you know any mission with javier in this game is gonna be a good one, it’s really too bad that he’s not featured in more of them. just makes me sad to see how he turned out in red dead redemption and in the end of 2
AMAZINGKILLER222 bill and javier, two amazing characters that are just too loyal to a fault. all bill ever wanted was purpose and dutch gave that to him, and javier kind of received asylum with dutch. the difference between john and arthur and javier and bill is that javier and bill rely on dutch, and have little to nothing outside of their loyalty to him, but john and arthur, well john has a family that he really starts to care for after getting jack back and for arthur, towards the end of the story he puts john and his family’s safety as his priority. everyone i just mentioned was saved by dutch, but two out of the four have nothing but dutch and the van der linde gang so in the end, that’s why they sided with dutch
I mean it kinda makes sense to me though. The less time Arthur spent with Javier. The less time they had to bond. So more reason why he sided with Dutch than Arthur during the final confrontation
Yeah, it is a shame. He kind of just disappears from the game in the second half of it, and I've always found him siding with Bill, Micah, his two rats and Dutch against Arthur and John particularly weird because he had a very strong relationship with Arthur throughout the game and barely interacts with Dutch for him to be quite so loyal. If there's one problem I have with the game it's that they really didn't do much of a job at all in illustrating how and why Javier is so loyal to Dutch and not Arthur.
Javier is actually one of, if not the most, dangerous member of the gang, he's always so unpredictable and impossible to read, Charles is probably the best fighter in the gang, the best shooter would have to be Arthur by default because of Dead Eye, he's been a gunslinger longer than John so he would be better.
I figured it to be a half insult to, and the way Bill responded seemed like he himself wasn't so sure if Arthur was being sarcastic or not, he might have went with it not being an insult so he would have the satisfaction of it not being taken as an insult, to keep from being implied to be dumb.
@@sharvinjoshi1108 It is an insult. It's the same as when people says: "When God gave out beauty, you were the last in the line". When someone says that you have been dealt a bad hand and they are not talking about something specific, but your life in general, they are implying you haven't got the smarts/skills/beauty/whatever, hence why your hand is bad. no good cards equals no good traits in this metaphor, so Arthur is literally saying that Bill has got no good traits about him, that is a clear cut insult, even if it was made in a jest.
I think he might’ve just been drugged out of his mind at the point combined with not truly wanting to kill John but instead keep running away from his past
Javier knocked John down with a dirty trick in RDR1, immediately after John made it perfectly clear that he was dead-set on taking his old friend's life. John was down and out for a solid five or six seconds, plenty of time for Javier to empty a revolver or two into his would-be-assassin. What does he do with this opportunity? He turns his back on one of the most dangerous men he has ever known, and climbs out a window to run away. He only opens fire when John follows after, and only when John starts catching up to him. All the while, he begs John to remember the brotherhood they once had, and if you capture him alive, he continues to appeal to this familial love, not insulting or cursing John until he's a few steps away from a prison cell. Even then, Javier doesn't make threats or say a single word about hurting John himself, merely wishing for him and his family to go to hell. This is a man who gambled with his life, for a chance to let his old friend live.
Loved Javier in this game, makes me sad despite knowing what happens to him I kept thinking through red dead 2 they would change his outcome for some reason. It actually kinda seemed uncharacteristic for Javier to side with dutch given his development in this game.
Javier was smart when the gang split he told "hey I need a band of killers to remain hidden". So he remain with Dutch knowing full well sideing with arthur would only be short ride. Also he like Dutch ideals. Ideals make people with nothing going a reason to live. Now being conservative like Arthur requires values a set of rules and values something to die and protect for.
@@samtheman686 nah he had conservative views. For the time. Like treating is fellow men equally bullet and all. He despise the progressive Micah ideals "false attitude, the ass kissing and bigotry and the sense of brotherhood" like some fellow klansman and what we're they in does times? Ooh yah a Democrat militia in the south The reason. Why they both like Dutch was given to you by uncle "he imagen him self as King with his knights" Arthur like the loyal aspect of it along his own sense of greed to share with his fellow friends. While Micah love the idea of a group knight the full anarchist freedom of it all. Also I thing Micah has daddy issue and was sorta gay for Dutch.
