JasonEd7 not all the time especially if you have someone beside you. And electrify America goes up to 350 kw so Audi could upgrade for faster charging and the porshe taycan can do 350 kw
@@markfitzpatrick6692 Audi also has nearly 0 infrastructure setup for such charging stations. Tesla has thousands of super charging stations across all of the US already. It will take years for Audi to roll out all of those stations.
Does anyone know about his destination chargers work? I think I can have one installed almost free for my work. Would it matter which car I get? I’m considering a used leaf or cheapo ecar until Eteon can legally be sold sold again if they can fix safety issues.
BigHeadClan look at electrifyamerica.com. Lots of infrastructure people need to look at the map I could drive a etron from ohio to Las Vegas no problem Tesla has more now because they have had almost 7 years ea has had since 2018 and has a lot of dc chargers. Ionity is doing it in europe
@@markfitzpatrick6692 That is only about 200 charge stations with an average of 4 spots in each location, which average out to around 8-12 charges per state.... Not to mention the website isn't very clear if all of them offer 150 KW charging stations or if all of the locations are CCS charging capable. Adding insult to Injury the E-Tron's total travel range is much shorter than a Tesla's as such it means you are forced to make more frequent stops in order to re-charge and will be more prone to range concerns. VW Group/Audi have been working on the E-Tron for years so they too have had time to expand the network in preparation, and unlike Tesla they have the budget to deploy a network like that very quickly and yet they didn't.
Edmunds information is out of date. Tesla Model 3 still charges faster than the Audi E-tron. A recent real-world DC charging test by Bjørn Nyland clearly showed the Tesla Model 3’s significant charging advantage over the Audi e-tron. Even on a CCS charger, which doesn’t take full advantage of the Tesla’s potential, the Model 3 performs much better. The Tesla Model 3 Long Range adds 179 miles of highway range in 20 minutes, 61% more than the Audi e-tron’s 111 miles.
Even if it could accept power faster than a Tesla (which it doesn't; Tesla can accept 250kW) the measure of fast charging should be in miles of range per hour which it performs even worse at because the vehicle is so inefficient relative to a Tesla.
The Model Y which releases next year gets 300 miles of range for the long range version starting at 47000$. It also has more room inside and quicker charging. Don’t think this Audibis worth it except it’s phenomenal interior
@@BHBeckenbauer no, its not a ford, its a battery seal that on the long run, could stop sealing properly. meanwhile teslas 'autopilot' kill people and no one cares
I saw one with regular plates in my neighborhood, so that means someone must've taken delivery. OTOH, when I went to take my Q8 for a wash last week, all three of the e-tron's they had in their showroom disappeared...
This no doubt will have a better build quality but how does the E-tron redefine fast charging? Firstly you can't get them as they have all been recalled and secondly the 3 can charge at over 800miles an hour. This is far slower
You can’t buy this right now. I’m st the dealership and they say there was a serious safety problem and they cannot sell these right now. They don’t know if they will go back on sale. No surprise I’m being pushed into another car type with a sale that’s “too good to pass up”. I’m stopping at the at Tesla showroom on my way home before I make up my mind. Maybe I should just switch to all Lyft, at least until I make up my mind. No car gas and insurance payment would be nice for a few months.
Cesar Trujillo look at this comparison twitter.com/p_ferragu/status/1136671486108995584?s=21 And som stats twitter.com/ICannot_Enough/status/1137349823445852160?s=20 Or look at supercharge.info and compare to the amount of electrify America chargers...
Nice car but it's no Tesla. 200 miles in average weather is just not enough. In cold weather that will drop to 135. Tesla model S is 370 miles and soon to be 400 according to the latest information from Tesla this week. Glad to see they are cooling the batteries like Tesla. The trick words in this commercial are Standard and Current. They know Tesla has been upgrading all their chargers and is much faster at charging than Audi. But still, it's a great start. Good luck to VW. We need enough EV's to replace all ICEs on the planet. www.tesla.com/models
To early and too expensive! I will let other buyers be the guinea pigs. 5-10 years from now they will have a more reasonable grid and quirks figured out! I appreciate and admire people who are willing to take the risk on such vehicles.
Seems that this Audi is more comparable to the Jag than the Tesla. I think it'd sell quite well with the additional range (say 300 miles) and quicker charging capability. But it's a good effort IMO. The interior is well done and has the Audi electronics that are so positively reviewed (once the driver has a handle where everything is!). And I think that blue is excellent on it.
