The recoil trick that made everyone think I was cheating - Recoil smoothing explained
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Hi! I've recently gotten a few comments on my videos about how I seemingly have no recoil when shooting so I thought I'd make a vid explaining this technique ^^ This is just my current understanding of how things work in the game, I don't have any insider info or anything, this is just what I've gathered from my own testing. I hope it's helpful :D
ALSO I DONT USE S TO STRAFE RIGHT I USE AN ALT LAYOUT I JUST FORGOT TO CHANGE IT FOR THE FOOTAGE LOL
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Music:
Untitledmellowbreakcore - vervid!
Midnight - vervid!
Peripherals/Settings
Mouse: OP1we w Weight Mod and Lighter Switch Pack
Mousepad: Artisan Shidenkai xSoft/Artisan Zero Soft
Keyboard: Wooting 60HE Modded
Headset: AKG 702
Microphone: Rode Procaster
Sensitivity: 18 in game, 1600dpi, 85% ads with focal length scaling off
Resolution: 1920x1080 in everything but cs, 1280x960 for cs - Игры
What a lovely teaching style. No filler, just efficient, effective information. Great job!
strafing to aim is a very different concept from strafing to dodge, luckily for me the anti mirror strafing recoil control that ive used in apex for so long just transferred over subconsciously
yeah that happened to me too i just instinctively do it in every fps i play
I've been doing it for years too since I picked it up from Apex. Funny thing is that after a long break from it I didn't remember why I was doing it, but I still kept up the tech. Now that I relearned movement smoothing I think it'll be much more effective as I'll use it consciously,@@past-tense-of-draw
I watched this video a couple days back but I decided I gotta leave a comment. One of the best informative videos I've ever seen on the finals. Went into the range to practice strafing the opposite way. After watching this video and being aware of this mechanic I started to notice a huge difference. Love the music choice and style of video.
It's astonishing to see how fast you can pick up other games. Big respect, keep it up! Looking forward to more The Finals content. Much love from Germany
kvks will do that
@@okctrl yeah true but it getting a life lowkey is a lil better imo
@@okctrlWhat is a Kvk?
@@Saskaruto16 aim trainer
@@okctrl Ah ok. I've never heard of that particular one. I've tried aim hero and aim lab.
imagine shes just hacking and this tutorial is to get people off her tail
aim assist
@@xias212 i dont think you understood the joke
@@xias212 what
care to explain then?@@Jo-Shmo8997
Yeah she's the one you call to kill the hacker on the enemy team
I love when people mention apex recoil and immediately showcase how busted controller is with that shitty game.
Literally why I no longer play that game
u guys realize the finals has stronger aim assist right ?
@@diaperamess i dont think thats true
@@JakeEatNowit’s def stronger as someone who’s played a lot of apex on controller
It’s definitely not, but I imagine it will always be a hotly debated topic by angry KnM players on a losing streak, who have never played on a controller.
As if playing on a controller is easier than MnK, it’s literally point & click with your entire arm rather than stroking thumbpads the perfect half half centimeter while pressing 4 other buttons
legit mindblowing advice had no idea this was in the game even
Wow I’ve watched other vids on people explaining anti mirroring but never was able to figure it out. You giving direct examples with footage this rly helped
holy smoke this tracking is insane
yea thats called aimbot
@@Merkaba954 lol
@@Merkaba954just say you’re bad
Hey Viscose! This probably will come across as patronizing but idk how else to say it. As someone who's old and has seen the start of video games it's truly heart warming and inspiring to see that women like yourself have carved out such an incredible space in such a male-centric hobby. I've got all the respect in the world for what you do, and the calibur of skill you've achieved.
