I would love to do this all day. Imagine on the days when the juices are really flowing and it's a subject you have a real interest in. Gosh, one day!! Love this channel!
I'm finding these longer videos invaluable. Both as reassurance that ok, I'm not a noob taking this long refining everything, but also learning a lot from how you break down your thought process with lighting. It's also interesting to see how you can create different images that are lit differently but still fit your style (if that makes sense!) Question: how often do you use the modelling lights and live view to refine the lighting? I noticed a lot of photographers tend not to do this and instead just adjust then fire (without modelling lights on) Thanks so much
I am CGI artist. I specifically subscribed to your channel to learn about the light. This will help me tremendously on how to light my 3D render products up. Thanks!
You're an amazing photographer! I have infinite respect for your methodical process as I'm the same way in my life. I just registered my trade name for my photography/videography business yesterday! And just a few short years ago I was living on the street going thru hell for a long time. I've come a long way and thanks to your channel I'll go much further!
I really like watching the process, it gives me confidence just by watching a pro do it. I think it's easy to second guess if I am doing my job professionally, so this really helps with that. 😅
THIS! I've learned so much from all of your videos, but it is SO helpful to see the process live, and really get a sense of the finessing and adjusting involved. So helpful! Thank you!
Now imagine doing this on 5x4” film and making it picture-perfect in-camera as we did before digital and Photoshop :-) For starters the wire would have to come THROUGH the background to stay out of the frame. But a wire would cast a shadow, so we’d use a clear PVC rod instead. And of course each (Polaroid) test shot would be something like 25 quid in today’s money, so we’d get much closer to the right exposure before tripping the shutter, and most of the light balancing would be done on the ground glass, eyeballing the modelling lights. Funnily enough, I’d probably have used a 100 mm lens for this shot.
The same thought was going through my mind. Only we had full processing and printing in house. So as you said light meter everything before test print contact print run down slight adjustments final shot. A full mornings work. For those that don’t shoot commercial work please remember he does this daily so when he sees a hot spot and moves the light say a foot and up 18 inches. This is experience of knowing how much light he has lost with that amount of movement. So if this is your first time or are inexperienced pleas add another hour or two on too this time. 🤣 I miss my 40 year career so much I’m watching these utube videos and enjoying them. With the missus tutting haven’t you had enough of work. But I do miss not having a camera in my hand. And if I closed my eyes I can still smell the chemicals. Great life.
@@garygalt4146 Yes, there was a whiff of magic about analogue photography which was addictive 🙂 That said, I find digital better in most respects, plus easier, faster, cheaper. Just not magical in the same way.
Thank you both. Really interesting to read your comments. I only did a bit of studio work in college during my graphic design HND (in the 80s). I am only now appreciating how lucky we were to have a medium format camera and the studio set up and a great tutor. We shot in black and white and processed and developed our own images. We graphic design students shot the work of the fashion students with the tallest of those among us doing the modelling. So although we didn't do product shots we did have an understanding of what went into it. I don't think the general public does!
Loved this video very much. It’s great to hear you talk through what your vision is, versus what technically happens to achieve that vision…. Wonderful 👍
Is saturation on the background primarily achieved through getting the light out of the angle of incidence? Meaning the more off to the side it is and not reflecting directly into the camera, the more saturated it will be? I'm curious what other aspect may affect saturation.
Hei Scott! Instead of focus stack wouldn't be easier stand back and crop? Are you concern of loosing resolution or is it another kind of problem? Thanks man
Here in the U.S., 75% of all advertising dollars is spent by pharmaceutical companies. And ya, they show pills. It’s awful. Very glad to hear that isn’t allowed in the UK. I too use tennis balls on my cstands…lol I’m also glad to see a fresh “hands on” tutorial from you.
I want to know more about your lens setup, who makes it, how was it adapted to GFX, where can I find one, how much etc? Love your videos keep them coming, Cheers!