Yes, B minus for the "effort"... The Audi wins in 2-3 categories like fit and finish and subjective "luxury". Any Tesla wins the 42 other categories, hands down.
How much leg room in the driver's seat? Looked kind of tight. Would love to get an all electric car in two years, so will check this one out when that times comes. Thanks for the review.
Imagine a world where there are millions of electric cars on the road, each taking an hour or more for charging. Now imagine the enormous size of recharging stations on a highway with line ups of thousands of cars waiting for an empty station. Electric is not the future of the automotive world unless they can get distances up to 400-500 miles and charging times to less than 15 minutes. It's just a logistic impossibility.
Better looking and better designed than Tesla. 200 miles is enough range for daily commute. Fact is even 250 miles won't give you the same freedom as a hybrid or gas engine car in longer trips. This SUV is more spacious and larger than the Tesla. The slightly shorter range is a good compromise.
The Audi wins in 2-3 categories, like fit and finish and perceived "luxury", all of which are highly subjective. The Tesla Model 3 objectively wins in the other 42 categories. Like range, acceleration, efficiency, energy density, over the air updates, Supercharger network, Autopilot, aerodynamic, safety, infotainement, charge speed, regen, and the list goes on. In what universe the E-Turd is not an inferior product to any Tesla???
This video shows the Tesla Model 3 can charge at 1200km/h (745 MPH) from empty to around 55% faster than the e-tron. And because it is more efficient, can charge for 20 mins and have 236 Miles of range, you can leave while the Audi has to keep charging until 40 mins to go its max range 235 miles . ruclips.net/video/PPrVZtzAqX4/видео.html After 20 mins of charging 1) Tesla at 70% charge ; Range = 392 km ( 236 miles ) (Same as E-tron max range lol) 2) E-tron at 63% charge ; Range = 242 km ( 150 miles ) Conclusion: when it comes real world charging speed Tesla wins.
In the real world, you can't find a non-Telsa 150 kw charger anywhere other than the NJ Turnpike and the bay area. My LRRWD Tesla 3 charges faster than the E-tron with the current 125kw Tesla Superchargers.has 120 more miles range and cost 30k less. The all-new 250kw V3 Tesla chargers will be far faster. They will charge 150 miles in 10 min. The Etron is a quality product with outdated technology.
VW/Audi are masters of deception. All the capacity of the etron battery is not fully available, so while they may say it charges fast to a certain percentage that's not actually true, because you're only charging the part of the battery that's available. When it says it's for example 80% full it's more like 65%. A more reasonable(and usable) measurement than percentage(which again in Audi's case is fake) is how many miles you charge per hour. All Tesla cars charge more miles per hour than the etron, in fact the Model 3 charges more than twice as many miles per hour. That said the etron seems to be a good car. It's just too bad its EV powertrain is so inferior.
Alan Bowers Audi has locked a big portion of the battery, that's a big part of the range being so bad. The other is the poor efficiency. And no, battery size has nothing to do with miles per hour. Only charging power and the cars efficiency. If you have a highly inefficient car like the etron it doesn't help much if it charges at high power. You need both an efficient car and high power to charge at high miles per hour, such as a Tesla. A Tesla Model 3 can charge at about 1600 mph, while an etron can only reach about 400 mph.
tali sson charging a battery from a low charge to around 80% will charge faster (more miles per hour of charge time) than from 80-100% though. Audi may have a slower rate dependent on other factors, but in general EVs will gain more miles in a given time than when they are near capacity.
Alan Bowers that’s why Audi aren’t honest about the battery capacity. It looks much faster to display 150kw between 0-80% than 0-65% which it really is. Tesla could have done a similar thing if they wanted to look like they’re charging fast. But they’re not, instead they fokus on miles per hour and great efficiency which is what really matters.
At $70,000 to only go 200 miles is a JOKE!! And then Audi goes cheap on you - they can't even include the at-home fast charger for that price. They want you to pony up more money if you want that special charger. Pppfffttttttttttttttt! NO SALE, Audi!!! Oh, and let's not forget the RECALL because of risk of spontaneous FIRE!!
Tesla has many recalls for all kinds of reasons. That's why they need the OTA updates; they just can't get the software right. Also, the price of a Tesla doesn't include an in home charger. Pppffffffffffffffff!