Also, shamelessly hoping you could do a video on proper posture/arm placement. Been playing shooters for decades at this point but am trying to re-learn from the ground up and this is an area I'd love your thoughts on. Liked and subscribed. Cya!
thank u c: its def been tricky but worth it i think, i find what i do rly rewarding and i hope other ppl can learn from it :D
i probably wont do a vid on proper arm placement or anything like that, mostly because im not qualified to do so. everyone whos seen me play irl has been shook LOL. I have my elbow resting on the armrest of my chair and use that as a pivot point for my arm, its what feels the most comfy for me, but most ppl have their elbow on the pad and pivot from that
@@ViscoseOCEwhat chair do you have?
damn these the finals clips are so satisfying
oh thats good to know. I have noticed this sometimes but wasnt sure what it was exactly.
But also something I should not get used to too much as a CS player :D
great video - succinct AND has breakcore in it. first subscribe of the new year!
It's so funny how many apex players/ pros were using this technique and how many casual FPS players thought they were hacking or using rewasd.
Very helpful, I couldn't figure out how the streamers were doing it. Thanks for the info!
WOW just tried this out in the practice range and im mind blown!! thanks for the amazing vid!
Geez your aim is freaking amazing. Thanks for the tips.
God I love your aiming style, haven't found anyone else quite like it. There may be better aimers but yours just satisfis some deep itch in my brain.
Great video, no bullshit, straight to the point, chill vibe, and you’re actually good 👍
My brain only understood the word “recoil”
Actually, she did not explain it very well.
@@匿名-x5m what part did she not explain well? i found it really easy to understand
@@cheyhey2170 The whole part. It was more like a rushed tiktok video than a tutorial.
@@匿名-x5m huh? she explained it quick not leaving out information, but not adding nonsense information
@@cheyhey2170 I wonder what you have learned from this video and found it easy to understand. You understood this video and followed everything to get good at your aim now?
Now I challenge you to summarise the keypoints from this video except recoil smoothing because that's bullshit point at explaining how she manages to snap her aim into enemies accurately. Now all she is saying in the comment section that she has thounds of hours of training in aim tracking. Fine, now ask her to live stream her gameplay with audience interaction. Also, ask her to show mouse movement like in this video if she is dare to do so. Stop arguing if you think she can't do it live.
I'm not accusing her straight away. I'm simply asking her to submit more evidence. Until then, she is considered using aim assitant.
In a lot of games, tac shooters at the top. Bullet spread increases when you are moving. Cod and battlefield as well. So it is only useful in games that aren't penalizing spread when moving.
didn't play a lot of Apex but now that it's mentioned, you definitely can feel it in THE FINALS
Holy im so impressed, raw talent! youve got a new subscriber
thanks love the tips and especially the jungle music so rare to hear in gaming videos
Learn a lot from watching your gameplay and videos in general. Appreciate the detailed content 🫡⚡️ Happy New Year and hope 2024 will be great for you 🥳
Happy new year Viscose❤️
Nice insight on how recoil smoothing works on The Finals vs Apex. I've noticed that sometimes it isn't as smooth, and now I know why.
WAIT... SO THATS WHAT IVE BEEN DOING?
I have been playing this way in the finals and I genuinely had no idea that I was doing it. It's just I how learned to play KB+M from playing CS:GO and Gmod surfing as a kid/teen. Since moving with your mouse aim is just a fundamental part and I never dropped it. I had been wondering why my aim with the revolver is awful, but my aim with the M60, SMG's and other weapons is as close to a laser my hands can manage.
Personal mouse list?
Your aim trainer?
Grip style?
Great footage, you are honestly inspiring.
thank u c:
i play kovaaks, specifically the voltaic s3 benches + scenarios chosen each day to address issues i notice within my playsession
my fav mouse by far is the op1we and i use it with a relaxed claw grip
Really well done video, congrats on it popping off.
Ur aim always gets me excited
"every gun in the game"
*laughs in light sword/throwing knives*
this really helped me when i swapped from controller to mnk
you were shredding my team in power shift so I searched your name up out of anger, now I rarely miss, cant wait for a rematch.
Viscose with another banger 🐱
Commenting for the alg.
Great video - can't believe it took me this long to learn about recoil smoothing. Although I suppose it wasn't really a thing on the games I grew up on. Out of curiosity - any particular reason you prefer the AKM over the FCAR? They're both quite effective, I see people using both more or less interchangeably. Subbed, looking forward to more!
