Golden advice: if you need to creep towards the charger, always use eco drive setting. This changes the sensitivity of the accelerator. I always change when i need to manœuvre on tight places
Great video and much thanks for doing the stats..I just did a quick look review on a friends 2021 Audi e-Tron Sportback and was very impressed with it and the charging curve both Audi and Porsche have engineered into their vehicles. Real world in winter is the worst case scenario so to get 230kms at all highway speeds in -10C temps IMO, is pretty good. To be honest my 2020 Tesla Model 3 LR does not do too much better than that in reality. Keep up the great work!
Greetings from Finland. Sorry to see what happened to the bumper. Waiting for my e-tron to be delivered soon. Thanks a lot for the video! Now I know what I should expect for a ski trip to Lapland in Feb
I always use the regular, *non-wide angle* front camera. Even though it requires an extra key-press if you park nose in. Then you can see exactly how close the front lip is to the object. Maybe Kris did, it can of course still happen.. Just a tip for you and others who are new to the e-tron. Hope you have a lot of those Finnish Kempower chargers.. 😉 ruclips.net/video/EmuIolKO0qo/видео.html Congratulates with the car. Think you will be super happy with the range in real life, mixed driving. Keep us posted!
Dude, our BEV has charge port in same location. If there is nobody around, we park perpendicular to the parking space lines to get close without so much cable strain. But usually we are only ones at site.
The connection problem is also due to the connection pin (CP) being a bit shorter than the other pins (look on the car, you will notice it righjt away once you know :-) ). This is to make sure that connection is always broken before the DC pins are unplugged. Therefore there's no risk of the plug being powered while unplugged. Fastned chargers here in NL also had that problem.
Yeah, same problems in germany too. I often park like a true a..hole to come as close to the cable as possible. My chargeport was recently changed due to a recall, but the problem persists, so we stand in Rain, Ice and Snow besides our cars and hold a cable. Somewhat ridiculous but it is as it is.
It is not good for Lithium batteries to be be sitting overnight at 100%. Optimal is if you have home charging to set your departure time and have it alget to 100% just prior to departure and also set preheating of the cabin.
Yes Kris; do a few more of these. We are in MN, and once we get this Model Y (thanks for responding on that yesterday!), this information will be very helpful. Have a great day!
Hard driving to heat up the battery doesn't seem to have any effect on E-Tron from my testing using Obdeleven to monitor battery temperature. Regarding the claim that E-tron will only actively heat the battery if it is below -10 deg. C, I would guess that is battery temperature, not ambient temperature. AFAIK the source of this claim is an official VAG/Audi self study program manual/PDF for employees/staff. It would be nice to have known your battery temperatures on that Ionity charge session.
I feel for you bro!!! I would be so upset if that happened to my E Tron (the damage, I don't have an Etron, wish I did :-P). I'm surprised they don't have a creep function. Wonder if they could add one in via a software update. Speaking of which, have you had any updates since you've had the car via OTA or by going back to the dealership?
Sad to see your car damaged :( But I don't understand why.. You're standing there alone, with that horrible chargeport location, why do you park in the lines? Park a little off-set or at an angle will give you a lot more cable to work with, or you don't have to park that close..
@Kris: I would really apreciate if you do the same kind of charging test with the e-tron 50. Even if the difference in charging speed between the 50 and the 55 is not so extremely significant in summer temperatures, it seems like the 50 does not have the same ability to get the same increasing of speed during the charging session in cold weather as the 55 has.
Kris, very sorry to hit your eTron, just know one of the very first thing we did was enable Auto-Hold .. this way the call does not rollback when you let off the brakes, and moving off auto-hold slowly is very easy .. best of luck .. Great 👍 content as always .. keep them coming..
Nice video, thank you. Relating to the highest “structure” in the world, it’s radio station in Gliwice, Poland. It’s 111m. Mjøsa is the highest “building” 😎😉
Hi Kris. You were unlucky with the car in the beginning. I live in Gudbrandsdalen the place is Vinstra today 6 January we have minus 22 degrees Celsius. I got my new electric car December 4 Volvo XC40 Recharge P8. It uses a lot of electricity now in minus 20 degrees Celsius. It will be a few more days with freezing cold.
