Secrets of Kryptos
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Table of Contents
0:00 intro
1:30 CIA art and history
3:57 multiple clues, multiple theories
5:36 agencies one-upping each other
7:15 first set, what even is iqlusion?
8:33 second set, coordinates?
10:33 third st, archeology prose?
11:54 periodic clues for fourth set
13:25 so buggy it's broken?
14:17 so we need one of these sculptures, right?
15:17 Roman ad
17:15 Decode the message, BOY
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Super cool video!
If you guys need someone to make a secret message for you, might I recommend The Mastermind. Quite a devious fellow. Also, when will you do a video following along on his letter quest from the fan mail episode?
All quiet on the western front
If you can’t open a bag of chips you’ve got more to worry about than ‘where’s my knife’! It looks cool though
Do you guys know about the dyslexic spy? His name was Brian Regan and he was the biggest governmental data leak until Edward Snowden. Apparently since he couldn't spell very well his codes were "unbreakable". Look him up. Completely wild story.
Having buggy, broken code carved into stone feels on-brand for a government agency.
Are we sure it's a gorvernment agency and not Bethesda Studios' HQ?
Why not both?
I discovered the solution... You don't need the keys to solve K4. It is different. In fact, Kryptos is not what you think. What is the intention of Kryptos? Why it resembles non sense?
Surprise, surprise! The NSA not announcing something.
That's why the organization is nicknamed "Never Say Anything".
Prior to that, the nickname was "No Such Agency".
A fiver says they didn't find out anything and were just bullshitting.
NSA? Never heard of it. Must not exist.
Know Nothing party, electric boogaloo
@@catfish552 LMAOOO
We all know the the "clever message" is going to be "Grilled Cheese". Solved it before it was even written. BOOM
Or a rick roll
It’s going to be Netflix example show
@@drakeolson4683 "Never gonna give your grilled cheese up..."
"It sounds like you're about to admit to a crime, stop talking" is basically the Modern Rogue in a nutshell.
Rogue. Spell it correctly.
@@AlphaMachina HA! Happens to everyone. I've even done it a couple of times.
@@AlphaMachina Oh no
I made the dreaded typo
The last cypher just says "We have been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty."
The coordinates in the second part are for a call center somewhere in Bangladesh.
VlogCreations
Or something about miss-sold PPI
They spam me the cypher everyday!
if you let fans make it, the answer will be never gonna give you up
OMG... the final code... brings you to a geo-cache, which has a USB, which when inserted, infects your computer with a virus which instantly (and continuously) plays Rick Astley.
Considering the year, it would more likely be a Duckroll.
But if you let fans make it, the answer will never let you down
@@ArthurEKing8472 *No...Even better...... **_The Example Show_*
YES!! I'm one of the few people who doesn't get upset at a Rickroll. Despite me now being huge into heavy metal and punk, back in the day I was big into hip hop and R&B, and Rick fit in perfectly since he had a really nice voice and he seemed a bit deeper than Keith Sweat, etc. who were on the airwaves at the time.
This premiered the second I got home from a horrible day at work. Thank you guys so much ❤️
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@ModernRogue I love your videos
Your very welcome, I worked really hard on those cyborgs. They are REALLY paying off!
- you're truly
AI mad scientist who created the hosts.
Hey, bud. I hope your night improved a bit. I, of course, don't know what you went through at work, but now you can take a breath. The bells have rung, the day is done, ease your mind and have a bit of fun.
Failing that, find something to pour the extra "too muchness" of work into. You got this.
Yeah. My day was shit too, glad to see this notification. :/
Jason and Brian became the two lowkey stoner uncles that everyone likes. I love it.
lowkey? ;)
Here is an interesting thought that I'm not sure if anyone has looked into. You can tie Berlin and clock together with the weird Egyptian theme from the other parts of the cypher pretty easily, there is a pretty famous clepsydra called The Clock Of Flowing Time that is located in Berlin (Europa Center), a water clock like the Egyptians used, in Berlin, that isn't really a far fetched reference since it's pretty well known. Northeast as a clue can mean a lot of things but maybe the answer is both really meta and really simple. If you go Northeast from The Clock Of Flowing Time you end up at a sightseeing agency that is literally called Secret Tours Berlin. I am going to assume most kryptologists (?) have looked into this, but for anyone that wants a thing to look into maybe that would be a good place to start.
I haven't done the research, but I don't think you're on the right track, at least not in context from the video. There are 4 different cyphers, and the clues of Berlin, clock, and northwest were only for the fourth cypher. The Egyptian thing (the opening of King Tut's Tomb) would only be needed to break the inclusion cypher for all four combined. Still, good catch.
