Walther PDP vs. PPQ

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    • @jcastle614
      @jcastle614 3 года назад

      Gladly take either! Really liking the PPD though. Have to handle them both to choose.stay safe and God bless 🇺🇸☠️🇺🇸!!!

    • @jkelley2091
      @jkelley2091 2 года назад

      Hey Justin, Is this prize thing a hack or is it real?

    • @mikewallace8087
      @mikewallace8087 2 года назад

      I like your calm/humble narration compared to the many other experts . Another respectable person is hrfunk, you may agree.

    • @teddyrobinson1462
      @teddyrobinson1462 2 года назад

      Herman Edwards said that’s why we play the game.

  • @mikewilliams719
    @mikewilliams719 3 года назад +275

    What’s better than a Walther pistol? Two Walther pistols.

    • @rcbishop7580
      @rcbishop7580 3 года назад +9

      Fax.

    • @rcbishop7580
      @rcbishop7580 3 года назад +14

      T.I. said it best... "9 in my right, 45 in my other hand"

    • @rm5282
      @rm5282 3 года назад +6

      How about three ...😆 I with you though, nothing better than a Walther.

    • @uriahg193
      @uriahg193 3 года назад +1

      Glock

    • @youngboyharless9769
      @youngboyharless9769 2 года назад +3

      @@uriahg193 nah

  • @donl7114
    @donl7114 3 года назад +95

    I have a PPQM1 and love the trigger guard mag release. I wish they would make more like that

    • @sivonparansun
      @sivonparansun 3 года назад +4

      All day

    • @chasewalters601
      @chasewalters601 3 года назад +1

      The m2 has it too

    • @sivonparansun
      @sivonparansun 3 года назад +21

      @@chasewalters601 no the M2 has traditional mag release vs European style on HK&PPQm1

    • @chasewalters601
      @chasewalters601 3 года назад +1

      @@sivonparansun I'm talking about where you could press a button with your thumb and the mag falls out

    • @tombombadil4222
      @tombombadil4222 3 года назад +14

      Thank you! The euro mag release is peak.

  • @Mikey-240
    @Mikey-240 3 года назад +116

    You are the Bob Ross of firearms reviews and that’s awesome

    • @astrid779
      @astrid779 3 года назад

      LoL

    • @roeintro
      @roeintro 3 года назад +1

      Indeed, Justin Ross.

    • @johngreen1683
      @johngreen1683 2 года назад +1

      I kept thinking how relaxed I was when listening to a gun review... and after seeing your comment, I thought I couldn't have said it better.

    • @jeromeparker9654
      @jeromeparker9654 Год назад

      yeah...lol he does remind me of Bob Ross the gun world...lol.

  • @nitemare5030
    @nitemare5030 3 года назад +28

    Hot dang. Been waiting on this.
    Eating breakfast while drinking coffee with a Justin review. Great stuff 🇺🇸👍😁

  • @michaelearlgrey
    @michaelearlgrey 3 года назад +29

    I'd be stoked to pick up a PPQ for a few bucks cheaper because of the release of the PDP.

  • @dew2721
    @dew2721 3 года назад +35

    Pumped that I just ordered my first Walther! The PDP!!!!

    • @JustinOpinionChannel
      @JustinOpinionChannel  3 года назад +3

      Awesome - I hope you really enjoy it.

    • @daddystabz
      @daddystabz 3 года назад +2

      Congrats! I have 2 and I love them.

    • @aymanjoudar5425
      @aymanjoudar5425 3 года назад

      @@daddystabz are they better or the G Lock?

    • @daddystabz
      @daddystabz 3 года назад +2

      @@aymanjoudar5425 Walther rocks and is definitely better.

  • @JustinOpinionChannel
    @JustinOpinionChannel  3 года назад +36

    A couple of details I neglect to mention in the video: PDP has more checkering on the mag release; and the extractor on the PDP is much shorter, but still external.

    • @merkinmuffley5444
      @merkinmuffley5444 3 года назад +4

      Was there any difference in perceived muzzle flip?

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 3 года назад +3

      Does it have a loaded chamber function like the PPQ?

    • @dirtysouthjacket
      @dirtysouthjacket 3 года назад +1

      Also alledgely has a tapered barrel chamber on the PDP.

    • @DurrBusDriver
      @DurrBusDriver 3 года назад +1

      @@dirtysouthjacket I believe you are correct. Other reviews I've seen all indicate they are identical at that barrel length.

    • @merkinmuffley5444
      @merkinmuffley5444 3 года назад +1

      @@dirtysouthjacket The barrel is identical between the PPQ and PDP.

  • @rm5282
    @rm5282 3 года назад +21

    Very nice review. I appreciate the fact that you aren't overly animated and can give a calm review of two excellent handguns. You have a new subscriber.

  • @pinoy1hitko
    @pinoy1hitko 3 года назад +38

    The walther PPQ sights were probably the easiest sights I've ever had to change on a handgun... great comparison review!

    • @appalachiangunman9589
      @appalachiangunman9589 3 года назад +3

      I agree, I put Trijicon HD night sights on mine and it was maybe a five-minute job.