My favorite thing was the dashboard said “confronting Nate”, I’m thinking that your car knows you are going to do an intervention on a friend? (I’m sure it makes sense in norwegian)
In Switzerland we have same issue with those chargers but here this chargers called MOVE. Its soo annoying the cable are sooo short, a lot of people complain but nothing changes.
So how much range, percentage wise, do you lose? Sorry about your bumper! Wow that sucks. They should cover those steel barriers with a firm foam of some sort.
Please beware of the fact that your ending point is about 100 meters (300 ft) higher than your starting point. Doesn't sound like a lot, but the road from Dal to Oslo includes a lot of rolling/regen/easy terrain. To illustrate this, Bjørn used only 6%, (about 4,2 kWh) on the last 34 kms of this stretch last week, in the 2021 Model 3 LR. ruclips.net/video/FqGR6X5Wfhc/видео.html That's a net consumption of only 123 Wh/km. Even if you doubled that, it would bring your average down. 🙂 Other than that, great video and well documented. 👍 Yes, we want more! What about a test with less motorway? like a mountain run from Ionity Øyer-Dombås-Folldal-Venabygd-Ionity Øyer? I think you can make it, 334 kms, if it gets a bit warmer. However, as long as you get to Kiwi Venabu, 265 kms. you can always roll down to Ringebu and bail out. Or, you can start/end at Ringebu.. Easier to do, but a little less spectacular; Sandvika-Hokksund-Haglebu-Flå-Sandvika, 270 kms.
I cant play the audio of the video but i dont understand why some people are disliking the etron? Is there something wrong? I know batteries drop a bit in the winter but does it take extra time to charge? Anyways i barely go in trips in the winter so im completely fine with not a lot of battwry since i drive in the city
I have an audi s4 avant , my car is always parked outside and, in winter, sometimes we get a kind of freeze where i can barely get my car door open in the morning; I wonder how the charge port cover will do, almost like I hope there is some heating element to keep it from freezing shut?
Thanks Kris for this test just what i needed to see, as i often drive the same road that you did the test on and at the same speed, so for me a perfect test 🙂👍. As i’m getting a dog i have started to look into the e-tron and it seem’s to be the correct car until something more efficient comes on the market (in that size). Har to let my Polestar PP go, but let’s hope Polestar 3 will have a bigger trunk 🤪
Could be due of cold battery with high battery resistance, either loosing most of the effect or BMS saying NO. From what I can gather from related T-Bear charge-ranting. Needs more data 🥰
@@kompost1 You are correct. I started charging with a completely cold car. Shockingly, I need near 30 hours to have a full charge. The slow charging port is useless in winter here.
TeslaBjøinn 2 the rescue: ruclips.net/video/2qvCxjX_cYc/видео.html Most likely, your starting with a way too cold battery. (Guessing) and the car will focus on heating it before adding voltage. Audi UI sadly does not have an indicator of battery temp. Perhaps an audi-compatible OBD (11?) dongle can give you that info
From personal experience the car will get around 275-290 km at lower average speed (75-80km/h avg) with temps around -15C. Can't give you an exact kWh / 100km number, but it' was around that this past winter, including some elevation gain / loss and depending upon weather.
Another great video Kris. Wow this is the first time I see an E-tron parked properly in front of 1 charger and not in the middle of two chargers...So annoying for the rest of ev drivers here in Norway... I hope Audi places the charging port differently in future models. It will benefit all of us , Audi and non Audi drivers. Godt nyttår!
Do you use comfortheating to get the cabin warm, before connecting to a charger ? Seems there's no way to heat up the battery when standing out overnight; a preheated battery will load faster.
You get used to it - it's a bit like driving a standard manual transmission. You can also touch the throttle very, very gently and the car will move forward exceptionally slowly. Does take a bit of practice and if you even blip the accelerator, it will jump for sure. But you can move the car at an incredibly slow speed. But like all EVs it also has a lot of mass, and hence momentum!
