As someone who hates how pushed UG as become in recent sets, seeing a mono black deck in the hands of the mono black master pulling off a super cool turn using their own cards against them was very cathartic!
Agree, it was a really well played turn! Had things panned out in a way where Jeremy would've just gotten to cast villainous wealth a million times, the game would've been as simple as "I play all the things I get off of wealth, then I get wealth back and do it all again". With Chainer, there were some delicate decisions to be made from Justin's side to ensure he'd position himself as well as possible. To me, this means that a Chainer strategy requires more of a sharp tactical mind from its pilot than a villainous wealth strategy. That said, I do not in any way intend to imply that I think Jeremy is untactical as a magic player, not at all! I see it as Jeremy enjoying villainous wealth as a card, nothing more :)
Nah, it wasn't solitaire. Solitaire is watching Jeremy playing Villainous Wealth. There were numerous tactical decisions involving sequencing and triggers, and it was great to see.
Yup, he's the best player by far, especially when playing mono black, which is why the others go after him so hard. I feel like their aggression is usually misdirected, though, as they don't seem to consider the board state very well and just attack Justin because he's Justin.
Just started this, and I am so hyped for the theme! Each deck feels like it matches its player. Justin gets to play mono black Chainer(!), Jeremy is Sultai, Jon with the underestimated Tatyova, and Stephen spinning the wheel with Wanderer. Fingers crossed this turns out good! Edit: this was a good game, some good back and forth, and I’m happy with how it ends. Mainly bc it’s one of my fav commanders that wins lol
I like it that way. Especially now that there is a red black one with a billion deck tech videos. Also, the broken card in chainer is always Mindslicer. Every time that thing hits a zone other than the library my play group goes "NOOOOOOO!"
Chainer is indeed extremely powerful (this episode is proof enough). I personally find K’rrik, Son of Yawgmoth to be my personal favorite mono black commander, but to each their own. Black is probably the most powerful color in magic, and there’s countless commander options that have the ability to be crazy amounts of good. Alongside Chainer and K’rrik, there’s Vito, Razaketh, Ob Nixilis Unshackled, Ayara, and Kokusho, to name a few.
I actually own 3 of these commanders and i did built a Chainer once (swap it out for Yawgmoth). Fun to see them in action against each other (totally different brews anyway).
Always grateful for the game, boys. Hope y'all are staying safe! I would've liked to see Mr. Suarez's deck play a bit more, but that was no fault of his own. #TeamGresuarell
I love seeing the best mono-black commander around smash a UGx table. Chainer is by far one of my favorite commanders to play, congrats on being the titan of titans
I can’t wait for in 15 seasons time they do titans of titans OF TITANS!! Btw really fun to watch the high level plays, especially Justin’s last turn really skill fully done!
I feel like the spirit of the 'kill everyone at once' point penalty is relevant here. Being circumventable by waiting for the next upkeep doesn't make it less of a combo win, or for better TV. Not sure if there's a clean way to reword the rule, but just take your -1 and get your +1 pride. Especially from being up by 4 plus first blood plus 3 points for this game.
I feel like these decks are the epitime of your playstyles/preferences. Jeremy is working his Rube Goldberg machine. Stephan is doing big stompy stuff. Jon is going to value town. And Justin, sweet sweet Justin, you have a good deck but your too nice to take the final blow too often. Always love the episodes, at least 1 person doesn't skip the credits.
I haven't sensed that much salt from the cast yet tbh; at around 51:20, Jeremy definitely was salty/sad about people ruining his fun with his villainous wealth deck :P
Just a bit of a misplay, Justin exiled the Corpse Connoisseur early. Unearth exiles it at end of turn, he could have used it with Nyxbloom Ancient and Phyrexian Altar to get another reanimate. Unless he sacced it for one of the black mana and I just missed it? Just an edit because I'm an idiot. I didn't know Nyxbloom required you to tap the permanent. Never mind.
So lets try to do the actual math on getting to the next Titans of Titans episode. The plus side is each initial "Titans" episode already has lots of candidates from previous videos so if they do 1 a season, 4 Seasons will nominate each Titans of Titans candidate to be played (provided they do a Titans of Titans in the same Season that they nominate the last Titan). So 16 seasons for the Next Titans of Titans episode and then you'll need to do that 16 season cycle 3 times in order to get 4 decks to compete against each other so see Chainer in 48 seasons as it defends its title.
