Soundbars are getting very good, and I enjoy headphones a lot (everyday) but for gaming and movies, I'm all about a legit surround system with full-size speakers. But is that a dying breed?
@@Hogre0knifenut makes a good point but. Ive always been a home theater in a box person but i feel like my speakers should be hidden to better conceal my sound while gettin the full effect but i feel sound bars are just to replace the standard factory tv speakers whereas HTIAB was designed to better increase and enhance your sound quality and performance thats why dolby has the Atmos capable sss (surround sound system)
Hey Caleb, I’ve been into surround sound and home theater since before there was even a such thing as surround sound receivers. Back then we bought out board surround processors and hooked them up to stereo amps. I remember back in the late 80s there were high end boutique audio shops all over the place where I live in NY. Since then all of them have closed and we have a few Best Buy stores that have magnolia showrooms but even that stuff isn’t as esoteric as the older stores. I have kept my system from basic old surround in the 80s to 5.1.4 atmos now. I do not know anybody in my life that has a home theater system. I’ve met other enthusiasts online but I don’t know anybody who has a home theater. Most people I know could care a less about sound. That being said I don’t think home theaters are going anywhere soon. I was 17 when I started this hobby and I’m 50 now. I’ve had laserdisc, supervhs, vhs, dvd, Blu-ray, and ultra 4K Blu-ray and I hope to see a couple more formats before I shuffle off this mortal coil.
The Adjust 3D Audio Profile has nothing to do with intensity. Each option is a HRTF profile that the user should select based on which one sounds best to them. It essentially adjusts the level of how high or low 3D audio sounds relative to ear level
I just picked up a new QN90B with a Bose 600 soundbar. Your tutorials are the best. You explain so many details of why things work they way they work. This is so helpful when applying settings to our specific rooms. Everyone views and plays in different settings with so many mixes of equipment. I can now feel confident my PS5 is setup the way I want it to be and I am not missing anything. The sound now is super.
Home theater surround speakers all day. I'm so thankful your channel actually talks about speakers! Most gamer channels only seem to focus on headphones which can be good, but never as great as the full surround you get from speakers and bass you can feel.
Yup, this all day. I run a full 7.2.4 atmos setup with ceiling speakers. Once you have a setup like this, you can’t go back. I also have a set of pulse explore earbuds that I use just for party chats. I just have one earbud in for chats. 👍🏼
Bad info on choosing DD5.1 or DTS. LPCM is the correct choice as DD and DTS cause audio delay and are lossy. Blu-ray audio playback is handled separately, so you get the best of both worlds.
Interesting, I've actually found that DTS gives no idea delay for me and pcm gives me a little bit. DD gives me alot of delay though. But I actually prefer using DTS now.
Yes. LPCM should be selected. For E-ARC connection to AVR, have to select "Passthrough" instead of "Auto" for it to output 7.1 PCM, at least for my PS4 Pro and LG C9.
Can agree, its been like that when I got my ps5 in December and it's still the same now. I upgraded to a new dolby atmos soundbar for the ps5 specifically and neither dolby nor dts provides synchronized audio. It's not a game thing either, the menu button presses already have this delay
I usually use a headphone (pulse 3D at the moment) but i love using a full speaker 5.1 at least. I love the immersion it provides and games and movies offers every time more quality as time goes by.
I was thinking the same thing. 😂 I'm sorry, but this guy could be the most knowledgeable man in the world, but I can't take this seriously after seeing him play his PS5 with a mask on. You can say that that is more of a "me" problem, and maybe you're right, but still, I literally LOLed when I saw that. And yes, when I say I "literally LOLed", I really did laugh out loud. It's odd I would even have to point that out, but it seems that people who use the word "literally" these days do not understand the definition.
Big fan of your channel. Just an error to correct. The only way to get 7.1 channel surround is to select Linear PCM. The DTS and Dolby formats in this scenario are only capable of up to 5.1 channels. So for the best surround sound if you have eARC or are connected directly to your soundbar/AVR, Linear PCM is the way to go.
If this is true why is it when I'm watching movies with pcm it's so flat and sounds awful? But when I select Dolby it's much louder and the surround sound kicks in. Everyone says you need pcm but it sounds horrible.
@@starsky8351 some systems will replicate the surround and rear channels. It may seem you are listening to 7.1 but if it’s set to Dolby or DTS on the PS5, it’s actually 5.1.
This is one of those videos that I didn't know I needed until I viewed it. I may not have the hardware yet ... *cough ... but now I know what I should be thinking about. Thank you, Caleb.
For audio format, you want to leave it to Linear PCM no matter the type of soundbar or speaker setup you have when it comes to video games. However, when watching a blu ray there’s a separate settings menu in which you’d want to switch the format to bitstream. HDTVTest made a video explaining this.
This is true in theory, but it only really applies if you have an Atmos setup. If you just have a 2.1 or 5.1 (or even a standard 7.1) setup, the best you'd get from bitstream is Dolby TrueHD or the DTS equivalent and those are, theoretically, audibly identical to a PCM stream. On the other hand, sometimes TrueHD has dialog normalization applied, so some might find that better and others might find it worse (though it is objectively different from the studio master). Perhaps more importantly, TVs like the LG C9 (and probably C8 and CX) have an audible lag when using bitstream from an HDMI source, so your audio will be about a second behind your video when using Dolby in particular. In that sense, it's arguably worse to use bitstream if a) you have an LG OLED TV and b) you're not using Atmos or DTS:X anyway.
@@Nunya.Bidness I can’t remember the exact link or article but I do remember reading directly from a game dev that linear PCM was the best setting to use for video games as their audio passthrough works different compared to what you’d be getting out of say a 4K UHD Blu Ray movie. I’d say just try out both and see which one sounds better to you with my experience being Linear PCM being much louder and more clear in games
I'm very happy with the sound on the Ps5, got it hooked to a Samsung Q950T Atmos soundbar and it sounds pretty awesome. During gaming i cannot tell if there's a difference to how it sounds to my Series X, however the 4k bluray player on the Ps5 destroys the one on the Series X, it's quicker, smoother, sharper and reveals more detail and last but not least it sounds fuller. Well done on this one Sony.