Very cool video, I can't say I've seen much RUclips content exactly like this before. It'd be interesting to me to see the equivalent of this in a street photography sense where there are loads more uncontrolled variables in the scene that (speaking from my own experience photographing stuff), you kinda just have to work around. Not sure if that's up your alley or not though since you seem to photo more on foods or items on a set like here in this video.
how many photos do you estimate you burn through before nailing your image? seems like at least a hundred/minimum to dial it in just right... does that seem atypical? more less on a good day? what might cause an image to be easy or hard to dial in?
Question, you are using the camera screen to get focus/ composition etc and then take a photo without flash and obviously get a black image, on my fuji in order for me to see whats going on I have to raise the iso and/or f stop to sort out focus and composition and then revert the camera back to 100iso f16 to take the shot for a exposure with flash, I am probably missing something rather simple but I hope there is a way of keeping the camera on the desired settings but have the camera screen display the image at viewable brightness so I can see whats going on. using fuji crop sensor tethered to LR
You weren't holding the little mirror at a good angle to reflect back on the pill. Holding the mirror flat parallel to the table made the red light bounce towards the other side of the pill, away from the red gel. Lean the mirror towards the red gel, it would reflect straight up towards the pill.
since you ask all the time... I want to see your photography "Junk Drawer". I figure we all have one... with the lil ring adapters we never use, old triggers, tech of old, that sort of thing. In my studio we have what we fondly call the "box of legos" it contains lots of lil screws, feet for tripods, old pan heads and the like.... please show me a tour of your legos?
I would have never imagined it would take all that gear and set up to take a photo of a pill! You even needed a glue gun. Amazing! I also noticed your clock isn't running 😃
@@TinHouseStudioUK All in all i loved the walkthrough. it really gives me a good idea as to what i should be doing more of and less of. I do not plan on doing stills very much, other than maybe for fun. However i think a lot of this bleeds over into other genres nicely.
The clickbait-y titles won‘t age too well, but the actual video itself is wonderful! Not much more to add than that, so consider this just a comment for the algorithm (a saying that won‘t age well, either, haha). Thank you ❤
Your bounce didn't work because you had a tight grid on your key light. It's one or the other, either a tightly gridded contrasty shot, or enough spread to catch a bounce card. I think I would have just gelled the key, to get a fully colored version, then masked out the areas you did not want in red. Not to say it couldn't be done in one shot, but the amount of futzing with lights and flags and gels...why waste that time when you could do it faster in two shots?
If you like the longer, less jump cut and more info style of videos, they live over here www.patreon.com/tinhouse
this guy is saving the photography community, Bless this man
I would love to do this all day. Imagine on the days when the juices are really flowing and it's a subject you have a real interest in. Gosh, one day!! Love this channel!
I'm finding these longer videos invaluable. Both as reassurance that ok, I'm not a noob taking this long refining everything, but also learning a lot from how you break down your thought process with lighting.
It's also interesting to see how you can create different images that are lit differently but still fit your style (if that makes sense!)
Question: how often do you use the modelling lights and live view to refine the lighting? I noticed a lot of photographers tend not to do this and instead just adjust then fire (without modelling lights on)
Thanks so much
I am CGI artist. I specifically subscribed to your channel to learn about the light. This will help me tremendously on how to light my 3D render products up. Thanks!
You're an amazing photographer! I have infinite respect for your methodical process as I'm the same way in my life. I just registered my trade name for my photography/videography business yesterday! And just a few short years ago I was living on the street going thru hell for a long time. I've come a long way and thanks to your channel I'll go much further!
I hope you are on your way to doing well. 😊😊
I really like watching the process, it gives me confidence just by watching a pro do it. I think it's easy to second guess if I am doing my job professionally, so this really helps with that. 😅
THIS! I've learned so much from all of your videos, but it is SO helpful to see the process live, and really get a sense of the finessing and adjusting involved. So helpful! Thank you!
THanks for taking the time to watch.
That’s impressive. I’ll probably never do anything of this but it’s fun to get a peak behind the scenes of the process.
