@@Canada_Facts You’re welcome. I do have a question though. I have the 3 decos but I want to extend my current isp router’s coverage. I have it set in router mode, but is there a way to have them both (the deco and my isp router) as ONE network, just expanded? Or will I always have TWO SEPARATE networks (Deco and isp)? Currently in router mode, it STILL creates 2 networks as if it was in AP mode
@@Canada_Facts or do I have to log into the deco and give it the same up address as my isp router to do this? It’s just a hassle to constantly switch between the 2 networks as I have an entire smartphone ecosystem set up
@@TheJaybird95 You can only get that experience with Bell or rogers where the pods are integrated with their modems If you have bought it separately you can never have the same experience and 1 network
Thank you, very informative. I've been searching RUclips for a study between Router mode and a access point mode, and you have provided the answer. I will go for Router mode with some new TP-Link Deco M4 mesh routers.
Dozens of videos watched and only those two are explaining everything that I was wondering perfectly. Again the Indian guy is here to teach and save the day. Good work sir.
Hi Jay, thank you for this video. I have a firewall and was connecting my deco's through the firewall, which was also handing out IPs. Because of your video I was able to understand how Deco uses Bridge mode.
The main thing is what is the lag in milli seconds for the device to switch between these nodes when you move around in two modes. That is missing in this review. Did you run the AP mode speed test after the swith or before the switch?
Thank you for this video. I have been getting random disconnections and slow downs with my X20 which is connected to my Arris modem/wifi router. There were no instructions telling me that I had to put my Arris into Bridge mode for the Deco Mesh system to work correctly in WiFi Router mode. All the installation videos just say plug then connect via Deco App. Also did you change the default DNS servers to a better one for speed and reliabiltiy?
Hello as you said in a video ap mode is not advisable when main router and deco near each other? Also what if i switch to AP mode so basically my deco hardwire to my isp router then how about my 2nd deco? Should i need also to hardwire it or just leave it as wireless since it is connected to my main deco.
@Canada_Facts Thank you for your explanation. One question is if this same concept would apply to the Tp Link Deco s4. I'm running them as AP from my ISP provider right now and I'm not getting the speeds that I should.
Hi Jasdeep, I have a mutli 4 story house that is wired and all wires meet in basement. Currently ONT modem device also is right next to all the wires in basement. I added a switch to network all the house jacks, and I would like to add Decos as AP wired backhaul. So is my setup correct like this ? ONT Modem----->Router with DCHP------>Switch in basement. Then Switch----->Main Deco on Level 1 as AP and use jacks in each connected via Switch on Level 2, Level 3 as AP. Is this the only possible conflict free setup ? Thanks for your videos.
This should work for you as long as AP config is the objective Honestly there are tons of possibilities and you can always try mix and match to see what is the best for you
What if my isp router has sufficient ports so that all decos can be directly connected to it and disbursed around my house? If I turn off the isp router's WiFi signal would that alleviate the competing networks issue? Also, is it better to daisy chain each deco to one another, or would plugging all directly to the isp router achieve the same speeds?
Great question Connecting all decos to ISP would be an AP mode I think If you could either connect all decos with ISP (for AP) or if you could connect all slave decos to Main deco (router) That is the best If not then you can daisy chain If you are not going to hardwire then daisy chaining would automatically happen
Hi, i have a modem and plug the deco in the switch and installed de deco first in router mode...after installation i have put it in AP mode but i want to put it in another room the deco m5 buth when i unplugged it and put it in a another room its blinking red
thanks bro for this video, i have big house with three deco connecting to the rogers modem.. main deco is just next to the rogers modem and rest others are at separate floor and I have converted into AP mode and Bridge mode is disable in rogers modem.. Issue is very frequent drop off.. any idea what shall I do.. thanks in advance
i have a question, my router its pretty good its a Archer C80 i dont want to use the deco m5 as a router casue i think my router is better, in acces point you think will be better conection? at least?
Hello friend, I am trying to resolve a double NAT issue and was wondering if just converting to AP mode and then having my device connected to the Deco resolves that or if the mode is irrelevant and I need to change a setting on my router itself?
thanks for the video. Very helpful. I am using 2xDeco X60, connected to Jio Fiber router. should that router be set to Class routing? (I see only two options there, One is classic other is NAT. Deco X60 has another issue, everytime it takes a reboot, I need to reconfigure that again. not sure why.
Hi Jay, why put the decoders in AP mode and not mesh? You can configure the main one as AP and from then on all of them as mesh to create a mesh network, wouldn't the network be more fluid?
Hi Jay, great Video explanation. I am currently using 2 Deco X20 connected to my Kaon AR2140 router. Can you advise the best setup connect connect this 2 Decos in home of 3 Storey (Main router is at 2nd floor) with several static and non static devices. I am thinking of setup : Router AR2140 --> MAIN DECO (Router mode) --> Second DECO (AP Mode). this is to take advantage of the features that is supported by Deco in router mode i.e. Monthly report, Antivirus, Connection Alerts, Parental Controls, QoS, and others that is not supported by DECO in AP Mode.
I've got a modem central with router functionality. I have 3 lan kabels to all the areas where i would need an acces point. I have 3 Deco's. Couldn't tell if i would be able to connect all the Deco's via the lan cable to the router and use them as AP's and the router as central wifi point. As i look at your video's in AP mode the Deco's need to be connected to each other via wifi of cable and not via the main modem/router. Am i correct? thanks!
It’s actually not that complicated. My router cable goes into a switch from where 3 cables go to each of the DECO points Then in app I selected AP mode and one of the points to be the mai deco Thats it
@@Canada_Facts Yes i did this setup a month ago (Provider modem/router 1 long cable underneath the garden, 1 switch upstairs with 2 cables). The provider modem/router functions as both and the Deco's as AP's. Was worth the try and seem to work perfect! Thanks for your reply.