Umm, at around 1:09:40'ish how did Justin play a second swamp out of the graveyard? That would have been his 3rd land and he only had the one Oracle at that point. He played Lake of The Dead from the graveyard, then a swamp from the graveyard when get got the Oracle, even saying his second land for the turn.
He initially got the Seedborn Muse out with Chainer, but then decided to get the Spark Double instead to copy Oracle. That allowed him to play a third land, which he then used to get the Seedborn Muse out with Chainer. They just did a little back tracking.
A well deserved win for Justin. I don't mind someone winning with an inf combo, so long as it's not something like a non interactive 1 or two card combo. The other guys had plenty of chances to stop him from assembling the pieces. I however, can never support Justin simply because he is a Packers fan.
15 years from now we're gonna be watching this same game in Titans of titans of Titans except it's gonna be different decks played by Jeremy, Stephen, and Jon
So I got bored and I went through to see who's won the most points overall in this series and who has the most season championships. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tfF5zlbE-aOW_PohB-8PGysXFpvt2GxNoeVLuMaM6Ok/edit?usp=sharing the document currently isn't updated for this episode haven't started watching it yet. I also don't know if this exists anywhere already.
I tried to access it and it says you need permission (which I requested). I’ve always wanted to know this breakdown but never had the time to do it myself.
I don't like that because most tribal lords don't do anything interesting so the odds are pretty high that three of them spin into something that gives +1+1 keyword.
Maybe they should just have a champions season. Like the first 4 episodes are previous champions, ranharmonicon x2, champion of champions and then viewer submitted. Wait, there should probably be a new set commander game in there too.
I wanted to badly for Steven to plus tezzeret on his first maelstrom turn to just dump a ton of mana into the kessig wolf run so he could swing at everyone with a huge oracle
He only tapped one swamp and coffers on Jon's upkeep for 18 black only needed 5 activations to kill Jon and Jeremy so thats 15, and the 1 for entomb. On Green's upkeep, he taps a swamp for one black, sacs with Lake of the dead to get 4 black (5 total) brings back Merchant for 3 black, leaving 2 black left, sacs it for 1 black with phyrexian alter, giving 3 for the last activation.
The best apart about this season for me is the fact that people complained about Justin getting picked on last season when he tried to do exactly what he did in this video. You gotta respect the graveyard decks. Sure it can feel bad sometimes because when you shut them out they don't really get to look like the do much but the alternative is silly nonsense like this.
soooo: by using the sepulchral primordial trigger justin could have won on the spot. 1st: get deadeye navigator and 2 other creatures, soulbond with primordial. Activate Primordial, in response sac deadeye and the other creature you got. Now you have infinite mana, with gary you have all swamps out of your deck and with riku you can make infinite tokens. But instead he takes oracle. :(
Well, gonna say the exact same thing I said on 3 episodes last season. Please do not play decks that has villainous wealth effects while you are not in the studio. It just becomes one giant mess on the boards, that isn't fun to watch. Thankfully it ended straight after Justin started taking stuff and we never saw any of the steal cards from Jeremy, but I don't believe people would have been upset if you sat on this episode until you could go back to the studio. Taking one card from what is out on the battlefield is fine, ergo Treachery, In Bolas' Clutches, stuff like that, but as soon as you start going in to peoples graveyards/deck for multiple cards, a big mess where people forget what is what unless you are Jeremy who prepared those blank cards for writing on, but that, which last season proves, is also just a mess.
Okay I am only in the intro and I am already terribly disappointed. When I was researching my Krenko, Mob Boss deck I watch Jonathan Suarez absolutely destroy with that deck. Did I miss an episode where the deck lost?
@ProxyTheGOAT Ah thanks for the clarification. Okay John lets do it. Goblins got some great new tools. It is time to rock out the Krenko actions again!
Well if the other 3 decks were built and played correctly there is no way chainer would have won. However, that doesn't make for a great play experience.
