Why are Spectre and Meltdown So Dangerous?
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Spectre and Meltdown are security flaws that, between them, affect nearly all of the world's PCs and smartphones! How did this happen, and what makes these bugs so sinister?
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It's a good thing my bank account is always empty
1stfloorguy I feel ya
fucking steam
Dr Megaman more like fucking mundaine life shit to buy
Lou D yeah, I said Steam because I thought that'd be funnier but it really is amazing how much little random stuff adds up
That is normal. (For ~8/10 Americans -Dave Ramsey)
Meltdown and Spectre can also attack your phone processor
Me : *laugh in nokia 3310*
I hope they wont attack it cause that would cause a megagalactic explosion!!! Nokia 3310 is a serious weapon!
nokia 3310 = the halo array
dont do it, were all gonna die
Plz don't drop it
@@the_danksmith134 No kidding little known fact they powered both DeathStars
@@JohnSmith-xq1pz linus shouldn't carry it
Why do vulnerabilities always get such cool names?
there was once a worm called "conficker". in german, "ficker" means "fucker" :)
Like aids?
And why did they get such pretty logos?
Probably the same reason as why storms get Human names. Easy to remember
Yeah, CVE-2018-7600 is a really cool name.
TechQuickie: “These affect almost every Intel CPU”
Me at around 1:00 : “ah good thing I use AMD”
TechQuickie 5 seconds later: “It also affects AMD CPUs”
Me: NOOOOOO
Progamerz 18 saaaaame
Meltdown doesn't affect AMD CPUs
and 3000 series Ryzen CPUs include hardware mitigations against Spectre
Yes but it's spectre. You're safe from meltdown
Me: Haha Im on my phone!!!
Techquickie 1 second later: ...and even Qualcomm CPUs
Me: FUUUUUUUUU....
Good to update regularly if theres windows update available and read it first before update
You didn't give enough ram to chrome, ffs Linus!
He closed the tabs in chrome's task manager
Chrome 💕 RAM
And the internet Tabs get super tiny with no text, so I'll never leave Firefox.
Good thing my school uses MacBooks *AND CHROME* and the teachers are always wondering why the laptops are so slow
matthigast that’s every teacher but they only have 2gigs of ram XD
what the heck is specter and meltdown ?
Wow, someone finally actually explained what the fucking bugs do. Thank you. I was getting tired of people just saying "Oh it's bad" and not actually caring about what it really does
you are more likely to encounter a dinosaur than a meltdown or spectre exploit
@@m3talgame20 how do you know?
@@m3talgame20 can you explain how
@@m3talgame20 *Last Online 3 years ago*
@@VeryBigExplosion hmm old video it seems. I'd be more worried about china
i aint afraid of no ghost
aR0ttenBANANA96 GHOSTBUSTERS
aR0ttenBANANA96 I ain't afraid of no sleep
I ain't afraid of no bed
My server doesn't have this vulnerability, but my Gaming PC does :(
Banking on server
Fapping on battlestation
Not that hard
Who you gonna call...
CPU: I can predict your next move.
Spectre, Meltdown: Omae wa mou shindeiru
CPU: *NANI?!*
*Rather loud melting sounds*
As I expected Modern Technology is dangerous, nothing beats my old but realiable Abacus
Franz Tinuviel how bout them space probes orbiting jupiter?
Comet Streak
Probably just trash we found in space
Yeah but can it run Crysis
It is dangerous. Depends on acceleration.
Abacus is a bit advanced for me
2:30 Google Chrome is inacurate it needs like THE WHOLE DAM BAR!
I confirm as a Google Chrome user
@Revali Which is a Chromium-based browser xD
I think Firefox and Safari are the only ones that aren't Chromium now.
For me, who is using google chrome *with two tabs open*, I have discovered that google chrome uses up around a fat 780 mb of ram.
I cant relate to not having enough RAM for my browser, I use Edge.
somehow Microsoft did something right
Fun fact!: Early Intel Atom processors (the ones in netbooks from 2008-2010, like the n270 and n450) don't support speculative execution and therefore aren't vulnerable to Spectre/Meltdown.
when its so bad that virus wont even bother to infect it
The best CPUs ever made
@bruh lol good one
This was probably the best Techquickie video. I actually learned something instead of just getting a lot superficial knowledge
I think this is still superficial knowledge
I learned more about how the exploits work, but nothing to change my mind about how useless it is to obsess about them. Fact is we're screwed if anyone truly talented decides to come after our info. Vulnerabilities >>> Fixes for them
Really, because this was the most useless video I've watched yet.