For me after a lot of test and errors, finally the perfect sound was to enable the AV enhancement and changing the sound type to DTS, I was playing FF16 and was having a hard time hearing stuff, and now everything sounds crystal clear with a sound bar and without one. Give it a try if you experience some lost audios in-game.
This was an incredibly helpful and useful video I was completely unaware of there being a sound-bar setting on the ps5 and a Dolby option I thought that was automatically done
Hey there I have a question Since my soundbar is only 3.1.2 ch, is there any difference with using PCM and Bitstream? Because it will introduce lag if I use Bitstream Dolby or DTS on my Ps4
Im pretty sure the 3d audio section is not for intensity. It is based on how your ears shape detect the audio’s 3d effect with the different options. Disappointed it wasn’t very touched on this video since it’s one of the playstation strengths in audio.
I was just able to get a ps5 and found this video. I use a 2.1 sound bar for media and I prefer a head set for gaming. My current headset is the Corsair Virtuoso RGB Wireless SE. Thanks for the info in the video.
Thank you!!! I have a Dolby Atmos soundbar and I kept reading that Linear was better. When set to Dolby, it sounded much, much better. I had a very noticeable lag. I solved that by turning the “Pass through” ON, on my tv. My games sound great.
I tried that, it seems like it worked! I kept going back and forth between pcm and Dolby after setting the “ pass through “. Just to see if I noticed lag. I can’t even find the lag anymore and Dolby does sound better. 🤘🤘
Could it be that the soundbar treats passed through LPCM and Dolby with different presets (Standard, Music, Game, etc...) and that's where the difference that you hear is coming from?
After watching your video on the best video setting for the ps5 I dug around in the PS5 settings menu and did exactly what you were suggesting in this video.
SAMSUNG TVs CAN NOT PASS THROUGH LPCM AUDIO AS 5.1 OR 7.1 SURROUND. This is a critical failure as LPCM is the native audio format for games running on the PS5. You can choose Dolby in the PS5 settings but then you have to deal with compressed and delayed audio as the PS5 is converting LPCM to Dolby. Why this is the case is beyond me. No other high end TV manufacturer has this issue. Please Samsung for the love of God release a firmware update fixing this issue. I want lossless surround sound audio when I play my PS5!
Pulse 3Ds are pretty bad sound quality wise. They are very convenient and cool how they integrate with the system but overall they are very meh. I compared them directly to other headsets and headphones I have and they sound the worst by far.
I hook up my Ps5 to my marantz setup 7.4.2 av 8805 pre pro + 2 mm 8077 power amps it sounds beyond amazing , no sound bar is ever going to come close to a real set up like this , I do own a sound bar, but I use it only for listen to relaxing music so we can sleep better at night
I don't think the game audio is natively in dolby or dts. If you select bitstream for game audio, the ps5 encodes the audio into dolby or DTS, so the audio is being compressed. For regular and 4k blurays, you can set the player to bitstream for dolby atmos, dts x, etc.
I use a home theater system and I am anxiously waiting for the update that gives 3D audio support for home theater systems. Also, letting the PS5 decode the audio (Linear PCM) gives you 7.1 audio, while Bitstream Dolby or DTS is stuck at 5.1.
I have a 5.1 surround sound system so PCM didn't work well for me. It wasn't giving me audio dialogue. Possibly because it's trying to send a signal to a speaker that doesn't exist. I'm going to try again tonight, but that was the major issue I had with it.
@@mikesaintjulesmusic you have to select the correct speaker number on your receiver. The receiver is the one that sends the sound to the rights speaker(s) based kn the number of speakers you have. If you have it as 5.1, but you only have 4.1, the center will be silent.
Avr receivers all the way for me, without a shadow of doubt, the sound immersion you feel will never be replicated by a soundbar, any true audiophile will tell you that
Staying up in the middle of the night dozens of times doesn't seem to be adequate because I've tried that since last year. I have a decent gaming PC so I'm leaning towards just waiting until this lunacy isn't necessary to get one.
So if your connecting your ps5 to a tv and then connected via earc to a sound bar that is capable of Dolby atoms your settings should be 1. Output device hdmi tv 2. HDMI device TV. 3. Audio format is Dolby correct? Not dts. I want to make sure I get the Dolby atmos when available. Thank you!
I was usually a headphone person using the Sony XM3. But since i have the A90J. Its acoustic surface audio's surround sound is so good that i'm playing with the sound of the TV now !
Great work guys,videos like that are very helpfull for us,i use those settings now,also from your last video,thank you so much for this,great channel😁😁✌️✌️
Full quality A/V receiver and speakers for sure! Any insight on brands and distributors I should consider for the best set up I can get for under $1,000? Love these videos you guys continue to do. Great job!
Pro tip for ps5 users. If you're using Dolby Bitstream (and likely DTS too) through ARC depending on your setup you can encounter audio lag which is extremely distracting. I fixed it by using a HDMI audio extractor and feeding the optical signal to my 5.1 system. It was driving me nuts but it completely fixed the issue for me. Just make sure you get one that supports 4k 60hz with HDR.
One thing that irks me on the speaker positioning with 7.1 is it doesn't let you designate the rear surrounds as tops instead. I haven't noticed an issue because of it so far, but theoretically you'd get sound that's supposed to reflect something behind you instead coming from overhead if you have a 5.2.1 setup. I can't decide if it's better to go with that, or just select the 5.1 option and let it ignore the top speakers entirely.
Hdmi for 5.1 fiber optic needed for 7.1....wouldn't think hdmi works for 7.1 in my experience but don't really know nowadays. Don't know if this apply to a ps5 don't have one
Hi Caleb, and thanks for the good video. I have a TCL R635, PS5, Vizio M 5.1, and Arctis Steel series wireless. All good, however sometimes when I play the sound will stop in my headphones and go to the controller or TV soundbar, then after a minute or so, comes back to the headphones. Its maddening! LOL. I will double check all my settings again and cable routing. I believe its all the same as how you did it. If you or a fellow user have any insights they would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work and come on 1M!