Justin could've won on the stop at 1:06:59 right? He grabs Deadeye Navigator and paired with the Primordial. Then sac a creature for triple Blue, flicker the Primordial, get 3 more creatures, sac them for 9 blue and flicker the Primordial an infinite amount of times... but I guess they don't like Infinite combos.
RE: Decree of Pain regardless of the rules change, decree of pain says "destroyed this way", so it would have counted commanders to draw cards before the recent rules change.
As someone who hates how pushed UG as become in recent sets, seeing a mono black deck in the hands of the mono black master pulling off a super cool turn using their own cards against them was very cathartic!
Good part of the episode starts at 00:00
Their banter is hilarious.
43:02 "no tires on this tracker"
best joke of the episode
Justin's last turn was done masterfully. Fun to watch.
I disagree. As soon as Chainer hits they stopped playing magic and it became a game of solitaire.
Agree, it was a really well played turn! Had things panned out in a way where Jeremy would've just gotten to cast villainous wealth a million times, the game would've been as simple as "I play all the things I get off of wealth, then I get wealth back and do it all again". With Chainer, there were some delicate decisions to be made from Justin's side to ensure he'd position himself as well as possible. To me, this means that a Chainer strategy requires more of a sharp tactical mind from its pilot than a villainous wealth strategy. That said, I do not in any way intend to imply that I think Jeremy is untactical as a magic player, not at all! I see it as Jeremy enjoying villainous wealth as a card, nothing more :)
Nah, it wasn't solitaire. Solitaire is watching Jeremy playing Villainous Wealth. There were numerous tactical decisions involving sequencing and triggers, and it was great to see.
I just love when the featured comment wrecks the game for me, which is now posted at the top of the page instead of the bottom.
Yup, he's the best player by far, especially when playing mono black, which is why the others go after him so hard. I feel like their aggression is usually misdirected, though, as they don't seem to consider the board state very well and just attack Justin because he's Justin.
When Justin said “they’re just gonna skip the intro anyway” and I’m here watching the intro like :(
Hey man, some people are monsters after all, skipping the banter (the soul of the series) for the gameplay alone :(
Omg my point screen made it into the episode - thanks guys for the sweet content in these weird times😁
Rip to Steven not untapping Manascape directly after casting it off Tezz + to Coffers and go off.
THANK YOU! When he passed his first turn with it without using Tezzeret I was so bummed!
at that point in the game he was clearly overwhelmed with how many options he had and it was kinda disappointing to realize it.
i paused the video immediately to join the comment barrage. Stephen, i am disappointed..... ;(
So Sweet to see mono black Chainer take the crown against other 3 blue players, notably Tasigur and Tatyova.
Spoiler:
I find it hilarious that the Villainous Wealth deck lost to someone stealing all of its permanents and using them to win. The irony.
Chainer was the original steal your stuff.
@@Gamerdad2008 The greatest gravebrobber of the multiverse.
Congratulations Justin! The ending was marvelous, i loved watching you put together the win like that. This chainer deck is so sweet!
Yeah but he is ok against others but not others against him.
Just started this, and I am so hyped for the theme! Each deck feels like it matches its player. Justin gets to play mono black Chainer(!), Jeremy is Sultai, Jon with the underestimated Tatyova, and Stephen spinning the wheel with Wanderer. Fingers crossed this turns out good! Edit: this was a good game, some good back and forth, and I’m happy with how it ends. Mainly bc it’s one of my fav commanders that wins lol
Chainer is the best mono black commander. Change my mind....it’s an utter crime that it’s ranked 9th in mono black commanders used on EDHREC
I like it that way. Especially now that there is a red black one with a billion deck tech videos.
Also, the broken card in chainer is always Mindslicer. Every time that thing hits a zone other than the library my play group goes "NOOOOOOO!"
best is not congruent with most fun. He's mostly a combo machine and a lot of people dont like playing like that
My favourite at least
i love chainer, but in my opinion yawgmoth is the strongest mono black commander
Chainer is indeed extremely powerful (this episode is proof enough). I personally find K’rrik, Son of Yawgmoth to be my personal favorite mono black commander, but to each their own. Black is probably the most powerful color in magic, and there’s countless commander options that have the ability to be crazy amounts of good. Alongside Chainer and K’rrik, there’s Vito, Razaketh, Ob Nixilis Unshackled, Ayara, and Kokusho, to name a few.
