"The NBA Is a Sh*t Product!" - Michael Jordan Is Smart To Sell The Hornets
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2023
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What are your thoughts about Michel Jordan's decision?
She's right
@@snaker9er you mean he right that’s goat
@@snaker9er W lol
The NBA is horrible, The fouls make it almost impossible to watch
Although he knows Republicans buy shoes they don’t buy Woke basketball 😂
Pat's not completely wrong. I was hyped to watch the Nuggets vs 76ers game yesterday, but when I saw Joel wasn't playing, I lost 100% of my interest.
A decision that will and should cost him MVP this season.
@@joshido7352 for not playing in one game? So the other 81 games don’t matter?
@@jchd3108 I wish Joel played 81 games lol
They do matter but Joel could’ve rested on the back to back a few days ago but chose to rest for this game. Kinda sus, looks like he’s duckin Jokic
@@joshido7352 He has a minor calf injury and they were just being precautious. I guess the thought was we’re away in Denver, we’re more likely to lose than win regardless if he plays let’s play it safe. I was very disappointed but he’s definitely not ducking Jokic, Jokic’s defense is subpar Embiid can cook on offense. Maybe on the defensive end it’s a tough game but regardless it sucked not to see it and who cares about that game after that. Especially with Harden sitting aswell. They did make a late push tho, Paul Reed looked really good given more time and when Harden is gone we’re in good hands with Maxey.
@@jdaily2293 I just didn’t like him sitting out as a competitor.
In an interview, the former marlins owner said the reason Barry Bonds wasnt a good hitting coach was because he coached like everyone could be Barry Bonds. Alot of times great players dont realize that what comes easy to them doesnt come easy to others so it makes them bad coaches, GMs, etc
MJ ain't the coach though.
No he’s not but he expects greatness from the players he pays. Not everyone is MJ that’s why MJ is a legend. He’s also a terrible talent evaluator. Missed on a lot of high draft picks. Great player, great business man, but terrible NBA owner.
This is the cringiest thing I’ve ever seen. What in gods name even is this…? Who even are these four st00ges..? 😳🤨
Wayne Gretzky is another example, in the NHL he was a weak coach.
Bonds is probably a good hitting coach like McGwire but yes the real problem is the discipline and work ethic . Bonds couldn't even get a job for years but it's also said that these younger guys are soft . Leagues are different.. Not trying to be old guy yelling at the clouds but I'm late 30s and it's already different.
Bird was a great GM at times and was rough . The entitlement was shifting once social media started . What you guys think ?
The worst NBA owner is by far James Dolan. To be in the largest market in the US (New York City) and not be relevant for the last 25 years is crazy.
Dolan doesn't care about winning. He only cares about profits. He has been. Successful as a money maker.
@@Rworlds1 only because of the real estate. Only reason
So, WHY is the tribesman Dolan not selling? Please do not listen to these paid liars. Somebody is threatening Jordan and they are covering it up with thesd preposterous stories. The same thing happened to Michael Jackson, James Brown, Whitney Houston and now Bill Cosby.
Yes, not a player friendly atmosphere in NY.
The Knicks were in the finals in 1999, 24 years ago.
International players are saving the nba at this point.
True. Giannis, Embiid, luka and Jokic are literally saving the nba lmaoo
As well as old school 80s and 90s footage where nostalgic fans are buying old school merchandise and memorabilia.
curry brings more attention then all international players
International shoe sweatshops are too.... cars... phones.... oil.... MLB... golf... NHL... America has always relied on the backs of other less fortunate countries. Why would the NBA be any different? Duh
@@feelme5297 No he doesn't. Plus NBA is shrinking in USA, whatever growrth the NBA has is almost exclusively because of China and Europe.
I worked for the Charlotte Hornets for 3 years under Mr. Jordan's leadership. Calling him one of the worst owners in the league is ludicrous. Yes, the on-court product has been tough. But guys--as a business (the side I worked on)--we absolutely crushed it. Ticket sales, sponsorship, community outreach. He has been an AWESOME owner in that he hired incredible talent to run the organization and treated us and compensated us very well. It was an incredible place to work. This is some lousy analysis.