@@lordmeric3180 The democrats WERE conservative back then. Have you not heard about the ideological shift that happened to the two major parties? Here's a page on it: factmyth.com/factoids/democrats-and-republicans-switched-platforms/ Essentially, back then the Dems were the small government, states' rights party, and the Repubs believed in a strong federal government. Anyway, as for Arthur, he's a bit progressive for the time, since he didn't seem to have a problem with women voting (although he did think nobody should vote), didn't have a problem with black people, and was okay with women running and gunning in the gang. These were progressive ideas for the time, although I doubt he cared for any political party; he likely hated both sides equally.
the sad thing is, rdr2 was the first red dead game i’d ever played, and i was actually starting to like how cool javier was, but then i played the last mission, then figured out what happens in rdr1 and umm... yeah.
R* fucked up with Javier, the player doesnt get to see enuff of the bad, or the true javier. They only saw skin deep. chapters 5 and 6 shouldve had more with his decline
Javier was so much better in RDR2 then he was in 1. Dressed well, is badass with weapons, plays guitar, gets the girls at the bars. What the heck happened?
@@noahsherwood2445 that's actually a good point, considering they're kind of the young ones of the gang. The game is massive yet there's still so much more they could have focused on...
I'm a man of 100% compleation and I have to say your videos have helped me genuinely achieve that, not by completion but by understanding everyone's dialect and influence in this game. Rdr2 has removed skyrim as #1 game and you've helped me fully understand each character and I appreciate that
@@westman3552 I found it my first play through and only the middle of the first part where he first mentions a puddle of piss. But after that I could never find it again.
That first interaction with Bill hyping up how good Javier is on the job, and how scary he can be to circumvent a fight, is plain heart warming. Never seen Bill talk about any of the gang so happily like that, as if he's genuinely impressed and wants them to know it. Also the second one, when Arthur immediately sticks up for Bill and ends the little interaction then and there without even cracking a joke, and Bill all confused and surprised just goes. "T... Thanks, Arthur." Like it's the first time he's heard Arthur speak and not heard himself be insulted at the same time, which it might well have been.
I once was looking for pictures of Javier - random reason, don't ask me why - and then I found one where he was sitting in the camp, smoking a cigarette and looking at to the player... And GOD DAMN his gaze was terrifying! Javier is a badass! One moment he's a charming good looking gentlemen and the other moment he becomes the devil
Man I feel so bad for Bill... Arthur may be joking when he says that “He’s been dealt a bad hand” but fact remains that he actually has. Alcoholism runs in his family and when he talks about his father (who drank so much and so often that he eventually lost his mind and couldn’t remember anything) you can clearly see that he’s terrified of ending up like him (which, sadly enough, it looks like he is). Add the fact that he’s clearly haunted by what he experienced in the army and that the one thing that is holding him together (namely, the gang) is coming to an end and you just gotta feel sorry for the guy.
@@DoctorPorkenfries It could also have something to do with Javier using Bill as a smokescreen of sorts. If John's still looking for Bill, he won't come for him...or so his logic might have gone
@@gabrieltsgardner9942 Eh, I don't know about that. If I were Javier, I would have been concerned with the idea that harboring Bill would do nothing but bring unwanted attention to me....which is precisely what it did.
Javier professed his loyalty to Dutch, especially after what Dutch did for him in guarma. Regardless of how he felt, he was very loyal to Dutch, even tried to throw John off the scent in RDR 1 saying Dutch was in a different country.
1 time I was riding in west Elizabeth close to strawberry and Javier came and told me that bill got caught by bounty hunters and u can kill them in a camp and save bill
I remember when I replayed the game for the second time, the first time I didn’t notice the names and such in the first chapter but when Javier and Arthur went out and searched for John he was actually real nice
Amazing how this game nailed its characters, these two are probably my favourite but when you have 6 or 7 favourite NPC gang members you know it’s a good game
I dunno, do you like Spanish men who out knives up to American veterans necks whenever they're drunk and ask whatcha doin? But then again he did call him a greaser so I guess he deserved it.
2:03 The way he stands perpendicular to Bill just shows so much about that interaction along with Bill backing off and sitting back down. In a way hes "submitting" to Javier by becoming defenseless to him.....or maybe I'm over thinking it?
He also steals from the gang funds. Its another hidden part. If you catch him at just the right moment you will catch him stealing out of the camp funds pot. He is disgusting. I caught him my first playthrough and was pissed I couldn't confront him about it, I was shocked when I saw him do it.
