I know I’m commenting on a two year old video, but the scissors on the Swiss Spirit MX have that type of spring and they stay still when in use. P.S. love your videos mate, cheers!
I love my Bokerplus, have an Atlas and Tech tool mini 2, so obviously the same would go for Ruike/Sanremnu as they're basically the same. But both of these in reality are comparable to the Farmer X which is better. and more compact..I hardly ever need a corkscrew so discounting that, I'm more likely to need a can opener though albeit occasionally...and anyway I use the Vic can opener as a Phillips SD far more than opening cans, and I just wouldn't want to use that Boker weird angled belt cutter thing as a screwdriver...and finally it's much bigger and chunkier than a Farmer X. But it does have a belt clip. I did look at these and had found one second hand but unused at a good price, less than I paid for my Farmer X, but I still opted for the Farmer X despite the steel not being as good and it having no beltclip. Honestly I don't find the Victorinox steel as bad as people make out as far as edge retention is concerned.
ruclips.net/video/6wKXDb25Nag/видео.html I bought an LD51-b and modded it to include a toothpick and straight pin, also reset the plier river to eliminate the excess play.. but in the end, I found it inferior to the Victorinox. Don’t get me wrong, It was good, and a few things were better than my SAK (one hand open, g10 scales, easy to mod and a belt clip). It wasn’t as smooth as my SAK, the scissors were inferior… the pliers moved when closed as a function of its spring, the Philips head was over polished and lacked sharp edges and even the bottle opener was off on its geometry and didn’t work well…. So I sold it and bought a red farmer X I still like it, I just wish it was a little better than it was…
There is one more thing you should consider, that is that some plases (countries) the lenght and the lock funktion and the one hand opening of the blade has influence on the legalety of the knife.
I have the Sanrenmu SRM WA751-A1 and the SRM 741-A1 (it does not have a saw) and they are very similar to the Ruike, but with the size of the Boker, also the Boker has a different finish on the handles, and as you say the quality of steel must be better. Excellent tools, a little bulky but nothing out of this world, a different touch from the Victorinox ones. But for 17 dollars that I paid for each one of them, I can't complain about anything. Greetings.
When pressure is applied to the torsion bar its storing a twisting energy the scissors are flipped so the opposing forces that's fight back when the scissors are closed are going in opposite directions between the 2 ..ones fighting with the backspring of the knife the other isn't..but you might be able to modify the shape to the point that it might not matter and that will stop it too as long as the arm of the scissors takes more force to move then tension bar stores. ...thank you for the upload I always enjoy your videos
Next I'm going for the Victorinox 111mm Workchamp. It has a metal saw and file that I use allot. It's the perfect set of tools for me. I'm ordering a set of black scales for it since I dislike the red altogether. Wish I could find a blue set in stock. Good videos tho, I've been watching many of them.
Nice review. I considered Boker aka Ruike aka whatever name there is also for it, but they didn’t have version with Philips screwdriver. They had but it was discontinued, probably by French and similar countries that are drinking wine a lot, which turns out to be true also with Victorinox. Other than that the weight was considerably bigger than Victorinox has. That one handed opening blade I don’t think it is anything important in other cases than fighting for your life. Shape of the blade is strange for me and I prefer much better not so much rounded that part in the tip area , again Victorinox wins. Also missing more normal flat screwdriver substitute like Victorinox has can opener, not mentioned small flat screwdriver on Handyman. Saw is nice but after having metal file in the first place. However I admit Boker looks great and if number of functions is satisfactory than it’s good choice and quality. Over years I carried Tinker I slightly regret that I didn’t use at least Tinker Deluxe since I now carry Handyman in front pocket without any problem.
@maxlvedc Check out the Ruike M51 and the Ruike M61. The scissor is entirely different on these models despite being the same size. The M61's scissor is like the LD42B's. Also they have the toothpick unlike the Boker.