He bought this team as the Charlotte Bobcats--a horrible brand with a horrible reputation and a horrible owner (Bob Johnson). He invested his own money to bring the Hornets brand back where it belonged. He turned a horrible business into a thriving business. "GOAT mountain" of bad NBA owners my ass.
True! Bobcats were terrible. Now they’re likable & can compete with the best. A healthy team they’ll be a top 6 team in the east
@@taco5467 😂😂😂😂😂😂I
And then he threw $300 million at Terry Rozier, Gordon Hayward, and Miles Plumlee
@@ThomasMartin-om7vq Did you just ignore my comment? I said the basketball product has been tough-although Rich Cho and then Mitch Kupchak have been the GMs, not MJ. I was commenting on the business.
@@JustinClosedWon lol MJ has had the final say in basketball decision making since the day he took over. Frank Kaminsky, Michael Kidd Gilchrist, Adam Morrison, etc..
Even Skip Bayless doesn't simp for Jordan in this realm of his career. So sick of MJ simps.
The NBA sadly has become a 3 point contest I think that is the problem not enough fast Break dunks and mid range only 3s
Blame Steph curry for that
Don't blame Steph. Blame coaches not being able to teach their players how to play defense and not conform to what the warriors are doing.
Nba problem is the Jewish ownership has turned it into micro managing the games via the refs
I agree. I used to love watching the NBA. But now seems like a circus. It’s only 3s easy open layups or dunks and doesn’t feel competitive. Some games are complete blowouts beginning from the 1st quarter. That’s why I stick with football.
And weak ass defending and no characters in the game.
MJ's an all time great owner. Bought low and selling at a 10x on his investment. Getting out at right time too. Actual winning games is hard for small market teams.
If only MJ could sell his Chicago mansion the same way
@@teencred9430 right, but hes so Rich he doesnt even need too
Go ask San Antonio who had dynasty or even thepe Sacramento kings right now
The local broadcasting affiliates going belly-up is a major issue, but the NBA being a shit product is an even bigger issue.
The shit product line is a bit hyperbolic. But something needs to be done about teams encouraging players to sit out games.
This is the cringiest thing I’ve ever seen. What in gods name even is this…? Who even are these four st00ges..? 😳🤨
@@joshido7352 no, it’s not hyperbolic at all… You must be a Biden voter
@@JM-qn3tf No you idiots just don't know sports this ain't politics Biden don't even have control over the country wtf he controlling in sports foh
@@JM-qn3tf liking basketball makes you a “Biden supporter”.. Got it
22 million people watched the NBA All Star game in 1993. 4 million people watched it this year.
Shooting from half court and no defense. 😂
@@cremephoto lol the last one i watched was absolutely terrible... No effort whatsoever 🚮🚮🤣🤣
This is the worst comment on this topic every all star game in sports are trash... and second I suspect everyone complaining just doesn't have an athletic bone in their body and just couldnt play the game so they hate it
@@jakekelly336 your comment is flat out dumb. Just because someone doesnt play basketball , they have no idea what they are watching? Sounds like you got dunked on as a kid and shoved in a locker. Yes, The AS game isnt great but its an indicator of how unpopular the NBA has become.
@@jakekelly336 Baseball’s is still competitive and so is hockey’s so no not every all star game is trash. The NFL’s pro-bowl always has been trash I was glad they finally did not even play a game this year just had special events. Which they should just cancel also.
Too many games in a season, not enough stakes per game
You don't have to spend $1000. I took my two sons to see Ja Morant for $22 a ticket, hotel was like $105 for the night. Food all in was like $75. I also bought the tickets two months in advance and was praying he played 🤣
Lmao ur lucky ja wick played
@@youngtrapper4953 you ain't lying!
was this in memphis?
Pat doesnt have a concept of nosebleed seats and $105 hotel. To him those don't exist.
