George Janko PRESSED by Jordan Peterson on S*X Before Marriage
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Ruslan can you point to that background art of JC ?
There was a Ghost at 40:22 at the George Janko Video
George commented!!! Time for you guys to do a collab
One thing about believe in God you cannot ask anyone about his faith or h love to God or love Jesus because that's not a question you can ask anyone because everybody love God and his own way believe me if anyone love God with all his heart no one will lie for once if you lie once that mean you broken commandment anyone broken one Commandment that mean you don't love God from all your heart Example the liar it is the devil bed we lie we are bad Even Moses give God time any questioning God's over and over if he believed in God from all his heart he will not question God that's example and thank you man and God bless you
Timothy Keller wrote a great book called Meaning of Marriage that talks about a lot of this.
Just to clarify!! I am having a wedding! I’m just curious about my deep thoughts. NOT saying it’s right, just looking for the answer ❤️
GEORGE!!!
We appreciate your honesty and humility, George. Most wouldn’t speak publicly of this for worry of how the society will react, but you shining light on your struggles and seeking solutions will ultimately help us, listeners, all as a whole. God bless you and your family.
Ayye it’s George !
Exactly. We're all just imperfect people and as Christians we're just simply seeking truth. Blessings George. ❤
Thank you for raising this topic into the discussion. It is the topic that worth discussing indeed.
If a man and women are willing to wait for marriage until having intimacy, then during marriage they won’t seek it outside of marriage.
Period
It hits home, especially when he talks about his gf. I now realize that I pushed my ex to sinful behavior too and away due to my bad behavior related to sex. I'm not a christian but the more informed I get about this religion, the more it looks like the religion of Truth. The constraints on sex in Christianity aren't there for no reason
It is brother! Pray to God in the name of Christ to show you the truth of it I promise he will manifest himself.
God bless you! ❤
This is good to hear brother. He is the truth. He is the way. He is, the life.
Jesus loves you!!! I pray you have a crazy supernatural experience with Jesus!!!! ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
It is the truth brother, and the truth will set you free. Open your heart to Jesus. Seek the lord and you WILL find him. Ask him to speak to you and step out in faith and he WILL.
I had 1 girlfriend before my wife while I was a Christian. I had a moment in my mind where I felt “this is my wife” I can just sleep with her. But when I brought it to God he revealed this was an attack from the enemy and I decided it was not the right thing to do so I didn’t. Me and that girl broke up…if I had done that I would not have been faithful to my true wife in that moment! Or I may have even ended up with a child outside of wedlock and never even have found my amazing God ordained wife I have today!
I know, obeying God just makes life easier. What a blessing that you were obedient and reaped the rewards.
Wonderful testimony. Thank God you submitted under His authority. How I wish I had taken a different path concerning fornication. I still feel the brokenness even though I am forgiven. Now I’m seeking the Lord concerning my future. God bless you. I pray your marriage grows from strength to strength.
and your current wife has 40 bodies right?🤣🤣.Life is unfair
Amen
At 31, My wife and I got married at our house, with just a few ppl attending and her dad (pastor) married us under God. Little to no money spent and I am so glad we did it.
This was very common during the lockdown
god bliss your family, thank God you had what it takes to step up, this year I will be 30 but I'm too weak to even dream about starting a familly. may the lord watch over all of you.
@@samfisher1964 weak financially?
@@hustlersgame8759 characteristic
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She is also responsible for the purity of their marriage. If she set a boundary, it will be interesting to see how serious George was with the “we’re married in spirit”. Ladies, we need to guard our hearts and souls too - don’t just wait for the man. It takes courage and true trust in God for both. That way you can glorify God as well.
Spot on
Agreed. What is her opinion on this? A lot of this conversation is about her
no women wil listen
My exact thoughts when watching the podcast!
Amen!
Jordan Peterson's jackets are getting more unhinged
He's truly in his Hero Arc
Not sure it’s unhinged as it’s just called style ?
His style is getting more and more unhinged!😂
The one thing I love with George is that he will fully wrestle through an idea in the podcast. Then the Lord will send someone on the pod that can reach him when he is ready to hear it. It’s like when he talked about cussing with Cliff and Stuart but then the Bible girls came and they spoke to him and he was ready to receive.
Amen
That’s a great point, beautifully said
Jordan's answer to the first question is 100% on point. Christians ought to be careful about saying they do love Christ with all their heart. Our words ought not be cheap and God may very well put those claims to the test.
I hope He does it just makes us verify the claims and adjust
Serious KUDOS to George for having this conversation publicly.
Yeah I definitely wouldn't have been brave enough to say it
My wife and I were each other’s first and waited for marriage. Not from lack of opportunity or temptation with others. God kept us both from it and preserved us for each other. My wife is my greatest blessing in life that I don’t deserve. To share that much more with her can’t be put into words.
