The Day Post Scriptum Died
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- An incredible game in Post Scriptum has now confirmed it is not longer in development. So what went on, what happened? When was the day post scriptum died?
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I had some absolutely amazing moments in Post Scriptum that no other game can ever give me. I wish others could have enjoyed them too. But without a well organised team games can become incredibly one-sided.
Yeah, specially when you get spawn trapped by the enemy commander, logistic and a Cromwell tank
The tank gameplay is sooo good in this game.
Last great ww2 game
No other game? Try he’ll let loose lol that’s where all the post script players went because it’s way better
@@shoutingzombie The sound design, vehicles, and explosion fx are nowhere near as good as Post Scriptum's. Its British faction is a mess, no Early War content (currently), no actual paratrooper gameplay like on the St Mere Eglise and Crete maps, and personally I don't find the gunplay as fun.
RIP, “Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.” Dr Seuss
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@@operater3-1 braindead comment please delete
@@operater3-1 😐
@@bruhshott it is so funny 🤣you have 0 sense of humor
@@operater3-1bro is 9
They made no effort when it came to marketing. I remember there was hype for this game but due to some issues (i forgot what exactly) they lost that momentum and they never recovered it refusing to invest in making this game more visible especially during major updates.
I suggested they offer free access to squad server owners or alpha participants.
They decided not to support their community and the game died 😂
The dev just stupid
Lazy ahh dev
i asumme is OWI just disregarding the game and i can believe that owi did try to kill it so they dont lost their playerbase of squad
I literally never heard about it until after a year of playing HLL/
I've never seen a worse take than this, 'realism' was never the issue with Post Scriptum, it was the fact that the game would spend years without any updates or communication from the devs and from its persistent performance issues that kept the game's max server player count below 80 which left large parts of the map empty.
But most of all, Post Scriptum suffered from market cannibalization from having to compete with another near identical game (Hell Let Loose) that was able to churn out far more content on a regular basis. Same goes for Beyond the Wire and the Verdun games.
If HLL didnt exist, Post Scriptum would be the default WW2 tactical shooter game even with the idiocy from the devs.
Yeah if the devs did a free weekend like hell let loose did every week during its release
This exactly. I bought the game in early access and played it until its death. This was the problem
My thoughts exactly. Realism is, as he said, Post Scriptum’s greatest strength. And that’s all it was. But the game developers did not have enough communication and didn’t push out enough updates in time.
The game became dry for most and it only got worse once there wasn’t enough servers that could stay populated. People who did want to play the game either couldn’t get in or couldn’t find a server worth staying in.
Post Scriptum arguably could’ve done even better than Squad if it had been done right. And although it was going in the right direction, it was too slow and the game died well before it could’ve shined to its full potential.
yea I was looking for an original comment like this. I physically felt ill listening to this "realism bad" drivel from this video. the constant "hell let loose.... hell let loose... uhh hell let loose you know it does the uhh" sounds like joe biden trying to formulate one single sentence from words hes randomly generated. this guy has clearly just chronically been playing hell let loose, has never had any hours in post scriptum before the dev team got sacked
the truth? exactly what you said, plus the complete lack of answers over the sacking of the post scriptum dev team, who were handling the game perfectly before their removal.
*OWI fired its entire post scriptum dev team and executed them by firing squad* .
Ironically after this, they forced their own CEO into retirement. Added emotes and made a deal with the chinese megacorp "tencent"
however OWI did not fire the beyond-the-wire team. despite their actions and development decisions being parallel to 343i's decisions with the halo franchise, abandoning simple concepts like vehicles and emplacements. something crucial to the survival of a squad mod and in a time period where vehicles were essential to the victory of a fighting force.
overall OWI is becoming far less communicative and community-centric and far more mainstream. they are reaching for the stars to become a mainstream AAA title that gets billions of bucks or rubles or pounds or what-have-you. they dont care about the community anymore because their dreams are far higher now. you dont matter to them anymore
The success of HLL and failure of PS has nothing to do with realism. HLL is alot more realsitic than most average FPS shooters and has a pretty steep learning curve aswell. What sets both titles apart is the presentation. You just need to take a look how great HLL maps are build and how PS maps look like. HLL doesn't just churn out more content but actually high quality content wich immerses the player into the game world.
I loved this game more than Squad. The devs spending too much time on the armour overhaul was the nail in the coffin I think. They should have just kept adding content and making gameplay tweaks along the way.