I bought great seats right behind court side & the Lakers tunnel for the Memphis v Lakers game a few weeks ago. Had it not been for the special jersey retirement ceremony for Pau Gasol, the night would’ve been ruined. Ja Morant got suspended 2 nights before the game, and LBJ (although injured) decided not show up at all!
NBA was my life growing up as a kid. Love, love, love it’s history of 80’s, 90’s, 2000. Today 💯 true the NBA is shit. I can barely watch a full game these days. The Goat is Jordan for many reasons. And Lebron fits in my top 10.
The NBA is just fine don’t watch if you don’t like it.
@@joshido7352 I think he's pointing out that it used to be incredible and even a superstar player has come out and voiced his opinion on the quality of the league now.. have you seen Lillards interview with JJ reddick?..... Even though its directed at this dude I dont watch it now, maybe a highlight here and there, maybe because I'm older the sense of being young and looking up to players is gone.. but I do feel like the regular season is watered down and boring now
@@elliottmcparland8786 Lillard was talking about ring culture which I guess is bad but the best players typically win rings.
The season should be shorter but that will never happen. Capitalism won’t allow it.
@@joshido7352 He also said stuff about how he plays for the love of the game, competition, and to win.. and now its all about the rings, stats and what accolades you can win / records you break.. LeBron broke the scoring record in a tight game and they stopped the game and interviewed him.. they went on to lose because it obviously took the momentum from the lakers. It was historical and amazing, but its also the highest level of competition in the world and about wins and losses at thr end of the day
@@elliottmcparland8786 if it was about wins or losses Lillard would demand more from his team and front office.
I think most guys who are successful and have long careers feel the same as Lillard. It’s hard to just get by on talent alone.
He's a multi billionaire and the GOAT of the NBA. I think his legacy will be just fine without the hornet's being successful....
That's not the point
@@Eli-yk4ht who cares?
The clippers scored 175 points in a game few weeks ago and lost. Wtf
I think the issue is the offense has progressed to a point where scoring is too easy pair that with the fact that you can't play any defense because the refs call bogus fouls. They need to stop calling so many fouls and let the players get physical on D.
The problem began when the league decided they wanted to see more scoring. What they apparently didn’t understand was allowing scorers to score uncontested or watch free throws being shot half the game is more boring.
@@elnegritolamar4689 yes!
This is the cringiest thing I’ve ever seen. What in gods name even is this…? Who even are these four st00ges..? 😳🤨
That game was a double overtime game what are you talking about.
Genius move by MJ. Bought a piece of $hit, sold it for a billion and a half profit. Even Warren Buffet can't do that.
Buffet has like 155B in cash through Berkshire Hathaway. He can buy the entire NBA if he wants.
@@HH-le1vi That's irrelevant though, you missed the point. It's not about Buffets total money at all. What he's saying is is that Jordan made a really intelligent decision. A decision that Buffet likely wouldn't have had the ability to see if he was in the same situation. That's the point that he was trying to make.
The way they let them flop and travel alone is a joke ! it’s NOT even REAL Basketball !
The traveling, uncontested shots, 3pt shots every attempt, 0 physicality, flopping, baby league. There's a reason why everyone says Jordan would average 45-50 every game if he played now.
Casuals crying about basketball is hilarious to me
@@ChrisCash720 no he wouldn’t because they would be able to actually double team him without being called for illegal defense
It’s an entertainment company. Legally they can fix the outcome of games. that’s what a lot of people don’t know.
@@ChrisCash720 😅 stop jordan not avg 40 or 50.
The NBA would never be a shit product considering the growth and the amount of popularity the sport has around the world.
But I do agree that athletes not competing does hurt the league's value.
Agree those guys seems like they got an agenda and it's not easy not to know why.
Shit product really?
Its a shit product because it has a shit commissioner (who looks like Nosferatu btw) and it has shit values (woke) and shit play (softer than cottoneelle tissue).