I went through something similar with my now wife. I felt conflicted every time we fornicated. I did not have have money at the time so I told my pastor what was going on. We got married within 5 days. I now have peace knowing this is what God wanted. We now have his favor. Men that say “Oh the courts will be against you if y’all divorce or she’s gonna take half your money" already lost. My decision is not of this world, it is of God. He will continue to bless us. I am so happy years later and know as the rock of the house my mission on this earth is to make sure she and our kids (when we have them) all make it to heaven. It’s not being rich, generational wealth being popular or anything else.
Well im so happy it worked out for you, but many many other christians were in the same situation as you, thinking the same things and guess what, it fell apart because they married way too young without even knowing each other just so they can have sex. So this is rather an exception than a rule that it worked out for you
My husband and I lived together for several years, then one day it didnt feel right anymore. We spent several months living apart and celebate and then we found a pastor who agreed to marry us. It was a very small ceremony, we only invited 4 people. A year later our parents through us a reception to celebrate and allow us to receive gifts. If you want it to work, you can make it work.
Celibacy after the fact is weird…
@@Hwd371 It's weird to think you can be repentant and continue to sin. It's like a dog returning to his vomit. There is also spiritual growth that comes with asceticism.
@@schatzi321 once you have sex, you are “married”. The covenant is sealed. Some pastor nor paper changes that it brings any value.
I dont think this convo was about "can this work"..the convo was about how GOD defines marriage compared to how the world defines it
@@WusWrongWitUs the first biblical marriage is Adam and Eve. No pastor or paper.
Gf and i lived together before getting married. We made a commitment to stop having sex for a year before getting married. We did it. God honored that. We honored ourselves. We got married , and sex after that was incredible. Glad we made that choice.
Was wondering who would tbh...love George, I believe he wishes to do the right thing but he's got a ton of maturing in Christ to do, as many of us do. I love watching Christ do His work in us. George is an honest guy, seeking Truth, and I pray that he doesn't compromise.
@@johnnybigg7772: As he loves everyone because he gave his life for all.
He was trying to find a loophole in the scriptures
@@johnnybigg7772That's known but he needs a bit of humbling and discreción of disclosing this info to such a large audience, it should be done in privacy with God.
@@Víctor-c9g8u I don't believe so, yes you should confess your sins to God but there is nothing wrong with voicing it to his audience with humility and saying he knows it is wrong.
We all do the only difference is he’s open about it completely and most Christians are not they hide their sin to not get judged cuz we both know the church love to do that more then love one another
He was looking for the way the Bible expects us to get married, but remember, in Joseph's engagement to Mary , he would not touch her, pre knowledge of Jesus' birth, until their ceremony.
I think that's a liiiiitttle bit of a different thing, as she was pregnant with Jesus that would seem a little sacrilege- I think the whole point was for him to be born of a Virgin
@@BreMueno he did not touch her even before knowing about jesus. You are not supposed to, it is in the law.
In Jewish Marriage Ceremonies there are 2 stages.
Much of the details are lost in modern times because of the disconnect from Tradition.
The consummation didn't take place as its traditionally held; they validated the marriage contract via their mutual decision to abstain. Some religions state it wasn't the case:
Some may have heard the line "New Ark of the Covenant" references Mary being Tabernacle as she carried Jesus in her womb...
The Word of God Housed such Detailed steps (if one reads Old Testament/Exodus, the First Book of Kings etc) for the Tablets of the Law...
Then *what* would God fashion for His only Son as a Vessel?
The perpetual virginity was commonly held by all Christians. Even the early Protestants believed in Mary’s perpetual virginity.
Would you mind providing the verses that state marriage is done via a ceremony (like modern marriage) and sealed with a ring?
If you love her, just marry her George. It's way more simple than you're making it
Very true, I don't understand why people wait. Are they waiting for the relationship to fail?
They’re engaged so
I think George's question is "what constitutes marriage?" and "why is it that way". To marry means to bring two separate things together as one. We marry metals together in metallurgy. So IF the covenant between man and woman before God IS the marriage then the ceremony is something different. Like the covenant God makes with His elect in the moment of conversion, it's different than a public baptism. The baptism isn't the conversion, it's just a public proclamation
I think his point is basically that he may ALREADY be married, which I believe is technically right. I don't recall anything in Scripture requiring a ceremonial public display, good as they may be. As Ruslan pointed out, God instituted marriage as a leaving of parents and cleaving to wife, becoming one flesh; no ceremony mentioned. Adam and Eve were married but I doubt they took vows before an ordained minister of some kind. Again, not saying weddings are bad or shouldn't be had, just that I don't think they technically are what validates a marriage in God's eyes.