Never skipping intro💪 I usually watch intro soon as I can and after that game in 2 or 3 part.
I actually own 3 of these commanders and i did built a Chainer once (swap it out for Yawgmoth). Fun to see them in action against each other (totally different brews anyway).
#TeamParnell!! I've been waiting for Chainer to be back for a very long time!!
Spoilers
It was soooo sweeeeeeet and worth the wait.
I’m building a Tasigur deck myself and recently watched the deck tech Jeremy did with The Command Zone on his Tasigur deck.
Excited to watch.
Always grateful for the game, boys. Hope y'all are staying safe! I would've liked to see Mr. Suarez's deck play a bit more, but that was no fault of his own. #TeamGresuarell
This episode is proof that Tatyova could successfully be slotted into any deck that could run her.
the most boring goodstuffs card ever, can't believe she's an uncommon.
I honestly thought through out most of the beginning Justin and Chainer(my favorite) were done for. Fun game to watch.
I love seeing the best mono-black commander around smash a UGx table. Chainer is by far one of my favorite commanders to play, congrats on being the titan of titans
Great content. Yall almost make willing to try Commander again!
NEVER skiped an intro! ;D
34:15 you could also untap the refactor
So much black mana to cast commander and casade for rites
I can’t wait for in 15 seasons time they do titans of titans OF TITANS!! Btw really fun to watch the high level plays, especially Justin’s last turn really skill fully done!
I am just floored on that display of power Chainer has. Wow!
I never skip the intro, it's the funniest part.
I loved watching Justin do what any great black player should do. He nailed the sequencing there.
Power at any price!
Beautiful gameplay!
#teamparnell
I feel like the spirit of the 'kill everyone at once' point penalty is relevant here. Being circumventable by waiting for the next upkeep doesn't make it less of a combo win, or for better TV. Not sure if there's a clean way to reword the rule, but just take your -1 and get your +1 pride. Especially from being up by 4 plus first blood plus 3 points for this game.
I think the best games are games where all your opponents dies at once:P
In the interest of not giving spoilers, I will ambiguously say that I am happy about the deck that ended up as the Titan of Titans
TITANS OF TITANS!! Been waiting for this can’t wait!!
I feel like these decks are the epitime of your playstyles/preferences. Jeremy is working his Rube Goldberg machine. Stephan is doing big stompy stuff. Jon is going to value town. And Justin, sweet sweet Justin, you have a good deck but your too nice to take the final blow too often. Always love the episodes, at least 1 person doesn't skip the credits.
Ah this was a fun one, after watching Justin take a beating for so long it was cool to see him take the W
Go Team Parnell! Go The greatest color in Magic Black
That Creation photoshop was Glorious.
Great win Justin! but you could have choose deadeye navigator and your creature with the primordial and start blinking it for all the creatures :)
I had that idea too but deadeye's ability needs blue
Oh they are just soooo salty... gonna need moa crackers for all this salt
I haven't sensed that much salt from the cast yet tbh; at around 51:20, Jeremy definitely was salty/sad about people ruining his fun with his villainous wealth deck :P
Well, I suppose Jon isn't having much fun either, what with him not even having had his commander for two turns of the game :P
Even before the rule change Decree of Pain drew cards off of Commanders. It draws off of how many creatures are "destroyed" by it not how many "die".
Aren't 3/4 of these just Jeremy's personal decks?
Too True #SimicMuch?
I like how everyone got trophies and games behind them and then there is Stephen, with a white wall!!! Ah, Steve my man!!!
Did he just forget about search for azcanta
are you the least bit surprised?
Perfect win Justin, show the power of Chainer. Ignore the haters
Now all they need to do is do this 15 more times, so the can have Titans ^3!!
EDIT: And then they say that at the end! Glad we're on the same wavelength. :D
@@MunchKING I got you fam
Yup, seems like the strip mine was justified.
Justinfied?
Not going to lie I haven't even played magic in over a year let alone seen Commander VS............I need to get back into it
How was Stephen playing so many lands off the top off his library? Thought it counted is playing a land for turn...