I just noticed Javier doesn't have a hunting knife like everyone else, Javier's knife almost looks more like a shiv or a dirk when he's carving the table.
I know Javier sides with Dutch in the end, at least for a while, considering they go separate ways but dammit he’s still one of my favorite characters. Fuckin’ love him,
Bill in this game reminds me of me when im at school, im easily angered and always treated like an idiot And I like how Athur stood up for Bill, People rarely stand up for me when im at school
Lizard's Reviews Arthur didn’t stand up for him he insulted him but Bill didn’t realize it when he said he’s been dealt a bad hand he means his life is a f*** up
The more of these I see, the more dialogue I discover of Arthur and others actually being nice to Bill. It really does make you think how differently things could’ve gone if Arthur, John, Charles and Sadie tried to sway Bill and Javier more towards the end of the game. Thinking about how you can see that Javier couldn’t even bring himself to point his gun at Arthur and John before the Pinkertons force them to escape through the caves is another indicator. Despite Bill and Javier being the men they are in RDR1, Rockstar changed our whole perspective on them in 2. They did such a stellar job with this game.
There was this tension between javier and bill here but in red dead 1 williamson went to mexico to get help from Javier. If you notice after the Saint Denis chapter, starting in Guarma, whenever the gang is paired off together, Javier and Bill were often placed together. A lot of time to talk and think and get close to one another. Especially during all of the problems the gang had towards the end of the game, it would be easy for the two to form a fierce bond
Bill's character is actually kind of tragic. He's a grizzled old soldier who was scarred by war, resorted to alcohol, and now has a skewed view on the world because of that.
Now just consider this. Javier has a reputation for being dangerous and terrifying. But despite that, when he came face to face with John pointing a gun at him, he ran for his life. John is just that scary it seems.
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Bill: *Talks about how dangerous and intimidating Javier can be*
Also Bill: hEY GREASER, WHATCHU DOIN?
Sometimes I think Bill actively tries to get himself beaten honestly 😂
thats him drunk
“Sheep fucker”
@@jillreyerma7592 yep yep 😂😂
LOLLLLLL
Is it just me or bill almost gets himself killled all the time in this game?
Hosea, javier, Arthur, and im pretty sure all of the women have been tempted to kill him
@@thievinglittlegoblin404 Sheriff Gray too
SandKing2012 L Yep,
Captured by Sheriff Gray...
THE LIST GOES ON
He was captured by bounty Hunter too
That's why Its called Kill Bill
“What’s wrong bill,you look like someone asked you where the sun goes at night”🤣😂
Lol
Who's Bill? Ohhhh you mean marolin
Diego Vigil ripppp i remember when i heard that hidden dialogue i died.
(bill’s real name is secretly marion and they all make fun of him for it)
Does that mean just a plain idiot or?
hUhH??
Sometimes when he pulls a knife on Bill, he looks at Arthur and says "should I do it?"
Yeah happened to me and arthur said be my guest 😂😂😂love him❤
Lol this is y I luv javier
@ZGENERIC it's fine fucknut
ZGENERIC your*
Agreed.
Bill: What’chu doing GREASER.
Javier: You’ve just yeed your last haw
Haahahhahahahah nice 😂
He's gonna take his horse to the old town road and gonna shoot bill 'till he can't no more
Ok, what the HELL does greaser mean? I get some sort of an isult and slur, but it is weak if you don't know the meaning. So the Hell is its meaning?
OUTSTANDING if i may say so ma'self
@@jekabsojarsulskis9740 It's literally just calling them greasy, or skeezy, rat-like, unclean. Edit: Which is obviously morally reprehensible.