@@ArthurEKing8472 Sometimes you can get to the final step by skipping the previous.
@@wobblysauce Not impossible, agreed. BUT I feel like that's highly unlikely in this case. This was a code that was meant to be solved. (Even if it's buggy?) And the clues were specifically for that portion. *shrug* As I said, not impossible, but I don't feel like that would necessarily be it.
Man, once this pandemic is done you all need to get down to the National Cryptologic Museum! I will 100% happily host you there, as I've been many times and have some contacts, and it is crazy fun despite being a tiny museum, particularly since it's one missed turn from having M-16s pointed at you because you accidentally tried to drive into the NSA.
that sounds like a perfect episode, with their expertise and luck they will undoubtedly end up at the NSA and if they record from the get-go they can either do an episode on negotiating with government agencies or do a week long mini series on how not to crack under torture while trying to explain your sketchy youtube channel content!
This reminds me of how so many years after it's release, we finally figured out the cipher of the numbers from Call of Duty: Black Ops. It was formerly thought that they were random numbers made up by the devs, or maybe a practically unbreakable OTP. Turns out it is polyalphabetic, and the cipherkey was parts of JFK's book.
When I was younger I used to experiment with putting a message through multiple Cesar chippers. But, then I realized that in the end it it like a single chiper.
When Jason said the fourth one hasn't been solved, then paused, I was expecting his next words to be "until now"
You could have one of the layers of code be translated into G-code, which could be plugged into a 3D printer to extend the puzzle.
That would be awesome! But then, the model that is created is just 3d text that says "scamstuff.com" lol
Brah. Brah !!! Bra?
This is actually super smart! Create a code that when solved is a gcode and what ever it prints is the next clue is a brilliant idea!
Question 1, did they try to see if it was just "never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down", the original Rick Roll
Question 2, is it the greatest idea to make the Rogue version actually do that?
No, we clearly need to have the code point to the Test Show on Netflix
Per Question 2:
That would be a "Rogue Roll."
Given the Berlin clue, I wonder if the fourth text is using an Enigma machine. Computerphile has a video on how to approach cracking these without the key.
The clue actually tells the translation of a certain part of the cipher. Not saying it cant be enigma, but its not more likely than anything else
@@sebi821 Ah, ok. That makes sense.
@@sebi821 I was reading that as well, which adds credence to the "something is borked" theory - given three big chunks of plaintext (and the hilarious amount of computing power available today), it seems weird that it hasn't been bruteforced.
It could be, because “BRLN” could be a the Rotor settings for a 4 wheel machine
Or 3 plugboard pairs like “BE RL IN”
The other two clues could also be a reference to enigma as well. A clock could reference the rotors, and the shortest path between DC and Bletchy Park is Northeast.
This is one of the most scoundrely things I've seen you guys cover on the show in a long time. I love this. I want to solve it, and I'm giddy just thinking about it, then I remember there's no way I'm going to out-code the US government's best cryptanalysts, but it's still a rush and I want to try and fail anyway.
Bro like a code pyramid in modern rogue HQ would be sick for us to solve
Grampa Murphy: You look like an expert in something?
Brian: Homelessness, and bad taste. I have a RUclips Channel.
I do appreciate the reference to Alas Babylon. As it happens, it's practically the only piece of Post-Apocalyptic fiction that actually warns against putting metal directly against flesh after a nuclear fallout incident.
It troubles me that you’ve read ALL the post apocalyptic lit in order to know that’s the ONLY one that warns that.
@@animula6908 I’ve only read a dozen or so, enough to know it’s extremely uncommon. He was just the only example I could cite.
The idea of that puzzle statue, I think would be absolutely awesome.
I’m currently designing a throne and it will have puzzles all over it. It’s a lot of fun doing stuff like that this
They need to use the fire eating book Brian wrote for the cypher. Also, one of the codes needs to just be a grilled cheese recipe.
When I heard there was a pond under it, my first thought was ‘I guess a mirror image is going to be needed’
It would be great if your big puzzle you’re planning just lead to the url for the Netflix example show.
As someone who is currently doing a cryptography and cybersecurity degree, if there's a discord server or message group set up to make the modern rogue statue and yall need more eyes to make a code for it, hmu!
Imagine that the 4th one just doesn't exist and this is the best practical joke ever
Jokes on you, I wasn't at home. Shouldn't be leaving your key out like that.