    • @dahut3614
      @dahut3614 2 года назад +2

      @@appalachiangunman9589 I put the Trijicons on mine and then noticed that it wasn't nearly as good in the daylight. I think I left a review, saying I would have rather had a laser (like I put on my wife's gun). Mine had faded so much that last year I switched them back. Let me just say that they were *not* easy to find because I seem to have a *lot* of stuff! Of course, the Trijicons were not the freshest to begin with. Optics planet had apparently put a sticker over the freshness date, which I discovered much later, and it has since cost them many thousands of dollars- one of those times that a bird in hand was *not* better than a bush-full, I imagine.

  • @gunsquawk4443
    @gunsquawk4443 3 года назад +115

    Call me crazy, I think I like the PPQ better.

    • @njohnson3331
      @njohnson3331 3 года назад +11

      I like the new grip texture (even though I haven't held it yet), but other than that I agree.

    • @DavidGarcia-lb4xy
      @DavidGarcia-lb4xy 3 года назад +14

      PDP TO Bulky Ppq better for me.

    • @DurrBusDriver
      @DurrBusDriver 3 года назад +3

      I really like my PPQ, but I was also looking at having the slide milled for an optic (so maybe I should just buy the slide - just did that for my P226). I have heard the trigger takeup is better on the PDP but I have not seen one yet.

    • @michaelschwab9563
      @michaelschwab9563 3 года назад +5

      Yup. Pdp is bulky

    • @dannyrbailey
      @dannyrbailey 3 года назад +6

      Really they’re almost identical if you ignore looks. Yes the pdp may be lighter by a few ounces, and optics ready and I’ve heard they shoot the same. Otherwise the trigger I’ve heard is slightly better on the pdp. I also like the new slide and it’s aggressive serrations. Other than that they’re really identical, the pdp is better but not enough to make me want one over the other. That’s my take. I’d like a pdp do dual carry with my M&p haha

  • @Ravens_and_Lilies14
    @Ravens_and_Lilies14 3 года назад +50

    “At first glance you might wonder why there is a new model if they’re so similar.”
    Sir, I’ve been carrying a Glock for years - I promise you I’ve never wondered that lol.

    • @JustinOpinionChannel
      @JustinOpinionChannel  3 года назад +11

      Now, that's funny!

    • @hardcore4476
      @hardcore4476 3 года назад +4

      Lmao 🤣

    • @gregv2821
      @gregv2821 3 года назад +7

      We're all so happy the Glock fanboy has spoken. For the rest of us who own Glocks but like and prefer more ergonomic handguns, we did wonder.

    • @MrBillybooth
      @MrBillybooth 3 года назад

      I don't understand the point, I guess. I only own 4 pistols. (But more rifles...lol). 1st of all, I'm a super curious type. I "wonder" everything. I have a Glock 21, Ruger Service Six .357 mag with upgraded sights and grips, .44 Ruger black powder Old Army, and a Walther PPS .40 S&W. My most accurate shooting is with the Glock 21. All of the sights on all three except the Walther are pretty fine. I bought the Walther specifically as a Conceal Carry. When I first looked through the sights I freaked out! Said to myself; "How can this be accurate?" Seems like a football field worth of play. Just like Justin was describing. (To be fair, I haven't shot it as much as the Glock by a longshot so...). But I kind of suck with the Walther. So, that's kind of disappointing. If at all possible I'd like to change out the rear sight. But I haven't investigated possibilities, if there are any.

  • @edwardmarmion1672
    @edwardmarmion1672 Год назад +1

    The PDP has a very smooth action and not a lot of recoil so it's a lot easier to reset your sight on target

  • @ElderGuy729
    @ElderGuy729 3 года назад +22

    This is EXACTLY the review I have been looking for that compares these two guns. Thank you! Now, the search for an in-stock PDP begins.... 😂
    You have yourself a new subscriber.

    • @JustinOpinionChannel
      @JustinOpinionChannel  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for the nice comment, and for subscribing!

    • @1804Defender
      @1804Defender 3 года назад +1

      Try H&H Shooting Sport in Oklahoma. I got mine from them yesterday morning. They had several in stock

    • @Wombat_Astronaut
      @Wombat_Astronaut 3 года назад +1

      I just bought the last two from AIMsurplus. I dont know whether to be angry about how many hoops i had to jump through to buy mine or be happy that Walther is finally getting its respect...

    • @seveglider8406
      @seveglider8406 2 года назад

      @@JustinOpinionChannel Have You reviewed the Walther CCP M2 9MM Semi Auto?

    • @jerrycohencohen8901
      @jerrycohencohen8901 Год назад

      Love my PPQ M2

  • @tri3pleagent
    @tri3pleagent 3 года назад +15

    Thanks for the comparison, Justin. Exactly what I was looking for.

  • @michaelhatfield3430
    @michaelhatfield3430 3 года назад +1

    Very well done comparison. I have the PPQ in 40S&W and 45ACP and love them. I wanted the 9mm but got an amazing deal on the 40S&W model with 5 magazines. Keep up the great videos. I subscribed and have been binge watching your channel.

