Pretty sure the US government already has a patent on the thc molecule. Did that years ago because they knew what was coming. But yet it's still classified as plant with no medicinal value...I may be mistaken..but I believe I read that a few years ago. So they technically didn't patent a plant..just the main molecule from the plant. ✌️
Patens for weed strains is a bad ideal. The people pushing them are picking the starting line beginning with their strains, and not the ones they used of other peoples work to breed those plants. All plants should not be patented. Most of those traits and phenos already exist in the seed. Giving them a patent just because they tweezed it out first would be wrong
I agree, do they hold patents for industrial food strains? I read some Chinese dude is in prison for smuggling drought resistant corn seeds. This industry is going to end up like alcohol industry, where Budweiser is king.
These guys are greedy assholes, they were talking about people using their work, what about the 200 years of breeding the guys did in Afghanistan for the la affie that the dna guys call their own. It's bullshit and if it happens they will ruin cannabis for everyone.
Hi! This is the cannabis community...the real one!!! I wish the future French one will loom like this one!!! But someone like Kevin Jodrey seems to be unique! Way to go! Have a lifted one and lots of good vibes from France growers family
we who grow and grow seeds are, after all, some of the most important protectors and breeders of our seed repertoire. especially now that we know that the medical aspect is all-round and that we have a plant where we have just learned that it is in fact a household medicine that can improve the quality of life for a lot of people.
I really like HSO, Among the more known and reputable sources. They provide most of there genetics at reasonable prices. Im really interested in their blue dream and chocolate mint og. Hopefully it's legal soon. We can all grow our own.
I love the show but I do have a hard time hearing this being on the east coast are laws are a joke . I have been breeding 20+ years and being able to sell seeds sounds a long ways away still. Your bubba's gift was bad ass I had a very nice coffee and oil pheno thanks so much again
Yo the sign language interpreter is over here straight killing it. I don't speak sign at all but that shit looks on point to me. Also I don't really understand what Kev means by the cabage run over by a tractor reference. Fox tailed nug?
Lmfao I thought the sign language translator was an official panel member not in the immediate conversation throwing mad shit about the three blokes chatting 😂😂😂
You know the government has all the genetics they’ve collected over the decades stored somewhere throughout the world. They hold some of the best weed ever bred.
Exactly. The research done at the u of Mississippi for many decades has resulted in the government owning over 5,000 strains. There is a reason it is becoming legal all at once worldwide and I personally believe it has nothing to do with the health of the public.
I recommend braking up your stuff by hand. I always find seeds in the stash, not consistently but one seed per ounce for example. I notice that a lot of new smokers grind their herb and also the seeds in the process. That being said. Grow your own once you find a seed from a batch that suits you. True that you will be limited to what you grow but trust that it gets easier to grow as you build experience. Then you may even be able to breed at a friends house or something of the like to not pollinate all the precious females.
B.O.G makes some great genetics and a some really cool old school hippies. Short flowering time, large yields, pest and mold resistant and superior flowers. Great for our Michigan outdoor growing season or indoor for fast flowering. Any other growers work with BOG? If I had to choose favorite flower producer GGG genetics. Gage green group has amazing top shelf producers but haven't gotten yields like BOG. Exciting times here in Michigan. Even more so than 08' when we went medical.
Nice thinking about a autolemon haze crossed to a auto royal purple that was then crossed to a gelato 33 has a huge size creme lemon flavor with huge thick stems
These guys are the teachers of this generation. They are professionals in plant horticultural science. Education is key! Luckily the USA is half way onboard. It did and continues to create thousands of more jobs. The economy has been rocky because of natural disasters in recent years. So it has brought a lot of Tax Revenue. To stay up to date with Cannabis News or If you're looking for a job in legal cannabis you can Check out cannabistraininguniversity.com for a Cannabis Education Degree.
The Original OG Kush Terpene Analysis: Nerolidol: .85% Myrcene: .57% R-limonene: .44% B-caryophyllene: .43% linalool: .19% alpha terpineol .17% alpha-Humulene: .13% Farnesene: .13% 24% THC in the Original OG kush Cultivar. 0% CBD.
Not quite so. I grow my own stuff and breed at a buddys for seeds. Therefore i just created my own cultivar and strain. Someone would have to take all my plants and seeds to truly make it their own and theres no interest in that because im not selling. I give all my weed away or smoke it.
@@rollyrolas I respectfully disagree. It's not your strains or genetics they're after. They could care less. But the second you develop something that impacts the market like say gg4 or blue dream, theyll come knocking. You may have a handsome pay day on your hands if you had it patented. If not someone else could easily claim it if they got hold of those specific genetics. The problem is eventually all the small tier farmers and breeders will be bought out of their genetics as the machine consolidates the entire market into a couple of hands.