@B J They have been saying that for 10 years. The Tesla Y is 4 generations better than the Etron. Forget about the current X and the redesigned X coming that will charge at 250kw and have well over a 350-mile range.
True if that's all you care about. If you care about build quality, attention to detail, comfort and general luxury then Tesla fails. Most people don't care about 0-60 time. As long as you are still talking about range in an EV they all fail. That's why EVs are still for early adopters and will be for several more years.
@B J Its really not the case. Teslas have more range, are more efficient, they're faster, has a super charging network, etc. And the Model X is bigger than this, roughly the same price, and has all the things I mentioned above. Ignoring the fact that the Audi is lacking in the electric car market won't change anything
I am sorry but the comment at 1:00 is not correct. Tesla V2 superchargers are outputting 150kw and V3 are up to 250kw
JasonEd7 not all the time especially if you have someone beside you. And electrify America goes up to 350 kw so Audi could upgrade for faster charging and the porshe taycan can do 350 kw
@@markfitzpatrick6692 Audi also has nearly 0 infrastructure setup for such charging stations. Tesla has thousands of super charging stations across all of the US already. It will take years for Audi to roll out all of those stations.
Does anyone know about his destination chargers work? I think I can have one installed almost free for my work. Would it matter which car I get? I’m considering a used leaf or cheapo ecar until Eteon can legally be sold sold again if they can fix safety issues.
BigHeadClan look at electrifyamerica.com. Lots of infrastructure people need to look at the map I could drive a etron from ohio to Las Vegas no problem Tesla has more now because they have had almost 7 years ea has had since 2018 and has a lot of dc chargers. Ionity is doing it in europe
@@markfitzpatrick6692 That is only about 200 charge stations with an average of 4 spots in each location, which average out to around 8-12 charges per state....
Not to mention the website isn't very clear if all of them offer 150 KW charging stations or if all of the locations are CCS charging capable. Adding insult to Injury the E-Tron's total travel range is much shorter than a Tesla's as such it means you are forced to make more frequent stops in order to re-charge and will be more prone to range concerns.
VW Group/Audi have been working on the E-Tron for years so they too have had time to expand the network in preparation, and unlike Tesla they have the budget to deploy a network like that very quickly and yet they didn't.
Edmunds information is out of date. Tesla Model 3 still charges faster than the Audi E-tron. A recent real-world DC charging test by Bjørn Nyland clearly showed the Tesla Model 3’s significant charging advantage over the Audi e-tron. Even on a CCS charger, which doesn’t take full advantage of the Tesla’s potential, the Model 3 performs much better. The Tesla Model 3 Long Range adds 179 miles of highway range in 20 minutes, 61% more than the Audi e-tron’s 111 miles.
Even if it could accept power faster than a Tesla (which it doesn't; Tesla can accept 250kW) the measure of fast charging should be in miles of range per hour which it performs even worse at because the vehicle is so inefficient relative to a Tesla.
Yeah, that 160 miles mentioned in this video for 30 minutes can be 20 minutes or so in a Tesla.
Here's a good idea instead of the test track how about city streets and bumper to bumper traffic like most of use every day.
The Model Y which releases next year gets 300 miles of range for the long range version starting at 47000$. It also has more room inside and quicker charging. Don’t think this Audibis worth it except it’s phenomenal interior
I think you have the only one currently in America. Everyone I know who has ordered one of these has been put on indefinite hold.
alliejr i believe there’s been a recall/hold due to a fire risk
@@BHBeckenbauer no, its not a ford, its a battery seal that on the long run, could stop sealing properly. meanwhile teslas 'autopilot' kill people and no one cares
I saw one with regular plates in my neighborhood, so that means someone must've taken delivery. OTOH, when I went to take my Q8 for a wash last week, all three of the e-tron's they had in their showroom disappeared...
Now who’s laughing about the gigafactory 😂
I was able to verify that over 500 of them have been delivered WORLDWIDE.
This no doubt will have a better build quality but how does the E-tron redefine fast charging? Firstly you can't get them as they have all been recalled and secondly the 3 can charge at over 800miles an hour. This is far slower
Exactly and precisely. Nothing beats Tesla, period.
You are wrong. Tesla’s V3 supercharger is faster and is already running.
Where is the closest V3 Supercharger to Seattle? There are 6 Electrify America stations with 150 kW chargers within 30 miles of my house.