@@zanderdoyle2449 he just doesn't want to lose half his shit in divorce
Notice how Peterson who isn't even Christian, with simple logic and less "but..but.. I feel.." reinforces what the scripture says. We all do these mental gymnastics trying to justify our "feelings" and "desires", and this is where we fall.
you know that Peterson is full believer in Christ right?
@@antoniotoma778nope. He hasn't given his life to the Lord.
@User47HD 😂 what do you mean by that.
He clearly understands the bible more than George 🤦🏼♂️
@@Gorilla_warfare So does Satan.
“If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written: “’He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’” Matthew 4:6
I felt the same way before getting baptized. My mentor asked my why I haven’t been baptized yet and I told him that I’ve been baptized by The Spirit. He then told me, that even tho I have been baptized by The Spirit, Jesus was baptized and told us we should be baptized to publicly declare our faith to our community. I feel the same way about marriage. We are told in scripture about a king preparing a marriage banquet for his son…and His Son is a reference to our Lord and Savior, Jesus. We should publicly acknowledge our marriage.
Just my thought on this.
Hey, just understand that baptism is optional. Absolutely we should all be baptized, but it isn’t something that prevent us from going into heaven. it’s evident with that when Jesus is on the cross with the two other thieves that the thief was able to recognize Jesus and be saved.
I’m sure that in other circumstances, he would’ve eventually get baptized, feed the needy and tend to Gods people
@@Trickyrocket1998 You're right baptism doesn't save us but it should absolutely NOT be treated as optional. Jesus commands us to be baptised in the Great Commission (Matt 28v19-20). The very first sermon preached in the book of Acts (straight after Pentecost and the imparting of the Holy Spirit) commands repentance AND baptism. If you love Jesus, and love His Word and have received His amazing salvation by grace, and if you are to be baptised then the God's Word is absolutely clear - you must be baptised. Not so that you will be saved, but for the sake of obedience by faith.
There are Christians who believe Baptism is through the spirit as well, the same way Heorge speaks about marriage through the spirit.
Oh and the first pastor we got our first premarital counseling said to both of us but always reffered to my husband first! " if you are having sex cut it out!" Wait until your wedding day!" And this i will never forget! He said " because sex is alot of fun its a gift from God but if you both are building your relationship on sex is not going to work out it might for a few years but it will come apart" praise Jesus!
From what I can tell, nobody asks the girl what she thinks. If she is weak or if she doesn’t care about the premarital sex… that would tell a lot about her faith which would need to be considered before marriage.
Love this conversation! A much needed one for young Christians today!
God Bless George.. I feel is one of the few influencers spreading the Gospel. You can tell he knows God's Word and is being guided by the Holy Spirit. Lord I pray you use him to your glory and your Kingdom. In Jesus name. Amen. 🙏
George has my respect as a man of God who is so transparent with his internal spiritual struggles. More people should be vulnerable and honest about this.
Big fan here of your content George and congrats on your engagement!
Respect for George for being so vulnerable
Hope you and George can have a conversation!
Perfect timing. I was pondering about the institution of marriage recently, reflecting on my brother's relationship- he's having a kid soon, my nephew, but he and his fiance aren't married yet. Like George I was finding it difficult to identify the idea of marriage as a mandatory ceremony in the Bible exactly, and more than a feeling (like Isaac and Rebekah). It's often forgotten that marriage is a public proclamation of being bonded to your significant other. It parallels with being baptized with water, a public proclamation to your devotion to Christ.
This makes so much sense
I can relate to this so much, I was in a similar situation with my fiancée, but I would say it was conviction + my desire to honor God to go to the courthouse and finalize our marriage and now I’ve been happily married to her for 2 months and it’s been amazing but I also had to realize and ask myself do I trust God and his ways. Because like George I was so confused about why I needed the certification if we’ve been doing life together for so long but what I learned is when you step out in faith and follow Jesus and his ways even though I still wanted to go my own way it leads to peace, Shame & guilt fade, and it’s so freeing. So super thankful for this conversation and praying for George! 🙏🏻
Thanks for speaking on this. I’ve heard this thought process circulating. It’s important that people understand the “why” from open conversations.
What I look at it, is the same way I look at baptism when you get saved. Baptism is a outward expression of a inward change. At baptism its publicly showing others that I have followed Christ, with not just more words but with my actions. At the wedding ceremony you go before everyone and have to humble yourself and tell the world I will love and protect my spouse with my dying breath. Its a covenant not just between you and your spouse, but also your church and local community.
so u need a man to certify your marriage not god?
i’m not trying to even sound rude I just genuinely don’t understand why you need a government document to be committed when you can promise to god this is your person and ask for his approval
what about people who don’t have the money for a wedding?
@@blupac23 Its free to go to the court house and sign the certificate. Marriage isn't just something between the two people an God its also a profession before your friends, family and community that your promise to love each other the way God tells us to love each other. Plus the bible models throughout that we should have a ceremony when you get married, Jesus' first miracle was at a wedding.