The other side is that broad utility patents may inadvertently cover the genetics you are working with because theyve been working with them too. This will totally negate any chance of you ever producing plants for the general public to purchase... They're culling the competition by making us believe patenting our own stuff will save us, when really it opens us up to being bought out. There is no rightful owner of any genetics. Plants are plants and they should belong to whoever chooses to utilize them however they wish. If they patent a strain and find you have it in production then you'll being staring down the barrel of a lawsuit. Much like corn farmers whose crop was pollinated by monsantos crop next door. The next year their corn tests positive for Monsanto genetics and its game over.
Aha at 24:00 it’s funny the way he is trying to make it sound like he agrees with all the (in my view very wise and right) talk about making genetics open-source, but then puts a caveat on it where he’s like “We’ve got to share... But also I don’t want to share the actually good strains I have.” When he says “If I’m the only one who has it then I can charge whatever I want, but if someone else has it and you try to see a bad version people will turn it down,” that sounds an awful lot like nakedly saying “I don’t want to be expected to grow at a high standard, because it’s easier if people will give a high price no matter how bad it is...” If all producers had that attitude, then people would be paying much higher prices for much lower quality prices. Having to compete with the growers who do put their heart into producing a great product, and then sell it at a fair price (even if that’s high relative to more middle of the road flowers) is what forces the corporations who presently monopolize so much of the legal growing market to compromise and not just take advantage of consumers as they would in a total seller’s market. I understand the instinct to not want to have to share a valuable asset like genetics that you know will work, but I think that allowing cannabis genetics to be patented would be a catastrophe for the overall industry, just like it has been around Monsanto with other crops, and it would be a catastrophe for consumers. I have a lot of problems with the corporatization of cannabis in general (and I fear the same will become of any psychedelics which become legalized on a scale that opens up significant markets), and the way small producers get pushed to the margins by big corporations if they can stay in business at all... But I think that protecting cannabis genetics as an open-source library would go a long way towards preventing that process by preventing the genetics themselves from becoming totally commodified the way the physical product is... I think it would also accelerate the progress in cannabis breeding immensely- if anyone with an interest in and knowledge of breeding had access to whatever genetics they thought would produce the results they were hunting for, whether that’s ancient landraces or contemporary hybrids... Of course, as the landscape of the industry changes, we’ll have to figure out the ideal situation which allows for breeders and growers (including small ones) to make a living while also serving the common good and the interests of consumers... But I think this is an area which is a necessary starting point, not something we should compromise on.
@@johnkennedy2487 what do you know I'm here experiencing it first hand in person 3D real life what the hell do you know??????I'm doing my shit legal. That's what's up
@@supersmokey1840 a cannabis activist in his early thirties has no other choice but to follow suit everything's becoming legal on my future plans are shut down until further legalization here in Arizona
Cookies is quality trash, end of story. Is it good yea, but it dont get you high only good cookies is sunset sherbet and it's a sherbinski strain so there's that
I lobe the way that guy in the black hat thinks about what makes him happy about his farming process. I would love to do time on his farm and learn some of what he knows so I could use that knowledge in my own small medical grow and share that knowledge with others like me. We are limited to 5 plants over 5 inches. That limit makes a learning mistake into an unmedicated patient and that doesn't help. I feel like we need an education program and grow gear specifically aimed at medical home growers and a seed/clone program sponsored by and controlled by the state for medical patients only. They are allowing for craft grow licensing as an income stream but as patients we are limited to grow less canopy than we are allowed to purchase in dry form so it forces us into unequal economy against growing your own. I mean I put in 2 seeds and got wow mothers but can I clone n flower everything below 5 inches so I have failure space? No I cant and 3 big plants are more apt to get sick or weak and cost my crop. We need method applied to figure out the how to of good farming under the 5 plant limit.
You have to have a “do it yourself” attitude to move foreword in your cannabis pathway . We all learned mostly from forums and reading and practice. You have to be willing to take the risk of failing and losing a plant or two. If that’s the worst that happens, then why bitch? How about learning and risking losing a crop due to beginner mistakes, all the while risking decades in prison for said small grow? We risked getting busted and taught ourselves. You don’t need government funded education plans to teach you to grow. Get out there and try.... make some mistakes . It’s good for you.
Shout out to the sign guy!
Hes so relax and happy.
Time to learn how to sign our favorite pheno types.