@@Debarros2010 Nba playoffs are one hell of a show and regular season is exactly the opposite,a shitshow as Pat said. Players not playing defense, bad referees,superstars not playing in games. Plus NBA is a woke movement nowadays, CIA influences it .
@@troymash8109 lol you can't prove that.
@@Debarros2010 They want to blame it on wokeness as the reason it is a shit product. That’s the agenda they want to push so badly.
The NBA is sh*t due to not being able to watch your local team on a local channel. I miss watching the Pacers on Channel 4.
While I mostly agree with everything Patrick says, I go to Chicago Bulls games and always have a blast. While its a crap product and we've been awful, the games are always fun, if you're ever in Chicago during basketball season you should go! Our mascot Benny will have you cracking up 🤣
The amount of travels, carries, and double dribbles in the NBA is insane and it has now infected every level of play. This is no longer basketball and I won’t support it with my viewership.
im sure they'll be so upset youre not watching
@@bkkid12203 I get it, but I think I represent a larger contingent that they should care about. I also play multiple times a week and will dunk on you anytime you’d like to pull up.
@@eag8999 lmaooo pull up lets play
@@eag8999 internet hooper! Go watch ping pong bro. Basketball doesn’t need you.
@@bkkid12203 you aint doin shit fatboy
A friend offered me free tickets to go to the OKC Thunder game tonight (they're playing Charlotte) and I didn't even want to go because I can't hardly watch NBA basketball anymore. It's a shit game. Watching teams chuck up a combined 90 3 pointers, not play hardly any defense and a bunch of palming and traveling that doesn't get called is not good basketball. I don't know what it is but it ain't worth watching.
It's still very competitive and skilled game to be played. I play both golf and basketball and they are hard to master.. especially officiating in basketball
It's very difficult to be relevant in the NBA in a non top-tier market like Charlotte. You basically need to rely on hitting on your draft picks because it's damn near impossible to attract premier free agents. Then you need to be able to re-sign your top draft picks that pan out so they don't go to someplace like LA or Miami as free agents.
This is an absolutely huge point that people ignore all the time. Great comment.
Facts. Duke and North Carolina basketball are the most popular basketball teams in North Carolina.
@@cityboychad that's true, but you probably don't realize that the Hornets used to lead the NBA in attendance back in the 90s.
@@josejorge110 Because they had a good team. Being competitive solves everything. Look at Sacramento. Those fans up there are excited again and showing up because the Kings are winning. Lakers fans are just stupid. The team is trash but they keep showing up. 😅
I quit watching the NBA over a decade ago for a number of reasons and I don't support the NFL, MLB or NHL anymore because of all this corporate woke s@@@. ESPN is basically MSNBC at this point.
Idk why they say he’s such a bad owner because he struggled to win with a small market team.
The TV contracts in the NBA are 2nd only to the NFL. Being a small market team isn't much of an excuse anymore. There have been plenty of other small market teams that have been able to compete and make the playoffs semi-reularly
$1000 to see a basketball game? i used to pay $4 to sit in the bleachers for cardinal games.
great topic and I feel like y'all should talk more in depth about this Patrick killed it at the end and it seemed like he was holding back and could of elaborated more.
When you own a team, you’re worried about the evaluation of the team when you have 10Xor 5X you’re winning
"Star" players not playing 40+games a season is NOT healthy for the NBA. The non physicality killed it for me. 90's Basketball was amazing. Do that!
And people are figuring out players are throwing games and series on purpose because of Vegas. "Off day" "They are on a cold streak" and then u go to the bet line and everything makes sense.
Allen Iverson
add in that it also is shoving all these bs social justice issues and supports blm--can not stand this new woke nba
@@bryana.escaleralopez easy example just look at the nuggets vs 76ers that just happend. 2mvp candidates and 1 says fuck it I'm not playing. I would be pissed if I bought tickets.
I lived and breathed basketball. I played 6-7 days a week when I was younger. I kept up with all the teams, players and stats. I was even a assistant basketball coach.