@@GalaxyGeeksi understand but setting up a ceremony is not free or cheap in any way shape or form u pay for food u pay for the guests that attend i’ve seen people in my family get married it’s expensive im just saying do you truly believe if you don’t have the money for that but stay faithful to one person and make that promise to god he’s gonna send you into the lake of fire for that? cuz you couldn’t have a ceremony it just doesn’t make much sense to me
I was 18, my husband was 19 when we went to the courthouse to get married. We got married while wearing jeans and we found 2 random people off the street to be our witnesses. Our families (especially mine) were totally against us getting married. My mom did absolutely everything in her power to prevent me from seeing/communicating with my now husband at the time. So even if we had the money at the time to throw a “real wedding” I know her and several family members of mine would of not attended anyways..
Here we are 7 years later, and I still think that marrying him was the best decision I ever made.
George, just get married! Stop doing the mental gymnastics!! If my husband and I, who were teenagers, without the support of our families had the balls to get married, why can’t you?
i hope u did not cheat on him
@@THEoneandonlystikawhat??
The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9
The Bible takes precedence over our feelings and personal convictions.
spiritual gymnaistics. lmao. fr. felt the same exact way. he wants permissioin to do what he believes to be wrong. on the upside, it seem Jordan has a far greater understanding of this, and I think that is his dilemma on the "intrusive question".
I needed to see this. 5 years ago before I allowed Jesus into my life, I felt this "married in my heart feeling". I convinced the most blessed Christian girlfriend that we were married in our hearts, and we ended up sleeping. together. Neither of us were virgins by any stretch, but she had always been married before this. When we didn't stay together I didn't think much about it.
A part that hurts, is that she was the one that lead me to opening the door to Jesus. I continued my pursuit to know Jesus and it wasnt until then i realized what i had done. I feel like I unintentionally manipulated her.
I pray that Jesus lays that blame on me. She was vaulnerable and I was covered in sin.
It seems that George is doing the same to his fiance. I just wish she was stronger in the faith, put God FIRST and just say "NO!" to George until marriage.
@@arreola891 I wish we were all stronger, but praise God when we receive our Glorified bodies for we will never bring shame to ourselves or to our God ever again.
Did you guys break up? Are you going back together?
@@Joejoyoyoyo unfortunatley I don't think we will ever get back together no. I believe she has moved on, but it's been almost 5 years since this happened.
I truely feel that God is calling me to be single for now. He has given me an amazing dog as a companion for now and I am happy just focusing on my relationship with Jesus.
I lived a very promiscuous early adulthood. Loylts of partying, drinking, drugs and premarital sex with many partners. I have had my fun my way, now I feel it's time to focus on doing things God's way for a while.
Praise Jesus for his sacrafice and commitment to us.
@@Joejoyoyoyo we did break up yes, I see no chance of us getting back together unfortunatley. She struggles with being single and moves on very quickly.
I have stayed single since then for about 4 or so years now
Like all of us, George needs discipleship. I sincerely trust that he is rooted in a local church and not being a lone ranger. The church is one body, many parts.
We all fall short of the glory! These are the conversations we need to be having! Shoutout to george
I’ve battled this myself. I didn’t feel guilty once I proposed to my now fiancé and I look at her as my wife. We also wanted to get married then have a ceremony, but we didn’t get that blessing from our Pastor. I agree that it can be dangerous if anything happens that causes the marriage not to take place.
Just curious what was the pastors view on why he wouldn’t do it under those guises?
@@lowccperformance4059 it’s because he believes it’s more honorable to have an actual ceremony. It’s pointless to even do the ceremony if we are just going to get legally married in the courts. Our wedding is taking time due to getting the funds in order.
@@kylekenney4758 What??? I believe he has no idea what he is talking about. My spouse and I married in the courtroom, surrounded by several members of our immediate family. Our witnesses were my husband's grandparents. It was beautiful. We'll still have a huge wedding when we can afford it. Don't let anyone discourage you from getting married in a court room. Your pastor is only a man. Not God. God sees the heart; therefore, He doesn’t care about what room your wedding takes place or how many people are attending. At the end of the day, would you rather spend your days in fornication or pleasing your Father in marriage?
Remember this. All fall short. Our good deeds are as filthy rags to God. No one can even live up to the 1st commandment. And not living in the 1st commandment is sin. Jesus is all we have to save us. Nothing else. May God Bless You.
Still have to obey christ and keep his commandments.
Faith without works is dead
@CMA418 we judge their sins in the next life not this one. Only basic judgment here.
Just to clarify, they're not filthy rags.
Hebrews 13:16: "And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased."