I didn’t know that the Kid from Orange County Choppers knew ASL.
He looks like Steve cantwell from green life
Screw patents, it’s a friggin plant and I’m growing it.
@@afrosquatch what lol? What does white have to do with it?
@@afrosquatch ur ignorant....smh...
That's what I'm talking about brother!😏👍
Pretty sure the US government already has a patent on the thc molecule. Did that years ago because they knew what was coming. But yet it's still classified as plant with no medicinal value...I may be mistaken..but I believe I read that a few years ago. So they technically didn't patent a plant..just the main molecule from the plant. ✌️
Patens for weed strains is a bad ideal. The people pushing them are picking the starting line beginning with their strains, and not the ones they used of other peoples work to breed those plants.
All plants should not be patented. Most of those traits and phenos already exist in the seed. Giving them a patent just because they tweezed it out first would be wrong
I agree, do they hold patents for industrial food strains? I read some Chinese dude is in prison for smuggling drought resistant corn seeds.
This industry is going to end up like alcohol industry, where Budweiser is king.
not to mention genetic drifting. how do you determine if its the same genetics if it evolves. its laughable
These guys are greedy assholes, they were talking about people using their work, what about the 200 years of breeding the guys did in Afghanistan for the la affie that the dna guys call their own. It's bullshit and if it happens they will ruin cannabis for everyone.
It’s all a race to the USPTO to file ownership of something you “created” using other peoples’ “creations” lol
THANK YOU!!!!!!! an amazing panel up there! So much knowledge and years of dedication to this plant. Growers love!
Hi! This is the cannabis community...the real one!!! I wish the future French one will loom like this one!!! But someone like Kevin Jodrey seems to be unique! Way to go!
Have a lifted one and lots of good vibes from France growers family
we who grow and grow seeds are, after all, some of the most important protectors and breeders of our seed repertoire. especially now that we know that the medical aspect is all-round and that we have a plant where we have just learned that it is in fact a household medicine that can improve the quality of life for a lot of people.
sweet! lovin the clip drops from this conference! thx future cannabis project!!
Never seen someone throw so many gang signs
King stack
Hood life
Straight Gangster. Nonstop repping his crew-
Most underrated comment of all time
Took me a minute...lol
Lol
Man look at these heavy weights. Their insight is priceless.
good luck fuckers, make your money and go live the good life, i will be keeping my shit underground like it has always been.#startkeepingseeds
I really like HSO, Among the more known and reputable sources. They provide most of there genetics at reasonable prices. Im really interested in their blue dream and chocolate mint og. Hopefully it's legal soon. We can all grow our own.
thanks for sharing! great listen
I LOVE THE CANNABIS COMMUNITY!!!
Great information! Very important subject
bro, dr grinspoon IS on another level morphologically and chemically
It came from a cut of Quaze
I love the show but I do have a hard time hearing this being on the east coast are laws are a joke . I have been breeding 20+ years and being able to sell seeds sounds a long ways away still. Your bubba's gift was bad ass I had a very nice coffee and oil pheno thanks so much again
Short as fuck but a sativa look
Yo the sign language interpreter is over here straight killing it. I don't speak sign at all but that shit looks on point to me. Also I don't really understand what Kev means by the cabage run over by a tractor reference. Fox tailed nug?
Lmfao I thought the sign language translator was an official panel member not in the immediate conversation throwing mad shit about the three blokes chatting 😂😂😂
Magic melon sounds prime time. I really want a clone for my backyard but have only seen seeds so far. 😭
Best to start somewhere. find a goodie and clone it
Grow the seeds and take clones
seeds grow far better plants than clones
PINEAPPLE teaches us HOW to do it
He took 1 strain
Made millions from proprietary garage work.
God-Tier cannabis youtube.
was that compliment at the end I'm confused
Close your eyes when listening to Kevin. It's Gordon Gehko...?
If a go is "smoked"... can you get sick from it? Like" eating it?
You know the government has all the genetics they’ve collected over the decades stored somewhere throughout the world. They hold some of the best weed ever bred.
Exactly. The research done at the u of Mississippi for many decades has resulted in the government owning over 5,000 strains. There is a reason it is becoming legal all at once worldwide and I personally believe it has nothing to do with the health of the public.
Gene has it 100% right starting at 9 minutes.
I like low thc high cbd and it's hard for me.. to find a good strain seed
Get something from New Zealand.
Blueberry Kush has medium CBD
I recommend braking up your stuff by hand. I always find seeds in the stash, not consistently but one seed per ounce for example. I notice that a lot of new smokers grind their herb and also the seeds in the process. That being said. Grow your own once you find a seed from a batch that suits you. True that you will be limited to what you grow but trust that it gets easier to grow as you build experience. Then you may even be able to breed at a friends house or something of the like to not pollinate all the precious females.