Well said. That was it.
Don't get me wrong but the "Armour overhaul" is what got me into the game.
Adding more content without addressing the major core issues is a sure-fire way of making sure your game becomes trash, look at War Thunder for example; Issues that have plagued the game for over 5 years are still there with no fix in sight. Everyone complains about balance and things being half-broken/not working at all since the release of Ground Forces. The problem with Post Scriptum wasn't the armor overhaul, it was BreizhoO, the lead developer.
I was the Sysop for the player-curated Post Scriptum wiki. The devteam had a meeting to discuss how to handle the wiki and how to update it. Nothing came out of it. I asked for pictures, in-game renders, information to update the wiki, etc., which took them 3 months to send some renders and they were all from Chapter II, very few things from chapter I.
There was a clear lack of communication. For clarification, I am not blaming the devteam, I am blaming BreizhoO for doing absolutely nothing and running away with the profits instead of sitting down with the community, clearing up the air and making an effort to bring the game back. People like Snazzy and the rest of the community managers/QA and moderators are the people who truly made an effort to connect with the community and help in any way possible. What did BreizhoO do? Fire off the devteam on Christmas Eve with no advance notice and run off with the remaining of the profits.
@@Pawniac The armour combat was fine before the overhaul though. The update took way too long and didn't meaningfully change anything about the game.
@@firepower01 The armor system was pretty far from fine before the overhaul. Before the overhaul you could kill tanks by repeatedly shooting their tracks, you were only rewarded for shooting ammoracks. With the introduction of the armor update, shells now do post penetration damage, have correct penetration values and no longer can you kill a tank by spamming AP shells through its cupola. APHE shells actually became meta since you could kill crewmembers by shooting center of mass.
The fact that 1 month passed and OWI about to make this game a banger again
Died because of lazy devs: no 100 player servers. No optimization for years after release. No new uniforms, sub factions, vehicle skin renewal. No real quality of life updates and patches. No new game modes, no new commander assets, modding kit was a disaster. No new maps. We could go on for hours
they did everything you said tho except 100 man servers
@@aceous99 last time i played it was just garbage performance. On Squad with solid 60-90 FPS. But PS just always had that laggy unpolish feeling to it.
And i think the easiest way to kill a shooter, is by having bad performance.
It's true that the game wasn't optimized, but only for big configuration 😅, for medium pc the game work fine
HLL has 100 player servers but no teamwork.
@@FutaCatto2I've experienced a lot of teamwork in HLL
I often play this game and most of the times is still as fun as a year ago. We, the players, are who decide if it is over or not and we should NOT abandon this game
I never got the chance to play this game and was wanting to, are there still any live dedicated servers?
@aidanhighlander7964 Yes there is always at least one 100 player server running and on weekends there is multiple.
100% I'm tired of these traitors and cowards always saying "Muh dead game!!!" yet don't realize the game is still as enjoyable as it was back then.
I don't think this game is dead mainly because of its 'high realism', although it can be a part of it.
-Yes, the gunplay is more realistic than in HLL, but the logistics and gamemodes are simpler. In HLL you have more resources types, more numbers and requirements that you might want to learn to become better. In PS, you leave those things to the small logistics squad.
-In HLL there are a lot more fast guns (semiautomatic rifles and submachine guns), while PS has a lot more people with slow bolt action rifles. (Yes, this does counts as realism related.)
-HLL has upgrading and customization mechanics, that maybe keep people more addicted to the game. PS does not, but it's more equal for everyone from the start. You just play for the playing, not to upgrade.
-In HLL you die all the time and only medics can heal people, but they also die all of the time. In PS anyone can revive people; that's unrealistic but a lot more fun and creates more teamwork.
-PS servers have a top of only 80 players (40v40), while HLL has a top of 100 players (50v50). That's 20 less capacity of people on every server (and 1 less squad per team).
-HLL has servers from every country; PS mainly had European and American servers. There's no place for much, let's say as an example, South American players. (This could be considered a consquence of the problem, not a cause, though.)
-PS has more maps and had more factions, but a lot of the maps are similar, in the same kind of environment.
-Cities (Carentan) are bigger in HLL, though in PS you can enter in every building, contrary to HLL.
-HLL has better graphics (textures), but PS has better sound (and light, i believe).