Good works don't give us salvation but that doesn't mean God isn't pleased with good deeds. We are commanded to do good deeds and be lights in the world
cheeky antinomianism. We cannot do it perfectly, but it does not mean we can try. Read romans 6.
He's trying to excuse having sex before marriage thats all that is. He wants to have the fun without the concrete commitment before God and witnesses to the union.
Steel sharpening steel. When Christians (including Prof) improve each other. It encourages others to see Christians are also humans.
Loved the way you discussed this Ruslan and I’ve loved how George has confronted things on his podcast, whether it be this or the use of language. I do believe George is doing some “spiritual gymnastics” as you called it.
Pray for these two people
I listened to this podcast on a road trip with my grown sons. I told them to be very careful about ignoring traditions. They are the result of hundreds or thousands of years of knowledge and wisdom. Sure, some make no sense, but many times you are unaware of the underlying value of them.
Great commentary on that conversation. Love it!
To any extant that you can it's always best to do things God's way, because it leads to greatest blessings and least regret. That's something I've come to find from my own life.
I've not watched all of Ruslan's material...just a fair amount of clips he's put out. But this is the first time, certainly recently, that I've seen him "rebuke" or speak the truth in love to another person that operates in his space. It's definitely needed here. The type and amount of mental gymnastics that George undertakes here to justify his behavior is astronomical. And he does it regularly...like with the swearing being okay. I understand that Ruslan needs to try to be careful so that he gets guests and invited on other podcasts/channels. But I'd like to see a little more of this and a little less of George-is-great..when George is clearly in his spiritual infancy. Moving in the right direction...but LOTS of room to grow.
George is doing good. Remember God is finishing the work he has began in us.
@@NinaR1738 He's doing okay for a spiritual newbie. But he has a platform, and is given way more leniency than he should be. And it only adds to the watering down of our culture and foundation of a nation forged on Christian principles. "Married in our hearts"? Seriously??!! Dudes in the 80s used that line when they wanted to "live in sin" with someone...back when THAT wasn't socially acceptable by culture. We are supposed to be in this world, not of it. And every time someone that has influence on Christianity or possible Christians tries to do backflips around the scripture to justify sin, it MUST be called out.
@@hrhopeful1120 completely agree that these things need to be kindly rebuked. It can lead to a lot of abuse if we don't handle these topics carefully
I was nervous where this video was going but you tied it all in together. Well done brother and AMEN to everything you said.
-from your reformed brother from Boston
I also appreciate george for his transparensy. Not about how he was done something wrong but for what he's trying to change his habit.
The hardest part watching this video is how passive the fiance is. Why isn't she also putting her foot down on no sex until marriage? It's weak guiding the weak. This whole exchange was what's George thinking and feeling, not a joint couples conversation where Jordan should have asked her, how do you feel about sex before marriage,
? Do you feel it's necessary to marry before sex and living together? Her thoughts matter here as well. If she is ambilevant on these questions or wishy washy, she can't hold George accountable. If she said abstinence before marriage and I'm moving out until the ceremony, and he can't honor that and dumps her, than he never was a beliver in the first place.
Yes true
I felt the same way. It's all about George. He wants to have the cake and eat it too. Why buy the cow if you get the milk for free.
It’s possible she wasn’t comfortable participating in the conversation.
@@SarahNelsonWA Then she shouldn't be there.
It's not if we love God. it's how God loves us
Our love is but dirty rags compared to Our God
No you also need to love God
Loving God is the first commandment. Everything else flows from that. We owe it to Him.
This is how you know if you know God.
1 John 5:1-5 KJV
[1] Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. [2] By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. [3] For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. [4] For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. [5] Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?"
no its are works are filthy rags not our love! Loving God is our first commandment Isiah64:6@@roshinvarghese6879
You should get George on the Pod!!
I have worn a cross necklace as far back as I can remember. I'm sorry but there's no way I would take it off for any reason especially that.. My faith in the Lord is strong and my cross represents my faith and that the Lord is always with me protecting me. If someone is getting a little weird about someone wearing a cross maybe that person needs to check themselves before going further 🙏🙏🙏
Its because when he does the deed with his girlfriend he is ashamed of himself. Not because he is ashamed of the cross. Think of every bad thing you have ever done in your life and just imagine how bad you would feel if Jesus was standing right there when you did it.
If you sin, you don’t love God enough to not sin. Jordan is on a different level with his response of loving God with “all” your heart. If you loved God with ALL your heart, you would not sin. While that’s a nice sentiment to proclaim, it’s not TRUE if you are a sinner. That is why we are on a journey continually seeking Christ.
Yes Ruslan 👏🏻 I love your take on this
Praise Jesus Christ
So Does George Janko have a mentor? or a Pastor that He submits to ? because that would be a big gamechanger in his life
If you love me, you will obey all my commands. Who has obeyed all of his commands perfectly? Therefore, who has loved God with all of their heart?