  • @bobr7380
    @bobr7380 9 месяцев назад +2

    I already have 3 PPQM2s. Not about to change over to the PDP for the following reason. Golf clubs. Every year golf club makers come out with the newest greatest clubs ever that will make your game even better. The only thing that improves a game is lessons and practice not new clubs. The PPQ is going to do anything you need it to provided your up to the task. For that matter so is the Taurus G3.
    It's the Indian not the arrow.

  • @boss350z5
    @boss350z5 3 года назад +22

    The PPQ sights are insanely easy to change... there arent nearly as many options; but changing rear and front sights on the PPQ requires simple tools, no sight pusher required. Just FYI.

    • @RaddestDad
      @RaddestDad 3 года назад

      I wouldn’t say a sight pusher is a simple tool.

    • @boss350z5
      @boss350z5 3 года назад +4

      @@RaddestDad See edit. There is NO sight pusher required... that is what I meant to say. My error.

    • @boss350z5
      @boss350z5 3 года назад +2

      @@RaddestDad the rear uses a square head slot screw and the front uses a small hex head screw just like the glock front sights.

    • @outtasight5457
      @outtasight5457 3 года назад +4

      Agreed! Changing the sights on my PPQ was easier than the switch on any other gun I own...including Glock.

    • @rewsmokie
      @rewsmokie 3 года назад +2

      I have a PPQ M2...love it, but I still have the stock sights. Which replacement sight are you using? ( looking for ideas )

  • @1TDECK
    @1TDECK 3 года назад +4

    The PPQ looks way better. Especially the M1 with the European magazine release. The PDP looks like a big block. So strange that Walther went this direction.

    • @nejinaji
      @nejinaji 2 года назад

      For easier optic mounting probably

  • @Lorenzo-fw3gx
    @Lorenzo-fw3gx 3 года назад +1

    I love the indepth information you provide on your videos. I was curious about some of the interchangeability. Awesome work! Thanks 👍👍👍

  • @HomesteadMountain
    @HomesteadMountain 3 года назад

    Great video! Love the detailed video work of the guns and explanations of differences.

  • @akhan3682
    @akhan3682 3 года назад +9

    PPQ with the paddle release and arched slide is just all I would want - Great video review, thanks!

  • @RaddestDad
    @RaddestDad 3 года назад +2

    Aimpoint ACRO allows your to cowitness the irons on the PDP

    • @JustinOpinionChannel
      @JustinOpinionChannel  3 года назад +1

      Really? Wow, it must be very thin on the bottom. Good to know - thanks for sharing that!

    • @RaddestDad
      @RaddestDad 3 года назад

      It’s a Walther video so take it for what it’s worth but given how flush it’s fitting it does look like a it could cowitness.

  • @gloriamaletta8667
    @gloriamaletta8667 2 года назад +2

    You really can't go wrong with the Walther P99 PPQ PDP all are top grade combat pistols

  • @skweedlebop
    @skweedlebop 3 года назад

    I have a PPQ45 as my EDC in my IWB holster. When they come out with a PDP45, I might consider it. Looks nice and grippy all around though.

  • @mikestrunk3282
    @mikestrunk3282 Год назад +4

    The PDP is too big and the slide is just ridiculous with those huge slide cuts. I have the PPQ Navy Suppressed

  • @deadeye4543
    @deadeye4543 3 года назад +4

    +The most important difference is the PDP is OPTIC READY. If I'd known that, I would have gotten a PDP to replace my PPQ SC instead of an optic ready S&W MP 2.0 compact. Too late now.

  • @SEAKPhotog
    @SEAKPhotog 3 года назад +4

    The PDP looks like a nice and necessary evolution of the PPQ. Good job, Walther. I love my PPQs and PPS. I'm not in the market for another compact/medium carry gun (currently carry a P10c or Walther .45 or CZ P01/PCR) but if I was this would likely be it. It'd also likely be the next polymer framed gun I'd buy if I was going that way. I like the aesthetics of the PPQ better tho. I admit I was hoping for a double stack PPS replacement or a fun DA/SA hammer fired gun or most of all a steel frame .45. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @awokeone7997
    @awokeone7997 3 года назад

    Like all your head 2 head comparisons, quality and very informative videos. I personally have to give credit to Walther for listening to its customers and paying attention to where the market is going. I like how the PDP looks and the upgrades that it has over the PPQ. Looks like a mix between the PPQ & VP9.

  • @kevinyoung947
    @kevinyoung947 Год назад +1

    Wanted the long slide ppq but it was close to 700 bought the pdp 5” compact on grabagun for 498 three months ago it the first version but still I’m so impressed I shoot it so well by my scone mag I already outshot my glocks and rugers that I have much more practice with.

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 3 года назад +18

    I stopped carrying Glock a few years ago after 25 years of service. I carry a PPS m2 & Q5 when I need more rounds. Love my Walthers.

    • @toynazi
      @toynazi 3 года назад +3

      You just can't beat a Walther. OR a CZ
      I used Glocks for years also. But I now LOVE my pistols, a handful of CZ's and Walthers.

    • @hardcore4476
      @hardcore4476 3 года назад

      Never liked the angle on glocks. What’s PPS m2? I have a walther P22 angel blue. Was eying PPQ and was on wish list but going to have to check out the PDP now. Also want A CZ also but not sure what model. There all sexy!