What does knowing how these work do for anyone that isn't working to fix them?
I'd much rather learn all the discrepancies between file types than how a bug that will never effect 99% of people works.
@@jeffbrownstain You obviously didn't understand the video then.
mcrsit Year old video dude gtfo
It’s not the same without tunnelbear
GerardoMjr what happened to tunnelbear
RayZr search we broke up.. linustechtips! he will tell you!
fcukin old fukin news!
lets keep it here
mcafee bought tunnelbear
that should say enough
goddamn mcafee
*4:26** the barking cpu, I'm dead.* 😂
normie
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Lol, my name really is Jeff and I live in N.Y. I own an i7 4770k though, not an i5 4670k.😋
Sure it’s not Rémi?
Qyndryx
Yeah because my Surname would be *Rooms* ...
My name jeff
So, the CPUs are like:
"Your next line will be..."
Oh ho
@@deki9827 josef joster
6:01 Speaking of plugging holes.....buttplu.....ahem....tunnel bear!! Wanna plug the holes where your ISP can peek at your data? Use a vpn to plug your data holes.
LMAO!
Russ Orler tunnelbear was bought by mcafee so no more tunnelbear ads lol
Dadda Purple speaking of no more ads..... ADVERTISEMENT HERE!
its all pia ads now.
Although I've started using IPVanish and am comfy.
There's a hole in your T-shirt Linus :/
Or a stray piece of potato chip or some other food item.
Technically, all shirts have holes in them.
mind blown
I think that’s his microphone
Well duh that’s where his head, arms and body go in
One important thing that was not mentioned: Meltdown (Intel specific) allows a program to read memory from anywhere on the CPU, included protected system memory. The 2 main spectre vulnerabilities can only read from the currently executing program or another program running in userspace (not system).
Solution: USE A INTEL i386 processor! (iT'S MADE BEFORE 1995 RIGHT? Or am I dumb? =/)
386 came out in late 1985. 1995 was Pentium Pro.
Ah, 33Mhz.
@@DJMavis should be enough for the rtx 3070
a bit late, Linus
better than never
i think he is laying it out on Jump St for those who keep asking him what the exploits instead of googling it for themselves lol
But at least his descriptions of the vulnerabilities are more detailed than in some other RUclipsrs' videos.
More like a byte
Cavey Manta
No one is better then ComputerPhile
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There are mistakes in what CPU are vul ... go and read the sec paper or visit the website they layout the vul easily and you would know
Checked my steam like 10 times whilst watching this video
Could you enlighten me? Also have Steam, just be online there once a month for new games.
And then just single player rpg, as I am married 😂
Have no clue why someone even would go online on steam once a day...
@@EREMIT-DE Because they play a lot of games?
@@NobbsAndVagene
Cool answer, so they play a lot of games
and that is why they checking steam 10 times a day instead of playing a lot of games...
so... if someone has a real answer... still no clue ^^ are you watching comments on games or have some forums I still not know about...?
@@EREMIT-DE because the video had a lot of sound effects similar to that of which steam uses.
bro i have no steam friends i dont have such weaknesses
Could you talk about the Cambridge analytica scandal?
Bas 7 its more a political topic than anything else
We have all known about facebook selling our personal info for years, yet only now do people seem to care...
It's just Facebook, Twitter selling data to a company that then does shit.. Thats what I understood 🙂
nigga what yeah that's true
T.S that’s not the issue, it’s the fact that Cambridge will also take your friends info and sell it. It’s like your friend had sex with a skank and you got their aids as well. It’s probably worth for them but not for you
The power of christ compels you - spectre the ghost flys out of pc -
Hands down, this was pretty amazing. Great job, Linus.
Cant expect an assembly spectre exploit in a 10 min vid
photoshop using less ram than chrome? 🤣
Who thought their *Steam* was going off during this video? xD
me :(
Since Spectre must ask the CPU repeatedly to execute the instructions, the CPU could take notice of this. It could then stop executing the instructions, investigate which program is doing so, and then delete Spectre.
It should use windows defender to notice it
@@stellanstafford6025 most OS don't have windows defender
This is one of the best readers digest explanations of the Spectre and Meltdown exploits I've seen so far. Bravo, Linus and the Techquickie team!
Spectre meltdown fix. Remove Internet lol
No just use nokia 3310
One consolation about Spectre & Meltdown. We've been hearing (a lot) about these vulns that will end life as we know it, but so far, (as far as I know), there has not been a single malicious example used in the wild, anywhere, any time, by anyone against anyone. The Y2K bug was lot more real and present and easy to demonstrate...