If you’re using the usb 3.0 ports on the back for your steelseries usb transmitter, try moving it to the front usb 2.0 port instead. There are know issues with the steelseries headsets and 3.0 ports transmitting too much heat to them. I’ve move the receiver to the front 2.0 port and haven’t had the issue re-occur ever since.
Something I learned the hard way. If you have a Sony x900h tv change your earc hdmi setting from standard to advanced so that you can open up hdmi 2.1. drove me nuts wondering why I wasn't getting it.
Onkyo TX-NR6100 paired with Klipsch tower speakers for front left and right, a massive Klipsch center speaker, Klipsch left and right bookshelf speakers for surround rears and a pair of 8" Sonance in Ceiling speaker for Atmos output
**For anyone confused on what audio settings to use** Credit to TZGamer from Reddit: Here you got the answer from a Naughty Dog Dev: The LPCM options will always sound better than DD or DTS options, because the audio doesn't have to be transcoded into another compressed format. The game internally stores audio in a variety of compressed formats (**bleep**, MP3), decompresses it as sounds are synthesized and mixed, and then has to recompress the final result if DD or DTS is selected. If LPCM is selected, that last lossy recompresssion step doesn't have to happen. If you don't have HDMI, LPCM output is limited to 2 channels over the optical output, so you're better off sticking with DTS and DD, in that order (DTS is less lossy than DD). In fact, if you leave the output format setting on 'default', the game will do this for you; the best mode possible is always selected automatically based on the audio settings you've enabled in the PS3 OS XMB. While this answer is 11 years old it is still up-to-date. Another aspect: Even PS5 only allows DTS and Dolby Digital for Games. Which means that you will be limited to 5.1 while PCM supports up to 7.1 channels. Edit: Before someone confuses this with Blu-Rays: For Blu-Rays you always want to select Bitstream. But for that you do not want to select DTS/Dolby Digital in the system settings either. While watching a Blu-Ray on PS4/PS5 you have to use another settings menu that allows you to select "Bitstream". You can open that menu while watching a BluRay only.
Yeah, that all sounds correct. Also, something not really to do with system level sound settings, but I feel it is also worth noting, in many games in which there is a setting to toggle between large or small dynamic range, people generally want to choose small. Large seems like a better choice just from wording, but for those that have subs, small is the ideal choice as it will allow the sub to take all the low end sounds and the other speakers to take care of the rest. If you have headphones or have no sub, that's when large should be selected. If you select large when you have a sub, the low end sounds will also be taxing the other speakers, so your sub isn't doing its full job.
If you have an optical on your tv ,plug optical câble on your tv ,and usb on your ps5 .. (i have an artic pro wireless and works fine ! ), select tchat audio (not all audio) ,select home theater (not sound bar or tv ) ,and 5.1 channel or 7.1 and bilstream dolby (for me i prefer 5.1ch like on ps4 ) ...and chat and sound works very well...and select ps4 on your dac (not ps5 because you loose surround.. select ps5 just if you plug in usb on your ps5 and you choose 3d sound with games compatible with 3d sound like spiderman etc )
I've used an AV receiver and speaker setup for years with my PS4. I'll probably hook up the PS5 directly to the TV and use the toslink cable from the TV to the receiver.
I suggest changing hdmi device type from TV to soundbar. Even if you are only using tv built in speakers. The TV setting might limit the range in some stuff
Not all HDMI 2.1’s are the same. In 2019, LG had HDMI 2.1 on their TV’s that supported 48gbps bandwidth. In 2020, those same TV’s had HDMI 2.1’s that only supported 40gbps. That 8gbps still can run 120hz 4k, but I believe the color bit dropped from 12 to 8.
First thing i notice when wearing my PC gaming headset on PS5 was the quality of sound difference. Sony really hit it out the park with this one. Super crisp sound, I LOVE it
I'm using a ifi zen air dac and some sennheiser hd560s and I find that dts really boosts the quality in the low end and I haven't experienced any audio lag yet
I’ll tell you my frustration. I’ve been looking at a lot of headsets. I would like to setup a true 7.1 surround sound for a headset. I’m not sure how to do it, and if the simple 3.5 jack supports 7.1
7.1 surround can be achieved with just a normal 3.5mm headphone jack if you have the actual headphones capable of it. THX Spatial is different though, you'd need Razer Synapse 3 which is only on Windows 10 PCs. So, if you're console only, 7.1 surround is very much possible with headsets like the Razer Blackshark V2. But you can't utilize the THX Spatial on those unless you also have a PC.
when using tv speakers on a good tv like lg c1, still switch audio device from tv to hdmi in ps5. tv device setting limits bass in some games like uncharted 4 remaster
I find it weird there's no basic left-right balance setting for audio. I hear about 50% less in my left ear and would love an option to balance the audio.
I have a nice Vizio Elevate soundbar system and a Drop/ Sennheiser PC38x headset (also use with PC) and...zero luck acquiring a PS5. Probably stuck with a Pro for at least half of this year or more.
Linear sends uncompress info to the soundbar and the soundbar knows which format to use, so even if we can choose bitstream, it was recommended to live Linea PCM.
I have a similar situation as you and I didn't have to change any of the default options on the PS5. My PS5 is directly plugged into my Yamaha RX-V685. When the receiver is off, Audio/video Passthrough of the AVR takes over and the PS5 goes to 2 channel stereo for the TV. When I turn on the AVR, the PS5 switches to 7.1. So there is an "auto-detect" going on behind the scenes. I am in a situation where I love the surround sound, but others in the house feel it's "too loud" (even though I don't crank it in the least). I am also the only gamer in the house, so about 75% of the time my PS5 gets is for video streaming. That being said, the true intended sound for PS5 is actually the 3D Audio via headset. It's a shame Sony didn't leverage Atmos or DTS:X for games when NOT using headphones. Thank goodness for Microsoft supporting Atmos/DTS:X for games and apps! Sony is working on 3D Audio through TV speakers - the engineers are expanding the "sweet spot" to get 3D Audio via TV speakers before Sony releases the feature. After 3D Audio via TV Speakers is figured out, Sony then said it would work on getting 3D Audio via home theater systems. I guess Sony just wants to reinvent the wheel instead of use what already exists.