Thank you for taking the time to create this video. I find the process and your approach to solve each small challenge fascinating to watch.
Now imagine doing this on 5x4” film and making it picture-perfect in-camera as we did before digital and Photoshop :-) For starters the wire would have to come THROUGH the background to stay out of the frame. But a wire would cast a shadow, so we’d use a clear PVC rod instead. And of course each (Polaroid) test shot would be something like 25 quid in today’s money, so we’d get much closer to the right exposure before tripping the shutter, and most of the light balancing would be done on the ground glass, eyeballing the modelling lights. Funnily enough, I’d probably have used a 100 mm lens for this shot.
The same thought was going through my mind. Only we had full processing and printing in house. So as you said light meter everything before test print contact print run down slight adjustments final shot. A full mornings work. For those that don’t shoot commercial work please remember he does this daily so when he sees a hot spot and moves the light say a foot and up 18 inches. This is experience of knowing how much light he has lost with that amount of movement. So if this is your first time or are inexperienced pleas add another hour or two on too this time. 🤣 I miss my 40 year career so much I’m watching these utube videos and enjoying them. With the missus tutting haven’t you had enough of work. But I do miss not having a camera in my hand. And if I closed my eyes I can still smell the chemicals. Great life.
@@garygalt4146 Yes, there was a whiff of magic about analogue photography which was addictive 🙂 That said, I find digital better in most respects, plus easier, faster, cheaper. Just not magical in the same way.
Thank you both. Really interesting to read your comments. I only did a bit of studio work in college during my graphic design HND (in the 80s). I am only now appreciating how lucky we were to have a medium format camera and the studio set up and a great tutor. We shot in black and white and processed and developed our own images. We graphic design students shot the work of the fashion students with the tallest of those among us doing the modelling.
So although we didn't do product shots we did have an understanding of what went into it. I don't think the general public does!
Most pressing question is where did Shane get that dope as hell fleece?
Excellent. Very generous and super helpful. Waiting for the shots to load had me on the edge of my couch.
Loved this video very much. It’s great to hear you talk through what your vision is, versus what technically happens to achieve that vision…. Wonderful 👍
straight to the point at showing what matters, real gem of a guy you are for learners like me
Very interesting. As said before didn't realise so much work went into studio work for what you'd think was an outwardly simple shot. Thanks
I love how much trial and error there is. Obviously less than when I shoot. This has been really helpful.
really informative, great to see the process of creating your shots. thanks.
Love these styles of videos and how you try and correct every parameter until the picture is perfect. So many takeaways from this video.
I've learned tons from your business advice. Watching a mock up of your process has been enlightening. Thank you.
I love shane ! he is great
Really interesting, be great to see more vids like this one 👍🏻
great video, learning a lot about light here... even though i dont understand anything yet.
Great! Thank you very much.
Is saturation on the background primarily achieved through getting the light out of the angle of incidence? Meaning the more off to the side it is and not reflecting directly into the camera, the more saturated it will be? I'm curious what other aspect may affect saturation.
Another really useful video. Great to see what you want to achieve develop and how you achieve those results. Thanks.
Hei Scott! Instead of focus stack wouldn't be easier stand back and crop? Are you concern of loosing resolution or is it another kind of problem? Thanks man
Superb...been waiting for this!
Here in the U.S., 75% of all advertising dollars is spent by pharmaceutical companies. And ya, they show pills.
It’s awful.
Very glad to hear that isn’t allowed in the UK.
I too use tennis balls on my cstands…lol
I’m also glad to see a fresh “hands on” tutorial from you.
Where is that statistic from? I tried looking that up but can’t seem to find anything to back it up
I want to know more about your lens setup, who makes it, how was it adapted to GFX, where can I find one, how much etc? Love your videos keep them coming, Cheers!
Great video. I enjoy this very much. Thanks.