I'm not saying they can't be used in the wild, but we've heard a hell of a lot about them, but after 4 or 5 months, there's still not been a single case of anyone catching gonorrhoea off a toilet seat.
I was watching this on my newly bought Sceptre monitor and freaking out until I realized it's just an anagram.
"Why are Spectre and Meltdown so dangerous?"
Mindustry players: indeed they are
Dont say the forbidden names!
laughs in meltdown wall
laughs in infinite wall health
"[Spectre] will dump the information the attacker wants into cache"
Cache as well as cash $$$ 😬
My comp is protected by Drax! His reflexes are so fast nothing would go over his head!
Only one of you were first.
First
First
Galvatron I said it for a joke here
*Blue shell*
4:21 Who else checked Steam??
2:10 i checked steam xD
It's not really the same Sound
Change your name asshole
@@DacLMK no I don't think I will
@@V0TION Change it, it disrupts scrolling on the page
Who the hell cares about someone being the first of a video
The whole schematic to explain the vulnerabilities is very well put together. Nice work!
You say I'll notice when my bank account is empty, but that's my secret. My bank account is *always* empty.
Spectre is incredibly impractical to exploit. It can really only be used effectively against task-specific machines since the standard home user machine has so much junk data. This supposedly makes it a very useful exploit to steal hashing addresses and wipe out crypto wallets though. Enterprise servers that process payments are ripe targets as well.
Thank you for developing meltdown and spectre, NSA
As a guy who just had a subject dedicated to building processors from scratch, all of these terms seem very familiar to me, and I loved how well described the problems are in this video, just as always, Techquickie delivers!
This was kinda a late video.
The gold is best mylar to drone sheets over triple meltdowns plutonium concoction.keep change bagged good defence.weapon..
Intel said the chips are working as designed though
It is ABOUT to be patched.
Yes, they are working perfectly to NSA's specifications...
in a sense they are
the exploit is a result of a feature of all modern Cpu's, issue was that intel prefered ot leave ppl in the dark when they knew the issue was now exploitable
Techquickie: it infects computer CPU’s
Me around 1:00: good thing im watching this on a tablet ;-;
Techquickie: IT EVEN INFECTS SMARTPHONES
Me: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Knock knock!"
*Branch prediction*
"Who's there?"
This thing hit hard on intel and since AMD is back (without this issue) - intel is on the hot seat since 2020 ... ^^
Welp, time to bust out the old 486!
"Here's what you won't get on your 486!"
Good thing I always Delete my credit card info after buying something online..
GeorgiaGals AWPW 2018 good thing i pay on a seperate machine, so if i want to buy something i boot my 2th machine, pay, shut down!
Brought to you by the good folks at the NSA (and the University of Wisconsin). A feature, not a bug.
How to go around it? Do what (I want) to do! (but i don't have the money)
1. buy a really cheap pc, it will have the power to run easy software.
2. only buy from there
3. dont download ANYYTHING OR CLICK OR ANYTHING THAT YOU DONT TRUST
4. Here you go! A not-so-cheap way of protecting your credit card!
Great explanation!
Lol I got an ad for an antivirus program before watching this
*Laughs in AMD*
Marcuss2 AMD master race
AMD budget race
*cries in coffee lake*
Hans Von Witzland that's still 50% less major vulnerability issues than intel
Laughs in RYZEN
Good thing that I've kept my old 486 systems
However this site mentions that the Pentium Pro was the first Intel CPU to use Speculative Execution. Apparently The Socket 4,5 and 7 regular Pentiums and even the Pentium MMX processors don't utilize this.Only the Pentium Pro and later Pentium II's do
www.extremetech.com/computing/261792-what-is-speculative-execution
2:26 this is totally unreasonable Linus! You're a tech person, I wouldn't thing that you of all people would make this mistake!!
1 ram stick per google chrome tab
At 4:22, “This guy really likes x+y” LOL! And the barking CPU
I'm still wondering why my name was used for a security bug.
Cus it sound cool
Sam Wansitdabet that's why I picked it
CommanderRE I also have an AMD processor. Coincidence?
SpectreFour I think not.
Those noises from the viruses are enough to give me nightmares and make me not download anything off the web again...
Could those exploits be used on game consoles to run homebrew?
Yes, but it would require some customization.
no... that's not how any of this works... this is reading memory, not running an os
Only if you are connected to the internet.
Watching this after taran said he gave the malwares their own "personalities"...great touch :)
time to change my passwords to some 10 word sentences
Don't say that or attackers will know the method to crack you.
