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Thanks for torture testing the Patton and giving us the heads up on the possible loose bolt! I'm bewildered about how they can't make sure that such an important bolt is tightened to the right torque specs... Anyway I'm still looking forward to my Patton.
Great video! Impressive off-road test and testers. Really nice that you went deep into the repair. Great footage, edits, to the point review. Thanks........
That was a 360 cam i was holding. Don't drop the camera. 😅 My brain had a fart and i should've laid it down sideways. Careful with the lateral tilt cutoff. 70* is prone to becoming a spin top of doom.
Just placed a pre-order in for the Patton, an upgrade from my v11 I started with. Initially pre-ordered the S22Pro then changed to the Patton but still wondering, & contemplating, just going head & spend the extra $900+ for either the Sherman S or Ex30. Really like the Master Pro V2 & V13 but at 5'7" I worry they may be too tall & heavy to deal with in stop & go city/ suburban type riding, long range with little stop & go to be jumping on & off every other block they probably wouldn't be no problem. Anyhow watching this got me back to thinking I should just stick with the Patton for now & if I find myself riding longer range I guess I can sale both the Patton & V11 & upgrade to one of the bigger ones later on.
Same. Got a V11 and V8F in the barn. Thinking of either Patton or Commander Mini for a bit more power. Not interested in the super heavy weight wheels as a smaller dude.
Oh hey for anyone curious top speed for 130lbs is 69kmh at full battery and 61kmh at half battery. Edit: to clarify this is high speed mode with 80% safety margin.
You guys got super lucky with that broken bolts height/proximity to hole opening. Just spent several hours extracting a broken bolt from my batch 3 Sherman-S. Bolt broke about halfway into opening so only way was to drill pilot hole and do an extraction. Like your Patton, all my motor bolts (except broken one) were just as loose as yours in the video. 200 miles, 90/10 street/trails with no jumping or hard riding. The lock nuts also look super flat. Not sure factory ones are doing much to keep the bolts tight.
I am hoping the street test comes soon. I am deciding between this, or the Begode Extreme. If the Patton can reach 80kmh + on the street, I will choose this, no matter possible Extreme performance. Thanks
This is a great vid, and I'm glad to hear you're still fans of the patton even after the axle bolt broke. Hsiang also broke an axle bolt it looks like, and I've heard of one other. I just got my patton and am planning to tear it down to replace the suspension springs, figure I should replace the axle bolts while the wheel is on the operating table. Do you happen to know the dimension for the axle bolts?
I would go with the heaviest option! It can still be pretty damp if you are 150. Just need to set the rebound appropriately. Better peace of mind when doing things like jumping. Your weight increases exponentially when coming down from height!
You can more easily repair/replace/upgrade the S22 linkage although the Patton has a decent suspension (66lbs) Street jumping/skatepark I'd suggest Patton. It throws you upwards in jumps, feels smoother and faster response. Wonderful for potholes and bonks. Off-road/big air I'd suggest S22. Takes a beating better, bottoming out isn't horrible and you can fix a busted suspension more readily.
@@deejeh9494 Awesome! Thanks for the info! I think I'm leaning towards Patton. Again appreciate the content, without it we'd have no idea what we were buying!
Red Loctite (that you said, by error) would be too weak, glad to see it was actually blue on bottle 😊 which is about as strong as id go. Green would be overkill (and make disassembly h3ll)
This has been on my mind for a while. In my opinion this toe delete grizzla was a decent quick fix but the bumpers get in the way slightly. I would either fill in the gap between the bumper and battery box or remove the stock toe pad/bumper/handles. The bumpers are hard plastic regardless, not worth keeping imo and the handles need work. Front handle needs to be higher by half an inch to properly clear the charge port. Doing either of these will give a
You do not once mention how easy it is to bottom out the shock on the 66lbs version (their stiffest) on max stuff setting. Every other review I've seen it shown and talked about. This is HUGE. Literally its biggest deal. Comon!
Nice video and good to see u guys having fun on the Patton! Don’t u bottom out quickly on it? With +90kg it’s easy to do or I need to disassemble my whole suspension to find out… I had a leak after 150km! Don’t get me wrong it’s a fantastic wheel!
I maxed out the suspension rebound. It makes a very satisfying "hiss" noise this way, doesn't really happen on lowered rebound. Also note that the pogo/launching effect doesn't happen as aggressively on lowered rebound.
curious how stable this wheel is at 35+? I know it's a 16", but lots of reviews state it as stable bc of the heavier weight. Is it more stable than a RS19hs at 35mph? thx
As a novice EUC rider, I'm seeking recommendations for pads that would be most suitable for a non-suspension V12 HS model. My primary goal is to find pads that allow long distance riding and comfortable sitting without obstructing my legs, and I'm not concerned about their jumping capabilities. What types of pads would you suggest for this particular riding experience?