In the past 10 years this league has gone to shit. It's unwatchable. I don't watch it anymore. I don't care about it. It's ruined.
You're an expert fatty because you played six to seven days a week at the YMCA. And you were still picked last
I don't know how anyone watches the NBA, especially if you used to follow in the days of MJ, Bird, Isaiah, Magic, Kobe, etc. Can't touch anyone today.
I like PBD but he is clueless on certain issues. If you look at the List of professional sports leagues by revenue NBA is third in the world which is an amazing accomplishment.
He just talks to talk sometimes. Horrible product but everyone wears the gear. And walks the walk.
I love PBD but this was very wrong of him to say. NBA is farrrrr from a shit product.
Referees have ruined the game for decades
Any half decent player today can score 30+ pts on any given night, it used to be special back when the game was made for men by men and not all that soft ass officiating where you can't even look at an opposing player the wrong way without getting a technical.
The game is soo soo soo much faster today...they average probably 15-20 more possessions compared to the 90s. Also it was shit offenses from the 90s till the early 2000s. The greats will be great in any Era but the role players of today are just alot better compared to the 90s. U had only 1 or 2 guys that could shoot 3s back then..now u got 4-5 guys which makes it much harder to guard bc of all the spacing. Yes the NBA isn't as tough but they are just more talented today
The NBA HAS GONE WOKE! I stopped watching in 2008.
The raptors had to remove a promo video for international women’s day because one of the players said we love women because they give birth. They had to REMOVE THE PROMO. disgusting.
What the fuck does that even mean?
We don’t care. Billions do
Sure you did- that’s why you’re here commenting on a low budget RUclips account talking about the NBA 😂 racist troll
I find most people using the word woke have zero clue what they're talking about
The NBA does suck. Would never spend even $500 on any pro sports game
Yeah my wife and I went on our honeymoon in April 2021 and we went to a Heat game and probably paid $150 or so for the tickets and another $100 on the City Edition Heat apparel at the team story. However, we didn't see either Butler, Bam, and Herro play for the Heat that night! Instead, the best Heat players I saw that night were Nunn, Robinson, Dragic, and Iguadola.
NOTE: I saw that both Bam and Herro played the night before against the Nets, so even though I wasn't sure if I'd see Butler, I had to settle for like the 4th/5th best players on the Heat at the game I went to!
I’m surprised anyone still watches the NBA.
It’s the third most profitable sports league. Did I miss something? The team is bad but not the league as a whole.
Even Pats conversation has an agenda
Just because it makes a lot of money doesn’t mean it’s a good product.
I don't think any owner in the NBA is worse than Vivek of the Sacramento Kings. He literally said their center should just stand on one side of the court and wait.
The biggest problem with the NBA is it has a watered down product that are grossly over paid and seriously under perform. Taking guys that play one year in college or high school is an under developed that end up going no where. 3 to 4 years in college basketball helps a player develop their craft. Taking a weakness product weakness the league which translates to poor attendance and less revenue. Paying someone 20 million dollars a season and they play less than 82 games and not injuried translates to crap. Crap in crap out. Raise the standards, empower the coaches, stop taking one and done college players 3 years of college play has to be the minimum requirement for the NBA.
There are a few teams that need to be sold or combined since they aren't even competitive ever.
Adam acting like he knows something about basketball 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I fast forward when he starts talking. He adds nothing productive to the show
@@truthhurts1945 yes he does
none of these guys are sports guys, especially the old guy
Adam spoke facts
Adam does actually know basketball. It's the rest of everything else he's clueless about 😂
The nba more than any other league is dominated by the teams with the largest markets. It really feels like there’s only a handful off teams that are capable of building a championship team.