Do not use Dolby or DTS for games if you have a soundbar or AV receiver (that support PCM 5 channel) !! PS5 audio is LPCM by default because it renders it in real time, Dolby and DTS is added after and compresses the audio.
@@kevinbruijsten2404 the Tv definitely, because when connecting ps5 to soundbar no delay at all on either format pcm or dolby , earc sends 7.1 lpcm almost perfectly with no delay , the tv keep losing one surround channel when changing resolution on pc or ps5 which is frustrating, need to turn tv off and on always to get the sound right again.
I can confirm, undeniably, that using Dolby (I haven't tried DTS yet) for games gives you slight audio delay over LPCM. My setup is 5.1.2 Klipsch Reference speakers -> Denon AVR-X1600H -> LG OLED C9 (via eARC) The PS5 HDMI goes straight to LG C9, and the C9 carries the sound via eARC back to the Denon AV receiver. My test was in DOOM Eternal (PS5 version). The very first few minutes of the game has the exact same dialogue coming out, at the same time, from both the controller speaker and the Main Speakers. With Dolby, the controller speaker came slighly ahead of the main speakers, and also, let's say, firing the shotgun showed a tiiiny sound delay. With LPCM (still surround 5.1 on my system), ZERO delay between the dialogue that I mentioned, and everything seems to be in sync. Shame, because it did seem that the overall surround and sound quality xperience was more pleasant and immersive in Dolby :( Might be a placebo effect, though. In Dolby, my Denon was even "upscaling" the surround to the Atmos elevation speakers. But...long story short, for gaming, I don't recommend sacrificing audii sync over Dolby, it's not quite worth it because of the delay. LPCM is the way to go. For movies, using Bitstream in the Movie Player's settings.
broooo this is true... I thought I was the only one experiencing this... at times when I'm shooting in warzone...I feel like i lose audio between hitmarkers... but with pcm I don't get the delay ur taking about
I have a kick-ass BOSE soundbar with a separate wireless bass module. Sound is great for everything including gaming but the only way you can get 3D audio on the PS5 is with headsets which I don’t like to use. I’m hoping they come out with 3D support for other external audio devices soon.
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Soundbars are getting very good, and I enjoy headphones a lot (everyday) but for gaming and movies, I'm all about a legit surround system with full-size speakers. But is that a dying breed?
I don't think its a dying thing but i have a theory about companies saying surround sound headset..........but its a long typeout
Not at all, I think more people are buying them now that theaters are leaving. Also seeing alot more 2 channel, 2.1 and 3.1 setups.
@@Hogre0knifenut makes a good point but. Ive always been a home theater in a box person but i feel like my speakers should be hidden to better conceal my sound while gettin the full effect but i feel sound bars are just to replace the standard factory tv speakers whereas HTIAB was designed to better increase and enhance your sound quality and performance thats why dolby has the Atmos capable sss (surround sound system)
Hey Caleb, I’ve been into surround sound and home theater since before there was even a such thing as surround sound receivers. Back then we bought out board surround processors and hooked them up to stereo amps.
I remember back in the late 80s there were high end boutique audio shops all over the place where I live in NY. Since then all of them have closed and we have a few Best Buy stores that have magnolia showrooms but even that stuff isn’t as esoteric as the older stores. I have kept my system from basic old surround in the 80s to 5.1.4 atmos now. I do not know anybody in my life that has a home theater system. I’ve met other enthusiasts online but I don’t know anybody who has a home theater. Most people I know could care a less about sound. That being said I don’t think home theaters are going anywhere soon. I was 17 when I started this hobby and I’m 50 now. I’ve had laserdisc, supervhs, vhs, dvd, Blu-ray, and ultra 4K Blu-ray and I hope to see a couple more formats before I shuffle off this mortal coil.
@@AgonyTheClown so was i like in my PlayStation obe days since i saw tekken 2 then more so in my ps2 days when i had my first dvd player
The Adjust 3D Audio Profile has nothing to do with intensity. Each option is a HRTF profile that the user should select based on which one sounds best to them. It essentially adjusts the level of how high or low 3D audio sounds relative to ear level
I just picked up a new QN90B with a Bose 600 soundbar. Your tutorials are the best. You explain so many details of why things work they way they work. This is so helpful when applying settings to our specific rooms. Everyone views and plays in different settings with so many mixes of equipment. I can now feel confident my PS5 is setup the way I want it to be and I am not missing anything. The sound now is super.
Home theater surround speakers all day.
I'm so thankful your channel actually talks about speakers! Most gamer channels only seem to focus on headphones which can be good, but never as great as the full surround you get from speakers and bass you can feel.
Yup, this all day. I run a full 7.2.4 atmos setup with ceiling speakers. Once you have a setup like this, you can’t go back.
I also have a set of pulse explore earbuds that I use just for party chats. I just have one earbud in for chats. 👍🏼
Bad info on choosing DD5.1 or DTS. LPCM is the correct choice as DD and DTS cause audio delay and are lossy.
Blu-ray audio playback is handled separately, so you get the best of both worlds.
Interesting, I've actually found that DTS gives no idea delay for me and pcm gives me a little bit. DD gives me alot of delay though. But I actually prefer using DTS now.
Yes this is the correct choise.
Yes. LPCM should be selected. For E-ARC connection to AVR, have to select "Passthrough" instead of "Auto" for it to output 7.1 PCM, at least for my PS4 Pro and LG C9.
THIS
Can agree, its been like that when I got my ps5 in December and it's still the same now. I upgraded to a new dolby atmos soundbar for the ps5 specifically and neither dolby nor dts provides synchronized audio. It's not a game thing either, the menu button presses already have this delay
I usually use a headphone (pulse 3D at the moment) but i love using a full speaker 5.1 at least. I love the immersion it provides and games and movies offers every time more quality as time goes by.
I'm a receiver & speakers kind of gamer. Recently upgraded to a Dolby Atmos 5.1.2 with a massive subwoofer. Ceiling speakers are game changing.