-HLL has more known/famous maps and scenarios, from movies and other videogames. Omaha Beach (from the most famous war film there is), as well as Utah Beach (which is the only beach in PS)... Stalingrad (Eastern Front); El Alamein (Africa); and practicaly a lot of the maps from Band of Brothers (Sainte-Mère-Église; Sainte-Marie-du-Mont; Carentan; Foy...). While PS touches only some of them and focus only in Europe.
-PS developer team and updates don't exist anymore, and that is just terrible publicity, from a start ("the game is dead" issue). While HLL, even with its bad trailer gets a lot of publicity and gives context to speak about the game. You know PS is not gonna officialy expand anymore. While HLL is very focused on that.
And maybe there's another point i'm not remembering now. But i would say this game is dead mainly because of its stop in development; and its bad publicity, or lack of publicity. And because the competitor has avoided this issues: it has made some more commercial choices (the maps, guns and some mechanics); it keeps expanding (more varied factions and scenarios) and gets more publicity. If you have servers from all over the world, and players that speak every languaje, that's capacity for a lot more players and more publicity.
There is a lot of new content coming out for HLL in December. Check it out ^^
Post scriptum has 100 pop servers, not sure why it used be 80, but it seems it was changed, the only english server that was still running was 50v50
Yeah watching this video I immediately disaggreed. People act like PS was Arma and HLL is Battlefield so that's why it has more players. In reality, most noticable difference is HLL's unlimited stamina and time/objective based game modes. PS inherited Squad's ticket system and have limited stamina mechanic. Other than that they are not much different in regards of gameplay mechanics.
So yeah, PS is not dead because it's "more realistic" but because it's dead, as in they failed to gather more players and hold them. Squad is much more realistic and harder but it's healthy populated. Periscope Games really failed to market their game and couldn't keep up with giving a proper live service to it. They were too slow to add content and fix problems, optimize the game etc. So people got bored and left. Game died because developers treat their game as dead. There is absolutely no reason for thousands of people not starting playing right now, it was playable and have enough content. But with the Periscope CEO purging the studio it removed all confidence among players.
I don't know if OWI can jump in and save the day but unless they do something, it's pretty much dead.
Agree with you, also HLL is available on Console, which adds a lot more players/customers/revenue
@@gabrielc.2177 Yeah, that's also big.
WE ARE SO BACK
You can’t have a successful game if you don’t ever tell anyone it exists. This was the exact genre I was all about yet I never saw a single advertisement for it, I never even saw it mentioned in its prime. I only knew it existed because I saw a RUclips clip by chance and when I tried it myself it was already dead. The most I’ve ever seen was 3 servers and the largest being 25 people.
I bought it at prime time and never got to play it.
I brought it just before it was in its prime, and man it still holds the title of my favourite game, just a shame I can't play it anymore
i actually enjoyed the combat here wayyyyyy more then on hell let loose. it was way more intense and greusome, the vehicle combat was way more intense and better. the sounds were far superior. even when someone got hit and killed it was absolutely brutal. it was the superior game in my opinion. would have come a long way with support. big sad it died.
I played Post Scriptum religiously for a time, then I thought I would try my hand at Hell Let Loose, so I brought it and played 36 minutes then got a refund and went back to Post Scriptum because it just felt like trash to play, the guns felt and sounded horrible and the movement speed was just a bit too slow. It put me off instantly in comparison to a game like Post Scriptum
@@RoofKoreanInTheWild i'd like to play games like squad,if only i had a pc...
Hell let loose is a half-baked game compared to Post Scriptum, but sadly enough the game is dead and we are forced to play Hell Let Loose.
@@wulfheort8021 us console scrubs are forced to play games like hll,i had fun playing it but i want something more realistic (that isn't insurgency,that game is only sweat)
@@one-nu2dh One thing I hate about HLL is the ballistics. I don't know what they did, but the bullet drop in the game is very weird and unrealistic.
Man I have over 800 hours in this game, loved every second of it. Sad to see it go but it just never got the love and support that other games got.
Its coming back!
This game had been a banger since the very start. I always loved the media surrounding World War 2, and this game did it justice in every way.
The sound design was near perfection, the violence everywhere and many aspect where way better than it's big brother Squad, to this day.
I met very nice people while playing, led the best tank fights ever and witnessed an insanely accurate depiction of the war's weaponry.
This game made me feel a lot. I played for long and wished I still could play a lot more. Thank you Periscope Games for the short, but good time you gave me trough this game many will never be able to experience.