I own the LD51, I like it better than my Victorinox Handyman but I need a file. And if I want a file I am forced to get the smaller M61 with a 2.7" blade while the LD series is 3.25". They need to make a LD61 because that would have everything I need. I also like the pocket clip on the ruike compared to victorinox. I looked at the Bokers but wasnt overly impressed with the setups and options.
I actually just picked up the Boker Tech-Tool 7 when you posted about it a few days ago. I prefer the smaller size mainly because I don't need as big a knife, since I'll almost always be pairing it with one of my folding knives. The Ruike just seems like it would be too big, especially when I'd still carry another "main" blade.
A few months back, I was looking for an EDC outdoor multi tool for use in the garden. I have worked as a groundskeeper in the past, so I wanted something that could do a number of different kinds of pruning tasks. I looked over both of these models quite a bit, but ultimately settled on the Victorinox Fieldmaster, which is the Huntsman with a Philips driver in place of a corkscrew. I’m very happy with the Fieldmaster. Are there some things I wish it had? Sure. Does it have tools that rarely, if ever, get used? Sure. But out of everything available on the market right now it seems to be the best performer. Have you done cut tests with the saws? I’d be very curious to see how well they perform next to Victorinox’s saw.
By the way... I have not seen you do a review on the 111mm victorinox series, have I missed it maybe? The Hercules in particular or the Workchamp, both seem superior to the 91's. Plus they lock.
The "M" series Ruike which is a much closer comparison to the Boker as you stated is my favorite knife. quality on par with the Boker for far less money. The "L" series is hard to find for certain models. the LD is awesome knife too.
well done :D, pls have the comparison item with it , if possible, I love the 111mm locking folding SAKs. is that saw truly bigger than the 130mm? Id love to know , ty Great work, pls more :D
,,,,I take the Victorinox Huntsman (for Fieldmaster) plus a good Bushcraft Fix-Blade knife .....I like the blade from the Ruike and the saw, and the tweezer, but price on Amazon for the Ruike is a little bit steep compared to the Victorinox (yes, I get it, it uses a better steel ... but then the Victorinox has at least a can opener....).
I have a böker tech tool city 4 And the sisser does not move! Holds completely still! I do however have a a newer tech tool. The one with a nice böker shield on the scale. I choose the böker over the ruike, for size. I have small woman hands, and the böker is just right. The ruike would have been my first choice, if it was smaller And I prefer it over all my victorinox knives.
I have a couple of boker tech tools, the pocket clip and the bigger thicker blade is a step up from victorinox when you have stupid knife laws. The ruike just looks too big for what it is.
Probably already commented by someone but... Why why why not a one hand opening blade on the small one??? Then of course... The secondary blade / screwdriver weird open position is very bad, even dangerous if used as screwdriver, actually!
Would not the larger compare more to the victorinox soldier or one hand trekker even though those models don't have the scissors, there is the saw, locking screwdriver, one hand opening and locking blade at a much larger size compared to the 91mm sak models.
@@maxlvledc yes, there are sak models that have the scissors but not with the same configuration as the ruike you presented and the one hand trekker has the Phillip's instead of the corkscrew, one work around I've used in the past is carrying a vic classic on my keychain, I think you've touched on doing just that in past videos where you were highlighting a multitool with no scissors.
Nice comparison. The scissors look identical to me...Might vary tool to tool? Maybe you just got a "bad" one?....with "bad" meaning, still fine and functional, and to specs,......but not perfect.
That wierd flathead and curved serrated blade is a total turn off for me! It makes the flathead so awkward to use... and i need it more than a rescue cutter... so i stick to SAKS!
