HOW is Tivit, Seller of Secrets tearing up cEDH tournaments??

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @gtoast_99
    @gtoast_99 Год назад +177

    "...proving that a 6 mana commander can be competitive..."
    Godo: Am I a joke to you?

    • @CommanderMechanic
      @CommanderMechanic  Год назад +35

      yes

    • @RobMedellin
      @RobMedellin Год назад +13

      Both make good points. Godo really does see play, but yeah Godo is a bit of a joke. A cEDH player has to laugh when sees someone pulls out Godo to the table.

    • @gtoast_99
      @gtoast_99 Год назад

      Nah, GBW still gets the job done ;)

    • @RobMedellin
      @RobMedellin Год назад +7

      @@gtoast_99 some years ago his winrate at cedh was around 25% so he saw play, but today he wouldn't win 20% of the time. Other decks have too much answers and/or are faster.
      Godo is funny because he just makes the bar of being in cEDH and just barely and he is cheap to build around, like the cheapest maybe

    • @gtoast_99
      @gtoast_99 Год назад

      @@RobMedellin I win plenty so *shrug*. You can't just jam it, you have to know how to play. But it does just fine.

  • @jonathonskogman8337
    @jonathonskogman8337 Год назад +34

    I am a gitrog player, and legit I was struggling to keep up with the meta until orcish bowmasters dropped and also I added a backup 2 card wincon which most gitrog pilots won't even consider.

    • @Ashes_to_Ashes200
      @Ashes_to_Ashes200 Год назад +2

      Two card wincon in Golgari? My my I wonder what it could be

    • @karl-erikvik3400
      @karl-erikvik3400 Год назад

      ​@@Ashes_to_Ashes200Pls, I need answers!

    • @Ashes_to_Ashes200
      @Ashes_to_Ashes200 Год назад

      @@karl-erikvik3400 Witherbloom Apprentice and Chain of Smog

    • @Qutiepaan
      @Qutiepaan 2 месяца назад

      @@karl-erikvik3400chain of smog / Witherbloom apprentice?

  • @troit1550
    @troit1550 Год назад +21

    Niv mizzet isn't happy with the 6 mana diss

    • @SCP2264-5
      @SCP2264-5 Год назад +2

      Guess he’ll really be mad with his 10% play rate

    • @troit1550
      @troit1550 Год назад +3

      @@SCP2264-5 all things considered thats nowhere near bad

  • @bobnewheart1307
    @bobnewheart1307 Год назад +10

    You said attack when the card says deal damage, those are very different things in this game

    • @dennisjameson6492
      @dennisjameson6492 Год назад

      Esper colors and tivit being the only creature that matters equals board wipe tribal backed by counter magic. Tivit connects when hes sideways.

    • @bobnewheart1307
      @bobnewheart1307 Год назад +1

      @dennisjameson6492 the card says when it does combat damage to a player, so it turning sideways doesn't mean you get the trigger for allot of reasons. The creature can be blocked by a creature, no trigger. The damage can be prevented, resulting in no trigger. The creature can be removed from combat in a various amount of ways before the damage step, resulting in no trigger. And to be petty, they could be given vigilance so they would never turn sideways.
      However; things can secure your trigger like menace, trample, protection from appropriate cards(creatures in general or appropriate colors) flying, horsemanship, fear, intimate and so on.
      Extra triggers can be gained in one turn with double strike as it is two separate instants of damage or if you can pull it off, extra combats
      P.s. this game is complicated af and really specific and literal

    • @uglyaniimals
      @uglyaniimals 9 месяцев назад

      🤓

    • @BENGILOUIS-k1t
      @BENGILOUIS-k1t 7 месяцев назад

      @@bobnewheart1307it’s still a good card even though he got the wording wrong and if you don’t think so the you have no place in this argument

  • @wingdinggaster6737
    @wingdinggaster6737 Год назад +12

    Note: after you kill a player, you need an extra artifact per turn to keep this running, as you will only produce 4 tokens

