's good to see some competition for Milwaukee, Makita, and DeWalt. It will force them to up their games...especially DeWalt.
As someone who bought a flex impact because of the infomercial. It does not outperform milwaukee. Out of the box for maybe a week it did. But either the tool itself or the battery diminished so quickly. You're money is better spent on Milwaukee
I replaced my DeWalt tools with Flex and haven't regretted it for a second. I'm looking forward to replacing more and more until there is no yellow left in my truck. I'm really impressed with Flex. It's not only about performance but also about longevity.
Everyone has their own opinions and biases about these tools, even in RUclips videos that claim they don't.
Lol Nice Caption Vince I didn't know they were paid actors until Philly Fixed posts the video one of the guys was a reality TV show guy🤦🏾♂️
Yeah, I saw Clarks social media post putting it on blast! 🤣🤣
I’m bringing my Flex to the gym next time and let that one do the weight lifting.
I think I was most impressed with the Actors in the FLEX marketing video - Made me wanna stay with Milwauk-eye-ayy!
could you try this same test, but change the dewalt impact out for the dcf 885??. just wondering what would happen.
It's hard to tell if the Flex was actually any faster than the Milwaukee simply because they were pretty close and the difference could be attributed to the operator reaction time pulling the trigger, or even the travel distance of the trigger.
That being said assuming the driver can lift the weight the higher rpm tool would have the advantage when being used as a "winch". Because the test is after all a speed test. But I'm not sure how this test translates into an actual advantage doing real work on the job.
that was the first thing i noticed too haha the rounds M18/flex won really seemed like the operator just had better reflexes to hearing "go".
if you watch them pulling the trigger on the countdown you can call who would win each round easy.
@@gamefreak22574 well go tell that to the tool reviewers who are driving 12 inch lag bolts into the log 🪵. Especially Man Caver Tools I do not know IF one of his lag bolts are coated with lubricants to make it more faster than the other or IF there's a pilot hole while the other don't. This VCG test is well built I trust their test and review well better than the Covid PCR test.