    • @hardcore4476
      @hardcore4476 3 года назад

      @@toynazi What CZ’s do you own and like the best?

    • @rm5282
      @rm5282 3 года назад +1

      @@hardcore4476 the PPS stands for Police Pistol Slim. It's a single stack 9MM that is easy for carry. The normal configuration is a 6 and 7 round magazines.....the law enforcement edition comes with 6, 7 and 8 round magazines. I have one and love it. The M2 was the second generation of the weapon.

    • @oceaser6977
      @oceaser6977 3 года назад +1

      @@rm5282 good answer. I have a PPS M2 for EDC and a PDP I pick up tmw for home defense

  • @I_am_ENSanity
    @I_am_ENSanity 3 года назад +7

    First pistol I ever owned was a PPQ .45. The first pistol I ever bought/carried was the Q4 Tact. Found my next pistol to get.

    • @jamesmanning8795
      @jamesmanning8795 3 года назад

      This really looks like a winner for sure. I'm very interested in the glock 45 style variation. It's going to be tough deciding between that and the compact model.

  • @NoLies17
    @NoLies17 3 года назад +6

    And here I keep hoping that Walther's new pistol would have a slightly lower bore axis. Instead they essentially do a PPQ M3 with a more square slide for a better optics mounting platform and an extended grip option.

    • @goforbroke2
      @goforbroke2 3 года назад +1

      The bore axis is fine on the PPQ, I shoot 12” steel plates out to 100 yards with my PPQ’s. Don’t get caught up in the hype of a lower bore axis. Tell that to the old timer with the P229 who can out shoot damn near anyone at his gun club.

  • @maryannforester8970
    @maryannforester8970 3 года назад +5

    Soon to be first time gun owner. This has been very helpful with my purchase research! Can’t wait to get out there and get involved in my new sport!

    • @D0TELL
      @D0TELL 6 месяцев назад

      What gun did you end with?

  • @joemurray9196
    @joemurray9196 3 года назад +4

    Love my EDC PPQ subcompact. Trigger is awesome! Not gonna lie..loving the ergonomics on the PDP too!! Any Walther you choose is a great pick!

  • @jeffreybrooks8643
    @jeffreybrooks8643 3 года назад

    Thank you for an outstanding comparison review, Justin! All aspects of both guns clearly discussed. Superb photography with all details well lit and in focus!

  • @thinman8621
    @thinman8621 3 года назад

    Not much difference between the two pistols. Thanks for checking it out and sharing.

  • @leoriskind4623
    @leoriskind4623 3 года назад +3

    Original P99 already had it all and more, DA, SA, no external safety, decocker button , striker indicator, super short reset and nice triger.

  • @jmmartin7766
    @jmmartin7766 3 года назад +5

    Great video! Answered a lot of questions I had...
    With this new model, Walther at least addressed the *only* complaint I had with the PPQ: *Too much air in the sights*
    Unfortunately, it's with the wrong gun--
    Tbh, as others have said, I prefer the more elegant (well stated by you, btw) PPQ...

  • @seanhoude
    @seanhoude 3 года назад

    Still love my Walther Creed. So does everyone else that has tried it. Expected variations in other calibers, but they discontinued it instead.

  • @DerpASherpa117
    @DerpASherpa117 Год назад +2

    German science is ze best in ze Vorld!

  • @darrelljames1178
    @darrelljames1178 3 года назад +1

    The only Reason people preferred Glock vs the PPQ is after market parts, that's it! Because out the box the PPQ is the better gun out the box!!! I'm old school so I'm not much into the red dot in a pistol just yet, imo it's just an accessory/ jewelry... looks nice but really not needed

  • @asueft
    @asueft 3 года назад +4

    The sound of your people, REFRESHING 👍

  • @timetraveler1973
    @timetraveler1973 2 года назад +1

    stick with the PPQ - - PDP is overpriced . better off with a ruger sr9c. or dare i say.... glock... but the ppq is better than all EDIT - I didnt know the PDP price was in the 400 or less range before i made this. If the trigger is even slightly on par with the ppq its gonna be a gem.

  • @WalkVentures4K
    @WalkVentures4K 8 месяцев назад +1

    I wish there was still a choice. PPQ was so good they had to discontinue it to make ppl buy the PDP.

  • @enzov9772
    @enzov9772 Год назад +1

    I'm team PPQ. Mainly because everything else being equal, I just don't like the huge grand canyon slide serrations the PDP has