you know any mission with javier in this game is gonna be a good one, it’s really too bad that he’s not featured in more of them. just makes me sad to see how he turned out in red dead redemption and in the end of 2
It really is and sad part was he was confused in the end of rdr2 and didnt know who to side
AMAZINGKILLER222 bill and javier, two amazing characters that are just too loyal to a fault. all bill ever wanted was purpose and dutch gave that to him, and javier kind of received asylum with dutch. the difference between john and arthur and javier and bill is that javier and bill rely on dutch, and have little to nothing outside of their loyalty to him, but john and arthur, well john has a family that he really starts to care for after getting jack back and for arthur, towards the end of the story he puts john and his family’s safety as his priority. everyone i just mentioned was saved by dutch, but two out of the four have nothing but dutch and the van der linde gang so in the end, that’s why they sided with dutch
I mean the blackwater one, braithwaihte one, bank in saint Denis, many more epic ones
I mean it kinda makes sense to me though. The less time Arthur spent with Javier. The less time they had to bond. So more reason why he sided with Dutch than Arthur during the final confrontation
Yeah, it is a shame. He kind of just disappears from the game in the second half of it, and I've always found him siding with Bill, Micah, his two rats and Dutch against Arthur and John particularly weird because he had a very strong relationship with Arthur throughout the game and barely interacts with Dutch for him to be quite so loyal. If there's one problem I have with the game it's that they really didn't do much of a job at all in illustrating how and why Javier is so loyal to Dutch and not Arthur.
I just love the way he says "little Mexican peasant".
@@Fabi_87 Javier a shell of his former self
Leetel Meckxican paysent
" Ay I love it when you talk to me so tough and manly" 😂🤣
A ghoul with power armour, if the enclave was hear they would kill you
@@archiejefferson4615 Who are the enclave?
Javier is actually one of, if not the most, dangerous member of the gang, he's always so unpredictable and impossible to read, Charles is probably the best fighter in the gang, the best shooter would have to be Arthur by default because of Dead Eye, he's been a gunslinger longer than John so he would be better.
Micah is a hell of a shooter
yeah he was pretty good but he was terrible at close range, that was proven a couple times.
Sadie is pretty dangerous too but she actually has a conscience, it seems Javier lost his a long time ago.
I think Micah was best gun slinger
Id say Arthur is s better fighter than charles. It takes one hell of a fighter to beat the piss out of healthy guys when you’re almost dead.
Poor bill got a gun and a knife pulled on him by his own gang lol
Both times he was drunk, and got angry.
Nobody likes him he's an idiot
Bill I think is used to that, he was in the army after all
Serves him right for being racist
How the fuck did this guy end up running a gang in rdr1 lol
"Thanks Arthur."
Bill's too dense to realize Arthur had just insulted him.
Donald Trump Bill probably would have took offense if he understood the comment. He doesn’t think he’s stupid
He’s not insulting him, Arthur is saying Bill was unlucky, that’s what people mean when they get “dealt a bad hand”
I figured it to be a half insult to, and the way Bill responded seemed like he himself wasn't so sure if Arthur was being sarcastic or not, he might have went with it not being an insult so he would have the satisfaction of it not being taken as an insult, to keep from being implied to be dumb.
@@sharvinjoshi1108 It is an insult. It's the same as when people says: "When God gave out beauty, you were the last in the line". When someone says that you have been dealt a bad hand and they are not talking about something specific, but your life in general, they are implying you haven't got the smarts/skills/beauty/whatever, hence why your hand is bad. no good cards equals no good traits in this metaphor, so Arthur is literally saying that Bill has got no good traits about him, that is a clear cut insult, even if it was made in a jest.
BatarianBob That’s why Javier said “Alright, I give up” I busted out laughing
" who you calling a drunkard?" * falls over* " I have no idea "
Are we related? I swear I literally commented this and I was scrolling through and I saw this, which is pretty much the exact same.
@@christopheredwards9904 you’re both quoting a video. Calm down
0:03 reverend swanson: mrs.SADler
Legit nobody believed in Sean that sucks because he would have had so much potential if he lived
ik sean was the man, also we had the same name so he was naturally bound to be my favorite
@@col.nugget1524
Hi Sean
What about kerian he was cooler than sean
@@blackskullz7934 I wish we got to see more of him he was so underused
I wanna play as Sean in rdr3
Bill: “Hey Greaser what you doing?”
Javier: *So you have chosen....death*
Javier: “just playing with my knife. SHEEP FUCKER!”
Rdr1 Javier: A coward and a wimp
Rdr2 Javier: A badass who was sly, cunning, and scary.
Accurate af
Well it was John Marston coming after him
i think javier really didn't want to fight John or any of the gang members so he just ran away
I think he might’ve just been drugged out of his mind at the point combined with not truly wanting to kill John but instead keep running away from his past
Javier knocked John down with a dirty trick in RDR1, immediately after John made it perfectly clear that he was dead-set on taking his old friend's life. John was down and out for a solid five or six seconds, plenty of time for Javier to empty a revolver or two into his would-be-assassin. What does he do with this opportunity?