@rideonetoronto forsure i love jumping 🤘🏼 Mainly referring to the 1 guys advice. On small jumps like that, no big deal. But take that mindset into the real jumps, and it will get you hurt. Separating from your wheel 15 feet in the air is no fun!
@@growforest20yeah these were just smaller jumps that you can have fun and not worry too much about. He was referring to messing around with the wheel.
You'll never be able to make an EUC perform as well as a Mountain Bike or Motocross motorcycle in the environment you've put these eWheel's thru here. EUC's rely on angular momentum and inertia sensors to operate properly, once you've taken ground contact away from the eWheel, ur rarely going to have a wheel speed on landing that matches the takeoff speed, putting stresses on the drive train & suspension systems these EUC's weren't designed for. The more height and distance you make the jump, the greater likelyhood of mismatched wheel speed on landing and increased stresses on the drive & suspension. At best, it's like trying to use a Wave Runner like a Fishing boat, you can do it but it's just never gonna perform as well. That's my take on the practicality of trying to make a EUC into a Motocross bike. So now that ur ready for questions . . . could you have done that loose mount repair on the Patton while on the trail & what tools would you need ? Nice Shop !
@@BRyeEUC Maybe I'm just jealous ! 🤭 That said, Rock On ! Got uno mas question for you, if ur willing. How do you deal w/ flats, if you even get them and are these EUC Tires Tubeless or supplied w/ a tube ? (sorry, that's two questions). Happy Trails !
@@BRyeEUC Kewl ! Thx, not too many YT review channels talk about that. After seeing a few teardowns, such as in this vid, I just had to ask. It just doesn't look easy getting to a wheel w/ an internal motor that's been sealed w/ gaskets, O-rings & silicone. I've been layin down the miles the last 3 yrs on a Fat Tire E-bike which has allowed me to Park the Car. The Gas, Tires, Oil & Insurance I wasn't paying for anymore basically financed the E-bike. Last year, here in the Portland/Vancouver area, about a Dozen of those eWheels passed me on the bike trail, and I couldn't catch Any of them to ask questions. So here I am watching every YT vid I can find on the subject because I want one ! I've set a budget of $3,500 bucks for this eWheel but that needs to include a full face Helmet, padding and maybe an essential accessory or two (seat, power pads, goldfish bowl bracket ; ), which has me drawn the $3,200 InMotion Adventure V14. It ticks most the boxes on my EUC wish list for now and Eric @ eWheels was telling me it's more of a "modular" design w/ ease of maintenance in mind. Maybe gaining access for Tire repairs on the V14 won't require a well stocked Snap On Truck to accomplish. I've been following Marty Backe's ElectricUnicycles channel on the V14. It looks like InMotion is throwing their support at the Hall Sensor issue going on w/ his V14 right now. I'm sure since the world is watching, they'll give their due diligence and solve that issue for good. Anyways, I guess the second batch of V14's w/ the Samsung S50 batt's are about a week behind schedule so they will likely be distributed in January. Thx Again for the input on this, Happy Trails & Merry Thanksgiving !
Quite comfortable to sit right on top just stock but i added some foam to add a bit of cushion. Although i imagine it'll be easy to use the same style as og Sherman seats, mount the seat right onto the handlebars
@@deejeh9494 Honestly, a seat design with shocks (because back problems suck) should have been considered as an option in the manufacturing of the final product.
@@deadreckoning425 someone has to design it and at this point i highly doubt euc mfg will do a good job. They can't get pads or bumpers right so keep an eye on aftermarket seats or better yet be the hero you're looking for. Take a bike seat with those built-in springs and pipe clamp it to your wheel
@@deadreckoning425 absolutely agree but people will continue to buy them at whatever cost. This is true across all the mfg. S19 is only a couple hundred less than s22. Master is barely more expensive than T4
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Nice tone to the whole video. No extra bling-bling, just the real thing. Good job!
As for the next Veteran, Persing comes to mind.
Glad you like the format !!! 😄😄
Thanks for torture testing the Patton and giving us the heads up on the possible loose bolt! I'm bewildered about how they can't make sure that such an important bolt is tightened to the right torque specs... Anyway I'm still looking forward to my Patton.