We have gotten so confused about things that used to be clear.
They are still clear.They are there in the bible
Satan is all about confusion…
This is basically the same argument people have when they say they don’t want to include the state and what is the difference between living together and signing a piece of paper
🤦🏻♂️
I love Janko he is striving to do the Word of God , God is the searcher of hearts He sees you heart that after Him
So, I felt the exact same way originally, but think about it like baptism, when you marry the church. You can "be a part of the church" in your mind, but God wants us to go through the ceremony of Baptism to proclaim it amongst men to sort of finalize the matter.
How many sexually immoral verses do we need to surface to get this part right?🔥
Facts
Literally
People know what has been commanded of them. It's not a lack of knowledge, they don't need more verses, they get it. They understand. It's about having your cake and eating it too. Premarital sex is the one thing that most Christians don't seem to be willing to give up in following Christ.
@@bobcobb158 With the Lake of Fire as a consequence, one has to wonder.🔥
does not matter your deep Thoughts" its what god commands us to do. Its that simple. Keep up the good work spreading the truth of Jesus Christ.
I know one of my former bible study teacher.
He had his family, wife's family, & pastor to officially married them. But he had an actual ceremony later with friends the year after
My parents were virgins when the got married and signed marital papers 7 months before there wedding. Needless to say my sister was in my mother’s belly during the wedding ceremony.
The loving God with all your heart question is interesting and profound, because one could say they love someone like that but have they examined their hearts and intentions thoroughly. Things can arise that makes you notice that it's conditional to certain aspects. It's important to always have in mind the heart is deceitful above all things.
To trully know if you love someone, first examine how much realistically your willing to put in the table for them (i.e. "take a bullet for them") and be honest and clear with that person in where your feelings lie, knowing that with time you'll come to realize if your love deepens or stagnates.
The same principle applies with our relationship with our Creator, we'll never love him as he does but we can examinen if we're doing it earnestly.
Bro got cold feet. He ain't ready to be married & he knows it
@cptheartist
No, it’s called spiritual warfare. Satan hates marriage.
@TimothyNyota
Naw.
As a Gen Z, I need this wisdom so much. Huge thank you to these great men ❤
Please seek wisdom from Scripture because man is still deeply flawed and won't get everything right but God's word is 100% without error.
THE BIBLE IS CLEAR
The moment you actually say I DO something supernatural happens... IDK how to explain it but it's true. My unmarried self seems so foolish now that I look back though the clarity marriage provides.
God doesn’t care if you feel like you’re married. He wants you to marry. Every fornicator would think they’re married. Let’s not change God’s words.
Married couples who don’t sterilize their wife or themselves with contraception have almost a 0% divorce rate.
Glad to hear that children of divorce don't exist.
Facts. Contraception is a mortal sin in itself. Fruit of modernism
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 new subbie from Nigeria!
I want biblical retort not messages that massage my sinfulness.
I also appreciate the question George asked .
The best advice for George and many men in this dilemma of playing like a married couple and convincing themselves it is okay, a cause of going off their heart or how they personally feel when the word of God is clear, was given at 8:17... "Just marry her".
George is incredibly well off compared to the general person, and this is an excuse the general person uses...So, clearly, this excuse has nothing to do with finances...
"Just marry her", brother, "Just marry her."
God bless you Ruslan KD and my George take your fantastic advice. Peace with you all! We must set the right example for those who are watching us and, most importantly, obey the Lord.
No spiritual gymnastics!
She is either your sister in Christ or your wife - Get married instead of burning with passion.
Amazing content!
As a young man in the dating scene, it blows my mind how many single moms there are below 22 years old. This is not just a religious issue. It’s a socioeconomic ethical problem because kids need a dad. Sleeping around before marriage is just irresponsible and selfish. The lack of self control in my generation is just sad. It’s just hard for me to have attraction at my age to a woman who has been with other guys. There is always going to be a stronger bond between two people who have only been intimate together without anyone else. I wouldn’t want my wife sleeping with other guys while we’re married, so why should I be fine with her sleeping with any guys before marriage? The same is most certainly applicable to me as well. Finding a woman with traditional values in regards to intimacy nowadays is finding the diamond in the rough
I think Jordan Peterson’s answer was perfect and truthful. While we might (and hopefully) aspire to love Jesus Christ with all of our hearts, not one of us is capable of it in our flesh. We are selfish, idolatrous humans, and that’s exactly why we need Christ.
He means we always have to improve in our love for Christ. We never love Christ with all of our hearts and minds. How different the world would be if we did.
You and Janko should have a pod discussion!!!!!!!