Given your extensive hours in Kovaaks and general aim training it would be cool to see a general aim training video explaining which scenarios helped you improve the most and at what. A lot of people who make aim training videos don't have the aim to back it up.
general scenarios are kinda tricky tbh because i vary what i play so much, but i am working on a video discussing a kovaaks playlist i made for the finals! and i talk a little about how i train in a vid about aim translation which should be out in about a month
@@ViscoseOCEAwesome, I'll keep an eye out for those! I've started taking aim training seriously. While searching for proper training methods/scenarios I stumbled across you and a few other voltaic people and your aim redefines the skill ceiling to me and really motivates me to achieve that level. Looking forward to new content, keep it up!
Tbh I don't think recoil smoothing is a real mechanic that was implemented by devs, it's just a natural consequence of the math for calculating bullet trajectory in a lot of games that if you rotate the origin point while rotating your aim point in the opposite direction horizontal spread is diminished unless it's like CS or valorant that specifically add recoil when moving. There's no vertical compensation due to movement (tested with separate x/y sensitivities) so it adds up to me. The math behind it is kinda intuitive to me so it's a struggle to explain more explicitly but yeah pretty much most games have it to some extent but may not have fast enough strafe speed to utilize
Insanely useful video
Thank so much!!!
I feel like i instinctively do this in every shooter anyway, didn't realise it was actually helping me lol
everybody should watch this before playing the finals
Great video, very informative! Perfect format. I don't think I'll be playing this game or Apex. I prefer when good accuracy comes from fire control, bloom reaction, and character positions that increase accuracy like crouch or prone, at the sacrifice of mobility and entering an exiting position animations.
Sadly, it appears that there has been a massive surge in players using hardware to emulate controllers in order to gain the advantages of mouse and keyboard on top of the AA advantages of using a controller. I've also seen multiple types of software/scripts be used to circumvent recoil all together that are undetectable. The idea of cross-plat was a childhood dream; It's disheartening to see what cross-plat has caused. While some of these devices are technically legal and won't get you banned, it does not mean it's ethical to use them. Good luck to all of you who stream FPS games with honesty and integrity. I don't evny the rat race and the amount of effort one must put into proving to their audience that they aren't cheating these days.
Good video I will try it out the next time I play!
Well, the most annoying thing in the finals is the aimsight insane shake
true, that is basically 100% visual though, i try to aim with my hitmarkers instead of the sights since they always stay centered
its crazy to see how many hack-accusations you're getting here ngl lmao
So clean and good tips!
I just played against you and your aim is insane
I’m playing with you OMG. I’m Optimum
@@acornskie9930 You also played with Struth Gaming! ruclips.net/video/zlNv8dn-qGg/видео.html
So chill and clear nice vid!
thank you, very cool!
(i'm the artist behind "untitledmellowbreakcore" and "midnight")
love ur work
When I play the finals first thing I do is load up Spotify and throw on my BreakCore and Amen-Break/Jungle playlist. It’s like the game was made for it lol
Brilliant information, coming from other FPS games I felt something was "off" about the recoil in the finals. Something about it just felt inconsistent. Sometimes it felt like there was no recoil at all and tracking was easy, sometimes your gun would seemingly go out of control and you're spending all the effort just keeping your crosshair level. Makes total sense now I understand quick horizontal movement dapmens your guns' recoil.
I was just wondering however, in a lot of the clips you used here, you're tracking long range targets that aren't moving very quickly in relation to your view. Am I right in saying that you're not getting much recoil smoothing here despite strafing left and right because you're not moving your mouse fast enough for the smoothing to take effect? I tried testing it out in the range and a little in game and I felt like you only get a good amount of smoothing in close range when your target is able to move quick enough across your view.