It's heartbreaking. PS is much better than HLL, fight me.
Nah. It was hardly even playable. Not an enjoyable gaming experience
Easily most fun I ever had in a milsim game
@@grey8044 did require some tweaking to get right. For a while my gtx 980 & i5 4690k played it fine
@@grey8044and hell let loose runs like utter garbage while still looking like it and it has a retarded playerbase
HLL is so enjoyable and fun. Especially to play with friends. It is very casual, so it is suited for every player, this is why new players are constantly hopping in, despite some recent problems with devs. But at least it seems they are dedicating to fix the existing bugs and problems.
A real bloody shame. A fantastic game I'm glad I played in its prime.
ITS BACK BABY!!!! OWI just acquired the game and is committed to bringing it back to life! Moidawg made a video about it!
Wake up, we are back.
that really makes me sad cos i was in love with this game
sorry for my bad english
I got sick of constantly having to stop to chug from my canteen.
@atomic_wait i actually thought that was a nice way to replenish your stamina
@@konnigwagner8510 Here is some grammar nazi-ing:
that really makes me sad cause I was in love with this game
PS and and HLL also have very different communities. HLL you can generally do some light meme RP and still be an effective force on the battlefield. For the most part, the HLL community encourages it...unless you're Recon not doing your job, but that's another topic. With PS on the other hand, I remember being berated for not providing pinpoint accurate callouts as if I was a real soldier and being kicked from squads because I was "playing a useless class".
imagine post scriptum with the Squad ICO... that would so dang immersive and make squad tactics actually required.
the ICO is awful.
ICO is dogshit, please never share your opinion again
I really like the ICO.
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@@igasuguseidasju1699 I don't understand how reducing the skill-cap of shooting mechanics in squad makes people who don't like that referred to as "noob", it should be the opposite, no?
Plot twist! We're back baby!
WE ARE BACK BOYZZZZ
Post Scriptum is back!!!!
I started playing post scriptum in 2020 during lockdown, just before the release of the normandy update. I quickly joined a team and during the next 2 years i played post scriptum almost everyday. I remember it as one of the best gaming experience i've ever had. I made friends, I played matches against other teams and I became very good with sniper rifles. I remember my squad leader saying during a match I could kill an entire squad at close range with my sniper rifle. The 16-17 yo me felt so proud. And then the game slowly died, i stopped playing it because of the lack of players. I often remembe the fun i had during hundreds of hours. I even remember playing entire games only using the bayonnette just for fun. PS surely was an era of my life i will never forget. It's now 2023 and i haven't played post scriptum for more than a year, and will probably never play it again.
yo !
PS and SQUAD still the ultimate games, generally players who like this kind of game, play it "everyday" yes !
You can launch Post Scriptum again buddy... he still alive, not entire dead. but yes it's different since 2020
One thing that also helped hell let loose was the fact that it had a console release which gave it a significantly expanded customer base.
The issue was the people in charge half-ass the game. Very slow updates, no marketing(Ads). Of course, this game failed. And the sad part is this game could have been the top #1 ww2 game on the market. If only they took the game as seriously as they did like Squad
The devs worked hard, armor update is 9/10
It was not realism that killed the game, it was simply the fact that one game had more development compared to the other. ( P.S vs HLL)
Here is the prove
If you looked at the Steam charts for P.S. you see that in March 2020 the game had 7000 people this is because of the D-Day update. Which was trash because of very horrendous optimization issues (Not an overstatement) and because of other issues. So the majority of people were refunding the game.
It is not because P.S is realism is too much, it is because P.S has change not so much since it release date, and devs did not fix major issues
But the game is still fun to play for some
this video didnt age so well
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Brilliantly passionate piece about a dying game, only for it to be revived a month later, you must be pretty happy with the news ^^
PS was always one of those games I'd heard about but would always forget about when it came to buying a game, then this morning I saw Moidawg's videos about the acquisition. I bought and installed straight away, really looking forward to getting my teeth sunk into this :D
*subbed btw :D*
It saddens me because it's honestly the best pvp first person online shooter i've played in the past 10+ years. Nothing comes close to it.
what if i told you OWI acquired the licenses and now the game has RESUMED DEVELOPMENT?
I bought My first PC in 2020. then bought Tarkov, Squad, Arma 3, and Post Scriptum. Post Scriptum sound design is flawless. Im not sure how they did it but if takrov had that sound design, id be playing tarkov rn.