Ruike and Boker ..... If the manufacturer replaces the scissors, and when assembling the knife, a remote washer is installed under the clasp ring (the ring roughly scratches the tool next to it), then Victorinox may close its production. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO! I repeat, you are the most valuable blogger in the English-speaking segment of RUclips, and in the European segment your colleague is diezelle57. Ruike and Boker..... Если производитель заменит ножницы , и при сборке ножа , под темлячным кольцом будет установлена дистанционная шайба (кольцо грубо царапает инструмент рядом с ним), то Victorinox может закрыть свое производство. СПАСИБО ЗА ВИДЕО! Повторюсь , Вы самый ценный блоггер в англоязычном сегменте RUclips , а в Европейском сегменте Вашим коллегой является diezelle57. 👍👍👍
@@maxlvledc Ahh - that makes sense. Thanks for the info'. I have a few Sanrenmu folding knives & they are excellent, & I consider Sanrenmu to be an excellent brand
I know I’m commenting on a two year old video, but the scissors on the Swiss Spirit MX have that type of spring and they stay still when in use. P.S. love your videos mate, cheers!
I love my Bokerplus, have an Atlas and Tech tool mini 2, so obviously the same would go for Ruike/Sanremnu as they're basically the same. But both of these in reality are comparable to the Farmer X which is better. and more compact..I hardly ever need a corkscrew so discounting that, I'm more likely to need a can opener though albeit occasionally...and anyway I use the Vic can opener as a Phillips SD far more than opening cans, and I just wouldn't want to use that Boker weird angled belt cutter thing as a screwdriver...and finally it's much bigger and chunkier than a Farmer X. But it does have a belt clip. I did look at these and had found one second hand but unused at a good price, less than I paid for my Farmer X, but I still opted for the Farmer X despite the steel not being as good and it having no beltclip. Honestly I don't find the Victorinox steel as bad as people make out as far as edge retention is concerned.
ruclips.net/video/6wKXDb25Nag/видео.html
I bought an LD51-b and modded it to include a toothpick and straight pin, also reset the plier river to eliminate the excess play.. but in the end, I found it inferior to the Victorinox. Don’t get me wrong, It was good, and a few things were better than my SAK (one hand open, g10 scales, easy to mod and a belt clip). It wasn’t as smooth as my SAK, the scissors were inferior… the pliers moved when closed as a function of its spring, the Philips head was over polished and lacked sharp edges and even the bottle opener was off on its geometry and didn’t work well…. So I sold it and bought a red farmer X
I still like it, I just wish it was a little better than it was…
Just got my ruike LD~51 and so far I really like it. Kinda big but I don’t mind.
There is one more thing you should consider, that is that some plases (countries) the lenght and the lock funktion and the one hand opening of the blade has influence on the legalety of the knife.
I have the Sanrenmu SRM WA751-A1 and the SRM 741-A1 (it does not have a saw) and they are very similar to the Ruike, but with the size of the Boker, also the Boker has a different finish on the handles, and as you say the quality of steel must be better. Excellent tools, a little bulky but nothing out of this world, a different touch from the Victorinox ones. But for 17 dollars that I paid for each one of them, I can't complain about anything. Greetings.
Very nice comparison! I need to look at both product offerings. I would like a version without the corkscrew.
The RUIKE is our choice, the weight difference make no disadvantage in carrying either. Both product is worthy of being an EDC item.
please also in metric system. size and weight
Just what I was looking for.
I was eyeing up the ruike this morning looking for a work knife
It's a BEAST just a little heavy but very capable.
When pressure is applied to the torsion bar its storing a twisting energy the scissors are flipped so the opposing forces that's fight back when the scissors are closed are going in opposite directions between the 2 ..ones fighting with the backspring of the knife the other isn't..but you might be able to modify the shape to the point that it might not matter and that will stop it too as long as the arm of the scissors takes more force to move then tension bar stores. ...thank you for the upload I always enjoy your videos
Wow! Great insight! Also the most modern Boker is reversed like the larger ones
Next I'm going for the Victorinox 111mm Workchamp. It has a metal saw and file that I use allot. It's the perfect set of tools for me. I'm ordering a set of black scales for it since I dislike the red altogether. Wish I could find a blue set in stock. Good videos tho, I've been watching many of them.