I've seen some people talk about moving your mouse erratically while controlling recoil (jitter aiming) to get the same smoothing effect on slower targets. Though from what I've seen of that, it just seems to throw off your aim too much to be worth it. Have you experimented with this at all?
i have tried jitter aiming but didn't think it was overly useful in this game, at ranges it would work smoothing is better and at ranges where it doesnt its too inaccurate imo. generally on the clips where im not moving enough or they are too far, im shooting the latter half of the magazine out where there is very little recoil generally. How i typically shoot is that I start by antimirroring to get the benefits of recoil smoothing then swap to mirroring after around 15 bullets, since the recoil is minimal at that point anyways
Since The Finals is a movement shooter I find myself doing this completely by coincidence.
If someone jumps in at me I'll spam strafe and crouch in order to move my head hitbox around as much as possible, and as a result my character's aim point will move, and my mouse will move to compensate. I never really realized it I just knew that the more I move the more I seem to win gunfights.
The finals is not a movement shooter
@@SpeedKing.. Tell that to the light class.
@@Corzappy so if there's one class in the game with 2 abilities that can affect its movement the whole game is a movement shooter? I swear these apex players call everything that isn't cod and has a slide mechanic a movement shooter nowadays lmao
@@SpeedKing.. Half the game is centered around movement and half is centered around destructibility, which is a means to an end to facilitate movement.
Jump pads, ziplines, grappling hooks, flying platforms, The Finals is a movement shooter, simple as that.
concise and very helpful
it says the game title is call of duty from 2003 in the game title under the description shows this for alot of your videos just a heads up might wanna change it next time you upload
Do you plan on making more informative content like this? I much prefer the way you explain mechs, its very concise and accurate; not much filler or anything unnecessary. This is by far one of the most honest displays of awareness ive seen.
thank u c: and i do! ive got a few ideas lined up but honestly the hardest part for me is knowing what people want to know haha
Thank you so much I've been using the akm over the fcar cos the fcars recoil feels off I tried this method and it feels amazing now
girl, i just started watching this video and im already envious of your voice (wink wink)
????
this girls kind of a beast
My surprise when the title is pretty accurate
please drop an aim routine or something
x.com/ViscoseOCE/status/1746900749186166853?s=20 i gotchu :>
This is really interesting. I'm curious if the new patch today affects this technique or if that only changes things for controller players and those pretending to be controller players.
I only played a couple games last night but it didnt feel different to me at all, should still work!
@@ViscoseOCEdoes this work on controller?
Thanks!@@ViscoseOCE
Great tech demonstration!
Super helpful. I had heard of recoil smoothing but wasn't sure how to use it correctly. What scenes/playlists do you recommend? ive been doing the VT fundamental playlist and was wondering if there were any other good playlists i should run? The other question i had was have you tried the Raiden and what is your opinion on it?
Have you tried the Freefall SV Base mousepad? it's the light blue one. If not I recommend you try it, I'd like to see a review.
awesome video as always viscose
Ngl you are the only female on this platform I’ve seen with crazy good aim. Keep pushin the content out, good luck! :)
thank u, but im def far from the best let alone the only one haha. same to u tho, good luck!
hope this doenst come off wrong but your voice improved a ton this year love your content always look forward 2 it
thank u! i think thats mostly me getting a new mic and getting used to it though haha, i still sound the same c:
Totally not using anything like rewasd...
if i was, it would show controller inputs in the bottom right
Bro she just trained to get this aim
Very useful for sword main
I feel so exposed. how dare you shine a light on this little gem. (not really more people should take sound knowledge of this and implement it if suiting their playstyles)
even just in theory of strafe control, doing this will keep you well versed and active with your movement on another level.