Just a bit of a misplay, Justin exiled the Corpse Connoisseur early. Unearth exiles it at end of turn, he could have used it with Nyxbloom Ancient and Phyrexian Altar to get another reanimate. Unless he sacced it for one of the black mana and I just missed it?
Just an edit because I'm an idiot. I didn't know Nyxbloom required you to tap the permanent. Never mind.
It's the creative thought that counts. I'd rather see someone share a play pattern idea that doesn't work, than not comment at all. Kudos.
The video starts at 0:00
You guys should change seat order soon
This
I agree they should change the order to spice things up.
1:01:09 -> 1:15:26 This is really the reason I don't mind playing with people who has infinite loop win-con decks :D
the cabal coffers added 24 because you had 8 swamps because of urborg, not 6. More determinant win than you all (Stephen) argued about.
Righteous win! Using other people's broken cards to win, magnificent!
Just saying, 3 out of 4 of these decks seem alot like Jeremy Noel decks, wonder who be the best? ;)
well done justin! glat to see chainer reigns supreme!
So lets try to do the actual math on getting to the next Titans of Titans episode. The plus side is each initial "Titans" episode already has lots of candidates from previous videos so if they do 1 a season, 4 Seasons will nominate each Titans of Titans candidate to be played (provided they do a Titans of Titans in the same Season that they nominate the last Titan). So 16 seasons for the Next Titans of Titans episode and then you'll need to do that 16 season cycle 3 times in order to get 4 decks to compete against each other so see Chainer in 48 seasons as it defends its title.
Season Quarantwenty is the season of Parnell.
Why don’t you guys roll for seat order every week? Especially since you guys are playing from home
Hey i broke my hip last week and i'm stuck at home for 3 months... Do you think you could do an episode every day for me? :)
Umm, at around 1:09:40'ish how did Justin play a second swamp out of the graveyard? That would have been his 3rd land and he only had the one Oracle at that point. He played Lake of The Dead from the graveyard, then a swamp from the graveyard when get got the Oracle, even saying his second land for the turn.
He initially got the Seedborn Muse out with Chainer, but then decided to get the Spark Double instead to copy Oracle. That allowed him to play a third land, which he then used to get the Seedborn Muse out with Chainer. They just did a little back tracking.
1:00:00 Stephen defines wayward.
Just before 1 hour 2 mins, Justin activates coffers for mana without an urborg out anywhere and goes off
He actually wins the game off tapping that coffers without an urborg too. Just saying. Even with that, still Team Parnell.
I came here to see Gary and I am not disappointed
A well deserved win for Justin. I don't mind someone winning with an inf combo, so long as it's not something like a non interactive 1 or two card combo. The other guys had plenty of chances to stop him from assembling the pieces. I however, can never support Justin simply because he is a Packers fan.
WOOOO Justin did the monoblack thing
15 years from now we're gonna be watching this same game in Titans of titans of Titans except it's gonna be different decks played by Jeremy, Stephen, and Jon
So I got bored and I went through to see who's won the most points overall in this series and who has the most season championships. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tfF5zlbE-aOW_PohB-8PGysXFpvt2GxNoeVLuMaM6Ok/edit?usp=sharing the document currently isn't updated for this episode haven't started watching it yet. I also don't know if this exists anywhere already.
I tried to access it and it says you need permission (which I requested). I’ve always wanted to know this breakdown but never had the time to do it myself.
I updated the sheet so anyone with the link can access it. My bad
This is nice work!
Nice work.
Just an idea for a future episode. You spin for non-legendary tribal lords. Keep up the great work.
I don't like that because most tribal lords don't do anything interesting so the odds are pretty high that three of them spin into something that gives +1+1 keyword.
But spinning for it means they curated the list down to less than a dozen... Seems legit
Maybe they should just have a champions season. Like the first 4 episodes are previous champions, ranharmonicon x2, champion of champions and then viewer submitted. Wait, there should probably be a new set commander game in there too.
I wanted to badly for Steven to plus tezzeret on his first maelstrom turn to just dump a ton of mana into the kessig wolf run so he could swing at everyone with a huge oracle
are...are jon's hands purple??