    • @CommanderMechanic
      @CommanderMechanic  Год назад +6

      you'll have 5 extra from the ETB, enough to get you there

    • @wingdinggaster6737
      @wingdinggaster6737 Год назад +3

      @@CommanderMechanic you’ll be using them immediately, since it doesnt have haste, and since they can very clearly see you have tivit in your command zone, they’ll keep some removal ready the instant you get enough mana to start the combo, so you’ll need to start the combo the instant tivit hits the field

    • @macmusial3644
      @macmusial3644 Год назад +4

      ​@@CommanderMechanicYou definitely can't count on the first turn's tokens because you need those to immediately take an extra turn instead of hoping both Tivit and the Sieve stick around for a whole cycle.
      It doesn't really matter, since you only need to sacrifice two extra artifacts plus the Time Sieve itself to kill everyone if you attack correctly, and you have a dozen draw steps to find them if you don't already have any mana rocks or hate pieces sitting around, but you're almost never counting on only the tokens from Tivit's vote to get you all the way.

    • @exiledhero3791
      @exiledhero3791 Год назад

      @@wingdinggaster6737or run grand abolisher, but that’s from a high powered, but not cEDH perspective.

    • @ianross9475
      @ianross9475 Год назад +2

      Academy Manufacturer solves that problem 😂

  • @DogsandDragons
    @DogsandDragons Год назад +7

    Muldroga. My favorite MTG RUclipsr fears her.

  • @Darwingreen5
    @Darwingreen5 Год назад +8

    yeah, he's pretty brutal in normal edh too. Like, my manabase is too slow for CEDH, but it is nice to have a deck for spicy tables finally.

  • @ethandagenais5652
    @ethandagenais5652 Год назад +2

    I would love to see a spotlight on my boy grist, its definitly the best hulk commander in my experiance playing hulk by how consistant natural order lines are in the deck.

  • @Delarissa
    @Delarissa Год назад +1

    I'd love if my Locust God Deck could bust through the hump with the Sage of the Falls Combo that is tutorable with Imperial Recruiter but it just doesn't seem to get there most of the time as straight UR can't really compete without Niv-Mizzet's in built draw engine.

  • @gaze2156
    @gaze2156 Год назад +2

    With how prevalent Tivit and other token strategies are, it's probably worth it to maindeck a couple of token-hosing cards like Leyline of Singularity.

  • @FlowBerni
    @FlowBerni Год назад +15

    I wann see Etali primal conquerer :D

  • @kamilwhaley-kalaora4839
    @kamilwhaley-kalaora4839 Год назад +1

    I would LOVE liesa shroud of dusk to see Cedh play. I have a high power version of the deck and as a joke decided to play her against my friends Cedh decks and I won, decided to do it again later on and also won again. I think she functions sort of like a rule of law in the command zone. Sure you can cast spells, but if someone stops you and you aren’t able to win right away then you’re so burnt out from liesas ability that it’s easy to just die from her 5/5 body. Not to mention she combats a big issue with high cost commanders that is an even higher commander tax when killed. Liesa just says nah I’ll pay a couple life and she will come right back out. It’s very much a win right now or else when playing against her because she’s hard to keep off the board and will subtly drain you more than you realize

    • @BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh
      @BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh Месяц назад

      You’d wanna go hard stax but it’s just not good enough really. I don’t think there is an Orzhov commander that’s good enough. Because.. Tymna? You’d just be better off with Tymna and then you get an entire other card in the CZ and at min 1 more color but possibly two. They’d have to make a very broken commander for their to be a legit Orzhov cedh deck.. sadly

    • @kamilwhaley-kalaora4839
      @kamilwhaley-kalaora4839 Месяц назад +1

      @@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh I think Liesa stax can function as a Cedh deck, but I definitely agree that it isn't going to win many tournaments. I still win Cedh games with it from time to time but yeah Orzhov is a pretty bad colour combo and no card draw in the command zone is rough. Still a very fun deck to play though :)

  • @japplek
    @japplek Год назад +3

    Is this how baleful strix becomes a cedh staple?