Love that you show how you’d fix a broken bolt, made it look effortless 👌
Glad you appreciated that part… Seb is a professional mechanic! I wouldn’t let anyone else in Toronto touch my wheel 😅 thanks for watching!!
Great video and content. "jib around" - new term - I like it 😁 And don't diss on the Master - you might need it to carry you out of the woods 😊
Thanks for watching Marty!!!!! You are the best 😁 great compliment coming from you!
We're big fans of the Master here. As well as my wheel of choice for comparing the Patton. Those two have more in common than T4 vs Patton.
This is the first new wheel in 3 yrs of PEV riding that has sparked my interest enough to consider buying.
Did you buy one?
@@theonlymac Yes I did. Took delivery Friday. Between Friday and today I got in 28mi per the odometer on the wheel.
Respect! I'm so down to buy one, I still don't have one. Begode A2 or straight to daddy Patton?
@@theonlymac I don't know anything about the Begode A2, but the build quality of this Patton is 1st class.
Great video! Impressive off-road test and testers. Really nice that you went deep into the repair. Great footage, edits, to the point review. Thanks........
Got my patton preordered and can't wait.
You wont be dissapointed!! Thanks for watching 🤗
@@miniwheelmedia Totally thanks for showing what it can do! Just subbed 🤙
@@EclecticWizard6 much appreciated.!! I think you’ll like the on-road video coming soon.
Best quality (and informative) videos are on your channel. Thank you!!!!
At 13mins in when the Patton started shaking the camera man was shaking too lmao 😂. Great video guys! Can’t wait for the next one!
LOL!! He was definitely a bit shaken as well... trying to get it to stop!! Thanks for watching 😄
That was a 360 cam i was holding. Don't drop the camera. 😅
My brain had a fart and i should've laid it down sideways. Careful with the lateral tilt cutoff. 70* is prone to becoming a spin top of doom.
@@deejeh9494 Youre right about the tilt... burned a hole through my shoelaces XD careful when you lay it down!
Great video 👏👏😍.
I love my V12HT but for sure this is my first suspension wheel
thank you so much for uploading a nice video
Just placed a pre-order in for the Patton, an upgrade from my v11 I started with. Initially pre-ordered the S22Pro then changed to the Patton but still wondering, & contemplating, just going head & spend the extra $900+ for either the Sherman S or Ex30. Really like the Master Pro V2 & V13 but at 5'7" I worry they may be too tall & heavy to deal with in stop & go city/ suburban type riding, long range with little stop & go to be jumping on & off every other block they probably wouldn't be no problem.
Anyhow watching this got me back to thinking I should just stick with the Patton for now & if I find myself riding longer range I guess I can sale both the Patton & V11 & upgrade to one of the bigger ones later on.
Same. Got a V11 and V8F in the barn. Thinking of either Patton or Commander Mini for a bit more power. Not interested in the super heavy weight wheels as a smaller dude.
Nice Video, very good testing, hope Leaperkim can sort it out in future revisions.
Good to see Toronto Riders in unison.🥰
Thanks for watching 😁 glad you enjoyed!
Great video and insights keep em coming!
Oh hey for anyone curious top speed for 130lbs is 69kmh at full battery and 61kmh at half battery.
Edit: to clarify this is high speed mode with 80% safety margin.
Regular mode? HS mode should get higher speed than that.
@@michaeldavidson3349 we put it in high speed mode the minute we got it 😅
Great video!!⚡️⚡️
You guys got super lucky with that broken bolts height/proximity to hole opening. Just spent several hours extracting a broken bolt from my batch 3 Sherman-S. Bolt broke about halfway into opening so only way was to drill pilot hole and do an extraction. Like your Patton, all my motor bolts (except broken one) were just as loose as yours in the video. 200 miles, 90/10 street/trails with no jumping or hard riding. The lock nuts also look super flat. Not sure factory ones are doing much to keep the bolts tight.
Phenomenal video!!🔥🔥
So glad you enjoyed!! 😃
I am hoping the street test comes soon. I am deciding between this, or the Begode Extreme. If the Patton can reach 80kmh + on the street, I will choose this, no matter possible Extreme performance. Thanks
Coming soon!! Thanks for tuning in ;)
You guys make it look easy haha great video😊
Very nice material guys, you got my subs!
We appreciate that more than you know!!!! Cheers 😁
Omg! 13:34 touched my heart 😢 13:34
😂 it’ll be okay….
Love the content bud!