To cool you guys.
B.O.G makes some great genetics and a some really cool old school hippies. Short flowering time, large yields, pest and mold resistant and superior flowers. Great for our Michigan outdoor growing season or indoor for fast flowering. Any other growers work with BOG? If I had to choose favorite flower producer GGG genetics. Gage green group has amazing top shelf producers but haven't gotten yields like BOG. Exciting times here in Michigan. Even more so than 08' when we went medical.
RIP BOG 🙏
we need a Lemon Cream type flavor would blow up like a lemon skunk x wedding cake
Exotic genetics has a Lemon Meringue out that may satisfy that urge...give em a try.
Nice thinking about a autolemon haze crossed to a auto royal purple that was then crossed to a gelato 33 has a huge size creme lemon flavor with huge thick stems
Kashmir x lemon Thai would make a nice lemon cream flavor.
These guys are the teachers of this generation. They are professionals in plant horticultural science. Education is key! Luckily the USA is half way onboard. It did and continues to create thousands of more jobs. The economy has been rocky because of natural disasters in recent years. So it has brought a lot of Tax Revenue. To stay up to date with Cannabis News or If you're looking for a job in legal cannabis you can Check out cannabistraininguniversity.com for a Cannabis Education Degree.
great stuff
10:40 GOT STUCK WITH 10 FUKN UNITS OF SHOE LACES
Soaking this knowledge up.
Most people don't know what they want until you tell them.
Hahaha yea most... however anybody that smells me anywhere wants it
Monsanto loves patents on seeds
Now called Bayer ...
Not in Guatemala, they banned that seed patent idea BS
Meanwhile Phylos bioscience took everyone’s cuts and is gonna patent each strain .
But they have no one's cuts...
The Original OG Kush Terpene Analysis:
Nerolidol: .85%
Myrcene: .57%
R-limonene: .44%
B-caryophyllene: .43%
linalool: .19%
alpha terpineol .17%
alpha-Humulene: .13%
Farnesene: .13%
24% THC in the Original OG kush Cultivar. 0% CBD.
Not quite so. I grow my own stuff and breed at a buddys for seeds. Therefore i just created my own cultivar and strain. Someone would have to take all my plants and seeds to truly make it their own and theres no interest in that because im not selling. I give all my weed away or smoke it.
@@rollyrolas I respectfully disagree. It's not your strains or genetics they're after. They could care less. But the second you develop something that impacts the market like say gg4 or blue dream, theyll come knocking. You may have a handsome pay day on your hands if you had it patented. If not someone else could easily claim it if they got hold of those specific genetics. The problem is eventually all the small tier farmers and breeders will be bought out of their genetics as the machine consolidates the entire market into a couple of hands.
The other side is that broad utility patents may inadvertently cover the genetics you are working with because theyve been working with them too. This will totally negate any chance of you ever producing plants for the general public to purchase... They're culling the competition by making us believe patenting our own stuff will save us, when really it opens us up to being bought out. There is no rightful owner of any genetics. Plants are plants and they should belong to whoever chooses to utilize them however they wish. If they patent a strain and find you have it in production then you'll being staring down the barrel of a lawsuit. Much like corn farmers whose crop was pollinated by monsantos crop next door. The next year their corn tests positive for Monsanto genetics and its game over.
I want some tractor cabbage
can someone please post the instagram/social accounts for the participants of this panel?!
instagram.com/meangenefrommendocino/
instagram.com/kevinjodrey/
instagram.com/thehumboldtseedcompany/
instagram.com/eqgenetics/
Aha at 24:00 it’s funny the way he is trying to make it sound like he agrees with all the (in my view very wise and right) talk about making genetics open-source, but then puts a caveat on it where he’s like “We’ve got to share... But also I don’t want to share the actually good strains I have.” When he says “If I’m the only one who has it then I can charge whatever I want, but if someone else has it and you try to see a bad version people will turn it down,” that sounds an awful lot like nakedly saying “I don’t want to be expected to grow at a high standard, because it’s easier if people will give a high price no matter how bad it is...” If all producers had that attitude, then people would be paying much higher prices for much lower quality prices. Having to compete with the growers who do put their heart into producing a great product, and then sell it at a fair price (even if that’s high relative to more middle of the road flowers) is what forces the corporations who presently monopolize so much of the legal growing market to compromise and not just take advantage of consumers as they would in a total seller’s market.
