Signs that You Are a Back-up Candidate - How to Know When You Are a Back-up Candidate
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- In today's video, we cover signs that you are a back-up candidate.It can be hard to know when up are a back-up candidate, but I can tell you that there are absolutely signs. In today's video, we will spend some time identifying those signs so that you have a better idea of where you stand and what your chances are of being hired.
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Hey Ben! Just wanted to thank you for your videos - they have really helped me view things from the perspective of the recruiter.
After going a few months with no luck I was finally offered a dream position in the sports media industry! Keep putting out great content, your channel deserves more love.
That’s amazing! Congrats Cole, I am very happy for you!!!
I feel like companies should start paying their candidates for their time. This would hold more companies accountable for process bloat, ghosting and leading candidates on.
Some do for assignments.
Maybe would be the case if people weren’t so desperate (in most fields)
Facts
100%
I agree th😅en our time won’t be wasted. And they will quit playing games with us
Ironically I was a backup candidate, but I only found out 1-2 months later my last interview with them. Basically, the guy they actually hired took another job after accepting with the company. I thought they ghosted me and I told the recruiter I thought you guys didn’t even consider me and then he let me know the situation. Sufficed to say, I stayed with them for 10.5 yrs and it was great there.
I have been in a similar situation around 8-9 times (final round, HR keeps you warms but I knew something was not right when they could not give me an answer even after 7-10 days as they are working on confirming the other candidates / doing background checks). Never once did I get the role. OP was very lucky because from my experience it very rarely happens.
This video is on point!
Thank you!
One time they kept me waited weeks for the decision, obviously not enthused at all!
Man, that’s so inconsiderate. I hate when that happens.
Agree to every word!
Hey Ben, thank you for the video. If the company told you after your interview that they want to interview other candidates (basically stringing you along). And eventually they give you an offer. Don't you feel like you were not their first preference? Would you accept their offer?
"We are interviewing other candidates and will be in contact" - is this always a bad response?
Not always, it could just be the truth
@@BenTalksTalent thank you Ben!
@@nadinesteinberg9891 you are very welcome!
Hi ben they kept my interview goin for 1hr 45 minutes...however i dont think they were very much interested..they seemed to be annoyed by my answers..but.when the interview was dont HR said "let me esplejn to you our benefits" and said if im successfull they will be in touch.
I've been asking for compensation for my time and travel! If they say "NO", then I won't attend their interviews! We have to take control of our time and careers, ladies and gentlemen! Don't let hiring managers and recruiters waste your time, energy and effort!
Thanks for this content, i went through a series of interview and at the last stage, the hr told me that i would be sent an offer and i would either accept or reject the offer and after i month i called to follow up and the hr said that a final decision has not been taken yet regarding the vacancy, that is why i haven't received a feedback yet. One will be provided as soon as a final decision has been reached. i want to ask if i would still be given the offer. or should i forget about the application and move on
Hello Ben, I have interviewed twice for this dream job and they had all the green flags indicating I'm the primary candidate. But they are taking more time than announced. I exchanged with the headhunter and he said that they really loved my interview but are having a hard time deciding between me and another candidate and are wishing to come to a conclusion within the week after an internal meeting. I offered to send in references if needed, no answer since then. What do you think of the situation ?
Ps : thanks for your video!!
Thanks for the video. Q: I exchanged a couple emails and calls with a recruiter 4 months ago. He was clearly overwhelmed and followed up 60 days later saying they wanted an advanced degree. I thanked him and moved on. He is emailing and calling again saying he changed the job description requirements.. any thoughts/experience? I have to wonder if the candidate they chose didn't work out and/or the company is a bit flaky.
Honestly, if you still have interest, I’d pursue it. What do you have to lose?