Much love thanks for watching!!
thats aluminum battery casing, not magnesium. magnesium wouldve been 3-4kg lighter
This is a great vid, and I'm glad to hear you're still fans of the patton even after the axle bolt broke. Hsiang also broke an axle bolt it looks like, and I've heard of one other.
I just got my patton and am planning to tear it down to replace the suspension springs, figure I should replace the axle bolts while the wheel is on the operating table.
Do you happen to know the dimension for the axle bolts?
Which pads did you use for the patton ? Grizzlas?
Amazing
Awesome realistic review and on the fly fix. New subscriber here ❤
We appreciate you so much 😁😁
Im 150lbs. Should i go for the 66lb suspension?
I heard even 120 riders were bottoming out the 62lb version. Really want this wheel!
I would go with the heaviest option! It can still be pretty damp if you are 150. Just need to set the rebound appropriately. Better peace of mind when doing things like jumping. Your weight increases exponentially when coming down from height!
I'm 150lbs , and i buy with 66lbs ...
Best jumping wheel... S22 or Patton?
You can more easily repair/replace/upgrade the S22 linkage although the Patton has a decent suspension (66lbs)
Street jumping/skatepark I'd suggest Patton. It throws you upwards in jumps, feels smoother and faster response. Wonderful for potholes and bonks.
Off-road/big air I'd suggest S22. Takes a beating better, bottoming out isn't horrible and you can fix a busted suspension more readily.
@@deejeh9494 Awesome! Thanks for the info! I think I'm leaning towards Patton. Again appreciate the content, without it we'd have no idea what we were buying!
Red Loctite (that you said, by error) would be too weak, glad to see it was actually blue on bottle 😊 which is about as strong as id go. Green would be overkill (and make disassembly h3ll)
Good catch 🤙
What power/ torque pads you used on Patton?
These are grizzla pads, with the bottom portion of the front pad removed! they work pretty well like this! Thanks for watching!!! 😃
This has been on my mind for a while. In my opinion this toe delete grizzla was a decent quick fix but the bumpers get in the way slightly. I would either fill in the gap between the bumper and battery box or remove the stock toe pad/bumper/handles. The bumpers are hard plastic regardless, not worth keeping imo and the handles need work. Front handle needs to be higher by half an inch to properly clear the charge port.
Doing either of these will give a
You do not once mention how easy it is to bottom out the shock on the 66lbs version (their stiffest) on max stuff setting. Every other review I've seen it shown and talked about. This is HUGE. Literally its biggest deal. Comon!
Half way the Patton decided it wanted to be a Harley with all that Brrrr 😂 ... great video all. 🔥💪🏽
Hahahaha!! The bikers thought we brought a gas unicycle 🤣Thanks for watching!!!
13:01 After THAT, these should be re-named - The Sybian. 🤘🤣
Hahahah😂😂😂
That's a hell of workout on your legs
It can be for sure!! Thanks for watching 😁
Nice video and good to see u guys having fun on the Patton! Don’t u bottom out quickly on it?
With +90kg it’s easy to do or I need to disassemble my whole suspension to find out… I had a leak after 150km! Don’t get me wrong it’s a fantastic wheel!
I maxed out the suspension rebound. It makes a very satisfying "hiss" noise this way, doesn't really happen on lowered rebound. Also note that the pogo/launching effect doesn't happen as aggressively on lowered rebound.
Awesome video
You guys rock
You rock more!! (awesome last name btw.. very fitting 😄)
Hello, pls where can i buy belt lanyard? Or what is its right name😅
curious how stable this wheel is at 35+? I know it's a 16", but lots of reviews state it as stable bc of the heavier weight. Is it more stable than a RS19hs at 35mph? thx
Watch out for the on - road portion of the review coming soon! We will definitely answer that question.
As a novice EUC rider, I'm seeking recommendations for pads that would be most suitable for a non-suspension V12 HS model. My primary goal is to find pads that allow long distance riding and comfortable sitting without obstructing my legs, and I'm not concerned about their jumping capabilities. What types of pads would you suggest for this particular riding experience?
Which suspension would be best for me 62 or 66 lbs?
My weight is 72 kg. (160 pounds. And I would use it mostly in the city.)
Looking smooth
How much torque on bolts?
Torque sheet spec for 12.9 grade. But the Hub is aluminum (much softer) need to be careful not to overtighten.