PS5 have Dolby Atmos?
Home Theater setup for gaming but later at night I switch to headphones.
Why is he playing with a mask on?!?!....ahh nevermind, he doesn't want to kill the main character's grandma
So nobody will bitch in the comments lol.
No different than the people who drive by themselves with one 😷😂
Someone else in the room with him probably. Maybe behind camera.
I was thinking the same thing. 😂 I'm sorry, but this guy could be the most knowledgeable man in the world, but I can't take this seriously after seeing him play his PS5 with a mask on. You can say that that is more of a "me" problem, and maybe you're right, but still, I literally LOLed when I saw that. And yes, when I say I "literally LOLed", I really did laugh out loud. It's odd I would even have to point that out, but it seems that people who use the word "literally" these days do not understand the definition.
NO SHIT!!
Since the PS5 updated the firmware and added an headphones equaliser the sound has improved greatly
Big fan of your channel. Just an error to correct. The only way to get 7.1 channel surround is to select Linear PCM. The DTS and Dolby formats in this scenario are only capable of up to 5.1 channels. So for the best surround sound if you have eARC or are connected directly to your soundbar/AVR, Linear PCM is the way to go.
If this is true why is it when I'm watching movies with pcm it's so flat and sounds awful? But when I select Dolby it's much louder and the surround sound kicks in.
Everyone says you need pcm but it sounds horrible.
@@Squeebop Audio for movie playback is set in another menu and has nothing to do with the Dolby, DTS and LPCM settings.
@@aalb1970 audio for movies have a seperate menu? I'm not home to check but I don't remember seeing that.
Interesting, as I get 7.1 Dolby with AC Valhalla through eARC no issues
@@starsky8351 some systems will replicate the surround and rear channels. It may seem you are listening to 7.1 but if it’s set to Dolby or DTS on the PS5, it’s actually 5.1.
This is one of those videos that I didn't know I needed until I viewed it. I may not have the hardware yet ... *cough ... but now I know what I should be thinking about. Thank you, Caleb.
My pleasure!
For audio format, you want to leave it to Linear PCM no matter the type of soundbar or speaker setup you have when it comes to video games. However, when watching a blu ray there’s a separate settings menu in which you’d want to switch the format to bitstream. HDTVTest made a video explaining this.
It seems no one is on the same page with PCM vs bitstream. I'm always reading opposite recommendations. Confusing!
can you post a link homie? i wanna see this video.
Can you post a link to it.tried searching but no luck
This is true in theory, but it only really applies if you have an Atmos setup. If you just have a 2.1 or 5.1 (or even a standard 7.1) setup, the best you'd get from bitstream is Dolby TrueHD or the DTS equivalent and those are, theoretically, audibly identical to a PCM stream. On the other hand, sometimes TrueHD has dialog normalization applied, so some might find that better and others might find it worse (though it is objectively different from the studio master). Perhaps more importantly, TVs like the LG C9 (and probably C8 and CX) have an audible lag when using bitstream from an HDMI source, so your audio will be about a second behind your video when using Dolby in particular. In that sense, it's arguably worse to use bitstream if a) you have an LG OLED TV and b) you're not using Atmos or DTS:X anyway.
@@Nunya.Bidness I can’t remember the exact link or article but I do remember reading directly from a game dev that linear PCM was the best setting to use for video games as their audio passthrough works different compared to what you’d be getting out of say a 4K UHD Blu Ray movie. I’d say just try out both and see which one sounds better to you with my experience being Linear PCM being much louder and more clear in games
Ah yes, I wear a mask when I’m in my room alone gaming
Only one? Minimum you should be using a military-grade NBC gas mask and then 3 more masks over the filter. Safety first.
Pretty sure he is not at home, but in the companies studio where they can test multiple devices.
You should, you have contagious thoughts.
Cool!
@@AKSBSU In public, yes. Alone, not necessary.
I'm very happy with the sound on the Ps5, got it hooked to a Samsung Q950T Atmos soundbar and it sounds pretty awesome. During gaming i cannot tell if there's a difference to how it sounds to my Series X, however the 4k bluray player on the Ps5 destroys the one on the Series X, it's quicker, smoother, sharper and reveals more detail and last but not least it sounds fuller. Well done on this one Sony.
For me after a lot of test and errors, finally the perfect sound was to enable the AV enhancement and changing the sound type to DTS, I was playing FF16 and was having a hard time hearing stuff, and now everything sounds crystal clear with a sound bar and without one. Give it a try if you experience some lost audios in-game.
This was an incredibly helpful and useful video I was completely unaware of there being a sound-bar setting on the ps5 and a Dolby option I thought that was automatically done
Hey there I have a question
Since my soundbar is only 3.1.2 ch, is there any difference with using PCM and Bitstream? Because it will introduce lag if I use Bitstream Dolby or DTS on my Ps4
Im pretty sure the 3d audio section is not for intensity. It is based on how your ears shape detect the audio’s 3d effect with the different options. Disappointed it wasn’t very touched on this video since it’s one of the playstation strengths in audio.
I have an LD CX1 hooked up to an Onkyo and use speakers. We enjoyed listening to you, as you confirmed what we did last night!
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I think some of this info is incorrect. HRTF profiles aren't related to intensity, and there was some misinformation surrounding Linear PCM.
I was just able to get a ps5 and found this video. I use a 2.1 sound bar for media and I prefer a head set for gaming. My current headset is the Corsair Virtuoso RGB Wireless SE.
Thanks for the info in the video.
Thank you!!! I have a Dolby Atmos soundbar and I kept reading that Linear was better. When set to Dolby, it sounded much, much better. I had a very noticeable lag. I solved that by turning the “Pass through” ON, on my tv. My games sound great.
I tried that, it seems like it worked! I kept going back and forth between pcm and Dolby after setting the “ pass through “. Just to see if I noticed lag. I can’t even find the lag anymore and Dolby does sound better. 🤘🤘
Thank you for the tips, after couple years only just come to this realisation with a sound bar - god damn!