You know what you speak 👍🏾
Too many games being played. Other sports have 1 game a week while the nba schedule can have your team squeeze in 4 games in a week and then add all the traveling they have to do on top of that. But most of the basketball games being played rn is playoff level intensity with all the teams trying to secure a playoff spot
It's Rare, you need someone who is all in and aggressive!!!, Mark Cuban Cared about his team and he was in it the way Michael Jordan was in It to be the Best Player
I strongly believe R.I.P. Kobe Bryant, that HE would have been an amazing Coach and Owner If he had the Opportunity. I Think even Lebron James might be able to be a better Coach and Owner if he isn't too focused on business, but that's how I See Michael Jordan, he is in it for different reasons (money) and that's fine he's going to move on now, he just doesn't have the passion for it the way.
The NBA was ruined after David Stern retired
For me it was ruined when local channels stopped carrying games and the majority of games switched to cable and other pay walls. They priced out most of their fan base.
I fully agree Adam Silver caters to muster these players it's no longer about the game know about culture hip hop lgbtq and whatever else they can come up with to try and get the fans to put eyes on the NBA so sick
@Shallow Terrestrial I don't agree fantasy football is alive and kicking the NBA was ruined by Adam Silver
You mean since Lebron came on the scene and got to flop his entire career minus the first 2 maybe 3 years…
Absolutely love the nba been a hardcore fan since 93, however can totally see the reasoning in point of load management in todays game. It’s a big problem!
North Carolina is a COLLEGE basketball state. The Hornets are at best the second favorite local basketball team for 95% of the population. And that dosent even account for all of the people who have moved there in the past 40 years who are still fans of the teams they grew up with. The biggest attendance draws in Charlotte are when Bulls, Knicks and Celtics fans come to watch them play against Charlotte.
Time and time again.. it never stop being amazing.. the amount of times I feel like Adam adds ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO the show… vinnie isn’t far off, but wow Adam takes the cake.. saying this again kids.. if Adam can “make it”.. we all should be raking in the cash
I’ve been thinking the exact same thing
This is the cringiest thing I’ve ever seen. What in gods name even is this…? Who even are these four st00ges..? 😳🤨
I don’t think he said anything necessarily wrong about the hornets. Although his argument about MJ being on the goat of worst general managers is debatable, still doesn’t change the fact that he’s a bad owner. He forgot to mention a point where most players don’t end up becoming good front offices positions like coaches for the exception of Steve Kerr, or possibly Steve bash. The hornets have been bad due to front management decisions and some injuries
@@diegopiedra183 Steve bash…?
@@diegopiedra183 what in gods name are you talking about 🤦🏻😆 nearly *every single* NBA coach is a former player. Seriously, almost every single one in the history of the league has been a former player.
I mean....sure. The lack of defense is annoying but calling the NBA a sh*t product is beyond hyperbole. The massive success of NBA 2K each year alone dispels this idiocy.
the nba is definitely becoming a shit product.
They might draft victor the french guy he should wait, lamelo and victor those 2 would take them far and value will go 📈📈📈📈
Adam Silver was the worse person to get the role of commissioner after Stern. He make a league around Lebron being the face and saying that every other player is terrible. Now Lebron is old and everyone is tuning out because nobody wants to believe the next gen is going to be a better product after years of media bashing these players to prop Lebron up.
Child bye - you market your product around the best players 🤡
Stern literally did the same with Jordan
@@jasonbilas5734 And now no one believes Jokic is that guy and has two MVPs and is about to win 3….
@@joshido7352 MJ threepeated. Lebron jumped to the next superteam
@@bryana.escaleralopez who gives a fck what others believe lol. The PLAYERS know he’s that guy
Maybe if the refs didn’t RIG the games, maybe if we allowed defensive hand checking, maybe if it was still just about basketball and not Mainstream propaganda
The banning of hand-checking to play defense, load management, and the lack of desire to play with passion every game which is why I stopped watching the NBA recently.
Agree I was a huge NBA fan and even I have had enough of it lately. Every single night a good matchup is ruined by load management and fake injuries. I’m just over it ! Play basketball dammit !
The idea to pay $400-700 for decent seats to see Lebron and AD play and one gets injured and misses out! It’s bad customer experience, I choose my Laker tickets last minute for that reason.