Nice review. I considered Boker aka Ruike aka whatever name there is also for it, but they didn’t have version with Philips screwdriver. They had but it was discontinued, probably by French and similar countries that are drinking wine a lot, which turns out to be true also with Victorinox. Other than that the weight was considerably bigger than Victorinox has. That one handed opening blade I don’t think it is anything important in other cases than fighting for your life. Shape of the blade is strange for me and I prefer much better not so much rounded that part in the tip area , again Victorinox wins. Also missing more normal flat screwdriver substitute like Victorinox has can opener, not mentioned small flat screwdriver on Handyman. Saw is nice but after having metal file in the first place. However I admit Boker looks great and if number of functions is satisfactory than it’s good choice and quality. Over years I carried Tinker I slightly regret that I didn’t use at least Tinker Deluxe since I now carry Handyman in front pocket without any problem.
Excellent video!
The correct thing would have been to compare with Ruike's M42-B model.
@maxlvedc Check out the Ruike M51 and the Ruike M61. The scissor is entirely different on these models despite being the same size. The M61's scissor is like the LD42B's. Also they have the toothpick unlike the Boker.
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So that's it, plus it's going in the opposute direction.
I own the LD51, I like it better than my Victorinox Handyman but I need a file. And if I want a file I am forced to get the smaller M61 with a 2.7" blade while the LD series is 3.25". They need to make a LD61 because that would have everything I need. I also like the pocket clip on the ruike compared to victorinox. I looked at the Bokers but wasnt overly impressed with the setups and options.
I actually just picked up the Boker Tech-Tool 7 when you posted about it a few days ago. I prefer the smaller size mainly because I don't need as big a knife, since I'll almost always be pairing it with one of my folding knives. The Ruike just seems like it would be too big, especially when I'd still carry another "main" blade.
In that case you probably make the right choice.
One for the outdoors and one for EDC
A few months back, I was looking for an EDC outdoor multi tool for use in the garden. I have worked as a groundskeeper in the past, so I wanted something that could do a number of different kinds of pruning tasks. I looked over both of these models quite a bit, but ultimately settled on the Victorinox Fieldmaster, which is the Huntsman with a Philips driver in place of a corkscrew.
I’m very happy with the Fieldmaster. Are there some things I wish it had? Sure. Does it have tools that rarely, if ever, get used? Sure. But out of everything available on the market right now it seems to be the best performer.
Have you done cut tests with the saws? I’d be very curious to see how well they perform next to Victorinox’s saw.
From all my research it seems to be damn near equal give similar lengths.
By the way... I have not seen you do a review on the 111mm victorinox series, have I missed it maybe? The Hercules in particular or the Workchamp, both seem superior to the 91's. Plus they lock.
at that size..I'd just carry a plier based multitool, way more useful.
What about the Victorinox RangerGrip series?
Thanks. It would be interesting if modifying the scissors would improve its performance
Could you compare the boker tech tool to the boker atlas?
That was very interesting.
Thanks for the comparison 😊👍
Best regards
Joe
The "M" series Ruike which is a much closer comparison to the Boker as you stated is my favorite knife. quality on par with the Boker for far less money. The "L" series is hard to find for certain models. the LD is awesome knife too.
Hi. Now the ''M'' seems hard to find too. I have a ''s'' and a ''ld''. Can't find a m at a ''normal'' price
well done :D, pls have the comparison item with it , if possible, I love the 111mm locking folding SAKs. is that saw truly bigger than the 130mm?
Id love to know , ty Great work, pls more :D
Hmm, probably not bigger than 130 but likely same as 111
,,,,I take the Victorinox Huntsman (for Fieldmaster) plus a good Bushcraft Fix-Blade knife .....I like the blade from the Ruike and the saw, and the tweezer, but price on Amazon for the Ruike is a little bit steep compared to the Victorinox (yes, I get it, it uses a better steel ... but then the Victorinox has at least a can opener....).
Check out the Victorinox Ranger. It has almost the perfect set of tools for its nice compact size.
Very good video !
morakniv knifes uses
12c 27 stainless steel very very good for the price.
What about the Ruike vs the swiss farmer X alox
Not a fair comparison....the farmer x is a monster of a tool... even without pocket clip or one handed blade, still wins.