Thank you. So basically since my ISP modem broadcasts WiFi and I have a small place where the deco will be close to the modem, I should use router mode for seamless roaming.
Hi, I’m in a 3 story condo. My modem/router is connected (via Ethernet) to my main deco on the first floor. The second deco is on the 2nd floor and my third deco is on 3rd floor. What is the best set up? Ap or router mode? I cannot connect decos 2 and 3 via Ethernet
I would prefer router mode if your isp router and main deco are placed together Ap mode would make sense if your main deco is far away from isp router and AP mode enables you to use both If they are close router mode would avoid interference. I would also suggest stoping isp router wifi
Hey i think i need some help, i have my arris Modem downstairs and my netgear router in my bedroom upstairs wired to it. however the 2.4Ghz wifi radio doesn't work on it so I set up a spare TP -link wifi extender to run in AP mode wired to my router to use the 2.4Ghz radio on it for my other older devices. I turned DHCP off on both router and extender and they both run in AP mode. This works for like 2 days perfectly no issues then my router just stops working (the feed from the modem works still) I'm not sure weather I'm supposed to change something on my modem or keep the router in router mode with DHCP off or idk man it works.. but why stop working after a while? keep in mind my setup worked fine before attempting to add the TP-link extender but I really need it to work.
Thanks a lot for your video, really helpfull....but im installing deco x20 mesh system on a big apartment, old construction type (big concrete wall, etc.). I am thinking which network architecture to follow. If I connect my main router from my isp to a main switch and from there feed the deco through cable (access point mode). Can I connect through port number 2 to a second deco device? to take advantage of the two gigabit ports of these devices?
@@Canada_Facts please confirm I have my main deco wired to my modem, Can I wire from that deco to my second deco or do I take my 2nd deco and wire back to my modem,I’m not real sure how the backhaul works. Do I just continue as a daisy chain, into one port of the Deco and out the next port of the next Deco and so forth, please any help would be appreciated
Hi Jay. My x20 has two nodes. Is one supposed be plugged directly into the wifi router? What happens to the wifi router ? Is router mode using the wifi router at all? (Because it doesn’t show up I their app)
I have 6 decos M5 all in AP mode and all hard wired. I am confused whether the Arris modem/router should be in bridge mode which i understand it to be that its wifi is turned off. Would love to discuss it over the phone with you as you have provided one of the best explanations.
I have 2 deco m5 in ap mode, I have a dlink router as dhcp server ( wifi off). the isp router is in bridge mode. so my decos m5 provide wifi connection, dlink router dhcp only, isp router just have optical fiber cable an provide internet to my dlink router
Hi Jasdeep, very informative. I am having similar issue, i also have my house hard wired with cat 6 cables. Now, if i want create a separate network on second storey, can i put a router on any hardwired outlet on upper level and create a separate network with connecting directly to service provider modem or it will work on repeater mode. I tried Huawei ax3 router sold by costco but i am getting security alert msgs from google. Its a separate issue though. Pls, let me know what do you think.
If you want a second network through your Isp modem so essentially you are talking about access point mode You could probably hard wore through modem and try to create a new network and it should work
Hi, my sky ISP requires VDSL connection to my TP link router with of course deco does not support. I have set up currently in AP mode. I assume I need to switch off my router wifi but does this set it to bridge mode? Also is it possible to configure deco in router mode when connected to my main router via LAN
In AP mode you would usually keep your isp router ON and keep the same name of wifi In Router mode you would use the bridge mode and of isp router Yes you can configure router mode via Lan but the Lan connection should be between main deco and isp router From there the Lan connection should go from Main deco to other deco (you van use a switch maybe)
Enjoyed your video thanks for sharing. I have my home and then 2 buildings next to my home and both are connected to my home by 2 ethernet cables each. Would my best option be to run all in AP mode and daisy chain them together? I would like my home and 2 buildings all to be on the same network. I also have two switches in my home to control other wired devices. Would the Deco just plug into the first switch? Hope your channel continues to grow you explain things very well!
so if i do access point mode we will connect to the router's wifi? there will be no "main deco" ssid? i want my devices to connect to the router but after doing router mode the router has no internet anymore
hi mate, so if i just have one x60 plugged into my router and the other 2 x60s using just mesh wirelessly, can i still use the ethernet ports on x60s to plug into TVs?
Hi, can I connect the x60 to two Internet providers? Reading looks like I have to set it up as Access point in order to do it. If that its possible, do you know how it manages the signal prioritization?
I have a Hitron modem/router from Cogeco upstairs in an office in the middle of the house which is a bunglow. I have turned off the wifi on the Hitron. I then connected the main deco directly to the Hitron and connected the main deco to 4 switches (8 ethernet in each). I have placed the main deco in the basement at one end of the house and then placed 5 more decos around the house, probably an overkill but 4 upstairs and 2 downstairs). I tried AP and Router mode and not sure which one is better. The main difference is that in AP mode i also have the use of the other 3 Hitron ethernet connection to stay with one network. In the router mode, deco creates its own network so the other 3 ethernet connections on the Hitron are not useful as they belong to a different network. In both cases i am getting very good wifi from the 6 decos. I am currently in the router mode. Have I done this correctly? PS our house is large (3700 sq foot with full basement).
Hi Raj - Thanks for the question Honestly when it comes to wifi you should only check 2 things - Range (speed across different spots) + Roaming As long as both check off and you are getting the desired connection it doesn't matter whether you are using AP or Router Router does provide you Parental, Antivirus and other benefits if you want to keep those My suggestion would be - try one full week on Ap and other on Router and test the Roaming when moving from one spot to other If it is same for both then choose either
@@Canada_Facts Thanks, for now I have set it up as Router Mode. I like the fact that i have my own network that i can control. But yes I will try both and see how they perform. Liked your video. Explains it clearly.