This happened like 15 years ago. I was interviewing for a middle management role with this "Entrepreneurship" organization. Made me go through 6...YES 6 rounds. In the 4th round I made several mistakes and expected to be removed but surprisingly I moved ahead. I asked the HR and she told me there was only 1 other candidate that was "more favored" at this point so I still had a chance. It was only at the very end (of Round 6) when I got eliminated that the HR told me that the other candidate was way too good of a fit and got the role. Turned out they had 3 candidates only moving through the process and couldn't eliminate me from round 3 onwards. She said that they had wanted to eliminate me on round 4 but needed "choices" for senior management in future rounds. The hiring manager contacted me after HR did and I confronted her with what HR said. She admitted it and apologized. I later found out HR got scolded for saying things she should not have.
I so agree with everything that you mentioned. I was recently told by a recruiter that they are pausing my application for now (after 2 rounds of interview) and that they want to be in touch on a monthly basis to assess their hiring needs and my job search status. Is this common too and do they actually mean it?
It is quite common - BS usually said to back up candidates. It is mainly done to see if they can string you along.
@@zak7578 good to know this! Atleast, it helps one to not build hopes :/
This happened to me at my last job, I wasn’t their first choice but I guess I was “next on the list” in case something happened. at my last job, the interview went really well and it ended up being a casual conversation, however they hired someone with more experience. but then about a couple weeks later they contacted me and asked if I was still looking for work, which I was at the time. They said the person they hired before me only came for o couple days and didn’t show up after that (the person probably found something else and didn’t give notice) and they offered me the job. Although, I’d rather be a company’s first choice, I still needed a job so I accepted it.
How about you interviewed & and I thought it went well & even got a reply to a thank you letter & then 1 week later... instead of an offer you get a phone call from the recruiter saying you are still in contention but due to the heavy competition of this role, expect an answer from us next week ? Is that a good or bad sign ?
I like interviewing the company and hiring manager, more than they end up interviewing me!
I view it that way as well
Can a company offer to give career advice after failing an interview.
What does it mean when they offer to book you in 30 mins of their time and give you career advice ,a week later after an unsuccsesful interview
Hi ben i was interviewed and told my response is good and asked me to leave. But hr is telling all positions filled. You may be backup candidate what does it mean
My recruiter said I wasn’t qualified for my job even tho I have the experience and people to back up my experience she continued to say I wasn’t qualified and that but I asked what makes me not qualified they said because I bounced companies and that I didn’t have enough time to understand my job but I was with one company for three and a half years and another for a few months then I moved back home and was the reason why I was looking for the job and I under stood my job and was proficient at what I do
She continued to mock my resume and said that me working at a store after high school made me a bad candidate and told me that I didn’t have the years but if she actually read my resume it has my start and finish dates
She sounds terrible. 3.5 years is not bouncing around unless your standards are absurd. There are a lot of bad recruiters out there. I am sorry you experienced that my friend.
@@BenTalksTalent that’s what I told her and then I politely ended the interview
@@rideordiesquad7700 good for you
How long should we reach out to recruiter once they told you that they are still interviewing others and might take a couple of time?
Thanks Ben
I usually say a week is reasonable. And just make sure the follow up is polite. Good luck Landsy!
@@BenTalksTalent thank you ben!!
@@s3sco2002 you are welcome!
I just had an interview. It went great and the recruiter just reached out to me and said that the VP enjoyed our conversation. The response I got was “we’re still in the interviewing process” this is in the later stages of the interview.
@@ReceptiveKing93 what happened
I played myself down, I shouldn't have done that.
Let's see what happens after I essentially not care anymore bet they'll change their minds 😂
‘Back up candidate’…. Seems what you really mean is that the comparison person is often just there to be sh*t on so some people can feel big
I really don’t feel that is the case at all. Some back up candidates are viewed by the hiring team as just as good and if their first choice declines, they will extend an offer. It depends on perspective, but I don’t view it negatively.
Hi Ben,
1 stage interview went very well(Friday) (walk around the factory and introduced to general manager and other office staff) on the end on the interview hiring manager asked for availability for early next week and said will contact me Friday by 8pm or Monday morning. I send follow up email straight after the interview and provided my availability. On Monday afternoon time i received an email saying" Hope you are well; it was great to meet you and happy to hear you enjoyed coming to our site.