As soon as someone announces publically that they solved the 4th part, one or two of those agencys come out and say 'Oh, we have solved it way earlier.' 😸
So the "misspellings' are not a clue? 😼
I love this channel so much ❤
"PALIMPSEST" actually looks like a bit of wordplay with one letter missing. If this is true, then it's solution is "Glimpse into the past" with its first letter, the letter G, missing.
The word "illusion" has the first "L", the second letter of the word, replaced with a "Q".
The word "ground" has the "O", the third letter of the word, replaced with a "U".
The word "desperately" has the second "E", the fifth letter of the word, replaced with an "A", and it is also missing the ninth letter, which is also an "E".
So far, if one considers all of this true, one would think that the following is what you would be given:
?QU?A______?
GLO_E_____?
Is this a clue?
A cipher involving the letters in the names on the founders plaque. THAT would be a cool method of encoding the message.
I have been following Kryptos for over a decade now myself. I love that you guys have finally dabbled in it. Here’s to the MRHQ version!
Bonus points for the Schrab shirt!
Most interesting and funniest channel on this platform, period
as soon as he said "What if" i got excited!
This channel seems pretty fun! Ima sub! 😺
What if the Misspelled words give the clue to the (OTP)?
The "Berlin clock" bit either refers to the Mengenlehreuhr, the "Clock of flowing time", or the Alexanderplatz World Clock.
We want to see the pictures, Murphy!
Literally just in time!!
When they say a clue is "time", one of the first things to come to mind is that the sculpture looks a lot like a sundial from some angles.
I'm disappointed. None of our Modern Rogues have even noticed the title card.
- Modern Rogue Editing Supervisor
You mean Brian sat considering all the cyphertext? Interesting...
I’m actually trying to translate it right now with grilled cheese (griledchs) as a keyword with a keyword cipher but right now nothing came up
But i think brian saying in live chat that vigenere cipher was used might be related to this but idk lol might be about another ep, still gonna try it!
An MR cypher has to be about Samson & The Chooch.
I just emailed with a cypher I think is pretty cool. Awesome content, Modern Rogue 4 Life ! ! !
This is fascinating! Side note, Jason's beard is looking on point lol
it's basically as majestic and Brians hair.
Love to see a Schrab Home Video t-shirt!
With the text quoting the discovery of the tombs in the pyramids, there is a tunnel at 45deg (IIRC) pointing to the night sky. Using modelling to go back to the star positions at the time the pyramids were built, it has a view of Orion's belt that is no longer visible from that tunnel.
I always liked a good double or triple cypher where the cyphertext can be decoded using more than method to get different messages. They are generally less secure from what i remember, but its still fun to solve then when you realize a cyphertext has multiple meanings.
also the artist including a reference to a living person when he created the sculpture convinces me that he intended for it to be solved fairly quickly, and has messed it up. He probably made a mistake that doesn't make the puzzle unsolvable, but puts it in the category of cracking a OTP (a waste of time)
So the first one suggests the method, the second one suggests the view direction, the third suggests the precise location, the date in reference, language to look for, or the method of discovery, and the clues seem to point to the time which needs to be used perhaps, Berlin being the timezone, the rest being the time and such... maybe... id just be curious if any lighting effects or view paths have changed since then, maybe altering sun beams or the like?
Stand by the grey stone when the thrush knocks, and the setting sun with the last light of Durin's Day will shine upon the key-hole.
we would need exact location to determine positions for shadowplay on art for time and day encryption. so basically some symbols are engraved on and some are completely bored through the clay to create shadowplay on the inside?
What if their are clues to a "fifth puzzle" in each of the four messages?
...I think I just... yep, I just blew my own mind...
Do they really want a repeat of the Diamond Club?
The answers is "yes" and "but even more so."
Brian dropping wrestling terms in relation to real life like a proper 'smark', lol. Makes you wonder if he still watches. (if so, would love a live twitch watch-along on Wednesdays)
Only saying that because I have no idea on the actual topic of the video. Understand the different cipher types, but trying to put stuff together and advance it? Noooooope.
Jason's Kratos voice is actually pretty good
Ooh ooh! I'm in!
Something I'd love to see a modern rogue video about is the worldwide hunt at the end of the Disney show Gravity Falls. Creator Alex Hirsch hid clues and codes all over the world that culminated in a hunt for a statue of the villain Bill Cipher hidden in rural Oregon.
Mandatory Interaction
Guys in case you're reading this, I just want to suggest that you do an episode on the Voynich manuscript! I searched and it seems you haven't done it yet, and it would be right up your alley.
It has been solved and you are probably going to be disappointed by it :-/
@@AlexJade I know. , but it's a cool story to tell anyway! Some people in the audience will not have heard about it.