@@miniwheelmedia that’s why I am wondering what you ended up torquing to 🧐🤓👍
@@BigORider 17nm ish
when you wanna be gizmoduck irl
🤣🤣 memories
Great Vid my guys! Have a sub and a like
Means the world man!!! Thank you 😊
Torqueing into the jump at the last second is a terrible idea, no matter the wheel. Great video tho
Terrible form. Terribly fun 😂 thanks for watching!! ❤
@rideonetoronto forsure i love jumping 🤘🏼 Mainly referring to the 1 guys advice. On small jumps like that, no big deal. But take that mindset into the real jumps, and it will get you hurt. Separating from your wheel 15 feet in the air is no fun!
@@growforest20yeah these were just smaller jumps that you can have fun and not worry too much about.
He was referring to messing around with the wheel.
much more off-road experience whith Patton ruclips.net/video/eVBamo6OzRI/видео.html
When repairing, the content is good, but the camera focus is so bad that it hurts my eyes 😢
👍
no red locktite on aluminium please... as you could not unscrew them ever
You'll never be able to make an EUC perform as well as a Mountain Bike or Motocross motorcycle in the environment you've put these eWheel's thru here. EUC's rely on angular momentum and inertia sensors to operate properly, once you've taken ground contact away from the eWheel, ur rarely going to have a wheel speed on landing that matches the takeoff speed, putting stresses on the drive train & suspension systems these EUC's weren't designed for. The more height and distance you make the jump, the greater likelyhood of mismatched wheel speed on landing and increased stresses on the drive & suspension. At best, it's like trying to use a Wave Runner like a Fishing boat, you can do it but it's just never gonna perform as well.
That's my take on the practicality of trying to make a EUC into a Motocross bike.
So now that ur ready for questions . . . could you have done that loose mount repair on the Patton while on the trail & what tools would you need ?
Nice Shop !
@@BRyeEUC Maybe I'm just jealous ! 🤭 That said, Rock On ! Got uno mas question for you, if ur willing. How do you deal w/ flats, if you even get them and are these EUC Tires Tubeless or supplied w/ a tube ? (sorry, that's two questions). Happy Trails !
@@BRyeEUC Kewl ! Thx, not too many YT review channels talk about that. After seeing a few teardowns, such as in this vid, I just had to ask. It just doesn't look easy getting to a wheel w/ an internal motor that's been sealed w/ gaskets, O-rings & silicone. I've been layin down the miles the last 3 yrs on a Fat Tire E-bike which has allowed me to Park the Car. The Gas, Tires, Oil & Insurance I wasn't paying for anymore basically financed the E-bike. Last year, here in the Portland/Vancouver area, about a Dozen of those eWheels passed me on the bike trail, and I couldn't catch Any of them to ask questions. So here I am watching every YT vid I can find on the subject because I want one !
I've set a budget of $3,500 bucks for this eWheel but that needs to include a full face Helmet, padding and maybe an essential accessory or two (seat, power pads, goldfish bowl bracket ; ), which has me drawn the $3,200 InMotion Adventure V14. It ticks most the boxes on my EUC wish list for now and Eric @ eWheels was telling me it's more of a "modular" design w/ ease of maintenance in mind. Maybe gaining access for Tire repairs on the V14 won't require a well stocked Snap On Truck to accomplish. I've been following Marty Backe's ElectricUnicycles channel on the V14. It looks like InMotion is throwing their support at the Hall Sensor issue going on w/ his V14 right now. I'm sure since the world is watching, they'll give their due diligence and solve that issue for good. Anyways, I guess the second batch of V14's w/ the Samsung S50 batt's are about a week behind schedule so they will likely be distributed in January.
Thx Again for the input on this, Happy Trails & Merry Thanksgiving !
no seat = no deal
Quite comfortable to sit right on top just stock but i added some foam to add a bit of cushion. Although i imagine it'll be easy to use the same style as og Sherman seats, mount the seat right onto the handlebars
@@deejeh9494 Honestly, a seat design with shocks (because back problems suck) should have been considered as an option in the manufacturing of the final product.
@@deadreckoning425 someone has to design it and at this point i highly doubt euc mfg will do a good job. They can't get pads or bumpers right so keep an eye on aftermarket seats or better yet be the hero you're looking for. Take a bike seat with those built-in springs and pipe clamp it to your wheel
@@deejeh9494 for such a product costing nearly $5000 CDN i expected more
@@deadreckoning425 absolutely agree but people will continue to buy them at whatever cost. This is true across all the mfg. S19 is only a couple hundred less than s22. Master is barely more expensive than T4
patton or commander mini for this style riding.
Круто мужики, тоже взял себе Patton по предзаказу, жду доставку в сентябре. Я из России, Крым.