Amazing! In access point mode mode, can I disable roger router Wi-Fi {bridge mode} and connect to switch then connect to 3 access points? Because my electrical room is far and I don’t want to waste my deck in that area. I’d rather use that in main house
Hi Jay, As per a lot of other comments you have clarified the wired backhaul config. BUT... in your scenario, what if your Router is a TPlink Router with OneMesh Then you add 2 or 3 Deco's in AP mode with wired Backhaul? Is the WHOLE wifi network seen as one big Mesh? Thats the idea isnt it ??? thanks.
@Jay Anand hi Jay, thanks for your reply. I bought a deco 3 pac in sale. And it turns out.. we are both wrong! One mesh & Deco mesh are differnt and not compatible with each other. & for those that see this. One mesh does not support wired backhaul.
Hi, in access point mode, can you plug 2 decos into your router via ethernet? I want my router in the middle and the 2 decos on the same network far on either side of the house. Will this work? Thanks
@@Canada_Facts thanks. In case you're interested I did actually get it working. Not exactly sure how, but when I set them up I changed to access point mode, then renamed the new network the same as my routers name, and that seemed to do it 🤷 wasn't very straightforward though, and haven't found good instructions anywhere. But it does work
Such a clear explanation. Thank you. I did notice that certain programs like media servers (eg Emby) only work with Deco’s AP. Someone said it had something to do with GNAT and that Id have to do a double port forward. Does that sound familiar, by any chance?
@@prefetchify ideally from router to one deco From there if you could connect the other two via switch that’s the best But your logic should work as well It’s just daisy chaining
@@Canada_Facts thank you so much for your prompt response. Have you ever tried daisy chaining? Was the result similar or worse compared to using switch?
Wanted to ask, if I use my decos as APs but they are connected to an existing router that isn’t Wi-Fi 6, would I see more benefits from changing my router to a Wi-Fi 6 router? Thank you so much
Great video. Hope you can help me here. I'm currently using a wifi5 ac modem/router and I'm planning to by a deco wifi6 x series 3-pack mesh and operate it in router mode. With this plan in mind, my question is, can i add a new ssid in the deco app in addition to the main network and the guest network? What I'm trying to accomplish is: (1) To connect my auto frequency switching devices like smartphones, ipad, tablet, laptop to the main network(5Ghz and 2.4GHz). Any of my personal devices that has the capability to autoswitch frequency should be on main network to always get maximum speed. (2) Create a new ssid with 2.4GHz only separate from the main and guest network. Reason: majority of my smart devices such as plugs, lights, switches, etc are working on 2.4GHz frequency only, they were designed with maximum distance in mind and the side effect is that they'll have trouble connecting or reconnecting to an ssid if that ssid name is broadcasting both on 2.4GHz and 5GHz at the same time. They must be on an SSID that is only broadcasting the 2.4GHz frequency so that they won't have issues connecting or reconnecting to wifi. I would prefer my smart devices to be on the same network as main and not isolated. (3) I want to keep the guest network for guests only. I want to make the guest network isolated from my main network. So i would prefer not to put my smart devices on guest network. Guest network must be isolated so they can't see my devices. If adding a new ssid cannot be done on deco app, then my top choice would be to let the 2.4GHz smart devices utilize deco guest network as a pure 2.4GHz only and not isolated network. For the guests, is it possible to turn on deco main wifi6 router mode, deco guest wifi6 router mode and modem/router wifi5 at the same time without causing big interference? Because if yes, that could solve my requirement of having 3 SSIDs. Guests have no right to complain if they are getting wifi5 only. Follow up question. If the Deco wifi6 x series is operated on ap mode to complement the wifi5 ac router's wifi. Does that mean that deco can only provide wifi5 speeds even when they can support up to wifi6 speeds just because the router is still on wifi5?
can you please suggest if this would work? ISP modem > TP-Link TL-R600VPN SafeStream > Deco (Primary Deco / Connecting via LAN) and configure this as dynamic IP. And rest two deco connecting via LAN (as back-haul connection using TP-Link TL-R600VPN SafeStream LAN ports)
@@Canada_Facts our ISP provided ONU and then on your own router you need to setup PPOE. Only thing is that I probably would need to disable DHCP on the Safestream and use it as switch I believe
im using DECO X60. although it works using AP mode, problem is it destroys my network, sometimes it suddenly becomes a router itself giving IP addresses even the mode is on AP.
This is definitely a good video but when i used router mode my internet speed and ping was bad soon after setup so i changed to AP now superfast though i dont have the firewall or switch functions i guess. Btw i have modem and I don't own a router does my modem act as router?
hi..i would like to ask your opinion about my setup...i am with rogers internet and have 3 deco m4...my current setup is: ROGERS MODEM (not in bridge mode and wifi turned off) --->Main deco (connected to rogers modem by ethernet) (in Access point mode)(broadcasting the wifi i am using) ---->Gigabit switch connected to the main deco by ethernet cable (12 ethernet port switch) ---->2 remaining decos connected to the gigabit switch by ethernet and located at different rooms a good distance away when i do speed tests there seems to be a big drop off in speeds in terms of hardline connection or wifi if not connected directly to the rogers modem... if a laptop is connected to the rogers modem directly by ethernet i would get almost full gigabit speed but if you connect the same laptop by ethernet to the main deco or the switch or the other remaining deco, i would see a 60% drop off in speed/mbps... do you think it would be better to use wifi router mode? do i need to set the rogers modem on bridge mode and the deco in access point mode?or bridge mode modem with wifi router mode? also, i need to be able to use functions like NAT,port forwarding and parental controls but apparently access point mode doesnt allow these features.. thanks in advance for your help
Hello.. My router using mikrotik and then port mikrotik to port 1 main deco1.. And port2 main deco1 to another deco2 port1.. And then port2 deco2 goes to port1 deco3 It's it possible and how about througgput?? This still fine??