He turns his back on one of the most dangerous men he has ever known, and climbs out a window to run away. He only opens fire when John follows after, and only when John starts catching up to him. All the while, he begs John to remember the brotherhood they once had, and if you capture him alive, he continues to appeal to this familial love, not insulting or cursing John until he's a few steps away from a prison cell. Even then, Javier doesn't make threats or say a single word about hurting John himself, merely wishing for him and his family to go to hell.
This is a man who gambled with his life, for a chance to let his old friend live.
Javier was a badass in rdr2
tommy whipped his ass
Corey Sometimes Arthur Whooped Tommy’s ass.
@@skoomasnewalt6566 lmao tommy got brain damage after getting fucked by arthur
@@skoomasnewalt6566 thats not fair arthur had plot armor protecting him
@@dr.warski4356 imagine if Arthur was not sick, he could've given Micah the same thing...
Javier and Bill: about to start a fight
Arthur: 👁👁
No this is Arthur: 🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃
🧍
Loved Javier in this game, makes me sad despite knowing what happens to him I kept thinking through red dead 2 they would change his outcome for some reason. It actually kinda seemed uncharacteristic for Javier to side with dutch given his development in this game.
Javier was smart when the gang split he told "hey I need a band of killers to remain hidden". So he remain with Dutch knowing full well sideing with arthur would only be short ride. Also he like Dutch ideals.
Ideals make people with nothing going a reason to live.
Now being conservative like Arthur requires values a set of rules and values something to die and protect for.
Lord Meric Arthur isn’t a conservative. He has the same ideals as Dutch he’s just not mentally unstable like Dutch is.
@@samtheman686 nah he had conservative views. For the time. Like treating is fellow men equally bullet and all. He despise the progressive Micah ideals "false attitude, the ass kissing and bigotry and the sense of brotherhood" like some fellow klansman and what we're they in does times? Ooh yah a Democrat militia in the south
The reason. Why they both like Dutch was given to you by uncle "he imagen him self as King with his knights" Arthur like the loyal aspect of it along his own sense of greed to share with his fellow friends. While Micah love the idea of a group knight the full anarchist freedom of it all. Also I thing Micah has daddy issue and was sorta gay for Dutch.
@@lordmeric3180 no...
@@lordmeric3180 The democrats WERE conservative back then. Have you not heard about the ideological shift that happened to the two major parties? Here's a page on it: factmyth.com/factoids/democrats-and-republicans-switched-platforms/
Essentially, back then the Dems were the small government, states' rights party, and the Repubs believed in a strong federal government.
Anyway, as for Arthur, he's a bit progressive for the time, since he didn't seem to have a problem with women voting (although he did think nobody should vote), didn't have a problem with black people, and was okay with women running and gunning in the gang. These were progressive ideas for the time, although I doubt he cared for any political party; he likely hated both sides equally.
the way javier says he's just playing with his knife kinda hot ngl lolol
Javier would pump and dump that’s for sure . As all things should be
Arthur: lemme see what chu have!
Javier: a knife!
Arthur: be my guest!
the sad thing is, rdr2 was the first red dead game i’d ever played, and i was actually starting to like how cool javier was, but then i played the last mission, then figured out what happens in rdr1 and umm...
yeah.
Chillfroze same but mine was with mostly bill not as much Javier
@@theinfinity2988 I dunno, I kinda saw it comming.
The Infinitey I love Bill character to bad he becomes bad shut crazy in RDR 1
R* fucked up with Javier, the player doesnt get to see enuff of the bad, or the true javier. They only saw skin deep.
chapters 5 and 6 shouldve had more with his decline
Shame he turns into a human trafficker
I'm definitly replaying this game just to find these hidden dialogues by myself
Exactly we missed out some good stuff
I'm on my 6th playthrough just because i Love playing as Arthur so much
Javier was so much better in RDR2 then he was in 1. Dressed well, is badass with weapons, plays guitar, gets the girls at the bars. What the heck happened?
Probably a panic reaction when YOU sent John to kill him
He ate Dutch's Tahiti mango.