The third one is a transposition cipher (rearranging the letters), not a substitution cipher (changing the letters)
North-east and clock could refer to the hands of the clock, like 12:15, or 3:00, and Berlin could refer to that specific time in Berlin. Maybe take those “times” and convert them to “Langley” time, and go to those coordinates at said specific time. Idk, maybe I’m an idiot, but alkom’s razer and all that. People tend to over complicate things.
Well Berlin time is GMT +1; ... So if you pointed a clock at north, that was set to that time, and waited till it was pointing northwest, (10:30 am/pm) and translate that to the time in Langley, (GMT -8) then, you'd be dealing with 7:30 am/pm so... Not sure how that helps us. Good thinking though.
Adding to that, perhaps you should do it on the day William Webster became director.
So here's a thought...
Caesar cipher, but multilingual. So the encrypted message makes sense in another language, but the letters have to be shifted to reveal the hidden message.
Now obviously just shifting the letters to make an English message into Spanish is not going to work, because language doesn't work like that. However...many languages don't use the English alphabet, or anything close to it, such as Chinese or Japanese. This means that the Romany expression of words from those languages can be shifted in different ways, and if this is done with multiple languages for a single message, then that means the only way to crack it is to be familiar with a variety of languages and have to decode what is said in those languages into English. It could even be worked the other way with a double Caesar cipher for more complexity. The letters are garbage, they then have to be shifted to make words in a variety of different languages, they then need to be translated into English and then decoded again to get the real message.
Wait... THAT actually might be part of this... As back during one of the world wars, there was a Native American (or First Nations?) language (I believe Navaho) which was the only "code" the axis couldn't break, and this Kryptos could easily be referencing that... Good line.
Looking at that awesome hair and wondering when if I'm going to turn on a video and see it spiked again
It’s a Vernam, most times it was plugged into the formulas we use…it was all four panels…so the fourth side(the key) solved the other three…not that hard to figure out…
Destiney 3's script sounding kinda cool
Now I'm convinced Walter White is a part of the CIA.
Yes, I would like to see the pictures of you photoshopped into Kratos, Jason. Show them.
Heres a crazy thought. we build a modern day Enigma Machine and use that to encode either a rick-roll or recipe for grilled cheese and have that be one of the codes?
so shot in the dark here for the clues at 12:48
BERLIN: the berlin wall
Clock: the red square clock in moscow
so North east of the berlin wall is moscow's red square clock idk if it means anything it just something that clicked in my head
I wonder if the fourth code is in enigma. Capital of Germany, the clock could reference the rotors, and northeast could reference Bletchy Park.
Never thought I'd ask this but... where do I send something if I made it? And how many layers deep do you want it? I've had an idea for a message a few layers deep via various 'secret code styles' and I've never had a reason to actually get off my lazy ass to do it.
I don't know a thing about pottery (or art in general) but at least I can write the thing.
I can't wait until the episodes with Brian's mullet drop
Here's a thought, people are people and they are influenced by their surroundings. In the late 80s when the thing was commissioned the World Clock was commissioned and installed. Thinking about the world Berlin is +8 hours to EST. Furthermore, in the 80s James Bond Octopussy was released to no acclaim, potentially making it to broadcast TV by the time the artist was composing his piece. As he was writing the riddle, perhaps he thought it would be fun to include the spy element and use either Octopussy the movie or Octopussy and The Living Daylights (Fleming's collection of short stories) as a book code. Or perhaps the number 8 and the world clock. When these two make videos like this, and when they research it and talk about it, they are never talking about something happening in a vacuum, but an event that occurs connected to the world at large. What you consume influences what you produce, things that influence you are many. Its interesting that the 'mis-spelling' is Q in illusion, and the third passage asking a question of Q, as in James Bond's tech wizard played by the incredible and amazing Desmond Llewelyn. So perhaps there is something in the dialogue with Llewelyn in Bond films that cracks the thing wide open. Or......following on the Egyptian score, Llewelyn apparently played a senator in the 1963 film Cleopatra which might be the actual "book" for the cipher in combination with "8", or "8" or "20", and either the World Clock, or the Set Theory Clock. All of this would information would have been available to the artist at the time of creation. But, point is, whenever a person creates anything artifacts of their lives sneak into it. And in the case of artists, thats not a mistake its intentional. Thoughts?
10:58 - I got a good giggle from the EAP BS!
Mad early for this one
What would be really great is a wall or something where Rogues submit codes to you two and if they can stump you both, than they get put on the wall.
It's the hair for me 🤣
Governments and their affiliated screwing things up wouldn't surprise me in the tree least, but misspelling things also sounds like a fairly valid technique of making codebreaking more difficult.