The NBA has shown the ability to adapt quicker than other leagues in the country. I think they will be able to course correct and address some of the major outstanding issues (load management, season length, all star, etc). NBA is the most popular sport on social media (outside of euro league soccer perhaps) which is often left out of mainstream metrics.
The NBA added the stupid play in tournament and soon will have a mid season tournament. Just like the 17th game added to the NFL regular season and TNF it's just a greedy cash grab for the owners Pro sports is too corporate and it's what's killing the product.
Who runs American sports? The NFL and college football. These are facts Mr globalist.
The worst problem with the nba is getting in bed with lebron and Nike they lost all objectivity they cheer for one player and force feed you BS narratives but we all have eyes
Does anyone have the drive/mentality/skill mj has now in this league?
U can Thank Player Empowerment.Guys get mad at a coach and the coach gets fired or the players request a trade...
Soon as u think your team Is Good some Super Trade happens basically killing any chance of any team aside 2-3 so basically u know coming in the season your team has no shot
I agree 100% with you Pat. Terrible product.
Only 10 teams have won a championship in the last 20 years after the Pistons one it. And about half of those teams were franchise teams. So that means most of the owners aren’t doing good.
@@harrym9655 It's about legacy.
@@harrym9655 what guys are not that smart? I’m confused. PBD Is wise. Are you talking about the owners of the teams ?
Players have more power in the NBA than in other leagues. It's not the owners fault LeBron decides he want to up and leave and tamper with other star players to have their agents demand a trade so LeBron can have the teammates he wants to play with.
No real baller takes the NBA seriously. It's too corrupt.
PBD surely spent $5k on box seats🤣
Only thing I've EVER agreed with Adam on is Jordan's the best player to ever set foot on a basketball court and his inability to successfully run an NBA Franchise
He ain't lying
Small markets are harder than Large Markets to succeed in
That’s why I’m a Knicks fan our players play every game check out Julius Randle record
Wilt had more impact in a game. 50 ppg, 25 rebounds and who knows how many shots he altered
Against inferior athletes and only 8 teams yes
That impact really showed in the playoffs against Bill Russell, right.....
And if they do play, all they do is launch three pointers
1. Pat is 100% right. It's a sh%$ product.. the entire NBA is unwatchable.
2. I honestly think Jordan is trolling Reinsdorf by proving the front office means nothing.
ESPN RUINED THE GAME. Colin Cowherd and Chris Broussard are the the only 2 personals I truly respect
The ever present “ref show” in the NBA (NFL, MLB, & all NCAA too) along with “load management” have made the regular season worthless or a shit product as Pat said. Bought tickets in the 2003/2004 timeframe to see Shaquille and Kobe when the lakers came to town; neither played or even made the trip and I realized then that the league didn’t care about their product. Haven’t paid to see a game since. The risk of not seeing the best players or of getting treated to a ref show is just not worth the price of admission; I’ll mitigate risk by watching on TV and switching channels if the product sucks that night.
Rare form from Adam. MJ is the GOAT of basketball.
Very smart to say so and much smarter after…….selling
They may play a similar game, but very very few players in todays NBA speak the same language as MJ. Entitled, overpaid, underworked, undercommitted.. it’s hard to be around people abusing the game you love to your core. Get your billions Mike! Lamelo and Wemby will carry the Hornets.
Mike just didn’t surround himself with basketball business brains like a great GM.
(Stunned Adam is an MJ fan! Definitely struck me as a Kyrie is the goat kinda guy 😂 but good stuff)
The nba is the worst product of any sport on television and it shows how dumb the consumer is. They just fork their money over like zombies and inwant an investigation between the nba and china involved in the protests
I stopped watching the NBA around 2004/2005
Idk, I went to my first NBA game last year and enjoyed it so much I have been to many more this year. I wouldn't call it crap product.
Adam struggles to bring value to the show…. Pat must REALLY like him!
Facts
Kobe was the last of the old guard and once he retired the NBA began its decline into mediocrity.
Load management, super teams, expensive game tickets, flopping, excessive traveling and carrying and the list goes on and on.