Could it be that the soundbar treats passed through LPCM and Dolby with different presets (Standard, Music, Game, etc...) and that's where the difference that you hear is coming from?
@DavidGasperoni No, its not like a tv with different pre sets.
After watching your video on the best video setting for the ps5 I dug around in the PS5 settings menu and did exactly what you were suggesting in this video.
I use a 2.1 soundbar, explosions from that subwoofer are insane. I do occasionally use a headset if it's late at night.
What is the exact sound bar?
@@Jayvante LG SL4Y
The "Adjust 3D Audio Profile" is NOT the intensity it is an adjustment so that 3D audio will work better.
Linear PCM is the way to go with AV receiver, especially if you have 7.1 - for gaming.
SAMSUNG TVs CAN NOT PASS THROUGH LPCM AUDIO AS 5.1 OR 7.1 SURROUND. This is a critical failure as LPCM is the native audio format for games running on the PS5. You can choose Dolby in the PS5 settings but then you have to deal with compressed and delayed audio as the PS5 is converting LPCM to Dolby.
Why this is the case is beyond me. No other high end TV manufacturer has this issue. Please Samsung for the love of God release a firmware update fixing this issue. I want lossless surround sound audio when I play my PS5!
Thanks for doing this, I appreciate you.
This is very helpful got a new 5.1 yesterday and still tweaking it..
I’ve always had preferred a god headset and now i’m in love with Pulse 3D, they are so comfortable and have an amazing performance.
Pulse 3Ds are pretty bad sound quality wise. They are very convenient and cool how they integrate with the system but overall they are very meh. I compared them directly to other headsets and headphones I have and they sound the worst by far.
Love these ps5 videos keep em coming
I hook up my Ps5 to my marantz setup 7.4.2 av 8805 pre pro + 2 mm 8077 power amps it sounds beyond amazing , no sound bar is ever going to come close to a real set up like this , I do own a sound bar, but I use it only for listen to relaxing music so we can sleep better at night
Lucky!
@@markiep8477 , thanks
It was 👌like I was expected
Thanks been waiting for this👍🏻🙂
Afraid of that fresh room air 😂😂
😂😂 Bruh
I don't think the game audio is natively in dolby or dts. If you select bitstream for game audio, the ps5 encodes the audio into dolby or DTS, so the audio is being compressed. For regular and 4k blurays, you can set the player to bitstream for dolby atmos, dts x, etc.
It's instant encoding in DD or DTS. Best experience in open world games, like Ghost of Tsushima
Great info thank you
This video would mitigate any concerns of those who are still in the shocks of stock shortage.
Thank god! This vid helped me out a lot. Bitstream sounds so much better then pcm. On my system anyway. PlayStation never replied to me.
Excellent and really informative video❤️👍🔥💯
I use a home theater system and I am anxiously waiting for the update that gives 3D audio support for home theater systems. Also, letting the PS5 decode the audio (Linear PCM) gives you 7.1 audio, while Bitstream Dolby or DTS is stuck at 5.1.
I have a 5.1 surround sound system so PCM didn't work well for me. It wasn't giving me audio dialogue. Possibly because it's trying to send a signal to a speaker that doesn't exist.
I'm going to try again tonight, but that was the major issue I had with it.
@@mikesaintjulesmusic you have to select the correct speaker number on your receiver. The receiver is the one that sends the sound to the rights speaker(s) based kn the number of speakers you have. If you have it as 5.1, but you only have 4.1, the center will be silent.
Avr receivers all the way for me, without a shadow of doubt, the sound immersion you feel will never be replicated by a soundbar, any true audiophile will tell you that
When using Bitstream with my soundbar, I get audio delay. I have to leave it on PCM.
Same I am use a lg cx with sonos Arc, I hear that the audio is better with bitstream dolby, But I get a big delay
Why is my old PS4 headset sounding muffled when playing games on the PS5?
I think the speaker position screen is futureproofing for when they add 3D audio to multi speaker systems. They said they were planning that.
That KEF tower is sick 👍
Can u teach me how to get a PS5 for retail price first?
Staying up in the middle of the night dozens of times doesn't seem to be adequate because I've tried that since last year. I have a decent gaming PC so I'm leaning towards just waiting until this lunacy isn't necessary to get one.
@@AKSBSU it doesn work cuz bots
I was a sound system guy, our house caught fire in January, so now I’m a sound bar , headphones guy
How do I get all sound through my headphones (chat & audio) and also keep the sound on my tv?
Love these. Please keep them up. Would like to see a video about specific headphones for Xbox and PS5.
So if your connecting your ps5 to a tv and then connected via earc to a sound bar that is capable of Dolby atoms your settings should be 1. Output device hdmi tv 2. HDMI device TV. 3. Audio format is Dolby correct? Not dts. I want to make sure I get the Dolby atmos when available. Thank you!
I was usually a headphone person using the Sony XM3. But since i have the A90J. Its acoustic surface audio's surround sound is so good that i'm playing with the sound of the TV now !
Great work guys,videos like that are very helpfull for us,i use those settings now,also from your last video,thank you so much for this,great channel😁😁✌️✌️
Full quality A/V receiver and speakers for sure! Any insight on brands and distributors I should consider for the best set up I can get for under $1,000?
Love these videos you guys continue to do. Great job!
Pro tip for ps5 users. If you're using Dolby Bitstream (and likely DTS too) through ARC depending on your setup you can encounter audio lag which is extremely distracting. I fixed it by using a HDMI audio extractor and feeding the optical signal to my 5.1 system. It was driving me nuts but it completely fixed the issue for me. Just make sure you get one that supports 4k 60hz with HDR.
Pro tip - shouldaboughtaseriesx
@@oshootjoel Mate buy what's in stock at this point 😂
One thing that irks me on the speaker positioning with 7.1 is it doesn't let you designate the rear surrounds as tops instead. I haven't noticed an issue because of it so far, but theoretically you'd get sound that's supposed to reflect something behind you instead coming from overhead if you have a 5.2.1 setup. I can't decide if it's better to go with that, or just select the 5.1 option and let it ignore the top speakers entirely.