Hi Jay, super and clear explanation. Quick question here, in router mode my laptop has seamless switch over between Deco's, however for my cell phones (both of them) even though there is switch over between Deco's internet doesn't seem working when it is switched from one to other Deco. I have to manually disconnect and re connect to deco for internet to work. Hence, any suggestion would be really helpful. Thanks in Advance
That is a good approach but the problem would be roaming When the mesh is of the same brand they do smooth handoff Having hardwire is just like fan vs Air conditioner Hardwire boosts the speed But mesh is needed for one common network that supports handoff and roaming
Greetings.. I have an Asus RT-AC87U Router , nearly 7 years old. Over the years my devices have grown and recently added 3 Deco X60 in a mesh configuration as access points with ethernet back haul . I live in a large 5600 sq. ft. , 3 floor home (concrete floors , 12 inch brick walls) . The home is covered by cat 6 cabling , so all heavy media centers ( 1 home theater and 2 smaller setups , all 4K , Netflix , Hotstar , +++) are wired ( TV's , Roku's , 4 K Fire Sticks , Apple TV , NVidia ) . I am into home automation so have a number of 2.4 Ghz camera's , smart devices. I also have a Zigbee set up ( about 34 devices) on a HA server . There would be about 50 + WiFi devices and about 20 + wired devices accessing the internet ( thru the Deco Mesh and some on the Asus Router) . While about 40 devices access through the deco mesh , and 20+ are wired , all the DHCP protocols are handled by the Asus Router . I would like to upgrade the router , to one capable of handling multiple devices. The WiFi coverage is not very important as the Deco Mesh would cover the home . Any suggestions as to the path I should take ? Your thoughts most welcome. I live in Bangalore.
@@Canada_Facts Appreciate your quick reply. My concern is that the main router (Asus or the Deco X60) should have the cpu power to handle 100 + devices as the DHCP will be handled by only one device (router) and not by the access points. The traffic /bandwidth to the internet would get channelized thru the router ,. The WiFi processing would be done by the access points scattered around the home , but ultimately it will be the router linked to the WAN which will do some heavy lifting. Am I correct in my thought process ? If so , what should be my next step !! Look forward to your inputs.
I don't know why but I have had to use Access Point mode in my 2 bedroom Flat, for some reason with Router Mode i was getting a lot of random disconnects during work meetings and online gaming, it was not stable at all, I presumed this was something to do with interfering signals, potentially from my ISPs provided modem but honestly I'm not sure after watching this video because it sounds like I should be using Router mode...
Generally AP mode is more preferred if the two rooms are pretty far and you would not be roaming from one room to other However if the rooms are close and you end up roaming a lot, I would prefer Router mode But if the ISP modem causes interference you could turn off the Wifi on that and try There is always scope for exceptions and best setup is the one which adapts to the layout of your home
If youre having problems with router mode, then going to AP brings into question the quality of the router. The router quality isnt a problem in deco router mode because its only acting as a modem to the deco, which is basic functionality for even the cheapest routers. If you're router is high quality and can handle 64+ devices then having the Deco's in AP mode, shouldnt reduce speeds. Be sure to TURN OFF wifi on the main router in BOTH modes and run a LAN cable to the first deco. If wifi is left on in AP passthrough and Access point mode, then you may get interference.
Thanks for sharing your results. The outcome differs due to a lot of variables like location, setup. I have recently switched to AP for sometime and observing amazing speeds
This is the ABSOLUTE BEST explanation of the differences between Router and AP mode I’ve seen. It’s SO simple. Thank you so much!
Thanks for the feedback
@@Canada_Facts You’re welcome. I do have a question though. I have the 3 decos but I want to extend my current isp router’s coverage. I have it set in router mode, but is there a way to have them both (the deco and my isp router) as ONE network, just expanded? Or will I always have TWO SEPARATE networks (Deco and isp)? Currently in router mode, it STILL creates 2 networks as if it was in AP mode
@@Canada_Facts or do I have to log into the deco and give it the same up address as my isp router to do this? It’s just a hassle to constantly switch between the 2 networks as I have an entire smartphone ecosystem set up
@@TheJaybird95 You can only get that experience with Bell or rogers where the pods are integrated with their modems
If you have bought it separately you can never have the same experience and 1 network
@@Canada_Facts well I have Verizon Fios. My isp modem and and router is a combo (1 device) [if that’s what you were referring to]
I've been looking for a simple explanation of this all morning and you gave it to me clearly and accessibly. Thank you! Makes so much sense.
Glad this video helped you
This is by far the best explanation of all, I am switching to router mode
Thanks for the appreciation, glad it helped
Thank you, very informative. I've been searching RUclips for a study between Router mode and a access point mode, and you have provided the answer. I will go for Router mode with some new TP-Link Deco M4 mesh routers.
Glad it helped
Dozens of videos watched and only those two are explaining everything that I was wondering perfectly. Again the Indian guy is here to teach and save the day. Good work sir.
Glad it helped
Hi Jay, thank you for this video. I have a firewall and was connecting my deco's through the firewall, which was also handing out IPs. Because of your video I was able to understand how Deco uses Bridge mode.
Superb description, thank you so much. I’ve been struggling with this question for a while! 🎉
The main thing is what is the lag in milli seconds for the device to switch between these nodes when you move around in two modes. That is missing in this review. Did you run the AP mode speed test after the swith or before the switch?
You're life saver man. Allah bless you and your family 👍Greetings from Istanbul 🙌
Thanks for the wishes
Thank you for this video. I have been getting random disconnections and slow downs with my X20 which is connected to my Arris modem/wifi router. There were no instructions telling me that I had to put my Arris into Bridge mode for the Deco Mesh system to work correctly in WiFi Router mode. All the installation videos just say plug then connect via Deco App. Also did you change the default DNS servers to a better one for speed and reliabiltiy?