In an attempt to make the game more exciting it’s lost its essence… the competition.
The fans are being cheated and they are voting with their dollar and viewership.
The product is terrible. I don't want to watch guys shooting 3 threes all game. Then players like LeFlop you can't play defense anymore.
Didn’t Pat say he stopped watching the NBA years ago?
He is flip flapping
So basically it’s not good business to own an nba team. Lebron “I’ll buy it”.
He doesn't have a $1.2 billion dollars😤
It’s the best business, you’ll double your money in half decade
He made an insane ROI so he came out on top
@@lumapas soon he’ll will
Patrick your a 1000 % right! The product sux. In fact college is also starting to suck. Players getting paid? They're not hungry anymore!
I mean are the players not suppose to be getting paid you have all these schools and people in the NCAA making millions and millions of dollars off of them.
@@HoopsMegaCentral yea its not a professional league. It is college. They are Student athletes! Their education, books, housing and food is totally paid for. They are recruited to play a sport to represent the school. Thus they get everything paid for!
@@eddieardakoc7308 nope the NCAA is business a company more so kids getting paid isn’t big deal at all.
NBA does need to make some changes, further the 3 point line back, too much 3 point shooting. Get rid of flopping, call technicals for flopping, stars are now resting games all the time. Players should have to play unless they are hurt. The all star game and weekend is complete garbage now, All star game is now unwatchable. I think Silver has done a horrible job.
What happens if China cuts off the NBA either in merchandise or broadcasts? It could happen.
I agree with Pat my opinion is ever since LeBron went to Miami. The NBA is like watching a bunch of friends play each other at the YMCA. We are not paying attention over here but the euro leagues are building up
Born and raised in Miami, diehard heat fan since 88. The time you’re describing is the best time of my life. 4 finals appearances and 2 rings. Sometimes it works out is all I’m saying if you find those guys on your team. It sucked for Cleveland but, great for us.
So Ray Allen and KG being handed over to Boston was competitive. Lol. People just say anything lol
Player salery.. down down down with only apparel and ticket sales
Most of us true older fans were ready for Jordan to retire, now it’s time for LeBron. Same with Tom Brady, it’s time to go. Sad that the NBA has nobody to lean on after he’s gone, just like the PGA Tour is not in great shape with Tiger gone. The sporting world is changing, that’s for sure!
Golf and liv need together
NBA has Luka Doncic and Giannis. Giannis is already the second best PF of all time behind mr. fundamental
Players are mentally, emotionally and physically WEAK😠😠
Not to mention NBA games in crap crime locations
And I’m still going to games lol. It’s a whole experience and the kids love it.
The nba is a product for children today. They don't make the game for adults purposely. My issue is how much money parents fork over to nba and nba products while at the same time they complain about money and the financial gap. You can't have it both ways.
Everybody needs to get real the NBA has gone down hill as institution MJ is great it’s a problem not his NBA product is not good
With the dollar ready to collapse, investing in sports would be disastrous
Pat doesn't know what tf he's talking about. Have you seen the value of these teams the last decade? Between 2001 to 2022, the average NBA team's value increased more than ten fold. How is one of the top 3 fastest growing sports not a good investment?
i wouldn't say the NBA is a shit product, but it is different, mainly because of the rules. I recently started watching more college basketball this season, and i was kind of disappointed at a lot of the games i saw. I did love the intensity & teamwork and passing at the college level, but the amount of missed shots i saw surprised me. I think i was so used to seeing NBA pros knocking down 3's and shooting fade aways which they made look so easy. I actually enjoyed watching high school basketball and NBA basketball more than college lately.
College basketball is an objectively inferior product, if you take the national tournament out of it there’s no reason to watch.
NCAA is such a terrible product. The 35 second shot clock and lack of skill make it almost unwatchable
I prefer watching and playing pickup ball Venice Beach.
6-8 inches to the left or right my friend.
Agreed, NBA Stinks now.
The season is waaay too long and it's lacking young American stars.