I struggle with this too .. me and my girl have been together for 14 years (I’m 31 she’s gonna be 30) we have an 8 year old and a baby on the way..we live a married life but it’s just not documented by the state or court .. we love and honor one another we work as a team …no one has been able to give me clarity about this
I think the legal benefits and security is the only reason I am planning a legal marriage - my fiance and I have been engaged for 5 years now and we just don't want to deal with all the pomp and circumstance that comes with a wedding
@@BreMuewe became Christian’s 1 year ago .. we want to be obedient to God but it just doesn’t make sense to me why it has to be documented .. I’ve been trying to find clarity about it
@@BreMueI understand the legal part of it and the financial too but I don’t see how it ties in to what God wants
@@Belowthaheavenz: Paper trail does solidify the legacy. When your great great grandchildren look at the linage on paper, they’ll see the woman you decided to give your last name. I consider it powerful when it’s legally documented generations later knowing that it was logged as such.
Just get married. What are you afraid of?
marriage being socially substantiated
a profession of the heart covenant to the public for their edification and acknowledgement is essential & underrated w.r.t. what it means to be married
that's why i learned from this video, and i wasn't quite thinking about this
My issue as a man and marriage is that I cannot marry my wife without marrying the government.
That if she proves to be unfaithful she still gets all the benefits of me being a provider because the government will take all of my assets and give it to her. But I get no benefits of having a wife when she decides to leave or cheat?
What do we do about that?
Couldn’t agree more, I was married for 3 years and wife just decided to walk out on the marriage. I never once cheated or hurt her in any way and always did my part as a Christian to provide for her and make sure she is spiritually close to God. Now she took my little child from me and forced me to get a lawyer so I could see my child and best I could do is get to see him every other weekend. Couldn’t fight for him because I don’t make much yet as I’m starting a new career. To sum things up government should not be involved in a marriage that god put together. If a spouse decides to leave the marriage with no reason or if they betrayed the spouse there should be no trading of assets and child should automatically be split custody.
Get a prenup
A bible teacher I use to listen to claimed that Christians divorced just as much as the unbelieving world. So it is understandable for any Christian man to be concerned about this. After all its not going to be these Christians who say to get married and damned be the consequences who are going to pick up the pieces when the marriage falls apart.
you can get married religiously or spiritually and not sign papers, that means its not legally binding but its still a marriage.
Well, you're not marrying the government. The government is recognizing your vows of marriage with a license which you can take to any institution to present as tangible evidence of your union. Some of the legal benefits for you both are tax breaks, health/life insurance benefits, and legal paternity for all of your children while married.
When you marry, you tell the government that your spouse is your family and has access to your assets, including money and real property. That's what you declare when you marry and request a license. If you decide to break this contract, your spouse would be entitled to her share of the assets the same as any contractual partner. Were she to have more assets, you would walk away with some. It's reasonable to expect that to happen.
Now if you don't want her to be considered your family, I would strongly advise you to NOT marry as you don't want to adhere to a fundamental tenet which was ordained by God upon its creation. Of course, I'm speaking in generalities as every state has their own specific marital laws and I would highly suggest you do your research on them. Hope that answers your question!
I think it's also important to understand what a covenant is, particularly in the context of the Ancient Near East. A general definition of a covenant is "a solemn agreement with oaths and/or promises, which imply certain sanctions or legality." So while a covenant is an agreement, it is also legal, and thus authoritative, in its very nature. There is a lot to be said about its structure but two solid books regarding biblical covenant are, "Sacred Bond: Covenant Theology Explored" by Brown & Keele and "The Structure of Biblical Authority" By Meredith G. Kline It can be easy to use biblical terms or concepts without having a full understanding of what they mean. I say this because I used to do the same and still sometimes catch myself doing so.
I do not believe the courthouse or judges should be the one doing that, now a priest or pastor yes I fully support for the one simple fact that it is a promise made in front of god..
Where does it say in scripture that marriage needs to be performed by a priest or pastor? I’m genuinely curious, been having this same conversation with my significant other.
I still fell shame with fooling around and being engaged with my now husband! And when our wedding date got closer we took premarital counseling with our pastors at or church because that was the requirement to get married at our church. But all glory be to God. Because sin is still sin! Even if you have " peace" with it! And" feel" ok avout it or good" see thats just your flesh and the enemy talking! Not the word of God!
I too, can be concerned about people taking some of George’s thoughts and running with them, however I think his podcast is a NET POSITIVE, because so few people are bold enough to be that vulnerable with their questions, struggles, sins. Especially AT THE first stages of strongholds, or thought processes that attempt to raise themselves up above the knowledge of God (even though we do not realize it, because they’re INTEGRATED with our thoughts, but the WORD DIVIDES like surgery; God is Healer!
Brilliant Ruslan 💯💯👏
George needs to have Jonathon Pageau on big time. And do 10% of the talking.