Hello as you said in a video ap mode is not advisable when main router and deco near each other? Also what if i switch to AP mode so basically my deco hardwire to my isp router then how about my 2nd deco? Should i need also to hardwire it or just leave it as wireless since it is connected to my main deco.
@Canada_Facts Thank you for your explanation. One question is if this same concept would apply to the Tp Link Deco s4. I'm running them as AP from my ISP provider right now and I'm not getting the speeds that I should.
Hi Jasdeep, I have a mutli 4 story house that is wired and all wires meet in basement. Currently ONT modem device also is right next to all the wires in basement. I added a switch to network all the house jacks, and I would like to add Decos as AP wired backhaul. So is my setup correct like this ? ONT Modem----->Router with DCHP------>Switch in basement. Then Switch----->Main Deco on Level 1 as AP and use jacks in each connected via Switch on Level 2, Level 3 as AP. Is this the only possible conflict free setup ? Thanks for your videos.
This should work for you as long as AP config is the objective
Honestly there are tons of possibilities and you can always try mix and match to see what is the best for you
@mackeyz77 did this Deco setup work for you? I am evaluating the same
What if my isp router has sufficient ports so that all decos can be directly connected to it and disbursed around my house? If I turn off the isp router's WiFi signal would that alleviate the competing networks issue?
Also, is it better to daisy chain each deco to one another, or would plugging all directly to the isp router achieve the same speeds?
Great question
Connecting all decos to ISP would be an AP mode I think
If you could either connect all decos with ISP (for AP) or if you could connect all slave decos to Main deco (router)
That is the best
If not then you can daisy chain
If you are not going to hardwire then daisy chaining would automatically happen
Its better put modem in bridge and Deco as router our modem as router and Deco in acces point?
Hi, i have a modem and plug the deco in the switch and installed de deco first in router mode...after installation i have put it in AP mode but i want to put it in another room the deco m5 buth when i unplugged it and put it in a another room its blinking red
Hi What is the speed Deco support for LAN connection? Does it support 1G?
Cat 5e and above yes, testing speed would be around 600mbps because of device limitations
@@Canada_Facts thank u
thanks bro for this video, i have big house with three deco connecting to the rogers modem.. main deco is just next to the rogers modem and rest others are at separate floor and I have converted into AP mode and Bridge mode is disable in rogers modem.. Issue is very frequent drop off.. any idea what shall I do.. thanks in advance
i have a question, my router its pretty good its a Archer C80 i dont want to use the deco m5 as a router casue i think my router is better, in acces point you think will be better conection? at least?
Yes the connection speed should be ok
Roaming might be problematic depending on distance
I have another video on the two modes that you can watch
Hello friend, I am trying to resolve a double NAT issue and was wondering if just converting to AP mode and then having my device connected to the Deco resolves that or if the mode is irrelevant and I need to change a setting on my router itself?
thanks for the video. Very helpful.
I am using 2xDeco X60, connected to Jio Fiber router. should that router be set to Class routing? (I see only two options there, One is classic other is NAT.
Deco X60 has another issue, everytime it takes a reboot, I need to reconfigure that again. not sure why.
Hi Jay, why put the decoders in AP mode and not mesh? You can configure the main one as AP and from then on all of them as mesh to create a mesh network, wouldn't the network be more fluid?
Hi Jay, great Video explanation. I am currently using 2 Deco X20 connected to my Kaon AR2140 router. Can you advise the best setup connect connect this 2 Decos in home of 3 Storey (Main router is at 2nd floor) with several static and non static devices. I am thinking of setup : Router AR2140 --> MAIN DECO (Router mode) --> Second DECO (AP Mode). this is to take advantage of the features that is supported by Deco in router mode i.e. Monthly report, Antivirus, Connection Alerts, Parental Controls, QoS, and others that is not supported by DECO in AP Mode.
I've got a modem central with router functionality. I have 3 lan kabels to all the areas where i would need an acces point. I have 3 Deco's. Couldn't tell if i would be able to connect all the Deco's via the lan cable to the router and use them as AP's and the router as central wifi point. As i look at your video's in AP mode the Deco's need to be connected to each other via wifi of cable and not via the main modem/router. Am i correct? thanks!
It’s actually not that complicated. My router cable goes into a switch from where 3 cables go to each of the DECO points
Then in app I selected AP mode and one of the points to be the mai deco
Thats it
@@Canada_Facts Yes i did this setup a month ago (Provider modem/router 1 long cable underneath the garden, 1 switch upstairs with 2 cables). The provider modem/router functions as both and the Deco's as AP's. Was worth the try and seem to work perfect! Thanks for your reply.
Thank you. So basically since my ISP modem broadcasts WiFi and I have a small place where the deco will be close to the modem, I should use router mode for seamless roaming.
Hi, I’m in a 3 story condo. My modem/router is connected (via Ethernet) to my main deco on the first floor. The second deco is on the 2nd floor and my third deco is on 3rd floor. What is the best set up? Ap or router mode? I cannot connect decos 2 and 3 via Ethernet
I would prefer router mode if your isp router and main deco are placed together
Ap mode would make sense if your main deco is far away from isp router and AP mode enables you to use both
If they are close router mode would avoid interference. I would also suggest stoping isp router wifi
Hey i think i need some help, i have my arris Modem downstairs and my netgear router in my bedroom upstairs wired to it. however the 2.4Ghz wifi radio doesn't work on it so I set up a spare TP -link wifi extender to run in AP mode wired to my router to use the 2.4Ghz radio on it for my other older devices. I turned DHCP off on both router and extender and they both run in AP mode. This works for like 2 days perfectly no issues then my router just stops working (the feed from the modem works still) I'm not sure weather I'm supposed to change something on my modem or keep the router in router mode with DHCP off or idk man it works.. but why stop working after a while? keep in mind my setup worked fine before attempting to add the TP-link extender but I really need it to work.