I think the Ruike M42 is the same as that Boker Tech City 7. My experience though with other Chinese made Boker multitools hasn’t been satisfactory.
Are the boker knives made in Germany?
I have a böker tech tool city 4
And the sisser does not move! Holds completely still! I do however have a a newer tech tool. The one with a nice böker shield on the scale.
I choose the böker over the ruike, for size. I have small woman hands, and the böker is just right. The ruike would have been my first choice, if it was smaller
And I prefer it over all my victorinox knives.
I have green Böker with a saw , 3 layer .
✨🧸✨ 👍
I have a couple of boker tech tools, the pocket clip and the bigger thicker blade is a step up from victorinox when you have stupid knife laws.
The ruike just looks too big for what it is.
Probably already commented by someone but... Why why why not a one hand opening blade on the small one???
Then of course... The secondary blade / screwdriver weird open position is very bad, even dangerous if used as screwdriver, actually!
Yep
Would not the larger compare more to the victorinox soldier or one hand trekker even though those models don't have the scissors, there is the saw, locking screwdriver, one hand opening and locking blade at a much larger size compared to the 91mm sak models.
I think not having scissors is a big deal..but yes.
@@maxlvledc yes, there are sak models that have the scissors but not with the same configuration as the ruike you presented and the one hand trekker has the Phillip's instead of the corkscrew, one work around I've used in the past is carrying a vic classic on my keychain, I think you've touched on doing just that in past videos where you were highlighting a multitool with no scissors.
Tipping point for me is length of saw
in which way?
@@maxlvledc I'd preffer the longer saw even if it means choosing the one with less than ideal ergos. The value to me is in the saw.
Nice comparison. The scissors look identical to me...Might vary tool to tool? Maybe you just got a "bad" one?....with "bad" meaning, still fine and functional, and to specs,......but not perfect.
Actually they are completely different. Even the scissor arm is reversed..I never noticed. Ppl have told me the new tech tools don't have this issue.
They look nice 👍
The only thing about my Ruike I don't love is the flat leatherman style philips.
I just want to put a 12c or better stainless blade on my sak huntsman
On my boker tech tool the scissor doesnt flex like that, ill post a quick video
I've heard the new ones don't have this issue!
@@maxlvledc I got mine in april of last year from smkw.
That wierd flathead and curved serrated blade is a total turn off for me! It makes the flathead so awkward to use... and i need it more than a rescue cutter... so i stick to SAKS!
Can't go wrong
😊cool
Victorinox does NOT have a single hand opening, lock blade with scissors! I' ll buy the chinese knife the second they are available down here.
Where do you live? They are also available at ali express
@@maxlvledc ARgentina. Land of the Living Dead. We are allowed to import NOTHING!
@@robertoservadei4766 that's lame AF
@@maxlvledc We`re inches away from a meltdown. Zero hard currency reserves and annual inflation at 110%.
Ruike and Boker ..... If the manufacturer replaces the scissors, and when assembling the knife, a remote washer is installed under the clasp ring (the ring roughly scratches the tool next to it), then Victorinox may close its production. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO! I repeat, you are the most valuable blogger in the English-speaking segment of RUclips, and in the European segment your colleague is diezelle57. Ruike and Boker..... Если производитель заменит ножницы , и при сборке ножа , под темлячным кольцом будет установлена дистанционная шайба (кольцо грубо царапает инструмент рядом с ним), то Victorinox может закрыть свое производство. СПАСИБО ЗА ВИДЕО! Повторюсь , Вы самый ценный блоггер в англоязычном сегменте RUclips , а в Европейском сегменте Вашим коллегой является diezelle57. 👍👍👍
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Dont take this as gospel, but I read somewhere that it is the Ruike factory that manufactures the Tech Tools for Boker.
That's true, but it's Sanranmu that makes both
@@maxlvledc
Ahh - that makes sense.
Thanks for the info'.
I have a few Sanrenmu folding knives & they are excellent, & I consider Sanrenmu to be an excellent brand