You can’t buy this right now. I’m st the dealership and they say there was a serious safety problem and they cannot sell these right now. They don’t know if they will go back on sale. No surprise I’m being pushed into another car type with a sale that’s “too good to pass up”. I’m stopping at the at Tesla showroom on my way home before I make up my mind. Maybe I should just switch to all Lyft, at least until I make up my mind. No car gas and insurance payment would be nice for a few months.
Cesar Trujillo look at this comparison twitter.com/p_ferragu/status/1136671486108995584?s=21
And som stats twitter.com/ICannot_Enough/status/1137349823445852160?s=20
Or look at supercharge.info and compare to the amount of electrify America chargers...
B J Audi/VW = liars and manipulators. Remember that. Also, the etron is now at risk of catching fire due to faulty wiring.
Nice car but it's no Tesla. 200 miles in average weather is just not enough. In cold weather that will drop to 135. Tesla model S is 370 miles and soon to be 400 according to the latest information from Tesla this week. Glad to see they are cooling the batteries like Tesla. The trick words in this commercial are Standard and Current. They know Tesla has been upgrading all their chargers and is much faster at charging than Audi. But still, it's a great start. Good luck to VW. We need enough EV's to replace all ICEs on the planet. www.tesla.com/models
204 miles of range??? And how much does this car cost?
To early and too expensive! I will let other buyers be the guinea pigs. 5-10 years from now they will have a more reasonable grid and quirks figured out! I appreciate and admire people who are willing to take the risk on such vehicles.
Seems that this Audi is more comparable to the Jag than the Tesla. I think it'd sell quite well with the additional range (say 300 miles) and quicker charging capability. But it's a good effort IMO. The interior is well done and has the Audi electronics that are so positively reviewed (once the driver has a handle where everything is!). And I think that blue is excellent on it.
Yes, B minus for the "effort"... The Audi wins in 2-3 categories like fit and finish and subjective "luxury". Any Tesla wins the 42 other categories, hands down.
MpGe?
Skip to 0:52
Audi Etron = Drive slow + charge Fast = 204 miles of range 🙈
Tesla Model X = Drive Fast + Charge slow = 325 miles of range 😎
How much leg room in the driver's seat? Looked kind of tight. Would love to get an all electric car in two years, so will check this one out when that times comes. Thanks for the review.
good assesment - loved watching it.
Imagine a world where there are millions of electric cars on the road, each taking an hour or more for charging. Now imagine the enormous size of recharging stations on a highway with line ups of thousands of cars waiting for an empty station. Electric is not the future of the automotive world unless they can get distances up to 400-500 miles and charging times to less than 15 minutes. It's just a logistic impossibility.
DANG! This dude is not gentle reviewing this car.
Much preferred to “fanboy” reviews.
Can't call it the gas pedal or "throttle," it will take some getting used to but let's go with "go pedal."
The word you're looking for is "accelerator"...
Better looking and better designed than Tesla. 200 miles is enough range for daily commute. Fact is even 250 miles won't give you the same freedom as a hybrid or gas engine car in longer trips. This SUV is more spacious and larger than the Tesla. The slightly shorter range is a good compromise.
The Audi wins in 2-3 categories, like fit and finish and perceived "luxury", all of which are highly subjective.
The Tesla Model 3 objectively wins in the other 42 categories. Like range, acceleration, efficiency, energy density, over the air updates, Supercharger network, Autopilot, aerodynamic, safety, infotainement, charge speed, regen, and the list goes on.
In what universe the E-Turd is not an inferior product to any Tesla???
Shifter as a hand-rest “all day long”?
I would love an electric minivan
I used to look up for Audi and now this is their take on the EV market? So disappointing.
Tahoe???
This video shows the Tesla Model 3 can charge at 1200km/h (745 MPH) from empty to around 55% faster than the e-tron. And because it is more efficient, can charge for 20 mins and have 236 Miles of range, you can leave while the Audi has to keep charging until 40 mins to go its max range 235 miles
. ruclips.net/video/PPrVZtzAqX4/видео.html
After 20 mins of charging
1) Tesla at 70% charge ; Range = 392 km ( 236 miles ) (Same as E-tron max range lol)
2) E-tron at 63% charge ; Range = 242 km ( 150 miles )
Conclusion: when it comes real world charging speed Tesla wins.