Post Scriptum should've been made a Squad DLC
I miss Post Scriptum so much it hurts. HLL will never come close to this legendary game.
We're back baby
I played PS quite a lot early on and it was awesome. After the player count dwindled I tried playing in european servers as I can understand german well and communicate myself decently. Still, I've been kicked from every squad I've been in after a few minutes when they noticed I wasn't a native speaker. No niche game can survive like this.
On EU server you must communicate on english. To me it seems that you joined german server..
@@combatzone8549 You're right. I tried playing in the germans server but wasn't able to. In the end I just stopped playing.
Still going to SL on that game until the end, hope it will be long
Guess again baby!!!
My memories of this game are amazing. I made real life friends through this game that i still see today. The community was amazing! I will forever be gratefull to the Devs for making such a great game that created those memories. Sad it has died and the community with it...
the biggest regret i have is buying post scriptum and realizing the houses had no decoration and then i left.
Yes, yes. It felt weird when houses and streets are completely empty.
Post Scriptum back on track lets gooo!!!!🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Tbh that's what I hate about modern gaming. Everyone says they want something in depth and realistic, yet when it's provided nobody plays it.
It's why we end up with so many titles that are just cookie cutter, on rails, waypoint everywhere unrewarding and unsatisfying games. I hate having to rely on mods on like 10-20 year old games like Stalker GAMMA modpack or Medieval 2 Total War mods to have a rich in depth experience in gaming, but there we go. All that dev time, studios and big budgets wasted on essentially boring games just hurts my soul.
I think there's more to it than just that "realism" thing. Many people wanted even more realism, to the point where Post Scriptum Realism Mod was created and even semi league was established.
But from my point of view, there were other problems with the game.
1. Lack of communication from devs. Good to see that devs added something or even made some tests, but before that they were silent for a long time with no info whatsoever, while people asked for a roadmap or anything to know if they get mod support or not. We waited long long time to
2. Disorganized work schedule. When French campaign chapter was released, it lacked one map and in many places it was broken, later the same was with Utah in next chapter. Before we got it, we had another chapter, some info on new chapter and then chapter 2 was finished. When working on sdk, they've been rescheduling launch many times, reason being the engine, as they've decided to upgrade the engine, more on that later, while still working something on tank update AFAIK. Supposed paid chapters after chapter three were another problem for players, as that meant that they want more for doing next to nothing from playerbases' perspective.
3. Engine. Game was for a long time unstable and bogged. Wouldn't bat an eye on raytracing or dlss, but I remember that looking at some directions completely cut down your FPS, some people were having problems with objects not rendering, which was a bit of cheating in matches. People wrote and used scripts to remove foliage from game, for "performance purposes", but it mainly made them able to see enemies very far, because everything else was not rendering. When I played clan matches, many times we were interrupted by server breaking up due to ps issues. When we had Carentan map, many players were unable to play as the game was hogging the resources. Supposed update instead of helping, broke more in terms of stability.
4. Lack of content. When you play Halo, you don't see a problem with playing same maps over and over as matches are fast, quick and change a bit with drops and things like that. In Post Scriptum, non-modded servers use maybe three to four maps, mostly with the same sides. With matches lasting over an hour, it's tiresome to play another hour doing the same thing and only being able to play as rifleman.
5. This is connecting to the realism side of problem. In many games, you can play as an army of field medics and no problem it is as it would've been possible due to some accident. But here, if you hit a match, you have to take what role is available. If you want smg but not commanding, sorry, only commander can have one. You don''t want to have smg? Sorry, demoted to rifleman you are. Want to be a medic, but slots are taken? Whoops, can only spare few bandages and syringes if game allows. So if you wanted to try out smg roles or something, you had to either make a new team (many times disallowed on servers to solo the team) or just go to training. Want to make a team of anti-tank soldiers? Sorry, unavailable, because in U.S. field manual number 2137 from 1941 you can read that "game developers will not make teams that way", which connects to the lack of content, as you are forced to use that one gun provided and never use another thing. At least you could've used a pistol as a rifleman, but to "balance things", that and for a while even knives were taken out.