After finding Out that he has Lumbago Javier is never The same man again
The first game isn't as detailed as the second. R* had much more freedom and resources to delve into things. That's what happened.
He went back to Mexico
Charles, Javier, Sean, and Lenny are the best members.
Hosea and Kieran?
@@crimsonholocene949 Them too but I loved Sean and Lenny. I wish they focused on their friendship more
@@noahsherwood2445 that's actually a good point, considering they're kind of the young ones of the gang. The game is massive yet there's still so much more they could have focused on...
hosea and arthur?
what about Arthur and John?
I think Bill always throws compliments at everyone cos he’s hoping to receive one himself
The best part is that sometimes, when Javier pulls the knife on Bill, he looks at Arthur and asks "Should I do that?" and Arthur goes "Be my guest"
3:23 I died laughing at this part XD
Bill sucks
Adhm Salmm bill is funny boah but yes he sucks
Like Bill said - Javier just give one look...and the bastard turns to jelly
Me too I laughed so hard when Bill falls off of his barrel 😂😂
@@elonmusk2899 A puddle…of piss.
The first game gave me the impression that he was more of a rat than a fighter, this game changed my mind
2:34 It’s not the fact that Javier pulls a knife on Bill,It’s the fact that Bill comes out of nowhere from a goddamn tree
I think he were leaning on it.
he called him a greaser that’s why
When Javier is playing with his knife, *Never* call him a greaser.
This is the best one hands down, I love Javier's menacing side
I'm a man of 100% compleation and I have to say your videos have helped me genuinely achieve that, not by completion but by understanding everyone's dialect and influence in this game. Rdr2 has removed skyrim as #1 game and you've helped me fully understand each character and I appreciate that
Javier is such an underrated character he needed more screen time
go to red dead 1 and you will see that Hes an overrated character....
Rockstar should release an animated movie all about the blackwater job. Bring back the rdr2 voice actors
Forget a movie I want another game that ends with the Blackwater job
Joshua N/A Yh fuck a movie I want dlc
They’re not voice actors
@@nschwartz311 Hell no
Or red dead redemption 3
That first part is pretty rare to find.
I found it yesterday
@@westman3552 I found it my first play through and only the middle of the first part where he first mentions a puddle of piss. But after that I could never find it again.
I think i found it in my game but i couldnt tell because swanson wouldnt stfu with his drunk singing right in my fucking ear
One... Puddle... Of PISS
“Just playing with my knife sheep fucker” is my favourite quote of all time now
That first interaction with Bill hyping up how good Javier is on the job, and how scary he can be to circumvent a fight, is plain heart warming. Never seen Bill talk about any of the gang so happily like that, as if he's genuinely impressed and wants them to know it.
Also the second one, when Arthur immediately sticks up for Bill and ends the little interaction then and there without even cracking a joke, and Bill all confused and surprised just goes. "T... Thanks, Arthur." Like it's the first time he's heard Arthur speak and not heard himself be insulted at the same time, which it might well have been.
But Arthur was clearly insulting Bill, by being dealt a bad hand he meant that Bill was stupid and he didn't get the joke
The interaction at 1:36 is why I love Javier.
Man’s had Bill flabbergasted with all the questions 😂
This interaction is actually why I hate Javier. I can't fucking stand passive aggressive people.
When Javier said I’m just playing with my knife he sounded so adorable
I once was looking for pictures of Javier - random reason, don't ask me why - and then I found one where he was sitting in the camp, smoking a cigarette and looking at to the player... And GOD DAMN his gaze was terrifying! Javier is a badass! One moment he's a charming good looking gentlemen and the other moment he becomes the devil
You can find pictures of Javier? where? how?
@@snooppp8873 I mean...the internet? Google?
“I love it when you talk to me so tough and manly”
Hol up?
💀
Sarcasm
@Mr New Vegas dear friend let me invite you to the world of memes and jokes
there is fan art of Javier and Bill kissing because people ship them, I kinda see them as friends or something
edit- ok ok yall i get it 😟
@@钟离-p3b uh....
Man I feel so bad for Bill... Arthur may be joking when he says that “He’s been dealt a bad hand” but fact remains that he actually has.
Alcoholism runs in his family and when he talks about his father (who drank so much and so often that he eventually lost his mind and couldn’t remember anything) you can clearly see that he’s terrified of ending up like him (which, sadly enough, it looks like he is). Add the fact that he’s clearly haunted by what he experienced in the army and that the one thing that is holding him together (namely, the gang) is coming to an end and you just gotta feel sorry for the guy.