  • @Lokigrim13
    @Lokigrim13 4 месяца назад

    I actually did this combo with my tivit deck my friends were shocked and all conceded

  • @witchivy5905
    @witchivy5905 Год назад +1

    Id love to see Uuna; Blue black Farie mill exile queen ,💙🖤💙🖤💙🖤💙🖤💙🖤💙

    • @rennac3152
      @rennac3152 Год назад +2

      💀💧💀💧💀💧💀💧

  • @mintifur
    @mintifur Год назад

    My boy Nev and his destruction disk ❤

  • @DragonMan5643
    @DragonMan5643 Год назад

    My personal favorite is Tatyova, Benthic Druid. [Landfall -- draw a card gain 1 life] is an absolute scam when it comes to card draw, considering most people are *paying* one mana to get one card. It's literally the perfect fusion of green and blue, and I love it. It's five mana, but you're playing green so it might as well be free.
    She also pairs really well with Cultivator Colossus and Azusa, Lost but Seeking. Colossus for a very explosive, game-winning turn and Azusa for more reliable 3 landfall trigger turns.

  • @TheFallenA
    @TheFallenA Год назад +3

    Krrirk is laughing

  • @timmiegray7212
    @timmiegray7212 Год назад +1

    It's not on attack it's a deal combat trigger.

  • @subpump2823
    @subpump2823 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm taking pantlaziah out atm trying to push him.

    • @CommanderMechanic
      @CommanderMechanic  3 месяца назад +1

      I support this endeavor

    • @subpump2823
      @subpump2823 3 месяца назад +1

      @CommanderMechanic thank you. It's tough sitting down at the table and not having blue counter play or black draw.

  • @Playingwithproxies
    @Playingwithproxies Год назад +1

    It may “cost” 6 but your instantly giving yourself 2 treasure so it’s really a 4 cost

    • @pandoragoldspan7012
      @pandoragoldspan7012 Год назад +2

      you aren't spending those treasures on mana you're spending them on time sieve

  • @fernandodiaz9064
    @fernandodiaz9064 Год назад

    Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth!

  • @halvsketchy9293
    @halvsketchy9293 Год назад

    The thing i dont understand is how do they manage to resolve it? I have an optimized unesh build that wins most of the time (have yet to play it in a full cedh pod), a lot of fast artifact mana to get it out and all the usual free/nearly free counter spells, but it is relatively often countered. And when a 6 mana commander is countered, it hurts. Especially if you cracked jeweled lotus or tapped mana crypt for it

    • @CommanderMechanic
      @CommanderMechanic  Год назад +1

      most competitive decks don't run counterspells that hit creatures.

    • @halvsketchy9293
      @halvsketchy9293 Год назад

      @@CommanderMechanic well theres force of will and pact of negation

    • @halvsketchy9293
      @halvsketchy9293 Год назад

      And dovins vito at times

    • @iagomedeiros6580
      @iagomedeiros6580 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@halvsketchy9293too few of those Nagatoro. Also, if the Tivit player feels the sussy aura, he can wait for 1 more mana in order to counter the rare creature counter. It's not failproof, but consistent enough.

  • @mantis7starblossom210
    @mantis7starblossom210 Год назад +2

    Miirym sentinel wyrm

  • @T1nyFr0gg
    @T1nyFr0gg Год назад

    It's ability triggers on combat damage, not attacks

  • @nilsgebhardt876
    @nilsgebhardt876 Год назад +1

    First Sliver, only 5 Mana but all Colors

  • @garrettmartin4750
    @garrettmartin4750 Год назад

    It's not "attack" it's "deals combat damage."