6. Community. Most of the games on free weekends (oh, didn't mention, there were not too many free weekends or other ways of advertising the game) give new players a chance to be equal by balancing everything or swapping something to even the chances, for example giving access to better weapons or giving xp boost to get upgrades faster. Because PS is a different type of game, where you have to know the map in and out and everything about loadouts of every other army, you either try alone at the training field and then go and get yelled for not knowing how to do stuff or hop on the server (one of that 80/80 servers available) to get yelled or even kicked for not knowing what to do. For "more experienced players", free weekends meant free shooting range or trolling moments, because they could've just use their hours of knowledge to obliterate newbies. Of course, sweatness during these matches can only match the intensity of shower in the military base after morning exercise. Many times you can crack a joke or something, but you also can get banned for just saying hi on french or german server or for any other thing that doesn't break anything, like being kicked from team and being spotted as unteamed or being in a closed team you didn't close.
7. Lack of advertisement. If you want to have a playerbase, you have to promote your game. Hell Let Loose can reveal something, make a simple info drop, people would at least bat an eye. When it comes to PS, you could mostly get once per year free weekend for new addon, and apart from that, no other broad info or advertisement. I have only heard more about the game when I got it on my birthday from brother, only because he heard about it while playing Hell Let Loose and some people told him there's a better game. Apart from that moments and community notes on discord, I have never heard of the game and nearly forgot it existed.
Great vid!!! love this game for boots on the ground realism and so very happy i was able to put in 2k hours of play time and hopefully more to come
I had a moment 2 years ago which I will never forget.
I was playing on the german side of Arnheim against the Brits. I decided to do Squadleader and so I rally up my men, explained what each role should do and so we picked up a Sd.Kfz 251 and stormed the bridge. One Squad against their whole team. The squad used the Sd.Kfz as cover while we threw smoke and grenades always screaming. "I don't fucking care which role you got, the machine gun will not stop firing." Talking about the MG42 on top of that Sd.Kfz.
I miss Post Scriptum.
Driving a Halbkettenfahrzeug on the bridge leads to an instant kill for your whole squad.
I guess the brits dont have any open squads at this point...
one big thing about Post Scriptum vs Hell Let Loose. HLL is available on console and has cross-play. It’s realistic WW2 FPS that’s available to all. It’s always going to have a healthy player base because of this
I had so many awesome moments (and now memories) in PS. Such a shame what happened to the game :(
Time to redo this vid mate. PS is back in action baby!!!
As someone who is into realistic shooters since Operation Flashpoint the thing that irked me with this game is the fact vehicle combat is still a "whack me multiple times until my HP drops to zero" when one or two penetrating shots should end a fight every single time...War thunders realistic mode for tank combat is more realistic despite a single player doing everything in tank.
I owe a lot to Post. It started my gaming group awhile back
I am not a sim player but I wanted to give P.S. and H.L.L. a try, in P.S. i had no idea what to do and no-body wanted to tell me. In H.L.L. there's indications of what's happening and people actually talk.
You gotta cover the Darkest Hour 44-45 mod for red orchestra 1 still gets updates and has full servers
I hear that Men of War Assault Squad II music in the background
The problem with Post Scriptum was map design. The first 3 games i had i feel like i ran into like 6 people. These games also rely on someone taking charge and coordinating things, and nobody wants to be commander or play an objective, everyone wants to sit in a bush and plink.
Well how the turn tables. This shows up the day owi buys ps
Been playing PS since the open Beta. Have logged nearly 3k hours. I am a platoon leader in a realism clan and regularly attend modded realism events. The sun has set on PS and the world has lost something special
"it didnt just die, it was murdered."
There are still good people playing this game and keeping it alive with mods, events and other stuff. I get the fact, that the developers abandoned us, but we carry on.
Devs leaving this incredible game to bleed out is a shame. However, PSRM and events are still active on a weekly basis. It's a niche product, but players who want to play it can do so and will have a place for still quite some time. There are lots of dedicated folks, mainly in EU and NA, who are more than happy to help with the steep learning curve.
well guys, still a few of us playing, with mods and new maps as well if you want to come
Don't think I didn't notice that Men of War soundtrack in the background :)
small detail but nice Men of War Assault Squad music :)
i just dont get how they let this game die, il go ahead and say it, this was my fav shooter iv ever played.