You have the extra heater in your etron? Would love to understand if this is only improving the speed of heating up or also helps with the consumption.
All Norwegian 55s should have the double (10kW) heat pump as standard. Only imported editions have 5kW. (I assume) I have still to see a Teslabjōnn-approved test on its efficiency.
@@audivisual In Germany now 1,09 Euro / Kwh, the german gouverment will kill the e-mobility www.golem.de/news/plugsurfing-kilowattstunde-bei-ionity-kostet-bald-1-09-euro-2012-153066.html t3n.de/news/plugsurfing-ionity-preise-diesel-1347444/
Golden advice: if you need to creep towards the charger, always use eco drive setting. This changes the sensitivity of the accelerator. I always change when i need to manœuvre on tight places
Great video and much thanks for doing the stats..I just did a quick look review on a friends 2021 Audi e-Tron Sportback and was very impressed with it and the charging curve both Audi and Porsche have engineered into their vehicles. Real world in winter is the worst case scenario so to get 230kms at all highway speeds in -10C temps IMO, is pretty good. To be honest my 2020 Tesla Model 3 LR does not do too much better than that in reality. Keep up the great work!
Greetings from Finland. Sorry to see what happened to the bumper. Waiting for my e-tron to be delivered soon. Thanks a lot for the video! Now I know what I should expect for a ski trip to Lapland in Feb
I always use the regular, *non-wide angle* front camera. Even though it requires an extra key-press if you park nose in. Then you can see exactly how close the front lip is to the object. Maybe Kris did, it can of course still happen.. Just a tip for you and others who are new to the e-tron. Hope you have a lot of those Finnish Kempower chargers.. 😉 ruclips.net/video/EmuIolKO0qo/видео.html Congratulates with the car. Think you will be super happy with the range in real life, mixed driving. Keep us posted!
Dude, our BEV has charge port in same location. If there is nobody around, we park perpendicular to the parking space lines to get close without so much cable strain. But usually we are only ones at site.
The connection problem is also due to the connection pin (CP) being a bit shorter than the other pins (look on the car, you will notice it righjt away once you know :-) ). This is to make sure that connection is always broken before the DC pins are unplugged. Therefore there's no risk of the plug being powered while unplugged. Fastned chargers here in NL also had that problem.
Yeah, same problems in germany too. I often park like a true a..hole to come as close to the cable as possible. My chargeport was recently changed due to a recall, but the problem persists, so we stand in Rain, Ice and Snow besides our cars and hold a cable. Somewhat ridiculous but it is as it is.
Ouch that damage bumper hurts. It's a good thing you don't keep your cars too long :)
Could you do this test that so you charged the car last night and start the test next morning with a totally cold car and battery?
It is not good for Lithium batteries to be be sitting overnight at 100%. Optimal is if you have home charging to set your departure time and have it alget to 100% just prior to departure and also set preheating of the cabin.
Yes Kris; do a few more of these. We are in MN, and once we get this Model Y (thanks for responding on that yesterday!), this information will be very helpful. Have a great day!
Hard driving to heat up the battery doesn't seem to have any effect on E-Tron from my testing using Obdeleven to monitor battery temperature. Regarding the claim that E-tron will only actively heat the battery if it is below -10 deg. C, I would guess that is battery temperature, not ambient temperature. AFAIK the source of this claim is an official VAG/Audi self study program manual/PDF for employees/staff. It would be nice to have known your battery temperatures on that Ionity charge session.
I feel for you bro!!! I would be so upset if that happened to my E Tron (the damage, I don't have an Etron, wish I did :-P). I'm surprised they don't have a creep function. Wonder if they could add one in via a software update. Speaking of which, have you had any updates since you've had the car via OTA or by going back to the dealership?
Sad to see your car damaged :(
But I don't understand why.. You're standing there alone, with that horrible chargeport location, why do you park in the lines? Park a little off-set or at an angle will give you a lot more cable to work with, or you don't have to park that close..
indeed; also my experience
Good info, as I am purchasing an E-tron next week.