“We love God but we don’t know how to OBEY God!” BINGO‼️ That is MOST proclaimed Christians.😑
Im Happy George is getting married but he knows this is his flesh talking. And to wait until Marriage is a gift from God. The same way the Holy Spirit came through George to call out Logan about his relationship with Christ should be applied here.
I want to drop in and make a response to the study. My wife moved in with me before we were married and so far we've been together for 13 years and married for 10. I do let God rule my life though and I think that's biggest factor of all when looking at the overarching field of marriage whether it's secular or religious in nature.
People who are right for eachother and meant to be, will be and those who are not won't, no matter what order you do things in...
I have a similar experience. The reason why we still don't have a "wedding ceremony" is because, in my country, weddings ceremony means inviting hundreds of family members which means a lot of money. I don't want to do that, but if not it would be a Drama. I can go the local church though, but that would stir the drama too. Then, what is the point to wed in a church but have to keep it secret, isn't that even worse ? Marriage for me is not only about sex, now we are living long distance actually, it all about how we make decisions in life. I think it would be great if the society discuss more about wedding and marriage. Most of the people that choose to not marry (have a wedding) in my country have similar reasons with me. Since they not know the difference between wedding and marriage, there mentality stay the same during the time. It is so sad to see those relationships falling apart. I think there is a difference between just feeling and acknowledging the covenant though.
In my case, we have not yet been in a physical state to get a certificate or held a wedding. Before realization, it was a time of confusion and we fought with each other more frequently, then we were brought to this realization. We already offered a promise for life and mean it, so for us the covenant is activated. With this realization, we fight less and less. We treat each other according to the biblical teachings and it saves our marriage. This requires a lot of faith to do so. Ceremony or certificate mean nothing to us, but the promise that we made to one another and to God is everything.
The monogamy marriage is based on the Judeo-Christian faith. Only God can save the marriage, please give the "marriage" back to him. He will surely make it beautiful.
I do see what George is saying and it can be hard when they’ve already done the deed. However, I can see how this could possibly mislead Christians in new relationships and take this as green light if they feel it’s okay. In this day and age we get married by the laws of land and this establishes the covenant before God. I also agree with Ruslan, if there is no real covenant made the person can easily leave the “marriage in the heart” for another person. It’s great what George is doing and that Ruslan can do a review in love!
This might come off more harsh than I intend. in reference to Georges words on his podcast I feel as though he is doing two things. Not including his future wife in the conversation as much as I anticipated, and thinking a mile wide and and inch deep on the topic.
I was hoping that she would at some point be given an opportunity to share her thoughts and desires (as much as she feels comfortable) which maybe that was reflective of her lack of engagement during this portion of the conversation. It did concern me that he was very concerned with how he was hyper focused on honoring Jesus and his mother (those are obviously great things to focus on) but his lack of emphasis on honoring his wife was surprising. What I'm not saying is that he has no empathy for her in the conversation, I was just taken aback that it seemed his emphasis of honor was on Jesus, and his mother and not Jesus, his mother, and his wife
It is clear that sex or no sex George will love his future wife. If I could ask George a question it would be why lose sleep? Yes Sex is great but why give it such a platform in your mind. Even if its a year of no sex do you think you will regret that decision 10 years later? There is a much bigger consequence if he has sex and figures out later he was wrong rather than just obstaning.
I love watching George grow and mature. It is a scary thing to put yourself out there for all to see. It is truly inspirational.
Ruslan you knocked it out of the park as usual.
Right! The problem is us! God loves us perfectly, but there’s a problem with our love. If we loved perfectly, we wouldn’t sin, but the Bible says if we say we don’t sin, we’re liars, and the truth isn’t in us.that was a truthful answer.
Exactly and perfectly said just mary her and that is that, his consciosness reveals his fault.
Only God truly knows what's in our hearts.
In the earlier times when mankind was created. In the times of Adam & Eve, and their following generations. There was no such thing as papers, ceremonies, & wedding rings etc. A man chose his wife, made a commitment, & made life with her. We as modern men added all these hoops you have to jump through. Make your commitment unto her, under God with sincere prayer and HE will bless you all the days of your lives. Adding a ceremony and a pastor is an added touch to solidify it before the realm of earth & all your witnesses of invitation. Therefore it’s a even bigger celebration & also makes the covenant harder to walk away from since many now witnesses, guests, & family are now involved. Although it is not necessary to have a wedding I would highly encourage one so that you can celebrate & seal the covenant before Mankind & God. Yahweh is your ultimate Judge and He knows the intentions of your heart & motives.
You are spot on, sir.
Sex before marriage isn’t possible.
Marriage means union. To be married means to be united, to be joined together.
Sex is what joins a man and woman together, and this is exactly how Jesus and all the men of His time understood it.
When a man and woman have sex, they become married, joined together, united.
Let your manmade traditions go.