Any luck on finding this out? I have 5.1.2 setup and have been looking for a solution since the PS5 was released
Hdmi for 5.1 fiber optic needed for 7.1....wouldn't think hdmi works for 7.1 in my experience but don't really know nowadays. Don't know if this apply to a ps5 don't have one
For gaming, it’s headphones into controller. Family viewing is through TV speakers (85”Vizio)... but I’m getting the Vizio Elevate sooner than later
Thanks!
Hi Caleb, and thanks for the good video. I have a TCL R635, PS5, Vizio M 5.1, and Arctis Steel series wireless. All good, however sometimes when I play the sound will stop in my headphones and go to the controller or TV soundbar, then after a minute or so, comes back to the headphones. Its maddening! LOL. I will double check all my settings again and cable routing. I believe its all the same as how you did it. If you or a fellow user have any insights they would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work and come on 1M!
If you’re using the usb 3.0 ports on the back for your steelseries usb transmitter, try moving it to the front usb 2.0 port instead. There are know issues with the steelseries headsets and 3.0 ports transmitting too much heat to them. I’ve move the receiver to the front 2.0 port and haven’t had the issue re-occur ever since.
Something I learned the hard way. If you have a Sony x900h tv change your earc hdmi setting from standard to advanced so that you can open up hdmi 2.1. drove me nuts wondering why I wasn't getting it.
Onkyo TX-NR6100 paired with Klipsch tower speakers for front left and right, a massive Klipsch center speaker, Klipsch left and right bookshelf speakers for surround rears and a pair of 8" Sonance in Ceiling speaker for Atmos output
I enjoy open back studio headphones for most games and movies
I'm more towards the head set sound but also I love the sound bar system sound
cool video thanks
7.2.4 klipsch setup with svs sub's
**For anyone confused on what audio settings to use**
Credit to TZGamer from Reddit:
Here you got the answer from a Naughty Dog Dev: The LPCM options will always sound better than DD or DTS options, because the audio doesn't have to be transcoded into another compressed format. The game internally stores audio in a variety of compressed formats (**bleep**, MP3), decompresses it as sounds are synthesized and mixed, and then has to recompress the final result if DD or DTS is selected. If LPCM is selected, that last lossy recompresssion step doesn't have to happen.
If you don't have HDMI, LPCM output is limited to 2 channels over the optical output, so you're better off sticking with DTS and DD, in that order (DTS is less lossy than DD). In fact, if you leave the output format setting on 'default', the game will do this for you; the best mode possible is always selected automatically based on the audio settings you've enabled in the PS3 OS XMB.
While this answer is 11 years old it is still up-to-date. Another aspect: Even PS5 only allows DTS and Dolby Digital for Games. Which means that you will be limited to 5.1 while PCM supports up to 7.1 channels.
Edit: Before someone confuses this with Blu-Rays: For Blu-Rays you always want to select Bitstream. But for that you do not want to select DTS/Dolby Digital in the system settings either. While watching a Blu-Ray on PS4/PS5 you have to use another settings menu that allows you to select "Bitstream". You can open that menu while watching a BluRay only.
Yeah, that all sounds correct. Also, something not really to do with system level sound settings, but I feel it is also worth noting, in many games in which there is a setting to toggle between large or small dynamic range, people generally want to choose small. Large seems like a better choice just from wording, but for those that have subs, small is the ideal choice as it will allow the sub to take all the low end sounds and the other speakers to take care of the rest. If you have headphones or have no sub, that's when large should be selected. If you select large when you have a sub, the low end sounds will also be taxing the other speakers, so your sub isn't doing its full job.
Since I own a Steelseries Arctis Pro that uses Optical Out. Had to add HDMI Audio Extractor to get Optical Out option..
If you have an optical on your tv ,plug optical câble on your tv ,and usb on your ps5 .. (i have an artic pro wireless and works fine ! ), select tchat audio (not all audio) ,select home theater (not sound bar or tv ) ,and 5.1 channel or 7.1 and bilstream dolby (for me i prefer 5.1ch like on ps4 ) ...and chat and sound works very well...and select ps4 on your dac (not ps5 because you loose surround.. select ps5 just if you plug in usb on your ps5 and you choose 3d sound with games compatible with 3d sound like spiderman etc )
I've used an AV receiver and speaker setup for years with my PS4. I'll probably hook up the PS5 directly to the TV and use the toslink cable from the TV to the receiver.
That's how I have mine set up now and it works..... getting the C1 this weekend and hoping that it works the same way
I suggest changing hdmi device type from TV to soundbar. Even if you are only using tv built in speakers.
The TV setting might limit the range in some stuff
It's good to have various options for similar products that may cost cheaper.
I have a nice Vizio sound bar and woofer, but that has nothing to the immersion I get with the Pulse 3D headset.
Not all HDMI 2.1’s are the same. In 2019, LG had HDMI 2.1 on their TV’s that supported 48gbps bandwidth. In 2020, those same TV’s had HDMI 2.1’s that only supported 40gbps.
That 8gbps still can run 120hz 4k, but I believe the color bit dropped from 12 to 8.
Currently using a Sony Z9F with the 5.1 rear speakers paired up.
I have the same. It's a great system!
First thing i notice when wearing my PC gaming headset on PS5 was the quality of sound difference. Sony really hit it out the park with this one. Super crisp sound, I LOVE it
For the Sonos Arc soundbar... should I use Dolby or PCM ?
Tbh lg c1 with stand has quite fantastic audio quality. Other than that pulse 3d sounds great. Wireless headphones are great
I'm using a ifi zen air dac and some sennheiser hd560s and I find that dts really boosts the quality in the low end and I haven't experienced any audio lag yet
Thanks, I'm using AVR but just connect PS5 to TV and then TV to AVR with eArc. Turned to Dolby as you suggested.
Thanks
Is 7.1 without Dolby better than 5.1 with Dolby?