There may be a slight delay in the second interview, but I would like you to come in for it. What is your availability end of next week please?" So basically the 2 stage is delay for almost 1.5 week. Then i received another email "I will check for you internally and come back to you asap to get this scheduled" does it look like I'm backup candidate?
Really hard to tell by that, not necessarily. Either way, you are still in the game my friend!
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Thanks Ben, I watched a few videos regarding good sign and backup sign. Really hard to take out of my mind. Just find out thath hiring manager collected the keys for new home(Tuesday) I hope this was a reason for delay 🤣
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Hi Ben,
I had a second interview yesterday which went very well. The hiring manager apologised for the delay as she was on annual leave. The interview took 1.5h and had a great chat with GM and the hiring manager. They will decide within 2 weeks. 🤞
You videos helped me a lot! Thank you
Hi Ben love your videos, Ive seen must be about 20. I interviewed 2 weeks ago and got emailed the day after that my application would no longer be pursued. Interviewed again last week: same council different position. the interview had to end to be in time for the next person's timeslot (which i know is true) but they gave me an email to send remaining questions to. I sent that email, that got no response, that email address is the main hr email address too. Also been 9 days and havent heard about my application at all. Any idea whats going on? I thought the interview went well.
First of all, I love your name, had me cracking up. And thank you for the kind words! As far as the company, it sounds to me like they are a bit of a mess with their process. Proper scheduling would have helped with the timing issues, having people fill out their answers isn’t a hiring best practice and then finally, 9 days with no response is irresponsible and a bit rude. How many open roles are there? Is it just the two? How did the interview go also from your perspective?
@@BenTalksTalent thanks very much about the name im glad you like it ^^ Its the county council not a company, so i expected they'd be more respectable. One of the interviewers was the same from the first interview so it was easy for me to tell the difference in how it was going, I thought they were very keen throughout almost helping me answer the questions. After the first (failed) interview I emailed for feedback to help with this second interview, I said how disappointed I was etc- A part of me hopes they're trying to make me think i failed again, to disappoint me again so Im for sure to take the incoming offer, but this is wishful thinking. That email afterwards that I mentioned were my own questions for them, that we ran out of time for. They maybe didnt like my questions, who knows, but im for sure less keen on the position after this. if you have any more ideas what could be happening id love to know
I don’t blame you, it sounds frustrating. It’s hard to know from the outside in but it feels like maybe they are just taking a long time and do a poor job communicating to candidates.
@@BenTalksTalent thanks Ben I'm gonna hold out, as long as its not a no I will hope. Do you like gaming? I wish you'd stream on twitch :)
I play chess (very mediocrely lol) and clash of clans.
Back up-- back up of back up -- back up of back up of back up 😅
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I recently entered the job market after an early retirement from a fortune 50 company. WOW! I had no idea the level of UTTER BS I would need to endure to get another career. Between the ATS system and HR people who should not be in the business of choosing candidates, businesses are MISSING OUT on very real TALENT and only getting people who can play the hiring game. Very sad!
I don't accept being the back-up candidate, ever!! I will turn down any and all companies that want me as a Silver, Bronze and or No Medal 4th or 5th Candidate!
I think I might for certain companies lol
Hey Ben, if the Director of IT replies back to my thank you email pretty instantly (and late at night) does that mean I’m the primary candidate and/or should expect a job offer?
I’d say it’s likely positive. But they could also just be really polite. If it was a great interview and this, I’d say it’s like a very good sign. So many factors though you know.
Hey Ben,
I got a immediate response from my thank you email stating below
Thank you for your email.
It was great to meet you yesterday at your interview.
We will be in touch with information on the next steps in the process.
Is this a good sign
Thank u
I’d think so! Good luck!
@@BenTalksTalent I will keep u posted thank u