@Kris: I would really apreciate if you do the same kind of charging test with the e-tron 50. Even if the difference in charging speed between the 50 and the 55 is not so extremely significant in summer temperatures, it seems like the 50 does not have the same ability to get the same increasing of speed during the charging session in cold weather as the 55 has.
Kris, very sorry to hit your eTron, just know one of the very first thing we did was enable Auto-Hold .. this way the call does not rollback when you let off the brakes, and moving off auto-hold slowly is very easy .. best of luck ..
Great 👍 content as always .. keep them coming..
Nice video, thank you. Relating to the highest “structure” in the world, it’s radio station in Gliwice, Poland. It’s 111m. Mjøsa is the highest “building” 😎😉
Is that made out of wood?
Hi Kris. You were unlucky with the car in the beginning. I live in Gudbrandsdalen the place is Vinstra today 6 January we have minus 22 degrees Celsius. I got my new electric car December 4 Volvo XC40 Recharge P8. It uses a lot of electricity now in minus 20 degrees Celsius. It will be a few more days with freezing cold.
The same test on the XC40 P8 drops tomorrow at 09.00 CET 😊
My favorite thing was the dashboard said “confronting Nate”, I’m thinking that your car knows you are going to do an intervention on a friend? (I’m sure it makes sense in norwegian)
In Switzerland we have same issue with those chargers but here this chargers called MOVE. Its soo annoying the cable are sooo short, a lot of people complain but nothing changes.
So how much range, percentage wise, do you lose? Sorry about your bumper! Wow that sucks. They should cover those steel barriers with a firm foam of some sort.
Please beware of the fact that your ending point is about 100 meters (300 ft) higher than your starting point. Doesn't sound like a lot, but the road from Dal to Oslo includes a lot of rolling/regen/easy terrain. To illustrate this, Bjørn used only 6%, (about 4,2 kWh) on the last 34 kms of this stretch last week, in the 2021 Model 3 LR. ruclips.net/video/FqGR6X5Wfhc/видео.html That's a net consumption of only 123 Wh/km. Even if you doubled that, it would bring your average down. 🙂
Other than that, great video and well documented. 👍 Yes, we want more! What about a test with less motorway? like a mountain run from Ionity Øyer-Dombås-Folldal-Venabygd-Ionity Øyer? I think you can make it, 334 kms, if it gets a bit warmer. However, as long as you get to Kiwi Venabu, 265 kms. you can always roll down to Ringebu and bail out. Or, you can start/end at Ringebu.. Easier to do, but a little less spectacular; Sandvika-Hokksund-Haglebu-Flå-Sandvika, 270 kms.
It’s my understanding you can turn on a creep function on the E-tron it’s just off by default
Which EV is the best for cold climates though? I want EV options to recommend to people in cold climates!
BMW phev gets 6.7l per 100km (at -30 degrees Celsius) with 13kwh battery & 550km range.
I cant play the audio of the video but i dont understand why some people are disliking the etron? Is there something wrong? I know batteries drop a bit in the winter but does it take extra time to charge? Anyways i barely go in trips in the winter so im completely fine with not a lot of battwry since i drive in the city
Broken front; 2020 is serving some bonus tracks
😂😂😂🙈
I have an audi s4 avant , my car is always parked outside and, in winter, sometimes we get a kind of freeze where i can barely get my car door open in the morning; I wonder how the charge port cover will do, almost like I hope there is some heating element to keep it from freezing shut?
Thanks Kris for this test just what i needed to see, as i often drive the same road that you did the test on and at the same speed, so for me a perfect test 🙂👍. As i’m getting a dog i have started to look into the e-tron and it seem’s to be the correct car until something more efficient comes on the market (in that size). Har to let my Polestar PP go, but let’s hope Polestar 3 will have a bigger trunk 🤪
Excellent review. How much do you pay for a full charge in Europe ?
Is there any function showing us the coming chargers on the road? Like I heard some from Tesla do! Thank you
Is this E-tron 55? You should always write E-tron 55 in the video title instead of only E-tron.