Has the Modern Rogue covered CICADA 3301 before?
Is the Roguemobile still sitting in the property?
Berlin, clock, north east.....if it was a book I would think "all quiet on the western front "
I was also getting ww2 vibes.
And my first thought about this is "Why *the fuck* is the only movie about this a 3-year-old short film starring two Afflecks that aren't even related to Ben?!"
C'mon Hollywood, stop with the reboots...You've got your National Treasure 3 right here...!
The way you can see Jason lip syncing the lines at the very beginning 😂 how many takes did it take?
Go to those coordinates on the time of the opening of King Tut's tomb
SOS ( O,U Underground) ( SUS OSS, Underground SS, Underground slowly see )
RQ ( Removed illusion) between R words K3. (Q,L illusion K1)
K0/LEX Has the keys,laws,rules,cross checks, 5 layer checks. They missed the formatting leasons from K0/LEX. They missed the X's for spaces. 8:01 He didn't mess up. It's a step missed. You add X's at steps and ?. Steps. 9:23 WW turns into WSW to match east north east and the compass rose. 10:27 multiple locations. The load stone gets a X from a Palimpsest layer. Both sides change. M word layer Memory magnetic message X ( X is special key ) minutes six point five seconds north seventy seven degrees eight minutes made a mist X. (Between minutes hidden rules for most ). Invisable between breach buried Treasure. V/5 B/4+1 layer. Invisable between buried breach but.
Invisable K0 check to K3 in open. Drag (EEE)INVISABLE X) over to K3. Then do K0 steps.
M layer Palimpsest K0-3. Memory magnetic message X minutes six point five seconds north seventy seven degrees eight minutes made a mist X.
K0/LEX meanings. Protector of human kind, Alexander, Alexius, rules, laws. Keep off,turn aside, protect, help.
Kryptos a multi headed hydra. Tiamat godess of dragons and the mother of Alexander/LEX. LEX L class/leason Lady LEX WW2.
HYDRA station at camp X. Hydra missile. 5 hydras WW2 layer. XX Double cross WW2 layer Double agents Treasure cross checks to the Egyptian layer. WW2 D-Day map links to the E's/X's 1-5 also rank/class. So much they missed. Berlin links to K0 B in invisable. X after clock. X a check.
Tale tis the absence of light lies the totally invisable hows that possible ? The Y used the X the Y transmitted this ? Thirty two X
Slowly the remains that encumbered the lower part of the doorway with trembling hands a tiny breach in the upper and then widening the hole inserted the candle in the hot air escaping from the chamber caused the flame to flicker but presently details of the room within emerged from the mist X.
Many layers. A lot of unpacking. Leasons or classes. Directions within the text. WW2 Olimpus Greek latin english transliteration and obfuscation.
Station X, camp X, X corps, Agent X, X ship. Y station Alexander and Y station hydra. Operation gold, gold beach, gold fish/phish. Ghost stations and ghost army and ghost whisper. So much missed. Berlin modeled like Luxor. Cipher codex to book of wisdom/knowledge and shadow side the book of power. Leason how to see through lies with knowledge and wisdom. Growing roses and wind rose and rose of the winds. Spy references. Alexander plats to Rosa Luxemburg. A spy off to the city of lights. This only shows some of what was missed.
We are still waiting for the Scooby-Doo episode
Me: Going to bed
Mosquito: 11:18
“Mengenlehreuhr” sounds like that might have something to do with Berlin clock northeast idk
OK, fine, if nobody else will, I'll say it: There was no 90 MHz Pentium 2
Makes me think of National Treasure
wait.......in treasure hunts "X" marks the spot.....there are a lot of "x's" in the second puzzle....and the curvy shape of the statue......what if on a specificic day of the year all the "x"s shadows line up, and THAT is where the thing is buried ?
"'DO YOU SMELL TOAST?!''
You guys also have rogue designers out here too hey...
The hints he has given are: BERLIN, CLOCK, NORTH EAST, EAST
where EASTNORTHEAST is a part of it, and BERLINCLOCK is another part of it.
is it the clock tower in Prague ? )mission Impossible) ...lol
When you think it's about cryptocurrencey:
"Interesting"
When you realize it's about cryptography: "VERY interesting"
You absolutely must involve a physical deck of cards being shuffled for random number generation.
it's a simple one, but on the note of occlusion, you could have a scannable code of some sort, like a QR code, since they have auto-correcting parts included, and can also store somewhat decent amounts of data. which could be useful in the space of using shadows.
Has anyone thought about the "reflection pool"? Just curious 😜