How would ur land un tap on greens upkeep u killed red so seaborn was dead
He only tapped one swamp and coffers on Jon's upkeep for 18 black only needed 5 activations to kill Jon and Jeremy so thats 15, and the 1 for entomb. On Green's upkeep, he taps a swamp for one black, sacs with Lake of the dead to get 4 black (5 total) brings back Merchant for 3 black, leaving 2 black left, sacs it for 1 black with phyrexian alter, giving 3 for the last activation.
Where the Redfern grows is bold
so strands of night is the coolest new card i've siscovered in a while
Can't wait for Titan's of titan's of titan's
I officially and canonically challenge Justin Parnell to a game of Chardee MacDennis
What's a bigger flex, winning Titans of Titans or winning with a deck with no changes from when Justin won with it the first time.
yes
The best apart about this season for me is the fact that people complained about Justin getting picked on last season when he tried to do exactly what he did in this video. You gotta respect the graveyard decks. Sure it can feel bad sometimes because when you shut them out they don't really get to look like the do much but the alternative is silly nonsense like this.
soooo: by using the sepulchral primordial trigger justin could have won on the spot. 1st: get deadeye navigator and 2 other creatures, soulbond with primordial. Activate Primordial, in response sac deadeye and the other creature you got. Now you have infinite mana, with gary you have all swamps out of your deck and with riku you can make infinite tokens.
But instead he takes oracle. :(
I for one don't skip the intro!
I just don't watch the rest of the episode.
Quando vamos ver uma zoeira entre Ross e Coye x Green e Suarez?
Corey*
Justin could have sacrificed all his creatures to his Phyrexian Altar to deny Jeremy of three draws from the Decree of pain.
lol they forgot that chainer deck is kos
Got 3 of jeremys deck then justin has chainer of course lmao what a day for team NOELL
Well, gonna say the exact same thing I said on 3 episodes last season. Please do not play decks that has villainous wealth effects while you are not in the studio. It just becomes one giant mess on the boards, that isn't fun to watch. Thankfully it ended straight after Justin started taking stuff and we never saw any of the steal cards from Jeremy, but I don't believe people would have been upset if you sat on this episode until you could go back to the studio. Taking one card from what is out on the battlefield is fine, ergo Treachery, In Bolas' Clutches, stuff like that, but as soon as you start going in to peoples graveyards/deck for multiple cards, a big mess where people forget what is what unless you are Jeremy who prepared those blank cards for writing on, but that, which last season proves, is also just a mess.
2x speed binge watched ✔
Okay I am only in the intro and I am already terribly disappointed. When I was researching my Krenko, Mob Boss deck I watch Jonathan Suarez absolutely destroy with that deck. Did I miss an episode where the deck lost?
@ProxyTheGOAT Ah thanks for the clarification. Okay John lets do it. Goblins got some great new tools. It is time to rock out the Krenko actions again!
What is fun?
Victory is fun!
When you play Chainer you become the nightmare of others LOL
Justin plays mono black...and it's chainer. Ok we just done losing games finally?
Man Jeremy has lost alot of weight,lookin good man. 👍
I didn't look at all the decklists, but Stephen's is definitely not accurate. Might want to fix that.
Go Jon!
Well if the other 3 decks were built and played correctly there is no way chainer would have won. However, that doesn't make for a great play experience.
21:23 or you can have director Kyle google it.....
Justin could've won on the stop at 1:06:59 right? He grabs Deadeye Navigator and paired with the Primordial.
Then sac a creature for triple Blue, flicker the Primordial, get 3 more creatures, sac them for 9 blue and flicker the Primordial an infinite amount of times... but I guess they don't like Infinite combos.
Not how Nyxbloom Ancient works with Phyrexian Altar
RE: Decree of Pain
regardless of the rules change, decree of pain says "destroyed this way", so it would have counted commanders to draw cards before the recent rules change.
Video starts at 0:00
Another shout out
Nice to notice that the undefeated decks have no white....
good god why are your cams sooooo foggy
Damn I miss Justin. Corey Justin Stephen and Jon would be great content.
Sepulchral of Sepulchral Primordial is pronounced: sép-el-krel.