Based on these interactions, you gotta wonder why Javier helped him escape in the first game.
Probably because Bill remained loyal to Dutch throughout the endgame and yelled at people who started to question Dutch, just like Javier himself did.
@@DoctorPorkenfries It could also have something to do with Javier using Bill as a smokescreen of sorts. If John's still looking for Bill, he won't come for him...or so his logic might have gone
@@gabrieltsgardner9942 Eh, I don't know about that. If I were Javier, I would have been concerned with the idea that harboring Bill would do nothing but bring unwanted attention to me....which is precisely what it did.
@@DoctorPorkenfries Well, it wouldn't be the strangest decision a desperate man on the losing side of a war had made in a time of crisis.
maybe he imagined Bill could kill Marston, which almost happened before the player's even given full control
Javier professed his loyalty to Dutch, especially after what Dutch did for him in guarma. Regardless of how he felt, he was very loyal to Dutch, even tried to throw John off the scent in RDR 1 saying Dutch was in a different country.
Even bill was traumatized by Javier
Poor Bill, his insecurity makes him act like an idiot which makes the gang bully him which in turn creates more insecurity.
I love how much Javier can roast people and the "big American soldier " part got me dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0:55 Javier feeling proud of himself
“Who you calling Drunkard?” *falls off chair*
“I got no idea”
Javier best roast xD
"You carry on Bill", Arthur's sarcasm is so higher level than Bill that he still thanks Arthur afterwards🤣😂
Javier is lowkey my favorite character.
My favorite to
My favorite as well
he can go fuck himself he worked with a pedophile and rapist in rdr1
Mine too
@@e14ee what?
Bill “who did you call a DruNkeRd *falls*” Javier “I have no idea” probably everybody watching “😂🤣”
“I’m just playing with my knife” is my new favourite quote from javier
"Abigal always said you was a creep!"
"When someone disrespect you, fillet them with a knife"
-Javier Escuella 1899
No one
Revrend: ONe dAY wHEN I waS FrISKy
3:25 Javier is such a boss
1 time I was riding in west Elizabeth close to strawberry and Javier came and told me that bill got caught by bounty hunters and u can kill them in a camp and save bill
I had it near valentine
Bills walk is telling alot at 3:10 : He shat himself
Javier kills someone “I’m just playing with my knife.”
I remember when I replayed the game for the second time, the first time I didn’t notice the names and such in the first chapter but when Javier and Arthur went out and searched for John he was actually real nice
Amazing how this game nailed its characters, these two are probably my favourite but when you have 6 or 7 favourite NPC gang members you know it’s a good game
Why do I find Javier so attractive all of a sudden?
Queen Judas
*James Charles voice* Same Thither
Jesus christ that's fucked up
I dunno, do you like Spanish men who out knives up to American veterans necks whenever they're drunk and ask whatcha doin? But then again he did call him a greaser so I guess he deserved it.
They made him more attractive in RDR2
@@christopheredwards9904 mexican* and yeah absolutely
2:03 The way he stands perpendicular to Bill just shows so much about that interaction along with Bill backing off and sitting back down. In a way hes "submitting" to Javier by becoming defenseless to him.....or maybe I'm over thinking it?
I love Javier. He’s so goddamn funny.
Damn I like Javier's boots hope they add them in online
Now They Got His Entire Outfit Lol
I feel pretty bad for Bill now, he gets bullied a lot in this gang
Timothy Lok yeah cause he’s an idiot
He threw Lenny once m8!
He's a bully too tho
He also steals from the gang funds. Its another hidden part. If you catch him at just the right moment you will catch him stealing out of the camp funds pot. He is disgusting. I caught him my first playthrough and was pissed I couldn't confront him about it, I was shocked when I saw him do it.
Timothy Lok he starts the fights 😂
What I like about Javier is that he’s the quiet but deadly type. Like Charles.