Dominik Goslawski Problem is they get cached anyway...
I wonder is this why Windows 11 wants to limit older CPUs from running on it even though they are good CPUs with lots of life left? 8th gen intel and 2nd gen ryzen and up?
1:19 But what about consoles and refrigerators?
How much you want to bet Specter and Meltdown were intentionally implemented at the direction of the NSA and only got fixed because OOPS cats out of the bag
If you want to learn more about these vulnerabilities and see them in action, i recommend you check this great Computerphille video: ruclips.net/video/I5mRwzVvFGE/видео.html
Why can the malware even analyse the timings on the CPU for commands it isn't supposed to(and can't) see?
This was so simpified and and comprhensive thanks lmg
I'm definitely not the only one going to the comment section looking for that one Jeff from New York who's the proud owner of an overclocked 4670K right?
I found a fix that works on all platforms to prevent any data from being compromised from this issue: disconnect your internet connection permanently! cx
Offline is making a comeback!
So how does our system get affected by these? Can linus or someone else pls reply?
Wrote a paper on this, so it's interesting to understand what he's talking about in this case. These flaws are game-changing for microarchitecture design.
Actual question here: how do specter and meltdown know how fast certain data from certain memory addresses get loaded in if they don't have access to the data in the first place, and so, don't know when they would otherwise get it?
Techquickie:Spectre and meltdown attack modern CPU
Me: so I'm using Intel core duo 2
yay Linus, way better voice then the other guy
You have 4 less dislikes on this vid than “why does resetting stuff fix stuff” and the same amount of likes
The Spectre! One of my favorite son- Oh.. you are talking about that other Spectre...
INTEL: I don’t feel so good AMD....
I like how at 2:35 PhotoShop eats up more RAM than Chrome ;))))
Why don't we have quantium CPUs (the only solution)
They would still probably have to speculate, although there is higher read and write speed.
Well then... I guess I'll add this to the list of things that keep me up at night...
Good job, can't imagine how hard this was to make, simplifying and compressing technical information like this is truly impressive. Give my regards to the script writer.
It just crossed my mind that this voulnerability might be a front to dish out AI based CPUs.
thats insane how someone can just figure that out. theres hope for humanity because of the few geniuses we have out there
Is it not possible to to code a software that tells the processor to check for a certain code before allowing it to do anything whatsoever?
Regardless of whether the new processors can protect themselves against these exploits in the future, there will be a LOT of the old, current, unprotected CPU's on the market for many, many years to come.
Well I got a virus
Cancer it affected more than most people since ever BTW cancer isibt a virus
Linus during the video:😐🙂
Linus during ads: 😄😁
If you have any old netbooks lying around from 2008-2011 or so, the models of Intel Atom processors those netbooks use are NOT affected by either Spectre or Meltdown. Just slap Linux on it to replace XP, and use that for the more security-sensitive tasks. That's one option, anyway.
Still can’t get my ti 84 with doom
Are macs with T2 chips safe from this(if they run MAC OS of course)...
No, it's a physical issue on the processor and unless apple develops their own they're still vunerable
Thanks!
And who tells me that Intel didn´t know all along and they didn´t want to fix the problem for performance hit? What if AMD knew about it and they kept their CPUs more safe in the expense of performance? The biggest problem with Intel chips is that these vulnerabilities can be remote executed as were with AMD physical access to the computer is first needed to be exploited. But that´s all a theory for now...
Hey Linus I’m building a pc right now and I’m stuck between a 1070 ti and rtx 2070 I know the rtx 20170 is more powerful but I won’t be able to get the core i7 should I go with the cheaper gpu and get the core i7 or go with the 2070 and stick with a core i5 does anybody know if the processor difference would. Make a big difference
Virus Program: Hey, can I see the contents of memory address #17?
Ghetto CPU: Fuck you, I aint giving u shit
That just blows my mind. So even if I do something as simple as:
if(false) {dothis()} it will still 'dothis()' even though the code literally renders it impossible because of the possibility of having to 'dothis()'?
Honestly I don't understand why they posted this video now.. if you wanna make the video as viral as possible, you had to post it some weeks ago, when even non-tech enthusiasts knew something about it. I mean maybe it's cause it took alot of time to be made, but that much time?
Anyway super informative and great video as always!!!
Why did it take until now to be discovered? 1995 bro.... Also i heard that for Spectre you have to be physically next to someone's PC, while Meltdown can be exploited remotely. Is it true?
Now there is a new Exploit this year.