i find baffling this was basically what PR squad players always were wanting squad to be , and it ended up dying by the hands of OWI , what a top 10 betrayals
I enjoyed playing organised events with my clan in Post Scruptum and playing on servers with full squads of people from our clan. But playing with random people was awful. Almost nobody used mics, SLs wouldn’t communicate or lead, often the CO wouldn’t lead or use the firepower at their disposal at all and just drive around in the jeep. Being let of a tank crew was awful because you’d just have 2 other people who didn’t know what they were doing or communicate with each other about what the plan was. It was a good game, but I think it had to be played with people you knew
5:20 - 6:40 Never thought I’d hear Men of War music in a video not about MoW
Something you seemed to miss here: Post Scriptum, Beyond the Wire, and Squad are all made by different developers - using the core Squad engine. OWI made Squad, but they also sold the use of the engine to Periscope (Post Scriptum) and Redstone (Beyond the Wire) - while also acting as the publisher to those games as well.
I had some great memories in PS, the infantry and vehicle mechanics felt great, but the mechanics behind the game modes and spawning weren't very fun. I actually preferred PS to Squad for small scale firefights. I'll miss those moments
God this just makes me so sad. Looking back PS was probably my favorite out of all the military themed games I played. I remember the France update that came out. Everyone was just having fun playing the awesome new maps. Now you can’t even play a full game on them because there is only one server.
Last year PS halloween zombie event was so much fun, everybody just having fun, almost everyone had a mic so it was really awesome.
Vade, just don't stop playing these
I had some great times stomping in the hedgerows, Sad to see it slip away.
the fatigue system was dumb, i found myself in some games drinking my water more than shooting my gun. This game does have amazing gun mechanics, you put those gun mechanics in Hell Let Loose and you got one helluva WW2 game
I put 1400 hours into this game and loved every second of it, sitting on a roof with an mg34 just mowing down anything that moved will forever be some of my favourite gaming moments, RIP PS.
I would buy it if they could bring it to Squad's level of polish, but it always felt half-baked to me and needed more time in the oven.
Like red orchestra ,post scriptum was a niche game which has come to the end of its shelf life. I and a lot of friends had many hours of fun. Their are many reasons why but the main one I remember was every big update was an unoptimized,untested mess.
Unlike post scriptum, you can load up RO2 and play entire, full matches, rn.
I think the problem that every high-realism World-War-era large battle shooter suffers from is that it's a niche field that's doomed to obscurity after its initial five minutes of fame.
Verdun, Tannenberg, Isonzo, Beyond the Wire, Post Scriptum, Day of Infamy: All of these are brilliant, realistic, gritty first person games that at one point or another saw a time when they had considerable numbers of people playing. But if you hopped onto them now, the server lists will only show 2 or 3 active server's worth of people online. The diehard fans of these games continue to play it long after its glory days, but not enough people are interested in a WW1 or WW2 hardcore realism FPS.
In other words, those who like playing games like Post Scriptum or Isonzo or DoI, have a taste for the exceptionally rare.
to much realism kills games...
games are meant to be fun after all and i dont want to feel like punched in the dick for playing a game and enjoying a couple of rounds with the bois.
every gamer needs some moments of success to release dopamine. thats what keeps customers! works with gambling. :D
now in HLL you get points, can level up and unlock things. thats motivation to keep going (works in BF since years, even worked in RO2 and RS2) and show others how "badass" and how much of a "pro" you are.
you can build your own skins and play characters the way you want them to look.
in PS there is only a victory or a lose and thats it. you cant even see if you killed someone or not. its only about capping points or draining tickets.
so whats the point to jump in regularly? for the nice looks of the game and fancy effects?
@@Abensbergthen explain how squad is still incredibly popular and successful?
@@Godlyspameater maybe because there isnt much competition in a modern setting. Only BF or arma3 would be somewhat similar in terms of large maps and huge Battles.
Btw. BF2042, and we know how much of an epic failure this game is, had about 34k players in the last 24 hours.
Squad had about 15k. Not even half.
So a good military simulation still draws less players than one of the worst BF. While CoD, as an arcade game, had about 160k Players in the Last 24h.
Guess arcade is more popular. :D
I personally quit squad after the overhaul, because iam getting tired of this bullshit.
Pretty much the only "A Bridge To Far" simulator had some great times in it.
Time to start playing my friends, bring it back to have at least 2-3 full servers
I think it's bigger failure is that although a niche of people seem to have known about it. This is the first time I have heard of it or had it explained. They needed to get people on side and advertised.