Best Gunslinger: Arthur (John by the end of the series)
Best fighter: Charles
Most unpredictable: Bill
Best Dressed: Javier
Biggest asshole: Micah
Best at everything: Uncle
Best plan holder: Dutch
Biggest badass: Sadie
Ebenezer Scrooge Biggest Traitor: Dutch
God damn Snakes: Arthur, John
1:36 Tbf, Javier started this. Bill was just chillin’
Needed more Javier scenes ❤️ loved him in this game. Honestly his voice was amazing
@@christopheredwards9904 Agreed. These horny bitches up in here make me wanna puke lol
Guys calm down she just liked his voice
@@trumplover45xxx9 thank you ❤️
I just noticed Javier doesn't have a hunting knife like everyone else, Javier's knife almost looks more like a shiv or a dirk when he's carving the table.
I love how much tension there is between Bill and Javier......Almost makes you think there’s something going on😉
NO STOP! NOAH GET THE BOAT
Now holdon you might be onto something here
How dare you!
He was too busy with Lenny and Kieran lol
2:36 the fact you can actually see marks appear on the table is insane detailing
1:49 bro the way javier said this 🤣🤣
I love it , how Bill doesnt understand the Joke told by Arthur on his expense and even thanks him , thinking he was siding with him ...
I've never seen any hidden dialogue, i gotta stay in the campgrounds and eavesdrop more often
Javier just looks so different in red dead redemption 1
I beg rockstar to make a dlc about javier in Mexico before and after the gang
1:50 javier's voice in this part is like the cowboy version of Fez from that 70's show
I know Javier sides with Dutch in the end, at least for a while, considering they go separate ways but dammit he’s still one of my favorite characters. Fuckin’ love him,
Bill sounds shocked and appreciative when arthur stands up for him (well when he thinks Arthur does)
Javier has always been my favorite member of the gang
"i'm just playing with my knife 🤪" whoever voiced Javi, You has my heart
Gabriel Sloyer!
Bill in this game reminds me of me when im at school, im easily angered and always treated like an idiot
And I like how Athur stood up for Bill,
People rarely stand up for me when im at school
Lizard's Reviews Arthur didn’t stand up for him he insulted him but Bill didn’t realize it when he said he’s been dealt a bad hand he means his life is a f*** up
The music on the last one was timed beautifully
That's why Abigail thought Javier was creepy
Javier knows how to keep his head cool in times like those, but of course, one can only have so much patience, even with such companions
The more of these I see, the more dialogue I discover of Arthur and others actually being nice to Bill.
It really does make you think how differently things could’ve gone if Arthur, John, Charles and Sadie tried to sway Bill and Javier more towards the end of the game.
Thinking about how you can see that Javier couldn’t even bring himself to point his gun at Arthur and John before the Pinkertons force them to escape through the caves is another indicator.
Despite Bill and Javier being the men they are in RDR1, Rockstar changed our whole perspective on them in 2. They did such a stellar job with this game.
There was this tension between javier and bill here but in red dead 1 williamson went to mexico to get help from Javier. If you notice after the Saint Denis chapter, starting in Guarma, whenever the gang is paired off together, Javier and Bill were often placed together. A lot of time to talk and think and get close to one another. Especially during all of the problems the gang had towards the end of the game, it would be easy for the two to form a fierce bond
Bill's character is actually kind of tragic. He's a grizzled old soldier who was scarred by war, resorted to alcohol, and now has a skewed view on the world because of that.
When Bill said "shun, shiIiIi..." I felt that 😩😩👌
u killed me bro wtf
Very deep. Who knew Bill possessed that kind of utter, universal wisdom?
3:36 bill died! i was waiting for this moment!
I wonder if he was hoping for Javier to help him up after he fell lol
Ewan mcshregg haha! 😂😂
1:00 I like how Javier and Bill are sitting together and you can see John's silhouette walking in the background
javier was lowkey my favorite besides charles
Now just consider this. Javier has a reputation for being dangerous and terrifying. But despite that, when he came face to face with John pointing a gun at him, he ran for his life. John is just that scary it seems.
al Mamlūk I think it was more about the gun to his face and impending doom than John
Maybe because of the fact that javier didn't have any weapons and knew john would pull the trigger before he could attack him
Me: "sees Javier pull a knife on bill and to me it's cute" WHY DO I FEEL HAPPY AND ATTRACTIVE FEELING!?!? Oh no...JACK!
2:51 Great dialogue, and the voice actor's delivery of the line is amazing
When you realize Javier is actually really cool.
love how Bill just compliments on Javiers ''look'' and that Arthur took his side for once