  • @TheUltimateGhostface
    @TheUltimateGhostface 3 года назад +6

    Ive always been on the fence about the PPQ , I know its a great handgun but it just never won me over so I opted to carry the CZ-P10C and I loved it and it also has a fantastic out of the box trigger for a striker handgun . I actually prefered the P-10C's trigger , its ergonomics and low bore axis over the PPQ . But then I saw the Walther PDP at my local FFL and was immediatly drawn to it . I asked if I could see it and if they mind if I dry fired the trigger . The very first thing about the PDP that really stood out for me is that excellent new grip texture I really like what Walther has done with the grip and it looks good at first glance the PDP has that custom stipple job look , I really like the design of the slide its really easy to rack the slide from anywhere . The trigger is really nice but not mind blowing like many people hype it up to be . The PDP's trigger is more on par to CZ's P10 trigger now , just my opinion . I really like that Walther opted to make the PDP compatible with Glock aftermarket sights which is a huge plus in my book . Aquiring extra Magazines , after market barrels , extended mag releases etc etc , are going to be convient conserding the cross compatibility the PDP had to the PPQ , good thinkinh Walther . Idk its been over 8 years since Ive bought anything from Walther but after I handled the PDP I just had to have it . I think its going to be my new cc

  • @Theplague44
    @Theplague44 3 года назад +3

    Great review Justin. I own the PPQ M2, a Sig P226 MK 25, a Sig P320 X-5 Legion, a Glock 19 Gen 5 and Ruger GP100 .357 Magnum. The PPQ has the best trigger of all, followed by the Sig P320. I do love the DA/SA on my P226 and use that as my primary self defense gun. The PPG is ergonomically the best gun for my small hands (hold the comments, I have size 11 feet) and the overall feel of the PPQ makes it one of my overall favorites. I am not a Glock lover and the PPQ outshines the Glock 19 by far. Sorry Glock lovers.

  • @tizdizzley
    @tizdizzley 3 года назад +5

    Just bought the pdp. I saw so many good reviews and my lgs got some in so I decided to get one and I am pleased. I also have the pps m2. I must say I’m a walther fan.

    • @whatfreedom7
      @whatfreedom7 3 года назад

      How much did you end up paying? I’m having trouble finding prices but the one I did find a price on was a retail of$649. For the full-size.

    • @tizdizzley
      @tizdizzley 3 года назад

      @@whatfreedom7 $599.95 out the door. Full size

  • @cdle007
    @cdle007 Год назад +1

    I was able to handle the PPQ and the PDP back to back. The PPQ felt way nicer in my hand and gripping the gun felt better with the PPQ.

  • @Chiburi
    @Chiburi 3 года назад +4

    The similarities mean you could use a PPQ airsoft as a trainer for indoors and force on force 👍

  • @jamiebrusque5839
    @jamiebrusque5839 3 года назад +1

    Justin is a good Gun-tuber,he has very special Opinions!

  • @wickedeviloverlord
    @wickedeviloverlord 3 года назад +1

    For a duty/carry pistol how is a few ounces lighter better. If it’s a target pistol with a target trigger then you won’t likely carry it. I had a PPQ that I loved but the trigger was so “good” (light) I felt a bit weird carrying it. I sold it and replaced it with the P99, which fixed all my problems. I just don’t think people are understanding what constitutes a good carry trigger and how it differs from a target/competition pistol. I know that I’ll get the whole, “it’s a training issue dude, if you aren’t comfortable with what is a super safe and multi tested trigger than you shouldn’t be carrying at all!” Thing. Well I am trained and I know that all those same jokers wouldn’t carry a revolved hammer back or a 1911 cocked and locked safety off.
    I will also agree with a previously post that the P99/PPQ has arguably the easiest to change sights of any pistol.
    Still, good review and first look. I guess it’s no worse than the PPQ, just basically the same gun but with optics out of the box capability. If an optic is your thing than this is your gun.

  • @xyzaero
    @xyzaero 3 года назад +8

    It is awesome that Walther listened to the customer and rectified every single "drawback" on the PPQ. The PDP has a flattened slide, deep and extruding slide serrations for easier slide racking and a better grip texture. Most important, the PDP keeps the "iron sights" when using a red dot and it takes Glock sites. In my eyes and experience, the PDP is the very best polymer handgun on the market:

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 2 года назад +2

      They didn't lower the bore axis though

    • @subgunsnake6022
      @subgunsnake6022 2 года назад

      @@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Don't believe the low bore axis hype. Many top champion shooters win with high bore axis guns. The lower the bore axis, the greater the lateral side to side recoil(less predictable shot pattern)

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 2 года назад

      @@subgunsnake6022 Yeah I was just talking about how that has been a common complaint about the PPQ series. I never had much problem with it, but lots of people don't like the higher bore axis as compared to the Glock

    • @xyzaero
      @xyzaero 2 года назад +1

      @@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 they could not, because lowering the bore axis would have required a total new design. The PDP is just a heavy upgraded PPQ with most parts like barrel, slide, grip interchangeable between PDP and PPQ.

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 2 года назад +2

      @@xyzaero I realize that.

  • @josuejimenez6174
    @josuejimenez6174 3 года назад +1

    The xs night sights for the m2 are so much better than the OG sights

  • @jeffstanley4593
    @jeffstanley4593 3 года назад +4

    It was real conscientious of you not to shoot out the bullseye so we could tell which target was which.

  • @jimbograves1576
    @jimbograves1576 3 года назад

    Would like to get my hand around that PDP grip. Looks comfortable, but not about to dump my PPQ M2 5" to get one of these. I'm good.

  • @christianhuff8629
    @christianhuff8629 3 года назад

    Found you from this video. Liked and subscribed! Thanks!