In the real world, you can't find a non-Telsa 150 kw charger anywhere other than the NJ Turnpike and the bay area. My LRRWD Tesla 3 charges faster than the E-tron with the current 125kw Tesla Superchargers.has 120 more miles range and cost 30k less. The all-new 250kw V3 Tesla chargers will be far faster. They will charge 150 miles in 10 min.
The Etron is a quality product with outdated technology.
VW/Audi are masters of deception.
All the capacity of the etron battery is not fully available, so while they may say it charges fast to a certain percentage that's not actually true, because you're only charging the part of the battery that's available. When it says it's for example 80% full it's more like 65%.
A more reasonable(and usable) measurement than percentage(which again in Audi's case is fake) is how many miles you charge per hour.
All Tesla cars charge more miles per hour than the etron, in fact the Model 3 charges more than twice as many miles per hour.
That said the etron seems to be a good car. It's just too bad its EV powertrain is so inferior.
That's really something to think about
Don’t all EV manufacturers do that? And miles per hour of charging is variable dependent on current capacity of the battery too.
Alan Bowers Audi has locked a big portion of the battery, that's a big part of the range being so bad. The other is the poor efficiency. And no, battery size has nothing to do with miles per hour. Only charging power and the cars efficiency. If you have a highly inefficient car like the etron it doesn't help much if it charges at high power. You need both an efficient car and high power to charge at high miles per hour, such as a Tesla.
A Tesla Model 3 can charge at about 1600 mph, while an etron can only reach about 400 mph.
tali sson charging a battery from a low charge to around 80% will charge faster (more miles per hour of charge time) than from 80-100% though. Audi may have a slower rate dependent on other factors, but in general EVs will gain more miles in a given time than when they are near capacity.
Alan Bowers that’s why Audi aren’t honest about the battery capacity. It looks much faster to display 150kw between 0-80% than 0-65% which it really is.
Tesla could have done a similar thing if they wanted to look like they’re charging fast. But they’re not, instead they fokus on miles per hour and great efficiency which is what really matters.
Where is your earnest review?
Liar liar pants on fire, Tesla charges much faster.
Audi👍👍👍
Amazing car 😍😍😍
Étron means turd in French
Hi
At $70,000 to only go 200 miles is a JOKE!! And then Audi goes cheap on you - they can't even include the at-home fast charger for that price. They want you to pony up more money if you want that special charger. Pppfffttttttttttttttt! NO SALE, Audi!!! Oh, and let's not forget the RECALL because of risk of spontaneous FIRE!!
B J There have only been a few instances, I can bet Audi’s eletric vehicle will sooner or later catch on fire as well
Tesla has many recalls for all kinds of reasons. That's why they need the OTA updates; they just can't get the software right. Also, the price of a Tesla doesn't include an in home charger. Pppffffffffffffffff!
SJM I agree that for the S and X they should, but the 3 and Y are much cheaper so the cost is justified.
@B J They have been saying that for 10 years. The Tesla Y is 4 generations better than the Etron. Forget about the current X and the redesigned X coming that will charge at 250kw and have well over a 350-mile range.
@@sjm7518 We get a charger 220 volts up to 40 amps. The 50 Amp Wall charger is optional.
Let me get this straight, it has less range than Tesla, slower than Tesla, and many year later. Epic fail for me too Audi
True if that's all you care about. If you care about build quality, attention to detail, comfort and general luxury then Tesla fails. Most people don't care about 0-60 time. As long as you are still talking about range in an EV they all fail. That's why EVs are still for early adopters and will be for several more years.
Go Audi etron
Mark Fitzpatrick more like Audi 💩 (look up the word étron in French)
Why are you on a Audi review if you don’t like it . Do you waist time attacking cars you don’t like?
Lol! The real deal!
That interior looks so cheap. They can’t even put one big LCD panel same as Tesla or RAM. Beyond disappointing.
haha Tesla is not the first in mind when it comes to build qulaitylol
@B JHow are we scared?
Get an old dude to review bleeding edge technology. Okay!
This makes a Tesla look cheap
Will obviously be WAY over priced - NO SALE
@B J Its really not the case. Teslas have more range, are more efficient, they're faster, has a super charging network, etc. And the Model X is bigger than this, roughly the same price, and has all the things I mentioned above. Ignoring the fact that the Audi is lacking in the electric car market won't change anything
Entirely false. The Tesla Model 3 charge must faster than the E-Turd.