Thanks a lot for your video, really helpfull....but im installing deco x20 mesh system on a big apartment, old construction type (big concrete wall, etc.). I am thinking which network architecture to follow. If I connect my main router from my isp to a main switch and from there feed the deco through cable (access point mode). Can I connect through port number 2 to a second deco device? to take advantage of the two gigabit ports of these devices?
Yes you can use the second port for connecting to a device
@@Canada_Facts please confirm I have my main deco wired to my modem, Can I wire from that deco to my second deco or do I take my 2nd deco and wire back to my modem,I’m not real sure how the backhaul works. Do I just continue as a daisy chain, into one port of the Deco and out the next port of the next Deco and so forth, please any help would be appreciated
Hi Jay. My x20 has two nodes. Is one supposed be plugged directly into the wifi router? What happens to the wifi router ? Is router mode using the wifi router at all? (Because it doesn’t show up I their app)
I have 6 decos M5 all in AP mode and all hard wired. I am confused whether the Arris modem/router should be in bridge mode which i understand it to be that its wifi is turned off. Would love to discuss it over the phone with you as you have provided one of the best explanations.
I have 2 deco m5 in ap mode, I have a dlink router as dhcp server ( wifi off). the isp router is in bridge mode. so my decos m5 provide wifi connection, dlink router dhcp only, isp router just have optical fiber cable an provide internet to my dlink router
In AP mode the modem can stay on
How did you made your Roger's modem to bridge mode?
Rogers wifi app has the option
Hi Jay! Thanks for the video, super helpful! Quick question, based on your diagram, can I use 2 switches instead of just 1?
I think you can but try to get the slave decos connected to Main deco through those switches
Can one cable be used for POE and data? I plan to use one port for the modem and the other for power and also to send data to a Cisco switch
I doubt decox60 has a poe port
You can use a switch with poe
@@Canada_Factsthe deco x50 Poe does support Poe I have one port plugged in to the modem and the other is plugged in to the switch no power adapter
Do all deco models can perform as router mode? I have an old deco but seems like only can work as AP mode instead of router
Usually they have the router mode option
Hi Jasdeep, very informative. I am having similar issue, i also have my house hard wired with cat 6 cables. Now, if i want create a separate network on second storey, can i put a router on any hardwired outlet on upper level and create a separate network with connecting directly to service provider modem or it will work on repeater mode.
I tried Huawei ax3 router sold by costco but i am getting security alert msgs from google. Its a separate issue though.
Pls, let me know what do you think.
If you want a second network through your Isp modem so essentially you are talking about access point mode
You could probably hard wore through modem and try to create a new network and it should work
Hi, my sky ISP requires VDSL connection to my TP link router with of course deco does not support. I have set up currently in AP mode. I assume I need to switch off my router wifi but does this set it to bridge mode?
Also is it possible to configure deco in router mode when connected to my main router via LAN
In AP mode you would usually keep your isp router ON and keep the same name of wifi
In Router mode you would use the bridge mode and of isp router
Yes you can configure router mode via Lan but the Lan connection should be between main deco and isp router
From there the Lan connection should go from Main deco to other deco (you van use a switch maybe)
Enjoyed your video thanks for sharing. I have my home and then 2 buildings next to my home and both are connected to my home by 2 ethernet cables each. Would my best option be to run all in AP mode and daisy chain them together? I would like my home and 2 buildings all to be on the same network. I also have two switches in my home to control other wired devices. Would the Deco just plug into the first switch? Hope your channel continues to grow you explain things very well!
so if i do access point mode we will connect to the router's wifi? there will be no "main deco" ssid?
i want my devices to connect to the router but after doing router mode the router has no internet anymore
Use access point and rename ssid to main router ssid
hi mate, so if i just have one x60 plugged into my router and the other 2 x60s using just mesh wirelessly, can i still use the ethernet ports on x60s to plug into TVs?
Yes you can use those ports for connecting to TV or other devices
@@Canada_Facts thanks mate, quality info
Can i use the mesh system by extending the network via ethernet
Yes
Hi, can I connect the x60 to two Internet providers? Reading looks like I have to set it up as Access point in order to do it. If that its possible, do you know how it manages the signal prioritization?
That’s something I am not aware about
Why are you not getting equal download and upload speed?
Theoretically you are right about speed
But it’s not always the case
I have a Hitron modem/router from Cogeco upstairs in an office in the middle of the house which is a bunglow. I have turned off the wifi on the Hitron. I then connected the main deco directly to the Hitron and connected the main deco to 4 switches (8 ethernet in each). I have placed the main deco in the basement at one end of the house and then placed 5 more decos around the house, probably an overkill but 4 upstairs and 2 downstairs). I tried AP and Router mode and not sure which one is better. The main difference is that in AP mode i also have the use of the other 3 Hitron ethernet connection to stay with one network. In the router mode, deco creates its own network so the other 3 ethernet connections on the Hitron are not useful as they belong to a different network. In both cases i am getting very good wifi from the 6 decos. I am currently in the router mode. Have I done this correctly? PS our house is large (3700 sq foot with full basement).
Hi Raj - Thanks for the question
Honestly when it comes to wifi you should only check 2 things - Range (speed across different spots) + Roaming
As long as both check off and you are getting the desired connection it doesn't matter whether you are using AP or Router
Router does provide you Parental, Antivirus and other benefits if you want to keep those
My suggestion would be - try one full week on Ap and other on Router and test the Roaming when moving from one spot to other
If it is same for both then choose either
@@Canada_Facts Thanks, for now I have set it up as Router Mode. I like the fact that i have my own network that i can control. But yes I will try both and see how they perform.
Liked your video. Explains it clearly.