As a PS player, when I bought HLL I almost died of boredom, deleted it after 10hours. Worst 30 bucks spent ever on a game.
I feel like there was a WW2 shooter boom, with Post Scriptum at the forefront, then when that boom started to wane off, other games like HHL zapped the PS player base.
Glad I got the chance to play on full servers from 2020-2022.
My microphone died so I couldn't communicate with my team which made it difficult. I put in more than 400 hours into the game and I still think about it sometimes. Love this game, but I took a break because I had other things going on. It's a great game and really shouldn't die.
squad died aswell, only hope now is hell let loose
I remember the first time I played this game. I joined in then some kid came up to me and called me the Gamer the word. So it is very historically accurate in my opinion.
Im happy I can say I was around playing post script I’m for the majority of its prime, “before Hell Let Loose Blew up” and to be fair, I prefer the realism and immersive aspect way more than the fast paced arcade feel. So sad to see an amazing title go :(
Great video I agree with everything said but also wanna mention that the direction the devs were going was a mess with the last "real" (not the snow maps added in) update being the armored update which shouldn't have been a priority and basically killed its funding for the game as it drew in almost no one, and besides that nobody really plays armored as you cant have more than 3 tanks max on a faction unless you want to have a couple of one man tanks or some how to get into an armored game mode server with some other players which is VERY rare.
The accessibility problem is really what killed the game's hype as well a horrible server admins and rules forcing the player base to only play how "they" want you to play makes experiencing the other parts of the game completely tedious or out right impossible unless you tick every box and or is willing to tolerate the crap. Even the modding scene gets ignored by its own player base and community servers and the only "real" way to play is apparently to join clans making accessibility EVEN harder. Imo not worth it, as much as i dislike HLL and want to like PS
Love the background music from Men of War
i played post scriptum very early on.. and i loved it! i remember being sad when hell let loose became really popular and PS died off
probably didn't help that the 'lead' dev/company owner (cant quite remember which) of the game stole all the money it had earned and pissed off somewhere with it, the rest of the team were passionate and wanted to give the community what they wanted, but in the end they were laid off over Christmas with no warning, and that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
I think OWI should purchase the rights back and make it a DLC for Squad, playable from the same server browser.
Imagine if they just released the codebase as opensource so that the community could keep working on it. Copyright sucks
I think also I n beyond the wires case was it was released too early with not enough content
Post Scriptum was PC only, Hell Let Loose was available on both PC and consoles
It seems like games deriving from Squad seem to die off. Both Post Scriptum and Beyond The Wire died out.
I got on there yesterday, there was two full lobbies. It was as chaotic as I last remember. I love this game. I stopped playing Call of Duty after WaW because the gameplay became lame and too focused on its reward system for those in constant need of a dopamine fix. Post Scriptum is the most immersive shooter game I've ever played and I hate to see it close down completely. I remember one of my first play throughs, I was the radio man and my SL was calling for me to meet him but I was so zoned in to the game I had tuned him out. He ended up yelling at me to get my attention ROFL. I Love this game.
this was my favourite game, it is where i met my best mates and had some of our most intense gaming experiences, to capture this i managed to make 2 videos to remember some but certainly not all of our finest moments, even in my review there are are 2 anecdotes of some of my fondest memories, every day I remember this game is dead it hurts and i long for something, anything that can capture what this game provided me with.
It's back baby, OWI took developpement back
Hell let loose without a mic is fine as long as you're not an officer or commander
Sad to see a brilliant WW2 game that actually justifies the authenticity, war ambience, and teamplay, it's the almost perfect WW2 game to be honest. Unfortunately the marketing for the game was weak. And budget/staff for the game was tight that it can't surpass its competition "Hell Let Loose". HLL had the budget, marketing power, and the graphics and the huge block of Chinese consumers.
Post Scriptum didn't stand the chance, no matter how justified they make their WW2 game. It's just sad.
I feel like it started to die out after the much antecipated Armor update back in 2021, I feel like they made all vehicles way much OP because AT mines now can't even destroy a jeep, alongside making logi, AT kits and gammon bombs way much more frustrating since they feel totally useless. I remember that before that update I could even find some South American servers almost full of players and there was always about five well populated servers no matter the time of day, nowadays we only got 1 or 2 servers at max only between 1pm to 4pm east US time.
Now true, PS was never had a community as big as Squad (and I thank God for that), but it was enough to make the game playable no matter when you wold feel like playing it.