How do I get Bitstream on my ps5 it only says dolby
I’ll tell you my frustration. I’ve been looking at a lot of headsets. I would like to setup a true 7.1 surround sound for a headset. I’m not sure how to do it, and if the simple 3.5 jack supports 7.1
7.1 surround can be achieved with just a normal 3.5mm headphone jack if you have the actual headphones capable of it. THX Spatial is different though, you'd need Razer Synapse 3 which is only on Windows 10 PCs. So, if you're console only, 7.1 surround is very much possible with headsets like the Razer Blackshark V2. But you can't utilize the THX Spatial on those unless you also have a PC.
@@bloodbeats yes! Thank you! Any other headsets you’d recommend?
when using tv speakers on a good tv like lg c1, still switch audio device from tv to hdmi in ps5. tv device setting limits bass in some games like uncharted 4 remaster
These audio settings you spoke about have no effect on the disc player.. it says so on the screen.
The settings are simply for games.
Can you please do a video on 7.1 surround sound headphones, and how we would go about setting it up
Please make a video for best ps5 setting with the tcl 6 series 🙏
I find it weird there's no basic left-right balance setting for audio. I hear about 50% less in my left ear and would love an option to balance the audio.
Still haven’t found answers for a setup of 5.1.2. Basically a setup with height speakers. How can those get utilized in games?
I have a nice Vizio Elevate soundbar system and a Drop/ Sennheiser PC38x headset (also use with PC) and...zero luck acquiring a PS5. Probably stuck with a Pro for at least half of this year or more.
Update: It figures I'd say that then finally land a PS5 later that day.
I use a receiver with 2.1, but that's not a selection. Which one would make more sense to pick then, 2.0 or 5.1?
2 channel would be most accurate, your .1 is done by your avr
@@Hogre0knifenut Right. Your receiver will just send signals below a certain frequency to the subwoofer from the stereo signal.
What about soundbar with rear speakers
Where did you buy your tv stand.??
Linear sends uncompress info to the soundbar and the soundbar knows which format to use, so even if we can choose bitstream, it was recommended to live Linea PCM.
I use TV speakers and receiver sometimes, too bad there wasn't an auto setting change?
I have a similar situation as you and I didn't have to change any of the default options on the PS5. My PS5 is directly plugged into my Yamaha RX-V685. When the receiver is off, Audio/video Passthrough of the AVR takes over and the PS5 goes to 2 channel stereo for the TV. When I turn on the AVR, the PS5 switches to 7.1. So there is an "auto-detect" going on behind the scenes.
I am in a situation where I love the surround sound, but others in the house feel it's "too loud" (even though I don't crank it in the least). I am also the only gamer in the house, so about 75% of the time my PS5 gets is for video streaming.
That being said, the true intended sound for PS5 is actually the 3D Audio via headset. It's a shame Sony didn't leverage Atmos or DTS:X for games when NOT using headphones. Thank goodness for Microsoft supporting Atmos/DTS:X for games and apps!
Sony is working on 3D Audio through TV speakers - the engineers are expanding the "sweet spot" to get 3D Audio via TV speakers before Sony releases the feature. After 3D Audio via TV Speakers is figured out, Sony then said it would work on getting 3D Audio via home theater systems. I guess Sony just wants to reinvent the wheel instead of use what already exists.
Do not use Dolby or DTS for games if you have a soundbar or AV receiver (that support PCM 5 channel) !! PS5 audio is LPCM by default because it renders it in real time, Dolby and DTS is added after and compresses the audio.
what is the best configuration for the Sonos ARC + LG CX?
Did you figure it out? Because when I go Bitstream dolby I get a audio Delay, when I go Pcm I don’t
@@kevinbruijsten2404 we all suffer from LG Dolby audio delay , I looked everywhere with no solution at all .
@@saifalsaidi3061 Tnx do you know who is at fault? The Arc, the Ps5 or the Lg CX?
@@kevinbruijsten2404 the Tv definitely, because when connecting ps5 to soundbar no delay at all on either format pcm or dolby , earc sends 7.1 lpcm almost perfectly with no delay , the tv keep losing one surround channel when changing resolution on pc or ps5 which is frustrating, need to turn tv off and on always to get the sound right again.
The sound on my TV went off a year ago, can't replace the TV right now as they cost a fortune for a decent one so I use a soundbar currently.
I can confirm, undeniably, that using Dolby (I haven't tried DTS yet) for games gives you slight audio delay over LPCM.
My setup is 5.1.2 Klipsch Reference speakers -> Denon AVR-X1600H -> LG OLED C9 (via eARC)
The PS5 HDMI goes straight to LG C9, and the C9 carries the sound via eARC back to the Denon AV receiver.
My test was in DOOM Eternal (PS5 version). The very first few minutes of the game has the exact same dialogue coming out, at the same time, from both the controller speaker and the Main Speakers.
With Dolby, the controller speaker came slighly ahead of the main speakers, and also, let's say, firing the shotgun showed a tiiiny sound delay.
With LPCM (still surround 5.1 on my system), ZERO delay between the dialogue that I mentioned, and everything seems to be in sync.
Shame, because it did seem that the overall surround and sound quality xperience was more pleasant and immersive in Dolby :(
Might be a placebo effect, though.
In Dolby, my Denon was even "upscaling" the surround to the Atmos elevation speakers.
But...long story short, for gaming, I don't recommend sacrificing audii sync over Dolby, it's not quite worth it because of the delay.
LPCM is the way to go.
For movies, using Bitstream in the Movie Player's settings.
broooo this is true... I thought I was the only one experiencing this... at times when I'm shooting in warzone...I feel like i lose audio between hitmarkers... but with pcm I don't get the delay ur taking about
Try the “ pass through” on ur tv sound settings. It worked for me. I use Dolby with no lag now. Plus it sounds better than pcm
@@JM-qt5mg I did in the first place... didn't do the job for me :) but thank you for the suggestion! Much appreciated!
I use a Yamaha receiver supposedly update to support HDMI 2.1 and 5.1 in ceiling.
I have a kick-ass BOSE soundbar with a separate wireless bass module. Sound is great for everything including gaming but the only way you can get 3D audio on the PS5 is with headsets which I don’t like to use. I’m hoping they come out with 3D support for other external audio devices soon.