Thank you for this. You are a very good explainer of these types of concepts. I'm glad I found your channel.
Glad it helped you
Amazing! In access point mode mode, can I disable roger router Wi-Fi {bridge mode} and connect to switch then connect to 3 access points? Because my electrical room is far and I don’t want to waste my deck in that area. I’d rather use that in main house
Good question
You will have to try that, I haven’t tried that and not with Rogers anymore
Please post the results too
Hi Jay, As per a lot of other comments you have clarified the wired backhaul config. BUT... in your scenario, what if your Router is a TPlink Router with OneMesh Then you add 2 or 3 Deco's in AP mode with wired Backhaul? Is the WHOLE wifi network seen as one big Mesh? Thats the idea isnt it ??? thanks.
Yes you are right
@Jay Anand hi Jay, thanks for your reply. I bought a deco 3 pac in sale. And it turns out.. we are both wrong! One mesh & Deco mesh are differnt and not compatible with each other. & for those that see this. One mesh does not support wired backhaul.
Hi, in access point mode, can you plug 2 decos into your router via ethernet? I want my router in the middle and the 2 decos on the same network far on either side of the house. Will this work? Thanks
Technically you can but the whole point would be how would the decos perform on the roaming and switchover aspect
@@Canada_Facts thanks. In case you're interested I did actually get it working. Not exactly sure how, but when I set them up I changed to access point mode, then renamed the new network the same as my routers name, and that seemed to do it 🤷 wasn't very straightforward though, and haven't found good instructions anywhere. But it does work
Such a clear explanation. Thank you.
I did notice that certain programs like media servers (eg Emby) only work with Deco’s AP. Someone said it had something to do with GNAT and that Id have to do a double port forward. Does that sound familiar, by any chance?
Thanks for your feedback
Unfortunately not familiar with GNAT
If I may ask, if my modem have 4 ethernet slots, would I be able to plug in 3 of those slots to 3 decos? what would that be, Router or AP? thanks
Ap mode
Router mode is sort of one master deco managing others
@@Canada_Facts so i need to wired connect my ISP Router to Deco A's plug 1 and from its plug 2 to Deco B plug 1 and from its plug 2 to Deco C? Thanks
@@prefetchify ideally from router to one deco
From there if you could connect the other two via switch that’s the best
But your logic should work as well
It’s just daisy chaining
@@Canada_Facts thank you so much for your prompt response. Have you ever tried daisy chaining? Was the result similar or worse compared to using switch?
Wanted to ask, if I use my decos as APs but they are connected to an existing router that isn’t Wi-Fi 6, would I see more benefits from changing my router to a Wi-Fi 6 router? Thank you so much
If they are connected via ethernet to the existing router then no
@@Canada_Facts yes they are. Thank you
Great video. Hope you can help me here. I'm currently using a wifi5 ac modem/router and I'm planning to by a deco wifi6 x series 3-pack mesh and operate it in router mode. With this plan in mind, my question is, can i add a new ssid in the deco app in addition to the main network and the guest network?
What I'm trying to accomplish is:
(1) To connect my auto frequency switching devices like smartphones, ipad, tablet, laptop to the main network(5Ghz and 2.4GHz). Any of my personal devices that has the capability to autoswitch frequency should be on main network to always get maximum speed.
(2) Create a new ssid with 2.4GHz only separate from the main and guest network. Reason: majority of my smart devices such as plugs, lights, switches, etc are working on 2.4GHz frequency only, they were designed with maximum distance in mind and the side effect is that they'll have trouble connecting or reconnecting to an ssid if that ssid name is broadcasting both on 2.4GHz and 5GHz at the same time. They must be on an SSID that is only broadcasting the 2.4GHz frequency so that they won't have issues connecting or reconnecting to wifi. I would prefer my smart devices to be on the same network as main and not isolated.
(3) I want to keep the guest network for guests only. I want to make the guest network isolated from my main network. So i would prefer not to put my smart devices on guest network. Guest network must be isolated so they can't see my devices.
If adding a new ssid cannot be done on deco app, then my top choice would be to let the 2.4GHz smart devices utilize deco guest network as a pure 2.4GHz only and not isolated network.
For the guests, is it possible to turn on deco main wifi6 router mode, deco guest wifi6 router mode and modem/router wifi5 at the same time without causing big interference? Because if yes, that could solve my requirement of having 3 SSIDs. Guests have no right to complain if they are getting wifi5 only.
Follow up question. If the Deco wifi6 x series is operated on ap mode to complement the wifi5 ac router's wifi. Does that mean that deco can only provide wifi5 speeds even when they can support up to wifi6 speeds just because the router is still on wifi5?
Good idea but I am not a 100% about the extra ssid flexibility with deco
Probably contacting tp link would be the ideal solution
For the extra SSID, you need to have a MIMO(multiple input multiple output) router
can you please suggest if this would work?
ISP modem > TP-Link TL-R600VPN SafeStream > Deco (Primary Deco / Connecting via LAN) and configure this as dynamic IP.
And rest two deco connecting via LAN (as back-haul connection using TP-Link TL-R600VPN SafeStream LAN ports)
It looks good setup however not sure why you can’t get plug directly to isp modem
@@Canada_Facts our ISP provided ONU and then on your own router you need to setup PPOE.
Only thing is that I probably would need to disable DHCP on the Safestream and use it as switch I believe
im using DECO X60. although it works using AP mode, problem is it destroys my network, sometimes it suddenly becomes a router itself giving IP addresses even the mode is on AP.
This is definitely a good video but when i used router mode my internet speed and ping was bad soon after setup so i changed to AP now superfast though i dont have the firewall or switch functions i guess. Btw i have modem and I don't own a router does my modem act as router?
I doubt that your modem without a router functionality might be acting like one
Bigger or larger?