  • @filipfrondelius3644
    @filipfrondelius3644 Год назад

    NIV MIZZET, PARUN 🙌

  • @failapusgaming2628
    @failapusgaming2628 Год назад +6

    I wanna see Gishath, Skytherix, and Progenitus

  • @spacewizardpip1111
    @spacewizardpip1111 Год назад +1

    This is nutty lmao

  • @BisyBackson365
    @BisyBackson365 Год назад +1

    Etali and atraxa

  • @jaymorris1390
    @jaymorris1390 Год назад

    Ovika for sure

  • @MadnessOpus
    @MadnessOpus Год назад

    Velomachus Lorehold

  • @boostedsurv1019
    @boostedsurv1019 Год назад +1

    Phylath

  • @sarge5431
    @sarge5431 Год назад +1

    Me playing jhoira

  • @loganfendt4197
    @loganfendt4197 Год назад

    Scarab god

  • @robyngwendolynshiloh5277
    @robyngwendolynshiloh5277 Год назад

    Ok, but when you remove a player, he's only making 4 now....

  • @JordanThomas-iq2kv
    @JordanThomas-iq2kv Год назад +1

    Gishath

  • @ReneTheRed
    @ReneTheRed Год назад

    Muldrotha

  • @Nex41354
    @Nex41354 Год назад +1

    Vilis. Nuff said.

  • @linkmastr
    @linkmastr Год назад

    Atraxa

  • @emiliorod6979
    @emiliorod6979 5 месяцев назад

    There’s no way this beats my Omnath deck.

  • @zacharyevans-spates9789
    @zacharyevans-spates9789 Год назад +1

    Myrriam

  • @douglasfoley2060
    @douglasfoley2060 5 месяцев назад +1

    There’s nothing competitive about CEDH. Everyone uses the same like 10 or 15 commanders, and the same dam instant win combos. It’s modern as a 100 card singleton format. Y’all want a real competitive CEDH format???…….ban all the key components to those stupid instant win combos. That’s real competition.

    • @CommanderMechanic
      @CommanderMechanic  5 месяцев назад +1

      I think you’re missing the fact there are legit for prizing competitions, which makes it competitive in the truest sense

    • @douglasfoley2060
      @douglasfoley2060 5 месяцев назад

      @@CommanderMechanic no it doesn’t, it makes it a rush to who can get to their instant win con first. That’s not a competition, that’s a race. You wanna race, go run a marathon. A true competitive battle is who can fight for their win the best.

  • @jcm3732
    @jcm3732 11 месяцев назад +1

    5 artifacts per turn??? Am i missing something here? If this is a 1v1 game, wouldn't his ETB or damage trigger only generate 3 artifacts?

    • @CommanderMechanic
      @CommanderMechanic  11 месяцев назад

      This is not a 1v1 game it is 4-player

    • @jcm3732
      @jcm3732 11 месяцев назад

      Ahh, my mistake. My group only plays commander and has for so long I completely forgot it was specifically a multiplayer format. We play 1v1 commander games all the time. Lots of fun. @@CommanderMechanic

  • @dominickdavila1836
    @dominickdavila1836 Год назад

    Just to let you know, the word is pronounced “Siv” as in Time Siv not “seeve”

    • @dominickdavila1836
      @dominickdavila1836 Год назад

      @@jamesmackes4531 Im pretty positive they are not, this isnt a tomAto tomotto type deal, the word is Siv.

    • @dominickdavila1836
      @dominickdavila1836 Год назад

      @@jamesmackes4531 no one is “acting smarter”, someone is trying to help someone else not look like they dont know how to say a word correctly. Just because we would all know someone thinks they are saying an item cant burn, but they say non-flammable, wouldnt make it ok to say and we should let them know… same situation

    • @dominickdavila1836
      @dominickdavila1836 Год назад

      @@jamesmackes4531 non-flammable things still burn, they just dont ignite. You would tell someone under the impression that they have something that wont burn that they are wrong before they lose something important.