I understand the instinct to not want to have to share a valuable asset like genetics that you know will work, but I think that allowing cannabis genetics to be patented would be a catastrophe for the overall industry, just like it has been around Monsanto with other crops, and it would be a catastrophe for consumers. I have a lot of problems with the corporatization of cannabis in general (and I fear the same will become of any psychedelics which become legalized on a scale that opens up significant markets), and the way small producers get pushed to the margins by big corporations if they can stay in business at all... But I think that protecting cannabis genetics as an open-source library would go a long way towards preventing that process by preventing the genetics themselves from becoming totally commodified the way the physical product is... I think it would also accelerate the progress in cannabis breeding immensely- if anyone with an interest in and knowledge of breeding had access to whatever genetics they thought would produce the results they were hunting for, whether that’s ancient landraces or contemporary hybrids... Of course, as the landscape of the industry changes, we’ll have to figure out the ideal situation which allows for breeders and growers (including small ones) to make a living while also serving the common good and the interests of consumers... But I think this is an area which is a necessary starting point, not something we should compromise on.
I love collecting seeds
LEGALSTATESMOKIN COLORADO
Lol! Y'all crazy.
What about Mexican cartel genetics Mexico is getting ready too legalize and tax the U.S.A. major strains in mexico
Dr.philgud 4.24/7 what are some of those Mexican strains called
cartel mix indica hybirds with the old sativa columb seed stock. So now genetics have degraded. no going back. Try again next time type thing.
@@johnkennedy2487 what do you know I'm here experiencing it first hand in person 3D real life what the hell do you know??????I'm doing my shit legal. That's what's up
@@supersmokey1840 we don't have time to name our bud there's only one objective and that's feed the family and stop the poverty do you understand?
@@supersmokey1840 a cannabis activist in his early thirties has no other choice but to follow suit everything's becoming legal on my future plans are shut down until further legalization here in Arizona
Looks like sum geno typing is needed to keep our stains Ours BCHeritages wow patenting weed is a real deal craftcannibusconisiour
Your seed prices are to high, free the weed.
I'm still waiting for you Grover's to learn how to do tissue-culture instead of stupid clones
I as well, seems like nobody wants the cat outa the bag just yet
What the hell is tissue culture? I dont feel like googling...😵
Ok googled that shaeit...its almost like saying cloning but with more scientific differentiation
I don't know !
LEGALIZE ARIZONA
Lmao Humboldt seeds says he's cool with patent a clone but I bet everything he used he got for free now money is to be made hes cool with it lmao
Annuithus panneltleus Amazon panlet
Cookies is quality trash, end of story.
Is it good yea, but it dont get you high only good cookies is sunset sherbet and it's a sherbinski strain so there's that
can we not start with this patent bs is a plant how the fuck can you patent a plant.
I lobe the way that guy in the black hat thinks about what makes him happy about his farming process. I would love to do time on his farm and learn some of what he knows so I could use that knowledge in my own small medical grow and share that knowledge with others like me. We are limited to 5 plants over 5 inches. That limit makes a learning mistake into an unmedicated patient and that doesn't help. I feel like we need an education program and grow gear specifically aimed at medical home growers and a seed/clone program sponsored by and controlled by the state for medical patients only. They are allowing for craft grow licensing as an income stream but as patients we are limited to grow less canopy than we are allowed to purchase in dry form so it forces us into unequal economy against growing your own. I mean I put in 2 seeds and got wow mothers but can I clone n flower everything below 5 inches so I have failure space? No I cant and 3 big plants are more apt to get sick or weak and cost my crop. We need method applied to figure out the how to of good farming under the 5 plant limit.
You have to have a “do it yourself” attitude to move foreword in your cannabis pathway . We all learned mostly from forums and reading and practice. You have to be willing to take the risk of failing and losing a plant or two. If that’s the worst that happens, then why bitch? How about learning and risking losing a crop due to beginner mistakes, all the while risking decades in prison for said small grow? We risked getting busted and taught ourselves. You don’t need government funded education plans to teach you to grow. Get out there and try.... make some mistakes . It’s good for you.
The guy in the green shirt is just making shit up
This is hard to watch. I cant even explain why. patent og kush? Then just breed an ogkush 2.0 its not rocket science it plant science.
Legalize germany.
HSO needs to do some of his own homework. Phylos supporter.
How can a white man from cali pattent a strain . .r u going to give the people afghan...or nepal....or jamaica i just named 90%of your genepool
Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. Exodus 20 7 KJV
Come out with a 40 % thc ,pure indica strain ,then id be impressed ,& happy