I'm glad you did this. Thanks.
hi..i would like to ask your opinion about my setup...i am with rogers internet and have 3 deco m4...my current setup is:
ROGERS MODEM (not in bridge mode and wifi turned off)
--->Main deco (connected to rogers modem by ethernet) (in Access point mode)(broadcasting the wifi i am using)
---->Gigabit switch connected to the main deco by ethernet cable (12 ethernet port switch)
---->2 remaining decos connected to the gigabit switch by ethernet and located at different rooms a good distance away
when i do speed tests there seems to be a big drop off in speeds in terms of hardline connection or wifi if not connected directly to the rogers modem... if a laptop is connected to the rogers modem directly by ethernet i would get almost full gigabit speed but if you connect the same laptop by ethernet to the main deco or the switch or the other remaining deco, i would see a 60% drop off in speed/mbps...
do you think it would be better to use wifi router mode?
do i need to set the rogers modem on bridge mode and the deco in access point mode?or bridge mode modem with wifi router mode?
also, i need to be able to use functions like NAT,port forwarding and parental controls but apparently access point mode doesnt allow these features..
thanks in advance for your help
The issue here is deco M4 does not support Gigabit speeds practically
The higher end deco units line X series are wifi6 and support gigabit speeds
Hello.. My router using mikrotik and then port mikrotik to port 1 main deco1..
And port2 main deco1 to another deco2 port1.. And then port2 deco2 goes to port1 deco3
It's it possible and how about througgput?? This still fine??
Still fine
If that’s the best possible structure then no worries
I always prefer to connect the main deco to slave decos
Hi Jay, super and clear explanation. Quick question here, in router mode my laptop has seamless switch over between Deco's, however for my cell phones (both of them) even though there is switch over between Deco's internet doesn't seem working when it is switched from one to other Deco. I have to manually disconnect and re connect to deco for internet to work. Hence, any suggestion would be really helpful. Thanks in Advance
That usually happens in older devices
You can try forgetting it and setting up the wifi again
what if i cant disconnect my provider router?
You can do that if you can connect directly to deco
I have fibre which connects to modem and can’t connect directly to deco
Thank-you, Jay!
Informative, good job!
Glad it helped
Dear Sir,
If you use hardwire to your deco system then why pay that big cost? Why not setup the same but with normal routers for each room you have
That is a good approach but the problem would be roaming
When the mesh is of the same brand they do smooth handoff
Having hardwire is just like fan vs Air conditioner
Hardwire boosts the speed
But mesh is needed for one common network that supports handoff and roaming
Greetings.. I have an Asus RT-AC87U Router , nearly 7 years old. Over the years my devices have grown and recently added 3 Deco X60 in a mesh configuration as access points with ethernet back haul . I live in a large 5600 sq. ft. , 3 floor home (concrete floors , 12 inch brick walls) . The home is covered by cat 6 cabling , so all heavy media centers ( 1 home theater and 2 smaller setups , all 4K , Netflix , Hotstar , +++) are wired ( TV's , Roku's , 4 K Fire Sticks , Apple TV , NVidia ) . I am into home automation so have a number of 2.4 Ghz camera's , smart devices. I also have a Zigbee set up ( about 34 devices) on a HA server . There would be about 50 + WiFi devices and about 20 + wired devices accessing the internet ( thru the Deco Mesh and some on the Asus Router) . While about 40 devices access through the deco mesh , and 20+ are wired , all the DHCP protocols are handled by the Asus Router . I would like to upgrade the router , to one capable of handling multiple devices. The WiFi coverage is not very important as the Deco Mesh would cover the home . Any suggestions as to the path I should take ? Your thoughts most welcome. I live in Bangalore.
I guess you are looking for wifi router options
If that's the case you can probably extend the decos as a replacement for the Asus
@@Canada_Facts Appreciate your quick reply. My concern is that the main router (Asus or the Deco X60) should have the cpu power to handle 100 + devices as the DHCP will be handled by only one device (router) and not by the access points. The traffic /bandwidth to the internet would get channelized thru the router ,. The WiFi processing would be done by the access points scattered around the home , but ultimately it will be the router linked to the WAN which will do some heavy lifting. Am I correct in my thought process ? If so , what should be my next step !! Look forward to your inputs.
You should change system from Asus+Deco to Mikrotik+Aruba. The best choice for a lot of users
Pls recommend
Which switch u r using easy smart( plug & play) or unmanaged or managed
Pls comment model also
Tp link
8 port gigabit
TL SG1008D
I don't know why but I have had to use Access Point mode in my 2 bedroom Flat, for some reason with Router Mode i was getting a lot of random disconnects during work meetings and online gaming, it was not stable at all, I presumed this was something to do with interfering signals, potentially from my ISPs provided modem but honestly I'm not sure after watching this video because it sounds like I should be using Router mode...
Generally AP mode is more preferred if the two rooms are pretty far and you would not be roaming from one room to other
However if the rooms are close and you end up roaming a lot, I would prefer Router mode
But if the ISP modem causes interference you could turn off the Wifi on that and try
There is always scope for exceptions and best setup is the one which adapts to the layout of your home
This video is incredible thks bro
If youre having problems with router mode, then going to AP brings into question the quality of the router. The router quality isnt a problem in deco router mode because its only acting as a modem to the deco, which is basic functionality for even the cheapest routers. If you're router is high quality and can handle 64+ devices then having the Deco's in AP mode, shouldnt reduce speeds. Be sure to TURN OFF wifi on the main router in BOTH modes and run a LAN cable to the first deco. If wifi is left on in AP passthrough and Access point mode, then you may get interference.
Thank you!
I have exactly the opposite results. AP mode is perfect. Router mode is utterly shit. Extremely high ping, latency and very low speeds.
Thanks for sharing your results. The outcome differs due to a lot of variables like location, setup. I have recently switched to AP for sometime and observing amazing speeds