Very cool video, I can't say I've seen much RUclips content exactly like this before. It'd be interesting to me to see the equivalent of this in a street photography sense where there are loads more uncontrolled variables in the scene that (speaking from my own experience photographing stuff), you kinda just have to work around. Not sure if that's up your alley or not though since you seem to photo more on foods or items on a set like here in this video.
how many photos do you estimate you burn through before nailing your image? seems like at least a hundred/minimum to dial it in just right... does that seem atypical? more less on a good day? what might cause an image to be easy or hard to dial in?
Really varies, anywhere from 20 - 200 (if clients involved haha)
Love seeing your process.
I’m wondering why the image takes a while to show up in capture one when tethering?
Fascinating!
Is there a specific reason for tennis balls on the C-Stand arms?
eye protection
I'm sure you did a video on this or mentioned this earlier but what camera are using? Looks different from your usual canon 5dsr.
Its the 100 mega pixel fuji
Question, you are using the camera screen to get focus/ composition etc and then take a photo without flash and obviously get a black image, on my fuji in order for me to see whats going on I have to raise the iso and/or f stop to sort out focus and composition and then revert the camera back to 100iso f16 to take the shot for a exposure with flash, I am probably missing something rather simple but I hope there is a way of keeping the camera on the desired settings but have the camera screen display the image at viewable brightness so I can see whats going on. using fuji crop sensor tethered to LR
Hi @DavidHarperPhoto , the setting you want I think is PREVIEW EXP./WB IN MANUAL MODE = OFF in the Spanner menu which does just what you want
@@andygordon4691 You have just made my day, I have been struggling on for ages. I can't thank you enough!!!!
You weren't holding the little mirror at a good angle to reflect back on the pill.
Holding the mirror flat parallel to the table made the red light bounce towards the other side of the pill, away from the red gel.
Lean the mirror towards the red gel, it would reflect straight up towards the pill.
since you ask all the time... I want to see your photography "Junk Drawer". I figure we all have one... with the lil ring adapters we never use, old triggers, tech of old, that sort of thing. In my studio we have what we fondly call the "box of legos" it contains lots of lil screws, feet for tripods, old pan heads and the like.... please show me a tour of your legos?
I have an entier room of this, but its all going to make space for something else.
Even better... show it off before the revamp@@TinHouseStudioUK
instead of focus stacking, couldnt you just swing the cambo and get everything in a straight line in focus?
I would have never imagined it would take all that gear and set up to take a photo of a pill! You even needed a glue gun. Amazing! I also noticed your clock isn't running 😃
And this kids, is the difference between professional and not. A good watch but I myself realized I’ll never get to that level.
didn't realize this was live. nice!!
nevr mind. im dumb. lol
im not brave enough to go live live haha
@@TinHouseStudioUK All in all i loved the walkthrough. it really gives me a good idea as to what i should be doing more of and less of. I do not plan on doing stills very much, other than maybe for fun. However i think a lot of this bleeds over into other genres nicely.
stills yes. still life, no.
The clickbait-y titles won‘t age too well, but the actual video itself is wonderful! Not much more to add than that, so consider this just a comment for the algorithm (a saying that won‘t age well, either, haha). Thank you ❤
Your bounce didn't work because you had a tight grid on your key light. It's one or the other, either a tightly gridded contrasty shot, or enough spread to catch a bounce card. I think I would have just gelled the key, to get a fully colored version, then masked out the areas you did not want in red. Not to say it couldn't be done in one shot, but the amount of futzing with lights and flags and gels...why waste that time when you could do it faster in two shots?
THS: “You’re not allowed to show pills in adverts..”
US Marketing companies: “Hold my beer”
I wish more people understood the 10 minute thing. Not many can go long.
haha yeah. It use to be very different in the early days of youtube.
2:54 I like how the camera is pointed away to avoid showing unsafe activities.. 😂
I would probably use museum putty instead of hot glue for something like this that I might want to move.
First one
«TYPM - ThankYouPeterMcKinnon»? 😆
Loving your channel! As a professional photographer this is SO valuable to expand my technical horizons