I mean, it's no secret for apex players
@@sharmuuu maybe the top ranks. relatively not known in other communities- when it's pertinent to the gameplay.
it's rather mindblowing that not many people (even apex players) even know or understand what strafe aiming is, i guess that's just what aim assist does to a playerbase
@@Amalia19 with all these remap shenans going on. it will be even less players. by the time virtual controllers have to report themselves before loading all the people who work on this technique will shine.
hail the naturals.
helped me almost instantly cool stuff
thank you for the information miss
I played a lot of apex and the best advice i ever got was to strafe while shooting. The advice albiet was more of an insult at how bad i was but it still helped a lot hahaha GGs
How does one acquire this type of precision and aim good god I’m jealous
i spent a lot of time aimtraining haha
Really nice video! I didn't know that recoil smoothing in The Finals was dependent on the speed you're moving the mouse. Thank you for making this video! Also, from an aimer's perspective, do you think that focal length scaling is something that can hinder your aim or is this something that is dependent on personal preference?
focal length scaling is an interesting one, personally i dont like having it on by default since it massively lowers the sensitivity when ads'd, i prefer to control how much lower it is but i dont think its objectively worse for aiming at all
recoil smoothing is always dependent on mouse speed in every game that it exists. ppl think it's dependent on strafing but strafing just helps, it isn't the reason recoil smoothing activates
i want to aim train every time i see one of your videos. also rate the op1we out of 10 im thinking of getting it and have a similar aim style to urs (just not nearly as good)
Are we going to talk about the fact that weapon sway being only visual is the reason why most of the shots don't hit ?
Damn! already 33 lvl at the recording 😅 I'm pretty sure someone who plays as much will figure things out. I know that guns in medium class are the easiest in terms of recoil control but that full mag going in in some of those shoots is so satisfying to watch :D
0:57 strafe right binded to S :o
still looks sus lol
bc she is cheating. Most of the streamers/pros are.
@dreyga2 are you implying low fov aimbot? her aim is so goof it legit looks like hacking. If it's real then hooooooly.
but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.
@halcyonramirez6469 @DelScully @dreyga2
You are just bad at aiming guys you can clearly see her scores in aimlab/Kovacs she is putting a handcam I'm sorry but you are a just bad at aiming and it's okay she was also bad but she trained you can also achieve that or maybe have a better aim that her .
Beautifully thorough. Btw, what are your thoughts so far on the Shedinkai 2?! I went and bought one partially based on your review in another video.
love it!! ill make a vid discussing it and other glass pads in more depth at some point, but the tldr of the shidenkai is that its my fav pad by far but the durability isnt great and the price makes it hard to recommend, but for the people who will like it its perfect
@@ViscoseOCE ty! looking forward to that vid :D
In apex and the finals I naturally tend to anti mirror instead of mirroring, so the finals recoil didnt really feel like much to me. I do this subconsciously so I didnt know the effect it was having on the actual recoil. Nice vid, I actually love when you upload.
I cant stop staring at that little mouse. Aww look how small is
Does the back of your palm touch against the mouse? assuming you claw your mouse
look handcam
@@xerocies4210 that's not an answer
yep, i use it for stability
Underrated aiming RUclips channel fr 😤
you can also just spam jiggle your mouse to completely remove recoil, the same way you can in Apex.
Ive heard of a claw grip but damn you got a raptor grip
APEX MENTIONED 🗣📣🔥🔥🔥
girls better than mans for guide
Report viscose for ''using chronus on pc'' 🤣 great vidéo
Do u have USA (uniform soldier aim) on bfv ? If yes how much % u use and btw i love ur aim its so crispy and clean
your the reason i have bought 3 spyre pads 😂
Tried this in valorant and now im diamond 3
I understand, but i also dont, but i get it... but words
Which aim trainer you use? I really want to be able to switch to multiple targets in a blink of an eye and shoot them out of the air as well.
thanks, will try this!
Love the video, really encapsulated the feeling I had, which I have now found out, wasnt placebo.
Side question, if you dont mind answering, why do you run lowered ads and no focal whatnot? Im assuming that its varies quite a bit from gun to gun
hey! i turn off focal length by default since i think the numbers for the calculation feel weird at this games hipfire to ads fovs, i prefer to replicate the effect myself with the in game ads sens slider
@@ViscoseOCE oh right on. If you dont mind sharing, what are the ads sens for the different guns? I really like your sens for the ak, but it seems a mite much with the fscar for example
I never knew thanks so much
I want to buy the shindekai but there is not stock for the xsoft, is the soft version ok? Btw ur aim is goated