  • @joephysics5469
    @joephysics5469 3 года назад +3

    Word has it that they will likely sell it soon enough with the threaded barrel so you won't have the cost of buying it separately.

  • @snoodlefoots
    @snoodlefoots 3 года назад +2

    Pretty nicely done video ,since they were shot side by side
    would like to know Which one
    had the Less Felt Recoil

  • @franciscoarrillaga87
    @franciscoarrillaga87 3 года назад +3

    In your years of experience with guns and gun companies would you dare to predict a PDP in subcompact or do you think they are done with only three models.

    • @hardcore4476
      @hardcore4476 3 года назад

      I don’t think they’ll do a sub compact. Maybe different calibers down the road but the we’re pretty positive no subs..

  • @nopro5433
    @nopro5433 3 года назад +1

    Another great review I’m a big Walther fan for years PPQ/99AS/currently Q5 with an OD PPQ Stippled body and HS 507K interesting when I first saw the slide difference thought of Glock kind of a turn off for me I do like the narrow muzzle about the only drawback?JMO. I see you mentioned you can change slides out that would also include being able to use a Q5 Upper? Interesting on the trigger spring I switched mine out a ways back to a sprinco smooths it out even nicer than fac.Walther may have picked up on that?.🇺🇸🍻🤜🏻

  • @maxfit68906
    @maxfit68906 3 года назад +3

    Not seeing much of a difference from my PPQ M1 to switch over. No thanks.

    • @edstringer1138
      @edstringer1138 3 года назад

      I have the PPQ m1 with a Apex trigger and aftermarket sights , Im thinking the same thing

    • @protectiverailroaddad7541
      @protectiverailroaddad7541 3 года назад +2

      I have 2 ppq m2’s and to me the PDP is just a next generation ppq. I’m going to get one eventually but that’s just because I love walther handguns

    • @morgizmo87
      @morgizmo87 3 года назад

      Have a ppq. Not enough reason to switch to be sure. Maybe if it was my first Walther I would opt for pdp, certainly if I was interested in optics.

    • @jackomalley3687
      @jackomalley3687 3 года назад

      @@edstringer1138 i agree my ppq m2 with apex is just as good. The only reason for pdp is if you want optics. My other problem i paid $478 for my ppq deakers want 749 for pdp. By The time you get spex trigger i could have bought an x5 legion

  • @GhostDragon907
    @GhostDragon907 2 года назад +1

    I have both and the PDP is a better pistol all-around.
    With over 600 rounds through my 4.5" PDP without any mods I deemed it worthy of upgrading.
    After another 500 rounds with the modified PDP I will put it up against any polymer striker fired pistol except my FK 7.5 BRNO.
    See my video on the PDP.

  • @murphytoadster9864
    @murphytoadster9864 2 года назад

    PPQ is only a shadow of the handsome features of theP99

  • @jincardona
    @jincardona 3 года назад +2

    Great review. If I didn't already own the PPQ, or if I committed to a red dot, I would definitely purchase the PDP.

  • @FluffRat
    @FluffRat 3 года назад +3

    It looks like they changed it mostly to reduce machining time on the slide. The closeup at 4:45 is a perfect example, as you can see from the tool marks that the cutter was able to take significantly fewer passes both on the rear surface and around the outside. If it still runs just as well then it's down to cost and cosmetics, IMHO.

    • @justhere8149
      @justhere8149 3 года назад

      Agreed no way the PDP can edc as comfortable and conceal as easy as the PPQ because the PDP slide looks as wide as a Glock 20. Cost cutting was my first thought as well it is like the Ruger LC9s and then the Ruger EC9s or the Karh P9 vs the CW9..

  • @KeanonGilliamSlang369
    @KeanonGilliamSlang369 3 года назад +3

    I love my PPQ 45 so I'll wait till the PDP 45 comes out if Walther is planning to make a 45acp version.

    • @rm5282
      @rm5282 3 года назад +1

      I love my PPQ 45 too. I am going to get the PDP 9MM though. I would love to see thePDPin 45.

    • @ArmyGreensTanBoots
      @ArmyGreensTanBoots 3 года назад +2

      I'm glad I picked up the threaded version of the 45. I have had no regrets.

    • @KeanonGilliamSlang369
      @KeanonGilliamSlang369 3 года назад

      @@ArmyGreensTanBoots Have you used a suppressor on it yet? My suppressor is currently in jail, can't wait to use it on the PPQ 45.

  • @MichaelRubin336
    @MichaelRubin336 3 года назад +3

    Walther said that you can co-witness the iron sights and a red dot in many cases.

  • @msim28
    @msim28 3 года назад

    You know what. Sootch is the only one I have subscribed to. But, due to the fact that you tell the distance of your target and show the shots, I will subscribe to you and support the bell. I hope you make money of me hitting the button because other youtubers just wanna shoot from 6ft away and then create excuse for why they didn't group ... Blah

  • @catchk9
    @catchk9 3 года назад +1

    I have a PPQ already. There is not enough difference to make me go spend almost $700 for a very similar gun. I love my PPQ just not the sights!