My E tron is not working well with my slow charging port at home when the temperature dropped to -15 degrees here.
Could be due of cold battery with high battery resistance, either loosing most of the effect or BMS saying NO. From what I can gather from related T-Bear charge-ranting.
Needs more data 🥰
Have you tested out in the same conditions, but with 30min preconditioned battery?
@@kompost1 You are correct. I started charging with a completely cold car. Shockingly, I need near 30 hours to have a full charge. The slow charging port is useless in winter here.
TeslaBjøinn 2 the rescue: ruclips.net/video/2qvCxjX_cYc/видео.html
Most likely, your starting with a way too cold battery. (Guessing) and the car will focus on heating it before adding voltage.
Audi UI sadly does not have an indicator of battery temp.
Perhaps an audi-compatible OBD (11?) dongle can give you that info
Can you do the same test at 90 km/t ?
34 KWh/100 km is at 110-120 km/t
You were doing 124 km/t at one point.
From personal experience the car will get around 275-290 km at lower average speed (75-80km/h avg) with temps around -15C. Can't give you an exact kWh / 100km number, but it' was around that this past winter, including some elevation gain / loss and depending upon weather.
Another great video Kris. Wow this is the first time I see an E-tron parked properly in front of 1 charger and not in the middle of two chargers...So annoying for the rest of ev drivers here in Norway... I hope Audi places the charging port differently in future models. It will benefit all of us , Audi and non Audi drivers. Godt nyttår!
Audi already did it with two platforms: MEB (Q4 e-tron) and PPE (Q5-Q9 and A5-A9) - the charging port on the rear.
Do you use comfortheating to get the cabin warm, before connecting to a charger ? Seems there's no way to heat up the battery when standing out overnight; a preheated battery will load faster.
Where’s the winter jumper from? 🙂
Not good E Tron rolls back! our little BMW i 3 holds well but big blind spot up front. Thank you for your good work #buzzofftoxic #ChangeWedsday
You get used to it - it's a bit like driving a standard manual transmission. You can also touch the throttle very, very gently and the car will move forward exceptionally slowly. Does take a bit of practice and if you even blip the accelerator, it will jump for sure. But you can move the car at an incredibly slow speed. But like all EVs it also has a lot of mass, and hence momentum!
does it have neutral, go Flintstones style
What did you have the climate control on at?
You have the extra heater in your etron? Would love to understand if this is only improving the speed of heating up or also helps with the consumption.
All Norwegian 55s should have the double (10kW) heat pump as standard. Only imported editions have 5kW. (I assume)
I have still to see a Teslabjōnn-approved test on its efficiency.
The 🚘charging port should be at the back like ID3. So its more near the end of the🚘
Not a good solution from audi imo.
Volvo x 90 test
230 km max range in normal winter conditions in Norway...? 🥶🤐
And I thought 30kWh with my MX would be much 😂
Kris Rifa what you pay at ionity ?
1.85NOK/kW + ~200/month subscription (min 1 year) is the standard pricing for etron owners in Norway
@@kompost1 18,5 cent ?
What @stig Lau said 👌
@@borabora8757 yes ~18,5 Eurocent per kW and ~20 EUR per month subscription. We pay 31 Eurocent here in Austria 🇦🇹
@@audivisual In Germany now 1,09 Euro / Kwh, the german gouverment will kill the e-mobility
www.golem.de/news/plugsurfing-kilowattstunde-bei-ionity-kostet-bald-1-09-euro-2012-153066.html
t3n.de/news/plugsurfing-ionity-preise-diesel-1347444/
is this the 55 version or the 50?
55 👌
Park side way next time when charging 😊
This car seem like an expensive test that Audi sold. Tesla made it's battery tech available to companies but ego got in the way.
No front camera?
paid upgrade!
What e tron model ?
E-tron 55
really unfortunate accident. Had also one : my antenna was pulled out when a garage door shut whilst I was driving in.
Petrol wins💪
144 miles. Lol😢
This etron is shit 36kwh/100km is Crazy with 100km/h