    • @opmike343
      @opmike343 3 года назад

      This is the equivalent of a mid cycle refresh in car terms. Minor improvements designed to keep the product "fresh" and entice new buyers. Not really targeted at trying to get existing customers out of their current product.

  • @shanemac75
    @shanemac75 3 года назад +2

    I like my new Steyr L9A2 more than my PPQ 5". Went into my LGS today to buy this PDP anyway and came home with an Arex Delta X. Arex is much lighter & slimmer for carry. Traded a BBtech for it that shot great but the grip sucked.

    • @b.jak7
      @b.jak7 2 года назад

      Can you tell me your impressions about trigger, muzzle flip and recoil?
      Thanks

    • @shanemac75
      @shanemac75 2 года назад +1

      @@b.jak7 in the Steyr, the trigger has less take up & has way less muzzle flip than the Walther..the recoil seems to push straight back. My PPQ trigger does have a much more defined wall and reset though..& the mag button is better. Equally accurate for me. My deciding factor was the comfortable Steyr grip.

  • @chevykent77
    @chevykent77 3 года назад +1

    Those groups are sad for a walter ppq. Mine is a tack driver. I hate finger groves on ppq. Slide serrations could be better. Sig 320 serrations about perfect. Wall on ppq trigger to soft for carry....... think I might sell mine .

    • @77Infidel
      @77Infidel 3 года назад +1

      Kent, you are 100% correct. Sold my M1 for those reasons. Gripping the slide was more odd than many of my other pistols. As you say, great trigger, but was too easy to double tap when not intended. I feel more comfortable with my CZ 75D PCR. I am more comfortable with a decocker for carry purposes.
      If you sell it, you will miss it. But you get over it.

  • @briandimartino8280
    @briandimartino8280 3 года назад +2

    Great review!

  • @ResurrectDecoys
    @ResurrectDecoys 2 года назад +1

    I'd almost just call it the PPQ M3

  • @clee6746
    @clee6746 3 года назад +9

    Great review as always ! I have the PPQ M2, to me the major advantage of the PDP is the red dot sight option, it's a good feature for people with "old eyes" like me. Apart from that, I would think the two are basically the same gun, both are excellent firearms for the price in my opinion. If I am on the market to choose between the two, I certainly would go for the PDP.

  • @ejungblom9405
    @ejungblom9405 3 года назад +3

    Nice review! I'm going to buy some Talon grips now for my PPQ'S!

    • @brighthought11
      @brighthought11 3 года назад

      talon grips are a must on any polymer gun imho

  • @gloriamaletta8667
    @gloriamaletta8667 3 года назад

    Prefer the tapered or rounded slide on the PPQ and P99 over the flat or squared slide kind of reminds me of the Beretta APX that I'm not very crazy about not that it isn't functional for racking the slide just not crazy about how it looks maybe in time it will grow on me l do like the new grip texture

  • @hondasaurusrex6998
    @hondasaurusrex6998 3 года назад +3

    Had a PPQ... trade it in before this whole circus started. Miss it. The stupid things we do.... Great stuff as always. Stay safe and well.

    • @hondasaurusrex6998
      @hondasaurusrex6998 3 года назад

      @westbender 820 I traded in my for Sig P365. Whatta mistake....

    • @5jjt
      @5jjt 3 года назад

      @westbender 820 I shot a PPQ & a VP9 back to back and thought the VP9 had a marginal edge.

    • @bev8200
      @bev8200 3 года назад

      Yeah I put a 1911 through a 500 round break In before it all 🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @77Infidel
      @77Infidel 3 года назад

      Had a PPQ M1. Great gun, sold it in order to purchase a CZ 75D PCR. Whenever I miss the PPQ, the PCR is there to console me.

    • @Joetrout
      @Joetrout 3 года назад

      @@5jjt i have both like the ppq little better.

  • @tonyborck3169
    @tonyborck3169 3 года назад +1

    I waited to see what Walther was coming out with in 2021.... I'm sorry I waited the two months. The Q4 tac is IMO better than any other Walther pistol out there for the $ versus options. First gun I've bought that made me a better shooter out of the box.

  • @Username-ld7ho
    @Username-ld7ho 2 года назад +1

    The Walther pdp is awesome. The slide is smooth, the takedown is probable the best takedown out of any pistols out there, the magazine release is nice and reliable, the mags drop out perfectly every time, and there’s no scratches on them. Even after a few range trips. My sig p365 just had to use the mags once to get them all scratched up. And I didn’t even drop them. It’s not a big deal tho, but still. Accuracy is on point. Grip texture is awesome, and it gives you a lot of real estate for holding it in place. You can see at the end of the slide on the left side. On top of the rail, you got that little plastic ledge. It’s for your left thumb to hold the gun down while shooting. Muzzle flip is pretty much eliminated that way. Also the angle of the grip is perfect. Presenting the gun gives me almost 100% perfect sight alignment every time. The slide lock release is perfect. Nice and long. I believe that the Walther pdp is the best pistol out there. I personally don’t own one. My dad does. I own a glock 19 gen 3 and a glock 48 mos. great guns, and I love them. But shooting the Walther is just perfect. And it’s not even hard to carry. I carry on my hip, and granted, just wearing a t-shirt won’t cut it this way. But with an over shirt it’s perfect. The clip & carry holster for it from Amazon is perfect. For like $30, you can’t get better. I believe it also accommodates for a red dot. I have that problem with my 48 mos. I just put a red dot on it, and my holster won’t fit anymore. I paid like $50 for it. I could cut it a bit, but still. I’d rather just buy a different holster that also accommodates for a light. Sorry for the rant. If you get a Walther pdp and a walther pps m2, that would be the best duo in my opinion. You could probably go for a sig p320 xcompact or xcarry along side the p365 sas, and that would probably be the perfect duo, but you can’t go wrong with the Walthers. They just look right.

  • @robertdepyssler2769
    @robertdepyssler2769 3 года назад +2

    Starting to look like a Biker there Justin ! Lol Always enjoy your reviews !

  • @merkinmuffley5444
    @merkinmuffley5444 3 года назад +2

    The point of the "beaver tail" on the PPQ digs into my thumb knuckle. Will the redesigned PDP beaver tail fix that? It seems a lot of people have that problem.

    • @5jjt
      @5jjt 3 года назад

      I saw Bob Vogel has a pretty gnarly scar where you are experiencing discomfort on your thumb knuckle.
      I think, if the hand needs to ride high, this may be unavoidable.

  • @al01100
    @al01100 3 года назад +1

    I prefer the ppq, I've got 6 of them

  • @RaddestDad
    @RaddestDad 3 года назад +4

    This is what we all wanted

  • @PlanetRibooted
    @PlanetRibooted 3 года назад +1

    Ok, I want a PPQ slide on a PDP frame.

  • @MonstersOfTheUniverse
    @MonstersOfTheUniverse 3 года назад +1

    I noticed your rear sight waindage is set ever so slightLy to the right- which is probably why you’re a little right on your target. Excellent review. I’m autopsy about the height of the bore axis of lower than PpQ?

  • @andrewzabinski2205
    @andrewzabinski2205 3 года назад +1

    The airspace difference in the rear sight is noticeable in your grouping. The lateral movement is greater with the PPQ compared to the PDP. It is not 100% but can be observed in the grouping. Overall, glad to know that Walther is do product improvement and not remaining static.

  • @mikelewis809
    @mikelewis809 3 года назад +1

    I'm still trying to find mags for my PPQ 45.
    I guess I have another option when I pick up a Walther in 9mm.

  • @bosse641
    @bosse641 3 года назад +3

    The PDP sure looks better imo.

  • @omelborpon3159
    @omelborpon3159 Год назад +1

    Just watched for the Led Zeppelin hat. A classic.

  • @robflores5172
    @robflores5172 Год назад +1

    Held and played around with a PDP today at my local gun store and it was amazing. Easy for me to like as an HK VP9 user.

  • @murphytoadster9864
    @murphytoadster9864 2 года назад +1

    The PDP is what I imagine artificial intelligence deciding what looks good

  • @elainemoore7382
    @elainemoore7382 Год назад +1

    Always appreciate this reviewer's willingness to video record himself firing round after round after round.

  • @z06ix
    @z06ix 2 года назад +1

    I am happy with my PPQM2.....

  • @merkinmuffley5444
    @merkinmuffley5444 3 года назад +3

    Was there any difference in perceived muzzle flip?

    • @tonyl3762
      @tonyl3762 3 года назад

      That's what I want to know.

  • @yeehah1984
    @yeehah1984 3 года назад +2

    "The Song of My People", Sing baby sing,

  • @Hunter-eh4pz
    @Hunter-eh4pz 3 года назад +2

    Love the new frame, hate the slide. I loved the ppq's slide.

    • @kinguin7
      @kinguin7 3 года назад

      Find someone who feels the opposite way, and y'all and each walk away happy.

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 3 года назад +1

      I always thought the PPQ was sort of ugly and reminiscent of a Hi-Point (that got to be a joke on the YT). This is ugly too, but in a less Hi-Point way. Slight improvement though and probably more functional. Those serrations look very grippy.

    • @kinguin7
      @kinguin7 3 года назад

      @@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 part of why I prefer the P99, a lot of other Walther's are... IDK if I'd say they're ugly, but not to my taste. Too rounded.

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 3 года назад +1

      @@kinguin7 Yeah I like the P99 also. The PDP is slightly reminiscent of it, but has gone full tactical which is certainly different. I have to give it up to Glock, they haven't bounced around to different styles chasing trends, but then again they have a ridiculous market share just because all the boomers have them. ; )

    • @kinguin7
      @kinguin7 3 года назад +1

      @@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 the only easily visible change I can think of is adding finger grooves, then removing them lol.

  • @barry6557
    @barry6557 3 года назад

    Wanted a PPQ ended up with a Glock now I want a PDP. I believe PDP will be my next pistol.

  • @gunmonkey6545
    @gunmonkey6545 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video. I have to say that aside from the one flier, I thought that you shot the PDP better.

    • @JustinOpinionChannel
      @JustinOpinionChannel  3 года назад

      I felt that too. I wasn't shooting particularly great that day - but "it is what it is" as they say. I show what really happens, even when I'm not all that proud.